From hubrix at hubrix.com  Mon Apr  3 22:53:40 2006
From: hubrix at hubrix.com (Mark Alexander Friedgan)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:53:40 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presentation and Code
Message-ID: <e1112fd0604031953q4c280502l1fca106060cbaf7b@mail.gmail.com>

Since not everyone was able to attend and I promised, please find mypresentation athttp://www.hubrix.com/tuplespaces.zip (i will make a webversion later)it includes the PPT and the code shown.
Thank you everyone who came and participated.
Mark Friedgan

From ryan at platte.name  Wed Apr  5 07:50:52 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 06:50:52 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presentation and Code
In-Reply-To: <e1112fd0604031953q4c280502l1fca106060cbaf7b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e1112fd0604031953q4c280502l1fca106060cbaf7b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0604050450h1152d1f9rbfa886321c089db0@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you very much for speaking, Mark. My curiosity about TupleSpaces
is piqued.

On 4/3/06, Mark Alexander Friedgan <hubrix at hubrix.com> wrote:
> Since not everyone was able to attend and I promised, please find mypresentation at http://www.hubrix.com/tuplespaces.zip (i will make a webversion later)it includes the PPT and the code shown.
> Thank you everyone who came and participated.
> Mark Friedgan

--
Ryan Platte


From mlist at dakic.com  Wed Apr  5 13:34:14 2006
From: mlist at dakic.com (mlist at dakic.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:34:14 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presentation and Code
In-Reply-To: <e1112fd0604031953q4c280502l1fca106060cbaf7b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601c658d7$288e86c0$230110ac@DAKICONLINE>

Hi Mark,

thank you for your presentation, I really enjoyed learning about tuple
spaces.

There is one thing I would like to remark regarding previously when we
learned about continuations and this time about tuple spaces. Obviously you
prepared well the presentation (see how the wordiness will came handy for
those who were not present), but it would really be great if next time code
and workshop are prepared so that we can download a zip file with all
supporting code and with small working example that can get us quickly
running. 

... lenghty explanation with remarks to what was missing in continuations
workshop snipped ...

So in short I would suggest preparing startup code that will work out of the
box for workshop. 

Again I am really gratefull for time you spent preparing this and taking the
time to talk to us about it. 

Thanks,
Zeljko Dakic



From hubrix at hubrix.com  Wed Apr  5 13:39:47 2006
From: hubrix at hubrix.com (Mark Alexander Friedgan)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 12:39:47 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presentation and Code
In-Reply-To: <000601c658d7$288e86c0$230110ac@DAKICONLINE>
References: <e1112fd0604031953q4c280502l1fca106060cbaf7b@mail.gmail.com>
	<000601c658d7$288e86c0$230110ac@DAKICONLINE>
Message-ID: <e1112fd0604051039l7541fe51xb6d6ae9fccadc725@mail.gmail.com>

I think you're rightI wish I had prepared a solution for the coding excersize as well since no oneended up finishing it.
When my schedule allows I will post it on my site.
Mark
On 4/5/06, mlist at dakic.com <mlist at dakic.com> wrote:> Hi Mark,>> thank you for your presentation, I really enjoyed learning about tuple> spaces.>> There is one thing I would like to remark regarding previously when we> learned about continuations and this time about tuple spaces. Obviously you> prepared well the presentation (see how the wordiness will came handy for> those who were not present), but it would really be great if next time code> and workshop are prepared so that we can download a zip file with all> supporting code and with small working example that can get us quickly> running.>> ... lenghty explanation with remarks to what was missing in continuations> workshop snipped ...>> So in short I would suggest preparing startup code that will work out of the> box for workshop.>> Again I am really gratefull for time you spent preparing this and taking the> time to talk to us about it.>> Thanks,> Zeljko Dakic>>> _______________________________________________> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list>

From cdemyanovich at gmail.com  Sat Apr 22 11:25:18 2006
From: cdemyanovich at gmail.com (Craig Demyanovich)
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:25:18 -0400
Subject: [Chirb] topic for May meeting?
Message-ID: <61c885db0604220825y1866935ekc47e4d656649bac@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings,

I received the reminder from meetup.com about the May meeting, but it had
the description for the April one. What's the topic for the May meeting?

Thanks,
Craig
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From ryan at platte.name  Sun Apr 23 10:46:08 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:46:08 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] topic for May meeting?
In-Reply-To: <61c885db0604220825y1866935ekc47e4d656649bac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <61c885db0604220825y1866935ekc47e4d656649bac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0604230746j35585a15g383149455844aac6@mail.gmail.com>

My apologies, I'm not sure how to cause Meetup not to do that.

Expect a new improved-accuracy announcement in the next few days.

We're also working on phasing out Meetup. Peter Chan has put in some
good work for us on the web front.

