From peter at oaktop.com  Mon Oct  9 00:05:31 2006
From: peter at oaktop.com (Peter K Chan)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 00:05:31 -0400
Subject: [Chirb] MacBook Mini-DVI Adapter for Meeting
Message-ID: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E15628@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>

Can someone (or two) who has a MacBook mini-DVI adapter bring one to the
meeting tomorrow? I just got my MacBook and haven't had the chance to
get an adapter yet.

Thanks,

Peter

From peter at oaktop.com  Wed Oct 11 01:44:43 2006
From: peter at oaktop.com (Peter K Chan)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 01:44:43 -0400
Subject: [Chirb] JRuby Presentation Files
Message-ID: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E15A2A@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>

Thanks to everyone who came to Monday's meeting.

As promised, here is a link to the files for your pleasure:

http://oaktop.com/go/jruby/

	Click on presentation to view the presentation and check out
some of the sample Java code for invoking Ruby code using JRuby.

	Also, I am hoping to re-present this presentation. If you
attended the meeting, I would appreciate if you could send me some
feedback.

Thanks,

Peter

From qzzzq1 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 11 11:12:25 2006
From: qzzzq1 at gmail.com (colin h)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:12:25 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] JRuby Presentation Files
In-Reply-To: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E15A2A@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
References: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E15A2A@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
Message-ID: <507da57a0610110812gdfc8777pb3fd14877bc5ee36@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Peter!

On 10/11/06, Peter K Chan <peter at oaktop.com> wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who came to Monday's meeting.
>
> As promised, here is a link to the files for your pleasure:
>
> http://oaktop.com/go/jruby/
>
>         Click on presentation to view the presentation and check out
> some of the sample Java code for invoking Ruby code using JRuby.
>
>         Also, I am hoping to re-present this presentation. If you
> attended the meeting, I would appreciate if you could send me some
> feedback.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>

From jcroneme at thoughtworks.com  Wed Oct 11 10:57:01 2006
From: jcroneme at thoughtworks.com (Josh Cronemeyer)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:57:01 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Thanks Peter
In-Reply-To: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E15A2A@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
Message-ID: <OFBF8D2B87.BBB62B67-ON86257204.005160FA-05257204.00522023@thoughtworks.com>

Thanks to Peter for the presentation Tuesday.  I thought it went well. The 
"unscripted" style worked nicely.  I especially liked the beginning when 
we installed and ran Rails, then the audience threw different things at it 
to see how jRuby held up.  Good times. 

Thanks again Peter, I'll try to look over the slides again and send you 
some feedback this weekend.

Josh Cronemeyer
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From kevin at obtiva.com  Mon Oct 16 19:59:17 2006
From: kevin at obtiva.com (Kevin P. Taylor)
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:59:17 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] [ANN] Ruby on Rails TDD Boot Camp Nov 6-9
In-Reply-To: <41A625F9-E0CF-4B1A-A83E-B8AE1E293426@obtiva.com>
References: <41A625F9-E0CF-4B1A-A83E-B8AE1E293426@obtiva.com>
Message-ID: <46B7399B-47FD-4DCD-ADF5-F59995039C6E@obtiva.com>

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Training and Consulting
Direct: 630.456.1388
Fax: 315.351.1388

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From beau at open-source-staffing.com  Tue Oct 17 12:43:09 2006
From: beau at open-source-staffing.com (Beau Gould)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:43:09 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] [JOB] RoR and/or AJAX Developer PAID RELO to San Francisco,
	CA
Message-ID: <005d01c6f20b$54b83c00$a8f5b248@BEAU>

RoR and/or AJAX Developer PAID RELO to San Francisco, CA

My client is a start-up personal communications company. They are backed
by a top tier venture capitalist firm and have had fantastic reception
to their initial service.

They are seeking a talented, driven, hard-working, smart developer to
help build an interactive consumer web experience using Ruby on Rails
and/or AJAX. We're looking for someone passionate about creating a
large-scale consumer application and who loves sleek coding.

Required Skills: 
* At least 2 years professional experience developing web applications 
* Ruby on Rails and/or AJAX experience REQUIRED 
* SQL database development with MySQL, PostgreSQL, or similar 
* PHP, JavaScript, Java, XML, CSS, AJAX 
* Experience building a consumer web user interface a big plus 

This position offers a competitive base salary and bonus program, stock
options, and other comprehensive benefits.  Paid relocation to San
Francisco also available to qualified candidates. 

If you are interested in this position, please submit your resume,
salary requirements, and a paragraph (or two) highlighting your
skills/experience as it pertains to this job to
beau at open-source-staffing.com 


From ryan at platte.name  Tue Oct 17 14:36:55 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:36:55 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0610171136r4c176ea8g45e577c4d0154f7d@mail.gmail.com>

Chirbers,

I noticed that Amazon has someone presenting at various Chicago-area
user groups on their S3 service. Anyone curious to know more about S3?
They didn't approach me, this is my own initiative based on what I saw
cross my path.

http://aws.amazon.com/s3

-- 
Ryan Platte

From tomkersten98 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 17 15:04:50 2006
From: tomkersten98 at gmail.com (Tom Kersten)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:04:50 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0610171136r4c176ea8g45e577c4d0154f7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0610171136r4c176ea8g45e577c4d0154f7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20c8f9e00610171204p431205d9x3127af8b41b3df36@mail.gmail.com>

I would definitely be interested in hearing more about it....

-tom kersten



On 10/17/06, Ryan Platte <ryan at platte.name> wrote:
>
> Chirbers,
>
> I noticed that Amazon has someone presenting at various Chicago-area
> user groups on their S3 service. Anyone curious to know more about S3?
> They didn't approach me, this is my own initiative based on what I saw
> cross my path.
>
> http://aws.amazon.com/s3
>
> --
> Ryan Platte
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
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From hubrix at hubrix.com  Tue Oct 17 15:06:34 2006
From: hubrix at hubrix.com (Mark Alexander Friedgan)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:06:34 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0610171136r4c176ea8g45e577c4d0154f7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0610171136r4c176ea8g45e577c4d0154f7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e1112fd0610171206s470da663rf41cfc4c9e492b63@mail.gmail.com>

Give us your data, give us your children, we promise we'll keep them safe.

Sincerely,

Amazon

:)

On 10/17/06, Ryan Platte <ryan at platte.name> wrote:
>
> Chirbers,
>
> I noticed that Amazon has someone presenting at various Chicago-area
> user groups on their S3 service. Anyone curious to know more about S3?
> They didn't approach me, this is my own initiative based on what I saw
> cross my path.
>
> http://aws.amazon.com/s3
>
> --
> Ryan Platte
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Tue Oct 17 15:13:40 2006
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:13:40 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0610171136r4c176ea8g45e577c4d0154f7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0610171136r4c176ea8g45e577c4d0154f7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70610171213o61aebdddqafd226996a892235@mail.gmail.com>

> I noticed that Amazon has someone presenting at various Chicago-area
> user groups on their S3 service. Anyone curious to know more about S3?
> They didn't approach me, this is my own initiative based on what I saw
> cross my path.

Mike Culver from Amazon came to Chicago.pm and did a great
presentation on their web services.  It seemed to go over really well
with the group.  We were originally supposed to have Jeff Barr, Mike's
counterpart from Amazon, do the talk, but they had to switch out
last-minute.  It would probably be best to go through Tracy Laxdal,
laxdal at amazon.com or 206.266.5205, if you want someone from Amazon to
stop by.  I think she is the coordinator.

From qzzzq1 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 17 15:16:42 2006
From: qzzzq1 at gmail.com (colin h)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:16:42 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0610171136r4c176ea8g45e577c4d0154f7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0610171136r4c176ea8g45e577c4d0154f7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <507da57a0610171216n18d1844cy46ba07045ee908a5@mail.gmail.com>

I'm definately interested... count me in...

On 10/17/06, Ryan Platte <ryan at platte.name> wrote:
> Chirbers,
>
> I noticed that Amazon has someone presenting at various Chicago-area
> user groups on their S3 service. Anyone curious to know more about S3?
> They didn't approach me, this is my own initiative based on what I saw
> cross my path.
>
> http://aws.amazon.com/s3
>
> --
> Ryan Platte
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>

From peter at oaktop.com  Thu Oct 19 02:25:02 2006
From: peter at oaktop.com (Peter K Chan)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:25:02 -0400
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0610171136r4c176ea8g45e577c4d0154f7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E715EC@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>

Good thinking, Ryan.

I happen to have the chance to meet with Mike Culver today (thanks to
introduction from Jonathon Wolter of techsocial.com). I asked him in
passing and he said that he would be up for it.

I followed up with an email to him. Let's see how this turns out. In the
meantime, am I correct in assuming that we don't have a speaker for
November yet? (I think Mike can make it for November).

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of
Ryan Platte
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:37 PM
To: Chirb discussion list
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?

