From ryan at platte.name  Thu Jun  1 10:37:03 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:37:03 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] June meeting
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0606010737w6db7294ey2472448bc54828b8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Chirbers,

Just wanted to let you all know that we've postponed the Chirb meeting to
June 12. We're working on the lineup, will announce more as soon as we have
firm plans, which should be soon.

Thanks!

-- 
Ryan Platte
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060601/9c772a65/attachment.htm 

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Thu Jun  1 11:58:28 2006
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:58:28 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] June meeting
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0606010737w6db7294ey2472448bc54828b8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0606010737w6db7294ey2472448bc54828b8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0606010858o766e0a67scff01ea8ab07bfbc@mail.gmail.com>

Alsak Hellesoy, Dave Astels (assuming he's in town, which we are
assuming right now) and I would like to do a BDD/rspec talk if
everyone is interested.

On 6/1/06, Ryan Platte <ryan at platte.name> wrote:
> Hi Chirbers,
>
> Just wanted to let you all know that we've postponed the Chirb meeting to
> June 12. We're working on the lineup, will announce more as soon as we have
> firm plans, which should be soon.
>
>  Thanks!
>
> --
> Ryan Platte
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
>

From cremes.devlist at mac.com  Thu Jun  1 12:20:59 2006
From: cremes.devlist at mac.com (cremes.devlist at mac.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:20:59 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] June meeting
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0606010858o766e0a67scff01ea8ab07bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0606010737w6db7294ey2472448bc54828b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0606010858o766e0a67scff01ea8ab07bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BC661B1C-BFBF-45B2-A4C8-88DFE623B976@mac.com>


On Jun 1, 2006, at 10:58 AM, David Chelimsky wrote:

> Alsak Hellesoy, Dave Astels (assuming he's in town, which we are
> assuming right now) and I would like to do a BDD/rspec talk if
> everyone is interested.
>
> On 6/1/06, Ryan Platte <ryan at platte.name> wrote:
>> Hi Chirbers,
>>
>> Just wanted to let you all know that we've postponed the Chirb  
>> meeting to
>> June 12. We're working on the lineup, will announce more as soon  
>> as we have
>> firm plans, which should be soon.
>>
>>  Thanks!

This would be hard to pass up.


From ryan at platte.name  Thu Jun  1 13:02:07 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:02:07 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] June meeting
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0606010858o766e0a67scff01ea8ab07bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0606010737w6db7294ey2472448bc54828b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0606010858o766e0a67scff01ea8ab07bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0606011002t1429df12t8f53290bf41b0de4@mail.gmail.com>

Sold! That would be absolutely killer. Thanks, David!

On 6/1/06, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Alsak Hellesoy, Dave Astels (assuming he's in town, which we are
> assuming right now) and I would like to do a BDD/rspec talk if
> everyone is interested.
>

-- 
Ryan Platte
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060601/1c7feb05/attachment.htm 

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Thu Jun  1 16:38:57 2006
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:38:57 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] June meeting
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0606011002t1429df12t8f53290bf41b0de4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0606010737w6db7294ey2472448bc54828b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0606010858o766e0a67scff01ea8ab07bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0606011002t1429df12t8f53290bf41b0de4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0606011338m42f1d556o8a80a6ed45ccf14b@mail.gmail.com>

OK. I've confirmed it with Aslak and Dave. We're still working out the
format, but we'll probably each talk some with some sort of exercise
at the end.

No guarantees, but we can probably finish up w/ a "panel discussion"
over beers at nearest watering hole.

Looking forward to it!

Cheers,
David

On 6/1/06, Ryan Platte <ryan at platte.name> wrote:
> Sold! That would be absolutely killer. Thanks, David!
>
>
> On 6/1/06, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Alsak Hellesoy, Dave Astels (assuming he's in town, which we are
> > assuming right now) and I would like to do a BDD/rspec talk if
> > everyone is interested.
> >
>
> --
> Ryan Platte
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
>

From ryan at platte.name  Thu Jun  1 17:12:40 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:12:40 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] June meeting
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0606011338m42f1d556o8a80a6ed45ccf14b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0606010737w6db7294ey2472448bc54828b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0606010858o766e0a67scff01ea8ab07bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0606011002t1429df12t8f53290bf41b0de4@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0606011338m42f1d556o8a80a6ed45ccf14b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0606011412n71185f9y4e7ea1ccd84d174e@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you, gentlemen, I personally can't wait!

On 6/1/06, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> OK. I've confirmed it with Aslak and Dave. We're still working out the
> format, but we'll probably each talk some with some sort of exercise at the
> end.
>

-- 
Ryan Platte
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060601/3fcc2acf/attachment.htm 

From cremes.devlist at mac.com  Thu Jun  1 20:20:17 2006
From: cremes.devlist at mac.com (cremes.devlist at mac.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 19:20:17 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] June meeting
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0606011412n71185f9y4e7ea1ccd84d174e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0606010737w6db7294ey2472448bc54828b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0606010858o766e0a67scff01ea8ab07bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0606011002t1429df12t8f53290bf41b0de4@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0606011338m42f1d556o8a80a6ed45ccf14b@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0606011412n71185f9y4e7ea1ccd84d174e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <352FB7CB-AD19-4265-AD6F-90DA3B9D5969@mac.com>


> On 6/1/06, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> OK. I've confirmed it with Aslak and Dave. We're still working out  
> the format, but we'll probably each talk some with some sort of  
> exercise at the end.

I've heard that BDD is TDD's bitch. Prove me wrong next Tuesday.

:-) for the humor impaired.

cr

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060601/264b9e09/attachment.htm 

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Thu Jun  1 22:37:00 2006
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 21:37:00 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] June meeting
In-Reply-To: <352FB7CB-AD19-4265-AD6F-90DA3B9D5969@mac.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0606010737w6db7294ey2472448bc54828b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0606010858o766e0a67scff01ea8ab07bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0606011002t1429df12t8f53290bf41b0de4@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0606011338m42f1d556o8a80a6ed45ccf14b@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0606011412n71185f9y4e7ea1ccd84d174e@mail.gmail.com>
	<352FB7CB-AD19-4265-AD6F-90DA3B9D5969@mac.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0606011937v769f8791g97492a54d5387fcb@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/1/06, cremes.devlist at mac.com <cremes.devlist at mac.com> wrote:
> I've heard that BDD is TDD's bitch. Prove me wrong next Tuesday.

It's more like TDD's inner child.

And it's Monday, the 12th.

From ryan at platte.name  Fri Jun  2 00:51:17 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 23:51:17 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] June meeting
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0606011937v769f8791g97492a54d5387fcb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0606010737w6db7294ey2472448bc54828b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0606010858o766e0a67scff01ea8ab07bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0606011002t1429df12t8f53290bf41b0de4@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0606011338m42f1d556o8a80a6ed45ccf14b@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0606011412n71185f9y4e7ea1ccd84d174e@mail.gmail.com>
	<352FB7CB-AD19-4265-AD6F-90DA3B9D5969@mac.com>
	<57c63afe0606011937v769f8791g97492a54d5387fcb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0606012151kb524a59p973e4db9b87ce221@mail.gmail.com>

Ouch, Chuck, there doesn't seem to be too much of your 2-line email left
standing. I guess he didn't debunk your sig...

On 6/1/06, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 6/1/06, cremes.devlist at mac.com <cremes.devlist at mac.com> wrote:
> > I've heard that BDD is TDD's bitch. Prove me wrong next Tuesday.
>
> It's more like TDD's inner child.
>
> And it's Monday, the 12th.
>

-- 
Ryan Platte
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060601/80e88725/attachment.htm 

From cremes.devlist at mac.com  Fri Jun  2 08:35:36 2006
From: cremes.devlist at mac.com (cremes.devlist at mac.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 07:35:36 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] June meeting
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0606012151kb524a59p973e4db9b87ce221@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0606010737w6db7294ey2472448bc54828b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0606010858o766e0a67scff01ea8ab07bfbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0606011002t1429df12t8f53290bf41b0de4@mail.gmail.com>
	<57c63afe0606011338m42f1d556o8a80a6ed45ccf14b@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0606011412n71185f9y4e7ea1ccd84d174e@mail.gmail.com>
	<352FB7CB-AD19-4265-AD6F-90DA3B9D5969@mac.com>
	<57c63afe0606011937v769f8791g97492a54d5387fcb@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0606012151kb524a59p973e4db9b87ce221@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <702E5DAA-96F1-498D-8F89-40E299FD73B1@mac.com>


On Jun 1, 2006, at 11:51 PM, Ryan Platte wrote:

> Ouch, Chuck, there doesn't seem to be too much of your 2-line email  
> left standing. I guess he didn't debunk your sig...
>
> On 6/1/06, David Chelimsky < dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/1/06, cremes.devlist at mac.com <cremes.devlist at mac.com> wrote:
> > I've heard that BDD is TDD's bitch. Prove me wrong next Tuesday.
>
> It's more like TDD's inner child.
>
> And it's Monday, the 12th.

