From tonkinjs at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  3 18:12:16 2009
From: tonkinjs at yahoo.com (Jonathan Tonkin)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:12:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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Hi, All -- 

Per the subject of Mozilla's open source JavaScript engine that came up last night ... I misspoke.? The name of the project is SpiderMonkey, not Gecko.? It's page at Mozilla.org is here:? 

https://developer.mozilla.org/en/SpiderMonkey 

-- Jon 



--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Andy Maleh <andy at obtiva.com> wrote:
From: Andy Maleh <andy at obtiva.com>
Subject: Re: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
To: "Chirb discussion list" <chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org>
Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 4:31 PM

I wish. I have music practice tonight. Let's chat Peter.
Andygtalk: andy at obtiva.com

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Josh Cronemeyer <jcroneme at thoughtworks.com> wrote:



OR you guys could both come to chirb
tonight and talk in person over pizza...



PEACE!

Josh Cronemeyer








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HI Andy,



I'm interested in discussing your usage.



Are you using transactional_fixtures? ? And are you using selenium?



Looking forward to talking more... IRC session maybe?



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On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Andy Maleh <andy at obtiva.com>
wrote:

Peter, will the dog and pony show also include demoing
real-world cases of using Cucumber/RSpec? If not, my colleagues and I may
be able to contribute that to the talk as we've been using Cucumber, RSpec,
and Shoulda-like macros for a while on our project. 



Andy





On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Peter Fitzgibbons <peter.fitzgibbons at gmail..com>
wrote:

runs like rocky -- that's not a vote of confidence for
getting here "in a few hours"





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On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Josh Cronemeyer <jcroneme at thoughtworks.com>
wrote:



Yea! ?Everyone from philly runs just like rocky!




PEACE!

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On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Mike Mangino <mmangino at elevatedrails.com>
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> I'm definitely +1, I wont be there though. The commute from Philly
is just

> too much for me.



Dude - you can run that in just a few hours, can't you?

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From deanwampler at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 14:22:21 2009
From: deanwampler at gmail.com (Dean Wampler)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:22:21 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] ANN: 1st ever Chicago-Area Scala Enthusiasts Meeting,
	2/19 at 	ThoughtWorks
Message-ID: <6cf2a94f0902041122w7f60d421vadb4ff5153c9808@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to Thoughtworks and Josh Cronemeyer, the *Chicago-Area Scala
Enthusiasts* (CASE) will have our first meeting on *Feb. 19* at *6:00* for
Pizza, *6:30* for the meeting. We'll meet regularly on the *third
Thursday*of each month.

For those of you on the CJUG, CHIRB, Chicago Agile, and Polyglot mailing
lists, this will be the last announcement I'll post to your lists. Thanks
for your indulgence.

For the first meeting, I'll do a brief introductory presentation on *The
Seductions of Scala.* (I've rewritten and shortened this presentation from
the one given last year at other groups...) We'll also do some initial
administrivia. Think about other topics you would like to present or hear
about.

Until I set up an automated RSVP system (and volunteers to do that are
welcome!), *please RSVP directly to me* with the number of people in your
"party" who will be attending.

There is a "chicagoscala" google group:
http://groups.google.com/group/chicagoscala

I've also set up a twitter account,  http://twitter.com/chicagoscala. You
can tweet your RSVP to it. I'll also post announcements, etc. through that
account.

*The ThoughtWorks Address
*
ThoughtWorks
Aon Center
200 E. Randolph
Chicago , IL 60601
25th Floor
(312) 373-1000

*Note on After Hour Access
*
The building entrance on Randolph will be open. The security desk will have
the names of all who RSVP'd and will let only those people in. Please RSVP
by noon the day of the event. Use the first bank of elevators on your left
to get up to 25. If you have difficulty or didn't RSVP in time call me at
312-339-1330.

Thanks and see you there!

Dean

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From byennen at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 20:45:19 2009
From: byennen at gmail.com (Lance Ennen)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:45:19 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Looking for Peter Fitzgibbons email address
Message-ID: <38b4ef880902041745t17d25f7bsdebc499f78063aff@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Guys -
I had my Chirb user group email going to an old email address, which I just
updated.

