From marcelo.nicolet at gmail.com Tue Jul 13 12:19:19 2010 From: marcelo.nicolet at gmail.com (marcelo nicolet) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 13:19:19 -0300 Subject: [Alexandria-list] Regarding anthologies Message-ID: <4C3C9207.9050704@gmail.com> I have lots of story's anthologies, both from one author and several of them. Of course, the interesting thing is the individual story title and author, but it must be related to the volume where it is. How to solve this question? TIA Marcelo From cathal.alexandria at gnostai.org Tue Jul 13 13:38:27 2010 From: cathal.alexandria at gnostai.org (Cathal Mc Ginley) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 18:38:27 +0100 Subject: [Alexandria-list] Regarding anthologies In-Reply-To: <4C3C9207.9050704@gmail.com> References: <4C3C9207.9050704@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100713183827.642e1de4@jadzia> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 13:19:19 -0300 marcelo nicolet wrote: > I have lots of story's anthologies, both from one author and several > of them. > Of course, the interesting thing is the individual story title and > author, but it must be related to the volume where it is. > How to solve this question? Detailing the contents of anthologies is not explicitly supported. But if you don't mind entering the details by hand, the following may be useful: Let's pick an anthology "The Oxford Book of American Short Stories". ISBN: 0-19-282406-6. The editor (listed under Author) is "Joyce Carol Oates". There are 59 stories by 56 authors. So that this book will show up when we search for a particular author, we'll need to add *each* author to the book. (Edit the book's properties, click + and type in "Washington Irving" and enter, and so on for "William Austin", "Nathaniel Hawthorne" and all the other authors. The order in which you enter the names will be preserved. So we can search for the story titles, add them one per line to the Notes section, you can include the author's names here again if you like: Rip Van Winkle (Irving) Peter Rugg, the Missing Man (Austin) The Wives of the Dead (Hawthorne) ... Now this book will respond to search queries for all authors and titles included in the anthology. (Just remember to search for "Notes contain" rather than "Title contains" for the story titles; or "Match everything" will search for authors and titles). You can also add a tag "anthology" just to remind yourself why there are so many authors. The user-interface isn't very useful for adding dozens of authors at once, so if you don't mind mucking about with data files, and are familiar with the YAML format, you can always edit the YAML file for the book directly. Search under ~/.alexandria for the directory matching your library name, and the .yaml file with the ISBN-13 of your book, e.g. 9780192824066.yaml Hope this helps, - Cathal. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: GnuPT 2.6.2.1 by EQUIPMENTE.DE iEYEARECAAYFAkw8pJMACgkQfMAUnRdb+8qTkwCeOJJrW7iu0Erd5RZdZZIV/IRb 834AoIW4VLDtgEhmVRMjIWrJuYw7rFDy =NuRN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From erwin at herow-international.com Tue Jul 20 07:32:35 2010 From: erwin at herow-international.com (erwin at herow-international.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:32:35 +0200 Subject: [Alexandria-list] Update on earlier suggestion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C458953.9080904@herow-international.com> LS, To substantiate the idea more fully, I have created a simple online library catalog as a tryout for the idea I suggested before. Still no idea how to implement its usage, as an online database that is only accessable through Alexandria. Keep in mind it is only a tryout version, more data can be added to complement the entirety of information one needs. However as it is a tryout, I am curious what you think, especially Cathal. H.W. Roos -- ?????? From erwin at herow-international.com Tue Jul 20 05:00:54 2010 From: erwin at herow-international.com (erwin at herow-international.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:00:54 +0200 Subject: [Alexandria-list] Idea to solve some problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C4565C6.30102@herow-international.com> LS, Was just thinking about the many problems concerning adding ISBN sites, using those sites and adding books without ISBN. Maybe it is good to setup a website that functions as a private book database for Alexandria. By making this database automatically searchable in Alexandria all books that are in this list, no matter the language should be retrieved with all the data available on them. I agree it is not easy to set up such a large bookdatabase, containing all books of the world, but by using a large team of people to do so. Also I am not sure how it can be financed. But if the Alexandria users can provide the info for such a site, then books in all languages can be added, all non ISBN books can be added, all prints of the books can be added (so you get the right cover picture, not one from an earlier or later print) all local numbering systems like NUR, Nugi and EAN and alike can be added, so the database is more searchable, all books without any numbering system, so