:-)

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060602/da968c54/attachment-0001.htm 

From JScruggs at thoughtworks.com  Mon Jun  5 16:47:22 2006
From: JScruggs at thoughtworks.com (Jake Scruggs)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:47:22 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Please RSVP for June Meeting
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0606011412n71185f9y4e7ea1ccd84d174e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OFA1CC56CC.D1E917C6-ON86257184.0071BDC9-86257184.0072357A@thoughtworks.com>

As usual, I need a headcount for pizza. 

http://www.chirb.org/uger/event/show/2

-Jake
P.S. Hey David, let me know if you want to add anything to the body of the 
Event -- I threw it together fast.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060605/0bf4810f/attachment.htm 

From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Mon Jun  5 19:37:03 2006
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 18:37:03 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Please RSVP for June Meeting
In-Reply-To: <OFA1CC56CC.D1E917C6-ON86257184.0071BDC9-86257184.0072357A@thoughtworks.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0606011412n71185f9y4e7ea1ccd84d174e@mail.gmail.com>
	<OFA1CC56CC.D1E917C6-ON86257184.0071BDC9-86257184.0072357A@thoughtworks.com>
Message-ID: <57c63afe0606051637u42dc3823ue0394a0ed213ccd9@mail.gmail.com>

Jake - thanks for putting the meeting info together. Please correct
Aslak's first name and add a note for ppl to bring their laptops as
there will be an exercise.

Cheers,
David

On 6/5/06, Jake Scruggs <JScruggs at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
>
> As usual, I need a headcount for pizza.
>
> http://www.chirb.org/uger/event/show/2
>
> -Jake
> P.S. Hey David, let me know if you want to add anything to the body of the
> Event -- I threw it together fast.
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
>

From cremes.devlist at mac.com  Tue Jun 13 14:53:22 2006
From: cremes.devlist at mac.com (cremes.devlist at mac.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 13:53:22 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] really enjoyed the June meeting
Message-ID: <8C0B9715-F1D8-40C9-A9EC-71088D6AA5A1@mac.com>

I'd like to thank Alsak Hellesoy, Dave Astels and David Chelimsky for  
presenting Behavior Driven Development to us yesterday. At first I  
thought a lot of it was obvious (I asked the question asking if BDD  
was just a bit of semantic sleight of hand), but after playing with  
Rspec for a little bit I have a better appreciation for its  
"viewpoint." I've been having a bit of a difficult time wrapping my  
head around TDD and have found the Kent Beck book on the topic to be  
pretty useless. I think I already understand BDD better than TDD  
which is a nice little accomplishment.

I was particularly impressed by the Mock demonstration. Now that's  
how mock objects should work! The setup was brain-dead simple and  
well, that alone is worthy of praise. I think a lot of tools get  
ignored because they are too hard to configure and/or use. No such  
problem here.

Again, thanks for taking the time to do the talk. Also, thanks again  
to Thoughtworks for hosting all of us and thanks to the usual  
suspects for handling the logistics.

cr

From aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com  Tue Jun 13 15:43:55 2006
From: aslak.hellesoy at gmail.com (aslak hellesoy)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:43:55 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] really enjoyed the June meeting
In-Reply-To: <8C0B9715-F1D8-40C9-A9EC-71088D6AA5A1@mac.com>
References: <8C0B9715-F1D8-40C9-A9EC-71088D6AA5A1@mac.com>
Message-ID: <8d961d900606131243h4b17c13bi2fa6395e44b7a6da@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for that cr,

A couple of features we didn't have time to demo:

* Rake integration => http://rspec.rubyforge.org/tools/rake.html
* Rake+RCov integration => http://rspec.rubyforge.org/tools/rcov.html
* Test::Unit => RSpec translation =>
http://rspec.rubyforge.org/tools/test2spec.html (still in progress)

For those of you who want to follow RSpec more closely I invite you to
subscribe to rspec-devel =>
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-devel (relatively low
traffic at the moment)

Cheers,
Aslak

On 6/13/06, cremes.devlist at mac.com <cremes.devlist at mac.com> wrote:
> I'd like to thank Alsak Hellesoy, Dave Astels and David Chelimsky for
> presenting Behavior Driven Development to us yesterday. At first I
> thought a lot of it was obvious (I asked the question asking if BDD
> was just a bit of semantic sleight of hand), but after playing with
> Rspec for a little bit I have a better appreciation for its
> "viewpoint." I've been having a bit of a difficult time wrapping my
> head around TDD and have found the Kent Beck book on the topic to be
> pretty useless. I think I already understand BDD better than TDD
> which is a nice little accomplishment.
>
> I was particularly impressed by the Mock demonstration. Now that's
> how mock objects should work! The setup was brain-dead simple and
> well, that alone is worthy of praise. I think a lot of tools get
> ignored because they are too hard to configure and/or use. No such
> problem here.
>
> Again, thanks for taking the time to do the talk. Also, thanks again
> to Thoughtworks for hosting all of us and thanks to the usual
> suspects for handling the logistics.
>
> cr
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>

From ryan at platte.name  Tue Jun 13 16:04:17 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:04:17 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] really enjoyed the June meeting
In-Reply-To: <8C0B9715-F1D8-40C9-A9EC-71088D6AA5A1@mac.com>
References: <8C0B9715-F1D8-40C9-A9EC-71088D6AA5A1@mac.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0606131304u47057332t907139acbd4cabb1@mail.gmail.com>

I echo Chuck's thanks, Aslak, Dave, and David. rSpec is happenin' stuff and
I hope it succeeds in opening the world of spec-first development to a much
wider audience.

Extra reading: for more sentence-style, example-oriented Ruby specs, have a
look at Brian Marick's recent blog post:

http://www.testing.com/cgi-bin/blog/2006/06/09#mock-style

On 6/13/06, cremes.devlist at mac.com <cremes.devlist at mac.com> wrote:
>
> I'd like to thank Alsak Hellesoy, Dave Astels and David Chelimsky for
> presenting Behavior Driven Development to us yesterday.


-- 
Ryan Platte
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060613/5e6323c4/attachment.htm 

From cremes.devlist at mac.com  Tue Jun 13 16:05:53 2006
From: cremes.devlist at mac.com (cremes.devlist at mac.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:05:53 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] really enjoyed the June meeting
In-Reply-To: <8d961d900606131243h4b17c13bi2fa6395e44b7a6da@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8C0B9715-F1D8-40C9-A9EC-71088D6AA5A1@mac.com>
	<8d961d900606131243h4b17c13bi2fa6395e44b7a6da@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <92BDC4ED-8D87-431C-AD16-282BEE6C814D@mac.com>

Subscribed!

cr

(BTW, my name is Chuck Remes... I sign things "cr" as a hold-over  
from typing class in high school back in '87.)

