From deveritt at innotts.co.uk  Mon Aug  3 06:32:47 2009
From: deveritt at innotts.co.uk (Dave Everitt)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:32:47 +0100
Subject: New 1.5 blog example
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Hi Magnus

> While I can't have a look at it at the moment (no Internet access),  
> it's very nice of you! Maybe we can merge them and get an even  
> better blog.rb in v2.

very happy to do that, but you'd better take a look first - I'm still  
in both the Ruby/Camping shallows here, and also new to github...

> As for the documentation ideas, I've already implemented the  
> templates in RDoc, so "rake docs" builds all the three parts (the  
> book is simply files in the book directory). I still need to make a  
> way to link book chapters from the reference, but at least it's  
> working. A Camping app can be useful when you want to edit it, so  
> you don't need to run the rake task all the time.

I've generated an entry on rdoc.info (BTW it uses Sinatra!) and it's  
done a very nice job of presenting the documentation, which can now  
be updated anytime:

http://rdoc.info/projects/judofyr/camping

> I guess we could also implement it as a wiki, which might be  
> better. Then we can't have it on camping.rubyforge.org (unless we  
> can change the DNS-settings) though since it only allows static  
> files. What do you think? I prefer having everything in files, and  
> I think those who really want to contribute to the book wouldn't  
> mind a "git clone"...

since rdoc.info above now does the job, I guess the Github wiki can  
serve to capture and edit user community knowledge. That's everything  
covered? Apart from a dedicated website, of course :-)

> Right now I'm on vacation, but I'll try to push it out when I  
> return. Feel free to write some paragraphs if you're really keen, I  
> only have a bare skeleton.

if I find anything missing, or I can't understand it, I'll make  
suggestions about small edits for clarity.

Dave


>> On 27. juli 2009, at 16.57, Dave Everitt <deveritt at innotts.co.uk>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>> Hello Campers...
>>
>> I've just finished a (hopefully) nicer-looking Camping 1.5 blog  
>> example, adapted from one of the originals:
>> http://pastie.org/560295
>>
>> Things I've done:
>>    added a delete class,
>>    combined the add/edit/delete method into one,
>>    made a little 'cooked up while camping' logo,
>>    tweaked the CSS so it looks kind-of-ready for deployment,
>>    called it 'tentpole' because it's so simple (that's a joke).
>>
>> I know there's the clean, new example for v2 on Github, but I  
>> don't have Camping v2 up and running yet (I will, soon), so this  
>> is for anyone who needs to point to a simple, working a 1.5-ready  
>> example with minimal setup requirements.
>>
>> Still keen on Magnus' documentation ideas (below) and happy to  
>> start... I think the book should be a Camping app :-)
>>
>> Dave Everitt


From judofyr at gmail.com  Mon Aug  3 20:01:25 2009
From: judofyr at gmail.com (Magnus Holm)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:01:25 +0200
Subject: Code Review: Cleanup of examples + Rackification
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No comments? I'm going to merge it then :-)

