From NStowe at TheTTGroup.com Wed Jan 4 10:33:00 2006 From: NStowe at TheTTGroup.com (Stowe, Nola) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 09:33:00 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Article about Selenium Message-ID: For those who missed out on the last Ruby HackFest, you can read a review of Selenium I wrote for CodeSnipers here: http://codesnipers.com/?q=node/207&&title=Testing-with-Selenium-TestRunner <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> The information in this email and any attachments may contain confidential information that is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). This message or any part thereof must not be disclosed, copied, distributed or retained by any person without authorization from the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately, and delete this message. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From JOBrien at thoughtworks.com Wed Jan 4 15:00:26 2006 From: JOBrien at thoughtworks.com (Joe O'Brien) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:00:26 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Soliciting donations to bring in a speaker Message-ID: Ok folks, I would like some help. We had discussed bringing Jim Weirich up from Cincinnati. I need some help with costs. I think if everyone chips in a little something we can bring him up here. Jim (onestepback.org) is one of the original pillars in the Ruby community going way back. He's one of the creators of Ruby Gems and the creator of Rake. He has an exceptional speaking style and an intimate knowledge of the language we have all grown to love. Estimates: Airfare: ~ 150-200 (depending on if we make him drive) Hotel: ~ 100-130 Food: ~ 40 So in total we are trying to raise about 300-370. If we could get companies to sponsor parts of it (say the airfare, etc...) we will get mentions in all of the announcements for the meeting as well as a chance to talk about your company at the event. Let me know either in private or here on the list. Thanks, -Joe //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - // Joe O'Brien, artisan // ThoughtWorks, Inc. // http://blog.objo.com // Y! id = joeobjo, gmail = obrien.joe // cell: 614\906-1394 //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060104/1733164d/attachment.htm From JOBrien at thoughtworks.com Wed Jan 4 15:11:44 2006 From: JOBrien at thoughtworks.com (Joe O'Brien) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:11:44 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Soliciting donations to bring in a speaker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oops. I forgot to mention the collection. If possible I would like to just give the money to Jim to come up. I'll be collecting at this meeting and the next one. If for some reason we can't make it work, I'll give everyone the money back at the March meeting. -Joe //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - // Joe O'Brien, artisan // ThoughtWorks, Inc. // http://blog.objo.com // Y! id = joeobjo, gmail = obrien.joe // cell: 614\906-1394 //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org wrote on 01/04/2006 02:00:26 PM: > > Ok folks, I would like some help. We had discussed bringing Jim > Weirich up from Cincinnati. I need some help with costs. I think if > everyone chips in a little something we can bring him up here. > > Jim (onestepback.org) is one of the original pillars in the Ruby > community going way back. He's one of the creators of Ruby Gems and > the creator of Rake. He has an exceptional speaking style and an > intimate knowledge of the language we have all grown to love. > > Estimates: > Airfare: ~ 150-200 (depending on if we make him drive) > Hotel: ~ 100-130 > Food: ~ 40 > > So in total we are trying to raise about 300-370. If we could get > companies to sponsor parts of it (say the airfare, etc...) we will get > mentions in all of the announcements for the meeting as well as a > chance to talk about your company at the event. > > Let me know either in private or here on the list. > > Thanks, > -Joe > > //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - > // Joe O'Brien, artisan > // ThoughtWorks, Inc. > // http://blog.objo.com > // Y! id = joeobjo, gmail = obrien.joe > // cell: 614\906-1394 > //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List mailing list > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060104/59588ccc/attachment.htm From ng at johnwlong.com Thu Jan 5 11:25:54 2006 From: ng at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:25:54 -0500 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Snakes and Rubies Video and Audio Online! Message-ID: <43BD4892.5040509@johnwlong.com> It is my pleasure to announce that the video and audio from the Snakes and Rubies event is now Online. So if you missed the event the first time, or if you would like to review what was said, head on over to the Snakes and Rubies site and download it now: http://snakesandrubies.com/ Since the whole event was around 3 hours, we've made it available in several pieces for your downloading pleasure. Enjoy! Kudos to Jacob Kaplan-Moss and the rest of the team who handled the recording and editing. -- John Long http://wiseheartdesign.com/ From beau at superiorss.com Fri Jan 6 00:35:03 2006 From: beau at superiorss.com (Beau Gould) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 23:35:03 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] [JOB] Open Source Software Engineer, Chicago, IL Message-ID: <00d101c61282$f1b07680$0a02a8c0@superioss.com> Open Source Software Engineer, Chicago, IL (Salary is Open / D.O.E.) My client is looking for highly talented software engineer to complement its development team. Candidate will be part of a team of developers building complex web based applications. He or she will be involved in architectural decisions and be responsible for implementing parts of the system. It will be important for the candidate to be able to take on a project independently and ensure its success. REQUIREMENTS: o The ideal candidate will be fluent in Ruby as well as proficient with Ruby on Rails. Given that these are new technologies, extensive experience developing web applications in Object-Oriented Perl, Python, or Java can be substituted as long as a strong desire to work in Ruby exists. o Experience in JavaScript and CSS is desirable as well as AJAX. o A deep understanding of relational databases and SQL is a must. o Experience with MySQL, PostgreSql is a big plus. o Experience with Linux/Unix is a must. o A degree in Computer Science, Engineering or relevant experience We subscribe to a notion that great programmers are 300 times more productive then average programmers. We are looking for a top-quality hacker: an expert programmer with good design sense and desire to get things accomplished. If you are bored of just a job, this may be the place for you. If you are interested in this position, please send resume and salary requirement to beau at superiorss.com This is a full time, on-site, salaried position for Illinois residents with authorization to work in the USA Open Source Jobs Yahoo Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/opensourcejobs -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.13/221 - Release Date: 1/4/2006 From ryan at platte.name Fri Jan 6 22:40:35 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 21:40:35 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> Is there anything I need to do to get our TextDrive connection going? As the new boss now, I'd like to move to our own domain rather than shell out the $12/month Meetup wants. On 11/14/05, Joe O'Brien wrote: > > no need. I just spoke to Jason. TextDrive is going to help us out. I'll > get details and pass them along. > > Stay tuned. > > In the mean time, if you are looking for personal hosting ... > http://textdrive.com. > > -Joe > > //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - > // Joe O'Brien, artisan > // ThoughtWorks, Inc. > // http://blog.objo.com > // Y! id = joeobjo, gmail = obrien.joe > // cell: 614\906-1394 > //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - > > > > > Zeljko Dakic > Sent by: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org > > 11/14/2005 12:58 PM > Please respond to > member discussions of the Chicago Area Ruby Group > > > > To member discussions of the Chicago Area Ruby Group > > > cc > Subject Re: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names > > > > > > Does this mean that we don't have where to host this or someone else is > picking up? > I don't think this website will need that much resources ... you can > always host on http://www.railsplayground.com and I will pay $12 for > sandbox account. > > John let me know if this would be good. > > Regards, > Zeljko Dakic > > Chris McAvoy wrote: > > >Sorry, I cut down on all my hosting gigs. I don't have a good server > >for it anymore. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List mailing list > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List mailing list > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > > > -- Ryan Platte From rubygroup at johnwlong.com Sat Jan 7 10:10:42 2006 From: rubygroup at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 10:10:42 -0500 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> Ryan Platte wrote: > Is there anything I need to do to get our TextDrive connection going? > As the new boss now, I'd like to move to our own domain rather than > shell out the $12/month Meetup wants. I think a new domain name would be great. It's certainly easier to remember than http://ruby.meetup.com/55, however, I'd highly recommend keeping the meetup site until we have something that is on par with it. There's a lot in the way of reminders that the site offers (Ryan I'd recommend that you turn these on) that make it well worth the $12 a mo. (Particularly if you are as disorganized as I am.) I'm planning on continuing to support the meetup site at this point, too, so it's free on your end. :-) Why not keep it? -- John From ryan at platte.name Sat Jan 7 10:34:53 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 09:34:53 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> On 1/7/06, John W. Long wrote: > Ryan Platte wrote: > > Is there anything I need to do to get our TextDrive connection going? > > As the new boss now, I'd like to move to our own domain rather than > > shell out the $12/month Meetup wants. > > I think a new domain name would be great. It's certainly easier to > remember than http://ruby.meetup.com/55, however, I'd highly recommend > keeping the meetup site until we have something that is on par with it. > > There's a lot in the way of reminders that the site offers (Ryan I'd > recommend that you turn these on) that make it well worth the $12 a mo. > (Particularly if you are as disorganized as I am.) I'm planning on > continuing to support the meetup site at this point, too, so it's free > on your end. :-) Why not keep it? Well, when you put it *that* way... Thanks for graciously offering to continue supporting the meetup subscription -- I accept. Now then, for the future: I would definitely like to move us into chirb.org as soon as it's feasible. Is anyone aware of an open-source Meetup replacement in Rails? If not, I'd like to lead a project to build one ...with a live beta at http://chirb.org. :-) So next actions on this: * I'll complete the Meetup handover. * We'll discuss whether to use something already built, or build something ourselves * Joe or someone please let me know how to get started with the hosting TextDrive has generously offered us * Daniel or Brian or someone who controls chirb.org (i'm too lazy to whois in between supervising my boys' breakfast!), please get in touch so we can send DNS control to TXD * I'll look into taking advantage of RubyForge's new SVN for this project -- or maybe just use TextDrive's? Input welcome. -- Ryan Platte From ryan at platte.name Sun Jan 8 01:32:32 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 00:32:32 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601072232g3b1ca009scc438a3874fdfb30@mail.gmail.com> On 1/7/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > So next actions on this: > * I'll complete the Meetup handover. I looked into this. Meetup wants the handover-ee to shell out to become the new organizer, and I don't want to do that since we're just going to be moving right back out (not just because of cost -- they keep members' email addresses to themselves too). So instead John and I agreed to just let it sit as is while we build the new site. > * We'll discuss whether to use something already built, or build > something ourselves I just did some Googling and found CivicSpace, but that's 1) implemented in Drupal, and 2) has about 20,000 features more than what we need. Besides, I smell an opportunity to learn a lot and create/improve some valuable RubyGems along the way to rolling our own, so I'm definitely leaning that way. -- Ryan Platte From ryan at platte.name Sun Jan 8 11:05:42 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:05:42 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601080805q5ef38838m22fae2ab478ede98@mail.gmail.com> OK, trying to take full advantage of my weekend here... On 1/7/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > So next actions on this: > * I'll complete the Meetup handover. As I mentioned, decision is to let the Meetup die a peaceful death. > * We'll discuss whether to use something already built, or build > something ourselves We're hackers: build! ;-) > * Joe or someone please let me know how to get started with the > hosting TextDrive has generously offered us I'll contact Joe to learn more. > * Daniel or Brian or someone who controls chirb.org (i'm too lazy to > whois in between supervising my boys' breakfast!), please get in touch > so we can send DNS control to TXD It's Daniel, I'll contact him. (chiruby.org, I was mistaken) > * I'll look into taking advantage of RubyForge's new SVN for this > project -- or maybe just use TextDrive's? Input welcome. Let's go with RubyForge to emphasize our goal of sharing with the larger community. Asked John to include me as a dev (or maybe admin). If we run into any limitations, we can go with our TXD subversion instead, but marketing-wise I think RubyForge makes more sense. -- Ryan Platte From chris.mcavoy at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 10:14:42 2006 From: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com (Chris McAvoy) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 09:14:42 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601080805q5ef38838m22fae2ab478ede98@mail.gmail.