On 4/22/06, Craig Demyanovich <cdemyanovich at gmail.com> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I received the reminder from meetup.com about the May meeting, but it had
> the description for the April one. What's the topic for the May meeting?
>
> Thanks,
> Craig
>
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
>


--
Ryan Platte


From JScruggs at thoughtworks.com  Tue Apr 25 00:52:13 2006
From: JScruggs at thoughtworks.com (Jake Scruggs)
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:52:13 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] =?iso-8859-1?q?Ruby_User_=3Fs_Group_Monday_5/1/06=3A_CODE?=
	=?iso-8859-1?q?FEST!?=
Message-ID: <OF464EB4B8.0AFE720D-ON8625715B.0018786C-8625715B.001AC0B8@thoughtworks.com>

Lately our topics have been accused of being a little too high level for 
everyone in the crowd.  Our speakers have been great but it looks like 
it's time for a break.  On Monday, May 1, let's get together and do what 
we do best:  code. 

We are going to have some exercises for you to complete if you wish. We?ll 
take a couple of examples from the Ruby Quiz site and post them up with 
unit tests (like Jim W?s continuation koans with 33% less hurting of your 
brain).  Then, you can break into teams and make those tests pass.  Never 
really done any Ruby?  No problem, we will have people there to help you 
along. 

Unit tests really aren't your thing?  Don't like the format?  No problem, 
bring in something you would like to play with and we will try and find 
someone to help you out. 

At the end we can do a series of lightning rounds of quick show and tell. 
How did you approach the problem, and what did you learn? 

Don't worry about skill level.  Just bring your laptop, your brain, and a 
copy of the PickAxe if you have one. 

When:
Monday, May 1, 2006, 6:30 PM 

Where:
ThoughtWorks
651 W. Washington Blvd. Suite 600 
Chicago , IL 60661
(312) 373-1000

The building entrance on Des Plaines will be open until 7. The elevators 
will be on until 7 as well so that people can get to the 6th floor. After 
that, please feel free to call Joe at 614/906-1394 or Jake at 773/905-9102 
and we?ll have someone get you.

Pizza and pop will, as usual, be provided.

- Joe O?Brien and Jake Scruggs
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From ryan at platte.name  Tue Apr 25 13:54:24 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:54:24 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Ruby User ?s Group Monday 5/1/06: CODEFEST!
In-Reply-To: <OF464EB4B8.0AFE720D-ON8625715B.0018786C-8625715B.001AC0B8@thoughtworks.com>
References: <OF464EB4B8.0AFE720D-ON8625715B.0018786C-8625715B.001AC0B8@thoughtworks.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0604251054kee85059o44d6e438c4bdf562@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jake,

Did you know I lead Chirb?

I appreciate your initiative, but I would like to have one point
person for coordinating Chirb until we decide otherwise, or at least
discuss changing needs.

Also, in what conversation did folks "accuse" our topics of being "a
little too high level"? That runs counter to the feedback I've heard,
and I'm interested in what people are saying to the contrary.

On 4/24/06, Jake Scruggs <JScruggs at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
>
> Lately our topics have been accused of being a little too high level for
> everyone in the crowd.  Our speakers have been great but it looks like it's
> time for a break.  On Monday, May 1, let's get together and do what we do
> best:  code.
>
> We are going to have some exercises for you to complete if you wish.  We'll
> take a couple of examples from the Ruby Quiz site and post them up with unit
> tests (like Jim W's continuation koans with 33% less hurting of your brain).
>  Then, you can break into teams and make those tests pass.  Never really
> done any Ruby?  No problem, we will have people there to help you along.
>
> Unit tests really aren't your thing?  Don't like the format?  No problem,
> bring in something you would like to play with and we will try and find
> someone to help you out.
>
> At the end we can do a series of lightning rounds of quick show and tell.
> How did you approach the problem, and what did you learn?
>
> Don't worry about skill level.  Just bring your laptop, your brain, and a
> copy of the PickAxe if you have one.
>
> When:
> Monday, May 1, 2006, 6:30 PM
>
> Where:
> ThoughtWorks
> 651 W. Washington Blvd. Suite 600
> Chicago , IL 60661
> (312) 373-1000
>
> The building entrance on Des Plaines will be open until 7. The elevators
> will be on until 7 as well so that people can get to the 6th floor. After
> that, please feel free to call Joe at 614/906-1394 or Jake at 773/905-9102
> and we'll have someone get you.
>
> Pizza and pop will, as usual, be provided.
>
> - Joe O'Brien and Jake Scruggs
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
>


--
Ryan Platte


From ryan at platte.name  Tue Apr 25 15:10:49 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:10:49 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Ruby User ?s Group Monday 5/1/06: CODEFEST!
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0604251054kee85059o44d6e438c4bdf562@mail.gmail.com>
References: <OF464EB4B8.0AFE720D-ON8625715B.0018786C-8625715B.001AC0B8@thoughtworks.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0604251054kee85059o44d6e438c4bdf562@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0604251210o238ccae1wcaeb177e18e6cf2@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, I thought I was replying to Jake individually. My apologies to
Jake for writing this publicly. Please, gentle Chirbers, understand
that my message was intended as a personal email to him, not as a
public statement. I stand by what I said, just not the size of the
audience I said it to.  :-)

Again, apologies to Jake, and I sincerely do appreciate his and Joe's
initiative getting this month's activity put together. I'm looking
forward to seeing you all there.

