From laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com  Mon Jan  2 13:38:09 2006
From: laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com (Laurent Sansonetti)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 19:38:09 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] About translating alexandria to the Catalan
	language
In-Reply-To: <e37e9cc90512250104i2d18ac78i@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e37e9cc90512250104i2d18ac78i@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1be7247c0601021038g63df70b8x17720d72ca210a26@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Carles,

Sorry for the late response.

On 12/25/05, Carles Rius <realbluehead at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi! I'm from catalonia, between spain and france and I'd like to know
> if I could help translating alexandria to my language, Catalan. Thank
> you!

Sounds great!  Please subscribe to our translations mailing list:

http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/alexandria-i18n-list

This mailing list has very little traffic.  I request new translations
there a week before each release, and I should make one soonish :-)

Cheers and happy new year,
Laurent


From laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com  Mon Jan  2 13:42:08 2006
From: laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com (Laurent Sansonetti)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 19:42:08 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] Crash
In-Reply-To: <1135971316.10833.15.camel@veckman>
References: <1135971316.10833.15.camel@veckman>
Message-ID: <1be7247c0601021042g63b79c58s7e35797ec06fbf1e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Aymeric,

Sorry for the late response.

On 12/30/05, Aymeric Nys <aymeric at nnx.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> alexandria crashed, I was not able to start it.
>
> aymeric at veckman ~ $ alexandria
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb: line 21
>    libglade-WARNING **:Could not load support for `gnome': libgnome.so:
> Ne peut ouvrir le fichier d'objet partag?: Aucun fichier ou r?pertoire
> de ce type
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb: line 21
>    libglade-WARNING **:Could not load support for `bonobo':
> libbonobo.so: Ne peut ouvrir le fichier d'objet partag?: Aucun fichier
> ou r?pertoire de ce type
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb: line 21
>    libglade-WARNING **:unknown property `enable_layout_config' for class
> `GnomeApp'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb: line 21
>    libglade-WARNING **:could not find a parent that handles internal
> children for `dock'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb: line 21
>    libglade-WARNING **:could not find a parent that handles internal
> children for `appbar'
> -----------------------
> Alexandria just crashed
> -----------------------
> Timestamp: ven d?c 30 14:18:27 EST 2005
> Message: undefined method `model=' for nil:NilClass
> Backtrace:
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:358:in
> `setup_books_listview'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:1106:in
> `initialize_ui'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:85:in `initialize'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui.rb:41:in `main'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria.rb:66:in `main'
> /usr/bin/alexandria:10
> Release: 0.6.1
>
> Uname -a: Linux veckman 2.6.14-gentoo-r2n #1 PREEMPT Thu Dec 29 16:25:10
> EST 2005 ppc 7455, altivec supported PowerBook6,3 GNU/Linux
> --
> Please report this dump to 'alexandria-list at rubyforge.org' with some
> additional
> information, such as the description of the crash and the steps to
> reproduce it
> (if it's possible).
>
>
> As I do not have libgnome.so and libbonobo.so but libgnome-2.so and
> libbonobo-2.so I have made a link.
> But what I receive now is:
>
> aymeric at veckman ~ $ alexandria
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb: line 21
>    libglade-WARNING **:could not find `gnome' init function:
> `glade_module_register_widgets': /usr/lib/libgnome-2.so.0: undefined
> symbol: glade_module_register_widgets
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb: line 21
>    libglade-WARNING **:could not find `bonobo' init function:
> `glade_module_register_widgets': /usr/lib/libbonobo-2.so.0: undefined
> symbol: glade_module_register_widgets
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb: line 21
>    libglade-WARNING **:unknown property `enable_layout_config' for class
> `GnomeApp'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb: line 21
>    libglade-WARNING **:could not find a parent that handles internal
> children for `dock'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb: line 21
>    libglade-WARNING **:could not find a parent that handles internal
> children for `appbar'
> -----------------------
> Alexandria just crashed
> -----------------------
> Timestamp: ven d?c 30 14:20:53 EST 2005
> Message: undefined method `model=' for nil:NilClass
> Backtrace:
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:358:in
> `setup_books_listview'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:1106:in
> `initialize_ui'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:85:in `initialize'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui.rb:41:in `main'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria.rb:66:in `main'
> /usr/bin/alexandria:10
> Release: 0.6.1
>
> Uname -a: Linux veckman 2.6.14-gentoo-r2n #1 PREEMPT Thu Dec 29 16:25:10
> EST 2005 ppc 7455, altivec supported PowerBook6,3 GNU/Linux
> --
> Please report this dump to 'alexandria-list at rubyforge.org' with some
> additional
> information, such as the description of the crash and the steps to
> reproduce it
> (if it's possible).
>
> I use alexandria-0.6.1, ruby-1.8.4, ruby-gnome2, ruby-libglade-0.14.1
> Thanks for your help.
>

Mmh apparently your system is sick, this is not an Alexandria issue. 
I would suggest you to clean and properly re-install Ruby-GNOME2.

BTW you seem to use gentoo, are you using portage to get Alexandria? 
If yes you probably should report this to the maintainer.  If no you
might give it a try, it seems to work for some people.

Cheers and happy new year,
Laurent


From david.alston at gmail.com  Mon Jan  2 15:03:11 2006
From: david.alston at gmail.com (David Alston)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:03:11 -0600
Subject: [Alexandria-list] CueCat issues
Message-ID: <ad87a7160601021203i108c0d6eo23dc1d34d3baa40b@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings!

     I noticed on the website that Alexandria has cuecat support, but I
haven't been able to get it to work.  I've been looking through the
documentation, and it looks like everyone just assumes that the cuecat
works.  I believe this assumption presumes that the CueCat linux driver is
working properly.  I've been having trouble compiling the cuecat driver
module (compile errors) and so I was hoping that Alexandria would be able to
decrypt the cuecat's text strings natively.  Basically, I need to know if
I'm missing something or if I am right in assuming that Alexandira's
"cuecat" support is just a fancy way of saying that they support all barcode
readers.

     I'm running on a Debian (sarge) box with kernel 2.4.27-2 and have a
PS/2 CueCat (unhacked).  I'm running v 0.6.1 of Alexandria.

          A student of life, David Alston

--
"Without rules there  is no game for it is by the rules the game is
defined."
          --SOv
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From unapersson at linuxmail.org  Mon Jan  2 15:26:18 2006
From: unapersson at linuxmail.org (Ian Davey)
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:26:18 +0000
Subject: [Alexandria-list] Reading state patch
Message-ID: <43B98C6A.4080603@linuxmail.org>

Laurent,

I've had a go at playing with the CVS code of Alexandria and have 
produced an initial small patch against CVS head to implement some 
properties for setting the read/unread state of a book.