On Jun 13, 2006, at 2:43 PM, aslak hellesoy wrote:

> Thanks for that cr,
>
> A couple of features we didn't have time to demo:
>
> * Rake integration => http://rspec.rubyforge.org/tools/rake.html
> * Rake+RCov integration => http://rspec.rubyforge.org/tools/rcov.html
> * Test::Unit => RSpec translation =>
> http://rspec.rubyforge.org/tools/test2spec.html (still in progress)
>
> For those of you who want to follow RSpec more closely I invite you to
> subscribe to rspec-devel =>
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-devel (relatively low
> traffic at the moment)
>
> Cheers,
> Aslak
>
> On 6/13/06, cremes.devlist at mac.com <cremes.devlist at mac.com> wrote:
>> I'd like to thank Alsak Hellesoy, Dave Astels and David Chelimsky for
>> presenting Behavior Driven Development to us yesterday. At first I
>> thought a lot of it was obvious (I asked the question asking if BDD
>> was just a bit of semantic sleight of hand), but after playing with
>> Rspec for a little bit I have a better appreciation for its
>> "viewpoint." I've been having a bit of a difficult time wrapping my
>> head around TDD and have found the Kent Beck book on the topic to be
>> pretty useless. I think I already understand BDD better than TDD
>> which is a nice little accomplishment.
>>
>> I was particularly impressed by the Mock demonstration. Now that's
>> how mock objects should work! The setup was brain-dead simple and
>> well, that alone is worthy of praise. I think a lot of tools get
>> ignored because they are too hard to configure and/or use. No such
>> problem here.
>>
>> Again, thanks for taking the time to do the talk. Also, thanks again
>> to Thoughtworks for hosting all of us and thanks to the usual
>> suspects for handling the logistics.
>>
>> cr
>> _______________________________________________
>> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>>
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list


From renzo_borgatti at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 13 17:14:11 2006
From: renzo_borgatti at yahoo.com (Renzo Borgatti)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:14:11 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] really enjoyed the June meeting
In-Reply-To: <8C0B9715-F1D8-40C9-A9EC-71088D6AA5A1@mac.com>
References: <8C0B9715-F1D8-40C9-A9EC-71088D6AA5A1@mac.com>
Message-ID: <7D3B4533-55A8-442B-B493-8D5F28931B91@yahoo.com>

I'd like also to thanks our speakers for the interesting  
presentation! I've found that the same concept of a "web" of  
collaborating components that Alsak pointed out is expressed here:

http://www.jmock.org/oopsla2004.pdf

and the author are ThoughtWorkers (UK) again! They call it Need- 
Driven developing and beside the Java examples it seems to me that  
the idea behind is the same (just the mocking part of rSpec). They  
advocate the use of JMock as the mocking framework leaving the  
programmer with the only choice to automate everything with some kind  
of xUnit. Of course this is the shortcoming addresseed by rSpec. IMHO  
this is a nice reading to understand BDD concepts.

Thanks again,
Renzo

On Jun 13, 2006, at 1:53 PM, cremes.devlist at mac.com wrote:
> I'd like to thank Alsak Hellesoy, Dave Astels and David Chelimsky for
> presenting Behavior Driven Development to us yesterday. At first I
> thought a lot of it was obvious (I asked the question asking if BDD
> was just a bit of semantic sleight of hand), but after playing with
> Rspec for a little bit I have a better appreciation for its
> "viewpoint." I've been having a bit of a difficult time wrapping my
> head around TDD and have found the Kent Beck book on the topic to be
> pretty useless. I think I already understand BDD better than TDD
> which is a nice little accomplishment.
>
> I was particularly impressed by the Mock demonstration. Now that's
> how mock objects should work! The setup was brain-dead simple and
> well, that alone is worthy of praise. I think a lot of tools get
> ignored because they are too hard to configure and/or use. No such
> problem here.
>
> Again, thanks for taking the time to do the talk. Also, thanks again
> to Thoughtworks for hosting all of us and thanks to the usual
> suspects for handling the logistics.
>
> cr
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list


From dave.hoover at gmail.com  Tue Jun 13 18:20:46 2006
From: dave.hoover at gmail.com (Dave Hoover)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:20:46 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] really enjoyed the June meeting
In-Reply-To: <7D3B4533-55A8-442B-B493-8D5F28931B91@yahoo.com>
References: <8C0B9715-F1D8-40C9-A9EC-71088D6AA5A1@mac.com>
	<7D3B4533-55A8-442B-B493-8D5F28931B91@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <11c8704e0606131520kc9650aida958ca6f9d50ef7@mail.gmail.com>

Renzo said:
> http://www.jmock.org/oopsla2004.pdf
> ... IMHO this is a nice reading to understand BDD concepts.

+1,  I highly recommend that paper if you want to hear more about the
approach that Aslak described.  I've found the approach to be
extremely powerful.

From jawolter at gmail.com  Wed Jun 14 12:30:17 2006
From: jawolter at gmail.com (Jonathan Andrew Wolter)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:30:17 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] invitation to a free wine and tech event for Chicago tech
	people
Message-ID: <32ca7bf50606140930r7e7afca6g6c23c1edd3a58d12@mail.gmail.com>

I forgot to announce this at Monday's meeting, but here are details about a
free wine + tech event on July 6th, 6:30-10pm at State Restaurant in Lincoln
Park.

My friend is organizing TECHcocktail.com to promote quarterly meetups like
this for the Chicago tech, entrepreneurship, and software community. RSVP
and read more at http://www.TECHcocktail.com <http://www.techcocktail.com/>

Also, if you're interested in that, I keep a blog of current events around
Chicago for tech people like us:
That's at www.TechSocial.com <http://www.techsocial.com/>

I have reservations about sending this out to the list, however another user
group told me, something like "Free wine and hanging out with coders and
entrepreneurs! That's not spam."

--Jonathan Andrew Wolter
http://TechSocial.com <http://techsocial.com/> - Chicago calendar of
software and entrepreneurship events
http://EconTechBlog.com - finance, entrepreneurship, globalization
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060614/31107c48/attachment-0001.htm 

From jbreen at centerpost.com  Wed Jun 14 15:11:44 2006
From: jbreen at centerpost.com (Jim Breen)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:11:44 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] TECHcoffee
Message-ID: <3C8E90FACF3F44459539D0AC4BD8CD73BF426E@CPOMAIL01.centerpostcorp.com>

Reading about the TECHcocktail event in the earlier post led me to
another unusual meetup experiment: TECHcoffee.  It's a 6:00 AM code fest
on Monday mornings.  Really.  The first one is next week.  There's even
a website: techcoffee.com, although the idea originated with this post
to the ChiPy
list:http://mail.python.org/pipermail/chicago/2006-June/000845.html.
The idea is apparently to get open-source hackers to dedicate some time
to coding just as you might meet a workout partner to exercise.   Rise
and shine.




-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060614/e05fe9c5/attachment.htm 

From ryan at platte.name  Wed Jun 14 17:21:01 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:21:01 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] TECHcoffee
In-Reply-To: <3C8E90FACF3F44459539D0AC4BD8CD73BF426E@CPOMAIL01.centerpostcorp.com>
References: <3C8E90FACF3F44459539D0AC4BD8CD73BF426E@CPOMAIL01.centerpostcorp.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0606141421l23119567tff455ce294673531@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, I wish there was something like that here out west. Sounds great.

Would anyone want to do this in Lisle? I bet I could schedule our conference
room, doubt there'd be any conflicts!

On 6/14/06, Jim Breen <jbreen at centerpost.com> wrote:
>
>  Reading about the TECHcocktail event in the earlier post led me to
> another unusual meetup experiment: TECHcoffee.  It's a 6:00 AM code fest on
> Monday mornings.  Really.  The first one is next week.  There's even a
> website: techcoffee.com, although the idea originated with this post to
> the ChiPy list:
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/chicago/2006-June/000845.html.  The idea
> is apparently to get open-source hackers to dedicate some time to coding
> just as you might meet a workout partner to exercise.   Rise and shine.
>

-- 
Ryan Platte
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060614/c71863de/attachment.htm 

From ianb at colorstudy.com  Wed Jun 14 17:48:00 2006
From: ianb at colorstudy.com (Ian Bicking)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:48:00 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] TECHcoffee
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0606141421l23119567tff455ce294673531@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3C8E90FACF3F44459539D0AC4BD8CD73BF426E@CPOMAIL01.centerpostcorp.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0606141421l23119567tff455ce294673531@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44908410.1030007@colorstudy.com>

Ryan Platte wrote:
> Wow, I wish there was something like that here out west. Sounds great.
> 
> Would anyone want to do this in Lisle? I bet I could schedule our 
> conference room, doubt there'd be any conflicts!

There were also several suburbanites who were interested on the ChiPy 
list.  The only problem was finding a group in the burbs who is actually 
close enough to get together.  But given enough people...


From chris.mcavoy at gmail.com  Mon Jun 19 17:48:40 2006
From: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com (Chris McAvoy)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:48:40 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Railsconf Car Pool?
Message-ID: <3096c19d0606191448y3e831b56j778e96e6bb147edb@mail.gmail.com>

Just got the following from the Railsconf organizers.  I was planning
on driving out to the Wyndham for the three days of confing.  Anyone
want to car pool to save some parking dough?

My only restriction is I need to leave a bit early on Saturday.  I'll
have to miss DHH's keynote.  Otherwise, I plan on going full tilt
boogie on Rails.