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601080805q5ef38838m22fae2ab478ede98@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3096c19d0601090714w1eac8eect93af40683784b2cb@mail.gmail.com> On 1/8/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > > * Daniel or Brian or someone who controls chirb.org (i'm too lazy to > > whois in between supervising my boys' breakfast!), please get in touch > > so we can send DNS control to TXD > > It's Daniel, I'll contact him. (chiruby.org, I was mistaken) > What a shame! chirb.org sounds awesome. Chirb. Chris From ryan at platte.name Mon Jan 9 10:21:06 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 09:21:06 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <3096c19d0601090714w1eac8eect93af40683784b2cb@mail.gmail.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601080805q5ef38838m22fae2ab478ede98@mail.gmail.com> <3096c19d0601090714w1eac8eect93af40683784b2cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601090721x7db4655bo6c1caae2bc3d32ce@mail.gmail.com> On 1/9/06, Chris McAvoy wrote: > On 1/8/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > > > chirb.org > > > > (chiruby.org, I was mistaken) > > What a shame! chirb.org sounds awesome. > > Chirb. Actually, I prefer that too. Let's vote tonight. Anybody who's not coming tonight, feel free to cast a write-in vote here. :-) -- Ryan Platte From chris.mcavoy at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 10:25:17 2006 From: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com (Chris McAvoy) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 09:25:17 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601090721x7db4655bo6c1caae2bc3d32ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601080805q5ef38838m22fae2ab478ede98@mail.gmail.com> <3096c19d0601090714w1eac8eect93af40683784b2cb@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601090721x7db4655bo6c1caae2bc3d32ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3096c19d0601090725v201053ddmbbfcfa99e61cfb24@mail.gmail.com> On 1/9/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > > Chirb. > > Actually, I prefer that too. Let's vote tonight. Anybody who's not > coming tonight, feel free to cast a write-in vote here. :-) Just speaking from experience, I registered chipy.org a while ago, and forced everyone to pronounce it "chippy". That led to a chipmunk as a mascot. I'm happy with chippy the chipmunk, but beware of what kind of mascot a Chirb conjures up. I can't make it tonight, but want to case my vote for Chirb. Chirb in '06! Chris From NStowe at TheTTGroup.com Mon Jan 9 10:30:35 2006 From: NStowe at TheTTGroup.com (Stowe, Nola) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 09:30:35 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names Message-ID: I vote chiruby.org (Sorry can't come tonight!) -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Platte [mailto:ryan at platte.name] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 9:21 AM To: member discussions of the Chicago Area Ruby Group Subject: Re: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names On 1/9/06, Chris McAvoy wrote: > On 1/8/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > > > chirb.org > > > > (chiruby.org, I was mistaken) > > What a shame! chirb.org sounds awesome. > > Chirb. Actually, I prefer that too. Let's vote tonight. Anybody who's not coming tonight, feel free to cast a write-in vote here. :-) -- Ryan Platte _______________________________________________ ChicagoGroup-Members-List mailing list ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> The information in this email and any attachments may contain confidential information that is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). This message or any part thereof must not be disclosed, copied, distributed or retained by any person without authorization from the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately, and delete this message. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From ryan at platte.name Mon Jan 9 10:33:34 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 09:33:34 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <3096c19d0601090725v201053ddmbbfcfa99e61cfb24@mail.gmail.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601080805q5ef38838m22fae2ab478ede98@mail.gmail.com> <3096c19d0601090714w1eac8eect93af40683784b2cb@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601090721x7db4655bo6c1caae2bc3d32ce@mail.gmail.com> <3096c19d0601090725v201053ddmbbfcfa99e61cfb24@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601090733t7b2ae89bj6c30805ca321175f@mail.gmail.com> On 1/9/06, Chris McAvoy wrote: > On 1/9/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > > > Chirb. > > > > Actually, I prefer that too. Let's vote tonight. Anybody who's not > > coming tonight, feel free to cast a write-in vote here. :-) > > Just speaking from experience, I registered chipy.org a while ago, and > forced everyone to pronounce it "chippy". That led to a chipmunk as a > mascot. I'm happy with chippy the chipmunk, but beware of what kind > of mascot a Chirb conjures up. Ah, I'm not above awkwardly punny humor. I couldn't be there for the first-ever Chicago Ruby Group meeting, but one of the three of us suggested the meeting start at Ruby Tuesday, and I believe they actually went and did that, on a Tuesday. Nothing's worse than another faceless acronym that doesn't mean anything, y'know? > I can't make it tonight, but want to case my vote for Chirb. > > Chirb in '06! That's how I'll be voting, too. -- Ryan Platte From qzzzq1 at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 10:50:54 2006 From: qzzzq1 at gmail.com (aberant) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 09:50:54 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601090733t7b2ae89bj6c30805ca321175f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601080805q5ef38838m22fae2ab478ede98@mail.gmail.com> <3096c19d0601090714w1eac8eect93af40683784b2cb@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601090721x7db4655bo6c1caae2bc3d32ce@mail.gmail.com> <3096c19d0601090725v201053ddmbbfcfa99e61cfb24@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601090733t7b2ae89bj6c30805ca321175f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <507da57a0601090750q5b2344ebyb2b9e82e2ea43927@mail.gmail.com> as much as i like regular ole chiruby.org.. i like the potential that exsists with chirb.org.. we just need a quality mascot... i vote for chirb and we swipe the python chipmunk, give him a pirate eye patch.. and have him holding a ruby and a bag of loot... On 1/9/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > On 1/9/06, Chris McAvoy wrote: > > On 1/9/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > > > > Chirb. > > > > > > Actually, I prefer that too. Let's vote tonight. Anybody who's not > > > coming tonight, feel free to cast a write-in vote here. :-) > > > > Just speaking from experience, I registered chipy.org a while ago, and > > forced everyone to pronounce it "chippy". That led to a chipmunk as a > > mascot. I'm happy with chippy the chipmunk, but beware of what kind > > of mascot a Chirb conjures up. > > Ah, I'm not above awkwardly punny humor. I couldn't be there for the > first-ever Chicago Ruby Group meeting, but one of the three of us > suggested the meeting start at Ruby Tuesday, and I believe they > actually went and did that, on a Tuesday. > > Nothing's worse than another faceless acronym that doesn't mean > anything, y'know? > > > I can't make it tonight, but want to case my vote for Chirb. > > > > Chirb in '06! > > That's how I'll be voting, too. > > -- > Ryan Platte > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List mailing list > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > From nick at neotericdesign.com Mon Jan 9 10:53:48 2006 From: nick at neotericdesign.com (Nicholas Gracilla) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 09:53:48 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <507da57a0601090750q5b2344ebyb2b9e82e2ea43927@mail.gmail.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601080805q5ef38838m22fae2ab478ede98@mail.gmail.com> <3096c19d0601090714w1eac8eect93af40683784b2cb@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601090721x7db4655bo6c1caae2bc3d32ce@mail.gmail.com> <3096c19d0601090725v201053ddmbbfcfa99e61cfb24@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601090733t7b2ae89bj6c30805ca321175f@mail.gmail.com> <507da57a0601090750q5b2344ebyb2b9e82e2ea43927@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <704E918F-13DB-46BB-BD0D-F8E6B141DB3D@neotericdesign.com> On Jan 9, 2006, at 9:50 AM, aberant wrote: > i vote for chirb and we swipe the python chipmunk, give him a pirate > eye patch.. and have him holding a ruby and a bag of loot... A chirb sounds like some kind of bush tucker to me -- I like it. In lieu of meeting this evening, I'll cast my vote with it. Nick. From ryan at platte.name Mon Jan 9 10:55:14 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 09:55:14 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <507da57a0601090750q5b2344ebyb2b9e82e2ea43927@mail.gmail.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601080805q5ef38838m22fae2ab478ede98@mail.gmail.com> <3096c19d0601090714w1eac8eect93af40683784b2cb@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601090721x7db4655bo6c1caae2bc3d32ce@mail.gmail.com> <3096c19d0601090725v201053ddmbbfcfa99e61cfb24@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601090733t7b2ae89bj6c30805ca321175f@mail.gmail.com> <507da57a0601090750q5b2344ebyb2b9e82e2ea43927@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601090755yac5979ctd99af1cc01ceda22@mail.gmail.com> On 1/9/06, aberant wrote: > as much as i like regular ole chiruby.org.. i like the potential that > exsists with chirb.org.. we just need a quality mascot... > > i vote for chirb and we swipe the python chipmunk, give him a pirate > eye patch.. and have him holding a ruby and a bag of loot... LOL, we're meeting at ThoughtWorks and giving our mascot a bag of loot. Ruby is truly enterprise-ready now. -- Ryan Platte From JOBrien at thoughtworks.com Mon Jan 9 11:04:39 2006 From: JOBrien at thoughtworks.com (Joe O'Brien) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:04:39 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601090755yac5979ctd99af1cc01ceda22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I will be there tonight, but wanted to throw in my .02 (I never can resist). When we were looking to decide in Columbus what to call ourselves, we were contacted by Portland. They had requested we stick with the ruby brigade naming convention (chirb). Many of the groups are going with this. -Joe //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - // Joe O'Brien, artisan // ThoughtWorks, Inc. // http://blog.objo.com // Y! id = joeobjo, gmail = obrien.joe // cell: 614\906-1394 //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org wrote on 01/09/2006 09:55:14 AM: > On 1/9/06, aberant wrote: > > as much as i like regular ole chiruby.org.. i like the potential that > > exsists with chirb.org.. we just need a quality mascot... > > > > i vote for chirb and we swipe the python chipmunk, give him a pirate > > eye patch.. and have him holding a ruby and a bag of loot... > > LOL, we're meeting at ThoughtWorks and giving our mascot a bag of > loot. Ruby is truly enterprise-ready now. > > -- > Ryan Platte > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List mailing list > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060109/fc914029/attachment.htm From curt.hibbs at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 11:05:52 2006 From: curt.hibbs at gmail.com (Curt Hibbs) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:05:52 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601072232g3b1ca009scc438a3874fdfb30@mail.gmail.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601072232g3b1ca009scc438a3874fdfb30@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <31d15f490601090805x535297ebr1f7e9f6e228b9726@mail.gmail.com> I think a Rails version of Meetup.com would be killer and be very popular (in the same way that Typo is). I would even like to include such a thing as one of the preinstalled sample apps in Instant Rails. Its interesting that we're having this discussion because -- I don't know if you remember this -- early last year when DHH made a trip out Chicago for "Building of Basecamp", and you and John hosted a little meetup afterward, I tried to convince you and John to do a meetup.com replacement for the RailsDay competition. Anyway, I think its a shame that meetup.com priced themselves so high, they are just setting themselves up for open source competition. If they had just gone for $3 to $5 a month, its likely no one would bother writing a replacement because it would just be easier to stick with meetup.com. Curt On 1/8/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > > On 1/7/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > > So next actions on this: > > * I'll complete the Meetup handover. > > I looked into this. Meetup wants the handover-ee to shell out to > become the new organizer, and I don't want to do that since we're just > going to be moving right back out (not just because of cost -- they > keep members' email addresses to themselves too). So instead John and > I agreed to just let it sit as is while we build the new site. > > > * We'll discuss whether to use something already built, or build > > something ourselves > > I just did some Googling and found CivicSpace, but that's 1) > implemented in Drupal, and 2) has about 20,000 features more than what > we need. Besides, I smell an opportunity to learn a lot and > create/improve some valuable RubyGems along the way to rolling our > own, so I'm definitely leaning that way. > > -- > Ryan Platte > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List mailing list > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060109/02931b5d/attachment.htm From ryan at platte.name Mon Jan 9 11:25:11 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:25:11 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <31d15f490601090805x535297ebr1f7e9f6e228b9726@mail.gmail.