It's been more for personal use at the moment, but you're free to use if 
you want. Comments would be useful as it's the first time I've had a go 
at either Ruby or GTK and I plan to add some enhancements.

ian.
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From aymeric at nnx.com  Mon Jan  2 16:38:24 2006
From: aymeric at nnx.com (Aymeric Nys)
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:38:24 -0000
Subject: [Alexandria-list] Crash
In-Reply-To: <1be7247c0601021042g63b79c58s7e35797ec06fbf1e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1135971316.10833.15.camel@veckman>
	<1be7247c0601021042g63b79c58s7e35797ec06fbf1e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1104702552.10343.9.camel@veckman>

Le lundi 02 janvier 2006 ? 19:42 +0100, Laurent Sansonetti a ?crit :
> Hi Aymeric,
> 
> Sorry for the late response.
> 
> On 12/30/05, Aymeric Nys <aymeric at nnx.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > alexandria crashed, I was not able to start it.
> >

-- cut some crash report

> >
> > I use alexandria-0.6.1, ruby-1.8.4, ruby-gnome2, ruby-libglade-0.14.1
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> 
> Mmh apparently your system is sick, this is not an Alexandria issue. 
> I would suggest you to clean and properly re-install Ruby-GNOME2.
> 
> BTW you seem to use gentoo, are you using portage to get Alexandria? 
> If yes you probably should report this to the maintainer.  If no you
> might give it a try, it seems to work for some people.
> 
> Cheers and happy new year,
> Laurent

I found the problem, it has nothing to do with alexandria of course.
The answer to this problem can be found on this web page:
http://xlife.zuavra.net/curse/0010/
Putting the directory /usr/lib/libglade/2.0/ in /etc/ld.so.conf
make it found the right library.
Gentoo should have this setup automatically.

while I am whith it I have translated the documentation in french.
All I have to do is to take the screenshot and ask for someone to read
it.

While doing the translation I found some minor bugs that I pass here:
I use the french localisation of alexandria 0.6.1 :

- Dialog "Add manually a book" does not have a title.
- alt+n (cancel) does not close this dialog.
- Main window: alt+b brings to the side pane (library list) and does not
 open the library menu (library = biblioth?que in french).
- Import button in import dialog does not have an acceleration letter.
- alt+f, close (close = fermer in french) in the properties dialog
 of a book does not close the dialog.
- Affichage (View) has the same acceleration key (alt-A) as Aide (Help).
- alt+n (cancel) export dialog does not close the dialog.
- alt+n (cancel) New Provider dialog does not close the dialog.
- Dialog Preferences, Providers tab: 'Vers le haut' (Up) and 'Vers le
bas' (Down)
 has the same acceleration key (V).
- Fournisseur Biblioth?que du congr?s, Congr?s take uppercase C.
- Remove button labeled 'Enlever' shoud be labeled 'Supprimer' for
consistency.
- Delete the last library from the library pane and alexandria crash
with :
Timestamp: lun jan 02 11:36:27 EST 2006
Message: undefined method `name' for nil:NilClass
Backtrace:
/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:620:in
`refresh_libraries'/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:611:in `setup_sidepane'
/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:828:in
`initialize_ui'
/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui.rb:42:in `main'
/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria.rb:66:in `main'
/usr/bin/alexandria:10
Release: 0.6.1

Bye
-- 
Aymeric Nys <aymeric at nnx.com>



From qibhom at wideopenwest.com  Mon Jan  2 16:55:44 2006
From: qibhom at wideopenwest.com (Lissa)
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 16:55:44 -0500
Subject: [Alexandria-list] CueCat issues
In-Reply-To: <ad87a7160601021203i108c0d6eo23dc1d34d3baa40b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ad87a7160601021203i108c0d6eo23dc1d34d3baa40b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1136238944.24628.8.camel@localhost>


>      I noticed on the website that Alexandria has cuecat support, but
> I haven't been able to get it to work.  

I believe you need to patch your kenel with the cuecat drivers;

http://users.skynet.be/ppc/cuecat/

Not that I've gotten my (hacked) cuecat working with DSL yet (2 series
kernel, modified Debian, basically).

Be well,
Lissa
-- 

Let's say the docs present a simplified view of reality... :-)
     --Larry Wall in <6940 at jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>



From david.alston at gmail.com  Tue Jan  3 01:02:00 2006
From: david.alston at gmail.com (David Alston)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 00:02:00 -0600
Subject: [Alexandria-list] CueCat issues
In-Reply-To: <1136238944.24628.8.camel@localhost>
References: <ad87a7160601021203i108c0d6eo23dc1d34d3baa40b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1136238944.24628.8.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <ad87a7160601022202n1597ff0esb630575e16336c7b@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings!

     Thanks Lissa!  and thank you for the link.

     I guess I'll just have to work through the compile errors on the cuecat
driver, then.  I was hoping I wouldn't have to do that :^).

          A student of life, David Alston


On 1/2/06, Lissa <qibhom at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>
>
> >      I noticed on the website that Alexandria has cuecat support, but
> > I haven't been able to get it to work.
>
> I believe you need to patch your kenel with the cuecat drivers;
>
> http://users.skynet.be/ppc/cuecat/
>
> Not that I've gotten my (hacked) cuecat working with DSL yet (2 series
> kernel, modified Debian, basically).
>
> Be well,
> Lissa
> --
>
> Let's say the docs present a simplified view of reality... :-)
>      --Larry Wall in <6940 at jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Alexandria-list mailing list
> Alexandria-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/alexandria-list
>



--
"Without rules there  is no game for it is by the rules the game is
defined."
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From kapheine at divineinvasion.net  Tue Jan  3 08:33:04 2006
From: kapheine at divineinvasion.net (Zachary P. Landau)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 08:33:04 -0500
Subject: [Alexandria-list] CueCat issues
In-Reply-To: <ad87a7160601021203i108c0d6eo23dc1d34d3baa40b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ad87a7160601021203i108c0d6eo23dc1d34d3baa40b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060103133304.GA8776@localhost>

On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 02:03:11PM -0600, David Alston wrote:
> Greetings!
> 
>      I noticed on the website that Alexandria has cuecat support, but I
> haven't been able to get it to work.  I've been looking through the
> documentation, and it looks like everyone just assumes that the cuecat
> works.  I believe this assumption presumes that the CueCat linux driver is
> working properly.  I've been having trouble compiling the cuecat driver
> module (compile errors) and so I was hoping that Alexandria would be able to
> decrypt the cuecat's text strings natively.  Basically, I need to know if
> I'm missing something or if I am right in assuming that Alexandira's
> "cuecat" support is just a fancy way of saying that they support all barcode
> readers.

>      I'm running on a Debian (sarge) box with kernel 2.4.27-2 and have a
> PS/2 CueCat (unhacked).  I'm running v 0.6.1 of Alexandria.

David,

Unfortunately, the CueCat support does require the kernel driver.  I believe a
userland driver is still on the TODO list.  Someone did submit one a while ago,
I'm not sure if it faded away from lack of testing or not.  If you are
interested, perhaps you could search the mailing lists for the patch and give
it a try.

-- 
Zachary P. Landau <kapheine at divineinvasion.net>

From christophercyll at gmail.com  Tue Jan  3 09:52:35 2006
From: christophercyll at gmail.com (Topher Cyll)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 06:52:35 -0800
Subject: [Alexandria-list] CueCat issues
In-Reply-To: <20060103133304.GA8776@localhost>
References: <ad87a7160601021203i108c0d6eo23dc1d34d3baa40b@mail.gmail.com>
	<20060103133304.GA8776@localhost>
Message-ID: <2599499e0601030652qa1a600agad3844f3aff74379@mail.gmail.com>

The userland cuecat code was merged into CVS and is just awaiting a UI.
-Toph


> David,
>
> Unfortunately, the CueCat support does require the kernel driver.  I believe a
> userland driver is still on the TODO list.  Someone did submit one a while ago,
> I'm not sure if it faded away from lack of testing or not.  If you are
> interested, perhaps you could search the mailing lists for the patch and give
> it a try.
>
> --
> Zachary P. Landau <kapheine at divineinvasion.net>


From aymeric at nnx.com  Tue Jan  3 11:07:28 2006
From: aymeric at nnx.com (Aymeric Nys)
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:07:28 -0000
Subject: [Alexandria-list] Alexandria french manual
Message-ID: <1104769112.12739.11.camel@veckman>