On 4/25/06, Ryan Platte <ryan at platte.name> wrote:
> Hi Jake,
>
> Did you know I lead Chirb?
>
> I appreciate your initiative, but I would like to have one point
> person for coordinating Chirb until we decide otherwise, or at least
> discuss changing needs.
>
> Also, in what conversation did folks "accuse" our topics of being "a
> little too high level"? That runs counter to the feedback I've heard,
> and I'm interested in what people are saying to the contrary.
>
> On 4/24/06, Jake Scruggs <JScruggs at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
> >
> > Lately our topics have been accused of being a little too high level for
> > everyone in the crowd.  Our speakers have been great but it looks like it's
> > time for a break.  On Monday, May 1, let's get together and do what we do
> > best:  code.
> >
> > We are going to have some exercises for you to complete if you wish.  We'll
> > take a couple of examples from the Ruby Quiz site and post them up with unit
> > tests (like Jim W's continuation koans with 33% less hurting of your brain).
> >  Then, you can break into teams and make those tests pass.  Never really
> > done any Ruby?  No problem, we will have people there to help you along.
> >
> > Unit tests really aren't your thing?  Don't like the format?  No problem,
> > bring in something you would like to play with and we will try and find
> > someone to help you out.
> >
> > At the end we can do a series of lightning rounds of quick show and tell.
> > How did you approach the problem, and what did you learn?
> >
> > Don't worry about skill level.  Just bring your laptop, your brain, and a
> > copy of the PickAxe if you have one.
> >
> > When:
> > Monday, May 1, 2006, 6:30 PM
> >
> > Where:
> > ThoughtWorks
> > 651 W. Washington Blvd. Suite 600
> > Chicago , IL 60661
> > (312) 373-1000
> >
> > The building entrance on Des Plaines will be open until 7. The elevators
> > will be on until 7 as well so that people can get to the 6th floor. After
> > that, please feel free to call Joe at 614/906-1394 or Jake at 773/905-9102
> > and we'll have someone get you.
> >
> > Pizza and pop will, as usual, be provided.
> >
> > - Joe O'Brien and Jake Scruggs
> > _______________________________________________
> > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Ryan Platte
>


--
Ryan Platte


From chris.mcavoy at gmail.com  Tue Apr 25 15:18:37 2006
From: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com (Chris McAvoy)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:18:37 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Ruby User ?s Group Monday 5/1/06: CODEFEST!
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0604251210o238ccae1wcaeb177e18e6cf2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <OF464EB4B8.0AFE720D-ON8625715B.0018786C-8625715B.001AC0B8@thoughtworks.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0604251054kee85059o44d6e438c4bdf562@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0604251210o238ccae1wcaeb177e18e6cf2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3096c19d0604251218v85215ceq56d9812443111b58@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/25/06, Ryan Platte <ryan at platte.name> wrote:
> Wow, I thought I was replying to Jake individually.

One time on one of the lists, someone wrote back "hey, it was really
great seeing you.  I can't believe how much I've missed you..." you
sort of see where it's going, right?  Another time, on a not-public,
not-tech list, someone wrote "man...I'm glad <%= @name_of_person %>
isn't in the group anymore, they were f'ing annoying."  See, but the
person hadn't left the list yet.

Oh mailing lists...they're embarassment magnets.

That said, I'm loading up my guns for the impending chirb civil war. 
It's going to be pretty awesome.  I'm a fan of anarchy in open source
groups.  To quote a recent email by a noted open source enthusiast,
the most perfect form of user group government is an "oligarcy of
equally reluctant leaders."

Don't fret.  We're not a Java group...we're a Ruby group!  Agile! 
Dynamic-type'd!

Chris


From ryan at platte.name  Tue Apr 25 15:39:26 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:39:26 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Ruby User ?s Group Monday 5/1/06: CODEFEST!
In-Reply-To: <3096c19d0604251218v85215ceq56d9812443111b58@mail.gmail.com>
References: <OF464EB4B8.0AFE720D-ON8625715B.0018786C-8625715B.001AC0B8@thoughtworks.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0604251054kee85059o44d6e438c4bdf562@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0604251210o238ccae1wcaeb177e18e6cf2@mail.gmail.com>
	<3096c19d0604251218v85215ceq56d9812443111b58@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0604251239x19c4c3a9g85be68dc0ef4857e@mail.gmail.com>

LOL. Yes, I suppose if leader_abilities.all? {|ability|
jake.respond_to? ability} and the pizza still gets ordered...   :-)

I think there are only two concerns I have:

1) we need to be not just a ThoughtWorks group. ThoughtWorks is a
fantastic host, but our group needs to remain independent of any one
party's interests.