Chris

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com <jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com>
Date: Jun 19, 2006 4:23 PM
Subject: RailsConf 2006: Final Instructions
To: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com





Dear Chris,

Greetings! RailsConf 2006 is fast approaching and we look forward to
your attendance. I just wanted to review a few things prior to your
arrival.

1).  Make sure and confirm your hotel room with the Wyndham if
applicable- call (847-297-1234).  Use this phone number as well when
arriving at O'Hare for Wyndham Shuttle pickup at the airport.

2).  Venue Address: Wyndham O'Hare
                             6810 N.Mannheim Rd.
                             Rosemont, Illinois 60018

3).  If you haven't already make sure and join Wyndham By Request -
free internet in sleeping room and other amenities at no charge.  Go
to http://www.wyndham.com/wbr/benefits/main.wnt? for online
registration information.

4).  Parking is $19/day at the Wyndham O'Hare.  So, if you are coming
from the greater Chicago area I recommend taking the train to O'Hare
and then calling the Wyndham shuttle for pickup.  For those of you
flying in, there is no need to rent a car.  Everything you need
(restuarants, convenience store, etc..)is in walking distance from the
hotel.

5). Registration will run from 7:00 - 9:00 PM on Thursday evening June
22nd.  Late registration will run from 7:30 AM - 9:00 AM on Friday,
June 23rd.  At registration you will receive a RailsConf 2006
notebook, pen and T-shirt along with your RailsCon 2006 badge with
schedule.
6). Wireless internet will be available in the Grand Ballroom and
foyer for your convenience starting on Friday morning.  Please use the
bandwidth as needed.

7).  You have the opportunity to purchase audio/slides of RailsConf
2006 while at the conference.  The cost is $50 and can be paid either
with check(payable to Big Sky Technology) or cash.  We will begin
processing payment for the audio/slides on Saturday.  Note - we will
be video taping the panels and majority of the Keynotes at RailsConf.
The video portion will be made available for free at a later date via
RubyCentral.

7).  Starting on Friday morning, a continental breakfast, refreshment
breaks and a box lunch including a vegetarian option will be served at
RailsConf 2006.  Dinner will be on your own with several restaurants
available within walking distances as well as the restaurant at the
Wyndham.

8). For those of you arriving Thursday, there is going to be a room
setup for ad hoc/self-organizing presentations during the day on
Thursday, so if people have things they want to present or coding
activities they want to organize, they should come and sign up for a
slot.  The room available is a section of the ballroom. Activities
will start around 10:00 AM and go from there.

That is it!  We look forward to seeing you at RailsConf 2006!


All the Best,

Jay Zimmerman
RailsConf 2006
jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com

==========================================================================
** If you *do not* wish to receive these emails, please forward or
send a message to **
** removeme at acteva.com, and we'll remove you from the previte list. **
==========================================================================

From cohen.jeff at gmail.com  Tue Jun 20 21:52:08 2006
From: cohen.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Cohen)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:52:08 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Railsconf Car Pool?
In-Reply-To: <3096c19d0606191448y3e831b56j778e96e6bb147edb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3096c19d0606191448y3e831b56j778e96e6bb147edb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3d7e01550606201852h679e4390q9ce99760f4c8b7d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Chris,

I might be interested, but you didn't mention where you're coming from?  I'm
in Skokie.

Thanks,
Jeff

On 6/19/06, Chris McAvoy <chris.mcavoy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just got the following from the Railsconf organizers.  I was planning
> on driving out to the Wyndham for the three days of confing.  Anyone
> want to car pool to save some parking dough?
>
> My only restriction is I need to leave a bit early on Saturday.  I'll
> have to miss DHH's keynote.  Otherwise, I plan on going full tilt
> boogie on Rails.
>
> Chris
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com <jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com>
> Date: Jun 19, 2006 4:23 PM
> Subject: RailsConf 2006: Final Instructions
> To: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Chris,
>
> Greetings! RailsConf 2006 is fast approaching and we look forward to
> your attendance. I just wanted to review a few things prior to your
> arrival.
>
> 1).  Make sure and confirm your hotel room with the Wyndham if
> applicable- call (847-297-1234).  Use this phone number as well when
> arriving at O'Hare for Wyndham Shuttle pickup at the airport.
>
> 2).  Venue Address: Wyndham O'Hare
>                              6810 N.Mannheim Rd.
>                              Rosemont, Illinois 60018
>
> 3).  If you haven't already make sure and join Wyndham By Request -
> free internet in sleeping room and other amenities at no charge.  Go
> to http://www.wyndham.com/wbr/benefits/main.wnt? for online
> registration information.
>
> 4).  Parking is $19/day at the Wyndham O'Hare.  So, if you are coming
> from the greater Chicago area I recommend taking the train to O'Hare
> and then calling the Wyndham shuttle for pickup.  For those of you
> flying in, there is no need to rent a car.  Everything you need
> (restuarants, convenience store, etc..)is in walking distance from the
> hotel.
>
> 5). Registration will run from 7:00 - 9:00 PM on Thursday evening June
> 22nd.  Late registration will run from 7:30 AM - 9:00 AM on Friday,
> June 23rd.  At registration you will receive a RailsConf 2006
> notebook, pen and T-shirt along with your RailsCon 2006 badge with
> schedule.
> 6). Wireless internet will be available in the Grand Ballroom and
> foyer for your convenience starting on Friday morning.  Please use the
> bandwidth as needed.
>
> 7).  You have the opportunity to purchase audio/slides of RailsConf
> 2006 while at the conference.  The cost is $50 and can be paid either
> with check(payable to Big Sky Technology) or cash.  We will begin
> processing payment for the audio/slides on Saturday.  Note - we will
> be video taping the panels and majority of the Keynotes at RailsConf.
> The video portion will be made available for free at a later date via
> RubyCentral.
>
> 7).  Starting on Friday morning, a continental breakfast, refreshment
> breaks and a box lunch including a vegetarian option will be served at
> RailsConf 2006.  Dinner will be on your own with several restaurants
> available within walking distances as well as the restaurant at the
> Wyndham.
>
> 8). For those of you arriving Thursday, there is going to be a room
> setup for ad hoc/self-organizing presentations during the day on
> Thursday, so if people have things they want to present or coding
> activities they want to organize, they should come and sign up for a
> slot.  The room available is a section of the ballroom. Activities
> will start around 10:00 AM and go from there.
>
> That is it!  We look forward to seeing you at RailsConf 2006!
>
>
> All the Best,
>
> Jay Zimmerman
> RailsConf 2006
> jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com
>
> ==========================================================================
> ** If you *do not* wish to receive these emails, please forward or
> send a message to **
> ** removeme at acteva.com, and we'll remove you from the previte list. **
> ==========================================================================
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060620/a5e91f6c/attachment.html 

From tomkersten98 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 20 22:42:51 2006
From: tomkersten98 at gmail.com (Tom Kersten)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 21:42:51 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Railsconf Car Pool?
In-Reply-To: <3d7e01550606201852h679e4390q9ce99760f4c8b7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3096c19d0606191448y3e831b56j778e96e6bb147edb@mail.gmail.com>
	<3d7e01550606201852h679e4390q9ce99760f4c8b7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20c8f9e00606201942p3afcf81u63c1b1283abf2d73@mail.gmail.com>

i may also...I live further up north, but work in Glenview so I would
be willing to meet in/around Glenview/Skokie. I would really like to
go to the whole deal on Saturday, but I am sure I can work out
something that day if nothing else (taxi, etc).

Let me know what you think...