Hi,
I just send to the gnomefr translation project mailing list my french
translation of the manual. As soon, it will be proof read by some good
folks over there, I would send it to the maintener of the project.
Bye.
-- 
Aymeric Nys <aymeric at nnx.com>


From laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com  Tue Jan  3 11:52:47 2006
From: laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com (Laurent Sansonetti)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 17:52:47 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] Crash
In-Reply-To: <1104702552.10343.9.camel@veckman>
References: <1135971316.10833.15.camel@veckman>
	<1be7247c0601021042g63b79c58s7e35797ec06fbf1e@mail.gmail.com>
	<1104702552.10343.9.camel@veckman>
Message-ID: <1be7247c0601030852h785364d2g8717eab8ba9f2529@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Aymeric,

On 1/2/05, Aymeric Nys <aymeric at nnx.com> wrote:
> Le lundi 02 janvier 2006 ? 19:42 +0100, Laurent Sansonetti a ?crit :
> > Hi Aymeric,
> >
> > Sorry for the late response.
> >
> > On 12/30/05, Aymeric Nys <aymeric at nnx.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > alexandria crashed, I was not able to start it.
> > >
>
> -- cut some crash report
>
> > >
> > > I use alexandria-0.6.1, ruby-1.8.4, ruby-gnome2, ruby-libglade-0.14.1
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > >
> >
> > Mmh apparently your system is sick, this is not an Alexandria issue.
> > I would suggest you to clean and properly re-install Ruby-GNOME2.
> >
> > BTW you seem to use gentoo, are you using portage to get Alexandria?
> > If yes you probably should report this to the maintainer.  If no you
> > might give it a try, it seems to work for some people.
> >
> > Cheers and happy new year,
> > Laurent
>
> I found the problem, it has nothing to do with alexandria of course.
> The answer to this problem can be found on this web page:
> http://xlife.zuavra.net/curse/0010/
> Putting the directory /usr/lib/libglade/2.0/ in /etc/ld.so.conf
> make it found the right library.
> Gentoo should have this setup automatically.
>

Okay, good :)

> while I am whith it I have translated the documentation in french.
> All I have to do is to take the screenshot and ask for someone to read
> it.
>

Wow cool news!

BTW French is my native language, if you send me your work I can read it.

> While doing the translation I found some minor bugs that I pass here:
> I use the french localisation of alexandria 0.6.1 :
>
> - Dialog "Add manually a book" does not have a title.
> - alt+n (cancel) does not close this dialog.
> - Main window: alt+b brings to the side pane (library list) and does not
>  open the library menu (library = biblioth?que in french).
> - Import button in import dialog does not have an acceleration letter.
> - alt+f, close (close = fermer in french) in the properties dialog
>  of a book does not close the dialog.
> - Affichage (View) has the same acceleration key (alt-A) as Aide (Help).
> - alt+n (cancel) export dialog does not close the dialog.
> - alt+n (cancel) New Provider dialog does not close the dialog.
> - Dialog Preferences, Providers tab: 'Vers le haut' (Up) and 'Vers le
> bas' (Down)
>  has the same acceleration key (V).
> - Fournisseur Biblioth?que du congr?s, Congr?s take uppercase C.
> - Remove button labeled 'Enlever' shoud be labeled 'Supprimer' for
> consistency.
> - Delete the last library from the library pane and alexandria crash
> with :
> Timestamp: lun jan 02 11:36:27 EST 2006
> Message: undefined method `name' for nil:NilClass
> Backtrace:
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:620:in
> `refresh_libraries'/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:611:in `setup_sidepane'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:828:in
> `initialize_ui'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui.rb:42:in `main'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria.rb:66:in `main'
> /usr/bin/alexandria:10
> Release: 0.6.1
>

Thanks for the feedback.  I am currently working on finishing the
smart libraries feature.  I will probably commit this tomorrow, then I
will have a look at your points.

Thanks again,
Laurent


From laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com  Tue Jan  3 11:55:57 2006
From: laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com (Laurent Sansonetti)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 17:55:57 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] CueCat issues
In-Reply-To: <2599499e0601030652qa1a600agad3844f3aff74379@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ad87a7160601021203i108c0d6eo23dc1d34d3baa40b@mail.gmail.com>
	<20060103133304.GA8776@localhost>
	<2599499e0601030652qa1a600agad3844f3aff74379@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1be7247c0601030855g7e37619bl1641f6157a51243e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

On 1/3/06, Topher Cyll <christophercyll at gmail.com> wrote:
> The userland cuecat code was merged into CVS and is just awaiting a UI.
> -Toph
>
>
> > David,
> >
> > Unfortunately, the CueCat support does require the kernel driver.  I believe a
> > userland driver is still on the TODO list.  Someone did submit one a while ago,
> > I'm not sure if it faded away from lack of testing or not.  If you are
> > interested, perhaps you could search the mailing lists for the patch and give
> > it a try.
> >

As Topher said the userland CueCat support is in CVS, as well as a
skeleton of the new UI (File/Acquire from Scanner).  We just need to
assemble these parts together, this should not be hard.

I will do this when the smart libraries feature will be complete, and
this will be in the next release.

Cheers
Laurent


From qibhom at wideopenwest.com  Tue Jan  3 22:26:17 2006
From: qibhom at wideopenwest.com (Lissa)
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:26:17 -0500
Subject: [Alexandria-list] CueCat issues
In-Reply-To: <1be7247c0601030855g7e37619bl1641f6157a51243e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ad87a7160601021203i108c0d6eo23dc1d34d3baa40b@mail.gmail.com>
	<20060103133304.GA8776@localhost>
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On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 17:55 +0100, Laurent Sansonetti wrote:
> As Topher said the userland CueCat support is in CVS, as well as a
> skeleton of the new UI (File/Acquire from Scanner).  We just need to
> assemble these parts together, this should not be hard.
> 
> I will do this when the smart libraries feature will be complete, and
> this will be in the next release.

That is wonderful news, Topher and Laurant. My thanks. I will stop
beating my head against the kernel, and leave it in your capable hands.

Be well,
Lissa

-- 

No future is complete without a flying car, but it's the 
invention that like Longhorn, never arrives.

Andrew Orlowski, "Is Microsoft Preparing a Flying Car?" 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/24/msn_driving_instructions/


From wackyvorlon at gmail.com  Tue Jan  3 22:28:33 2006
From: wackyvorlon at gmail.com (Paul Anderson)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 22:28:33 -0500
Subject: [Alexandria-list] CueCat issues
In-Reply-To: <1136345177.24628.13.camel@localhost>
References: <ad87a7160601021203i108c0d6eo23dc1d34d3baa40b@mail.gmail.com>
	<20060103133304.GA8776@localhost>
	<2599499e0601030652qa1a600agad3844f3aff74379@mail.gmail.com>
	<1be7247c0601030855g7e37619bl1641f6157a51243e@mail.gmail.com>
	<1136345177.24628.13.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <9e7fa74a0601031928r867017bwb48919dfcc517a73@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/3/06, Lissa <qibhom at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>
> That is wonderful news, Topher and Laurant. My thanks. I will stop
> beating my head against the kernel, and leave it in your capable hands.
>
I echo this sentiment.  Being able to use my cuecat with alexandria
would be very nice.