2) communication -- who's making the decisions? If it's anarchic, or
if we're adding folks to the pool of decision-makers, those would be
useful bits of information to know for everybody working on the group.

That's really all from me. If our group would benefit from doing
something different, rock on. My main interest in leading the group at
this point is that we continue growing into a more interactive format
-- get to know each other and learn a lot vs. sitting like bumps on a
log and leaving confused, frustrated, or bored.

On 4/25/06, Chris McAvoy <chris.mcavoy at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/25/06, Ryan Platte <ryan at platte.name> wrote:
> > Wow, I thought I was replying to Jake individually.
>
> One time on one of the lists, someone wrote back "hey, it was really
> great seeing you.  I can't believe how much I've missed you..." you
> sort of see where it's going, right?  Another time, on a not-public,
> not-tech list, someone wrote "man...I'm glad <%= @name_of_person %>
> isn't in the group anymore, they were f'ing annoying."  See, but the
> person hadn't left the list yet.
>
> Oh mailing lists...they're embarassment magnets.
>
> That said, I'm loading up my guns for the impending chirb civil war.
> It's going to be pretty awesome.  I'm a fan of anarchy in open source
> groups.  To quote a recent email by a noted open source enthusiast,
> the most perfect form of user group government is an "oligarcy of
> equally reluctant leaders."
>
> Don't fret.  We're not a Java group...we're a Ruby group!  Agile!
> Dynamic-type'd!
>
> Chris
>
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>


--
Ryan Platte


From JScruggs at thoughtworks.com  Tue Apr 25 15:47:10 2006
From: JScruggs at thoughtworks.com (Jake Scruggs)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:47:10 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Ruby User ?s Group Monday 5/1/06: CODEFEST!
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0604251210o238ccae1wcaeb177e18e6cf2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OF426DB83C.EC72B1B0-ON8625715B.006B2EA9-8625715B.006CB2D6@thoughtworks.com>

I didn't follow chain of command and I'm sorry.

In my defense Joe forwarded an email to me from Ryan which I thought said 
that we could go ahead with our (Joe and I's) plans.  So Joe and I did a 
fast collaboration on an email Monday night and I sent it figuring that 
since the meeting was only a week away that I should hurry.  I should have 
sent a draft of that email to Ryan, but I didn't.  My mistake. 

We can still do the presentation if people think its a good idea.
-Jake

 

chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org wrote on 04/25/2006 
02:10:49 PM:

> Wow, I thought I was replying to Jake individually. My apologies to
> Jake for writing this publicly. Please, gentle Chirbers, understand
> that my message was intended as a personal email to him, not as a
> public statement. I stand by what I said, just not the size of the
> audience I said it to.  :-)
> 
> Again, apologies to Jake, and I sincerely do appreciate his and Joe's
> initiative getting this month's activity put together. I'm looking
> forward to seeing you all there.
> 
> On 4/25/06, Ryan Platte <ryan at platte.name> wrote:
> > Hi Jake,
> >
> > Did you know I lead Chirb?
> >
> > I appreciate your initiative, but I would like to have one point
> > person for coordinating Chirb until we decide otherwise, or at least
> > discuss changing needs.
> >
> > Also, in what conversation did folks "accuse" our topics of being "a
> > little too high level"? That runs counter to the feedback I've heard,
> > and I'm interested in what people are saying to the contrary.
> >
> > On 4/24/06, Jake Scruggs <JScruggs at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Lately our topics have been accused of being a little too high level 
for
> > > everyone in the crowd.  Our speakers have been great but it looks 
like it's
> > > time for a break.  On Monday, May 1, let's get together and do what 
we do
> > > best:  code.
> > >
> > > We are going to have some exercises for you to complete if you wish. 
 We'll
> > > take a couple of examples from the Ruby Quiz site and post them 
upwith unit
> > > tests (like Jim W's continuation koans with 33% less hurting of your 
brain).
> > >  Then, you can break into teams and make those tests pass.  Never 
really
> > > done any Ruby?  No problem, we will have people there to help you 
along.
> > >
> > > Unit tests really aren't your thing?  Don't like the format?  No 
problem,
> > > bring in something you would like to play with and we will try and 
find
> > > someone to help you out.
> > >
> > > At the end we can do a series of lightning rounds of quick show and 
tell.
> > > How did you approach the problem, and what did you learn?
> > >
> > > Don't worry about skill level.  Just bring your laptop, your brain, 
and a
> > > copy of the PickAxe if you have one.
> > >
> > > When:
> > > Monday, May 1, 2006, 6:30 PM
> > >
> > > Where:
> > > ThoughtWorks
> > > 651 W. Washington Blvd. Suite 600
> > > Chicago , IL 60661
> > > (312) 373-1000
> > >
> > > The building entrance on Des Plaines will be open until 7. The 
elevators
> > > will be on until 7 as well so that people can get to the 6th floor. 
After
> > > that, please feel free to call Joe at 614/906-1394 or Jake at 
773/905-9102
> > > and we'll have someone get you.
> > >
> > > Pizza and pop will, as usual, be provided.
> > >
> > > - Joe O'Brien and Jake Scruggs
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ryan Platte
> >
> 
> 
> --
> Ryan Platte
> 
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
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From ryan at platte.name  Tue Apr 25 16:04:29 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:04:29 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Ruby User ?s Group Monday 5/1/06: CODEFEST!
In-Reply-To: <OF426DB83C.EC72B1B0-ON8625715B.006B2EA9-8625715B.006CB2D6@thoughtworks.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0604251210o238ccae1wcaeb177e18e6cf2@mail.gmail.com>
	<OF426DB83C.EC72B1B0-ON8625715B.006B2EA9-8625715B.006CB2D6@thoughtworks.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0604251304w403254b5kc6c1490ae51d188e@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/25/06, Jake Scruggs <JScruggs at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
>
> I didn't follow chain of command and I'm sorry.