Anyways, I wanted to ask Peter Fitzgibbons a question, but don't have his
email.

Could someone reply to this with his email?

Thanks,
Lance Ennen

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From andy at obtiva.com  Thu Feb  5 08:48:35 2009
From: andy at obtiva.com (Andy Maleh)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:48:35 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Looking for Peter Fitzgibbons email address
In-Reply-To: <38b4ef880902041745t17d25f7bsdebc499f78063aff@mail.gmail.com>
References: <38b4ef880902041745t17d25f7bsdebc499f78063aff@mail.gmail.com>
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Hey Lance,
Here is Peter's email address: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com

Didn't know you lived off Milwaukee. I'm on Milwaukee and Thomas.

Cheers,

Andy

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Lance Ennen <byennen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Guys -
> I had my Chirb user group email going to an old email address, which I just
> updated.
>
> Anyways, I wanted to ask Peter Fitzgibbons a question, but don't have his
> email.
>
> Could someone reply to this with his email?
>
> Thanks,
> Lance Ennen
>
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> 1232 N. Milwaukee Ave
> Suite 3A
> Chicago, IL 60622
> Cell: (312) 402 - 2237
> Skype: ByENNEN
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From christopher.mcmahon at gmail.com  Fri Feb  6 13:47:42 2009
From: christopher.mcmahon at gmail.com (Chris McMahon)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 11:47:42 -0700
Subject: [Chirb] [Boulder Ruby Group] Best approach for a very simple
	REST web service?
In-Reply-To: <c09158680902061009iba558eaq68726c1a57badc84@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c09158680902061009iba558eaq68726c1a57badc84@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <72799cd70902061047l32ab8eadr97efc84bc36a955e@mail.gmail.com>

Forwarded to the Chicago Ruby Brigade in hopes that it's an
interesting question there also.
-Chris

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Bothari <bothari at gmail.com> wrote:
> Group,
>
> At my company I'm looking for opportunities to use Ruby where it makes
> sense.  We need a web service that accepts a post of ~200 bytes of
> data from 500 clients ~5 times per second, persists the body of the
> message to a Berkly database and returns a 200.  Right now the service
> is fronted by Active MQ, but it falls behind during the peak times and
> we're getting rid of it.  The first option is Apache and Tomcat and
> write a simple servlet, but what's a good ruby approach for something
> like this?
>
> Joe
> _______________________________________________
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> Bdrg-members at rubyforge.org
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From peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com  Fri Feb  6 14:23:01 2009
From: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com (Peter Fitzgibbons)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:23:01 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] [Boulder Ruby Group] Best approach for a very simple
	REST web service?
In-Reply-To: <72799cd70902061047l32ab8eadr97efc84bc36a955e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c09158680902061009iba558eaq68726c1a57badc84@mail.gmail.com>
	<72799cd70902061047l32ab8eadr97efc84bc36a955e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <670a00380902061123s68e91501gacb3a246c54f3f8b@mail.gmail.com>

Might look at Sinatra or Merb
http://sinatra.rubyforge.org
http://merbivore.com
Rails team promises to integrate Merb into Rails3.0, so that might influence
the choice.

Peter Fitzgibbons
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On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Chris McMahon <
christopher.mcmahon at gmail.com> wrote:

> Forwarded to the Chicago Ruby Brigade in hopes that it's an
> interesting question there also.
> -Chris
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Bothari <bothari at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Group,
> >
> > At my company I'm looking for opportunities to use Ruby where it makes
> > sense.  We need a web service that accepts a post of ~200 bytes of
> > data from 500 clients ~5 times per second, persists the body of the
> > message to a Berkly database and returns a 200.  Right now the service
> > is fronted by Active MQ, but it falls behind during the peak times and
> > we're getting rid of it.  The first option is Apache and Tomcat and
> > write a simple servlet, but what's a good ruby approach for something
> > like this?
> >
> > Joe
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bdrg-members mailing list
> > Bdrg-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bdrg-members
> >
> _______________________________________________
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From ryan.platte at gmail.com  Fri Feb  6 15:27:44 2009
From: ryan.platte at gmail.com (Ryan Platte)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:27:44 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] [Boulder Ruby Group] Best approach for a very simple
	REST web service?
In-Reply-To: <670a00380902061123s68e91501gacb3a246c54f3f8b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c09158680902061009iba558eaq68726c1a57badc84@mail.gmail.com>
	<72799cd70902061047l32ab8eadr97efc84bc36a955e@mail.gmail.com>
	<670a00380902061123s68e91501gacb3a246c54f3f8b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2f1a1dcb0902061227i300ad332m14f0dda89a91a863@mail.gmail.com>

And Sinatra's already able to integrate with Rails via Metal, so that might
de-influence the choice.

