From mghaught at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 19:09:01 2006 From: mghaught at gmail.com (Marty Haught) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 17:09:01 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Rails-Lighttpd issues Message-ID: <57f29e620602021609p17fac15dt93cbbe2ff6a19ba0@mail.gmail.com> Hey Guys, I've just tried to install lighttpd on my workstation to use for development instead of webrick. My understanding was once lighttpd was installed Rails would pick it up and use it whenever you started the app via script/server. I must definitely be missing something as I can't get lighttpd and rails to play together. Is it true that Rails 1.0 apps will automatically use lighttpd if installed or do I need to do some config? Is there some easy way to test if Rails is aware of lighttpd's presence? Hopefully one of you has this working locally on your workstation and can enlighten me to some mysterious step I've missed. In case you want to know more about my workstation here's the info: Linux Debian testing (2.6.12-1-686) Ruby 1.8.4-dev Rails 1.0.0 Lighttpd 1.4.9 I believe I have fastCGI installed. fcgi-2.4.0 exists in /usr/local/lib while I installed ruby-fcgi-0.8.6 (putting it under /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8). I'm not sure how to confirm that it's properly installed though. Googling hasn't been as helpful as some of the pages seem way out of date, such as from 2004! Even Rails wiki doesn't seem to be that up to date, though maybe it is and I just don't know it. Additionally, Lighttpd's site doesn't look too helpful for the integration with Rails. Lighttpd seems to be running fine but it just doesn't point to my app. Anyway, I'd appreciate any help you guys might be able to offer. Cheers, Marty From phil at collectiveintellect.com Thu Feb 2 19:38:03 2006 From: phil at collectiveintellect.com (Phil Swenson) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 17:38:03 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Rails-Lighttpd issues In-Reply-To: <57f29e620602021609p17fac15dt93cbbe2ff6a19ba0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005d01c6285a$18443a10$0300a8c0@zeppelin> Setting up lighttpd is definitely a pain. Took me quite awhile to get it right... I got it working on our production environment following this: http://brainspl.at/pages/rails_stack If everything is set up properly, ruby script/server should copy the conf file into your rails directory and lighttpd should execute. phil -----Original Message----- From: bdrg-members-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:bdrg-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Marty Haught Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 5:09 PM To: bdrg-members at rubyforge.org Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Rails-Lighttpd issues Hey Guys, I've just tried to install lighttpd on my workstation to use for development instead of webrick. My understanding was once lighttpd was installed Rails would pick it up and use it whenever you started the app via script/server. I must definitely be missing something as I can't get lighttpd and rails to play together. Is it true that Rails 1.0 apps will automatically use lighttpd if installed or do I need to do some config? Is there some easy way to test if Rails is aware of lighttpd's presence? Hopefully one of you has this working locally on your workstation and can enlighten me to some mysterious step I've missed. In case you want to know more about my workstation here's the info: Linux Debian testing (2.6.12-1-686) Ruby 1.8.4-dev Rails 1.0.0 Lighttpd 1.4.9 I believe I have fastCGI installed. fcgi-2.4.0 exists in /usr/local/lib while I installed ruby-fcgi-0.8.6 (putting it under /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8). I'm not sure how to confirm that it's properly installed though. Googling hasn't been as helpful as some of the pages seem way out of date, such as from 2004! Even Rails wiki doesn't seem to be that up to date, though maybe it is and I just don't know it. Additionally, Lighttpd's site doesn't look too helpful for the integration with Rails. Lighttpd seems to be running fine but it just doesn't point to my app. Anyway, I'd appreciate any help you guys might be able to offer. Cheers, Marty _______________________________________________ Bdrg-members mailing list Bdrg-members at rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bdrg-members From mghaught at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 22:15:53 2006 From: mghaught at gmail.com (Marty Haught) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 20:15:53 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Rails-Lighttpd issues In-Reply-To: <005d01c6285a$18443a10$0300a8c0@zeppelin> References: <57f29e620602021609p17fac15dt93cbbe2ff6a19ba0@mail.gmail.com> <005d01c6285a$18443a10$0300a8c0@zeppelin> Message-ID: <57f29e620602021915k1ffc45h31d7c92ac303dd46@mail.gmail.com> On 2/2/06, Phil Swenson wrote: > Setting up lighttpd is definitely a pain. Took me quite awhile to get it > right... > > I got it working on our production environment