Nowhere near as big a deal as I've made it! Please forgive me for
calling you out in public for a small oversight. I certainly forgive
you.

> In my defense Joe forwarded an email to me from Ryan which I thought said
> that we could go ahead with our (Joe and I's) plans.  So Joe and I did a
> fast collaboration on an email Monday night and I sent it figuring that
> since the meeting was only a week away that I should hurry.  I should have
> sent a draft of that email to Ryan, but I didn't.  My mistake.

And for the benefit of all those following along at home, I agree that
email I sent was definitely worded in such a way that a blanket
sign-off could have been inferred.

> We can still do the presentation if people think its a good idea.

If by "the presentation" you mean what was announced in your earlier
email, I'm totally into it and didn't mean to communicate anything to
the contrary. I was only concerned about the communication gap.

Thanks again for getting this set, Jake.

--
Ryan Platte


From ryan at platte.name  Tue Apr 25 16:04:29 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:04:29 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Ruby User ?s Group Monday 5/1/06: CODEFEST!
In-Reply-To: <OF426DB83C.EC72B1B0-ON8625715B.006B2EA9-8625715B.006CB2D6@thoughtworks.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0604251210o238ccae1wcaeb177e18e6cf2@mail.gmail.com>
	<OF426DB83C.EC72B1B0-ON8625715B.006B2EA9-8625715B.006CB2D6@thoughtworks.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0604251304w403254b5kc6c1490ae51d188e@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/25/06, Jake Scruggs <JScruggs at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
>
> I didn't follow chain of command and I'm sorry.

Nowhere near as big a deal as I've made it! Please forgive me for
calling you out in public for a small oversight. I certainly forgive
you.

> In my defense Joe forwarded an email to me from Ryan which I thought said
> that we could go ahead with our (Joe and I's) plans.  So Joe and I did a
> fast collaboration on an email Monday night and I sent it figuring that
> since the meeting was only a week away that I should hurry.  I should have
> sent a draft of that email to Ryan, but I didn't.  My mistake.

And for the benefit of all those following along at home, I agree that
email I sent was definitely worded in such a way that a blanket
sign-off could have been inferred.

> We can still do the presentation if people think its a good idea.

If by "the presentation" you mean what was announced in your earlier
email, I'm totally into it and didn't mean to communicate anything to
the contrary. I was only concerned about the communication gap.

Thanks again for getting this set, Jake.

--
Ryan Platte


From qzzzq1 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 25 16:34:12 2006
From: qzzzq1 at gmail.com (colin h)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:34:12 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Ruby User ?s Group Monday 5/1/06: CODEFEST!
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0604251304w403254b5kc6c1490ae51d188e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0604251210o238ccae1wcaeb177e18e6cf2@mail.gmail.com>
	<OF426DB83C.EC72B1B0-ON8625715B.006B2EA9-8625715B.006CB2D6@thoughtworks.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0604251304w403254b5kc6c1490ae51d188e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <507da57a0604251334s540bba99x620a1afb0ff5cb2a@mail.gmail.com>

so since it's not a mutiny, i should leave my stockade at home then?