-tom

On 6/20/06, Jeff Cohen <cohen.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> I might be interested, but you didn't mention where you're coming from?  I'm
> in Skokie.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
> On 6/19/06, Chris McAvoy <chris.mcavoy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Just got the following from the Railsconf organizers.  I was planning
> > on driving out to the Wyndham for the three days of confing.  Anyone
> > want to car pool to save some parking dough?
> >
> > My only restriction is I need to leave a bit early on Saturday.  I'll
> > have to miss DHH's keynote.  Otherwise, I plan on going full tilt
> > boogie on Rails.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com < jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com>
> > Date: Jun 19, 2006 4:23 PM
> > Subject: RailsConf 2006: Final Instructions
> > To: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Chris,
> >
> > Greetings! RailsConf 2006 is fast approaching and we look forward to
> > your attendance. I just wanted to review a few things prior to your
> > arrival.
> >
> > 1).  Make sure and confirm your hotel room with the Wyndham if
> > applicable- call (847-297-1234).  Use this phone number as well when
> > arriving at O'Hare for Wyndham Shuttle pickup at the airport.
> >
> > 2).  Venue Address: Wyndham O'Hare
> >                              6810 N.Mannheim Rd.
> >                              Rosemont, Illinois 60018
> >
> > 3).  If you haven't already make sure and join Wyndham By Request -
> > free internet in sleeping room and other amenities at no charge.  Go
> > to http://www.wyndham.com/wbr/benefits/main.wnt? for
> online
> > registration information.
> >
> > 4).  Parking is $19/day at the Wyndham O'Hare.  So, if you are coming
> > from the greater Chicago area I recommend taking the train to O'Hare
> > and then calling the Wyndham shuttle for pickup.  For those of you
> > flying in, there is no need to rent a car.  Everything you need
> > (restuarants, convenience store, etc..)is in walking distance from the
> > hotel.
> >
> > 5). Registration will run from 7:00 - 9:00 PM on Thursday evening June
> > 22nd.  Late registration will run from 7:30 AM - 9:00 AM on Friday,
> > June 23rd.  At registration you will receive a RailsConf 2006
> > notebook, pen and T-shirt along with your RailsCon 2006 badge with
> > schedule.
> > 6). Wireless internet will be available in the Grand Ballroom and
> > foyer for your convenience starting on Friday morning.  Please use the
> > bandwidth as needed.
> >
> > 7).  You have the opportunity to purchase audio/slides of RailsConf
> > 2006 while at the conference.  The cost is $50 and can be paid either
> > with check(payable to Big Sky Technology) or cash.  We will begin
> > processing payment for the audio/slides on Saturday.  Note - we will
> > be video taping the panels and majority of the Keynotes at RailsConf.
> > The video portion will be made available for free at a later date via
> > RubyCentral.
> >
> > 7).  Starting on Friday morning, a continental breakfast, refreshment
> > breaks and a box lunch including a vegetarian option will be served at
> > RailsConf 2006.  Dinner will be on your own with several restaurants
> > available within walking distances as well as the restaurant at the
> > Wyndham.
> >
> > 8). For those of you arriving Thursday, there is going to be a room
> > setup for ad hoc/self-organizing presentations during the day on
> > Thursday, so if people have things they want to present or coding
> > activities they want to organize, they should come and sign up for a
> > slot.  The room available is a section of the ballroom. Activities
> > will start around 10:00 AM and go from there.
> >
> > That is it!  We look forward to seeing you at RailsConf 2006!
> >
> >
> > All the Best,
> >
> > Jay Zimmerman
> > RailsConf 2006
> > jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com
> >
> >
> ==========================================================================
> > ** If you *do not* wish to receive these emails, please forward or
> > send a message to **
> > ** removeme at acteva.com, and we'll remove you from the previte list. **
> >
> ==========================================================================
> > _______________________________________________
> > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> >
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
>

From chris.mcavoy at gmail.com  Tue Jun 20 22:46:53 2006
From: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com (Chris McAvoy)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 21:46:53 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Railsconf Car Pool?
In-Reply-To: <20c8f9e00606201942p3afcf81u63c1b1283abf2d73@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3096c19d0606191448y3e831b56j778e96e6bb147edb@mail.gmail.com>
	<3d7e01550606201852h679e4390q9ce99760f4c8b7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<20c8f9e00606201942p3afcf81u63c1b1283abf2d73@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3096c19d0606201946k40b205a5sea928eda519c4ad2@mail.gmail.com>

Ah...yeah, it would help if I said where I'm at.  I'm on the North
Side, around Lawerence and Western.  I think I'm probably on my own
for this stuff.  My schedule is super weird this weekend.  Sorry guys.

Chris

On 6/20/06, Tom Kersten <tomkersten98 at gmail.com> wrote:
> i may also...I live further up north, but work in Glenview so I would
> be willing to meet in/around Glenview/Skokie. I would really like to
> go to the whole deal on Saturday, but I am sure I can work out
> something that day if nothing else (taxi, etc).
>
> Let me know what you think...
>
> -tom
>
> On 6/20/06, Jeff Cohen <cohen.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > I might be interested, but you didn't mention where you're coming from?  I'm
> > in Skokie.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff
> >
> > On 6/19/06, Chris McAvoy <chris.mcavoy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Just got the following from the Railsconf organizers.  I was planning
> > > on driving out to the Wyndham for the three days of confing.  Anyone
> > > want to car pool to save some parking dough?
> > >
> > > My only restriction is I need to leave a bit early on Saturday.  I'll
> > > have to miss DHH's keynote.  Otherwise, I plan on going full tilt
> > > boogie on Rails.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com < jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com>
> > > Date: Jun 19, 2006 4:23 PM
> > > Subject: RailsConf 2006: Final Instructions
> > > To: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Chris,
> > >
> > > Greetings! RailsConf 2006 is fast approaching and we look forward to
> > > your attendance. I just wanted to review a few things prior to your
> > > arrival.
> > >
> > > 1).  Make sure and confirm your hotel room with the Wyndham if
> > > applicable- call (847-297-1234).  Use this phone number as well when
> > > arriving at O'Hare for Wyndham Shuttle pickup at the airport.
> > >
> > > 2).  Venue Address: Wyndham O'Hare
> > >                              6810 N.Mannheim Rd.
> > >                              Rosemont, Illinois 60018
> > >
> > > 3).  If you haven't already make sure and join Wyndham By Request -
> > > free internet in sleeping room and other amenities at no charge.  Go
> > > to http://www.wyndham.com/wbr/benefits/main.wnt? for
> > online
> > > registration information.
> > >
> > > 4).  Parking is $19/day at the Wyndham O'Hare.  So, if you are coming
> > > from the greater Chicago area I recommend taking the train to O'Hare
> > > and then calling the Wyndham shuttle for pickup.  For those of you
> > > flying in, there is no need to rent a car.  Everything you need
> > > (restuarants, convenience store, etc..)is in walking distance from the
> > > hotel.
> > >
> > > 5). Registration will run from 7:00 - 9:00 PM on Thursday evening June
> > > 22nd.  Late registration will run from 7:30 AM - 9:00 AM on Friday,
> > > June 23rd.  At registration you will receive a RailsConf 2006
> > > notebook, pen and T-shirt along with your RailsCon 2006 badge with
> > > schedule.
> > > 6). Wireless internet will be available in the Grand Ballroom and
> > > foyer for your convenience starting on Friday morning.  Please use the
> > > bandwidth as needed.
> > >
> > > 7).  You have the opportunity to purchase audio/slides of RailsConf
> > > 2006 while at the conference.  The cost is $50 and can be paid either
> > > with check(payable to Big Sky Technology) or cash.  We will begin
> > > processing payment for the audio/slides on Saturday.  Note - we will
> > > be video taping the panels and majority of the Keynotes at RailsConf.
> > > The video portion will be made available for free at a later date via
> > > RubyCentral.
> > >
> > > 7).  Starting on Friday morning, a continental breakfast, refreshment
> > > breaks and a box lunch including a vegetarian option will be served at
> > > RailsConf 2006.  Dinner will be on your own with several restaurants
> > > available within walking distances as well as the restaurant at the
> > > Wyndham.
> > >
> > > 8). For those of you arriving Thursday, there is going to be a room
> > > setup for ad hoc/self-organizing presentations during the day on
> > > Thursday, so if people have things they want to present or coding
> > > activities they want to organize, they should come and sign up for a
> > > slot.  The room available is a section of the ballroom. Activities
> > > will start around 10:00 AM and go from there.
> > >
> > > That is it!  We look forward to seeing you at RailsConf 2006!
> > >
> > >
> > > All the Best,
> > >
> > > Jay Zimmerman
> > > RailsConf 2006
> > > jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com
> > >
> > >
> > ==========================================================================
> > > ** If you *do not* wish to receive these emails, please forward or
> > > send a message to **
> > > ** removeme at acteva.com, and we'll remove you from the previte list. **
> > >
> > ==========================================================================
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> > >
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>

From jbreen at centerpost.com  Wed Jun 21 18:54:57 2006
From: jbreen at centerpost.com (Jim Breen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:54:57 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Railsconf Car Pool?
In-Reply-To: <3096c19d0606201946k40b205a5sea928eda519c4ad2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3C8E90FACF3F44459539D0AC4BD8CD73CE749F@CPOMAIL01.centerpostcorp.com>

I'm probably really close to where you are, Chris.  I plan to go for
full days, but if you think car pooling will work for you on any of the
days, let me know.  