//Magnus Holm



On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 23:03, Magnus Holm<judofyr at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey guys, I had some unfinished stuff in my working directory which I've now
> pushed out to the rackification-branch at my fork. Even though I have
> push-permissions to why's repo, I still like the idea that we should all
> decide which ways Camping should go, and this includes quite a bit of code:
>
> == Cleanup of blog.rb
> ?http://github.com/judofyr/camping/commit/957c907cc925ab8c58ddff94f4bc6ddd27f7285f
> Just making it simpler and not so magically.
>
> == Removal of tepee.rb and campsh.rb
> ?http://github.com/judofyr/camping/commit/3c87b0a6f028bb315ddb2196a1f09d5ba640b865
> Currently these are not working 100% correctly so until we clean these up, I
> think it's a good idea to remove them to avoid confusion. They're still
> hidden in Git's history, so it's more like hiding them than removing them.
>
> == Add Camping.use
> ?http://github.com/judofyr/camping/commit/0d21c240963226bb40038de3fe0f111928889215
> This allows the user to inject middlewares so they become a part of the app:
> module App
> ??use Somemiddleware, 123, 456
> ??# Equals to adding Somemiddleware.new(App, 123, 456) on the "outside".
> ??use Stackable, :yes => "they are"
> end
>
> == Session refactoring
> ?http://github.com/judofyr/camping/commit/332e0a190a6bbf1af7e8d7812ec3f816727efc38
> Okay, this is larger one:
> Now that we can inject middleware, we can make Camping::Session simply "use
> Rack::Session::Cookie". This means a smaller Camping (lib/camping that is,
> not camping.rb) and less code to maintain. I've also added a "secret" method
> to change the secret key (the name may be a little too generic though):
> module App
> ??include Camping::Session
> ??secret "Hello!"
> end
> However, in order to use Rack::Session::Cookie I had to change some internal
> stuff. First of all, @env is now the Hash passed into #call (earlier this
> was a Camping::H[@env]). This is because all the rack.session stuff require
> changing the originial @env in order to save sessions.?@state is also now
> set in Base#initialize and is always based on rack.session. This means that
> any middleware who sets env['rack.session'] to some Hash will make Camping
> pick it up and put it in @state. In Base#to_a (which is used to finialize
> stuff) there's a simple "@env['rack.session'] = @state" to save the
> sessions.
> I've also removed Camping::ARSession, since I didn't feel like rewriting it
> as a Rack middleware. Please call out if it's missed.
>
> == Simplify things that Rack gives us for free
> ?http://github.com/judofyr/camping/commit/a7cff36813b899b48fe0d196d2ea54bd7377e6e5
> Rack now parses nested params and we can now safely assume SCRIPT_NAME and
> REQUEST_METHOD to be set thanks to the Rack spec. Saves us some bytes.
> camping.rb is at 2999 bytes after these patches.
> --
> So what do you think? Any obvious things I'm missing? Yeah, I know I've
> probably broken some backward?compatibility, but remember that 1.9 is after
> all a preview release, and 2.0 *is* a major update.
> Have a look and don't be afraid to call out the stupid parts :-)
>
> //Magnus Holm (who now has no excuse for not starting on the docs)
>

From deveritt at innotts.co.uk  Tue Aug  4 03:24:26 2009
From: deveritt at innotts.co.uk (Dave Everitt)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:24:26 +0100
Subject: Code Review: Cleanup of examples + Rackification
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Fine by me. Did you see my recent post to the list about:

1. adding the docs to rdoc.info (which I did a couple of days ago),

2. your suggestion to merge the enhanced blog example I put on Pastie:
    'merge them and get an even better blog.rb in v2' ?
    (although this make it less minimal.)

Dave Everitt

> No comments? I'm going to merge it then :-)


From judofyr at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 15:38:08 2009
From: judofyr at gmail.com (Magnus Holm)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:38:08 +0200
Subject: README, API reference + book
Message-ID: <391a49da0908071238g24602d56wf52c3371dae950bd@mail.gmail.com>

Hey everybody,

Let's see:

* git clone git://github.com/why/camping
* rake docs
* (or just visit http://stuff.judofyr.net/camping-docs/)
* It's just a RDoc template/formatter
* It should build with regular RDoc (see rake rubygems_docs or
http://stuff.judofyr.net/camping-docs/camping-1.9.335/rdoc/).
* but it looks way better with flipbook.rb
* It requires RDoc 2.4 (gem install rdoc)
* It allows linking: {long name}[link:book/01_introduction.html#installation]
* The book is pretty much empty.
* The reference need to be much shorter and concise. Should move stuff
into the book.
* There should probably be better separation of classes in the
reference (what alternate background colors?).
* and I should merge rick's changes.
* I should stop writing in lists.