:-)

Ryan


On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Peter Fitzgibbons <
peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com> wrote:

> Might look at Sinatra or Merb
> http://sinatra.rubyforge.org
> http://merbivore.com
> Rails team promises to integrate Merb into Rails3.0, so that might
> influence the choice.
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From cremes.devlist at mac.com  Fri Feb  6 15:03:56 2009
From: cremes.devlist at mac.com (Chuck Remes)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:03:56 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] [Boulder Ruby Group] Best approach for a very
 simple	REST web service?
In-Reply-To: <72799cd70902061047l32ab8eadr97efc84bc36a955e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c09158680902061009iba558eaq68726c1a57badc84@mail.gmail.com>
	<72799cd70902061047l32ab8eadr97efc84bc36a955e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2A0204CF-E5EF-4602-B2EA-851EEACCD853@mac.com>


On Feb 6, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Chris McMahon wrote:

> Forwarded to the Chicago Ruby Brigade in hopes that it's an
> interesting question there also.
> -Chris
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Bothari <bothari at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Group,
>>
>> At my company I'm looking for opportunities to use Ruby where it  
>> makes
>> sense.  We need a web service that accepts a post of ~200 bytes of
>> data from 500 clients ~5 times per second, persists the body of the
>> message to a Berkly database and returns a 200.  Right now the  
>> service
>> is fronted by Active MQ, but it falls behind during the peak times  
>> and
>> we're getting rid of it.  The first option is Apache and Tomcat and
>> write a simple servlet, but what's a good ruby approach for something
>> like this?
>>

If I'm reading this right, the system needs to handle 2500 updates per  
second (500 clients generating 5 updates/sec).

I love ruby but I don't think it's a good choice here. To prove it one  
way or another, you could write a simple proof-of-concept to write a  
random 200 bytes into a Berkeley DB in a tight loop. If it can't keep  
up with that requirement (note that it isn't handling any network IO)  
then you know adding in additional responsibilities (reading the  
network, parsing the data packet, etc) will only make it slower.

cr


From cosine at cosine.org  Fri Feb  6 17:42:49 2009
From: cosine at cosine.org (Michael H Buselli)
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:42:49 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] [Boulder Ruby Group] Best approach for a very simple
	REST web service?
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:03:56 CST."
	<2A0204CF-E5EF-4602-B2EA-851EEACCD853@mac.com> 
Message-ID: <E1LVZPN-0006nA-Hz@li2-47.members.linode.com>

On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:03:56 CST, Chuck Remes wrote:

> If I'm reading this right, the system needs to handle 2500 updates per  
> second (500 clients generating 5 updates/sec).
> 
> I love ruby but I don't think it's a good choice here. To prove it one  
> way or another, you could write a simple proof-of-concept to write a  
> random 200 bytes into a Berkeley DB in a tight loop. If it can't keep  
> up with that requirement (note that it isn't handling any network IO)  
> then you know adding in additional responsibilities (reading the  
> network, parsing the data packet, etc) will only make it slower.

I think the choice of Ruby being good or bad has nothing to do with the
number of transactions per second required; a good architecture will
enable scaling to loads much greater than that.  The question I have
that would decide go or no-go on Ruby is how much does abstraction make
the code easier to create, follow, and update.  Ruby is the best among
the popular language options for abstracting code.  If this is a huge
win on this project, then use Ruby with a well designed architecture.
Then use profiling tools to identify the slow parts and re-write them in
C if the language is the reason they are slow (if the speed can be
improved by a re-write with an n*log(n) algorithm and you are using an
n*n algorithm, re-write the method in Ruby first).  Finally, scale up
the hardware per your well-designed architecture if you still need the
extra capacity.

