From chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org Tue Jun 14 00:41:20 2005 From: chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org (chicagogroup-members-list@rubyforge.org) Date: Tue Jun 14 00:36:57 2005 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Chicago City Ruby Group this Saturday, 6/18 Message-ID: <9658d5a20506132141659ef1dd@mail.gmail.com> The Chicago city Ruby group is overdue for our monthly meeting, so here goes: This coming Saturday, 6/18, 4 PM, Metropolis Cafe, 1039 W Granville, in Chicago. http://www.metropoliscoffee.net/ Agenda: * What's the most fun you've had with Ruby recently? * Do we want to continue to pay money to meetup.com (the group is currently organizer-less [un-organized?]? * Do we want a general Ruby group, or more a Rails group? * What else do you want to talk about? Bring your laptop and your bad self. RSVP to daniel dot delapava at gmail dot com (Daniel), or splaestro at gmail dot com (Brian). Hope to see you there! Brian Young From chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org Tue Jun 14 15:33:47 2005 From: chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org (chicagogroup-members-list@rubyforge.org) Date: Tue Jun 14 15:29:25 2005 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Test message Message-ID: <9658d5a20506141233297b2058@mail.gmail.com> Just a test to see if the list is still working... From chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org Tue Jun 14 16:30:47 2005 From: chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org (chicagogroup-members-list@rubyforge.org) Date: Tue Jun 14 16:26:24 2005 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Chicago City Ruby Group this Saturday, 6/18 In-Reply-To: <9658d5a20506132141659ef1dd@mail.gmail.com> References: <9658d5a20506132141659ef1dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3096c19d05061413301a29aec8@mail.gmail.com> Hi Ruby guys, If you guys want to ditch meetup.com, I can hook you up with some freebie server space. I host the Chicago Python web-stuff. The server is pretty flexible and should be able to run a custom mod_ruby setup, or something similar. Let me know if you're interested. I'd really like to come to a meeting one of these months, sadly I'm out of town on Saturday. Chris McAvoy On 6/13/05, chicagogroup-members-list@rubyforge.org wrote: > The Chicago city Ruby group is overdue for our monthly meeting, so here goes: > > This coming Saturday, 6/18, 4 PM, Metropolis Cafe, 1039 W Granville, > in Chicago. > > http://www.metropoliscoffee.net/ > > Agenda: > > * What's the most fun you've had with Ruby recently? > > * Do we want to continue to pay money to meetup.com (the group is > currently organizer-less [un-organized?]? > > * Do we want a general Ruby group, or more a Rails group? > > * What else do you want to talk about? > > Bring your laptop and your bad self. > > RSVP to daniel dot delapava at gmail dot com (Daniel), or splaestro at > gmail dot com (Brian). Hope to see you there! > > Brian Young > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List mailing list > ChicagoGroup-Members-List@rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > From chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org Thu Jun 16 16:16:40 2005 From: chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org (chicagogroup-members-list@rubyforge.org) Date: Thu Jun 16 16:12:14 2005 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Pragmatic Rails Training Message-ID: <058AAC0961229846952CE8A4D8701E96018468D5@exchange02.centerpostcorp.com> Dave Thomas and Mike Clark are planning to run a Rails bootcamp in various cities: http://blogs.pragprog.com/cgi-bin/pragdave.cgi/Random/RailsTraining.rdoc If you think you would attend, be sure to vote for a Chicago session on the wiki: http://wiki.pragprog.com/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi/RailsTrainingVenue From chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org Fri Jun 17 17:18:21 2005 From: chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org (chicagogroup-members-list@rubyforge.org) Date: Fri Jun 17 17:13:54 2005 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Chicago City Ruby Group this Saturday, 6/18 In-Reply-To: <9658d5a20506132141659ef1dd@mail.gmail.com> References: <9658d5a20506132141659ef1dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42B33E1D.4000108@gmail.com> Brian, thanks for sending the reminder for the meeting. It would be nice to pick a domain name tomorrow so we can start our web presence. Anyone making plans to attend the RubyConf 2005? http://www.rubycentral.org/conference See you tomorrow, Sat 4 pm a@ Metropolis Cafe. - Daniel P.S. Please note that as of 11 June 2005 the Chicago Community Colocation Project is officially open... w00t! http://chiccp.net/ ----------------------------------------------------- Daniel Delapava, Liaison Chicago Community Colocation Project cell: 773-454-0820 http://www.chiccp.net daniel@chiccp.net chicagogroup-members-list@rubyforge.org wrote: >The Chicago city Ruby group is overdue for our monthly meeting, so here goes: > >This coming Saturday, 6/18, 4 PM, Metropolis Cafe, 1039 W Granville, >in Chicago. > >http://www.metropoliscoffee.net/ > >Agenda: > >* What's the most fun you've had with Ruby recently? > >* Do we want to continue to pay money to meetup.com (the group is >currently organizer-less [un-organized?]