Same goes for anyone else in the general vicinity.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of
Chris McAvoy
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 9:47 PM
To: Chirb discussion list
Subject: Re: [Chirb] Railsconf Car Pool?

Ah...yeah, it would help if I said where I'm at.  I'm on the North Side,
around Lawerence and Western.  I think I'm probably on my own for this
stuff.  My schedule is super weird this weekend.  Sorry guys.

Chris

On 6/20/06, Tom Kersten <tomkersten98 at gmail.com> wrote:
> i may also...I live further up north, but work in Glenview so I would 
> be willing to meet in/around Glenview/Skokie. I would really like to 
> go to the whole deal on Saturday, but I am sure I can work out 
> something that day if nothing else (taxi, etc).
>
> Let me know what you think...
>
> -tom
>
> On 6/20/06, Jeff Cohen <cohen.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > I might be interested, but you didn't mention where you're coming 
> > from?  I'm in Skokie.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff
> >
> > On 6/19/06, Chris McAvoy <chris.mcavoy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Just got the following from the Railsconf organizers.  I was 
> > > planning on driving out to the Wyndham for the three days of 
> > > confing.  Anyone want to car pool to save some parking dough?
> > >
> > > My only restriction is I need to leave a bit early on Saturday.  
> > > I'll have to miss DHH's keynote.  Otherwise, I plan on going full 
> > > tilt boogie on Rails.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com < 
> > > jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com>
> > > Date: Jun 19, 2006 4:23 PM
> > > Subject: RailsConf 2006: Final Instructions
> > > To: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Chris,
> > >
> > > Greetings! RailsConf 2006 is fast approaching and we look forward 
> > > to your attendance. I just wanted to review a few things prior to 
> > > your arrival.
> > >
> > > 1).  Make sure and confirm your hotel room with the Wyndham if
> > > applicable- call (847-297-1234).  Use this phone number as well 
> > > when arriving at O'Hare for Wyndham Shuttle pickup at the airport.
> > >
> > > 2).  Venue Address: Wyndham O'Hare
> > >                              6810 N.Mannheim Rd.
> > >                              Rosemont, Illinois 60018
> > >
> > > 3).  If you haven't already make sure and join Wyndham By Request 
> > > - free internet in sleeping room and other amenities at no charge.

> > > Go to http://www.wyndham.com/wbr/benefits/main.wnt? for
> > online
> > > registration information.
> > >
> > > 4).  Parking is $19/day at the Wyndham O'Hare.  So, if you are 
> > > coming from the greater Chicago area I recommend taking the train 
> > > to O'Hare and then calling the Wyndham shuttle for pickup.  For 
> > > those of you flying in, there is no need to rent a car.  
> > > Everything you need (restuarants, convenience store, etc..)is in 
> > > walking distance from the hotel.
> > >
> > > 5). Registration will run from 7:00 - 9:00 PM on Thursday evening 
> > > June 22nd.  Late registration will run from 7:30 AM - 9:00 AM on 
> > > Friday, June 23rd.  At registration you will receive a RailsConf 
> > > 2006 notebook, pen and T-shirt along with your RailsCon 2006 badge

> > > with schedule.
> > > 6). Wireless internet will be available in the Grand Ballroom and 
> > > foyer for your convenience starting on Friday morning.  Please use

> > > the bandwidth as needed.
> > >
> > > 7).  You have the opportunity to purchase audio/slides of 
> > > RailsConf
> > > 2006 while at the conference.  The cost is $50 and can be paid 
> > > either with check(payable to Big Sky Technology) or cash.  We will

> > > begin processing payment for the audio/slides on Saturday.  Note -

> > > we will be video taping the panels and majority of the Keynotes at
RailsConf.
> > > The video portion will be made available for free at a later date 
> > > via RubyCentral.
> > >
> > > 7).  Starting on Friday morning, a continental breakfast, 
> > > refreshment breaks and a box lunch including a vegetarian option 
> > > will be served at RailsConf 2006.  Dinner will be on your own with

> > > several restaurants available within walking distances as well as 
> > > the restaurant at the Wyndham.
> > >
> > > 8). For those of you arriving Thursday, there is going to be a 
> > > room setup for ad hoc/self-organizing presentations during the day

> > > on Thursday, so if people have things they want to present or 
> > > coding activities they want to organize, they should come and sign

> > > up for a slot.  The room available is a section of the ballroom. 
> > > Activities will start around 10:00 AM and go from there.
> > >
> > > That is it!  We look forward to seeing you at RailsConf 2006!
> > >
> > >
> > > All the Best,
> > >
> > > Jay Zimmerman
> > > RailsConf 2006
> > > jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com
> > >
> > >
> > ====================================================================
> > ======
> > > ** If you *do not* wish to receive these emails, please forward or

> > > send a message to **
> > > ** removeme at acteva.com, and we'll remove you from the previte 
> > > list. **
> > >
> > ====================================================================
> > ======
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> > >
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
_______________________________________________
ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list

From cohen.jeff at gmail.com  Wed Jun 21 21:43:42 2006
From: cohen.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Cohen)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:43:42 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Railsconf Car Pool?
In-Reply-To: <3C8E90FACF3F44459539D0AC4BD8CD73CE749F@CPOMAIL01.centerpostcorp.com>
References: <3096c19d0606201946k40b205a5sea928eda519c4ad2@mail.gmail.com>
	<3C8E90FACF3F44459539D0AC4BD8CD73CE749F@CPOMAIL01.centerpostcorp.com>
Message-ID: <3d7e01550606211843h1d48dfd1v95c4f62e19318d53@mail.gmail.com>

I think I'll drive up myself on Friday, and maybe after that try to find a
ride for Saturday... I'm realizing I might need the flexibility.