Chirbers,

I noticed that Amazon has someone presenting at various Chicago-area
user groups on their S3 service. Anyone curious to know more about S3?
They didn't approach me, this is my own initiative based on what I saw
cross my path.

http://aws.amazon.com/s3

-- 
Ryan Platte
_______________________________________________
ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list

From peter at oaktop.com  Thu Oct 19 02:37:16 2006
From: peter at oaktop.com (Peter K Chan)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:37:16 -0400
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E715EC@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
Message-ID: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E715F9@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>

I didn't actually mention who Mike Culver was, did I? :-)

Mike is the Web Service Evangelist for Amazon.com. He is the one who has
been doing presentations around Chicago, and he was also originally from
Chicago.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of
Peter K Chan
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:25 AM
To: Chirb discussion list
Subject: Re: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?

Good thinking, Ryan.

I happen to have the chance to meet with Mike Culver today (thanks to
introduction from Jonathon Wolter of techsocial.com). I asked him in
passing and he said that he would be up for it.

I followed up with an email to him. Let's see how this turns out. In the
meantime, am I correct in assuming that we don't have a speaker for
November yet? (I think Mike can make it for November).

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of
Ryan Platte
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:37 PM
To: Chirb discussion list
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?

Chirbers,

I noticed that Amazon has someone presenting at various Chicago-area
user groups on their S3 service. Anyone curious to know more about S3?
They didn't approach me, this is my own initiative based on what I saw
cross my path.

http://aws.amazon.com/s3

-- 
Ryan Platte
_______________________________________________
ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
_______________________________________________
ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list

From cosine at cosine.org  Thu Oct 19 02:53:54 2006
From: cosine at cosine.org (Michael H Buselli)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 01:53:54 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E715F9@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
References: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E715EC@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
	<EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E715F9@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
Message-ID: <406d2d610610182353y658acee6m675a40fe41eab056@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/19/06, Peter K Chan <peter at oaktop.com> wrote:
> I didn't actually mention who Mike Culver was, did I? :-)
>
> Mike is the Web Service Evangelist for Amazon.com. He is the one who has
> been doing presentations around Chicago, and he was also originally from
> Chicago.

Is S3 really a big deal?  It's not free, and I do not understand how
this can turn out to be more than a sweet marketing opportunity for
Amazon.  Am I missing something?

--Michael

From ryan at platte.name  Thu Oct 19 06:34:51 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:34:51 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <406d2d610610182353y658acee6m675a40fe41eab056@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E715EC@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
	<EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E715F9@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
	<406d2d610610182353y658acee6m675a40fe41eab056@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0610190334j54914364na3029e8c12712843@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/19/06, Michael H "Free as in Beer" Buselli <cosine at cosine.org> wrote:
>
> Is S3 really a big deal?  It's not free, and I do not understand how
> this can turn out to be more than a sweet marketing opportunity for
> Amazon.  Am I missing something?


Nope. Got any better ideas, wise guy?   ;-)

It's not free, correct, but it *is* a reasonably priced hosting service that
has some interesting implications with its RESTful interface and that.

I'd be all for other ideas and/or somebody demonstrating _why's ParkPlace:

http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/parkPlaceTheS3CloneYouVeBeenAlwaysAlmostWantingToSaveFifteenCentsWith.html
http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/parkplace

This is why I went to the list about the possibility several days ago
instead of just announcing a done deal. I should have explicitly asked:
anybody have something they'd rather present on?

-- 
Ryan Platte
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From mrnicksgirl at gmail.com  Thu Oct 19 07:21:13 2006
From: mrnicksgirl at gmail.com (Nola Stowe)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:21:13 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0610190334j54914364na3029e8c12712843@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E715EC@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
	<EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E715F9@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
	<406d2d610610182353y658acee6m675a40fe41eab056@mail.gmail.com>
	<2f1a1dcb0610190334j54914364na3029e8c12712843@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43e95380610190421v3c6c4cf2rb3e7496d57300e0a@mail.gmail.com>

Mike spoke at the PHP group monday night. I IS all about Amazon Web
Services, which does cost but I didn't feel like it was a "marketing
push" or anything. it was all very interesting and I think is leading
the way to a new way of computing. I think the Ruby group would enjoy
this presentation.


On 10/19/06, Ryan Platte <ryan at platte.name> wrote:
> On 10/19/06, Michael H "Free as in Beer" Buselli <cosine at cosine.org> wrote:
> > Is S3 really a big deal?  It's not free, and I do not understand how
> > this can turn out to be more than a sweet marketing opportunity for
> > Amazon.  Am I missing something?
>
> Nope. Got any better ideas, wise guy?   ;-)
>
> It's not free, correct, but it *is* a reasonably priced hosting service that
> has some interesting implications with its RESTful interface and that.
>
> I'd be all for other ideas and/or somebody demonstrating _why's ParkPlace:
>
> http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/parkPlaceTheS3CloneYouVeBeenAlwaysAlmostWantingToSaveFifteenCentsWith.html
> http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/parkplace
>
> This is why I went to the list about the possibility several days ago
> instead of just announcing a done deal. I should have explicitly asked:
> anybody have something they'd rather present on?
>
> --
> Ryan Platte
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
>


-- 
http://rubygeek.com - my blog featuring: Ruby, PHP and Perl
http://DevChix.com - boys can't have all the fun
http://CodeSnipers.com

From natebkirby at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 19 09:25:26 2006
From: natebkirby at yahoo.com (Nate Kirby)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:25:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <43e95380610190421v3c6c4cf2rb3e7496d57300e0a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20061019132526.95296.qmail@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

All,

Anyone willing to present on RSpec????

Thanks,
Nate

Nola Stowe <mrnicksgirl at gmail.com> wrote: Mike spoke at the PHP group monday night. I IS all about Amazon Web
Services, which does cost but I didn't feel like it was a "marketing
push" or anything. it was all very interesting and I think is leading
the way to a new way of computing. I think the Ruby group would enjoy
this presentation.


On 10/19/06, Ryan Platte  wrote:
> On 10/19/06, Michael H "Free as in Beer" Buselli  wrote:
> > Is S3 really a big deal?  It's not free, and I do not understand how
> > this can turn out to be more than a sweet marketing opportunity for
> > Amazon.  Am I missing something?
>
> Nope. Got any better ideas, wise guy?   ;-)
>
> It's not free, correct, but it *is* a reasonably priced hosting service that
> has some interesting implications with its RESTful interface and that.
>
> I'd be all for other ideas and/or somebody demonstrating _why's ParkPlace:
>
> http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/parkPlaceTheS3CloneYouVeBeenAlwaysAlmostWantingToSaveFifteenCentsWith.html
> http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/parkplace
>
> This is why I went to the list about the possibility several days ago
> instead of just announcing a done deal. I should have explicitly asked:
> anybody have something they'd rather present on?
>
> --
> Ryan Platte
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
>


-- 
http://rubygeek.com - my blog featuring: Ruby, PHP and Perl
http://DevChix.com - boys can't have all the fun
http://CodeSnipers.com
_______________________________________________
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Nate Kirby
Principal
Practical Strategies Inc. 
 
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From ryan at platte.name  Thu Oct 19 10:02:49 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:02:49 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <20061019132526.95296.qmail@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <43e95380610190421v3c6c4cf2rb3e7496d57300e0a@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061019132526.95296.qmail@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0610190702g66c55eefqc84282e1c6810e36@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/19/06, Nate Kirby <natebkirby at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone willing to present on RSpec????
>

The all-star team of Dave Chelimsky, Aslak Helles?y, and Dave Astels did
cover RSpec in our June meeting:

http://chirb.org/uger/event/show/2

Is there something in particular about RSpec you'd like us to cover?

-- 
Ryan Platte
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From natebkirby at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 19 10:25:30 2006
From: natebkirby at yahoo.com (Nate Kirby)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:25:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0610190702g66c55eefqc84282e1c6810e36@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20061019142530.21556.qmail@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ryan,

Sorry I was in China during June.

Are there slides or perhaps a movie of this presentation?

Anyone already done a presentation of setting up credit card processing in Rails?

Thanks,
Nate

Ryan Platte <ryan at platte.name> wrote: On 10/19/06, Nate Kirby <natebkirby at yahoo.com> wrote: Anyone willing to present on RSpec????


The all-star team of Dave Chelimsky, Aslak Helles?y, and Dave Astels did cover RSpec in our June meeting:

 http://chirb.org/uger/event/show/2

Is there something in particular about RSpec you'd like us to cover?

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From peter at oaktop.com  Thu Oct 19 10:45:53 2006
From: peter at oaktop.com (Peter K Chan)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:45:53 -0400
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <406d2d610610182353y658acee6m675a40fe41eab056@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E71626@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>

Sure, it's not free, and they (EC2 and S3) are both Amazon.com's
products.

Take a look at EC2 at http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/

The big deal is that this represents the "future" of deployment
scenarios. *If* Amazon.com is right, in 5 years, most of your (Rails)
apps will be deployed in a dynamically scalable fashion, rather than
being put on a box (or 100 boxes) that cost you money, whether or not
you are actually using it.