If this is very simple software doing very simple things and abstraction
will not help make life easier for the future of the product, then by
all means go with Chuck's advice to complete the project in the most
expedient manner.  However, I suppose you should also consider the
abilities of your software architects.  Bad architecture will just be
expensive, useless, and make Ruby look bad to your management.

T\_/T\_/T
Michael H Buselli       http://www.cosine.org/       <cosine at cosine.org>
"You can't build a reputation on the things you are going to do."
                                                            --Henry Ford

From bray at sent.com  Fri Feb  6 11:05:39 2009
From: bray at sent.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:05:39 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] ANN ChiPy February Meeting Thursday, 12th, at Sully's
Message-ID: <7EA2F2FE-48D7-458B-9BCC-3A2F1A09F643@sent.com>

Chicago Python User Group
=========================

Go ChiPy! After last month's hugely successful language comparison  
mayhem, the world's most successful user group strikes again!

Robots and OS Packaging, are the major topic areas.

James Snyder, from Northwestern University's Biomedical Engineering  
Department, will be serializing Arduino microcontroller with Python  
for robotic pursuits.  Jason Huggins, co-founder of Sauce Labs Inc and  
creator of Selenium, will follow up with a quick demo of his Arduino- 
based Ambient Orb clone, called 'orbison' (http://code.google.com/p/orbison/ 
).

For the second part, Cosmin Stejerean, software engineering and  
computer security specialist,  will cover how to package your Python  
package with tools like  py2app and py2exe.  Massimo Di Pierro,  
professor at DePaul CTI, will get some brief help porting his popular  
web2py Enterprise Web Framework to a linux package from a live  
audience. Let's see if it is possible in 10 minutes!

Last but not least, William Scullin, Argonne National Laboratory and  
cheese lover, will present on bcfg2, a tool written in Python for  
system administrators to fingerprint their environment and about  
Python, in general, on IBM's BlueGene /P supercompter.

There will be a moment of silence in respect to Unix Timestamp  
1234567890

Our host for the meeting is Sully's House Tap Room & Grill.  All ages  
are welcome to this Free Private Event.  For those of age, Sully?s  
House offer 20 Beers on tap, and 35 Bottles - all craft and  
microbrewery, specializing in Belgium, Irish and German selections.   
Enjoy great Bar Food & Pizza from our Italian Oven and Daily  
discounted menu specials. The host has given us a dedicated  
bartender.  We will meet in the private party room on the second floor  
that is well equipped with top of the line video equipment ? 100? HD  
screen & full A/V accessibility with Rock Band & Wii. Nice big space,  
bring a friend. Thanks Sully's!!!

This *will* be our best meeting yet.

Topics
------

  * Arduino + Python, James Snyder
  * Orb demo, Jason Huggins
  * py2app and py2exe, Cosmin Stejerean
  * help package web2py for linux, Massimo Di Pierro
  * IBM's BlueGene /P bcfg2, William Scullin

When
----

Thursday, February 12th, ~7pm

Location
--------

Sully?s House Tap Room & Grill, 1501 N. Dayton St. Chicago, Illinois  
60622

At the corner of Blackhawk and Dayton http://www.sullyshouse.com/

(2) Blocks from the North & Clybourn Red Line stop. Free street  
parking available.

About ChiPy
-----------

ChiPy is a group of Chicago Python Programmers, l33t, and n00bs.
Meetings are held monthly at various locations around Chicago.
Also, ChiPy is a proud sponsor of many Open Source and Educational
efforts in Chicago. Stay tuned to the mailing list for more info.

ChiPy website: <http://chipy.org>
ChiPy Mailing List: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago>
ChiPy Announcement *ONLY* Mailing List: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chipy-announce 
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Python website: <http://python.org>



From krschacht at gmail.com  Tue Feb 10 16:12:12 2009
From: krschacht at gmail.com (Keith Schacht)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:12:12 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Interested in Facebook App development?
Message-ID: <9ac004b00902101312j8395edfreef6cce60b21d081@mail.gmail.com>

Here is an event Chirb members may find interesting:
Next Friday, Feb 20th starting at 7pm will be the next Chicago Facebook
Developer Garage.

