[Chirb] Rails Scaling Experience?

[Nate Kirby]

I will be out during July - Could this topic wait until Aug? Please?

Lydia Tripp wrote:
> So what is on the docket for July?  I second that as an excellent topic.
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Troy Denkinger <tdenkinger at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> I agree, Nate.  I've gotten some great and thoughtful responses both
>> on the list and privately from my original posting.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Nate Kirby <natebkirby at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> I personnally would love to get an experienced engineers take on
>>> performance, scaling, profiling and RoR.  This might make for a great
>>> session at Chirb.  At least seeing the email traffic would be interesting to
>>> me.
>>>
>>> Blessings,
>>> Nate
>>>
>>> Leon Chism wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Hi Troy. I'm currently the CTO of a Rails based startup called
>>>> Viewpoints.com and was formerly the Chief Architect at Orbitz, so I know a
>>>> bit about scale, Java, and Ruby. I'd like to help if I can, but it probably
>>>> makes sense to get into the details of their concerns. If you want to do
>>>> that on this list, that's fine, otherwise you can email me directly at leon
>>>> at chism dot org.
>>>>
>>>> To get the conversation started:
>>>>
>>>> I'm curious what "large scale Rails deployment" means to you. We are not
>>>> small, but we aren't huge either (Alexa 38,040; Compete 5,684). We have
>>>> spent a fair amount of time thinking about the metrics to track and how to
>>>> recreate some of the tools we used in the Java world for
>>>> ops/monitoring/management.
>>>>
>>>> It sounds like the issue is scaling but might also be operationalization
>>>> of the platform. Have they raised more specific concerns than "we know java
>>>> better"?
>>>>
>>>> leon
>>>>
>>>> On May 27, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Troy Denkinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm right in the midst of advocating for use of Rails on a project I'm
>>>>> in the middle of.  I manage a team that has created a service that
>>>>> runs on Rails.  To date we've been in development and haven't had any
>>>>> serious outside usage, nor have we deployed on production-ready
>>>>> hardware.  We are very happy with the ease of development, how
>>>>> responsive we can be to the business requirements, and the support
>>>>> we've found within the community at large.
>>>>>
>>>>> Recently we have been asked to merge our service into an existing
>>>>> company that has always used a Java stack in their development.  They
>>>>> have a couple developers and an operations team that is comfortable
>>>>> with Java.  The major concern about using our Rails code is that they
>>>>> are concerned with scaling of Rails apps in general, and they are
>>>>> using that concern to advocate a port of the existing Rails code to
>>>>> their Java stack.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know one thing that would make the Ops team happy is to talk to
>>>>> someone who has actual experience with large-scale Rails deployments.
>>>>> I think they're being rightly pragmatic about this, and I'd like to
>>>>> find them someone to talk to.  Anyone know anyone who would be willing
>>>>> to talk a bit about what they've done to scale a Rails installation?
>>>>> I'm sure I could work up some sort of compensation for someone with
>>>>> relevant experience who'd like to share it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy
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