--
Paul Anderson
wackyvorlon at gmail.com
http://www.oldschoolhacker.com
"Lex Dicavit"


From david.alston at gmail.com  Wed Jan  4 00:32:37 2006
From: david.alston at gmail.com (David Alston)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 23:32:37 -0600
Subject: [Alexandria-list] CueCat issues
In-Reply-To: <9e7fa74a0601031928r867017bwb48919dfcc517a73@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ad87a7160601021203i108c0d6eo23dc1d34d3baa40b@mail.gmail.com>
	<20060103133304.GA8776@localhost>
	<2599499e0601030652qa1a600agad3844f3aff74379@mail.gmail.com>
	<1be7247c0601030855g7e37619bl1641f6157a51243e@mail.gmail.com>
	<1136345177.24628.13.camel@localhost>
	<9e7fa74a0601031928r867017bwb48919dfcc517a73@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ad87a7160601032132i6fdca26am50acc6823ce95659@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings!

     I'll add my thanks as well!  The support I've received from both the
IRC channel and this list has been excellent.  It'll be great to see how far
Alexandria goes with such a great support base.  I'll start recomending it
to more friends now :^)

          A student of life, David Alston

On 1/3/06, Paul Anderson <wackyvorlon at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 1/3/06, Lissa <qibhom at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
> >
> > That is wonderful news, Topher and Laurant. My thanks. I will stop
> > beating my head against the kernel, and leave it in your capable hands.
> >
> I echo this sentiment.  Being able to use my cuecat with alexandria
> would be very nice.
>
> --
> Paul Anderson
> wackyvorlon at gmail.com
> http://www.oldschoolhacker.com
> "Lex Dicavit"
>
> _______________________________________________
> Alexandria-list mailing list
> Alexandria-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/alexandria-list
>



--
"Without rules there  is no game for it is by the rules the game is
defined."
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From realbluehead at gmail.com  Wed Jan  4 04:46:03 2006
From: realbluehead at gmail.com (Carles Rius)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 10:46:03 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] CueCat issues
In-Reply-To: <ad87a7160601032132i6fdca26am50acc6823ce95659@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ad87a7160601021203i108c0d6eo23dc1d34d3baa40b@mail.gmail.com>
	<20060103133304.GA8776@localhost>
	<2599499e0601030652qa1a600agad3844f3aff74379@mail.gmail.com>
	<1be7247c0601030855g7e37619bl1641f6157a51243e@mail.gmail.com>
	<1136345177.24628.13.camel@localhost>
	<9e7fa74a0601031928r867017bwb48919dfcc517a73@mail.gmail.com>
	<ad87a7160601032132i6fdca26am50acc6823ce95659@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi to all! I'm new in the list! I think alexandria it's great! I 'll
try to contribute translating it to Catalan! I don't know how to do it
but I'll do what you, alexandrians, say :)

Blue

2006/1/4, David Alston <david.alston at gmail.com>:
> Greetings!
>
>      I'll add my thanks as well!  The support I've received from both the
> IRC channel and this list has been excellent.  It'll be great to see how far
> Alexandria goes with such a great support base.  I'll start recomending it
> to more friends now :^)
>
>           A student of life, David Alston
>
>
> On 1/3/06, Paul Anderson <wackyvorlon at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 1/3/06, Lissa <qibhom at wideopenwest.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > That is wonderful news, Topher and Laurant. My thanks. I will stop
> > > beating my head against the kernel, and leave it in your capable hands.
> > >
> > I echo this sentiment.  Being able to use my cuecat with alexandria
> > would be very nice.
> >
> > --
> > Paul Anderson
> > wackyvorlon at gmail.com
> > http://www.oldschoolhacker.com
> > "Lex Dicavit"
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Alexandria-list mailing list
> > Alexandria-list at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/alexandria-list
> >
>
>
>
> --
> "Without rules there  is no game for it is by the rules the game is
> defined."
>           --SOv
> _______________________________________________
> Alexandria-list mailing list
> Alexandria-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/alexandria-list
>
>
>


--
Carles Rius i Cruz


From laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com  Wed Jan  4 12:39:44 2006
From: laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com (Laurent Sansonetti)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:39:44 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] Crash
In-Reply-To: <1be7247c0601030852h785364d2g8717eab8ba9f2529@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1135971316.10833.15.camel@veckman>
	<1be7247c0601021042g63b79c58s7e35797ec06fbf1e@mail.gmail.com>
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On 1/3/06, Laurent Sansonetti <laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com> wrote:
> > While doing the translation I found some minor bugs that I pass here:
> > I use the french localisation of alexandria 0.6.1 :
> >
> > - Dialog "Add manually a book" does not have a title.

Fixed.

> > - alt+n (cancel) does not close this dialog.
> > - Main window: alt+b brings to the side pane (library list) and does not
> >  open the library menu (library = biblioth?que in french).

Well, as both actions have the same key shortcut pressing this
shortcut switches between the actions, this is the normal behavior.

I don't know if it's a good usability idea though.

> > - Import button in import dialog does not have an acceleration letter.

Fixed.

> > - alt+f, close (close = fermer in french) in the properties dialog
> >  of a book does not close the dialog.
> > - Affichage (View) has the same acceleration key (alt-A) as Aide (Help).
> > - alt+n (cancel) export dialog does not close the dialog.
> > - alt+n (cancel) New Provider dialog does not close the dialog.

Same issue as before I think.

> > - Dialog Preferences, Providers tab: 'Vers le haut' (Up) and 'Vers le
> > bas' (Down)
> >  has the same acceleration key (V).

Same issue again, but this is a GTK+ issue there (I do not provide
translation for these buttons).

> > - Fournisseur Biblioth?que du congr?s, Congr?s take uppercase C.

Fixed.

> > - Remove button labeled 'Enlever' shoud be labeled 'Supprimer' for
> > consistency.

Mmh this is again a GTK+ issue, Enlever is the translated stock item.

> > - Delete the last library from the library pane and alexandria crash
> > with :
> > Timestamp: lun jan 02 11:36:27 EST 2006
> > Message: undefined method `name' for nil:NilClass
> > Backtrace:
> > /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:620:in
> > `refresh_libraries'/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:611:in `setup_sidepane'
> > /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:828:in
> > `initialize_ui'
> > /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui.rb:42:in `main'
> > /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria.rb:66:in `main'
> > /usr/bin/alexandria:10
> > Release: 0.6.1
> >

Fixed, now the latest regular library is not deletable anymore.

Thanks for the feedback!

Laurent


From aymeric at nnx.com  Wed Jan  4 12:57:16 2006
From: aymeric at nnx.com (Aymeric Nys)
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 12:57:16 -0500
Subject: [Alexandria-list] View as list button
Message-ID: <1136397436.13068.12.camel@veckman.uqo.local>

The button view as list on the upper right side of the main window
disapear when the window length is reduced.
I think that should be considered as a bug.
Laurent, the screenshots I take for the french doc had this problem. I
already corrected that.
-- 
Aymeric Nys <aymeric at nnx.com>


From laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com  Wed Jan  4 20:12:44 2006
From: laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com (Laurent Sansonetti)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 02:12:44 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] Wanted: New Website
Message-ID: <1be7247c0601041712y6e9b23efj8ebb07f976090fc2@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I just wanted to thank everyone for the nice words.  I am very glad
that you like Alexandria :)

I am forking this thread to discuss about something important: the
website.  As you can see it's definitely hacker-friendly, just one
HTML page with a bunch of links, and it did not change so much since 2
years.  It would definitely be exciting a new one, structured, clear,
simple and beautiful :-)

Anyone there with web and design skills willing to work on this?  I
don't have any artistic talent (and I am not sure I can get them some
day), so if no one ejects me the website is likely to stay like this
forever :-)