following this: > http://brainspl.at/pages/rails_stack > > If everything is set up properly, ruby script/server should copy the conf > file into your rails directory and lighttpd should execute. Thanks Phil, I did see this one and followed it although with another link, http://hivelogic.com/articles/2005/12/01/ruby_rails_lighttpd_mysql_tiger. Ben posted offlist a simple question which turned out to hold the answer. Lighttpd wasn't in my path. Perhaps I am showing my weak linux chops for not catching this. The deal is lighttpd is in path when I'm root and I always launch it via sudo. The issue of course is that I launch my rails app as a user and lighttpd isn't in my path. Sadly, I still have some work to do. Yes, now script/server launches lighttpd instead of webrick but all is not well.. witness the lovely results: => Booting lighttpd (use 'script/server webrick' to force WEBrick) => script/../config/../config/lighttpd.conf not found, copying from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/configs/lighttpd.conf => Rails application started on http://0.0.0.0:3000 => Call with -d to detach (requires absolute paths in config/lighttpd.conf) => Ctrl-C to shutdown server (see config/lighttpd.conf for options) 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (mod_rewrite.c.209) pcre support is missing, please install libpcre and the headers 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (mod_rewrite.c.209) pcre support is missing, please install libpcre and the headers 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (mod_fastcgi.c.989) execve failed for: public/dispatch.fcgi No such file or directory 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (mod_fastcgi.c.1015) the fastcgi-backend public/dispatch.fcgi failed to start: 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (mod_fastcgi.c.1019) child exited with status 2 public/dispatch.fcgi 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (mod_fastcgi.c.1022) if you try do run PHP as FastCGI backend make sure you use the FastCGI enabled version. You can find out if it is the right one by executing 'php -v' and it should display '(cgi-fcgi)' in the output, NOT (cgi) NOR (cli) For more information check http://www.lighttpd.net/documentation/fastcgi.html#preparing-php-as-a-fastcgi-program 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (mod_fastcgi.c.1027) If this is PHP on Gentoo add fastcgi to the USE flags 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (mod_fastcgi.c.1314) [ERROR]: spawning fcgi failed. 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (server.c.702) Configuration of plugins failed. Going down. Cheers, Marty From benr at x-cr.com Thu Feb 2 23:07:17 2006 From: benr at x-cr.com (Ben Reubenstein) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 21:07:17 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Rails-Lighttpd issues In-Reply-To: <57f29e620602021915k1ffc45h31d7c92ac303dd46@mail.gmail.com> References: <57f29e620602021609p17fac15dt93cbbe2ff6a19ba0@mail.gmail.com> <005d01c6285a$18443a10$0300a8c0@zeppelin> <57f29e620602021915k1ffc45h31d7c92ac303dd46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44c79a160602022007h4a18aa7p79a6f088ba157bb0@mail.gmail.com> Hi Marty ~ Glad my path suggestion helped... Now you just need to work on the conf that rails provides for light. It is a known bug in the 1.4.9 that it needs absolute paths for everything from root. So when you specify locations for anything, navigate there and throw down a pwd command and copy the entire path into the lighttpd.conf file. 1.4.8 and the soon to be released 1.4.10does not have this issue and will work with relative paths. ~ Ben On 2/2/06, Marty Haught wrote: > > On 2/2/06, Phil Swenson wrote: > > Setting up lighttpd is definitely a pain. Took me quite awhile to get > it > > right... > > > > I got it working on our production environment following this: > > http://brainspl.at/pages/rails_stack > > > > If everything is set up properly, ruby script/server should copy the > conf > > file into your rails directory and lighttpd should execute. > > Thanks Phil, > > I did see this one and followed it although with another link, > http://hivelogic.com/articles/2005/12/01/ruby_rails_lighttpd_mysql_tiger. > Ben posted offlist a simple question which turned out to hold the > answer. Lighttpd wasn't in my path. Perhaps I am showing my weak > linux chops for not catching this. The deal is lighttpd is in path > when I'm root and I always launch it via sudo. The issue of course is > that I launch my rails app as a user and lighttpd isn't in my path. > > Sadly, I still have some work to do. Yes, now script/server launches > lighttpd instead of webrick but all is not well.. witness the lovely > results: > > => Booting lighttpd (use 'script/server webrick' to force WEBrick) > => script/../config/../config/lighttpd.conf not found, copying from > /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/configs/lighttpd.conf > => Rails application started on http://0.0.0.0:3000 > => Call with -d to detach (requires absolute paths in > config/lighttpd.conf) > => Ctrl-C to shutdown