Where I've Been & Crafted Fun, two of the leading companies on the Facebook
platform, both based here in Chicago, are organizing the 2009 Facebook
Developer Garage.

Come to meet other FB app developers in Chicago, share tips, and get expert
advice from Luke Shepard, a Facebook Platform engineer who will be giving
the keynote presentation.

Full details + RSVP here:
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=59423674771

Please forward this on to others that may be interested in Facebook App
Development.
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From peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com  Fri Feb 13 12:20:43 2009
From: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com (Peter Fitzgibbons)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:20:43 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb. Presentation notes - Cucumber + Webrat + Selenium
Message-ID: <670a00380902130920l1b8dad9fpd3ac4717347dc072@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All,

I have loaded github with the demo rails project + ppt(odt) slides.
You can get it all at
git://github.com/pjfitzgibbons/cucumber-demo.git

The doc is in
doc/Cucumber + Webrat + Selenium.ppt (or .odp if you prefer OpenOffice)

Thanks for the comments and feedback during and after the session!

Peter Fitzgibbons
(847) 687-7646
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From jcroneme at thoughtworks.com  Tue Feb 17 14:56:07 2009
From: jcroneme at thoughtworks.com (Josh Cronemeyer)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:56:07 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] time to volunteer to present
Message-ID: <OF1E320B76.62892496-ON86257560.006D1F4C-86257560.006D81A7@thoughtworks.com>

Hey guys.  The meeting is in 2 weeks and we don't have an agenda yet.  Any 
volunteers?  A series of short talks is always fun, so even if you only 
want to do 5 or 10 minutes on something you should volunteer.

If nobody volunteers I recommend we pick some cool little ruby quiz to do 
or we do the meta koans.  Let's get some ideas out there.


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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 16:59:26 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:59:26 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] time to volunteer to present
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On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Josh Cronemeyer
<jcroneme at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
>
> Hey guys.  The meeting is in 2 weeks and we don't have an agenda yet.  Any
> volunteers?  A series of short talks is always fun, so even if you only want
> to do 5 or 10 minutes on something you should volunteer.
>
> If nobody volunteers I recommend we pick some cool little ruby quiz to do or
> we do the meta koans.  Let's get some ideas out there.

Anybody up for doing that dojo style?

http://codingdojo.org/

I'll be glad to run it if ppl want to do it.

From coreyhaines at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 17:23:39 2009
From: coreyhaines at gmail.com (Corey Haines)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:23:39 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] time to volunteer to present
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2 weeks, eh? I do believe I'll be in town at David Chelimsky's. I'll gladly
do a lightning talk on something.

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Josh Cronemeyer
<jcroneme at thoughtworks.com>wrote:

>
> Hey guys.  The meeting is in 2 weeks and we don't have an agenda yet.  Any
> volunteers?  A series of short talks is always fun, so even if you only want
> to do 5 or 10 minutes on something you should volunteer.
>
> If nobody volunteers I recommend we pick some cool little ruby quiz to do
> or we do the meta koans.  Let's get some ideas out there.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jcroneme at thoughtworks.com  Tue Feb 17 17:32:54 2009
From: jcroneme at thoughtworks.com (Josh Cronemeyer)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:32:54 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] time to volunteer to present
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+1 for dojo sylez run by chelimsky.





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On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Josh Cronemeyer
<jcroneme at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
>
> Hey guys.  The meeting is in 2 weeks and we don't have an agenda yet. 
Any
> volunteers?  A series of short talks is always fun, so even if you only 
want
> to do 5 or 10 minutes on something you should volunteer.
>
> If nobody volunteers I recommend we pick some cool little ruby quiz to 
do or
> we do the meta koans.  Let's get some ideas out there.

Anybody up for doing that dojo style?

http://codingdojo.org/

I'll be glad to run it if ppl want to do it.
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From jcroneme at thoughtworks.com  Tue Feb 17 18:14:02 2009
From: jcroneme at thoughtworks.com (Josh Cronemeyer)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:14:02 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] time to volunteer to present
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Corey, unless we have objections I think the fate of the meeting has been 
decided.  Chelimsky will officiate on one of these:

http://codingdojo.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RandoriKata

The good part is we'll all get to participate and pair on whatever the 
problem is.  Let me restate.  The problem now is picking the problem.