On 4/25/06, Ryan Platte <ryan at platte.name> wrote:
> On 4/25/06, Jake Scruggs <JScruggs at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
> >
> > I didn't follow chain of command and I'm sorry.
>
> Nowhere near as big a deal as I've made it! Please forgive me for
> calling you out in public for a small oversight. I certainly forgive
> you.
>
> > In my defense Joe forwarded an email to me from Ryan which I thought said
> > that we could go ahead with our (Joe and I's) plans.  So Joe and I did a
> > fast collaboration on an email Monday night and I sent it figuring that
> > since the meeting was only a week away that I should hurry.  I should have
> > sent a draft of that email to Ryan, but I didn't.  My mistake.
>
> And for the benefit of all those following along at home, I agree that
> email I sent was definitely worded in such a way that a blanket
> sign-off could have been inferred.
>
> > We can still do the presentation if people think its a good idea.
>
> If by "the presentation" you mean what was announced in your earlier
> email, I'm totally into it and didn't mean to communicate anything to
> the contrary. I was only concerned about the communication gap.
>
> Thanks again for getting this set, Jake.
>
> --
> Ryan Platte
>
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>


From jim at weirichhouse.org  Tue Apr 25 19:45:44 2006
From: jim at weirichhouse.org (Jim Weirich)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:45:44 -0400
Subject: [Chirb] Ruby User ?s Group Monday 5/1/06: CODEFEST!
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0604251210o238ccae1wcaeb177e18e6cf2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <OF464EB4B8.0AFE720D-ON8625715B.0018786C-8625715B.001AC0B8@thoughtworks.com>	<2f1a1dcb0604251054kee85059o44d6e438c4bdf562@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0604251210o238ccae1wcaeb177e18e6cf2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <444EB4A8.6020507@weirichhouse.org>

Ryan Platte wrote:
> Wow, I thought I was replying to Jake individually. 

Since the civil war looks like its going to be a flop, perhaps we can 
start a discussion on the merit/demerits of Reply-to: munging

;)

-- 
-- Jim Weirich    jim at weirichhouse.org     http://onestepback.org
-----------------------------------------------------------------
"Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct,
not tried it." -- Donald Knuth (in a memo to Peter van Emde Boas)

From JOBrien at thoughtworks.com  Tue Apr 25 21:22:46 2006
From: JOBrien at thoughtworks.com (Joe O'Brien)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:22:46 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Ruby User ?s Group Monday 5/1/06: CODEFEST!
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0604251054kee85059o44d6e438c4bdf562@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OF969BD28B.0993D171-ON8625715C.00077DE7-8525715C.000793A2@thoughtworks.com>

This was something Jake and I worked on together.  The feedback is stuff 
I've been hearing.  Mainly on the chirb list.  We can discuss on Monday.

-Joe

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//    ThoughtWorks, Inc.
//    http://blog.objo.com
//    Y! id = joeobjo,  gmail = obrien.joe
//    cell: 614\906-1394
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"Ryan Platte" <ryan at platte.name> 
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04/25/2006 01:54 PM
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Hi Jake,

Did you know I lead Chirb?

I appreciate your initiative, but I would like to have one point
person for coordinating Chirb until we decide otherwise, or at least
discuss changing needs.

Also, in what conversation did folks "accuse" our topics of being "a
little too high level"? That runs counter to the feedback I've heard,
and I'm interested in what people are saying to the contrary.

On 4/24/06, Jake Scruggs <JScruggs at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
>
> Lately our topics have been accused of being a little too high level for
> everyone in the crowd.  Our speakers have been great but it looks like 
it's
> time for a break.  On Monday, May 1, let's get together and do what we 
do
> best:  code.
>
> We are going to have some exercises for you to complete if you wish. 
We'll
> take a couple of examples from the Ruby Quiz site and post them up with 
unit
> tests (like Jim W's continuation koans with 33% less hurting of your 
brain).
>  Then, you can break into teams and make those tests pass.  Never really
> done any Ruby?  No problem, we will have people there to help you along.
>
> Unit tests really aren't your thing?  Don't like the format?  No 
problem,
> bring in something you would like to play with and we will try and find
> someone to help you out.
>
> At the end we can do a series of lightning rounds of quick show and 
tell.
> How did you approach the problem, and what did you learn?
>
> Don't worry about skill level.  Just bring your laptop, your brain, and 
a
> copy of the PickAxe if you have one.
>
> When:
> Monday, May 1, 2006, 6:30 PM
>
> Where:
> ThoughtWorks
> 651 W. Washington Blvd. Suite 600
> Chicago , IL 60661
> (312) 373-1000
>
> The building entrance on Des Plaines will be open until 7. The elevators
> will be on until 7 as well so that people can get to the 6th floor. 
After
> that, please feel free to call Joe at 614/906-1394 or Jake at 
773/905-9102
> and we'll have someone get you.
>
> Pizza and pop will, as usual, be provided.
>
> - Joe O'Brien and Jake Scruggs
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
>