server (see config/lighttpd.conf for options) > 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (mod_rewrite.c.209) pcre support is missing, > please install libpcre and the headers > 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (mod_rewrite.c.209) pcre support is missing, > please install libpcre and the headers > 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (mod_fastcgi.c.989) execve failed for: > public/dispatch.fcgi No such file or directory > 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (mod_fastcgi.c.1015) the fastcgi-backend > public/dispatch.fcgi failed to start: > 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (mod_fastcgi.c.1019) child exited with status 2 > public/dispatch.fcgi > 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (mod_fastcgi.c.1022) if you try do run PHP as > FastCGI backend make sure you use the FastCGI enabled version. > You can find out if it is the right one by executing 'php -v' and it > should display '(cgi-fcgi)' in the output, NOT (cgi) NOR (cli) > For more information check > > http://www.lighttpd.net/documentation/fastcgi.html#preparing-php-as-a-fastcgi-program > 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (mod_fastcgi.c.1027) If this is PHP on Gentoo add > fastcgi to the USE flags > 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (mod_fastcgi.c.1314) [ERROR]: spawning fcgi failed. > 2006-02-02 20:02:54: (server.c.702) Configuration of plugins failed. Going > down. > > Cheers, > Marty > > _______________________________________________ > Bdrg-members mailing list > Bdrg-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bdrg-members > -- Ben Reubenstein http://www.benr75.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/bdrg-members/attachments/20060202/3654ed84/attachment.htm From mghaught at gmail.com Thu Feb 2 23:18:38 2006 From: mghaught at gmail.com (Marty Haught) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 21:18:38 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Rails-Lighttpd issues In-Reply-To: <44c79a160602022007h4a18aa7p79a6f088ba157bb0@mail.gmail.com> References: <57f29e620602021609p17fac15dt93cbbe2ff6a19ba0@mail.gmail.com> <005d01c6285a$18443a10$0300a8c0@zeppelin> <57f29e620602021915k1ffc45h31d7c92ac303dd46@mail.gmail.com> <44c79a160602022007h4a18aa7p79a6f088ba157bb0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57f29e620602022018p5f6e5a16o35b304fc09e61ecf@mail.gmail.com> > Glad my path suggestion helped... Now you just need to work on the conf > that rails provides for light. It is a known bug in the 1.4.9 that it needs > absolute paths for everything from root. So when you specify locations for > anything, navigate there and throw down a pwd command and copy the entire > path into the lighttpd.conf file. 1.4.8 and the soon to be released 1.4.10 > does not have this issue and will work with relative paths. Thanks again Ben, 2 for 2. My last problem (beyond some permission issues) was that it couldn't find dispatch.fcgi. Putting in an absolute path to dispatch in my app's lighttpd config fixed it. Now I'm rocking with lighttpd. :) Did I say I'm a programmer not a sysadmin? Cheers, Marty From kevwil at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 00:23:16 2006 From: kevwil at gmail.com (Kevin Williams) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 22:23:16 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Rails-Lighttpd issues In-Reply-To: <57f29e620602022104m4acca408w114c348c4a0c3d31@mail.gmail.com> References: <57f29e620602021609p17fac15dt93cbbe2ff6a19ba0@mail.gmail.com> <005d01c6285a$18443a10$0300a8c0@zeppelin> <57f29e620602021915k1ffc45h31d7c92ac303dd46@mail.gmail.com> <44c79a160602022007h4a18aa7p79a6f088ba157bb0@mail.gmail.com> <57f29e620602022018p5f6e5a16o35b304fc09e61ecf@mail.gmail.com> <683a886f0602022059j567f78dbife079beb1a033a49@mail.gmail.com> <57f29e620602022104m4acca408w114c348c4a0c3d31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <683a886f0602022123y4044e354ibffba2f4af57efad@mail.gmail.com> I host at TextDrive and they don't officially support scgi yet, butTextDrive will soon be launching "RailsAppHosting", a custom solutionexclusively using Lighttpd and scgi (no Apache proxy), so they areinvesting time and money into it. I've only been using it for dev. I've been developing on Windows usingApache2 with scgi, and it Just Works. I've left it running for days onend, even through "stand by" mode on a laptop, and it's always veryquick and transparent. I highly recommend it The drawback is that the config is somewhat unorthodox. I keepthinking there's a better way than catching 404 errors, but I haven'thad time to worry about it. On 2/2/06, Marty Haught wrote:> Interesting, so you don't see any drawbacks with scgi then? What are> the biggest advantages that you've seen so far with it?>> Cheers,> Marty>> On 2/2/06, Kevin Williams wrote:> > Here's some good instructions for setting up Lighttpd with scgi, which> > I find runs much better that fcgi. For what it's worth, scgi in> > Lighttpd on Windows doesn't work yet, but scgi in Apache2 on Windows> > works beautifully.