? > >* Do we want a general Ruby group, or more a Rails group? > >* What else do you want to talk about? > >Bring your laptop and your bad self. > >RSVP to daniel dot delapava at gmail dot com (Daniel), or splaestro at >gmail dot com (Brian). Hope to see you there! > >Brian Young > >_______________________________________________ >ChicagoGroup-Members-List mailing list >ChicagoGroup-Members-List@rubyforge.org >http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > > > From chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org Mon Jun 20 12:37:23 2005 From: chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org (chicagogroup-members-list@rubyforge.org) Date: Mon Jun 20 12:32:54 2005 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Rails contract, poss. this week Message-ID: <89FB732A-6E34-4241-87F5-A20E4D78797A@gmail.com> Dear Ruby kin, I've been invited to a possible Rails contract this week, and was asked to find another developer to work with. I'm Ryan Platte-- if you don't remember, I'm the guy who hosted the meetup with DHH at Site 9. I come to you with possible work: I've been invited to a possible Rails contract this week. There's a VoIP company that needs end-user and reseller portals built against a web services backend (not known yet if the web services will be RESTian or SOAPy). The guy I talked to wanted a second Rails person to work on this with me, and John Long has already indicated that he's too swamped right now. Their estimate is that the work will need four 40-hour weeks for two people working together. I would like to do at least some pair programming. Work would likely start mid- to late next week. If you're interested in exploring this, please reply or call my cell ASAP, any time you can call is fine: (815) 600-1324. Hope to hear from you! -- Ryan Platte -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20050620/62ddf255/attachment.htm From chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org Mon Jun 20 13:09:12 2005 From: chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org (chicagogroup-members-list@rubyforge.org) Date: Mon Jun 20 13:04:40 2005 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] migration class Message-ID: <0bb01b4385c99731dfc44b78f8e80fa1@sus4.net> during the meetup with DHH, he mentioned an undocumented migration class that he was beginning to use. Does anyone know where that is or have any experience with it? dm From chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org Mon Jun 20 13:57:34 2005 From: chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org (chicagogroup-members-list@rubyforge.org) Date: Mon Jun 20 13:53:05 2005 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] migration class In-Reply-To: <0bb01b4385c99731dfc44b78f8e80fa1@sus4.net> References: <0bb01b4385c99731dfc44b78f8e80fa1@sus4.net> Message-ID: <63B1C2DF-78A5-47C8-845B-CB7B59EAB9AA@gmail.com> On Jun 20, 2005, at 12:09 PM, chicagogroup-members-list@rubyforge.org wrote: > during the meetup with DHH, he mentioned an undocumented migration > class that he was beginning to use. Does anyone know where that is > or have any experience with it? activerecord/lib/active_record/migration.rb I was the one who brought up that subject, and I have a bit of experience/exposure, but I'm no expert. What would you like to know/ do? Migrations are for tracking database schema changes and switching between them. It's possible to start from an empty schema and create migrations to move into the schema; my comments to DHH during the meeting were that I was attempting to use that to TDD a Rails app from scratch. -- Ryan Platte -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20050620/aab125c5/attachment.htm From chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org Mon Jun 20 14:40:54 2005 From: chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org (chicagogroup-members-list@rubyforge.org) Date: Mon Jun 20 14:36:23 2005 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] migration class In-Reply-To: <63B1C2DF-78A5-47C8-845B-CB7B59EAB9AA@gmail.com> References: <0bb01b4385c99731dfc44b78f8e80fa1@sus4.net> <63B1C2DF-78A5-47C8-845B-CB7B59EAB9AA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1cf55f1adf31244d7dd5d230302973a0@sus4.net> On