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601072232g3b1ca009scc438a3874fdfb30@mail.gmail.com> <31d15f490601090805x535297ebr1f7e9f6e228b9726@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601090825g36b85b26t172d5a662692ef09@mail.gmail.com> On 1/9/06, Curt Hibbs wrote: > I think a Rails version of Meetup.com would be killer and be very popular > (in the same way that Typo is). I would even like to include such a thing as > one of the preinstalled sample apps in Instant Rails. Whoa, really? Please expand on why you think this could something more than a service app that might run on 2 or 3 sites tops. To give you an idea of where I think this could be headed, someone mentioned the possibility of seeing if there can be a groups.ruby-lang.org using this app if the quality's high enough. I'm really interested in what you're imagining for this tool. (Can't promise we'll build the needed features first if they're not in our needed scope, but curious nonetheless.) > Its interesting that we're having this discussion because -- I don't know if > you remember this -- early last year when DHH made a trip out Chicago for > "Building of Basecamp", and you and John hosted a little meetup afterward, I > tried to convince you and John to do a meetup.com replacement for the > RailsDay competition. Yes, how could I forget, especially since you blogged it to promise the world we'd come through! :-) Instead, I convinced John at the last minute that we should change course and do something new and less implementable. (It was way too late at night to make big decisions, should've slept first.) We built part of an RSS reader a few months before Google came along and implemented many of the concepts that made ours special in its Google Reader app. Oh well, that's Web 2.0 for you. :-) -- Ryan Platte From curt.hibbs at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 12:00:38 2006 From: curt.hibbs at gmail.com (Curt Hibbs) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:00:38 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601090825g36b85b26t172d5a662692ef09@mail.gmail.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601072232g3b1ca009scc438a3874fdfb30@mail.gmail.com> <31d15f490601090805x535297ebr1f7e9f6e228b9726@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601090825g36b85b26t172d5a662692ef09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <31d15f490601090900p62d2bea7g73dac9f4566264f8@mail.gmail.com> On 1/9/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > > On 1/9/06, Curt Hibbs wrote: > > I think a Rails version of Meetup.com would be killer and be very > popular > > (in the same way that Typo is). I would even like to include such a > thing as > > one of the preinstalled sample apps in Instant Rails. > > Whoa, really? Please expand on why you think this could something more > than a service app that might run on 2 or 3 sites tops. To give you an > idea of where I think this could be headed, someone mentioned the > possibility of seeing if there can be a groups.ruby-lang.org using > this app if the quality's high enough. I'm really interested in what > you're imagining for this tool. (Can't promise we'll build the needed > features first if they're not in our needed scope, but curious > nonetheless.) > I think groups.ruby-lang.org would be a great idea (for Ruby related groups). I also think there is huge unmet need out there for collaborative scheduling. The purpose of preinstalled sample apps in Instant Rails is two-fold: 1) developers might actually want to deploy and use it (Typo easily fits here), and 2) they serve as non-trivial, real-world examples of how to build and structure a Rails app. Curt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060109/c5fe5ecc/attachment.htm From ehs at pobox.com Mon Jan 9 12:24:38 2006 From: ehs at pobox.com (Ed Summers) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:24:38 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601090825g36b85b26t172d5a662692ef09@mail.gmail.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601072232g3b1ca009scc438a3874fdfb30@mail.gmail.com> <31d15f490601090805x535297ebr1f7e9f6e228b9726@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601090825g36b85b26t172d5a662692ef09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 1/9/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > Whoa, really? Please expand on why you think this could something more > than a service app that might run on 2 or 3 sites tops. To give you an > idea of where I think this could be headed, someone mentioned the > possibility of seeing if there can be a groups.ruby-lang.org using > this app if the quality's high enough. I'm really interested in what > you're imagining for this tool. (Can't promise we'll build the needed > features first if they're not in our needed scope, but curious > nonetheless.) One thing that might be nice to have (if this app gets under way) is support for hCalendar [1]. hCalendar is a microformat, or a way of styling your HTML so that it can be easily harvestable by bots, javascript add ons to browsers [2], etc. It's basically just HTML with class attributes that parallel the iCalendar format. I believe Upcoming may have hCalendar support already, but I'm not sure about Meetup. It sounds like this could be a good opportunity for the group to hack on a project collaboratively...which I'd like to get involved in if there is room. //Ed [1] http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar [2] http://george.hotelling.net/90percent/geekery/greasemonkey_and_microformats.php From ryan at platte.name Mon Jan 9 12:34:29 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:34:29 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601072232g3b1ca009scc438a3874fdfb30@mail.gmail.com> <31d15f490601090805x535297ebr1f7e9f6e228b9726@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601090825g36b85b26t172d5a662692ef09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601090934i469448fbu9a7eceb2115edfb1@mail.gmail.com> On 1/9/06, Ed Summers wrote: > On 1/9/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > > Whoa, really? Please expand on why you think this could something more > > than a service app that might run on 2 or 3 sites tops. To give you an > > idea of where I think this could be headed, someone mentioned the > > possibility of seeing if there can be a groups.ruby-lang.org using > > this app if the quality's high enough. I'm really interested in what > > you're imagining for this tool. (Can't promise we'll build the needed > > features first if they're not in our needed scope, but curious > > nonetheless.) > > One thing that might be nice to have (if this app gets under way) is > support for hCalendar [1]. hCalendar is a microformat, or a way of > styling your HTML so that it can be easily harvestable by bots, > javascript add ons to browsers [2], etc. It's basically just HTML with > class attributes that parallel the iCalendar format. > > I believe Upcoming may have hCalendar support already, but I'm not > sure about Meetup. That looks terrific and quite easy to develop. > It sounds like this could be a good opportunity for > the group to hack on a project collaboratively...which I'd like to get > involved in if there is room. Love to have you! I'm installing myself as the benevolent dictator for the project (at least to get it started), but beyond that, y'all come. I'm hoping we can have some Chirb hackfests to work on it together. -- Ryan Platte From qzzzq1 at gmail.com Mon Jan 9 12:41:28 2006 From: qzzzq1 at gmail.com (aberant) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:41:28 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601090934i469448fbu9a7eceb2115edfb1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601072232g3b1ca009scc438a3874fdfb30@mail.gmail.com> <31d15f490601090805x535297ebr1f7e9f6e228b9726@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601090825g36b85b26t172d5a662692ef09@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601090934i469448fbu9a7eceb2115edfb1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <507da57a0601090941s38841838m39b4eab20cb0f14c@mail.gmail.com> i'm really interested in helping out with chirb... ryan, are you going to be at the meeting tonight to talk about this? -colin On 1/9/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > On 1/9/06, Ed Summers wrote: > > On 1/9/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > > > Whoa, really? Please expand on why you think this could something more > > > than a service app that might run on 2 or 3 sites tops. To give you an > > > idea of where I think this could be headed, someone mentioned the > > > possibility of seeing if there can be a groups.ruby-lang.org using > > > this app if the quality's high enough. I'm really interested in what > > > you're imagining for this tool. (Can't promise we'll build the needed > > > features first if they're not in our needed scope, but curious > > > nonetheless.) > > > > One thing that might be nice to have (if this app gets under way) is > > support for hCalendar [1]. hCalendar is a microformat, or a way of > > styling your HTML so that it can be easily harvestable by bots, > > javascript add ons to browsers [2], etc. It's basically just HTML with > > class attributes that parallel the iCalendar format. > > > > I believe Upcoming may have hCalendar support already, but I'm not > > sure about Meetup. > > That looks terrific and quite easy to develop. > > > It sounds like this could be a good opportunity for > > the group to hack on a project collaboratively...which I'd like to get > > involved in if there is room. > > Love to have you! I'm installing myself as the benevolent dictator for > the project (at least to get it started), but beyond that, y'all come. > I'm hoping we can have some Chirb hackfests to work on it together. > > -- > Ryan Platte > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List mailing list > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > From ryan at platte.name Mon Jan 9 12:45:38 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:45:38 -0600 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <507da57a0601090941s38841838m39b4eab20cb0f14c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601072232g3b1ca009scc438a3874fdfb30@mail.gmail.com> <31d15f490601090805x535297ebr1f7e9f6e228b9726@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601090825g36b85b26t172d5a662692ef09@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601090934i469448fbu9a7eceb2115edfb1@mail.gmail.com> <507da57a0601090941s38841838m39b4eab20cb0f14c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601090945y57f9d563rbb05cdb2843e4a89@mail.gmail.com> On 1/9/06, aberant wrote: > i'm really interested in helping out with chirb... ryan, are you going > to be at the meeting tonight to talk about this? I'm planning to. There's a possibility something will come up today that will keep me from going, but yes, I intend to be there. Thanks for your interest, Colin! -- Ryan Platte From rubygroup at johnwlong.com Mon Jan 9 18:58:40 2006 From: rubygroup at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:58:40 -0500 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Domain Names In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601090733t7b2ae89bj6c30805ca321175f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4378DE46.6040301@dakic.com> <2f1a1dcb0601061940p3a530894x69bf6c70bdc545bf@mail.gmail.com> <43BFD9F2.5070303@johnwlong.com> <2f1a1dcb0601070734x1ffc0d28s3d67934cab2c06f4@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601080805q5ef38838m22fae2ab478ede98@mail.gmail.com> <3096c19d0601090714w1eac8eect93af40683784b2cb@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601090721x7db4655bo6c1caae2bc3d32ce@mail.gmail.com> <3096c19d0601090725v201053ddmbbfcfa99e61cfb24@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601090733t7b2ae89bj6c30805ca321175f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43C2F8B0.20303@johnwlong.com> Ryan Platte wrote: > > Ah, I'm not above awkwardly punny humor. I couldn't be there for the > first-ever Chicago Ruby Group meeting, but one of the three of us > suggested the meeting start at Ruby Tuesday, and I believe they > actually went and did that, on a Tuesday. > > Nothing's worse than another faceless acronym that doesn't mean > anything, y'know? > Speaking of that, my original idea for a name for the group was "charge" for Chicago Area Ruby Group. Of course, I'm sure charge.org is already take. Sigh... -- John From rubygroup at johnwlong.com Tue Jan 10 10:12:42 2006 From: rubygroup at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:12:42 -0500 Subject: [Chicago Area Ruby Group] Last Night Message-ID: <43C3CEEA.2070608@johnwlong.com> So... for those of us who weren't able to make it last night, could someone give a recap of what was learned? :) -- John Long http://wiseheartdesign.com From ryan at platte.name Wed Jan 11 12:12:55 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:12:55 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Chicago Rails training Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601110912g45d77394ve978bbab384293fc@mail.gmail.com> I imagine many of you will be aware of this already, but the Pragmatic Rails training is coming to Chicago, and registration is now open: http://www.clarkware.com/cgi/blosxom/2006/01/10#RailsStudioChicago -- Ryan Platte From ng at johnwlong.com Sun Jan 22 00:32:48 2006 From: ng at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 00:32:48 -0500 Subject: [Chirb] Fwd: [ANN] Radius 0.0.1 -- Powerful Tag-Based Templates Message-ID: <43D31900.3060900@johnwlong.com> If you are interested in getting involved with an interesting project, I've just released the first version of Radius. There is a lot to do and I could sure use some help. The quick start is the best guide for getting up and running with it: http://radius.rubyforge.org/files/QUICKSTART.html Check out the roadmap to see where I am wanting to go with it: http://radius.rubyforge.org/files/ROADMAP.html This was originally a project that myself, Brian Young, and Ryan Platte started. That was back when the Chicago Area Ruby Group was three strong (and most of the time only two of us showed up :-). -- John Long http://wiseheartdesign.com -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ANN] Radius 0.0.1 -- Powerful Tag-Based Templates Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:18:23 +0900 From: John W. Long Reply-To: ruby-talk at ruby-lang.org To: ruby-talk at ruby-lang.org (ruby-talk ML) I am pleased to announce the immediate release of Radius 0.0.1. This is very beta right now, but I wanted to release it so that I could begin getting feedback. Radius is a small, but powerful tag-based template language for Ruby inspired by the template languages used in MovableType and TextPattern . It uses tags similar to HTML, but can be used to generate any form of plain text (XML, e-mail, etc...). Download: http://rubyforge.org/frs/?group_id=1262 Documentation: http://radius.rubyforge.org Instalation: % gem install radius A small usage example: class ThreeStoogesContext < Radius::Context def initialize @prefix = 'ts' end def stooge(attr) content = '' ["Larry", "Moe", "Curly"].each do |name| @name = name content << yield end content end def name(attr) @name end end parser = Radius::Parser.new(ThreeStoogesContext.new) template = <<-TEMPLATE