Cheers
Laurent

On 1/4/06, Carles Rius <realbluehead at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi to all! I'm new in the list! I think alexandria it's great! I 'll
> try to contribute translating it to Catalan! I don't know how to do it
> but I'll do what you, alexandrians, say :)
>
> Blue
>
> 2006/1/4, David Alston <david.alston at gmail.com>:
> > Greetings!
> >
> >      I'll add my thanks as well!  The support I've received from both the
> > IRC channel and this list has been excellent.  It'll be great to see how far
> > Alexandria goes with such a great support base.  I'll start recomending it
> > to more friends now :^)
> >
> >           A student of life, David Alston
> >
> >
> > On 1/3/06, Paul Anderson <wackyvorlon at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 1/3/06, Lissa <qibhom at wideopenwest.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That is wonderful news, Topher and Laurant. My thanks. I will stop
> > > > beating my head against the kernel, and leave it in your capable hands.
> > > >
> > > I echo this sentiment.  Being able to use my cuecat with alexandria
> > > would be very nice.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul Anderson
> > > wackyvorlon at gmail.com
> > > http://www.oldschoolhacker.com
> > > "Lex Dicavit"
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Alexandria-list mailing list
> > > Alexandria-list at rubyforge.org
> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/alexandria-list
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "Without rules there  is no game for it is by the rules the game is
> > defined."
> >           --SOv
> > _______________________________________________
> > Alexandria-list mailing list
> > Alexandria-list at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/alexandria-list
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Carles Rius i Cruz
>
> _______________________________________________
> Alexandria-list mailing list
> Alexandria-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/alexandria-list
>


From roffe at extern.uio.no  Thu Jan  5 00:16:11 2006
From: roffe at extern.uio.no (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rolf_Marvin_B=F8e_Lindgren?=)
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 06:16:11 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] Wanted: New Website
In-Reply-To: <1be7247c0601041712y6e9b23efj8ebb07f976090fc2@mail.gmail.com>
	(Laurent Sansonetti's message of "Thu, 5 Jan 2006 02:12:44 +0100")
References: <1be7247c0601041712y6e9b23efj8ebb07f976090fc2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <lbzhd8j5k6c.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>

Laurent Sansonetti <laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com> writes:

> Anyone there with web and design skills willing to work on this? 

if you like the design of www.roffe.com, I can do it.

-- 
Rolf Lindgren                                            http://www.roffe.com/
roffe at extern.uio.no                                      http://www.dignus.no/

From laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com  Thu Jan  5 12:06:50 2006
From: laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com (Laurent Sansonetti)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 18:06:50 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] Smart libraries feature complete
Message-ID: <1be7247c0601050906h5987e852t8c39061fd17095c2@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

The smart libraries feature is now complete on CVS.  By complete I
mean everything that was planned has been done, but the feature is
certainly not free of bugs :)

That's why I encourage you to check out the CVS version and play a bit
with this feature. I did not test all the criterion possibilities but
it seems to work fine on what I tested.

So basically, smart libraries are serialized in the
~/.alexandria/.smart_libraries folder under the shape of YAML hashes. 
If the directory does not exist we create it and we add some default
smart libraries (one to see all the loaned books and one for the books
with a 5 rating).

You can add a smart library using "File/New Smart Library", edit its
rules with "File/Properties" and remove it with "Edit/Delete".  Note
that when you are viewing a smart library you can not add/delete books
within it, you can just edit book properties.

Oh also, the smart library icon is not definitive, my girlfriend is
going to work on it again (can you recognize the engine wheels?).

Cheers
Laurent


From laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com  Thu Jan  5 08:47:50 2006
From: laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com (Laurent Sansonetti)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 14:47:50 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] View as list button
In-Reply-To: <1136397436.13068.12.camel@veckman.uqo.local>
References: <1136397436.13068.12.camel@veckman.uqo.local>
Message-ID: <1be7247c0601050547v3510fc28m9a97f09edcd81f22@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Aymeric,

On 1/4/06, Aymeric Nys <aymeric at nnx.com> wrote:
> The button view as list on the upper right side of the main window
> disapear when the window length is reduced.
> I think that should be considered as a bug.

Yes I agree, but I am not sure if we can easily fix this, as GTK+ does
not seem to provide some API to provide a custom overflow menu
containing all toolbar items that are not visible (and we need one
because the "View as" popup is a custom toolbar item).

Laurent


From roffe at extern.uio.no  Sun Jan  8 11:44:12 2006
From: roffe at extern.uio.no (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rolf_Marvin_B=F8e_Lindgren?=)
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:44:12 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] wishlist
Message-ID: <lbzu0cek6ub.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>

I've had a (little) go at Alexandria.  I already have a wish list.

I would like Alexandria to be able to import genre (fiction or
non-fiction).

I would like Alexandria to be able to import Dewey Decimal Number for
non-fiction, and genre description (general fiction, humor, crime,
science fiction, etc.).  that would suffice for my personal library at
least :)

I would like it to be possible for Alexandria to read other peoples
private collections.  

Alexandria currently does not support the libraries and bookstores of my
country.  is there a way I could, say, write a plug-in or something to
allow that? 

-- 
Rolf Lindgren                                            http://www.roffe.com/
roffe at extern.uio.no                                      http://www.dignus.no/

From roffe at extern.uio.no  Sun Jan  8 14:25:09 2006
From: roffe at extern.uio.no (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rolf_Marvin_B=F8e_Lindgren?=)
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:25:09 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] ISBN number - errant?
Message-ID: <lbzzmm6iktm.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>

I have a book sporting the ISBN number 140212124.  I can find the book
by that ISBN number on Google.  however Alexandria refuses to
acknowledge it.

bug? 
-- 
Rolf Lindgren                                            http://www.roffe.com/
roffe at extern.uio.no                                      http://www.dignus.no/

From fredo at starox.org  Sun Jan  8 15:54:46 2006
From: fredo at starox.org (Frederic Leroy)
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:54:46 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] ISBN number - errant?
In-Reply-To: <lbzzmm6iktm.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
References: <lbzzmm6iktm.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
Message-ID: <1136753687.7253.14.camel@localhost>

Le dimanche 08 janvier 2006 ? 20:25 +0100, Rolf Marvin B?e Lindgren a
?crit :
> I have a book sporting the ISBN number 140212124.  I can find the book
> by that ISBN number on Google.  however Alexandria refuses to
> acknowledge it.
> 
> bug? 
It isn't a bug, just a miss in the search. You must use 'add manually'
to enter your book.

I'm only a user of Alexandria. I added all my books (~150) last week.
Alexandria use website, some commercial like amazon and some less like
library to find a book by its isbn.

I had some quirks adding my books : 
- Books with wrong ISBN printed (It happens !)
- Books with no isbn but other reference (issn, ism ...) like periodics,
scores, maps, old book ...
- Books without reference (mostly recepe)
- Books with very old ISBN, so they are referenced with newer ISBN and
cover.

So, it's a good thing that Alexandria let user add an unreferenced book.
Maybe this function should be integrated in the search window ?

Another Idea... since we only rely on a collection a limited website for
searching, It would be wonderful to have a database user website. A bit
like freedb but for books ;)

Alexandria is young and promises a lot  !


From vitei at web.de  Sun Jan  8 16:37:04 2006
From: vitei at web.de (Viktor Bindewald)
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:37:04 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] ISBN number - errant?
In-Reply-To: <1136753687.7253.14.camel@localhost>
References: <lbzzmm6iktm.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
	<1136753687.7253.14.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <1136756225.5956.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Am Sonntag, den 08.01.2006, 21:54 +0100 schrieb Frederic Leroy:
> [...]
> Another Idea... since we only rely on a collection a limited website for
> searching, It would be wonderful to have a database user website. A bit
> like freedb but for books ;)

That would be great. Does anyone knows anything about efforts in that
direction? I don't think this is a brand new idea nobody had before.