See you there!
Jeff

On 6/21/06, Jim Breen <jbreen at centerpost.com> wrote:
>
> I'm probably really close to where you are, Chris.  I plan to go for
> full days, but if you think car pooling will work for you on any of the
> days, let me know.
>
> Same goes for anyone else in the general vicinity.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org
> [mailto:chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of
> Chris McAvoy
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 9:47 PM
> To: Chirb discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Chirb] Railsconf Car Pool?
>
> Ah...yeah, it would help if I said where I'm at.  I'm on the North Side,
> around Lawerence and Western.  I think I'm probably on my own for this
> stuff.  My schedule is super weird this weekend.  Sorry guys.
>
> Chris
>
> On 6/20/06, Tom Kersten <tomkersten98 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > i may also...I live further up north, but work in Glenview so I would
> > be willing to meet in/around Glenview/Skokie. I would really like to
> > go to the whole deal on Saturday, but I am sure I can work out
> > something that day if nothing else (taxi, etc).
> >
> > Let me know what you think...
> >
> > -tom
> >
> > On 6/20/06, Jeff Cohen <cohen.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Chris,
> > >
> > > I might be interested, but you didn't mention where you're coming
> > > from?  I'm in Skokie.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > On 6/19/06, Chris McAvoy <chris.mcavoy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Just got the following from the Railsconf organizers.  I was
> > > > planning on driving out to the Wyndham for the three days of
> > > > confing.  Anyone want to car pool to save some parking dough?
> > > >
> > > > My only restriction is I need to leave a bit early on Saturday.
> > > > I'll have to miss DHH's keynote.  Otherwise, I plan on going full
> > > > tilt boogie on Rails.
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > From: jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com <
> > > > jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com>
> > > > Date: Jun 19, 2006 4:23 PM
> > > > Subject: RailsConf 2006: Final Instructions
> > > > To: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Chris,
> > > >
> > > > Greetings! RailsConf 2006 is fast approaching and we look forward
> > > > to your attendance. I just wanted to review a few things prior to
> > > > your arrival.
> > > >
> > > > 1).  Make sure and confirm your hotel room with the Wyndham if
> > > > applicable- call (847-297-1234).  Use this phone number as well
> > > > when arriving at O'Hare for Wyndham Shuttle pickup at the airport.
> > > >
> > > > 2).  Venue Address: Wyndham O'Hare
> > > >                              6810 N.Mannheim Rd.
> > > >                              Rosemont, Illinois 60018
> > > >
> > > > 3).  If you haven't already make sure and join Wyndham By Request
> > > > - free internet in sleeping room and other amenities at no charge.
>
> > > > Go to http://www.wyndham.com/wbr/benefits/main.wnt? for
> > > online
> > > > registration information.
> > > >
> > > > 4).  Parking is $19/day at the Wyndham O'Hare.  So, if you are
> > > > coming from the greater Chicago area I recommend taking the train
> > > > to O'Hare and then calling the Wyndham shuttle for pickup.  For
> > > > those of you flying in, there is no need to rent a car.
> > > > Everything you need (restuarants, convenience store, etc..)is in
> > > > walking distance from the hotel.
> > > >
> > > > 5). Registration will run from 7:00 - 9:00 PM on Thursday evening
> > > > June 22nd.  Late registration will run from 7:30 AM - 9:00 AM on
> > > > Friday, June 23rd.  At registration you will receive a RailsConf
> > > > 2006 notebook, pen and T-shirt along with your RailsCon 2006 badge
>
> > > > with schedule.
> > > > 6). Wireless internet will be available in the Grand Ballroom and
> > > > foyer for your convenience starting on Friday morning.  Please use
>
> > > > the bandwidth as needed.
> > > >
> > > > 7).  You have the opportunity to purchase audio/slides of
> > > > RailsConf
> > > > 2006 while at the conference.  The cost is $50 and can be paid
> > > > either with check(payable to Big Sky Technology) or cash.  We will
>
> > > > begin processing payment for the audio/slides on Saturday.  Note -
>
> > > > we will be video taping the panels and majority of the Keynotes at
> RailsConf.
> > > > The video portion will be made available for free at a later date
> > > > via RubyCentral.
> > > >
> > > > 7).  Starting on Friday morning, a continental breakfast,
> > > > refreshment breaks and a box lunch including a vegetarian option
> > > > will be served at RailsConf 2006.  Dinner will be on your own with
>
> > > > several restaurants available within walking distances as well as
> > > > the restaurant at the Wyndham.
> > > >
> > > > 8). For those of you arriving Thursday, there is going to be a
> > > > room setup for ad hoc/self-organizing presentations during the day
>
> > > > on Thursday, so if people have things they want to present or
> > > > coding activities they want to organize, they should come and sign
>
> > > > up for a slot.  The room available is a section of the ballroom.
> > > > Activities will start around 10:00 AM and go from there.
> > > >
> > > > That is it!  We look forward to seeing you at RailsConf 2006!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All the Best,
> > > >
> > > > Jay Zimmerman
> > > > RailsConf 2006
> > > > jzimmerman at nofluffjuststuff.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > ====================================================================
> > > ======
> > > > ** If you *do not* wish to receive these emails, please forward or
>
> > > > send a message to **
> > > > ** removeme at acteva.com, and we'll remove you from the previte
> > > > list. **
> > > >
> > > ====================================================================
> > > ======
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> > > >
> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> > >
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> >
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060621/10347964/attachment-0001.html 

From jason at hostedlabs.com  Thu Jun 22 13:35:39 2006
From: jason at hostedlabs.com (Jason Rexilius)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 12:35:39 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] [Fwd: Google.com engineering opportunities--in search of
	great talent]
Message-ID: <449AD4EB.6030502@hostedlabs.com>

All,

  Not sure if anyone would be interested, but it seems Google is hiring
like mad.  Thought I would pass it along.  

  The recruiter, Catherine, is really cool.  Feel free to drop her an
email if you're interested..

-jason


-------- Original Message -------

HI Jason,
 
I found your information online and apologize for the unsolicited email.
My name is Catherine Hansen, and I'm a recruiter for the Google.com
Engineering Leadership Group at Google.  This team is responsible for
supporting Google infrastructure as a whole, from systems high availability
to software production and the deployment of our innovative products and
services. As we continue to grow, we are in need of bright leaders like you
to drive the engineering changes on our team. 
 
I wanted to see if you may be interested in exploring engineering
opportunities with us.   We are seeking talented leaders and individual
contributors who also have hybrid, and current, expertise in coding,
algorithms, and UNIX/Linux networking to join our rapidly growing
organization.      We also look for experience with internet services
delivery and large scale distributed systems.  Management positions on this
team are very hands-on, so we need someone who wants to remain in the
trenches as well as serve as mentor to a team of our engineers.

 

We have positions open in the US in Mountain View (CA), Santa Monica (CA),
New York City, and Seattle, as well as Dublin (Ireland) and Bangalore
(India).  We could relocate you to any of these locations of your choice.  I
am enclosing job descriptions of two positions that may interest you.  

 

If you feel that any of these positions is something that may be of interest
to you, please send me an email so we can schedule a time to talk for half
an hour or so.   If you are not interested or available, but would like to
forward my name and contact information to your friends or colleagues, that
would be great as well. 

 

Thanks and hope to hear from you soon.

 
Catherine Hansen
hansenc at google.com
Google.com Engineering
Leadership Staffing Team 
1600 Amphitheatre Parkway 
Mountain View, CA 94043 

 


-------------- next part --------------
An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed...
Name: EngMgr.txt
Url: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060626/a64e9dda/attachment.txt 
-------------- next part --------------
An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed...
Name: SRESW.txt
Url: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060626/a64e9dda/attachment-0001.txt 

From ryan at platte.name  Tue Jun 27 23:11:22 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:11:22 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] July Chirb: Radiant CMS creator John Long
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0606272011k79522875gcb96139f0786223c@mail.gmail.com>

Announcing the July Chirb meeting! Please RSVP at:
http://chirb.org/uger/event/show/3

Say the words "content management" in the ears of nearly any Web
developer and they will likely frown and complain that most content
management systems are too complicated, difficult to setup, or not very
flexible. They have good reason to complain. Content management systems
are notorious for containing every feature, except for the kitchen sink!

Enter Radiant--a light-weight content management system designed from
the ground up to be simple to use, while remaining flexible and
powerful. It's a content management system that has borrowed much from
Textpattern and MovableType while seeking to be more than a simple a
blogging engine.

Radiant features:

* The ability to arrange pages in a hierarchy
* Layouts that can be used to apply a common look to a Web site
* Snippets that are similar to partials or includes
* Pages which are defined in multiple parts (body, extended, sidebar,
etc...)
* A custom tagging language (Radius: http://radius.rubyforge.org)
* Special page-oriented plugins called behaviors
* A simple user management/permissions system
* Several domain specific languages which make it easy to write plugins

In his talk John will talk about the design and discovery process he
went through while building Radiant and cover the guiding philosophies
behind it. He will also demonstrate installation and setup from a Gem
and talk about how Radiant can be extended. You will discover the joys
of Radiant's robust domain languages and revel in the ease with which
you can create new content. He will also discuss how Radiant is being
used on the new version of the main Ruby web site (http://ruby-lang.org)
and explain how others are using it.

John has been involved in the Ruby community for nearly 4 years now. He
has broad experience in Web development and is also an accomplished
designer. In 2004, John helped to found and organize the Chicago Area
Ruby Group. Apart from programming, John enjoys spending time with his
family, learning about art, studying history, reading fiction, and
playing basketball. He is currently self-employed and lives in
Harrisburg, PA.

ThoughtWorks
651 W. Washington Blvd. Suite 600
Chicago , IL 60661
(312) 373-1000

After Hour Access
The building entrance on Desplaines will be open until 7. The elevators will
be on until 7 as well so that people can get to the 6th floor. After that,
please feel free to call Jake at 773/905-9102 and he'll have someone get
you.

Directions
Take the Washington exit off of 94/90. ThoughtWorks is at the corner of
Desplaines and Washington.

-- 
Ryan Platte
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060627/e78365b6/attachment.html 

From aplatte at gmail.com  Tue Jun 27 23:25:32 2006
From: aplatte at gmail.com (Alex Platte)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:25:32 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] July Chirb: Radiant CMS creator John Long
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0606272011k79522875gcb96139f0786223c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0606272011k79522875gcb96139f0786223c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c5177e320606272025i15c8b5aay87a556112ca3b908@mail.gmail.com>

To be clear, this meeting is on July 6th, correct?