I think it has some relevant to Chirb (i.e. a deployment option for
Rails). However, whatever we decide, let's make a decision soon. Mike
just got back to me saying that November 7 won't work for him, but we
may have the option of another date || presenter.

I will wait for Chirb to decide on something before finalizing anything
with Mike.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of
Michael H Buselli
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:54 AM
To: Chirb discussion list
Subject: Re: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?

On 10/19/06, Peter K Chan <peter at oaktop.com> wrote:
> I didn't actually mention who Mike Culver was, did I? :-)
>
> Mike is the Web Service Evangelist for Amazon.com. He is the one who
has
> been doing presentations around Chicago, and he was also originally
from
> Chicago.

Is S3 really a big deal?  It's not free, and I do not understand how
this can turn out to be more than a sweet marketing opportunity for
Amazon.  Am I missing something?

--Michael
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From ryan at platte.name  Thu Oct 19 14:10:31 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:10:31 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E71626@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
References: <406d2d610610182353y658acee6m675a40fe41eab056@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E71626@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
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On 10/19/06, Peter K Chan <peter at oaktop.com> wrote:
>
> I think it has some relevant to Chirb (i.e. a deployment option for
> Rails). However, whatever we decide, let's make a decision soon. Mike
> just got back to me saying that November 7 won't work for him, but we
> may have the option of another date || presenter.
>
> I will wait for Chirb to decide on something before finalizing anything
> with Mike.


I got a lot of positive feedback and two people complaining it isn't free.
;-)

Let's see if and when they're available.

Thanks, Peter.

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From jcroneme at thoughtworks.com  Thu Oct 19 15:39:33 2006
From: jcroneme at thoughtworks.com (Josh Cronemeyer)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:39:33 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E71626@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
Message-ID: <OFD034706C.214C761C-ON8625720C.006B3ED8-0525720C.006BFE39@thoughtworks.com>

We should look for a presenter who is going to be flexible on their dates. 
 I have less and less confidence that the dates we were given for our move 
are going to be accurate.  I can only guess that we will be moved into the 
new office by the second week in November, but I might be wrong.  I'll let 
you all know when I find out what the real move dates are, and in the 
meantime if we can plan for maximum flexibility that would be best.  Sorry 
for the lack of information.

Josh Cronemeyer

chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org wrote on 10/19/2006 
09:45:53 AM:

> Sure, it's not free, and they (EC2 and S3) are both Amazon.com's
> products.
> 
> Take a look at EC2 at http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/
> 
> The big deal is that this represents the "future" of deployment
> scenarios. *If* Amazon.com is right, in 5 years, most of your (Rails)
> apps will be deployed in a dynamically scalable fashion, rather than
> being put on a box (or 100 boxes) that cost you money, whether or not
> you are actually using it.
> 
> I think it has some relevant to Chirb (i.e. a deployment option for
> Rails). However, whatever we decide, let's make a decision soon. Mike
> just got back to me saying that November 7 won't work for him, but we
> may have the option of another date || presenter.
> 
> I will wait for Chirb to decide on something before finalizing anything
> with Mike.
> 
> Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org
> [mailto:chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of
> Michael H Buselli
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:54 AM
> To: Chirb discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
> 
> On 10/19/06, Peter K Chan <peter at oaktop.com> wrote:
> > I didn't actually mention who Mike Culver was, did I? :-)
> >
> > Mike is the Web Service Evangelist for Amazon.com. He is the one who
> has
> > been doing presentations around Chicago, and he was also originally
> from
> > Chicago.
> 
> Is S3 really a big deal?  It's not free, and I do not understand how
> this can turn out to be more than a sweet marketing opportunity for
> Amazon.  Am I missing something?
> 
> --Michael
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
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From ryan at platte.name  Thu Oct 19 16:21:00 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:21:00 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <OFD034706C.214C761C-ON8625720C.006B3ED8-0525720C.006BFE39@thoughtworks.com>
References: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E71626@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
	<OFD034706C.214C761C-ON8625720C.006B3ED8-0525720C.006BFE39@thoughtworks.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0610191321k550505e5of262f46c51d2a4b4@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/19/06, Josh Cronemeyer <jcroneme at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
>
>
> We should look for a presenter who is going to be flexible on their dates.
>  I have less and less confidence that the dates we were given for our move
> are going to be accurate.  I can only guess that we will be moved into the
> new office by the second week in November, but I might be wrong.  I'll let
> you all know when I find out what the real move dates are, and in the
> meantime if we can plan for maximum flexibility that would be best.  Sorry
> for the lack of information.
>
> Josh Cronemeyer
>

Thank you for the info, Josh. Let's plan tentatively for the 2nd Monday in
November, knowing that it could change.

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From Dave.Bost at microsoft.com  Thu Oct 19 17:34:59 2006
From: Dave.Bost at microsoft.com (Dave Bost)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:34:59 -0700
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0610171136r4c176ea8g45e577c4d0154f7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2f1a1dcb0610171136r4c176ea8g45e577c4d0154f7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD1194D3397F24E931FEBA505B3D5B907C17FCE61@NA-EXMSG-C106.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>

Mike presented to the Chicago .NET User Group last night to a packed house. The session was very informative and certainly not a marketing ploy. Mike is a very gracious guy and is certainly interested in reaching out to all of the developer communities. You can contact Mike at mculver at amazon.com.

~db

dave bost | developer evangelist | microsoft corporation | o: 630.725.4090 | c: 630.650.9012 | b: http://www.davebost.com/blog


-----Original Message-----
From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Platte
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:37 PM
To: Chirb discussion list
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?

Chirbers,

I noticed that Amazon has someone presenting at various Chicago-area
user groups on their S3 service. Anyone curious to know more about S3?
They didn't approach me, this is my own initiative based on what I saw
cross my path.

http://aws.amazon.com/s3

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From cosine at cosine.org  Thu Oct 19 22:20:57 2006
From: cosine at cosine.org (Michael H Buselli)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:20:57 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <43e95380610190421v3c6c4cf2rb3e7496d57300e0a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E715EC@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
	<EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E715F9@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
	<406d2d610610182353y658acee6m675a40fe41eab056@mail.gmail.com>
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	<43e95380610190421v3c6c4cf2rb3e7496d57300e0a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <406d2d610610191920r6caf0487t9e59077a46807b2b@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/19/06, Nola Stowe <mrnicksgirl at gmail.com> wrote:
> Mike spoke at the PHP group monday night. I IS all about Amazon Web
> Services, which does cost but I didn't feel like it was a "marketing
> push" or anything. it was all very interesting and I think is leading
> the way to a new way of computing. I think the Ruby group would enjoy
> this presentation.

Fair enough for me.  However, I think we need to get something in soon
that has some more hands on work.  The last two presentations (maybe
three?  I think I missed one in August) have been devoid of exercises
for the audience.

If we end up with an S3 presentation, is anyone already using S3 that
could put together some exercises to go along the presentation?  Would
that be possible given the commercial nature of the service?  Perhaps
we could whip up a mock-S3 free (gratis+libre) server in Rails for
practise if necessary?  Doesn't that sound like fun? :)

--Michael

From peter at oaktop.com  Thu Oct 19 23:50:35 2006
From: peter at oaktop.com (Peter K Chan)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:50:35 -0400
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <406d2d610610191920r6caf0487t9e59077a46807b2b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E71763@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>

You mean you didn't bring your laptop along for running Rails in JRuby?
:)

You idea of a mock S3 sounds very fun. In fact, it was so fun that Why
already whipped out something. Take a look:

http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/parkplace

I am not too interested in S3 API per se, but rather the scalability
aspect of how S3 (or EC2, which is even more interesting) and how they
could change future deployment options.

Let's see if we can get the meeting set up first.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of
Michael H Buselli
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:21 PM
To: Chirb discussion list
Subject: Re: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?

On 10/19/06, Nola Stowe <mrnicksgirl at gmail.com> wrote:
> Mike spoke at the PHP group monday night. I IS all about Amazon Web
> Services, which does cost but I didn't feel like it was a "marketing
> push" or anything. it was all very interesting and I think is leading
> the way to a new way of computing. I think the Ruby group would enjoy
> this presentation.

Fair enough for me.  However, I think we need to get something in soon
that has some more hands on work.  The last two presentations (maybe
three?  I think I missed one in August) have been devoid of exercises
for the audience.

If we end up with an S3 presentation, is anyone already using S3 that
could put together some exercises to go along the presentation?  Would
that be possible given the commercial nature of the service?  Perhaps
we could whip up a mock-S3 free (gratis+libre) server in Rails for
practise if necessary?  Doesn't that sound like fun? :)

--Michael
_______________________________________________
ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list

From cosine at cosine.org  Fri Oct 20 02:51:48 2006
From: cosine at cosine.org (Michael H Buselli)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:51:48 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E71763@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
References: <406d2d610610191920r6caf0487t9e59077a46807b2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E71763@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
Message-ID: <406d2d610610192351j65aebb34i61cd3ed49b5cd0de@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/19/06, Peter K Chan <peter at oaktop.com> wrote:
> You mean you didn't bring your laptop along for running Rails in JRuby?
> :)

I did, but we couldn't download JRuby!  That wasn't your fault, but I
didn't get the sense that you had something for us to work on, either,
except for reference to exercises during the talk that I don't recall
materializing.  Did I miss it somehow?