Jun 20, 2005, at 12:57 PM, chicagogroup-members-list@rubyforge.org wrote: > On Jun 20, 2005, at 12:09 PM, chicagogroup-members-list@rubyforge.org > wrote: > >> during the meetup with DHH, he mentioned an undocumented migration >> class that he was beginning to use. Does anyone know where that is or >> have any experience with it? > activerecord/lib/active_record/migration.rb > > I was the one who brought up that subject, and I have a bit of > experience/exposure, but I'm no expert. What would you like to > know/do? Migrations are for tracking database schema changes and > switching between them. It's possible to start from an empty schema > and create migrations to move into the schema; my comments to DHH > during the meeting were that I was attempting to use that to TDD a > Rails app from scratch. > > --? > Ryan Platte > I'm struggling with maintaining DB schemas across multiple developers and was wanting to look at this code to see if it could help. What I'm doing is keeping an sql file with drop->create->insert statements in CVS. It's working ok as long as there are not simultaneous changes to the data in the different installs. What ends up happening is that the client will be playing with adding things in one install while I'm making schema changes locally. If I check in and run the new schema, I lose the client's data. Remembering to dump, checkin, update, then make my schema changes is difficult. any thoughts? From chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org Mon Jun 20 16:33:52 2005 From: chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org (chicagogroup-members-list@rubyforge.org) Date: Mon Jun 20 16:29:22 2005 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] migration class In-Reply-To: <1cf55f1adf31244d7dd5d230302973a0@sus4.net> References: <0bb01b4385c99731dfc44b78f8e80fa1@sus4.net> <63B1C2DF-78A5-47C8-845B-CB7B59EAB9AA@gmail.com> <1cf55f1adf31244d7dd5d230302973a0@sus4.net> Message-ID: <945E271D-E44A-4372-A472-A2710CAA5565@gmail.com> >> What would you like to know/do? Migrations are for tracking >> database schema changes and switching between them. It's possible >> to start from an empty schema and create migrations to move into >> the schema; my comments to DHH during the meeting were that I was >> attempting to use that to TDD a Rails app from scratch. > > I'm struggling with maintaining DB schemas across multiple > developers and was wanting to look at this code to see if it could > help. > > What I'm doing is keeping an sql file with drop->create->insert > statements in CVS. It's working ok as long as there are not > simultaneous changes to the data in the different installs. What > ends up happening is that the client will be playing with adding > things in one install while I'm making schema changes locally. If > I check in and run the new schema, I lose the client's data. > Remembering to dump, checkin, update, then make my schema changes > is difficult. Yeah, migrations are probably what you want. Each migration can run arbitrary code when incrementing and decrementing the schema version. Look at activerecord/test/migration_mysql.rb for some (contrived) example usage by way of testing. I recall DHH said 37signals uses this already. Also, it may be MySQL-only at this point, although it's written against the database adapter, so should be easy enough to port. In fact, that was kind of my idea behind TDD'ing a schema into existence with migrations -- that would also make the schema work across any migration-supporting DBMS. -- Ryan Platte -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20050620/dda58212/attachment.htm From ryan.platte at gmail.com Tue Jun 21 10:42:46 2005 From: ryan.platte at gmail.com (Ryan Platte) Date: Tue Jun 21 10:38:15 2005 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] test Message-ID: <6142EC88-1E46-4FC3-8667-829C1D02AAC1@gmail.com> Testing to see if the list keeps our From: line now... -- Ryan Platte -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20050621/76948d7a/attachment-0001.htm From rubygroup at johnwlong.com Tue Jun 21 10:57:27 2005 From: rubygroup at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Tue Jun 21 10:52:56 2005 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] test In-Reply-To: <6142EC88-1E46-4FC3-8667-829C1D02AAC1@gmail.com> References: <6142EC88-1E46-4FC3-8667-829C1D02AAC1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <42B82AD7.3000802@johnwlong.com> Looks like it does. Thanks Ryan! -- John Ryan Platte wrote: > Testing to see if the list keeps our From: line now... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List mailing list > ChicagoGroup-Members-List@rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list