This is what *I* really want in the book, I guess you have :

1. Introduction
2. Getting Started (goes through MVC + Camping)
3. Understanding HTTP (more in depth about HTTP/REST)
4. Understanding Rack
5. Hacking Camping
6. Appendix: Upgrading from 1.5 to 2.0

Of course, we only need 1, 2 and 6 in 2.0. The rest can come later.
Oh, and by "book", I simply mean a multi-page tutorial :-)

//Magnus Holm

From kprojection at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 15:56:17 2009
From: kprojection at gmail.com (Eric Mill)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:56:17 -0400
Subject: Easy deployment on DreamHost with Phusion Passenger
In-Reply-To: <c658be6b0907201956s134160f1r9f2991a121a5b18f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4a78c6fd0907201121u3043d044t36be17b28b215402@mail.gmail.com> 
	<c658be6b0907201155x740c364aj90ef9058f12bbb5@mail.gmail.com> 
	<c658be6b0907201157u19ce2544x7954011699261d51@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4a78c6fd0907201912rf7be007qc49444e859b2e88f@mail.gmail.com> 
	<c658be6b0907201955r45e7d8bdj4b6cf65cca6cc5f0@mail.gmail.com> 
	<c658be6b0907201956s134160f1r9f2991a121a5b18f@mail.gmail.com>
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So, I switched my Camping app from Camping 1.5 to Camping 2.0 and
deployed it using these Passenger instructions...

...worked the first time! Amazing!  I spent several hours figuring out
the FastCGI shared hosting instructions for Dreamhost for Camping 1.5,
and for Camping 2.0.  This is hideously easier and faster.

Thanks again, sir!

-- Eric

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Eric Mill<kprojection at gmail.com> wrote:
> You are awesome! I'm gonna switch my Camping app to passenger and test it
> out at the next opportunity.
>
> -- Eric
>
> On Jul 20, 2009 8:12 PM, "Roland Crosby" <roland at rolandcrosby.com> wrote:
>
> OK, I updated the Dreamhost wiki
> and?http://wiki.github.com/why/camping/camping-on-shared-hosting with a
> configuration that worked for me - other people using Dreamhost and/or
> Passenger, let me know if
> this?works?for?you,?or?if?there?are?other?tips?and?tricks?that?you?suggest.
> Roland
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Eric Mill <kprojection at gmail.com> wrote: >
>> Here's the link to t...
>
> _______________________________________________
> Camping-list mailing list
> Camping-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
>

From judofyr at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 16:12:31 2009
From: judofyr at gmail.com (Magnus Holm)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:12:31 +0200
Subject: Easy deployment on DreamHost with Phusion Passenger
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References: <4a78c6fd0907201121u3043d044t36be17b28b215402@mail.gmail.com> 
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	<c658be6b0907201157u19ce2544x7954011699261d51@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4a78c6fd0907201912rf7be007qc49444e859b2e88f@mail.gmail.com> 
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Did you have any problems upgrading from 1.5? We'll have to write down
a little guide :-)

//Magnus Holm



On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 21:56, Eric Mill<kprojection at gmail.com> wrote:
> So, I switched my Camping app from Camping 1.5 to Camping 2.0 and
> deployed it using these Passenger instructions...
>
> ...worked the first time! Amazing! ?I spent several hours figuring out
> the FastCGI shared hosting instructions for Dreamhost for Camping 1.5,
> and for Camping 2.0. ?This is hideously easier and faster.
>
> Thanks again, sir!
>
> -- Eric
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Eric Mill<kprojection at gmail.com> wrote:
>> You are awesome! I'm gonna switch my Camping app to passenger and test it
>> out at the next opportunity.
>>
>> -- Eric
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2009 8:12 PM, "Roland Crosby" <roland at rolandcrosby.com> wrote:
>>
>> OK, I updated the Dreamhost wiki
>> and?http://wiki.github.com/why/camping/camping-on-shared-hosting with a
>> configuration that worked for me - other people using Dreamhost and/or
>> Passenger, let me know if
>> this?works?for?you,?or?if?there?are?other?tips?and?tricks?that?you?suggest.
>> Roland
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Eric Mill <kprojection at gmail.com> wrote: >
>>> Here's the link to t...
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Camping-list mailing list
>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Camping-list mailing list
> Camping-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
>

