[Chirb] Rails Scaling Experience?

[Josh Cronemeyer]

Nothing is on the docket for July.

Josh Cronemeyer



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So what is on the docket for July?  I second that as an excellent topic.

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Troy Denkinger <tdenkinger at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> I agree, Nate.  I've gotten some great and thoughtful responses both
> on the list and privately from my original posting.
>
> Troy
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Nate Kirby <natebkirby at yahoo.com> 
wrote:
>> I personnally would love to get an experienced engineers take on
>> performance, scaling, profiling and RoR.  This might make for a great
>> session at Chirb.  At least seeing the email traffic would be 
interesting to
>> me.
>>
>> Blessings,
>> Nate
>>
>> Leon Chism wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Troy. I'm currently the CTO of a Rails based startup called
>>> Viewpoints.com and was formerly the Chief Architect at Orbitz, so I 
know a
>>> bit about scale, Java, and Ruby. I'd like to help if I can, but it 
probably
>>> makes sense to get into the details of their concerns. If you want to 
do
>>> that on this list, that's fine, otherwise you can email me directly at 
leon
>>> at chism dot org.
>>>
>>> To get the conversation started:
>>>
>>> I'm curious what "large scale Rails deployment" means to you. We are 
not
>>> small, but we aren't huge either (Alexa 38,040; Compete 5,684). We 
have
>>> spent a fair amount of time thinking about the metrics to track and 
how to
>>> recreate some of the tools we used in the Java world for
>>> ops/monitoring/management.
>>>
>>> It sounds like the issue is scaling but might also be 
operationalization
>>> of the platform. Have they raised more specific concerns than "we know 
java
>>> better"?
>>>
>>> leon
>>>
>>> On May 27, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Troy Denkinger wrote:
>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> I'm right in the midst of advocating for use of Rails on a project 
I'm
>>>> in the middle of.  I manage a team that has created a service that
>>>> runs on Rails.  To date we've been in development and haven't had any
>>>> serious outside usage, nor have we deployed on production-ready
>>>> hardware.  We are very happy with the ease of development, how
>>>> responsive we can be to the business requirements, and the support
>>>> we've found within the community at large.
>>>>
>>>> Recently we have been asked to merge our service into an existing
>>>> company that has always used a Java stack in their development.  They
>>>> have a couple developers and an operations team that is comfortable
>>>> with Java.  The major concern about using our Rails code is that they
>>>> are concerned with scaling of Rails apps in general, and they are
>>>> using that concern to advocate a port of the existing Rails code to
>>>> their Java stack.
>>>>
>>>> I know one thing that would make the Ops team happy is to talk to
>>>> someone who has actual experience with large-scale Rails deployments.
>>>> I think they're being rightly pragmatic about this, and I'd like to
>>>> find them someone to talk to.  Anyone know anyone who would be 
willing
>>>> to talk a bit about what they've done to scale a Rails installation?
>>>> I'm sure I could work up some sort of compensation for someone with
>>>> relevant experience who'd like to share it.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Troy
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