> You idea of a mock S3 sounds very fun. In fact, it was so fun that Why
> already whipped out something. Take a look:
>
> http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/parkplace

I will do that.  Why never ceases to amaze.

> I am not too interested in S3 API per se, but rather the scalability
> aspect of how S3 (or EC2, which is even more interesting) and how they
> could change future deployment options.

Hmmm.  This point of view is very interesting indeed. :)

--Michael

From ryan at platte.name  Fri Oct 20 18:26:44 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:26:44 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Fwd: Rails Edge Conference
In-Reply-To: <A5839D26-201A-4B16-9BC1-99196D8406B9@clarkware.com>
References: <A5839D26-201A-4B16-9BC1-99196D8406B9@clarkware.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0610201526p26f03dfaw4a5b388ff6f6f337@mail.gmail.com>

Chirbers,

Mike Clark asked me to share this announcement about the Rails Edge
conferences.

I apologize, I let this sit in my inbox, and the discount deadline has
passed. I'm passing it along to you anyway.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mike Clark <mike at clarkware.com>

Hi Ryan,

I thought perhaps the folks in your Chicago Area Ruby Group might be
interested in our upcoming The Rails Edge conference.  I've included
info below.

Thanks!

Mike

---

Rails has accelerated quickly through the web development world,
powered from a solid foundation of Ruby.  Every month brings new
tools, new techniques, and new understanding of how to use them.  And
we're all just trying to keep up!

The Rails Edge (http://therailsedge.com) is a unique series of
regional conferences organized by The Pragmatic Studio to help you
keep your edge sharp.  We bring together top speakers in the Rails/
Ruby communities with you for 3 days immersed in Rails and Ruby:
technical sessions, discussions, networking with peers, exchanging
tips and tricks, and fun!

Many of the speakers on The Rails Edge tour also speak at RailsConf
and RubyConf.  The Rails Edge complements the other annual
conferences by bringing Rails and Ruby to regional venues multiple
times throughout the year.

We hope you'll join us on the edge!

-----------------------------
Dates
-----------------------------

November 16-18 in Denver, CO

January 25-27 in Reston, VA

-----------------------------
Speakers
-----------------------------

All of the following speakers will be on hand throughout the 3 day
conference to participate in scheduled talks and answer your questions:

* Dave Thomas: co-author of "The Pragmatic Programmer", "Programming
Ruby", and "Agile Web Development with Rails"

* Mike Clark: author of "Pragmatic Project Automation" and co-author
of "Agile Web Development with Rails"

* Chad Fowler: author of "Rails Recipes", the conference chair for
RailsConf, and co-organizer of RubyConf

* Jim Weirich: creator of the Rake build system and contributor to
the RubyGems package software

* Marcel Molina Jr.: member of the Rails core team

* James Duncan Davidson: creator of Apache Ant and Apache Tomcat, and
now a Rails deployment expert

* Justin Gehtland: co-author of "Pragmatic Ajax", "Rails for Java
Developers", and co-creator of the Streamlined framework

* Stuart Halloway: co-author of "Rails for Java Developers" and the
Streamlined framework

* Bruce Williams: UI talent on one of the largest Rails apps in
existence

-----------------------------
Timely and Pragmatic Sessions
-----------------------------

Get up to speed and stay sharp on these leading edge topics:

* Metaprogramming Ruby
* Ruby Idioms for Rails Programmers
* Rails Reflection
* Design Patterns in Ruby
* ActionPack Demystified
* Rails and Ajax
* Building View Frameworks
* Rails and Ajax
* ActiveRecord Demystified
* Rake: Building Up Ruby
* Rails Reflection
* Using REST-style Architectures
* Buried Treasure: Hidden Rails Tips
* Rails: The Right Tool for the Job?
* Deploying Rails Applications with Mongrel
* ...and more!

-----------------------------
Register Now and Save
-----------------------------

Register by October 16th and save $100!

Check out all the details and take advantage of early bird
registration at:

   http://therailsedge.com

Hope to see you there!

Mike





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From ryan at platte.name  Fri Oct 20 18:51:21 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:51:21 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Fwd: RailsConf 2007 Call For Proposals
In-Reply-To: <F074C1FD-3D6E-46BB-B022-EE60D28DE64E@oreilly.com>
References: <F074C1FD-3D6E-46BB-B022-EE60D28DE64E@oreilly.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0610201551k2dbfd6cax990a3b1ba1e892ab@mail.gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Marsee Henon <marsee at oreilly.com>
Date: Oct 18, 2006 11:27 AM
Subject: RailsConf 2007 Call For Proposals

Hi Ryan,

Thought you might want to know about this and pass
the word along to your members.

RailsConf 2007 Call For Proposals is Now Open
RailsConf 2007 will be held May 17-20 at the Oregon
Convention Center in Portland, Oregon--and O'Reilly
Media and Ruby Central are now accepting proposals
for conference sessions and tutorials. Proposals
are due November 27, 2006.

http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/rails2007/create/e_sess/




Marsee Henon

O'Reilly Media, Inc.
1005 Gravenstein Highway North
Sebastopol, CA   95472
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From peter at oaktop.com  Fri Oct 20 23:24:40 2006
From: peter at oaktop.com (Peter K Chan)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:24:40 -0400
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0610191321k550505e5of262f46c51d2a4b4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E718F1@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>

So, the news I got from Mike is as follow:

For November, he could do Thursday, November 16. Otherwise, he suggests sometime in February, TBD.

Chirbers: Can we do a Thursday night meeting?

Josh: Does it look like ThoughtWorks would be in the new location by November 16?

Thanks,

Peter
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From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Platte
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:21 PM
To: Chirb discussion list
Subject: Re: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?

On 10/19/06, Josh Cronemeyer <jcroneme at thoughtworks.com> wrote:

We should look for a presenter who is going to be flexible on their dates. ?I have less and less confidence that the dates we were given for our move are going to be accurate. ?I can only guess that we will be moved into the new office by the second week in November, but I might be wrong. ?I'll let you all know when I find out what the real move dates are, and in the meantime if we can plan for maximum flexibility that would be best. ?Sorry for the lack of information. 

Josh Cronemeyer 

Thank you for the info, Josh. Let's plan tentatively for the 2nd Monday in November, knowing that it could change.

-- 
Ryan Platte 

From tomkersten98 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 21 00:20:59 2006
From: tomkersten98 at gmail.com (Tom Kersten)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:20:59 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E718F1@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
References: <2f1a1dcb0610191321k550505e5of262f46c51d2a4b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E718F1@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
Message-ID: <20c8f9e00610202120k128b381at81f1d34a3e6dffe2@mail.gmail.com>

Thursday would work for me.

-tom

On 10/20/06, Peter K Chan <peter at oaktop.com> wrote:
>
> So, the news I got from Mike is as follow:
>
> For November, he could do Thursday, November 16. Otherwise, he suggests
> sometime in February, TBD.
>
> Chirbers: Can we do a Thursday night meeting?
>
> Josh: Does it look like ThoughtWorks would be in the new location by
> November 16?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter
> ________________________________________
> From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:
> chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Platte
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:21 PM
> To: Chirb discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
>
> On 10/19/06, Josh Cronemeyer <jcroneme at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
>
> We should look for a presenter who is going to be flexible on their dates.
> I have less and less confidence that the dates we were given for our move
> are going to be accurate. I can only guess that we will be moved into the
> new office by the second week in November, but I might be wrong. I'll let
> you all know when I find out what the real move dates are, and in the
> meantime if we can plan for maximum flexibility that would be best. Sorry
> for the lack of information.
>
> Josh Cronemeyer
>
> Thank you for the info, Josh. Let's plan tentatively for the 2nd Monday in
> November, knowing that it could change.
>
> --
> Ryan Platte
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
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From peter at oaktop.com  Sat Oct 21 00:40:23 2006
From: peter at oaktop.com (Peter K Chan)
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:40:23 -0400
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <406d2d610610192351j65aebb34i61cd3ed49b5cd0de@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E718F6@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>

Don't worry about it, Mike. I was just giving you a hard time. :)

If you want more info on JRuby, just let me know.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of
Michael H Buselli
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 12:52 AM
To: Chirb discussion list
Subject: Re: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?

On 10/19/06, Peter K Chan <peter at oaktop.com> wrote:
> You mean you didn't bring your laptop along for running Rails in
JRuby?
> :)

I did, but we couldn't download JRuby!  That wasn't your fault, but I
didn't get the sense that you had something for us to work on, either,
except for reference to exercises during the talk that I don't recall
materializing.  Did I miss it somehow?