On 6/27/06, Ryan Platte <ryan at platte.name> wrote:
>
> Announcing the July Chirb meeting! Please RSVP at:
> http://chirb.org/uger/event/show/3
>
> Say the words "content management" in the ears of nearly any Web
> developer and they will likely frown and complain that most content
> management systems are too complicated, difficult to setup, or not very
> flexible. They have good reason to complain. Content management systems
> are notorious for containing every feature, except for the kitchen sink!
>
> Enter Radiant--a light-weight content management system designed from
> the ground up to be simple to use, while remaining flexible and
> powerful. It's a content management system that has borrowed much from
> Textpattern and MovableType while seeking to be more than a simple a
> blogging engine.
>
> Radiant features:
>
> * The ability to arrange pages in a hierarchy
> * Layouts that can be used to apply a common look to a Web site
> * Snippets that are similar to partials or includes
> * Pages which are defined in multiple parts (body, extended, sidebar,
> etc...)
> * A custom tagging language (Radius: http://radius.rubyforge.org )
> * Special page-oriented plugins called behaviors
> * A simple user management/permissions system
> * Several domain specific languages which make it easy to write plugins
>
> In his talk John will talk about the design and discovery process he
> went through while building Radiant and cover the guiding philosophies
> behind it. He will also demonstrate installation and setup from a Gem
> and talk about how Radiant can be extended. You will discover the joys
> of Radiant's robust domain languages and revel in the ease with which
> you can create new content. He will also discuss how Radiant is being
> used on the new version of the main Ruby web site ( http://ruby-lang.org)
> and explain how others are using it.
>
> John has been involved in the Ruby community for nearly 4 years now. He
> has broad experience in Web development and is also an accomplished
> designer. In 2004, John helped to found and organize the Chicago Area
> Ruby Group. Apart from programming, John enjoys spending time with his
> family, learning about art, studying history, reading fiction, and
> playing basketball. He is currently self-employed and lives in
> Harrisburg, PA.
>
> ThoughtWorks
> 651 W. Washington Blvd. Suite 600
> Chicago , IL 60661
> (312) 373-1000
>
> After Hour Access
> The building entrance on Desplaines will be open until 7. The elevators
> will be on until 7 as well so that people can get to the 6th floor. After
> that, please feel free to call Jake at 773/905-9102 and he'll have someone
> get you.
>
> Directions
> Take the Washington exit off of 94/90. ThoughtWorks is at the corner of
> Desplaines and Washington.
>
> --
> Ryan Platte
>
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060627/1edf558b/attachment.html 

From ryan at platte.name  Wed Jun 28 08:08:20 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 07:08:20 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] July Chirb: Radiant CMS creator John Long
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0606272011k79522875gcb96139f0786223c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0606272011k79522875gcb96139f0786223c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0606280508w559c89d6s1797cbaec6194cb4@mail.gmail.com>

I forgot my five W's...please note that this meeting is scheduled for
Thursday, July 6th due to the holiday. It's on the event page, but I should
have mentioned the schedule change.

Radiant is a very powerful and simple tool. I really think John is on to
something, and would encourage all of you to come check out what he's
created.

On 6/27/06, Ryan Platte <ryan at platte.name> wrote:
>
> Announcing the July Chirb meeting! Please RSVP at:
> http://chirb.org/uger/event/show/3
>

-- 
Ryan Platte
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/chicagogroup-members-list/attachments/20060628/276abe71/attachment.html 

From jason at hostedlabs.com  Wed Jun 28 16:41:50 2006
From: jason at hostedlabs.com (Jason Rexilius)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:41:50 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] BARcamp Chicago 2006, July 15-16
Message-ID: <44A2E98E.1030509@hostedlabs.com>

Hey Everybody!

BARcamp Chicago has finally found a venue and picked a date (15-16
July)!  It looks like July is going to be a great month for the Chicago
tech community with BARcamp and TECHcocktail (6th July).

So an early thought I threw out for a BARcamp project, that I would like
to explore with you guys and gals is this:

Build a web company, from concept to live-product, during the BARcamp
weekend.  Similar to the 24-hour dot com event done a while back by some
Swedish kids at the Wizards of OS conference in Germany.  Take a look at
their site for background: http://24hdc.com/

My idea is to take that a step further as a showcase for these things:
- the new RAD platforms (RoR, Cake/Drupal/et al., Django/Zope/et al).
- the new Business Model for start-ups, Going Bedouin
http://www.charterstreet.com/2006/02/going_bedouin.html
- Chicago talent, creativity, and entrepreneurial spirit

I think it can also be a great way for the tech community to learn about
start-up details that we may not all know about being hidden safely away
in our job-cubicles.
So what I am proposing is that we make 3 teams, PHP, Python, and Ruby,
(wheres my perl peoples?), pick an idea or a topic, and build 3
companies.  A little friendly competition and exploration of ideas.

Does anyone have any interest for this type of a project?  Thoughts!

For more details see:

http://barcampchicago.com/index.php?wiki=The24hrDotCom

Chat more on the topic later...

-jason

From rubygroup at johnwlong.com  Wed Jun 28 18:55:17 2006
From: rubygroup at johnwlong.com (John W. Long)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:55:17 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] July Chirb: Radiant CMS creator John Long
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0606272011k79522875gcb96139f0786223c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0606272011k79522875gcb96139f0786223c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44A308D5.8000305@johnwlong.com>

Ryan Platte wrote:
> Announcing the July Chirb meeting! Please RSVP at:
> http://chirb.org/uger/event/show/3

Please bring laptops preconfigured for rails development. We are going 
to try and do a few coding exercises.

--
John Long
http://wiseheartdesign.com

From ng at johnwlong.com  Thu Jun 29 20:44:51 2006
From: ng at johnwlong.com (John W. Long)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:44:51 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] [ANN] Radiant CMS 0.5 - Grindstone
Message-ID: <44A47403.8070308@johnwlong.com>

Last night I quietly rolled out the first official release of Radiant: 
0.5 - Grindstone. This release was a stability release mostly targeted 
toward making it easy for people to download and get started with 
Radiant. Radiant now ships with a simple setup_database script which 
makes it easy to get up and running with one of three default templates. 
We also made it easy for people to install Radiant via Ruby Gems.


WHAT IS RADIANT CMS?

Radiant is a no-fluff content management system designed for small 
teams. It's similar to Movable Type or Textpattern, but is more than a 
blogging engine. It's a Web developer's CMS with just enough features to 
make it worthwhile. We've intentionally left the kitchen sink out!

Radiant features:

  * An elegant user interface
  * The ability to arrange pages in a hierarchy
  * Flexible templating with layouts, snippets, page parts, and a
    custom tagging language (Radius: http://radius.rubyforge.org)
  * Special page-oriented plugins called behaviors
  * A simple user management/permissions system
  * Support for Markdown and Textile as well as traditional HTML
    (it's easy to create other filters)
  * Operates in two modes: dev and production depending on the URL
  * A caching system which expires pages every 5 minutes
  * Built using Ruby on Rails (which means that extending Radiant is
    as easy as any other Rails application)
  * Licensed under the MIT-License
  * And much more...

There's even a live demo over on the project Web site:

   http://radiantcms.org/demo/


INSTALLATION

We've worked hard to make it easy to install Radiant. For starters you 
can download it with Ruby Gems:

% gem install --include-dependencies radiant

Once the Radiant gem is installed you have access to the `radiant` 
command. The `radiant` command is similar to the `rails` command (if you 
are from the Rails world. It's how you generate a new Radiant instance 
application. An instance application is an application that references 
the source code which is located somewhere else (in this case the 
Radiant gem.) So `cd` to the directory where you would like your 
instance to be installed and type:

% radiant .

Next create a database for your application and setup the appropriate 
config/database.yml file. You'll find several examples in the config 
directory. Radiant supports MySQL, SQLite, and PostgreSQL.

Then run the `script/setup_database` command:

% script/setup_database production

And start up the test server:

% script/server

Finally, hit the /admin/ URL and you should be off to the races. See the 
README file in the release for additional details.

If you are interested in other download options, visit the download 
page: http://radiantcms.org/download/.


CONTRIBUTORS

Radiant wouldn't be possible without the help of some fine people. The 
following people have made contributions to this release:

* Matt McCray        * Paul Smith            * Scott Walter
* Sven Lauer         * Tristan Boniver       * Chris Corriveau
* Ryan Platte        * Luis Lavena

Thanks guys! If you'd like to hop on the development band wagon head on 
over to our dev site (http://dev.radiantcms.org/).


SUPPORT

Perhaps the best place to get support is on the Radiant mailing list. 
There's a crowd of people there who have been hanging around for over a 
month now. Newbie questions are welcome! To sign up, go to:

http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/


Enjoy!

--
John Long
http://wiseheartdesign.com
http://radiantcms.org