> >> > http://www.zedshaw.com/projects/scgi_rails/lighttpd.html> >> > On 2/2/06, Marty Haught wrote:> > > > Glad my path suggestion helped... Now you just need to work on the conf> > > > that rails provides for light. It is a known bug in the 1.4.9 that it needs> > > > absolute paths for everything from root. So when you specify locations for> > > > anything, navigate there and throw down a pwd command and copy the entire> > > > path into the lighttpd.conf file. 1.4.8 and the soon to be released 1.4.10> > > > does not have this issue and will work with relative paths.> > >> > > Thanks again Ben,> > >> > > 2 for 2. My last problem (beyond some permission issues) was that it> > > couldn't find dispatch.fcgi. Putting in an absolute path to dispatch> > > in my app's lighttpd config fixed it. Now I'm rocking with lighttpd.> > > :) Did I say I'm a programmer not a sysadmin?> > >> > > Cheers,> > > Marty> > >> > > _______________________________________________> > > Bdrg-members mailing list> > > Bdrg-members at rubyforge.org> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bdrg-members> > >> >> >> > --> > Cheers,> >> > Kevin> >> > "Picking fights with people smarter than you> > is great - you always end up learning something."> > - jcooney.net> >> --Cheers, Kevin "Picking fights with people smarter than youis great - you always end up learning something."- jcooney.net From ryan.maki at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 01:42:45 2006 From: ryan.maki at gmail.com (Ryan Maki) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 23:42:45 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Just a quick introduction... Message-ID: <000501c6288d$0ac26690$802aa8c0@awake> Hello, my name's Ryan, I was at the last meeting briefly, but had to leave early on. Oh, and I'm also the one that brought some Ubuntu Linux discs, which is my platform of choice, (when I'm given a choice.) I'm relatively new to the Ruby language, been working on it for about seven months now. I do software testing all day and it makes an absolutely stellar framework for test rigs. I'm lucky enough to get to do a little noodling around with Ruby almost every day. Is there anyone else on the list that tackles software from the Testing side of the street? ~ Ryan From scott at davisworld.org Fri Feb 3 10:51:08 2006 From: scott at davisworld.org (Scott Davis) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 08:51:08 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Just a quick introduction... In-Reply-To: <000501c6288d$0ac26690$802aa8c0@awake> References: <000501c6288d$0ac26690$802aa8c0@awake> Message-ID: Ryan, You don't, by chance, use Ruby to test Java code, do you? Stu Halloway does this talk on the No Fluff, Just Stuff tour called "Unit Testing Java with Jython and JRuby" (http:// www.nofluffjuststuff.com/speaker_topic_view.jsp?topicId=148). I touch on using Groovy to test Java in my "Holistic Testing" talk (http:// www.nofluffjuststuff.com/speaker_topic_view.jsp?topicId=296). I've got it in the back of my mind that using Ruby to unit/functional test Java code is the backdoor into the enterprise that Ruby is looking for. "Hey, look how bone-simple it is to test our Java code using Ruby. Tell me again why we don't just cut out the middle man and code our production system in Ruby?" Cheers, s Scott Davis scott at davisworld.org On Feb 2, 2006, at 11:42 PM, Ryan Maki wrote: > Hello, my name's Ryan, I was at the last meeting briefly, but had > to leave > early on. Oh, and I'm also the one that brought some Ubuntu Linux > discs, > which is my platform of choice, (when I'm given a choice.) > > I'm relatively new to the Ruby language, been working on it for > about seven > months now. I do software testing all day and it makes an absolutely > stellar framework for test rigs. I'm lucky enough to get to do a > little > noodling around with Ruby almost every day. > > Is there anyone else on the list that tackles software from the > Testing side > of the street? > > ~ Ryan > > _______________________________________________ > Bdrg-members mailing list > Bdrg-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bdrg-members From ryan.maki at gmail.com Sat Feb 4 00:10:16 2006 From: ryan.maki at gmail.com (Ryan Maki) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 22:10:16 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Just a quick introduction... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001201c62949$49d9cdc0$802aa8c0@awake> Actually I test about anything with Ruby, except for Java! We don't have any Java projects in the pipe. I am gradually constructing a scaffolding of simulators. Each of the Sims emulates the network traffic from or to remote hardware or software that I have almost no control over. An example of this would be GPS data coming from hardware. With Ruby I can spin off several hundred (or thousands) of threads to simulate a full network of traffic without batting an eye. You get the picture... So most of what I do relies heavily on 'socket,' 'thread,' and 'yaml' to get the job done and store the results. It's not metaprogramming or anything fancy. It works wonderfully for letting me quickly design and test what-if scenarios. My teammates came from Java and C++ backgrounds and have been showing more and more interest in my meager Ruby coding lately... As you said, it makes such a simple and powerful testing language that it makes them wonder what else they can write in Ruby. (Or maybe they are thinking, "if a tester can write code to do this in twenty minutes... What could we do with it?") My feeling is that when it's painless to deploy Ruby solutions on customer boxes then we may be able to have a serious talk with the higher-ups that make these decisions. Java seems to enjoy a little more support in that area. But I'm the furthest thing from a Ruby expert, I just enjoy using the language. ~ Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Scott Davis [mailto:scott at davisworld.org] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 8:51 AM To: Ryan Maki Cc: Boulder Ruby List Subject: Re: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Just a quick introduction... Ryan, You don't, by chance, use Ruby to test Java code, do you? Stu Halloway does this talk on the No Fluff, Just Stuff tour called "Unit Testing Java with Jython and JRuby" (http:// www.nofluffjuststuff.com/speaker_topic_view.jsp?topicId=148). I touch on using Groovy to test Java in my "Holistic Testing" talk (http:// www.nofluffjuststuff.com/speaker_topic_view.jsp?topicId=296). I've got it in the back of my mind that using Ruby to unit/functional test Java code is the backdoor into the enterprise that Ruby is looking for. "Hey, look how bone-simple it is to test our Java code using Ruby. Tell me again why we don't just cut out the middle man and code our production system in Ruby?" Cheers, s Scott Davis scott at davisworld.org On Feb 2, 2006, at 11:42 PM, Ryan Maki wrote: > Hello, my name's Ryan, I was at the last meeting briefly, but had > to leave > early on. Oh, and I'm also the one that brought some Ubuntu Linux > discs, > which is my platform of choice, (when I'm given a choice.) > > I'm relatively new to the Ruby language, been working on it for > about seven > months now. I do software testing all day and it makes an absolutely > stellar framework for test rigs. I'm lucky enough to get to do a > little > noodling around with Ruby almost every day. > > Is there anyone else on the list that tackles software from the > Testing side > of the street? > > ~ Ryan > > _______________________________________________ > Bdrg-members mailing list > Bdrg-members at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bdrg-members From mghaught at gmail.com Sun Feb 5 13:19:12 2006 From: mghaught at gmail.com (Marty Haught) Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 11:19:12 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Fwd: BDRG Logo In-Reply-To: <4896b9210602041451u1ec1c12ahb28aafd1a9e0de8a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4896b9210602041451u1ec1c12ahb28aafd1a9e0de8a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57f29e620602051019y4cc77d78se65b7f3fec1f4796@mail.gmail.com> Hey Everyone, Bruce Williams was kind enough to take a first pass at a logo for the group. Take a look and other any thoughts on the design. My only suggestion was to make the mountains seem a bit more majestic. 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I was going to mention RailsConf at tomorrow's meeting but it might sell out before then so I wanted to mention it via the list. Here's a link to the registration. The conference is in Chicago on June 22-25. http://www.railsconf.org/pages/registration Cheers, Marty From mghaught at gmail.com Tue Feb 14 10:21:55 2006 From: mghaught at gmail.com (Marty Haught) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:21:55 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Boulder-Denver Ruby Group - February 15th Message-ID: <57f29e620602140721sbf633faqeff5efde294a1b7c@mail.gmail.com> Hey Everyone, I wanted to send out a reminder of our February meeting this Wednesday, the 15th, starting at 6pm. We will be meeting in the Mobius building at 36 and McCaslin (directions below). David A. Black will be joining our group that night and will be presenting for our group. At 6pm we'll have a networking session with pizza (compliments Collective Intellect). At 7pm we'll begin the meeting with some announcements followed by David's talk. After his talk concludes we'll have a question and answer session. We should be completely done by 9pm at the latest. Cheers, Marty Haught Directions: Mobius Building 100 Superior Plaza Way, Suite 200 Superior, CO 80027 Enter through the door between the Superior Liquor store and Super Joe Coffee (marked Mobius/Return Path). Go up the stairs (we'll have someone at the door, since it is locked at that hour) and it's the first conference room on your right, marked "Demonstration Room". URL to google maps: http://tinyurl.com/dc9be Full Meeting Announcement: http://rubyforge.