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From ryan at platte.name  Wed Apr 26 00:20:17 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:20:17 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Ruby User ?s Group Monday 5/1/06: CODEFEST!
In-Reply-To: <444EB4A8.6020507@weirichhouse.org>
References: <OF464EB4B8.0AFE720D-ON8625715B.0018786C-8625715B.001AC0B8@thoughtworks.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0604251054kee85059o44d6e438c4bdf562@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0604251210o238ccae1wcaeb177e18e6cf2@mail.gmail.com>
	<444EB4A8.6020507@weirichhouse.org>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0604252120s65c036fdr23f3060d7583d211@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/25/06, Jim Weirich <jim at weirichhouse.org> wrote:
> Ryan Platte wrote:
> > Wow, I thought I was replying to Jake individually.
>
> Since the civil war looks like its going to be a flop, perhaps we can
> start a discussion on the merit/demerits of Reply-to: munging

Yes, I've suddenly found the arguments against it rather more compelling.

--
Ryan Platte


From JScruggs at thoughtworks.com  Wed Apr 26 11:47:11 2006
From: JScruggs at thoughtworks.com (Jake Scruggs)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:47:11 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] RSVP for Monday at chirb.org
Message-ID: <OFCE23BC04.BE13D6B5-ON8625715C.00560731-8625715C.0056B7DA@thoughtworks.com>

Hey guys,
Head over to
http://chirb.org/uger/event/show/1

And rsvp if you're coming to Monday night's Ruby user's group meeting so I 
can get a head count for pizza.  And 'cause the site looks cool.
Thanks to Peter Chan and all who helped set this up.

-Jake
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From dave.hoover at gmail.com  Wed Apr 26 13:02:51 2006
From: dave.hoover at gmail.com (Dave Hoover)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:02:51 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] RSVP for Monday at chirb.org
In-Reply-To: <OFCE23BC04.BE13D6B5-ON8625715C.00560731-8625715C.0056B7DA@thoughtworks.com>
References: <OFCE23BC04.BE13D6B5-ON8625715C.00560731-8625715C.0056B7DA@thoughtworks.com>
Message-ID: <11c8704e0604261002k21397a91kb5ed54d8cea77cd4@mail.gmail.com>

> Head over to
> http://chirb.org/uger/event/show/1
>
> And rsvp if you're coming to Monday night's Ruby user's group meeting so I
> can get a head count for pizza.  And 'cause the site looks cool.

Not too cool right now.  All I see is this:  "Application error  Rails
application failed to start properly".


From ryan at platte.name  Wed Apr 26 13:08:19 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:08:19 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] RSVP for Monday at chirb.org
In-Reply-To: <11c8704e0604261002k21397a91kb5ed54d8cea77cd4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <OFCE23BC04.BE13D6B5-ON8625715C.00560731-8625715C.0056B7DA@thoughtworks.com>
	<11c8704e0604261002k21397a91kb5ed54d8cea77cd4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0604261008w2af89a47t8e5ab3f0e1d95a78@mail.gmail.com>

Please try reloading if you get that error. Peter's been working on
tracking down that issue with our fine hosts at TextDrive, but it's
intermittent and usually works on the next reload.

On 4/26/06, Dave Hoover <dave.hoover at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Head over to
> > http://chirb.org/uger/event/show/1
> >
> > And rsvp if you're coming to Monday night's Ruby user's group meeting so I
> > can get a head count for pizza.  And 'cause the site looks cool.
>
> Not too cool right now.  All I see is this:  "Application error  Rails
> application failed to start properly".
>
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>


--
Ryan Platte


From peter at oaktop.com  Wed Apr 26 14:20:14 2006
From: peter at oaktop.com (Peter K Chan)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:20:14 -0400
Subject: [Chirb] RSVP for Monday at chirb.org
Message-ID: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF90917D32D6@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>

Hi,
	Thanks to everyone for RSVP'ing on Uger on chirb. Sorry if you
receive intermittent error; I am working on fixing that. In the
meantime, if you encounter a server error, please bear with me and hit
refresh.

Thanks,

Peter

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Ryan Platte
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:08 PM
To: Chirb discussion list
Subject: Re: [Chirb] RSVP for Monday at chirb.org

Please try reloading if you get that error. Peter's been working on
tracking down that issue with our fine hosts at TextDrive, but it's
intermittent and usually works on the next reload.