> You idea of a mock S3 sounds very fun. In fact, it was so fun that Why
> already whipped out something. Take a look:
>
> http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/parkplace

I will do that.  Why never ceases to amaze.

> I am not too interested in S3 API per se, but rather the scalability
> aspect of how S3 (or EC2, which is even more interesting) and how they
> could change future deployment options.

Hmmm.  This point of view is very interesting indeed. :)

--Michael
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From ryan at platte.name  Sat Oct 21 12:20:42 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:20:42 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E718F1@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
References: <2f1a1dcb0610191321k550505e5of262f46c51d2a4b4@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0610210920o5c3f4f82ra072f7ec2a0caa8e@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/20/06, Peter K Chan <peter at oaktop.com> wrote:
>
> So, the news I got from Mike is as follow:
>
> For November, he could do Thursday, November 16. Otherwise, he suggests
> sometime in February, TBD.
>
> Chirbers: Can we do a Thursday night meeting?
>
> Josh: Does it look like ThoughtWorks would be in the new location by
> November 16?


I'd like to do Nov. 16 if possible.

Also, CashNetUSA mentioned interest in hosting sometime -- anybody else
interested in hosting and buying pizza if ThoughtWorks isn't available for
November?

-- 
Ryan Platte
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From jcroneme at thoughtworks.com  Sat Oct 21 16:44:28 2006
From: jcroneme at thoughtworks.com (Josh Cronemeyer)
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:44:28 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0610210920o5c3f4f82ra072f7ec2a0caa8e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OF55184AB3.30038BA3-ON8625720E.007145E4-0525720E.0071EF84@thoughtworks.com>

I've got a handle on our move schedule now.  It looks like we will still 
be at the old location until the Dec. Meeting.  We are moving our network 
on Friday the 17th of November, so any time before then will be fine.  Let 
me know if we get a conformation from Mike on the 16th and I will make all 
the arrangements on our end.

Are we also still considering a hands on portion afterwards?  If so it 
might be interesting to have that section cover Why's Park Place.  You 
know, to compare and contrast.

Josh Cronemeyer

chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org wrote on 10/21/2006 
11:20:42 AM:

> On 10/20/06, Peter K Chan <peter at oaktop.com> wrote:
> So, the news I got from Mike is as follow:
> 
> For November, he could do Thursday, November 16. Otherwise, he 
> suggests sometime in February, TBD.
> 
> Chirbers: Can we do a Thursday night meeting?
> 
> Josh: Does it look like ThoughtWorks would be in the new location by 
> November 16? 
> 
> I'd like to do Nov. 16 if possible.
> 
> Also, CashNetUSA mentioned interest in hosting sometime -- anybody 
> else interested in hosting and buying pizza if ThoughtWorks isn't 
> available for November? 
> 
> -- 
> Ryan Platte _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
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From tet11_2001 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 22 12:40:30 2006
From: tet11_2001 at yahoo.com (Nick)
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:40:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Chirb] Question about magic columns in rails and rails hosting
Message-ID: <20061022164030.93522.qmail@web82802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I am doing a data migration from an existing database into my rails mysql database.  I have some foreign key columns and I would like to keep the ids the same on the new database.  How do I force rails to use the id I pass into the create method?  

This doesn't seem to work:

Example.create(:id => 99, etc...)

Also, does anyone have any recommendations for rails hosting?  I found a company called A2hosting that looks to do what I want.  Does anyone have any recommendations or words of advice?

Thanks,
-Nick Malnick



From shanev at gmail.com  Sun Oct 22 13:31:00 2006
From: shanev at gmail.com (Shane Vitarana)
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:31:00 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Question about magic columns in rails and rails hosting
In-Reply-To: <20061022164030.93522.qmail@web82802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20061022164030.93522.qmail@web82802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4ab757a40610221031p6b6567c0h7b55424962974a68@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Nick,

I believe create() assumes you are passing in non-id attributes and
returns the id generated by the DB.  Try using new() passing in a
block of attributes instead, and do a save() afterwards.

For VPS hosting, I've heard good things about Rimuhosting
<http://rimuhosting.com/>.  They let you choose a distro and provide
root access.  I've also been curious about Media Temple's new
Grid-Server package <http://www.mediatemple.net/webhosting/gs/>.  I'm
not sure if they give you root though.

Shane Vitarana
http://shanesbrain.net

On 10/22/06, Nick <tet11_2001 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am doing a data migration from an existing database into my rails mysql database.  I have some foreign key columns and I would like to keep the ids the same on the new database.  How do I force rails to use the id I pass into the create method?
>
> This doesn't seem to work:
>
> Example.create(:id => 99, etc...)
>
> Also, does anyone have any recommendations for rails hosting?  I found a company called A2hosting that looks to do what I want.  Does anyone have any recommendations or words of advice?
>
> Thanks,
> -Nick Malnick
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>

From dave.hoover at gmail.com  Sun Oct 22 13:44:19 2006
From: dave.hoover at gmail.com (Dave Hoover)
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:44:19 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Question about magic columns in rails and rails hosting
In-Reply-To: <20061022164030.93522.qmail@web82802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20061022164030.93522.qmail@web82802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <11c8704e0610221044s3e42a07dgc3e4e933c1401c19@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/22/06, Nick <tet11_2001 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am doing a data migration from an existing database into my rails mysql database.  I have
> some foreign key columns and I would like to keep the ids the same on the new database.  How
> do I force rails to use the id I pass into the create method?
>
> This doesn't seem to work:
>
> Example.create(:id => 99, etc...)

I had the same problem and found this to work.

example = Example.new(etc...)
example.id = 99
example.save

From peter at oaktop.com  Mon Oct 23 13:53:58 2006
From: peter at oaktop.com (Peter K Chan)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:53:58 -0400
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <OF55184AB3.30038BA3-ON8625720E.007145E4-0525720E.0071EF84@thoughtworks.com>
Message-ID: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E71A08@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>

The meeting is finalized.

Mike Culver, from Amazon.com, will be coming to talk to us about Amazon.com web services on Thursday, November 16.

I requested that he include some coding exercise; let's see if he can do that.

Peter
________________________________________
From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Josh Cronemeyer
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:44 PM
To: Chirb discussion list
Subject: Re: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?


I've got a handle on our move schedule now. ?It looks like we will still be at the old location until the Dec. Meeting. ?We are moving our network on Friday the 17th of November, so any time before then will be fine. ?Let me know if we get a conformation from Mike on the 16th and I will make all the arrangements on our end. 

Are we also still considering a hands on portion afterwards? ?If so it might be interesting to have that section cover Why's Park Place. ?You know, to compare and contrast. 

Josh Cronemeyer 

chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org wrote on 10/21/2006 11:20:42 AM:

> On 10/20/06, Peter K Chan <peter at oaktop.com> wrote: 
> So, the news I got from Mike is as follow:
> 
> For November, he could do Thursday, November 16. Otherwise, he 
> suggests sometime in February, TBD.
> 
> Chirbers: Can we do a Thursday night meeting?
> 
> Josh: Does it look like ThoughtWorks would be in the new location by 
> November 16? 
> 
> I'd like to do Nov. 16 if possible.
> 
> Also, CashNetUSA mentioned interest in hosting sometime -- anybody 
> else interested in hosting and buying pizza if ThoughtWorks isn't 
> available for November? 
> 
> -- 
> Ryan Platte _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list

From tomkersten98 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 23 15:35:21 2006
From: tomkersten98 at gmail.com (Tom Kersten)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:35:21 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E71A08@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
References: <OF55184AB3.30038BA3-ON8625720E.007145E4-0525720E.0071EF84@thoughtworks.com>
	<EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E71A08@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
Message-ID: <20c8f9e00610231235j2a57188fv538e6786e29ff5ad@mail.gmail.com>

sweet. nice work guys...I'm looking forward to this one.

-tom

On 10/23/06, Peter K Chan <peter at oaktop.com> wrote:
>
> The meeting is finalized.
>
> Mike Culver, from Amazon.com, will be coming to talk to us about
> Amazon.com web services on Thursday, November 16.
>
> I requested that he include some coding exercise; let's see if he can do
> that.
>
> Peter
> ________________________________________
> From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:
> chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Josh
> Cronemeyer
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:44 PM
> To: Chirb discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
>
>
> I've got a handle on our move schedule now. It looks like we will still be
> at the old location until the Dec. Meeting. We are moving our network on
> Friday the 17th of November, so any time before then will be fine. Let me
> know if we get a conformation from Mike on the 16th and I will make all the
> arrangements on our end.
>
> Are we also still considering a hands on portion afterwards? If so it
> might be interesting to have that section cover Why's Park Place. You know,
> to compare and contrast.
>
> Josh Cronemeyer
>
> chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org wrote on 10/21/2006
> 11:20:42 AM:
>
> > On 10/20/06, Peter K Chan <peter at oaktop.com> wrote:
> > So, the news I got from Mike is as follow:
> >
> > For November, he could do Thursday, November 16. Otherwise, he
> > suggests sometime in February, TBD.
> >
> > Chirbers: Can we do a Thursday night meeting?
> >
> > Josh: Does it look like ThoughtWorks would be in the new location by
> > November 16?
> >
> > I'd like to do Nov. 16 if possible.
> >
> > Also, CashNetUSA mentioned interest in hosting sometime -- anybody
> > else interested in hosting and buying pizza if ThoughtWorks isn't
> > available for November?
> >
> > --
> > Ryan Platte _______________________________________________
> > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
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From tet11_2001 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 23 13:36:21 2006
From: tet11_2001 at yahoo.com (Nick)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:36:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Chirb] Question about magic columns in rails and rails hosting
In-Reply-To: <4ab757a40610221031p6b6567c0h7b55424962974a68@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20061023173621.44571.qmail@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for help!