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=5445 From fernand.galiana at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 08:40:54 2006 From: fernand.galiana at gmail.com (Fernand Galiana) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:40:54 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Derailed Info... Message-ID: <30ab479c0602160540q6d4a38e6i4b3ee9a4938a3480@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Marty for hosting last nite's meeting. Great presentation, excellent group of folks !! Perhaps I've missed the post but is the group scheduled to meet every 3rd Wednesday's of the month ? Currently the Denver chapter is scheduled to meet every 3rd Thurs and we would not want to conflict.... I think it would be great if we could share presentation for Boulder and Denver folks a la DJUG/BJUG. For folks willing to participate in the Monster App contest, the polls are still open and we are taking suggestions... Here is the google group address for the Denver Rails User Group aka DeRailed: http://groups.google.com/group/derailed -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/bdrg-members/attachments/20060216/f831d8f3/attachment.htm From ws3reg at gmail.com Thu Feb 16 15:05:17 2006 From: ws3reg at gmail.com (W S) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:05:17 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Great meeting last night Message-ID: <1837c60e0602161205j7d2e3a3eo7070fea082d1fc30@mail.gmail.com> Just popping my head in here on the mailing list. I wanted to thank Greg for letting me know about the meeting. Regards, Will -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/bdrg-members/attachments/20060216/f5c6ba42/attachment.htm From mghaught at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 00:39:36 2006 From: mghaught at gmail.com (Marty Haught) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 22:39:36 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Derailed Info... In-Reply-To: <30ab479c0602160540q6d4a38e6i4b3ee9a4938a3480@mail.gmail.com> References: <30ab479c0602160540q6d4a38e6i4b3ee9a4938a3480@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57f29e620602182139yf295e32g36634f77556b47bf@mail.gmail.com> On 2/16/06, Fernand Galiana wrote: > Thanks Marty for hosting last nite's meeting. Great presentation, excellent > group of folks !! Hi Fernard, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'll answer your questions below. > Perhaps I've missed the post but is the group scheduled to meet every 3rd > Wednesday's of the month ? You must have arrived late but I mentioned that we will, at this point, not pick a 'static' day of the month to meet. We may gravitate towards a particular day but at this point I don't know if it's necessary. I will get out the next meeting announcement early enough that folks can plan it out. > Currently the Denver chapter is scheduled to meet every 3rd Thurs and we > would not want to conflict.... Aye, if the Denver Rails group will meet every 3rd Thursday, I'm make it a point not to pick that day. At this point there is enough activity on Thursdays that we'll probably avoid that day altogether. > I think it would be great if we could share presentation for Boulder and > Denver folks a la DJUG/BJUG. Our group actually covers a larger scope than just Boulder. We're the Boulder-Denver Ruby Group. Our focus will be on Ruby and while Rails will be covered here and there, it is not what our group is gathering for. Our current location may be closer to Boulder than Denver but it's certainly not in Boulder, like the BJUG or BLUG use of the CU campus. Also, we may have an alternate location closer to Denver at some point in the future. But the point is that we're all inclusive of the metro area. However, on your suggestion, you are welcome to invite any of our speakers to your events if you'd like. I don't know how often we'll have speakers from out of the area. At this point our next few meetings will have presentations done by members of the group. Please contact me off list if you would like a speaker for a specific topic. I can probably help steer you to a few good choices. > For folks willing to participate in the Monster App contest, the polls are > still open and we are taking > suggestions... > > Here is the google group address for the Denver Rails User Group aka > DeRailed: > > http://groups.google.com/group/derailed Thanks for the info. If anyone in the group is interested in Rails specifically, I'd encourage you to check out the DeRailed meeting. It's safe to bet they'll take more about Rails than we will. BTW, I will be putting together an email shortly on our next meeting. Hopefully I'll have it out before the end of the weekend. Cheers, Marty From mghaught at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 17:50:33 2006 From: mghaught at gmail.com (Marty Haught) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:50:33 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Boulder-Denver Ruby Group Meeting Message-ID: <57f29e620602211450l4ea1c8f0v636d0e69cc86201e@mail.gmail.com> Hey All, I wanted to post a few questions about future meeting formats to gauge your level of interest and thoughts. First, we're going to be doing a Ruby 101 presentation at 6pm to kick off the meeting. Ruby 101 will cover one aspect