Best regards
Viktor


From roffe at extern.uio.no  Sun Jan  8 16:37:09 2006
From: roffe at extern.uio.no (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rolf_Marvin_B=F8e_Lindgren?=)
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:37:09 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] ISBN number - errant?
In-Reply-To: <1136753687.7253.14.camel@localhost> (Frederic Leroy's message of
	"Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:54:46 +0100")
References: <lbzzmm6iktm.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
	<1136753687.7253.14.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <lbzek3iiepm.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>

Frederic Leroy <fredo at starox.org> writes:

> Le dimanche 08 janvier 2006 ? 20:25 +0100, Rolf Marvin B?e Lindgren a
> ?crit :
> > I have a book sporting the ISBN number 140212124.  I can find the book
> > by that ISBN number on Google.  however Alexandria refuses to
> > acknowledge it.
> > 
> > bug? 
> It isn't a bug, just a miss in the search. You must use 'add manually'
> to enter your book.

No, Alexandria says it's not a valid ISBN number and refuses to search. 

> Another Idea... since we only rely on a collection a limited website
> for searching, It would be wonderful to have a database user
> website. A bit like freedb but for books ;)

that would be very nice to have.

> Alexandria is young and promises a lot  !

indeed.

-- 
Rolf Lindgren                                            http://www.roffe.com/
roffe at extern.uio.no                                      http://www.dignus.no/


From qibhom at wideopenwest.com  Sun Jan  8 16:46:23 2006
From: qibhom at wideopenwest.com (Lissa)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 16:46:23 -0500
Subject: [Alexandria-list] ISBN number - errant?
In-Reply-To: <lbzek3iiepm.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
References: <lbzzmm6iktm.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
	<1136753687.7253.14.camel@localhost>
	<lbzek3iiepm.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
Message-ID: <20060108214251.M98617@wideopenwest.com>

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:37:09 +0100, Rolf Marvin B?e Lindgren wrote
> Frederic Leroy <fredo at starox.org> writes:
> 
> > Le dimanche 08 janvier 2006 ? 20:25 +0100, Rolf Marvin B?e Lindgren a
> > ?crit :
> > > I have a book sporting the ISBN number 140212124.  I can find the book
> > > by that ISBN number on Google.  however Alexandria refuses to
> > > acknowledge it.
> > > 
> > > bug? 
> > It isn't a bug, just a miss in the search. You must use 'add manually'
> > to enter your book.
> 
> No, Alexandria says it's not a valid ISBN number and refuses to 
> search.

It isn't a valid ISBN. It isn't long enough
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isbn, for more information). So, it fails the
checksum. google doesn't validate checksums. Searches that use librarian
standardards (such as at abe.com) will refuse to search it, also.

However, like duplicate ISBNs, invalid ISBNs aren't uncommon (I'm a librarian,
although not a cataloger, even if I've had that training).

> > Another Idea... since we only rely on a collection a limited website
> > for searching, It would be wonderful to have a database user
> > website. A bit like freedb but for books ;)
> 
> that would be very nice to have.

I'm not aware of a National Library that doesn't have this, and provide
read-only access to everyone. 

Be well,
Lissa

From roffe at extern.uio.no  Sun Jan  8 17:19:44 2006
From: roffe at extern.uio.no (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rolf_Marvin_B=F8e_Lindgren?=)
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:19:44 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] ISBN number - errant?
In-Reply-To: <20060108214251.M98617@wideopenwest.com> (Lissa's message of
	"Sun, 8 Jan 2006 16:46:23 -0500")
References: <lbzzmm6iktm.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
	<1136753687.7253.14.camel@localhost> <lbzek3iiepm.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
	<20060108214251.M98617@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <lbzace6icqn.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>

"Lissa" <qibhom at wideopenwest.com> writes:

> It isn't a valid ISBN. It isn't long enough
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isbn, for more information). So, it fails the
> checksum. google doesn't validate checksums.

certainly.  however, the ISBN number, invalid though it is, is printet
in the book, and Google confirms that that is indeed the issued ISBN
number, still invalid as it is.


-- 
Rolf Lindgren                                            http://www.roffe.com/
roffe at extern.uio.no                                      http://www.dignus.no/

From qibhom at wideopenwest.com  Sun Jan  8 17:22:16 2006
From: qibhom at wideopenwest.com (Lissa)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 17:22:16 -0500
Subject: [Alexandria-list] ISBN number - errant?
In-Reply-To: <lbzace6icqn.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
References: <lbzzmm6iktm.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
	<1136753687.7253.14.camel@localhost>
	<lbzek3iiepm.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
	<20060108214251.M98617@wideopenwest.com>
	<lbzace6icqn.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
Message-ID: <20060108222037.M79516@wideopenwest.com>

On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:19:44 +0100, Rolf Marvin B?e Lindgren wrote
> "Lissa" <qibhom at wideopenwest.com> writes:
> 
> > It isn't a valid ISBN. It isn't long enough
> > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isbn, for more information). So, it fails the
> > checksum. google doesn't validate checksums.
> 
> certainly.  however, the ISBN number, invalid though it is, is 
> printet in the book, and Google confirms that that is indeed the 
> issued ISBN number, still invalid as it is.

google is not a valid search source for this kind of thing. A library catalog
would be. You are getting it from the verso, not from the cover? Misprints are
more common on the cover.

Irregardless, your quarrel is with checksum validation. While it would be good
to be able to override it, it isn't a bad thing in and of itself.

Be well,
Lissa

From roffe at extern.uio.no  Sun Jan  8 17:28:16 2006
From: roffe at extern.uio.no (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rolf_Marvin_B=F8e_Lindgren?=)
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:28:16 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] ISBN number - errant?
In-Reply-To: <20060108222037.M79516@wideopenwest.com> (Lissa's message of
	"Sun, 8 Jan 2006 17:22:16 -0500")
References: <lbzzmm6iktm.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
	<1136753687.7253.14.camel@localhost> <lbzek3iiepm.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
	<20060108214251.M98617@wideopenwest.com>
	<lbzace6icqn.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
	<20060108222037.M79516@wideopenwest.com>
Message-ID: <lbz64ouiccf.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>

"Lissa" <qibhom at wideopenwest.com> writes:

> google is not a valid search source for this kind of thing. A library catalog
> would be. You are getting it from the verso, not from the cover? Misprints are
> more common on the cover.

I follow the very simple algorithm that I do the cover one first;  if
that fails to validate, I look in the colophon, then I attemt Google.  

the ISBN in question is printed on the cover and nowhere else in the
book.  Since some of Alexandria's sources allow such invalid ISBN
numbers, then the user should be able to override validation.

-- 
Rolf Lindgren                                            http://www.roffe.com/
roffe at extern.uio.no                                      http://www.dignus.no/

From laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com  Mon Jan  9 20:39:14 2006
From: laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com (Laurent Sansonetti)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:39:14 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] Wanted: New Website
In-Reply-To: <lbzhd8j5k6c.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
References: <1be7247c0601041712y6e9b23efj8ebb07f976090fc2@mail.gmail.com>
	<lbzhd8j5k6c.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
Message-ID: <1be7247c0601091739n52eb5d74v6a54f0861571c7c3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Rolf,

Sorry for the late response.

On 1/5/06, Rolf Marvin B?e Lindgren <roffe at extern.uio.no> wrote:
> Laurent Sansonetti <laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Anyone there with web and design skills willing to work on this?
>
> if you like the design of www.roffe.com, I can do it.
>

Well do not take this as an offense (your site is still more beautiful
than mine) but I find your site a bit quaint (desuet as we would say
in French) :-)  I would like something more user friendly, with
colours, graphics, etc...