-Nick

----- Original Message ----
From: Shane Vitarana <shanev at gmail.com>
To: Chirb discussion list <chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 12:31:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Chirb] Question about magic columns in rails and rails hosting

Hey Nick,

I believe create() assumes you are passing in non-id attributes and
returns the id generated by the DB.  Try using new() passing in a
block of attributes instead, and do a save() afterwards.

For VPS hosting, I've heard good things about Rimuhosting
<http://rimuhosting.com/>.  They let you choose a distro and provide
root access.  I've also been curious about Media Temple's new
Grid-Server package <http://www.mediatemple.net/webhosting/gs/>.  I'm
not sure if they give you root though.

Shane Vitarana
http://shanesbrain.net

On 10/22/06, Nick <tet11_2001 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am doing a data migration from an existing database into my rails mysql database.  I have some foreign key columns and I would like to keep the ids the same on the new database.  How do I force rails to use the id I pass into the create method?
>
> This doesn't seem to work:
>
> Example.create(:id => 99, etc...)
>
> Also, does anyone have any recommendations for rails hosting?  I found a company called A2hosting that looks to do what I want.  Does anyone have any recommendations or words of advice?
>
> Thanks,
> -Nick Malnick
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
_______________________________________________
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From cohen.jeff at gmail.com  Mon Oct 23 18:10:54 2006
From: cohen.jeff at gmail.com (Jeff Cohen)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:10:54 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <20c8f9e00610231235j2a57188fv538e6786e29ff5ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <OF55184AB3.30038BA3-ON8625720E.007145E4-0525720E.0071EF84@thoughtworks.com>
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	<20c8f9e00610231235j2a57188fv538e6786e29ff5ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3d7e01550610231510l14a7e477i67ebe7f4e846c169@mail.gmail.com>

Will Ruby somehow be involved during the meeting?

On 10/23/06, Tom Kersten <tomkersten98 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> sweet. nice work guys...I'm looking forward to this one.
>
> -tom
>
> On 10/23/06, Peter K Chan <peter at oaktop.com > wrote:
> >
> > The meeting is finalized.
> >
> > Mike Culver, from Amazon.com, will be coming to talk to us about
> > Amazon.com web services on Thursday, November 16.
> >
> > I requested that he include some coding exercise; let's see if he can do
> > that.
> >
> > Peter
> > ________________________________________
> > From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org]
> > On Behalf Of Josh Cronemeyer
> > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:44 PM
> > To: Chirb discussion list
> > Subject: Re: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
> >
> >
> > I've got a handle on our move schedule now. It looks like we will still
> > be at the old location until the Dec. Meeting. We are moving our network on
> > Friday the 17th of November, so any time before then will be fine. Let me
> > know if we get a conformation from Mike on the 16th and I will make all the
> > arrangements on our end.
> >
> > Are we also still considering a hands on portion afterwards? If so it
> > might be interesting to have that section cover Why's Park Place. You know,
> > to compare and contrast.
> >
> > Josh Cronemeyer
> >
> > chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org wrote on 10/21/2006
> > 11:20:42 AM:
> >
> > > On 10/20/06, Peter K Chan <peter at oaktop.com> wrote:
> > > So, the news I got from Mike is as follow:
> > >
> > > For November, he could do Thursday, November 16. Otherwise, he
> > > suggests sometime in February, TBD.
> > >
> > > Chirbers: Can we do a Thursday night meeting?
> > >
> > > Josh: Does it look like ThoughtWorks would be in the new location by
> > > November 16?
> > >
> > > I'd like to do Nov. 16 if possible.
> > >
> > > Also, CashNetUSA mentioned interest in hosting sometime -- anybody
> > > else interested in hosting and buying pizza if ThoughtWorks isn't
> > > available for November?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ryan Platte _______________________________________________
> > > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> > _______________________________________________
> > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> >
>
>
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From mrnicksgirl at gmail.com  Mon Oct 23 18:58:17 2006
From: mrnicksgirl at gmail.com (Nola Stowe)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:58:17 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <3d7e01550610231510l14a7e477i67ebe7f4e846c169@mail.gmail.com>
References: <OF55184AB3.30038BA3-ON8625720E.007145E4-0525720E.0071EF84@thoughtworks.com>
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	<3d7e01550610231510l14a7e477i67ebe7f4e846c169@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43e95380610231558l34412e3cg94f0127817a1766e@mail.gmail.com>

Umm ... Its webservices.... anything that can do soap or rest can use it.


On 10/23/06, Jeff Cohen <cohen.jeff at gmail.com> wrote:
> Will Ruby somehow be involved during the meeting?
>
>
> On 10/23/06, Tom Kersten <tomkersten98 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > sweet. nice work guys...I'm looking forward to this one.
> >
> > -tom
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/23/06, Peter K Chan < peter at oaktop.com > wrote:
> > > The meeting is finalized.
> > >
> > > Mike Culver, from Amazon.com, will be coming to talk to us about
> Amazon.com web services on Thursday, November 16.
> > >
> > > I requested that he include some coding exercise; let's see if he can do
> that.
> > >
> > > Peter
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org
> [mailto: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org]
> On Behalf Of Josh Cronemeyer
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:44 PM
> > > To: Chirb discussion list
> > > Subject: Re: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
> > >
> > >
> > > I've got a handle on our move schedule now. It looks like we will still
> be at the old location until the Dec. Meeting. We are moving our network on
> Friday the 17th of November, so any time before then will be fine. Let me
> know if we get a conformation from Mike on the 16th and I will make all the
> arrangements on our end.
> > >
> > > Are we also still considering a hands on portion afterwards? If so it
> might be interesting to have that section cover Why's Park Place. You know,
> to compare and contrast.
> > >
> > > Josh Cronemeyer
> > >
> > > chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org wrote
> on 10/21/2006 11:20:42 AM:
> > >
> > > > On 10/20/06, Peter K Chan < peter at oaktop.com> wrote:
> > > > So, the news I got from Mike is as follow:
> > > >
> > > > For November, he could do Thursday, November 16. Otherwise, he
> > > > suggests sometime in February, TBD.
> > > >
> > > > Chirbers: Can we do a Thursday night meeting?
> > > >
> > > > Josh: Does it look like ThoughtWorks would be in the new location by
> > > > November 16?
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to do Nov. 16 if possible.
> > > >
> > > > Also, CashNetUSA mentioned interest in hosting sometime -- anybody
> > > > else interested in hosting and buying pizza if ThoughtWorks isn't
> > > > available for November?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ryan Platte
> _______________________________________________
> > > > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> > > >
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> > >
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> >
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> >
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
>


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From marcel at vernix.org  Mon Oct 23 19:10:32 2006
From: marcel at vernix.org (Marcel Molina Jr.)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:10:32 +0000
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <3d7e01550610231510l14a7e477i67ebe7f4e846c169@mail.gmail.com>
References: <OF55184AB3.30038BA3-ON8625720E.007145E4-0525720E.0071EF84@thoughtworks.com>
	<EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E71A08@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
	<20c8f9e00610231235j2a57188fv538e6786e29ff5ad@mail.gmail.com>
	<3d7e01550610231510l14a7e477i67ebe7f4e846c169@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20061023231032.GQ11559@comox.textdrive.com>

On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 05:10:54PM -0500, Jeff Cohen wrote:
> Will Ruby somehow be involved during the meeting?

I am about to release an S3 library. If there is time left at the end I'd be
glad to give a quick tour of the code and demonstrate its API.

marcel
-- 
Marcel Molina Jr. <marcel at vernix.org>

From marcel at vernix.org  Mon Oct 23 19:12:01 2006
From: marcel at vernix.org (Marcel Molina Jr.)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:12:01 +0000
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <20061023231032.GQ11559@comox.textdrive.com>
References: <OF55184AB3.30038BA3-ON8625720E.007145E4-0525720E.0071EF84@thoughtworks.com>
	<EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E71A08@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
	<20c8f9e00610231235j2a57188fv538e6786e29ff5ad@mail.gmail.com>
	<3d7e01550610231510l14a7e477i67ebe7f4e846c169@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061023231032.GQ11559@comox.textdrive.com>
Message-ID: <20061023231201.GR11559@comox.textdrive.com>

On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 11:10:32PM +0000, Marcel Molina Jr. wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 05:10:54PM -0500, Jeff Cohen wrote:
> > Will Ruby somehow be involved during the meeting?
> 
> I am about to release an S3 library. If there is time left at the end I'd be
> glad to give a quick tour of the code and demonstrate its API.