of Ruby per meeting so that beginners and experienced Rubyists can feel they have a good grasp of that facet of Ruby. I'll have details of the first Ruby 101 presentation when I announce the March meeting. Second, we talked a bit about working on some actual code as a group. One suggestion was to help get RubyGems ready to join the Ruby core. Another option is to work on the group's website (a Rails app). There are several approaches to how we could do this. First, we could do a walk through as the main presentation and we could collectively work on it. Second, we could break into small groups and work on one specific thing but with 3-4 people max. Finally, we could have a separate time for this work, such as another night in the month. I see great advantages to doing this in some fashion. As an agile developer pairing with another person can be a great learning experience. It is essentially mentoring while working on something concrete. I couldn't think of a better way to learn Ruby or Rails. Please voice your opinion on which one approach you would prefer. If we choose another night, we'll need to discuss when and where. Third, should we continue to do dinner at the meeting? Collective Intellect has been very generous in supporting this but I want to make sure there's enough interest in having food on hand. We know we won't be doing pizza in the future so if you have any workable ideas please throw them out there. If many of you could care less if we have food at the meeting, we could discontinue it too. Finally, we have several options for volunteering within the Boulder-Denver Ruby group. I'll list them below. If you feel drawn to stepping up, please let me know off list. Also, feel free to email me privately if you have any questions, criticisms or suggestions. Cheers, Marty Volunteering Opportunities Boulder-Denver Ruby Site (Rails application) RubyGems RubyConf 2006 From stimits at comcast.net Thu Feb 23 22:51:22 2006 From: stimits at comcast.net (D. Stimits) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:51:22 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Ruby, Rails, wikis Message-ID: <43FE82BA.2000801@comcast.net> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows which software runs the rubyforge web site? Especially wiki features. I'm kind of hoping it's a rails app, but maybe not. I'm having problems getting "Riki" wiki installed, and it looks like the Pandora stuff is all beta testing without general availability. I'm also curious if anyone here has tested the PostgreSQL interface with rails? I know a lot revolves around MySQL, but I really love the features of PostgreSQL (and I like its license better). D. Stimits, stimits AT comcast DOT net From chad at chadfowler.com Thu Feb 23 23:18:26 2006 From: chad at chadfowler.com (Chad Fowler) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:18:26 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Ruby, Rails, wikis In-Reply-To: <43FE82BA.2000801@comcast.net> References: <43FE82BA.2000801@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Feb 23, 2006, at 8:51 PM, D. Stimits wrote: > Hi, > I was wondering if anyone knows which software runs the rubyforge web > site? Especially wiki features. I'm kind of hoping it's a rails > app, but > maybe not. > It is sadly not even in Ruby. The main website is driven by GForge and the Wiki is a Perl wiki called Usemod. > I'm having problems getting "Riki" wiki installed, and it looks > like the > Pandora stuff is all beta testing without general availability. > Have you tried Instiki? Chad From stimits at comcast.net Sun Feb 26 20:24:07 2006 From: stimits at comcast.net (D. Stimits) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:24:07 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Ruby, Rails, wikis In-Reply-To: References: <43FE82BA.2000801@comcast.net> Message-ID: <440254B7.7000503@comcast.net> Chad Fowler wrote: > On Feb 23, 2006, at 8:51 PM, D. Stimits wrote: > > >>Hi, >>I was wondering if anyone knows which software runs the rubyforge web >>site? Especially wiki features. I'm kind of hoping it's a rails >>app, but >>maybe not. >> > > > It is sadly not even in Ruby. The main website is driven by GForge > and the Wiki is a Perl wiki called Usemod. > > >>I'm having problems getting "Riki" wiki installed, and it looks >>like the >> Pandora stuff is all beta testing without general availability. >> > > > Have you tried Instiki? Just tried, but failed due to dependencies (gem's --include-dependencies did not help). I'm using Fedora Core 4, kept updated. The original ruby install was via the normal RPM. Gem was a source download and manual install. The rest (such as rails) were from gem install. Oddly, Instiki does not complain my version of RedCloth is too old. Nope, it complains it's just the wrong version, it wants 3.0.3, but the installed version is 3.0.4. Any idea if this is a bug or just something that needs to be edited to get it to install? I hate starting out with some sort of "force and ignore dependency" thing. D. Stimits, stimits AT comcast DOT net From chad at chadfowler.com Sun Feb 26 20:32:16 2006 