[Chirb] Rails Scaling Experience?

Nate Kirby natebkirby at yahoo.com
Thu May 29 12:20:00 EDT 2008


I personnally would love to get an experienced engineers take on 
performance, scaling, profiling and RoR.  This might make for a great 
session at Chirb.  At least seeing the email traffic would be 
interesting to me.

Blessings,
Nate

Leon Chism wrote:
>
> Hi Troy. I'm currently the CTO of a Rails based startup called 
> Viewpoints.com and was formerly the Chief Architect at Orbitz, so I 
> know a bit about scale, Java, and Ruby. I'd like to help if I can, but 
> it probably makes sense to get into the details of their concerns. If 
> you want to do that on this list, that's fine, otherwise you can email 
> me directly at leon at chism dot org.
>
> To get the conversation started:
>
> I'm curious what "large scale Rails deployment" means to you. We are 
> not small, but we aren't huge either (Alexa 38,040; Compete 5,684). We 
> have spent a fair amount of time thinking about the metrics to track 
> and how to recreate some of the tools we used in the Java world for 
> ops/monitoring/management.
>
> It sounds like the issue is scaling but might also be 
> operationalization of the platform. Have they raised more specific 
> concerns than "we know java better"?
>
> leon
>
> On May 27, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Troy Denkinger wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm right in the midst of advocating for use of Rails on a project I'm
>> in the middle of.  I manage a team that has created a service that
>> runs on Rails.  To date we've been in development and haven't had any
>> serious outside usage, nor have we deployed on production-ready
>> hardware.  We are very happy with the ease of development, how
>> responsive we can be to the business requirements, and the support
>> we've found within the community at large.
>>
>> Recently we have been asked to merge our service into an existing
>> company that has always used a Java stack in their development.  They
>> have a couple developers and an operations team that is comfortable
>> with Java.  The major concern about using our Rails code is that they
>> are concerned with scaling of Rails apps in general, and they are
>> using that concern to advocate a port of the existing Rails code to
>> their Java stack.
>>
>> I know one thing that would make the Ops team happy is to talk to
>> someone who has actual experience with large-scale Rails deployments.
>> I think they're being rightly pragmatic about this, and I'd like to
>> find them someone to talk to.  Anyone know anyone who would be willing
>> to talk a bit about what they've done to scale a Rails installation?
>> I'm sure I could work up some sort of compensation for someone with
>> relevant experience who'd like to share it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Troy
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