TEMPLATE puts parser.parse(template) This will output:
  • Larry
  • Moe
  • Curly
Learn more by reading the Quick Start guide: http://radius.rubyforge.org/files/QUICKSTART.html Enjoy! From ryan at platte.name Sun Jan 22 02:13:38 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 01:13:38 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Why I hate test/mocks Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601212313x67e81627q2f4310de9f87f124@mail.gmail.com> I (along with everyone who has to live with me) am tired of having vague notions that there's some things about Rails I don't like, and especially tired of not being able to back those vague criticisms up when challenged. So I've begun to take steps toward being Part of the Solution by blogging about specifics. I would covet your comments on my first such post: http://plattedaddy.blogspot.com/2006/01/why-rails-bugs-me-part-1-testmocks.html -- Ryan Platte From NStowe at TheTTGroup.com Mon Jan 23 15:54:51 2006 From: NStowe at TheTTGroup.com (Stowe, Nola) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:54:51 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Fwd: [Chicago-talk] MEETING/TALK: Feb 6, 2006 with Mark Jason Dom inus Message-ID: Because of this special Perl meeting, is it possible to change the date of the Ruby meeting to week after? I, for one, would like to attend both. (Its just a question! I don't want a language flame-war) :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Andy Lester Date: Jan 7, 2006 6:28 PM Subject: [Chicago-talk] MEETING/TALK: Feb 6, 2006 with Mark Jason Dominus To: chicago-talk at mail.pm.org, chicago-announce at mail.pm.org [Please feel free to forward to other area groups. Mark is a great speaker and well worth the trip. -- Andy] Mark Jason Dominus Red Flags: Code Review World Tour Feb 6, 2006 2006 (7:00 PM - 9:00 PM) Doors open at 6:00: Talk with Mark before the meeting Illinois Institute Of Technology, Rice Campus Auditorium, room 166 201 East Loop Road Wheaton, IL http://www.rice.iit.edu/directions.html Chicago Perl Mongers is proud to welcome Mark Jason Dominus, author of "Higher-Order Perl," to the February meeting of Chicago.pm. Mark will be talking about the book he's currently working on, Perl Program Repair Shop and Red Flags. We'll be giving away a copy of Mark's book "Higher-Order Perl" as well as other swag. MJD is a very popular speaker, and we expect a large turnout. Please let us know you plan to attend by emailing andy at petdance.com with "MJD" in the subject. As preparation, Mark has asked Chicago PMers to read the following: I'm writing a new book, which I hope will be published in 2007. It's about code review and refactoring in Perl. (For more complete information, please see http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/.) To do this right, I need real examples of real code that other people wrote. I'll review the code and fix it up, and explain in the book what I did and why. I have about half the examples that I need. I hope that the Perl community can provide the other half. For the next year, I'll be travelling around speaking to Perl Mongers groups about this. I'd like to give about one talk each month for the rest of the year. What I hope will happen is that a group will invite me to come speak, and that some of the group members will send me some example code ahead of time. Then I'll read over the code, write up a talk about how I think it could be improved, and come visit the group and give the talk. After I go home again, I'l write up a book chapter about the code, incorporating the points that the PM group raised when I gave the talk. Guidelines for code contributions are at http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/contribute.html I need your contributions no later than January 17th. To contribute, send code to: mjd at plover.com. Questions? Send to mjd at plover.com. Thanks a lot for having me in to speak. For questions about this or any other upcoming meeting, please email Andy Lester at andy at petdance.com. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> The information in this email and any attachments may contain confidential information that is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). This message or any part thereof must not be disclosed, copied, distributed or retained by any person without authorization from the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately, and delete this message. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From ryan at platte.name Tue Jan 24 01:03:16 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 00:03:16 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Fwd: [Chicago-talk] MEETING/TALK: Feb 6, 2006 with Mark Jason Dom inus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601232203l4f8bd42rba09e4d681d19348@mail.gmail.com> I haven't seen any replies to this suggestion yet...I'm inclined to go ahead with our meeting. (I'm biased, tho -- I haven't heard of this guy, and I'm looking forward to meeting Marcel!) On 1/23/06, Stowe, Nola wrote: > Because of this special Perl meeting, is it possible to change the date of > the Ruby meeting to week after? > > I, for one, would like to attend both. > > (Its just a question! I don't want a language flame-war) :) > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Andy Lester > Date: Jan 7, 2006 6:28 PM > Subject: [Chicago-talk] MEETING/TALK: Feb 6, 2006 with Mark Jason Dominus > To: chicago-talk at mail.pm.org, chicago-announce at mail.pm.org > > > [Please feel free to forward to other area groups. Mark is a great speaker > and well worth the trip. -- Andy] > > Mark Jason Dominus > Red Flags: Code Review World Tour > Feb 6, 2006 2006 (7:00 PM - 9:00 PM) Doors open at 6:00: Talk with Mark > before the meeting > > Illinois Institute Of Technology, Rice Campus Auditorium, room 166 > 201 East Loop Road > Wheaton, IL > http://www.rice.iit.edu/directions.html > > Chicago Perl Mongers is proud to welcome Mark Jason Dominus, author of > "Higher-Order Perl," to the February meeting of Chicago.pm. Mark will be > talking about the book he's currently working on, Perl Program Repair Shop > and Red Flags. We'll be giving away a copy of Mark's book "Higher-Order > Perl" as well as other swag. > > MJD is a very popular speaker, and we expect a large turnout. Please let us > know you plan to attend by emailing andy at petdance.com with "MJD" > in the subject. > > As preparation, Mark has asked Chicago PMers to read the following: > > I'm writing a new book, which I hope will be published in 2007. It's > about code review and refactoring in Perl. (For more complete > information, please see http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/.) > > To do this right, I need real examples of real code that other people > wrote. I'll review the code and fix it up, and explain in the book > what I did and why. > > I have about half the examples that I need. I hope that the Perl > community can provide the other half. > > For the next year, I'll be travelling around speaking to Perl Mongers > groups about this. I'd like to give about one talk each month for > the rest of the year. > > What I hope will happen is that a group will invite me to come speak, > and that some of the group members will send me some example code > ahead of time. Then I'll read over the code, write up a talk about > how I think it could be improved, and come visit the group and give > the talk. After I go home again, I'l write up a book chapter about > the code, incorporating the points that the PM group raised when I > gave the talk. > > Guidelines for code contributions are at > > http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/contribute.html > > I need your contributions no later than January 17th. To contribute, > send code to: mjd at plover.com. Questions? Send to mjd at plover.com. > > Thanks a lot for having me in to speak. > > For questions about this or any other upcoming meeting, please email Andy > Lester at andy at petdance.com. > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > The information in this email and any attachments may contain > confidential information that is intended solely for the > attention and use of the named addressee(s). This message or > any part thereof must not be disclosed, copied, distributed or > retained by any person without authorization from the addressee. > If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender > immediately, and delete this message. > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > -- Ryan Platte From peter at oaktop.com Tue Jan 24 01:13:50 2006 From: peter at oaktop.com (Peter K Chan) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 01:13:50 -0500 Subject: [Chirb] Fwd: [Chicago-talk] MEETING/TALK: Feb 6, 2006 with Mark Jason Dom inus Message-ID: I don't mind whenever the meeting date ends up being. However, do we have a description on what the next meeting will be on? I can't find the description on the meetup.com event page. Thanks, Peter -----Original Message----- From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Platte Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:03 AM To: Chirb discussion list Subject: Re: [Chirb] Fwd: [Chicago-talk] MEETING/TALK: Feb 6,2006 with Mark Jason Dom inus I haven't seen any replies to this suggestion yet...I'm inclined to go ahead with our meeting. (I'm biased, tho -- I haven't heard of this guy, and I'm looking forward to meeting Marcel!) On 1/23/06, Stowe, Nola wrote: > Because of this special Perl meeting, is it possible to change the date of > the Ruby meeting to week after? > > I, for one, would like to attend both. > > (Its just a question! I don't want a language flame-war) :) > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Andy Lester > Date: Jan 7, 2006 6:28 PM > Subject: [Chicago-talk] MEETING/TALK: Feb 6, 2006 with Mark Jason Dominus > To: chicago-talk at mail.pm.org, chicago-announce at mail.pm.org > > > [Please feel free to forward to other area groups. Mark is a great speaker > and well worth the trip. -- Andy] > > Mark Jason Dominus > Red Flags: Code Review World Tour > Feb 6, 2006 2006 (7:00 PM - 9:00 PM) Doors open at 6:00: Talk with Mark > before the meeting > > Illinois Institute Of Technology, Rice Campus Auditorium, room 166 > 201 East Loop Road > Wheaton, IL > http://www.rice.iit.edu/directions.html > > Chicago Perl Mongers is proud to welcome Mark Jason Dominus, author of > "Higher-Order Perl," to the February meeting of Chicago.pm. Mark will be > talking about the book he's currently working on, Perl Program Repair Shop > and Red Flags. We'll be giving away a copy of Mark's book "Higher-Order > Perl" as well as other swag. > > MJD is a very popular speaker, and we expect a large turnout. Please let us > know you plan to attend by emailing andy at petdance.com with "MJD" > in the subject. > > As preparation, Mark has asked Chicago PMers to read the following: > > I'm writing a new book, which I hope will be published in 2007. It's > about code review and refactoring in Perl. (For more complete > information, please see http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/.) > > To do this right, I need real examples of real code that other people > wrote. I'll review the code and fix it up, and explain in the book > what I did and why. > > I have about half the examples that I need. I hope that the Perl > community can provide the other half. > > For the next year, I'll be travelling around speaking to Perl Mongers > groups about this. I'd like to give about one talk each month for > the rest of the year. > > What I hope will happen is that a group will invite me to come speak, > and that some of the group members will send me some example code > ahead of time. Then I'll read over the code, write up a talk about > how I think it could be improved, and come visit the group and give > the talk. After I go home again, I'l write up a book chapter about > the code, incorporating the points that the PM group raised when I > gave the talk. > > Guidelines for code contributions are at > > http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/contribute.html > > I need your contributions no later than January 17th. To contribute, > send code to: mjd at plover.com. Questions? Send to mjd at plover.com. > > Thanks a lot for having me in to speak. > > For questions about this or any other upcoming meeting, please email Andy > Lester at andy at petdance.com. > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > The information in this email and any attachments may contain > confidential information that is intended solely for the > attention and use of the named addressee(s). This message or > any part thereof must not be disclosed, copied, distributed or > retained by any person without authorization from the addressee. > If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender > immediately, and delete this message. > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > -- Ryan Platte _______________________________________________ ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list From ryan at platte.name Wed Jan 25 08:08:44 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 07:08:44 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Fwd: [Chicago-talk] MEETING/TALK: Feb 6, 2006 with Mark Jason Dom inus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601250508n986ad40ib049c00c186d787d@mail.gmail.com> Marcel Molina (of 37signals and a Rails committer) is slated to speak on testing, both Ruby's test/unit and testing in Rails. I'm really looking forward to it. On 1/24/06, Peter K Chan wrote: > I don't mind whenever the meeting date ends up being. However, do we > have a description on what the next meeting will be on? I can't find the > description on the meetup.com event page. > > Thanks, > > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org > [mailto:chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of > Ryan Platte > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:03 AM > To: Chirb discussion list > Subject: Re: [Chirb] Fwd: [Chicago-talk] MEETING/TALK: Feb 6,2006 with > Mark Jason Dom inus > > I haven't seen any replies to this suggestion yet...I'm inclined to go > ahead with our meeting. (I'm biased, tho -- I haven't heard of this > guy, and I'm looking forward to meeting Marcel!) > > On 1/23/06, Stowe, Nola wrote: > > Because of this special Perl meeting, is it possible to change the > date of > > the Ruby meeting to week after? > > > > I, for one, would like to attend both. > > > > (Its just a question! I don't want a language flame-war) :) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Andy Lester > > Date: Jan 7, 2006 6:28 PM > > Subject: [Chicago-talk] MEETING/TALK: Feb 6, 2006 with Mark Jason > Dominus > > To: chicago-talk at mail.pm.org, chicago-announce at mail.pm.org > > > > > > [Please feel free to forward to other area groups. Mark is a great > speaker > > and well worth the trip. -- Andy] > > > > Mark Jason Dominus > > Red Flags: Code Review World Tour > > Feb 6, 2006 2006 (7:00 PM - 9:00 PM) Doors open at 6:00: Talk with > Mark > > before the meeting > > > > Illinois Institute Of Technology, Rice Campus Auditorium, room 166 > > 201 East Loop Road > > Wheaton, IL > > http://www.rice.iit.edu/directions.html > > > > Chicago Perl Mongers is proud to welcome Mark Jason Dominus, author of > > "Higher-Order Perl," to the February meeting of Chicago.pm. Mark will > be > > talking about the book he's currently working on, Perl Program Repair > Shop > > and Red Flags. We'll be giving away a copy of Mark's book > "Higher-Order > > Perl" as well as other swag. > > > > MJD is a very popular speaker, and we expect a large turnout. Please > let us > > know you plan to attend by emailing andy at petdance.com with "MJD" > > in the subject. > > > > As preparation, Mark has asked Chicago PMers to read the following: > > > > I'm writing a new book, which I hope will be published in 2007. > It's > > about code review and refactoring in Perl. (For more complete > > information, please see http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/.) > > > > To do this right, I need real examples of real code that other > people > > wrote. I'll review the code and fix it up, and explain in the book > > what I did and why. > > > > I have about half the examples that I need. I hope that the Perl > > community can provide the other half. > > > > For the next year, I'll be travelling around speaking to Perl > Mongers > > groups about this. I'd like to give about one talk each month for > > the rest of the year. > > > > What I hope will happen is that a group will invite me to come > speak, > > and that some of the group members will send me some example code > > ahead of time. Then I'll read over the code, write up a talk about > > how I think it could be improved, and come visit the group and > give > > the talk. After I go home again, I'l write up a book chapter about > > the code, incorporating the points that the PM group raised when I > > gave the talk. > > > > Guidelines for code contributions are at > > > > http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/contribute.html > > > > I need your contributions no later than January 17th. To > contribute, > > send code to: mjd at plover.com. Questions? Send to mjd at plover.com. > > > > Thanks a lot for having me in to speak. > > > > For questions about this or any other upcoming meeting, please email > Andy > > Lester at andy at petdance.com. > > > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > > The information in this email and any attachments may contain > > confidential information that is intended solely for the > > attention and use of the named addressee(s). This message or > > any part thereof must not be disclosed, copied, distributed or > > retained by any person without authorization from the addressee. > > If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender > > immediately, and delete this message. > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > > _______________________________________________ > > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > > > > > -- > Ryan Platte > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > -- Ryan Platte From ehs at pobox.com Wed Jan 25 08:27:15 2006 From: ehs at pobox.com (Edward Summers) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 07:27:15 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Fwd: [Chicago-talk] MEETING/TALK: Feb 6, 2006 with Mark Jason Dom inus In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601250508n986ad40ib049c00c186d787d@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f1a1dcb0601250508n986ad40ib049c00c186d787d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5F1F7710-DE1B-42B2-BC23-7C879FF2C933@pobox.com> On Jan 25, 2006, at 7:08 AM, Ryan Platte wrote: > Marcel Molina (of 37signals and a Rails committer) is slated to speak > on testing, both Ruby's test/unit and testing in Rails. > > I'm really looking forward to it. Great, I must've missed the announcement for this too. Is there going to be a formal announcement that can be ciculated more widely? //Ed From qzzzq1 at gmail.com Wed Jan 25 10:26:51 2006 From: qzzzq1 at gmail.com (aberant) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:26:51 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Fwd: [Chicago-talk] MEETING/TALK: Feb 6, 2006 with Mark Jason Dom inus In-Reply-To: <5F1F7710-DE1B-42B2-BC23-7C879FF2C933@pobox.com> References: <2f1a1dcb0601250508n986ad40ib049c00c186d787d@mail.gmail.com> <5F1F7710-DE1B-42B2-BC23-7C879FF2C933@pobox.com> Message-ID: <507da57a0601250726l679e01e3i9579e0ea6fef921a@mail.gmail.com> i'm really looking forward to hearing this guy! i've needed to beef up my testing for the longest time... On 1/25/06, Edward Summers wrote: > On Jan 25, 2006, at 7:08 AM, Ryan Platte wrote: > > Marcel Molina (of 37signals and a Rails committer) is slated to speak > > on testing, both Ruby's test/unit and testing in Rails. > > > > I'm really looking forward to it. > > Great, I must've missed the announcement for this too. Is there going > to be a formal announcement that can be ciculated more widely? > > //Ed > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > From ryan at platte.name Wed Jan 25 13:39:40 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:39:40 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Fwd: [Chicago-talk] MEETING/TALK: Feb 6, 2006 with Mark Jason Dom inus In-Reply-To: <5F1F7710-DE1B-42B2-BC23-7C879FF2C933@pobox.com> References: <2f1a1dcb0601250508n986ad40ib049c00c186d787d@mail.gmail.com> <5F1F7710-DE1B-42B2-BC23-7C879FF2C933@pobox.com> Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601251039qd697b87x27a8187a21218fa4@mail.gmail.com> I'll write one up tonight, then we can paper the world with it. Sorry for not getting the word out quicker. On 1/25/06, Edward Summers wrote: > On Jan 25, 2006, at 7:08 AM, Ryan Platte wrote: > > Marcel Molina (of 37signals and a Rails committer) is slated to speak > > on testing, both Ruby's test/unit and testing in Rails. > > > > I'm really looking forward to it. > > Great, I must've missed the announcement for this too. Is there going > to be a formal announcement that can be ciculated more widely? > > //Ed > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > -- Ryan Platte From ryan at platte.name Thu Jan 26 12:40:06 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:40:06 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Testing, testing, 1, 2, 3: Marcel Molina on testing in Rails Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601260940w2b7aea90gcd225649b6ae3109@mail.gmail.com> Great news! Spread the word! Our February meeting will be quite a treat. Marcel Molina, one of the esteemed Rails committers and member of the 37signals crew, will be speaking about Ruby's test/unit library and its use in testing Rails applications. Marcel has some excellent insights and recently taught a course at the Big Nerd Ranch, so come with your learning hat on. ThoughtWorks is graciously providing pizza and pop, so please RSVP so they can get a good headcount: http://ruby.meetup.com/55/events/4824278/ We'll be working through a coding exercise or two, so bring your laptop if you can. February 6, 6:30 pm ThoughtWorks, Desplaines and Washington in Chicago http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=N+Desplaines+St+%26+W+Washington+Blvd,+Chicago,+IL+60661&btnG=Search&ll=41.883429,-87.644162&spn=0.014538,0.036736 Directions: Take the Washington exit off of 94/90. We are at the corner of Desplaines and Washington. The building entrance on Desplaines will be open until 7. The elevators will be on until 7 as well so that people can get to the 6th floor. After that, please feel free to call Joe at 614/906-1394 and he'll have someone get you. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to shout out to the list. We're on it and certainly you aren't the only one with the question. Hope to see you there! Bring a friend! Everyone, please post this announcement anywhere where people might like to hear about this event. -- Ryan Platte From ryan at platte.name Thu Jan 26 12:46:07 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 11:46:07 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Fwd: [Chicago-talk] MEETING/TALK: Feb 6, 2006 with Mark Jason Dom inus In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601251039qd697b87x27a8187a21218fa4@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f1a1dcb0601250508n986ad40ib049c00c186d787d@mail.gmail.com> <5F1F7710-DE1B-42B2-BC23-7C879FF2C933@pobox.com> <2f1a1dcb0601251039qd697b87x27a8187a21218fa4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601260946v75203983nd9b76a082c191824@mail.gmail.com> OK, written. Now paper the world. :-) On 1/25/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > I'll write one up tonight, then we can paper the world with it. Sorry > for not getting the word out quicker. > > On 1/25/06, Edward Summers wrote: > > On Jan 25, 2006, at 7:08 AM, Ryan Platte wrote: > > > Marcel Molina (of 37signals and a Rails committer) is slated to speak > > > on testing, both Ruby's test/unit and testing in Rails. > > > > > > I'm really looking forward to it. > > > > Great, I must've missed the announcement for this too. Is there going > > to be a formal announcement that can be ciculated more widely? > > > > //Ed > > _______________________________________________ > > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > > > > > -- > Ryan Platte > -- Ryan Platte From ehs at pobox.com Thu Jan 26 13:43:05 2006 From: ehs at pobox.com (Ed Summers) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:43:05 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Fwd: [Chicago-talk] MEETING/TALK: Feb 6, 2006 with Mark Jason Dom inus In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601260946v75203983nd9b76a082c191824@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f1a1dcb0601250508n986ad40ib049c00c186d787d@mail.gmail.com> <5F1F7710-DE1B-42B2-BC23-7C879FF2C933@pobox.com> <2f1a1dcb0601251039qd697b87x27a8187a21218fa4@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601260946v75203983nd9b76a082c191824@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 1/26/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > OK, written. Now paper the world. :-) Thanks Ryan! From hubrix at gmail.com Thu Jan 26 16:40:45 2006 From: hubrix at gmail.com (Mark Alexander Friedgan) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 15:40:45 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Talk about TupleSpaces Message-ID: At our last Ruby Group meeting I proposed to give a talk on Tuple Spaces. If people are interested I'd like to figure out when this would be appropriate so I can prepare a presentation. Mark Friedgan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060126/c241cf67/attachment.htm From jbalint at gmail.com Thu Jan 26 16:50:34 2006 From: jbalint at gmail.com (Jess Balint) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:50:34 -0500 Subject: [Chirb] Talk about TupleSpaces In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <43d9442c.10a7bd74.6670.3e42@mx.gmail.com> Hi Mark, I would be interested in this. I don't normally attend the meetings but would make a special exception for this. ;) Jess _____ From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Mark Alexander Friedgan Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 4:41 PM To: chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org Subject: [Chirb] Talk about TupleSpaces At our last Ruby Group meeting I proposed to give a talk on Tuple Spaces. If people are interested I'd like to figure out when this would be appropriate so I can prepare a presentation. Mark Friedgan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060126/e3105f51/attachment.htm From dave.hoover at gmail.com Thu Jan 26 16:55:42 2006 From: dave.hoover at gmail.com (Dave Hoover) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 15:55:42 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Talk about TupleSpaces In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <11c8704e0601261355r7416f41fr14c84b0b22fc81d9@mail.gmail.com> > At our last Ruby Group meeting I proposed to give a talk on Tuple Spaces. If > people are interested I'd like to figure out when this would be appropriate > so I can prepare a presentation. I am very interested in Tuple Spaces. But rather than a presentation, can we do a code fest instead? (with maybe a 10-minute primer and some pre-assigned reading to get us oriented) From hubrix at gmail.com Thu Jan 26 17:04:11 2006 From: hubrix at gmail.com (Mark