basically from before 1970 can be added, all languages are in 1 database, so you don't have to search different databases for books in different languages, and by auto setting in the Alexandria program, it automatically searches all, so it solves trying to find which database might or might not contain the book you want to add. Yes getting a database site up and running, and getting all data in there takes like forever and it should be updated daily for many a year to get all books and stuff in, and yes that might cost a bit of time and money, but in the end it makes it the largest searchable book database worldwide and thus makes Alexandria the ultimate best program for anyone with books. Also I'd suggest to make sure that publishers that do no longer exist, to have that info "publisher = publishername - does no longer exist" to be added to the database so people know that they can't order books there. E.g. Konemann who did many cookbooks, but unfortunately does no longer exist. Extended advantage is also that books in this proposed to be database, can be in any language in any script as long as it can be read by a computer, thus being able to add russian books, chinese books, japanese books, arabic books etc etc etc. Just a suggestion, but I think worthwhile to consider, H.W. Roos -- ?????? From cathal.alexandria at gnostai.org Tue Jul 20 18:20:56 2010 From: cathal.alexandria at gnostai.org (Cathal Mc Ginley) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:20:56 +0100 Subject: [Alexandria-list] Idea to solve some problems In-Reply-To: <4C4565C6.30102@herow-international.com> References: <4C4565C6.30102@herow-international.com> Message-ID: <20100720232056.6091e3c3@jadzia> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have previously considered a web-service for Alexandria. However, I recently discovered a large existing project which might do most of the work for us: Open Library (http://openlibrary.org/about), which is part of the Internet Archive and has the motto "One web page for every book." Its data seems to be pretty good (it's free data under the Creative Commons CC0 license) and you can sign up to add books it doesn't have yet. (I added an Irish book from 1914, just to try it: http://openlibrary.org/books/OL24327958M) It's also possible to grab book data in RDF or JSON format. There seems to be a comprehensive API for developers (http://openlibrary.org/developers/api) to access the site programmatically. I think the best thing to do would be to add support for grabbing records from Open Library to Alexnadria, and, importantly, designing a simple way of pushing data *to* Open Library within Alexandria. (If you've ever used SoundJuicer and got redirected to the MusicBrainz website, you'll know that it really discourages you from adding new data.) The code which runs the openlibrary.org is itself Free Software (Affero GPL), so if we ever wanted to make a modified version just for Alexandria, that would be a great starting point. I've never heard of NUR or Nugi numbers, and Open Library doesn't seem to support them, so having a sort of supplementary site just to fill in the blanks left by openlibrary.org might be an idea. That would have a much lower overhead (and cost). - Cathal. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: GnuPT 2.6.2.1 by EQUIPMENTE.DE iEYEARECAAYFAkxGIUgACgkQfMAUnRdb+8p/wQCeINYsdnFh4eLdE0PzUNux7+d8 G2MAni2wQceRuJeZ9e/lGfb/h6DwVlYd =uNMq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cathal.alexandria at gnostai.org Tue Jul 20 18:23:41 2010 From: cathal.alexandria at gnostai.org (Cathal Mc Ginley) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:23:41 +0100 Subject: [Alexandria-list] Update on earlier suggestion (off-list) In-Reply-To: <4C458953.9080904@herow-international.com> References: <4C458953.9080904@herow-international.com> Message-ID: <20100720232341.10723476@jadzia> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:32:35 +0200 "erwin at herow-international.com" wrote: > LS, > > To substantiate the idea more fully, I have created a simple online > library catalog as a tryout for the idea I suggested before. Hi. You forgot to include the link :^) - Cathal. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: GnuPT 2.6.2.1 by EQUIPMENTE.DE iEYEARECAAYFAkxGIe0ACgkQfMAUnRdb+8oUzQCgx057stjhZRTDl9Rh2Gl9NgNr X3wAoNMbd97lhIc0aFTzlZqIchvUeaRN =C1CE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cassano.jay at gmail.com Wed Jul 21 00:14:56 2010 From: cassano.jay at gmail.com (Jay Cassano) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:14:56 +0300 Subject: [Alexandria-list] Idea to solve some problems In-Reply-To: <20100720232056.6091e3c3@jadzia> References: <4C4565C6.30102@herow-international.com> <20100720232056.6091e3c3@jadzia> Message-ID: <4C467440.4010400@gmail.com> I like the idea of supporting and working with an already existing initiative and Open Library seems like it's a spot-on match. When I read the original post I was actually thinking "oh, we should see if we can start something through the Internet Archive and maybe get funding from a university or state gov't" - turns out that's exactly what Open Library did. :) -Jay On 07/21/2010 01:20 AM, Cathal Mc Ginley wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I have previously considered a web-service for Alexandria. However, I > recently discovered a large existing project which might do most of the > work for us: Open Library (http://openlibrary.org/about), which is part > of the Internet Archive and has the motto "One web page for every book." > > Its data seems to be pretty good (it's free data under the Creative > Commons CC0 license) and you can sign up to add books it doesn't have > yet. (I added an Irish book from 1914, just to try it: > http://openlibrary.org/books/OL24327958M) It's also possible to grab > book data in RDF or JSON format. There seems to be a comprehensive API > for developers (http://openlibrary.org/developers/api) to access the > site programmatically. > > I think the best thing to do would be to add support for grabbing > records from Open Library to Alexnadria, and, importantly, designing a > simple way of pushing data *to* Open Library within Alexandria. (If > you've ever used SoundJuicer and got redirected to the MusicBrainz > website, you'll know that it really discourages you from adding new > data.) > > The code which runs the openlibrary.org is itself Free Software (Affero > GPL), so if we ever wanted to make a modified version just for > Alexandria, that would be a great starting point. I've never heard of > NUR or Nugi numbers, and Open Library doesn't seem to support them, so > having a sort of supplementary site just to fill in the blanks left by > openlibrary.org might be an idea. That would have a much lower overhead > (and cost). > > - Cathal. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: GnuPT 2.6.2.1 by EQUIPMENTE.DE > > iEYEARECAAYFAkxGIUgACgkQfMAUnRdb+8p/wQCeINYsdnFh4eLdE0PzUNux7+d8 > G2MAni2wQceRuJeZ9e/lGfb/h6DwVlYd > =uNMq > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Alexandria-list mailing list > Alexandria-list at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/alexandria-list > > From cathal.alexandria at gnostai.org Wed Jul 21 22:15:10 2010 From: cathal.alexandria at gnostai.org (Cathal Mc Ginley) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:15:10 +0100 Subject: [Alexandria-list] Palatina mailing-list Message-ID: <20100722031510.5f1460f7@jadzia> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've decided to set up a mailing-list for discussing the future development of Palatina. You can join here: http://lists.gnostai.org/mailman/listinfo/palatina-devel and view the archive here: http://lists.gnostai.org/pipermail/palatina-devel/ I'm going to be posting various status updates to palatina-devel, even if it is just me talking to myself for a while. I won't be discussing Palatina on this list any more. I'll also redirect questions about major new features from alexandria-list to palatina-devel. For more information, see: http://palatin.as/development/ - Cathal. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: GnuPT 2.6.2.1 by EQUIPMENTE.DE iEYEARECAAYFAkxHqa4ACgkQfMAUnRdb+8rGLACfRL6dL/KSSxOGZEo5zPAEpyMk YyMAnilVjpRp1E643OsP73jS5ZVPPLJ5 =orM+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From esbel.valero at gmail.com Wed Jul 28 15:41:54 2010 From: esbel.valero at gmail.com (Esbel =?UTF-8?B?VG9tw6Fz?= Valero Orellana) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:41:54 -0300 Subject: [Alexandria-list] problems with siciliano book provider Message-ID: <20100728164154.1492df8e@shrek> Hi I am new in this list. I'm using alexandria already have some time to keep my collection of books. Lately I'm having problems to include books. I believe I'm having problems with alexandria/book_providers/siciliano.rb. I'm trying to do my own version based on the bookstore Culture. Here the script I use to do it manually. #!/bin/bash wget --force-html -O $1.html "http://www.livrariacultura.com.br/scripts/cultura/catalogo/busca.asp?sid=01718213782550393284353&k5=3603BB3E&uid=&parceiro=IROJOJ&bmodo=&palavratitulo=&modobuscatitulo=pc&palavraautor=&modobuscaautor=pc&palavraeditora=&palavraISBN=$1&n1n2=&cidioma=&precomax=0&ordem=disponibilidade"; Could someone help me Thanks to all From cathal.alexandria at gnostai.org Fri Jul 30 14:06:51 2010 From: cathal.alexandria at gnostai.org (Cathal Mc Ginley) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:06:51 +0100 Subject: [Alexandria-list] problems with siciliano book provider In-Reply-To: <20100728164154.1492df8e@shrek> References: <20100728164154.1492df8e@shrek> Message-ID: <20100730190651.3e7b6a3a@jadzia> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:41:54 -0300 Esbel Tom?s Valero Orellana wrote: > having problems with alexandria/book_providers/siciliano.rb I've confirmed that the Siciliano provider no longer works. The Siciliano website has changed the formatting of its pages again. It shouldn't be a bit job to get it working again (and I'll post a patch when I'm done). Making a brand new provider is a slightly bigger job. But I'll look into it once I've got the Siciliano one sorted out. - C. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: GnuPT 2.6.2.1 by EQUIPMENTE.DE iEYEARECAAYFAkxTFLsACgkQfMAUnRdb+8pJwwCbBsliKbAjNtaC3bcvXcuDRHGS Q74AoJjy1VJ7nzFHY6qYUjtniDOElCzy =P+Mf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----