From: chad at chadfowler.com (Chad Fowler) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:32:16 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Ruby, Rails, wikis In-Reply-To: <440254B7.7000503@comcast.net> References: <43FE82BA.2000801@comcast.net> <440254B7.7000503@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1C030FB2-DC07-4BBB-A21B-E03B472895A9@chadfowler.com> On Feb 26, 2006, at 6:24 PM, D. Stimits wrote: > Chad Fowler wrote: >> On Feb 23, 2006, at 8:51 PM, D. Stimits wrote: >> >> >>> Hi, >>> I was wondering if anyone knows which software runs the rubyforge >>> web >>> site? Especially wiki features. I'm kind of hoping it's a rails >>> app, but >>> maybe not. >>> >> >> >> It is sadly not even in Ruby. The main website is driven by GForge >> and the Wiki is a Perl wiki called Usemod. >> >> >>> I'm having problems getting "Riki" wiki installed, and it looks >>> like the >>> Pandora stuff is all beta testing without general availability. >>> >> >> >> Have you tried Instiki? > > Just tried, but failed due to dependencies (gem's --include- > dependencies > did not help). > > I'm using Fedora Core 4, kept updated. The original ruby install > was via > the normal RPM. Gem was a source download and manual install. The rest > (such as rails) were from gem install. > > Oddly, Instiki does not complain my version of RedCloth is too old. > Nope, it complains it's just the wrong version, it wants 3.0.3, but > the > installed version is 3.0.4. Any idea if this is a bug or just > something > that needs to be edited to get it to install? I hate starting out with > some sort of "force and ignore dependency" thing. > Can you paste the actual error message somewhere? It installed cleanly for me: Chad-Fowlers-Computer% sudo gem install instiki Password: Attempting local installation of 'instiki' Local gem file not found: instiki*.gem Attempting remote installation of 'instiki' Updating Gem source index for: http://gems.rubyforge.org Successfully installed instiki-0.10.2 Chad-Fowlers-Computer% instiki => Starting Instiki on http://0.0.0.0:2500 => Data files are stored in /Users/chadfowler/storage/2500 [2006-02-26 18:31:11] INFO WEBrick 1.3.1 [2006-02-26 18:31:11] INFO ruby 1.8.2 (2004-12-25) [powerpc-darwin8.0] [2006-02-26 18:31:13] INFO WEBrick::HTTPServer#start: pid=776 port=2500 Chad From stimits at comcast.net Sun Feb 26 20:46:34 2006 From: stimits at comcast.net (D. Stimits) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:46:34 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Ruby, Rails, wikis In-Reply-To: <1C030FB2-DC07-4BBB-A21B-E03B472895A9@chadfowler.com> References: <43FE82BA.2000801@comcast.net> <440254B7.7000503@comcast.net> <1C030FB2-DC07-4BBB-A21B-E03B472895A9@chadfowler.com> Message-ID: <440259FA.1050005@comcast.net> ... > Can you paste the actual error message somewhere? It installed cleanly > for me: > > > Chad-Fowlers-Computer% sudo gem install instiki > Password: > Attempting local installation of 'instiki' > Local gem file not found: instiki*.gem > Attempting remote installation of 'instiki' > Updating Gem source index for: http://gems.rubyforge.org > Successfully installed instiki-0.10.2 > Chad-Fowlers-Computer% instiki > => Starting Instiki on http://0.0.0.0:2500 > => Data files are stored in /Users/chadfowler/storage/2500 > [2006-02-26 18:31:11] INFO WEBrick 1.3.1 > [2006-02-26 18:31:11] INFO ruby 1.8.2 (2004-12-25) [powerpc-darwin8.0] > [2006-02-26 18:31:13] INFO WEBrick::HTTPServer#start: pid=776 port=2500 > > > > Chad > gem install --include-dependencies instiki-0.10.2.gem Attempting local installation of 'instiki-0.10.2.gem' ERROR: Error installing gem instiki-0.10.2.gem[.gem]: instiki requires RedCloth = 3.0.3 I had downloaded that gem file. If I run updatedb and locate RedCloth, you can see this snippet: /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/RedCloth-3.0.4 Maybe I should use a different version of instiki? D. Stimits, stimits AT comcast DOT net From brian at heimidal.net Sun Feb 26 21:54:22 2006 From: brian at heimidal.net (Brian Rose) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:54:22 -0700 Subject: [Boulder-Denver Ruby Group] Any experience with acts_as_versioned? Message-ID: <8308FA02-9D39-464E-9B99-D3F30194E7E2@heimidal.net> Hi, I'm new around here and am excited that there's a Ruby user group in the Denver area. I'm having a bit of a problem with acts_as_versioned and am unable to find much documentation. I am trying to exclude fields from being versioned. One resource I found said that you must simply leave the field out of the version table and acts_as_versioned will automatically pick up which fields should be versioned and which should be ignored. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case. Doing so produces the following error: undefined method `description=' for # I'm using Rails r3492 with acts_as_versioned 0.2.3 installed as a gem. I appreciate whatever help you can offer! Thanks, Brian Brian 'Heimidal' Rose brian at heimidal.net http://www.heimidal.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/bdrg-members/attachments/20060226/66192d4a/attachment.htm