Alexander Friedgan) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:04:11 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Talk about TupleSpaces In-Reply-To: References: <11c8704e0601261355r7416f41fr14c84b0b22fc81d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Sadly there isnt much reading to be had on tuple spaces, there are some > small articles and some documentation in Japanese. > But you have given me a lovely idea for the second part of the > presentation. If we can get everyone who wants to play on the same router > we can build something nifty. > > Mark > > On 1/26/06, Dave Hoover wrote: > > > > > At our last Ruby Group meeting I proposed to give a talk on Tuple > > Spaces. If > > > people are interested I'd like to figure out when this would be > > appropriate > > > so I can prepare a presentation. > > > > I am very interested in Tuple Spaces. But rather than a presentation, > > can we do a code fest instead? (with maybe a 10-minute primer and > > some pre-assigned reading to get us oriented) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060126/ca79862c/attachment.htm From ryan at platte.name Thu Jan 26 17:06:59 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:06:59 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Talk about TupleSpaces In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601261406o73b48eb4t93924565ff27708d@mail.gmail.com> Yes, thanks for the ping, Mark. I *think* the schedule is open for March -- can anyone confirm or deny? On 1/26/06, Mark Alexander Friedgan wrote: > At our last Ruby Group meeting I proposed to give a talk on Tuple Spaces. If > people are interested I'd like to figure out when this would be appropriate > so I can prepare a presentation. -- Ryan Platte From qzzzq1 at gmail.com Thu Jan 26 17:06:58 2006 From: qzzzq1 at gmail.com (aberant) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:06:58 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Talk about TupleSpaces In-Reply-To: References: <11c8704e0601261355r7416f41fr14c84b0b22fc81d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <507da57a0601261406n21968eccydd8991e7be3caf17@mail.gmail.com> i'm totally down for learning/playing with tuple spaces... On 1/26/06, Mark Alexander Friedgan wrote: > > > > Sadly there isnt much reading to be had on tuple spaces, there are some > small articles and some documentation in Japanese. > > But you have given me a lovely idea for the second part of the > presentation. If we can get everyone who wants to play on the same router > > we can build something nifty. > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > On 1/26/06, Dave Hoover < dave.hoover at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > At our last Ruby Group meeting I proposed to give a talk on Tuple > Spaces. If > > > > people are interested I'd like to figure out when this would be > appropriate > > > > so I can prepare a presentation. > > > > > > I am very interested in Tuple Spaces. But rather than a presentation, > > > can we do a code fest instead? (with maybe a 10-minute primer and > > > some pre-assigned reading to get us oriented) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > > > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > > From dave.hoover at gmail.com Thu Jan 26 17:12:12 2006 From: dave.hoover at gmail.com (Dave Hoover) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:12:12 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Talk about TupleSpaces In-Reply-To: References: <11c8704e0601261355r7416f41fr14c84b0b22fc81d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11c8704e0601261412r4cfb1b76tb042abe67c344a2f@mail.gmail.com> Mark, > If we can get everyone who wants to play on the same router > we can build something nifty. Yes, that sounds excellent. Perhaps you and some of us ThoughtWorkers could meet some lunch/evening to test the ThoughtWorks network to see if it can handle your nifty idea. Or if you could provide some sort of test script, we could test it ourselves. :-) From rubygroup at johnwlong.com Thu Jan 26 18:37:31 2006 From: rubygroup at johnwlong.com (John W. Long) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:37:31 -0500 Subject: [Chirb] Talk about TupleSpaces In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601261406o73b48eb4t93924565ff27708d@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f1a1dcb0601261406o73b48eb4t93924565ff27708d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43D95D3B.7040306@johnwlong.com> Ryan Platte wrote: > Yes, thanks for the ping, Mark. I *think* the schedule is open for > March -- can anyone confirm or deny? The only thing that I'm aware of that might be potentially scheduled is a talk by Joe O'brien that he wanted to do based on a book (?) he is writing. He mentioned this in November and I think we had tentatively planned on February, but we haven't talked about it since then. -- John Long http://wiseheartdesign.com From JOBrien at thoughtworks.com Thu Jan 26 19:07:37 2006 From: JOBrien at thoughtworks.com (Joe O'Brien) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:07:37 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Talk about TupleSpaces In-Reply-To: <43D95D3B.7040306@johnwlong.com> Message-ID: > a talk by Joe O'brien that he wanted to do based on a book (?) he is I was under the impression we had talked about April for this. No matter. March is the month we are trying to get Jim Weirich up. I still haven't received any more notifications on donations so I'm not positive we can swing this anyway. Can we say March as a backup, definite in April? Ryan - this would be your call anyway. -Joe //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - // Joe O'Brien, artisan // ThoughtWorks, Inc. // http://blog.objo.com // Y! id = joeobjo, gmail = obrien.joe // cell: 614\906-1394 //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060126/cb0a1b98/attachment.htm From JOBrien at thoughtworks.com Thu Jan 26 19:23:46 2006 From: JOBrien at thoughtworks.com (Joe O'Brien) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:23:46 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Talk about TupleSpaces In-Reply-To: Message-ID: BTW - I for one am also dying to hear this presentation. I've been mucking with Rinda since you mentioned it at the last meeting. I'm dying for someone to show me what some of this Japanese documentation says :-). -Joe //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - // Joe O'Brien, artisan // ThoughtWorks, Inc. // http://blog.objo.com // Y! id = joeobjo, gmail = obrien.joe // cell: 614\906-1394 //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060126/3dafd763/attachment.htm From hubrix at hubrix.com Thu Jan 26 19:30:16 2006 From: hubrix at hubrix.com (Mark Alexander Friedgan) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:30:16 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Talk about TupleSpaces In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well with this kind of response, I started working on it. I think I am going to aim for about 30 minutes of talking about 30 minutes of hacking something together. Mark On 1/26/06, Joe O'Brien wrote: > > > BTW - I for one am also dying to hear this presentation. I've been > mucking with Rinda since you mentioned it at the last meeting. I'm dying > for someone to show me what some of this Japanese documentation says :-). > > -Joe > > //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - > // Joe O'Brien, artisan > // ThoughtWorks, Inc. > // http://blog.objo.com > // Y! id = joeobjo, gmail = obrien.joe > // cell: 614\906-1394 > //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From kennethkunz at gmail.com Fri Jan 27 10:07:47 2006 From: kennethkunz at gmail.com (Ken Kunz) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:07:47 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Talk about TupleSpaces In-Reply-To: <11c8704e0601261700m56e10fcdye16dd711cb73bc2e@mail.gmail.com> References: <11c8704e0601261700m56e10fcdye16dd711cb73bc2e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6d0bcfa60601270707l733eaed5l4377bc62d1b23b69@mail.gmail.com> On 1/26/06, Dave Hoover wrote: > Great to hear. Perhaps we should consider an additional meeting in > February or March to accomodate the demand for learning about > TupleSpaces without bumping any of our scheduled speakers? My 2 cents... let's stick to once a month. Being a suburbanite family guy, I won't be able to make it more often than that. -Ken From dave.hoover at gmail.com Fri Jan 27 10:13:02 2006 From: dave.hoover at gmail.com (Dave Hoover) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:13:02 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Talk about TupleSpaces In-Reply-To: <6d0bcfa60601270707l733eaed5l4377bc62d1b23b69@mail.gmail.com> References: <11c8704e0601261700m56e10fcdye16dd711cb73bc2e@mail.gmail.com> <6d0bcfa60601270707l733eaed5l4377bc62d1b23b69@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11c8704e0601270713m49fcc65p41a820a2d06c207@mail.gmail.com> On 1/27/06, Ken Kunz wrote: > On 1/26/06, Dave Hoover wrote: > > Great to hear. Perhaps we should consider an additional meeting in > > February or March to accomodate the demand for learning about > > TupleSpaces without bumping any of our scheduled speakers? > > My 2 cents... let's stick to once a month. Being a suburbanite family > guy, I won't be able to make it more often than that. I'm one of those guys too (3 kids in Wheaton), so I hear you. :-) I just don't want to wait until April, but I will if I have to. :-| From ryan at platte.name Fri Jan 27 10:19:10 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:19:10 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Talk about TupleSpaces In-Reply-To: <11c8704e0601270713m49fcc65p41a820a2d06c207@mail.gmail.com> References: <11c8704e0601261700m56e10fcdye16dd711cb73bc2e@mail.gmail.com> <6d0bcfa60601270707l733eaed5l4377bc62d1b23b69@mail.gmail.com> <11c8704e0601270713m49fcc65p41a820a2d06c207@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601270719j65ada59cw931d01d5212cf659@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, I won't be scheduling regular meetings more than once a month without some enormous pressure and somebody else to coordinate -- 3 kids in Romeoville. So everybody, what about TupleSpaces in March, and either Joe or Jim Weirich in April? On 1/27/06, Dave Hoover wrote: > On 1/27/06, Ken Kunz wrote: > > My 2 cents... let's stick to once a month. Being a suburbanite family > > guy, I won't be able to make it more often than that. > > I'm one of those guys too (3 kids in Wheaton), so I hear you. :-) > > I just don't want to wait until April, but I will if I have to. :-| -- Ryan Platte From hubrix at gmail.com Fri Jan 27 11:03:59 2006 From: hubrix at gmail.com (Mark Alexander Friedgan) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:03:59 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Talk about TupleSpaces In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601270719j65ada59cw931d01d5212cf659@mail.gmail.com> References: <11c8704e0601261700m56e10fcdye16dd711cb73bc2e@mail.gmail.com> <6d0bcfa60601270707l733eaed5l4377bc62d1b23b69@mail.gmail.com> <11c8704e0601270713m49fcc65p41a820a2d06c207@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601270719j65ada59cw931d01d5212cf659@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: It's up to everyone I guess. I'm basically done with the presentation and demo code so whenever people are ready to hear it I'll be glad to give it. Mark On 1/27/06, Ryan Platte wrote: > > Yeah, I won't be scheduling regular meetings more than once a month > without some enormous pressure and somebody else to coordinate -- 3 > kids in Romeoville. > > So everybody, what about TupleSpaces in March, and either Joe or Jim > Weirich in April? > > On 1/27/06, Dave Hoover wrote: > > On 1/27/06, Ken Kunz wrote: > > > My 2 cents... let's stick to once a month. Being a suburbanite family > > > guy, I won't be able to make it more often than that. > > > > I'm one of those guys too (3 kids in Wheaton), so I hear you. :-) > > > > I just don't want to wait until April, but I will if I have to. :-| > > -- > Ryan Platte > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll be dragging a couple other United people along... see you there. -Ken From JOBrien at thoughtworks.com Fri Jan 27 12:36:08 2006 From: JOBrien at thoughtworks.com (Joe O'Brien) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:36:08 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Let's get Jim Weirich here Message-ID: Ok, I'll try and do this again (I really hate sending these out). We need to raise some money to get Jim here. I don't say this simply because I'm a friend. Jim is by far one of the best speakers I've seen. A lot of that has to do with his outright passion for Ruby. I need to know by this next meeting if this is possible. Jim isn't exactly waiting for our call. I'm not trying to make him any money, just cover his expenses. Personally, I think he has every right to solicit a speaking fee, but doesn't for users groups that are trying to remain free. Jim Weirich(onestepback.org) is one of the original pillars in the Ruby community going way back. He's one of the creators of Ruby Gems and the creator of Rake. He has an exceptional speaking style and an intimate knowledge of the language we have all grown to love. Estimates: Airfare: ~ 150-200 (depending on if we make him drive) Hotel: ~ 100-130 Food: ~ 40 So in total we are trying to raise about 300-370. If we could get companies to sponsor parts of it (say the airfare, etc...) we will get mentions in all of the announcements for the meeting as well as a chance to talk about your company at the event. Let me know either in private or here on the list. Thanks again, -Joe //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - // Joe O'Brien, artisan // ThoughtWorks, Inc. // http://blog.objo.com // Y! id = joeobjo, gmail = obrien.joe // cell: 614\906-1394 //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll try to lobby a > couple people to pitch-in. > > Looking forward to the Feb. meeting... I'll be dragging a couple other > United people along... see you there. > > -Ken > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > > From marcel at vernix.org Fri Jan 27 14:12:41 2006 From: marcel at vernix.org (Marcel Molina Jr.) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:12:41 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Let's get Jim Weirich here In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060127191241.GQ27797@chicago.vernix.org> On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 11:36:08AM -0600, Joe O'Brien wrote: > Ok, I'll try and do this again (I really hate sending these out). > > We need to raise some money to get Jim here. I don't say this simply > because I'm a friend. Jim is by far one of the best speakers I've seen. > A lot of that has to do with his outright passion for Ruby. I need to > know by this next meeting if this is possible. Jim isn't exactly waiting > for our call. I'm not trying to make him any money, just cover his > expenses. Personally, I think he has every right to solicit a speaking > fee, but doesn't for users groups that are trying to remain free. > > > > Jim Weirich(onestepback.org) is one of the original pillars in the Ruby > community going way back. He's one of the creators of Ruby Gems and the > creator of Rake. He has an exceptional speaking style and an intimate > knowledge of the language we have all grown to love. > Estimates: > Airfare: ~ 150-200 (depending on if we make him drive) > Hotel: ~ 100-130 > Food: ~ 40 > So in total we are trying to raise about 300-370. If we could get > companies to sponsor parts of it (say the airfare, etc...) we will get > mentions in all of the announcements for the meeting as well as a chance > to talk about your company at the event. > Let me know either in private or here on the list. > > At the last meeting I went to we had circa 30 people. 10 bucks a person isn't much but I wouldn't expect everyone to pony up, so I'll get this started by pledging 50 bucks. I can second that Jim is a great presenter. Great guy, deep Ruby and programming knowledge. It would be a real treat to have him if we can. Let's make this happen. marcel -- Marcel Molina Jr. From cremes.devlist at mac.com Fri Jan 27 14:10:55 2006 From: cremes.devlist at mac.com (cremes.devlist@mac.com) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:10:55 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Let's get Jim Weirich here In-Reply-To: <20060127191241.GQ27797@chicago.vernix.org> References: <20060127191241.GQ27797@chicago.vernix.org> Message-ID: <8240448D-A83E-4093-88E7-2ADECB091F2D@mac.com> On Jan 27, 2006, at 1:12 PM, Marcel Molina Jr. wrote: > On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 11:36:08AM -0600, Joe O'Brien wrote: >> Ok, I'll try and do this again (I really hate sending these out). >> >> We need to raise some money to get Jim here. I don't say this >> simply >> because I'm a friend. Jim is by far one of the best speakers >> I've seen. >> A lot of that has to do with his outright passion for Ruby. I >> need to >> know by this next meeting if this is possible. Jim isn't >> exactly waiting >> for our call. I'm not trying to make him any money, just cover >> his >> expenses. Personally, I think he has every right to solicit a >> speaking >> fee, but doesn't for users groups that are trying to remain free. >> >> >> >> Jim Weirich(onestepback.org) is one of the original pillars in >> the Ruby >> community going way back. He's one of the creators of Ruby >> Gems and the >> creator of Rake. He has an exceptional speaking style and an >> intimate >> knowledge of the language we have all grown to love. >> Estimates: >> Airfare: ~ 150-200 (depending on if we make him drive) >> Hotel: ~ 100-130 >> Food: ~ 40 >> So in total we are trying to raise about 300-370. If we could get >> companies to sponsor parts of it (say the airfare, etc...) we >> will get >> mentions in all of the announcements for the meeting as well as >> a chance >> to talk about your company at the event. >> Let me know either in private or here on the list. >> >> > > At the last meeting I went to we had circa 30 people. 10 bucks a > person isn't > much but I wouldn't expect everyone to pony up, so I'll get this > started by > pledging 50 bucks. I can second that Jim is a great presenter. > Great guy, > deep Ruby and programming knowledge. It would be a real treat to > have him if > we can. Let's make this happen. I'll pledge another $25. Let me know how, when and where to deliver it. cr From dchelimsky at gmail.com Sun Jan 29 09:06:58 2006 From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 08:06:58 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] possible speaker for March Message-ID: <57c63afe0601290606y5110199cw4fabb678f5ef3d47@mail.gmail.com> There's a possibility that Dave Astels, author of "Test Driven Development: A Practical Guide" may be in town for the March meeting and he has expressed an interest in speaking on Behavior Driven Development and rSpec, a BDD focused specification framework written in Ruby. The timing is not definite yet, but his interest in speaking if he is in town is definite. Dave's been speaking at conferences about BDD (agile2005, SD Best Practices 2005) and is going to be speaking at SD West and Canada on Rails this year. We'd be getting a free preview of his upcoming talks. I realize that there are a couple of other possibilities for the March meeting, but I'd highly recommend inviting Dave to speak if he is in town. If there's enough interest, I'll put Dave and Ryan in touch to coordinate. Thanks, David Chelimsky From ryan at platte.name Sun Jan 29 10:04:59 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:04:59 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] possible speaker for March In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0601290606y5110199cw4fabb678f5ef3d47@mail.gmail.com> References: <57c63afe0601290606y5110199cw4fabb678f5ef3d47@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601290704l1575d2f8v5a4753154c594e5e@mail.gmail.com> That's very exciting news. I'd absolutely love to have Dave Astels talk -- to me that'd be on the same stratum of cool as having Jim Weirich, and if I'm not mistaken, the scheduling for Jim is open-ended. I'd like to make this the first choice, and have TupleSpaces as the fallback if Dave can't make it. Anyone who disagrees, please speak up. At this rate, we're not going to run out of killer meetings for a long time! Marcel on testing Rails Dave Astels on BDD Mark on TupleSpaces Jim Weirich on whatever Jim Weirich jolly well pleases Joe on his book But whatever will we do in July?!?! ;-) On 1/29/06, David Chelimsky wrote: > There's a possibility that Dave Astels, author of "Test Driven > Development: A Practical Guide" may be in town for the March meeting > and he has expressed an interest in speaking on Behavior Driven > Development and rSpec, a BDD focused specification framework written > in Ruby. The timing is not definite yet, but his interest in speaking > if he is in town is definite. > > Dave's been speaking at conferences about BDD (agile2005, SD Best > Practices 2005) and is going to be speaking at SD West and Canada on > Rails this year. We'd be getting a free preview of his upcoming talks. > I realize that there are a couple of other possibilities for the March > meeting, but I'd highly recommend inviting Dave to speak if he is in > town. > > If there's enough interest, I'll put Dave and Ryan in touch to coordinate. > > Thanks, > David Chelimsky -- Ryan Platte From peter at oaktop.com Sun Jan 29 11:32:26 2006 From: peter at oaktop.com (Peter K Chan) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:32:26 -0500 Subject: [Chirb] possible speaker for March Message-ID: Hi David, Thanks for the tip! I am very interested. Peter -----Original Message----- From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of David Chelimsky Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 8:07 AM To: chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org Subject: [Chirb] possible speaker for March There's a possibility that Dave Astels, author of "Test Driven Development: A Practical Guide" may be in town for the March meeting and he has expressed an interest in speaking on Behavior Driven Development and rSpec, a BDD focused specification framework written in Ruby. The timing is not definite yet, but his interest in speaking if he is in town is definite. Dave's been speaking at conferences about BDD (agile2005, SD Best Practices 2005) and is going to be speaking at SD West and Canada on Rails this year. We'd be getting a free preview of his upcoming talks. I realize that there are a couple of other possibilities for the March meeting, but I'd highly recommend inviting Dave to speak if he is in town. If there's enough interest, I'll put Dave and Ryan in touch to coordinate. Thanks, David Chelimsky _______________________________________________ ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list From JOBrien at thoughtworks.com Sun Jan 29 12:09:43 2006 From: JOBrien at thoughtworks.com (Joe O'Brien) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:09:43 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] possible speaker for March In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601290704l1575d2f8v5a4753154c594e5e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Let's see if we can get them both to speak. Object Mentor has pledged to support the airfare for Jim Weirich. I'm also at about 100 in individual pledges so we can pretty much sponsor his hotel. We still have one other company offering sponsorship (or the possibility of). If they take care of the hotel, we will be fine without having to resort to individual donations. Jim is a definite for the March meeting. Let's see if Dave is coming to town afterall. -Joe //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - // Joe O'Brien, artisan // ThoughtWorks, Inc. // http://blog.objo.com // Y! id = joeobjo, gmail = obrien.joe // cell: 614\906-1394 //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org wrote on 01/29/2006 09:04:59 AM: > That's very exciting news. I'd absolutely love to have Dave Astels > talk -- to me that'd be on the same stratum of cool as having Jim > Weirich, and if I'm not mistaken, the scheduling for Jim is > open-ended. > > I'd like to make this the first choice, and have TupleSpaces as the > fallback if Dave can't make it. Anyone who disagrees, please speak up. > > At this rate, we're not going to run out of killer meetings for a long time! > > Marcel on testing Rails > Dave Astels on BDD > Mark on TupleSpaces > Jim Weirich on whatever Jim Weirich jolly well pleases > Joe on his book > > But whatever will we do in July?!?! ;-) > > On 1/29/06, David Chelimsky wrote: > > There's a possibility that Dave Astels, author of "Test Driven > > Development: A Practical Guide" may be in town for the March meeting > > and he has expressed an interest in speaking on Behavior Driven > > Development and rSpec, a BDD focused specification framework written > > in Ruby. The timing is not definite yet, but his interest in speaking > > if he is in town is definite. > > > > Dave's been speaking at conferences about BDD (agile2005, SD Best > > Practices 2005) and is going to be speaking at SD West and Canada on > > Rails this year. We'd be getting a free preview of his upcoming talks. > > I realize that there are a couple of other possibilities for the March > > meeting, but I'd highly recommend inviting Dave to speak if he is in > > town. > > > > If there's enough interest, I'll put Dave and Ryan in touch to coordinate. > > > > Thanks, > > David Chelimsky > > -- > Ryan Platte > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060129/8e96b3a6/attachment.htm From dchelimsky at gmail.com Sun Jan 29 12:27:30 2006 From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:27:30 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] possible speaker for March In-Reply-To: References: <2f1a1dcb0601290704l1575d2f8v5a4753154c594e5e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57c63afe0601290927q40317968l1b638528d6c8751@mail.gmail.com> Are you suggesting they both speak in March if that's the only date that works for Dave? On 1/29/06, Joe O'Brien wrote: > > Let's see if we can get them both to speak. > > Object Mentor has pledged to support the airfare for Jim Weirich. I'm also > at about 100 in individual pledges so we can pretty much sponsor his hotel. > We still have one other company offering sponsorship (or the possibility > of). If they take care of the hotel, we will be fine without having to > resort to individual donations. > > Jim is a definite for the March meeting. Let's see if Dave is coming to > town afterall. > > -Joe > > //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - > // Joe O'Brien, artisan > // ThoughtWorks, Inc. > // http://blog.objo.com > // Y! id = joeobjo, gmail = obrien.joe > // cell: 614\906-1394 > //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - > > chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org wrote on > 01/29/2006 09:04:59 AM: > > > > That's very exciting news. I'd absolutely love to have Dave Astels > > talk -- to me that'd be on the same stratum of cool as having Jim > > Weirich, and if I'm not mistaken, the scheduling for Jim is > > open-ended. > > > > I'd like to make this the first choice, and have TupleSpaces as the > > fallback if Dave can't make it. Anyone who disagrees, please speak up. > > > > At this rate, we're not going to run out of killer meetings for a long > time! > > > > Marcel on testing Rails > > Dave Astels on BDD > > Mark on TupleSpaces > > Jim Weirich on whatever Jim Weirich jolly well pleases > > Joe on his book > > > > But whatever will we do in July?!?! ;-) > > > > On 1/29/06, David Chelimsky wrote: > > > There's a possibility that Dave Astels, author of "Test Driven > > > Development: A Practical Guide" may be in town for the March meeting > > > and he has expressed an interest in speaking on Behavior Driven > > > Development and rSpec, a BDD focused specification framework written > > > in Ruby. The timing is not definite yet, but his interest in speaking > > > if he is in town is definite. > > > > > > Dave's been speaking at conferences about BDD (agile2005, SD Best > > > Practices 2005) and is going to be speaking at SD West and Canada on > > > Rails this year. We'd be getting a free preview of his upcoming talks. > > > I realize that there are a couple of other possibilities for the March > > > meeting, but I'd highly recommend inviting Dave to speak if he is in > > > town. > > > > > > If there's enough interest, I'll put Dave and Ryan in touch to > coordinate. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > David Chelimsky > > > > -- > > Ryan Platte > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > > From hubrix at gmail.com Sun Jan 29 13:08:22 2006 From: hubrix at gmail.com (Mark Alexander Friedgan) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:08:22 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] possible speaker for March In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0601290927q40317968l1b638528d6c8751@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f1a1dcb0601290704l1575d2f8v5a4753154c594e5e@mail.gmail.com> <57c63afe0601290927q40317968l1b638528d6c8751@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I am going to suggest I do my talk then in late february since our february meeting is early on anyway. On 1/29/06, David Chelimsky wrote: > > Are you suggesting they both speak in March if that's the only date > that works for Dave? > > On 1/29/06, Joe O'Brien wrote: > > > > Let's see if we can get them both to speak. > > > > Object Mentor has pledged to support the airfare for Jim Weirich. I'm > also > > at about 100 in individual pledges so we can pretty much sponsor his > hotel. > > We still have one other company offering sponsorship (or the possibility > > of). If they take care of the hotel, we will be fine without having to > > resort to individual donations. > > > > Jim is a definite for the March meeting. Let's see if Dave is coming to > > town afterall. > > > > -Joe > > > > //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - > > // Joe O'Brien, artisan > > // ThoughtWorks, Inc. > > // http://blog.objo.com > > // Y! id = joeobjo, gmail = obrien.joe > > // cell: 614\906-1394 > > //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - > > > > chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org wrote on > > 01/29/2006 09:04:59 AM: > > > > > > > That's very exciting news. I'd absolutely love to have Dave Astels > > > talk -- to me that'd be on the same stratum of cool as having Jim > > > Weirich, and if I'm not mistaken, the scheduling for Jim is > > > open-ended. > > > > > > I'd like to make this the first choice, and have TupleSpaces as the > > > fallback if Dave can't make it. Anyone who disagrees, please speak > up. > > > > > > At this rate, we're not going to run out of killer meetings for a > long > > time! > > > > > > Marcel on testing Rails > > > Dave Astels on BDD > > > Mark on TupleSpaces > > > Jim Weirich on whatever Jim Weirich jolly well pleases > > > Joe on his book > > > > > > But whatever will we do in July?!?! ;-) > > > > > > On 1/29/06, David Chelimsky wrote: > > > > There's a possibility that Dave Astels, author of "Test Driven > > > > Development: A Practical Guide" may be in town for the March > meeting > > > > and he has expressed an interest in speaking on Behavior Driven > > > > Development and rSpec, a BDD focused specification framework > written > > > > in Ruby. The timing is not definite yet, but his interest in > speaking > > > > if he is in town is definite. > > > > > > > > Dave's been speaking at conferences about BDD (agile2005, SD Best > > > > Practices 2005) and is going to be speaking at SD West and Canada > on > > > > Rails this year. We'd be getting a free preview of his upcoming > talks. > > > > I realize that there are a couple of other possibilities for the > March > > > > meeting, but I'd highly recommend inviting Dave to speak if he is > in > > > > town. > > > > > > > > If there's enough interest, I'll put Dave and Ryan in touch to > > coordinate. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > David Chelimsky > > > > > > -- > > > Ryan Platte > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > > > > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060129/a18e98a6/attachment-0001.htm From dave.hoover at gmail.com Sun Jan 29 14:05:56 2006 From: dave.hoover at gmail.com (Dave Hoover) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:05:56 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] possible speaker for March In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0601290927q40317968l1b638528d6c8751@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f1a1dcb0601290704l1575d2f8v5a4753154c594e5e@mail.gmail.com> <57c63afe0601290927q40317968l1b638528d6c8751@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11c8704e0601291105y737ed56cl1ecbd2331ff705eb@mail.gmail.com> > Are you suggesting they both speak in March if that's the only date > that works for Dave? I believe Dave Astels will be around in April too. From JOBrien at thoughtworks.com Sun Jan 29 14:14:50 2006 From: JOBrien at thoughtworks.com (Joe O'Brien) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:14:50 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] possible speaker for March In-Reply-To: <11c8704e0601291105y737ed56cl1ecbd2331ff705eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > Are you suggesting they both speak in March if that's the only date > > that works for Dave? > > I believe Dave Astels will be around in April too. I'm not bringing down Dave's abilities at all (I'm very interested in BDD and have been using Rspec quite a bit). I would hate, however, to bring Jim up and only get to hear part of what he has to say. I would like to see them both speak, and if we can split it into Jim in March and Dave in April, even better. But it did sound like everyone wanted to hear Dave (as do I). I'm kind of at a loss and was just presenting an idea. We are already commited to Jim in March so we can't push him off. Ryan? //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - // Joe O'Brien, artisan // ThoughtWorks, Inc. // http://blog.objo.com // Y! id = joeobjo, gmail = obrien.joe // cell: 614\906-1394 //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060129/fbac6813/attachment.htm From dchelimsky at gmail.com Sun Jan 29 15:32:01 2006 From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:32:01 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] possible speaker for March In-Reply-To: References: <11c8704e0601291105y737ed56cl1ecbd2331ff705eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57c63afe0601291232j440e9bf3h2e01fcae3084476c@mail.gmail.com> Dave's schedule is going to be contingent on timing a gig with a client. I believe we'll know more about the schedule later this week. I know that he'd be happy to talk at any time that he's in town, but he's offering to do so because he's going to be in town anyhow, so if we're going to take advantage of that, we have to do so when he's here. So here's my suggestion: if Jim has not already booked his flight, let's ask him if he's open to April and willing to wait a couple of days to finalize things. If that is not possible, and Dave is only available in March, we'll have a decision to make. If either Jim or Dave can do April instead, problem solved. Joe - is what I proposed above reasonable? David On 1/29/06, Joe O'Brien wrote: > > > > Are you suggesting they both speak in March if that's the only date > > > that works for Dave? > > > > I believe Dave Astels will be around in April too. > > I'm not bringing down Dave's abilities at all (I'm very interested in BDD > and have been using Rspec quite a bit). I would hate, however, to bring Jim > up and only get to hear part of what he has to say. I would like to see > them both speak, and if we can split it into Jim in March and Dave in April, > even better. > > But it did sound like everyone wanted to hear Dave (as do I). I'm kind of > at a loss and was just presenting an idea. > > We are already commited to Jim in March so we can't push him off. > > Ryan? > > > //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - > // Joe O'Brien, artisan > // ThoughtWorks, Inc. > // http://blog.objo.com > // Y! id = joeobjo, gmail = obrien.joe > // cell: 614\906-1394 > //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > > From dave.hoover at gmail.com Sun Jan 29 15:41:16 2006 From: dave.hoover at gmail.com (Dave Hoover) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:41:16 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] possible speaker for March In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0601291232j440e9bf3h2e01fcae3084476c@mail.gmail.com> References: <11c8704e0601291105y737ed56cl1ecbd2331ff705eb@mail.gmail.com> <57c63afe0601291232j440e9bf3h2e01fcae3084476c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11c8704e0601291241kd967322qe8e25c6df277d318@mail.gmail.com> > Dave's schedule is going to be contingent on timing a gig with a > client. I believe we'll know more about the schedule later this week. I pinged Astels today and he told me he would be in town from mid-Feb to mid-Apr. From ryan at platte.name Sun Jan 29 15:44:10 2006 From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:44:10 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] possible speaker for March In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0601291232j440e9bf3h2e01fcae3084476c@mail.gmail.com> References: <11c8704e0601291105y737ed56cl1ecbd2331ff705eb@mail.gmail.com> <57c63afe0601291232j440e9bf3h2e01fcae3084476c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0601291244w255cb776u3b28fcf037f3db4a@mail.gmail.com> Thank you for typing all that out, David. What I took from our earlier discussions was that we were planning on Mark's TupleSpaces talk in March, and Jim in April. When did Jim move to March? Ack! Mark, are you still available to do TupleSpaces whenever the dust settles from the Agile Celebrity Scheduling Death Match we're having here? Your talk is important too... If that's ok, Mark, then what David said is where we're at. Otherwise, we need to figure that out with you, Mar. On 1/29/06, David Chelimsky wrote: > Dave's schedule is going to be contingent on timing a gig with a > client. I believe we'll know more about the schedule later this week. > I know that he'd be happy to talk at any time that he's in town, but > he's offering to do so because he's going to be in town anyhow, so if > we're going to take advantage of that, we have to do so when he's > here. > > So here's my suggestion: if Jim has not already booked his flight, > let's ask him if he's open to April and willing to wait a couple of > days to finalize things. If that is not possible, and Dave is only > available in March, we'll have a decision to make. If either Jim or > Dave can do April instead, problem solved. > > Joe - is what I proposed above reasonable? > > David > > On 1/29/06, Joe O'Brien wrote: > > > > > > Are you suggesting they both speak in March if that's the only date > > > > that works for Dave? > > > > > > I believe Dave Astels will be around in April too. > > > > I'm not bringing down Dave's abilities at all (I'm very interested in BDD > > and have been using Rspec quite a bit). I would hate, however, to bring Jim > > up and only get to hear part of what he has to say. I would like to see > > them both speak, and if we can split it into Jim in March and Dave in April, > > even better. > > > > But it did sound like everyone wanted to hear Dave (as do I). I'm kind of > > at a loss and was just presenting an idea. > > > > We are already commited to Jim in March so we can't push him off. > > > > Ryan? > > > > > > //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - > > // Joe O'Brien, artisan > > // ThoughtWorks, Inc. > > // http://blog.objo.com > > // Y! id = joeobjo, gmail = obrien.joe > > // cell: 614\906-1394 > > //- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - > > _______________________________________________ > > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list > -- Ryan Platte From mlist at dakic.com Mon Jan 30 00:04:49 2006 From: mlist at dakic.com (mlist@dakic.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:04:49 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] Let's get Jim Weirich here In-Reply-To: <8240448D-A83E-4093-88E7-2ADECB091F2D@mac.com> Message-ID: <002101c6255a$b2ac52c0$220110ac@DAKICONLINE> How about next meeting, let's say majority of us brings $25 and I bet we will have most if not all. Those who work at fancy companies can double that ;) Zeljko > I'll pledge another $25. Let me know how, when and where to > deliver it. > > cr From dchelimsky at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 06:42:42 2006 From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 05:42:42 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] possible speaker for March In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0601291244w255cb776u3b28fcf037f3db4a@mail.gmail.com> References: <11c8704e0601291105y737ed56cl1ecbd2331ff705eb@mail.gmail.com> <57c63afe0601291232j440e9bf3h2e01fcae3084476c@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601291244w255cb776u3b28fcf037f3db4a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57c63afe0601300342w73af6c0r5d85f37b0037acc4@mail.gmail.com> I just re-read Joe's note saying that Jim couldn't be moved (I missed that part - sorry Joe). Dave (Hoover) says Dave (Astels) is in town in early April. I've got an email out to Dave (Astels) asking him to confirm that he's still interested in doing the talk then. I'll get back to the list as soon as I hear from Dave. David From dchelimsky at gmail.com Mon Jan 30 09:47:41 2006 From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:47:41 -0600 Subject: [Chirb] possible speaker for March In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0601300342w73af6c0r5d85f37b0037acc4@mail.gmail.com> References: <11c8704e0601291105y737ed56cl1ecbd2331ff705eb@mail.gmail.com> <57c63afe0601291232j440e9bf3h2e01fcae3084476c@mail.gmail.com> <2f1a1dcb0601291244w255cb776u3b28fcf037f3db4a@mail.gmail.com> <57c63afe0601300342w73af6c0r5d85f37b0037acc4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57c63afe0601300647r3d678dc0me3f734e07e7e9770@mail.gmail.com> OK. I just heard from Dave Astels. He is going to be in town between mid-Feb and mid-April, but not full time. The details should get solidified this week. I'll follow up when I know more. David On 1/30/06, David Chelimsky wrote: > I just re-read Joe's note saying that Jim couldn't be moved (I missed > that part - sorry Joe). Dave (Hoover) says Dave (Astels) is in town in > early April. I've got an email out to Dave (Astels) asking him to > confirm that he's still interested in doing the talk then. I'll get > back to the list as soon as I hear from Dave. > > David >