Oh, gah, scratch that, I have a previous engagment on the 16th. Bummer :(

marcel
-- 
Marcel Molina Jr. <marcel at vernix.org>

From ryan at platte.name  Mon Oct 23 19:49:02 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:49:02 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Presenter on Amazon S3?
In-Reply-To: <20061023231201.GR11559@comox.textdrive.com>
References: <OF55184AB3.30038BA3-ON8625720E.007145E4-0525720E.0071EF84@thoughtworks.com>
	<EF1DE92DE55C044FA9AC700DFFAF9091E71A08@ntxbeus05.exchange.xchg>
	<20c8f9e00610231235j2a57188fv538e6786e29ff5ad@mail.gmail.com>
	<3d7e01550610231510l14a7e477i67ebe7f4e846c169@mail.gmail.com>
	<20061023231032.GQ11559@comox.textdrive.com>
	<20061023231201.GR11559@comox.textdrive.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0610231649vb1bc8bfhbee971d20c40c61b@mail.gmail.com>

Marcel, sorry you can't swing by, but you may yet be useful to our
cause...<wrings hands>

Can you give us some inspiration for something we can collaborate on as a
coding exercise?

On 10/23/06, Marcel Molina Jr. <marcel at vernix.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 11:10:32PM +0000, Marcel Molina Jr. wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 05:10:54PM -0500, Jeff Cohen wrote:
> > > Will Ruby somehow be involved during the meeting?
> >
> > I am about to release an S3 library. If there is time left at the end
> I'd be
> > glad to give a quick tour of the code and demonstrate its API.
>
> Oh, gah, scratch that, I have a previous engagment on the 16th. Bummer :(
>
> marcel
> --
> Marcel Molina Jr. <marcel at vernix.org>
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>



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From kevin at obtiva.com  Mon Oct 23 22:15:17 2006
From: kevin at obtiva.com (Kevin P. Taylor)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:15:17 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Question about magic columns in rails and rails hosting
In-Reply-To: <20061022164030.93522.qmail@web82802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20061022164030.93522.qmail@web82802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <380D711F-1D29-41AC-8850-4977FCBCDE29@obtiva.com>

http://www.openhosting.com is a very solid virtual root host that  
runs on a "utility pricing" model. The more resources you use, the  
more you are charged.

--Kevin P. Taylor
Obtiva Corp.
Training and Consulting
Direct: 630.456.1388
Fax: 315.351.1388

www.obtiva.com



On Oct 22, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Nick wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am doing a data migration from an existing database into my rails  
> mysql database.  I have some foreign key columns and I would like  
> to keep the ids the same on the new database.  How do I force rails  
> to use the id I pass into the create method?
>
> This doesn't seem to work:
>
> Example.create(:id => 99, etc...)
>
> Also, does anyone have any recommendations for rails hosting?  I  
> found a company called A2hosting that looks to do what I want.   
> Does anyone have any recommendations or words of advice?
>
> Thanks,
> -Nick Malnick
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list


From jcroneme at thoughtworks.com  Tue Oct 24 16:23:00 2006
From: jcroneme at thoughtworks.com (Josh Cronemeyer)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:23:00 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Who updates the RSVP site?
In-Reply-To: <380D711F-1D29-41AC-8850-4977FCBCDE29@obtiva.com>
Message-ID: <OF30930587.4C626DA3-ON86257211.006FCB26-05257211.006FF847@thoughtworks.com>

I was going to RSVP for the Nov. meeting but the event isn't on the site 
yet.  We should get that up soon.

Josh Cronemeyer
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From chris.mcavoy at gmail.com  Tue Oct 24 17:26:43 2006
From: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com (Chris McAvoy)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:26:43 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Update on Stairs
Message-ID: <3096c19d0610241426n4a549281u634f0c497daa2794@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I took the pictures of the stairs into the Dept. of Buildings today.
There's two problems.  The first is the stair damage is such that they
(the Dept. of Buildings) requires a licensed architect to draw up
plans.  I confirmed this with several people in the office, and a
supervisor at another office.  I think it's silly, but it's the city,
so I guess that's the way it is.  The second thing is, the stop work
order for the basement affects the whole building.  So, until that
situation is resolved, we can't have any permits issued for the
stairs.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the stair situation isn't
going to be as easy to resolve as we thought.

Chris

From chris.mcavoy at gmail.com  Tue Oct 24 17:32:11 2006
From: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com (Chris McAvoy)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:32:11 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Fwd: Update on Stairs
In-Reply-To: <3096c19d0610241426n4a549281u634f0c497daa2794@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3096c19d0610241426n4a549281u634f0c497daa2794@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3096c19d0610241432s40588b2fxe4da50fbfe3cc4fb@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Chirb.

It turns out, you guys are right next to the President of my condo
association in my fancy web 2.0 gmail address book.

Sorry all.

However, if anyone can use Ruby to make the City of Chicago issue us a
building permit, that would be pretty awesome.

As a total aside, if any of you are currently renting, and you're all
"boy, I wish I could own a condo" avoid it at all costs.  All of a
sudden, you have to be all responsible.  It turns out, responsibility
sucks.  Rent.  For as long as you can.

Chris

---------- Forwarded message ----------

Hi All,

I took the pictures of the stairs into the Dept. of Buildings today.
There's two problems.  The first is the stair damage is such that they
(the Dept. of Buildings) requires a licensed architect to draw up
plans.  I confirmed this with several people in the office, and a
supervisor at another office.  I think it's silly, but it's the city,
so I guess that's the way it is.  The second thing is, the stop work
order for the basement affects the whole building.  So, until that
situation is resolved, we can't have any permits issued for the
stairs.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the stair situation isn't
going to be as easy to resolve as we thought.

Chris

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Tue Oct 24 20:19:45 2006
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:19:45 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] T1 Providers
Message-ID: <49d805d70610241719u47114bfetadf8a265b2a31d79@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have a T1 provider that they could recommend or any that I
should be warned about?  My building is considering changing providers
because we are paying way too much now, but some of the deals seem too
good for me to believe that there is a decent service provider behind
them.

Thanks,
Josh

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Tue Oct 24 21:32:07 2006
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:32:07 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] [Chicago] T1 Providers
In-Reply-To: <a5375ad50610241821v8b9f868m471b59ee300d87a0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49d805d70610241719u47114bfetadf8a265b2a31d79@mail.gmail.com>
	<a5375ad50610241821v8b9f868m471b59ee300d87a0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70610241832p5f7cef32qa690dfc50e0847da@mail.gmail.com>

> Have you checked out onShore (http://www.onShore.com/)?  I know that
> they light residential buildings, and although I can't speak to that
> particular service, we've got a server hosted in their colo and have
> been pretty happy with their uptime and net connectivity.  Their
> monthly T1 charges start at $399 and they're good guys.

They are who we are with now... let me just say that we pay well over
the $399 and probably need to just re-eval the contract.  Good to see
that they came up as decent though.

From mrnicksgirl at gmail.com  Tue Oct 24 23:57:01 2006
From: mrnicksgirl at gmail.com (Nola Stowe)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:57:01 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Fwd: Update on Stairs
In-Reply-To: <3096c19d0610241432s40588b2fxe4da50fbfe3cc4fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3096c19d0610241426n4a549281u634f0c497daa2794@mail.gmail.com>
	<3096c19d0610241432s40588b2fxe4da50fbfe3cc4fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43e95380610242057q376dc3cbr134e4517d51dba5@mail.gmail.com>

Ohh.. I thought perhaps you were proposing Ruby On Stairs ...