From kprojection at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 16:22:53 2009
From: kprojection at gmail.com (Eric Mill)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:22:53 -0400
Subject: Easy deployment on DreamHost with Phusion Passenger
In-Reply-To: <391a49da0908071312i2671acd5p853a6dbaa4401356@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4a78c6fd0907201121u3043d044t36be17b28b215402@mail.gmail.com> 
	<c658be6b0907201155x740c364aj90ef9058f12bbb5@mail.gmail.com> 
	<c658be6b0907201157u19ce2544x7954011699261d51@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4a78c6fd0907201912rf7be007qc49444e859b2e88f@mail.gmail.com> 
	<c658be6b0907201955r45e7d8bdj4b6cf65cca6cc5f0@mail.gmail.com> 
	<c658be6b0907201956s134160f1r9f2991a121a5b18f@mail.gmail.com> 
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Nope, I didn't have to change anything.  And for getting it working in
development, it was made easier by me copying the preamble that you
had helped me concoct so long ago for another app that I did in
Camping 2.0 from the get go, so that helped.

For reference, the site I'm talking about is ohnomymoney.com, and the
code for it that I'm talking about is here:
http://github.com/klondike/money/blob/b0d7c8c9bcaae9ccd6aa90a2a819168f8b5c28a9/money.rb

-- Eric

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Magnus Holm<judofyr at gmail.com> wrote:
> Did you have any problems upgrading from 1.5? We'll have to write down
> a little guide :-)
>
> //Magnus Holm
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 21:56, Eric Mill<kprojection at gmail.com> wrote:
>> So, I switched my Camping app from Camping 1.5 to Camping 2.0 and
>> deployed it using these Passenger instructions...
>>
>> ...worked the first time! Amazing! ?I spent several hours figuring out
>> the FastCGI shared hosting instructions for Dreamhost for Camping 1.5,
>> and for Camping 2.0. ?This is hideously easier and faster.
>>
>> Thanks again, sir!
>>
>> -- Eric
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Eric Mill<kprojection at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> You are awesome! I'm gonna switch my Camping app to passenger and test it
>>> out at the next opportunity.
>>>
>>> -- Eric
>>>
>>> On Jul 20, 2009 8:12 PM, "Roland Crosby" <roland at rolandcrosby.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, I updated the Dreamhost wiki
>>> and?http://wiki.github.com/why/camping/camping-on-shared-hosting with a
>>> configuration that worked for me - other people using Dreamhost and/or
>>> Passenger, let me know if
>>> this?works?for?you,?or?if?there?are?other?tips?and?tricks?that?you?suggest.
>>> Roland
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Eric Mill <kprojection at gmail.com> wrote: >
>>>> Here's the link to t...
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Camping-list mailing list
>>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Camping-list mailing list
>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list

From his2000x at gmail.com  Sun Aug 16 21:59:10 2009
From: his2000x at gmail.com (in-seok hwang)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:59:10 +0900
Subject: hi all! can't open github!!
Message-ID: <da31d7190908161859r2ae4243ay4d7b3bf7902890ff@mail.gmail.com>

hi all!

can't open github (http://github.com/why/camping/tree/master)

What's going on?
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From john.beppu at gmail.com  Sun Aug 16 23:02:38 2009
From: john.beppu at gmail.com (John Beppu)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:02:38 -0700
Subject: hi all! can't open github!!
In-Reply-To: <da31d7190908161859r2ae4243ay4d7b3bf7902890ff@mail.gmail.com>
References: <da31d7190908161859r2ae4243ay4d7b3bf7902890ff@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <21a10fe00908162002h4777fcc1pf7d90f3193d483a8@mail.gmail.com>

It's a little slow over at github, but the page loads for me (sometimes).
They must be experiencing a lot of traffic.