On 4/26/06, Dave Hoover <dave.hoover at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Head over to
> > http://chirb.org/uger/event/show/1
> >
> > And rsvp if you're coming to Monday night's Ruby user's group
meeting so I
> > can get a head count for pizza.  And 'cause the site looks cool.
>
> Not too cool right now.  All I see is this:  "Application error  Rails
> application failed to start properly".
>
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>


--
Ryan Platte

_______________________________________________
ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list


From dave.hoover at gmail.com  Wed Apr 26 15:42:06 2006
From: dave.hoover at gmail.com (Dave Hoover)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:42:06 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] RSVP for Monday at chirb.org
In-Reply-To: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF90917D32D6@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
References: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF90917D32D6@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
Message-ID: <11c8704e0604261242g683f7c77kd1a0dd9e0dd5b8f7@mail.gmail.com>

>         Thanks to everyone for RSVP'ing on Uger on chirb. Sorry if you
> receive intermittent error; I am working on fixing that. In the
> meantime, if you encounter a server error, please bear with me and hit
> refresh.

Cool, works now.  Thanks Peter!


From hubrix at hubrix.com  Wed Apr 26 19:35:04 2006
From: hubrix at hubrix.com (Mark Alexander Friedgan)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:35:04 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] ANN: Matchable mixin
Message-ID: <e1112fd0604261635t4ea9d013v5a8a4f8435cd4244@mail.gmail.com>

Folks,

I am in process of posting this on ruby forge as a project
but I figured I'd post it to the group as a preview. Its a module I hacked
out
that allows you to define functions pattern matched to arguments.
It's fairly powerful in that you can define functions with a lot of
different conditions simply
built into the top definition, you can even do argument overloading,
matching by regexp, whatever you've defined ===
to do in fact

I am still deciding if the semantics i've chosen are the best so suggestions
are welcome.

for example:

class Bar
  include Matchable
  def_match(:plus, nil, nil){|a,b| a+b}
  def_match(:plus, String, nil){|a,b| "#{a}:=>#{b}"}
  def_match(:plus, /hello/, nil){|a, b| "hello world"}
end
=> nil
b = Bar.new
=> #<Bar:0xb758e7ac>
b.plus(5,5)
=> 10
b.plus("five",5)
=> "five:=>5"
b.plus("hello", 5)
=> "hello world"

Mark

-------------Begin Code-------------------
# Matchable
#
# Copyright (C) 2006 CashNetUSA: Mark Friedgan <mark-gpl at cashnetusa.com>
#
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
# modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
# as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
# of the License, or any later version.
#
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
# GNU General Public License for more details.
#
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
# along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
# Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA  02111-1307,
USA.

require 'rinda/ring'
require 'rinda/tuplespace'
require 'rinda/rinda'

#
#
#load 'matchable.rb'
#class Foo
#include Matchable
#
#def_match :killer, /hell/, nil do
#  |a, b|
#    puts a,b
#  end
#
#def_match :killer, /hell/, nil, nil do
#  |a, b, c|
#    puts c,a,b
#  end
#end
#
#foo = Foo.new
#
#foo.killer "hello", "world"
# hello
# world
#
#foo.killer "hello", "world", "welcome"
#
#
#This uses tuple matching (i.e. ===)
module Matchable

  def self.append_features(base) #:nodoc:
    super
    base.extend(ClassMethods)
  end


  module ClassMethods
    def def_match(method, *args, &block)
      raise 'Bad match' unless args.length > 0
      raise 'Block required' unless block_given?
      @@match_hash ||= Rinda::TupleBag.new
      @@block_hash ||= {}
      tuple = *([method] + args)
      #put an array into the bag that contains the template and the block
      @@match_hash.push(Rinda::TemplateEntry.new(tuple))
      @@block_hash[tuple] = block

      class_eval  <<-EOV
      def #{method}(*args)
        self.class.call_match(:#{method}, *args)
      end
      EOV
    end

    def call_match(method, *args)
      exec_tuple = find_block([method] + args)
      method_missing(method, *args) unless exec_tuple
      block = @@block_hash[exec_tuple]
      method_missing(method, *args) unless block
      block.call *args
    end

    private
    def find_block(ary)
      match = @@match_hash.find_all_template(Rinda::TupleEntry.new(ary)).sort{|x,
y|
        y.value.compact.size <=> x.value.compact.size}.first
      match && match.value
    end

  end


end
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From qzzzq1 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 28 13:40:33 2006
From: qzzzq1 at gmail.com (colin h)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 12:40:33 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] testers welcomed - scrapease.com
Message-ID: <507da57a0604281040k52212edcgf8af8e50777b75dc@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings Fellow Chirbers,
I've been working on a project with another developer and we have
reached a place where we would appreciate your input.  The site is an
online scrap booking site where people can upload their photos and
then arrange, edit, resize, rotate, and crop their pictures or add
captions.  Actually there is a lot more you can do, so check it out
yourself.   Here are just a couple pointers to get you started.  To
edit a photo or background, just double click on them for the editor
window to appear.  Double clicking on the resizer icon allows you to
switch between resizing by the same ratio, and not.  Some things are
still a little rough around the edges, so please keep that in mind.

It's easy to create an account and get started by going to:
http://dev.kizmeta.com:7000

-colin