Cheers
Laurent


From laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com  Mon Jan  9 20:46:10 2006
From: laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com (Laurent Sansonetti)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:46:10 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] wishlist
In-Reply-To: <lbzu0cek6ub.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
References: <lbzu0cek6ub.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
Message-ID: <1be7247c0601091746g6bda44ccvf5287f65fa48a410@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Sorry for the late answer.

On 1/8/06, Rolf Marvin B?e Lindgren <roffe at extern.uio.no> wrote:
> I've had a (little) go at Alexandria.  I already have a wish list.
>
> I would like Alexandria to be able to import genre (fiction or
> non-fiction).
>
> I would like Alexandria to be able to import Dewey Decimal Number for
> non-fiction, and genre description (general fiction, humor, crime,
> science fiction, etc.).  that would suffice for my personal library at
> least :)
>

These two points could be covered once we support custom fields.  This
feature is not yet developed though (but I plan to work on it in one
of the next releases).

> I would like it to be possible for Alexandria to read other peoples
> private collections.
>

Mmh this has been asked in the past, we could either use the public
libraries registry (which can sometimes be accessed from the outside)
or write our own community server.  We need contributors to implement
this, as this is something quite big.

> Alexandria currently does not support the libraries and bookstores of my
> country.  is there a way I could, say, write a plug-in or something to
> allow that?
>

Sure you can, all you have is to write your own book provider class
(in the Ruby language).  It's pretty easy, just check out the
available providers to make you an idea:

http://rubyforge.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/alexandria/lib/alexandria/book_providers/?root=alexandria

All providers are parsing HTML pages but amazon.rb (web-service based)
and z3950.rb (based on the Z39.50 information retrieval protocol).

Cheers
Laurent


From kapheine at divineinvasion.net  Mon Jan  9 21:36:55 2006
From: kapheine at divineinvasion.net (Zachary P. Landau)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 21:36:55 -0500
Subject: [Alexandria-list] wishlist
In-Reply-To: <1be7247c0601091746g6bda44ccvf5287f65fa48a410@mail.gmail.com>
References: <lbzu0cek6ub.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
	<1be7247c0601091746g6bda44ccvf5287f65fa48a410@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060110023655.GA5282@localhost>

> > I would like it to be possible for Alexandria to read other peoples
> > private collections.
> >
> 
> Mmh this has been asked in the past, we could either use the public
> libraries registry (which can sometimes be accessed from the outside)
> or write our own community server.  We need contributors to implement
> this, as this is something quite big.

Just for fun, what if you used open-uri to open Alexandria library
files and let the user specify the files listed on a webpage?  You'd
probably need to detect when a file was read-only and not allow changes
to the library, but it would be a quick way to allow this sort of
viewing.

Personally I don't see that much of a use considering you can just do
HTML exports, but it would still be fun :P

-- 
Zachary P. Landau <kapheine at divineinvasion.net>

From realbluehead at gmail.com  Tue Jan 10 08:01:30 2006
From: realbluehead at gmail.com (Carles Rius)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:01:30 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] wishlist
In-Reply-To: <20060110023655.GA5282@localhost>
References: <lbzu0cek6ub.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
	<1be7247c0601091746g6bda44ccvf5287f65fa48a410@mail.gmail.com>
	<20060110023655.GA5282@localhost>
Message-ID: <e37e9cc90601100501m53c79f13g@mail.gmail.com>

Well well well! :D
You need contributors? I'm a C++, Java and PHP programmer but if it's not to
difficult, I will learn Ruby and if I can, I would help you wiht this
excellent program!
See you!

2006/1/10, Zachary P. Landau <kapheine at divineinvasion.net>:
>
> > > I would like it to be possible for Alexandria to read other peoples
> > > private collections.
> > >
> >
> > Mmh this has been asked in the past, we could either use the public
> > libraries registry (which can sometimes be accessed from the outside)
> > or write our own community server.  We need contributors to implement
> > this, as this is something quite big.
>
> Just for fun, what if you used open-uri to open Alexandria library
> files and let the user specify the files listed on a webpage?  You'd
> probably need to detect when a file was read-only and not allow changes
> to the library, but it would be a quick way to allow this sort of
> viewing.
>
> Personally I don't see that much of a use considering you can just do
> HTML exports, but it would still be fun :P
>
> --
> Zachary P. Landau <kapheine at divineinvasion.net>
> _______________________________________________
> Alexandria-list mailing list
> Alexandria-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/alexandria-list
>



--
Carles Rius i Cruz
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From laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com  Tue Jan 10 08:14:05 2006
From: laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com (Laurent Sansonetti)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:14:05 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] wishlist
In-Reply-To: <20060110023655.GA5282@localhost>
References: <lbzu0cek6ub.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
	<1be7247c0601091746g6bda44ccvf5287f65fa48a410@mail.gmail.com>
	<20060110023655.GA5282@localhost>
Message-ID: <1be7247c0601100514y1dbaaf2dv3a9877baed33d3b7@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Zachary,

On 1/10/06, Zachary P. Landau <kapheine at divineinvasion.net> wrote:
> > > I would like it to be possible for Alexandria to read other peoples
> > > private collections.
> > >
> >
> > Mmh this has been asked in the past, we could either use the public
> > libraries registry (which can sometimes be accessed from the outside)
> > or write our own community server.  We need contributors to implement
> > this, as this is something quite big.
>
> Just for fun, what if you used open-uri to open Alexandria library
> files and let the user specify the files listed on a webpage?  You'd
> probably need to detect when a file was read-only and not allow changes
> to the library, but it would be a quick way to allow this sort of
> viewing.
>

Nice idea, indeed this would be a quick way for retrieving books, but
we miss the write operation.

Another easy solution (that I started to implement a year ago) would
be to write a DRb server and alternatively make Alexandria a client of
it.

> Personally I don't see that much of a use considering you can just do
> HTML exports, but it would still be fun :P
>

In fact I consider this a bit different than HTML export, more like a
publish/subscribe mechanism.  You publish your library on the Internet
and friends of you can subscribe to it (periodically retrieving new
changes) and see what books you are reading, books that you can share
(e.g. not loaned), etc...

Might be exciting! :-)

Laurent


From laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com  Tue Jan 10 08:20:52 2006
From: laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com (Laurent Sansonetti)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:20:52 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] wishlist
In-Reply-To: <e37e9cc90601100501m53c79f13g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <lbzu0cek6ub.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
	<1be7247c0601091746g6bda44ccvf5287f65fa48a410@mail.gmail.com>
	<20060110023655.GA5282@localhost>
	<e37e9cc90601100501m53c79f13g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1be7247c0601100520s22fa40d6g7ad045d1c35b450d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Carles,

On 1/10/06, Carles Rius <realbluehead at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well well well! :D
> You need contributors? I'm a C++, Java and PHP programmer but if it's not to
> difficult, I will learn Ruby and if I can, I would help you wiht this
> excellent program!
> See you!
>

Groovy!