--beppu

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 6:59 PM, in-seok hwang <his2000x at gmail.com> wrote:

> hi all!
>
> can't open github (http://github.com/why/camping/tree/master)
>
> What's going on?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Camping-list mailing list
> Camping-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
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From kprojection at gmail.com  Mon Aug 17 00:52:40 2009
From: kprojection at gmail.com (Eric Mill)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:52:40 -0400
Subject: hi all! can't open github!!
In-Reply-To: <21a10fe00908162002h4777fcc1pf7d90f3193d483a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <da31d7190908161859r2ae4243ay4d7b3bf7902890ff@mail.gmail.com> 
	<21a10fe00908162002h4777fcc1pf7d90f3193d483a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c658be6b0908162152t62740c4bg84756bcf5f77b726@mail.gmail.com>

If they weren't then, they are now:
http://xkcd.com/624/

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:02 PM, John Beppu<john.beppu at gmail.com> wrote:
> It's a little slow over at github, but the page loads for me (sometimes).
> They must be experiencing a lot of traffic.
>
> --beppu
>
> On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 6:59 PM, in-seok hwang <his2000x at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> hi all!
>>
>> can't open github (http://github.com/why/camping/tree/master)
>>
>> What's going on?
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Camping-list mailing list
>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Camping-list mailing list
> Camping-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
>

From deveritt at innotts.co.uk  Mon Aug 17 06:05:25 2009
From: deveritt at innotts.co.uk (Dave Everitt)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:05:25 +0100
Subject: hi all! can't open github!!
In-Reply-To: <c658be6b0908162152t62740c4bg84756bcf5f77b726@mail.gmail.com>
References: <da31d7190908161859r2ae4243ay4d7b3bf7902890ff@mail.gmail.com>
	<21a10fe00908162002h4777fcc1pf7d90f3193d483a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<c658be6b0908162152t62740c4bg84756bcf5f77b726@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EF94E5DC-774D-471E-90A2-0A212293C2FE@innotts.co.uk>

ROFL! - DaveE

> If they weren't then, they are now:
> http://xkcd.com/624/


From his2000x at gmail.com  Mon Aug 17 21:35:06 2009
From: his2000x at gmail.com (in-seok hwang)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:35:06 +0900
Subject: hi all! can't open github!!
In-Reply-To: <EF94E5DC-774D-471E-90A2-0A212293C2FE@innotts.co.uk>
References: <da31d7190908161859r2ae4243ay4d7b3bf7902890ff@mail.gmail.com>
	<21a10fe00908162002h4777fcc1pf7d90f3193d483a8@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <da31d7190908171835q13cf5debq818f64ad1234e2ef@mail.gmail.com>

What is this url(http://xkcd.com/624/ <http://xkcd.com/624/>)?


2009/8/17 Dave Everitt <deveritt at innotts.co.uk>

> ROFL! - DaveE
>
>  If they weren't then, they are now:
>> http://xkcd.com/624/
>>
>
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From dsusco at gmail.com  Tue Aug 18 09:08:07 2009
From: dsusco at gmail.com (David Susco)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:08:07 -0400
Subject: hi all! can't open github!!
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It's a link to a web comic, xkcd. It's work safe.

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:35 PM, in-seok hwang<his2000x at gmail.com> wrote:
> What is this url(http://xkcd.com/624/)?
>
>
> 2009/8/17 Dave Everitt <deveritt at innotts.co.uk>
>>
>> ROFL! - DaveE
>>
>>> If they weren't then, they are now:
>>> http://xkcd.com/624/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Camping-list mailing list
>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Camping-list mailing list
> Camping-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
>



-- 
Dave

From zimbatm at oree.ch  Thu Aug 20 08:44:03 2009
From: zimbatm at oree.ch (zimbatm)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:44:03 +0200
Subject: hi all! can't open github!!
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	<EF94E5DC-774D-471E-90A2-0A212293C2FE@innotts.co.uk>
	<da31d7190908171835q13cf5debq818f64ad1234e2ef@mail.gmail.com>
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_why is missing from the internet. He closed his accounts and domains.
Nobody really know why he did that but I believe he decided to move to
something else, like he did when he closed redhanded.