On 10/24/06, Chris McAvoy <chris.mcavoy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Chirb.
>
> It turns out, you guys are right next to the President of my condo
> association in my fancy web 2.0 gmail address book.
>
> Sorry all.
>
> However, if anyone can use Ruby to make the City of Chicago issue us a
> building permit, that would be pretty awesome.
>
> As a total aside, if any of you are currently renting, and you're all
> "boy, I wish I could own a condo" avoid it at all costs.  All of a
> sudden, you have to be all responsible.  It turns out, responsibility
> sucks.  Rent.  For as long as you can.
>
> Chris
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>
> Hi All,
>
> I took the pictures of the stairs into the Dept. of Buildings today.
> There's two problems.  The first is the stair damage is such that they
> (the Dept. of Buildings) requires a licensed architect to draw up
> plans.  I confirmed this with several people in the office, and a
> supervisor at another office.  I think it's silly, but it's the city,
> so I guess that's the way it is.  The second thing is, the stop work
> order for the basement affects the whole building.  So, until that
> situation is resolved, we can't have any permits issued for the
> stairs.
>
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the stair situation isn't
> going to be as easy to resolve as we thought.
>
> Chris
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>


-- 
http://rubygeek.com - my blog featuring: Ruby, PHP and Perl
http://DevChix.com - boys can't have all the fun
http://CodeSnipers.com

From fitz at red-bean.com  Tue Oct 24 21:21:01 2006
From: fitz at red-bean.com (Brian W. Fitzpatrick)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:21:01 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] [Chicago] T1 Providers
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70610241719u47114bfetadf8a265b2a31d79@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49d805d70610241719u47114bfetadf8a265b2a31d79@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a5375ad50610241821v8b9f868m471b59ee300d87a0@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/24/06, Joshua McAdams <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have a T1 provider that they could recommend or any that I
> should be warned about?  My building is considering changing providers
> because we are paying way too much now, but some of the deals seem too
> good for me to believe that there is a decent service provider behind
> them.

Have you checked out onShore (http://www.onShore.com/)?  I know that
they light residential buildings, and although I can't speak to that
particular service, we've got a server hosted in their colo and have
been pretty happy with their uptime and net connectivity.  Their
monthly T1 charges start at $399 and they're good guys.

You'd probably want to talk to Nick Valavanis or Andy Freivogel.  Tell
'em I sent ya. :-)

Full disclosure: I used to work there in the '90's.

-Fitz

From ryan at platte.name  Wed Oct 25 21:01:28 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:01:28 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] November: Amazon Web Services, Park Place
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0610251801q3d9a1183s1583e969034dcfa0@mail.gmail.com>

Please RSVP: http://chirb.org/uger/event/show/7

We're open to anyone interested in Ruby. Please invite people and post
this anywhere relevant.

To take part in the coding mayhem that will ensue, bring along your
computer with Park Place installed:

http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/parkplace

Amazon Web Services: S3, EC2 and more

Thursday November 16, 2006 06:30 PM

What's possible in a post Web 2.0 world? Innovation continues at a
mind-bending pace, and this presentation will showcase some
thought-provoking new directions that Web Services are headed in. The
presentation will provide an overview of Amazon Web Services,
including a Web service named Mechanical Turk that allows computers to
make requests of people, an online object store, and more. You'll also
see a walk-thru showing how to set up virtual Linux servers.

Amazon spent ten years and over $2 billion developing a world-class
technology and content platform that powers Amazon web sites for
millions of customers. Most people think "Amazon.com" when they hear
the word; however developers are excited to learn that there is a
separate technology arm of the company, known as Amazon Web Services
or AWS. Using AWS, developers can build software applications
leveraging the same robust, scalable, and reliable technology that
powers Amazon's retail business. AWS has now launched eleven services
with open API's for developers to build applications, with the result
that over 200,000 developers have registered on Amazon's developer
site to create applications based on these services.

Mike Culver, from Amazon.com, will be talking to us about AWS.

Location:
ThoughtWorks
651 W. Washington Blvd. Suite 600
Chicago , IL 60661
(312) 373-1000

After Hour Access
The building entrance on Desplaines will be open until 7. The
elevators will be on until 7 as well so that people can get to the 6th
floor.

Directions
Take the Washington exit off of 94/90. ThoughtWorks is at the corner
of Desplaines and Washington.

Food
Our kind sponsor, ThoughtWorks, will provide pizza and soda pop for
your eating enjoyment.

-- 
Ryan Platte

From steverummel at comcast.net  Sat Oct 28 10:17:44 2006
From: steverummel at comcast.net (Steven Rummel)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:17:44 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Forest Park Ruby Meetup
Message-ID: <3219A034-BF83-4256-B37E-8033587CE433@comcast.net>

Good Morning Chirb members -

I am the organizer of a Ruby meetup in Forest Park, IL. We are having  
our first meetup Nov. 5, and some of the Ruby meetup members are also  
Chirb members - one suggested we set up a chat session after our  
meetup for those Chirb members interested. We have a poll set up on  
our meetup site - http://ruby.meetup.com/77/

If this is of interest to you, please take a few minutes to check out  
the poll and respond. You are also, of course, welcome to attend the  
meetup 'live'.

I hope my posting here is not unwelcome - it is not my intent to  
compete with Chirb (I promote Chirb on our meetup pages) but merely  
to provide another outlet for those in the community wanting to learn  
and work with Ruby and related technologies.

Thank you for your time -

Sincerely,

Steve R.

From ryan at platte.name  Mon Oct 30 14:11:38 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:11:38 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Forest Park Ruby Meetup
In-Reply-To: <3219A034-BF83-4256-B37E-8033587CE433@comcast.net>
References: <3219A034-BF83-4256-B37E-8033587CE433@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0610301111ob3ac5cble231db4768b4acb4@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/28/06, Steven Rummel <steverummel at comcast.net> wrote:
> Good Morning Chirb members -
>
> I am the organizer of a Ruby meetup in Forest Park, IL.
...
> I hope my posting here is not unwelcome - it is not my intent to
> compete with Chirb (I promote Chirb on our meetup pages) but merely
> to provide another outlet for those in the community wanting to learn
> and work with Ruby and related technologies.

No worries at all -- it sounds like our goals are very closely
aligned, and we're always looking for ways to enrich ourselves and
each other as Ruby developers, so the different things you try will be
interesting to see.

In fact, if you like we could just include y'all in the Chirb name and
you could have extra Chirb meetings that happen to be in a different
location. Might save some bucks on the meetup group, and help us
continue to build steam to do cool things together.

I'm interested in your thoughts about this idea.

-- 
Ryan Platte

From cosine at cosine.org  Tue Oct 31 10:53:28 2006
From: cosine at cosine.org (Michael H Buselli)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:53:28 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Forest Park Ruby Meetup
In-Reply-To: <2f1a1dcb0610301111ob3ac5cble231db4768b4acb4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3219A034-BF83-4256-B37E-8033587CE433@comcast.net>
	<2f1a1dcb0610301111ob3ac5cble231db4768b4acb4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <406d2d610610310753w22ddacfdw5e1d780f9c2802f0@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/30/06, Ryan Platte <ryan at platte.name> wrote:
> On 10/28/06, Steven Rummel <steverummel at comcast.net> wrote:
> > I am the organizer of a Ruby meetup in Forest Park, IL.

> In fact, if you like we could just include y'all in the Chirb name and
> you could have extra Chirb meetings that happen to be in a different
> location. Might save some bucks on the meetup group, and help us
> continue to build steam to do cool things together.
>
> I'm interested in your thoughts about this idea.

I, for one, would welcome having the meetings from both locations on
the main Chirb Uger site.

--Michael

From qzzzq1 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 31 11:58:24 2006
From: qzzzq1 at gmail.com (colin h)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:58:24 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Forest Park Ruby Meetup
In-Reply-To: <406d2d610610310753w22ddacfdw5e1d780f9c2802f0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3219A034-BF83-4256-B37E-8033587CE433@comcast.net>
	<2f1a1dcb0610301111ob3ac5cble231db4768b4acb4@mail.gmail.com>
	<406d2d610610310753w22ddacfdw5e1d780f9c2802f0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <507da57a0610310858w4bcd9559p6759931b7dfba5df@mail.gmail.com>

i agree!  lets expand the chirb empire!!!!

-colin

On 10/31/06, Michael H Buselli <cosine at cosine.org> wrote:
> On 10/30/06, Ryan Platte <ryan at platte.name> wrote:
> > On 10/28/06, Steven Rummel <steverummel at comcast.net> wrote:
> > > I am the organizer of a Ruby meetup in Forest Park, IL.
>
> > In fact, if you like we could just include y'all in the Chirb name and
> > you could have extra Chirb meetings that happen to be in a different
> > location. Might save some bucks on the meetup group, and help us
> > continue to build steam to do cool things together.
> >
> > I'm interested in your thoughts about this idea.
>
> I, for one, would welcome having the meetings from both locations on
> the main Chirb Uger site.
>
> --Michael
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>

From ryan at platte.name  Tue Oct 31 12:25:44 2006
From: ryan at platte.name (Ryan Platte)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:25:44 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Forest Park Ruby Meetup
In-Reply-To: <406d2d610610310753w22ddacfdw5e1d780f9c2802f0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3219A034-BF83-4256-B37E-8033587CE433@comcast.net>
	<2f1a1dcb0610301111ob3ac5cble231db4768b4acb4@mail.gmail.com>
	<406d2d610610310753w22ddacfdw5e1d780f9c2802f0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0610310925l2080349bxe6701e28d9400d18@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/31/06, Michael H Buselli <cosine at cosine.org> wrote:
> I, for one, would welcome having the meetings from both locations on
> the main Chirb Uger site.

Can't resist:

I, for one, welcome our new Forest Park overlords.

-- 
Ryan Platte