You can find a lot of nice resources on the net to learn Ruby, but I
would recommend you these ones:

http://tryruby.hobix.com/
http://poignantguide.net/
http://rubycentral.com/book/index.html

And if you can afford it, the latest edition of Programming Ruby,
which is by far the best Ruby book ever:

http://pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/ruby/index.html

Cheers
Laurent

>  2006/1/10, Zachary P. Landau <kapheine at divineinvasion.net>:
> > > > I would like it to be possible for Alexandria to read other peoples
> > > > private collections.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Mmh this has been asked in the past, we could either use the public
> > > libraries registry (which can sometimes be accessed from the outside)
> > > or write our own community server.  We need contributors to implement
> > > this, as this is something quite big.
> >
> > Just for fun, what if you used open-uri to open Alexandria library
> > files and let the user specify the files listed on a webpage?  You'd
> > probably need to detect when a file was read-only and not allow changes
> > to the library, but it would be a quick way to allow this sort of
> > viewing.
> >
> > Personally I don't see that much of a use considering you can just do
> > HTML exports, but it would still be fun :P
> >
> > --
> > Zachary P. Landau <kapheine at divineinvasion.net>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Alexandria-list mailing list
> > Alexandria-list at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/alexandria-list
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carles Rius i Cruz
>
> _______________________________________________
> Alexandria-list mailing list
> Alexandria-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/alexandria-list
>
>
>


From laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com  Mon Jan  9 20:52:23 2006
From: laurent.sansonetti at gmail.com (Laurent Sansonetti)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:52:23 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] ISBN number - errant?
In-Reply-To: <lbz64ouiccf.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
References: <lbzzmm6iktm.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
	<1136753687.7253.14.camel@localhost> <lbzek3iiepm.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
	<20060108214251.M98617@wideopenwest.com>
	<lbzace6icqn.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
	<20060108222037.M79516@wideopenwest.com>
	<lbz64ouiccf.fsf@klodrik.uio.no>
Message-ID: <1be7247c0601091752u52a711c0l3cc892303156e826@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On 1/8/06, Rolf Marvin B?e Lindgren <roffe at extern.uio.no> wrote:
> "Lissa" <qibhom at wideopenwest.com> writes:
>
> > google is not a valid search source for this kind of thing. A library catalog
> > would be. You are getting it from the verso, not from the cover? Misprints are
> > more common on the cover.
>
> I follow the very simple algorithm that I do the cover one first;  if
> that fails to validate, I look in the colophon, then I attemt Google.
>
> the ISBN in question is printed on the cover and nowhere else in the
> book.  Since some of Alexandria's sources allow such invalid ISBN
> numbers, then the user should be able to override validation.
>

So just to clarify, here is the actual behavior:

1/ When adding books from the Internet (using the regular search
dialog), when books providers return an invalid ISBN we ask the user
to either reject the book or keep it anyway but with a blank ISBN.

2/ When editing the properties of a book (or adding a new book
manually), you _must_ provide a valid ISBN, otherwise you can leave
the field blank.  But if you enter something on it, this must
validate.

I don't think this behavior is wrong.  The user might be interested
about invalid ISBNs, and I do not see why we would keep an invalid one
in his/her database.

But we can alter this behavior if it's really frustrating for users.

Laurent


From rizlo at fastwebnet.it  Sat Jan 14 06:06:39 2006
From: rizlo at fastwebnet.it (Dade)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:06:39 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] cuecat readers and 2.6.x kernel
Message-ID: <43C8DB3F.60105@fastwebnet.it>

Alexandria is very good. Now I want to purchase a cuecat barcode reader 
just to use it with alexandria to read ISBN. I'm running alexandria on 
Ubuntu, kernel il 2.6 series. I read somewhere that cuecat in alexandria 
works only with kernel of 2.4 series... Is this true?

From vitei at web.de  Wed Jan 25 09:03:18 2006
From: vitei at web.de (Viktor Bindewald)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:03:18 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] Alexandria just crashed
In-Reply-To: <37fd0c50512201113u7d0e1c9cpc7682be6799bbbf5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37fd0c50512201113u7d0e1c9cpc7682be6799bbbf5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1138197798.5311.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Am Dienstag, den 20.12.2005, 16:13 -0300 schrieb Humber Aquino:
> bash-2.05b$ alexandria
> -----------------------
> Alexandria just crashed
> -----------------------
> Timestamp: Tue Dec 20 16:08:18 PYST 2005
> Message: wrong number of arguments (1 for 2)
> Backtrace:
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:528:in `move'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:528:in
> `restore_preferences'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:81:in `initialize'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui.rb:40:in `main'
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria.rb:60:in `main'
> /usr/bin/alexandria:10
> Release: 0.5.1

You're running an outdated version of alexandria. Please try the current
version 0.6.1. It looks like a problem with moving books, some bugs
concerning moving were fixed since 0.5.1. It is likely to be that your
problem will be gone with the new version. If not drop another email to
the list.

Viktor


From liam at liamjdavison.info  Thu Jan 26 16:57:18 2006
From: liam at liamjdavison.info (Liam Davison)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:57:18 +0000
Subject: [Alexandria-list] New pango requirements?
Message-ID: <1138312638.20701.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hello Laurent et al

I've upgraded ISPs recently, lost my rubyforge password (for now; i've
kept backups somewhere) and I've upgraded to a new machine.

I'd like to document the latest changes to Alexandria - they sound
really useful. Unfortunately, I can't seem run the latest CVS
alexandria. What version of Gtk/Pango is required for Alexandria now?

$alexandria
-----------------------
Alexandria just crashed
-----------------------
Timestamp: Thu Jan 26 21:50:55 GMT 2006
Message: uninitialized constant Pango::ELLIPSIZE_END
Backtrace:
/usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:555:in
`setup_books_listv iew'
/usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:1560:in
`initialize_ui'
/usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui/main_app.rb:133:in
`initialize'
/usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria/ui.rb:48:in `main'
/usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/alexandria.rb:68:in `main'
/usr/bin/alexandria:10
Release: CVS
Uname -a: Linux battlestar 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8-smp #1 SMP Mon Jan 16
17:30:09 UTC  2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I've also noticed a bug in the Ubuntu packaging of libgettext-ruby1.8 on
AMD64 platforms, as gettext looks for a file
called /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/gettext/_locale.so , but it's stored
in /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/amd64-linux/_locale.so . A quick ln -s fixed that,
but I'm stuck with the Pango error.

Thanks,

Liam


From liam at liamjdavison.info  Sat Jan 28 06:53:46 2006
From: liam at liamjdavison.info (Liam Davison)
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:53:46 +0000
Subject: [Alexandria-list] New pango requirements?
In-Reply-To: <1138312638.20701.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1138312638.20701.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1138449226.13276.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hi

<<snip>>
> 
> I've also noticed a bug in the Ubuntu packaging of libgettext-ruby1.8
on
> AMD64 platforms, as gettext looks for a file
> called /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/gettext/_locale.so , but it's stored
> in /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/amd64-linux/_locale.so . A quick ln -s fixed
that,
> but I'm stuck with the Pango error.

Sorry, that should read /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/amd64-linux/gettext/_locale.so

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Liam
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Alexandria-list mailing list
> Alexandria-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/alexandria-list


From vanous at penguin.cz  Tue Jan 31 15:13:10 2006
From: vanous at penguin.cz (Petr Vanek)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:13:10 +0100
Subject: [Alexandria-list] add/remove provider buttons not available
Message-ID: <20060131211310.21b8e72c@raven>

Hello all,

I have known of Alexandria for a while and I have even purchased a bar
code scanner for all my books. What a great program!

Soon I will be done with my english books collection, but then I would
like to add some books in the Czech language. I have found a Z39.50
library settings I could hopefully use but I am not able to add a
provider - I simply don't have the "advanced settings" button to be able
to have the add/remove providers buttons. I use the debian packed
version of alexandria (0.6.1) and last night I have even overwritten it
with the code from CVS, but still nothing (I got the Smart Library
features, though, great!). If I only would know the format of saved
settings in the conf file, I could add it manually.

Any suggestions?
Thank you


-- 
bye
Petr
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Petr Vanek               
                         
mailto:vanous at penguin.cz 
http://vanous.penguin.cz 
http://biodynamika.cz    
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