_why, if you're still reading, know that you are a true inspiration to
me and hope that you will continue to inspire people in your next
hobby.

cheers,
   zimbatm

From judofyr at gmail.com  Fri Aug 21 02:28:34 2009
From: judofyr at gmail.com (Magnus Holm)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:28:34 +0200
Subject: What now?
Message-ID: <391a49da0908202328m6ae20fa1vf4812380d54a742@mail.gmail.com>

Okay, _why has left us, but since Camping has been community-driven for a
while I think we can handle this.

First of all, we need a new home for Camping at GitHub for code, wiki and
the bug tracker. As far as I can see, it looks like we have three options:

whymirror/camping - Use the whymirror's repo.
judofyr/camping - Use my repo.
camping/camping - Create a new user.

I'm not really a fan of having it at my repo. Yes, I had push-permissions to
why/camping earlier, but I'm not going to be a 100% maintainer for Camping
now. Don't worry, I will work with Camping (simply because I love the code),
I will push the patches we agree on and I will release when we're ready.
However, I can't promise to be there if you have a critical bug, security
hole or something like that. I probably will though, but don't depend on it.
Hopefully all of you guys will help out when you can. I think the community
deserves to be the maintainer of Camping :-)

I'm also trying to do
the final touches on the documentation, so hopefully we can also
release 2.0 soon. (About time, isn't it?)
//Magnus Holm
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From deveritt at innotts.co.uk  Fri Aug 21 08:52:00 2009
From: deveritt at innotts.co.uk (Dave Everitt)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:52:00 +0100
Subject: What now?
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I'm for this option:

> camping/camping - Create a new user.



From jeremymcanally at gmail.com  Fri Aug 21 08:57:07 2009
From: jeremymcanally at gmail.com (Jeremy McAnally)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:57:07 -0500
Subject: What now?
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> I'm for this option:
>
>> camping/camping - Create a new user.

Yup I like that option, too.

--Jeremy


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From lists at groll.co.za  Fri Aug 21 09:10:29 2009
From: lists at groll.co.za (Jonathan Groll)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:10:29 +0200
Subject: What now?
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 08:28:34AM +0200, Magnus Holm wrote:
>Okay, _why has left us, but since Camping has been community-driven for a
>while I think we can handle this.
>
>First of all, we need a new home for Camping at GitHub for code, wiki and
>the bug tracker. As far as I can see, it looks like we have three options:
>
>whymirror/camping - Use the whymirror's repo.
>judofyr/camping - Use my repo.
>camping/camping - Create a new user.
>
>I'm not really a fan of having it at my repo. Yes, I had push-permissions to
>why/camping earlier, but I'm not going to be a 100% maintainer for Camping
>now. Don't worry, I will work with Camping (simply because I love the code),
>I will push the patches we agree on and I will release when we're ready.
>However, I can't promise to be there if you have a critical bug, security
>hole or something like that. I probably will though, but don't depend on it.
>Hopefully all of you guys will help out when you can. I think the community
>deserves to be the maintainer of Camping :-)
>
>I'm also trying to do
>the final touches on the documentation, so hopefully we can also
>release 2.0 soon. (About time, isn't it?)
>//Magnus Holm

Magnus - what is left to document - could you let the list know so
that we can all chip in?

I for one think it would be sensible to create a 'camping' account on
github.

Since Magnus' original post was not very clear as to _why leaving us
(I actually thought Magnus was simply pointing out that _why has not
posted to this list for a long time now) it seems that the majority of
his sites are now giving a 111 when requested, including hackety.org
and his github account has been deleted too (it is now held by a
'benign' squatter). He seems to have simply become the "Polo Champ Who
Gave It All Up for No Reason Whatsoever".

With grief,
Jonathan.

From zimbatm at oree.ch  Fri Aug 28 05:37:30 2009
From: zimbatm at oree.ch (zimbatm)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:37:30 +0200
Subject: What now?
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+1 for camping/camping at github . Also, why not use the github pages
to host the camping website