I vote for a good ruby quiz (does anyone know one?) the only one i know 
that is awesome is #67 http://rubyquiz.com/quiz67.html







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2 weeks, eh? I do believe I'll be in town at David Chelimsky's. I'll 
gladly do a lightning talk on something.

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Josh Cronemeyer <
jcroneme at thoughtworks.com> wrote:

Hey guys.  The meeting is in 2 weeks and we don't have an agenda yet.  Any 
volunteers?  A series of short talks is always fun, so even if you only 
want to do 5 or 10 minutes on something you should volunteer. 

If nobody volunteers I recommend we pick some cool little ruby quiz to do 
or we do the meta koans.  Let's get some ideas out there. 



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From byennen at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 18:16:20 2009
From: byennen at gmail.com (Lance Ennen)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:16:20 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] ChicagoGroup-Members-List Digest, Vol 50, Issue 4
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It would be sweet to have Corey do a talk! Or ruby quiz could be fun  
too. Thanks. -Lance Ennen

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> 2 weeks, eh? I do believe I'll be in town at David Chelimsky's. I'll  
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> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Josh Cronemeyer
> <jcroneme at thoughtworks.com>wrote:
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>>
>> Hey guys.  The meeting is in 2 weeks and we don't have an agenda  
>> yet.  Any
>> volunteers?  A series of short talks is always fun, so even if you  
>> only want
>> to do 5 or 10 minutes on something you should volunteer.
>>
>> If nobody volunteers I recommend we pick some cool little ruby quiz  
>> to do
>> or we do the meta koans.  Let's get some ideas out there.
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> +1 for dojo sylez run by chelimsky.
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>> Hey guys.  The meeting is in 2 weeks and we don't have an agenda yet.
> Any
>> volunteers?  A series of short talks is always fun, so even if you  
>> only
> want
>> to do 5 or 10 minutes on something you should volunteer.
>>
>> If nobody volunteers I recommend we pick some cool little ruby quiz  
>> to
> do or
>> we do the meta koans.  Let's get some ideas out there.
>
> Anybody up for doing that dojo style?
>
> http://codingdojo.org/
>
> I'll be glad to run it if ppl want to do it.
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 18:54:35 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:54:35 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] time to volunteer to present
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On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Josh Cronemeyer
<jcroneme at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
>
> Corey, unless we have objections I think the fate of the meeting has been
> decided.  Chelimsky will officiate on one of these:
>
> http://codingdojo.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RandoriKata
>
> The good part is we'll all get to participate and pair on whatever the
> problem is.  Let me restate.  The problem now is picking the problem.
>
> I vote for a good ruby quiz (does anyone know one?) the only one i know that
> is awesome is #67 http://rubyquiz.com/quiz67.html

Part of the randori concept is that we're driving out the code w/ code
examples (some people call this TDD ;) ). The koans concept removes
the writing of the code examples, so that would kinda defeat the
purpose.

There are 155 other quizes listed on http://rubyquiz.com/. Anybody got
a favorite?


>
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> 2 weeks, eh? I do believe I'll be in town at David Chelimsky's. I'll gladly
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>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Josh Cronemeyer <jcroneme at thoughtworks.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey guys.  The meeting is in 2 weeks and we don't have an agenda yet.  Any
> volunteers?  A series of short talks is always fun, so even if you only want
> to do 5 or 10 minutes on something you should volunteer.
>
> If nobody volunteers I recommend we pick some cool little ruby quiz to do or
> we do the meta koans.  Let's get some ideas out there.
>
>
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From paul at 8thlight.com  Tue Feb 17 18:43:43 2009
From: paul at 8thlight.com (Paul Pagel)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:43:43 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] time to volunteer to present
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+ 1 for a dojo

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> >
> > Hey guys.  The meeting is in 2 weeks and we don't have an agenda  
> yet.  Any
> > volunteers?  A series of short talks is always fun, so even if you  
> only want
> > to do 5 or 10 minutes on something you should volunteer.
> >
> > If nobody volunteers I recommend we pick some cool little ruby  
> quiz to do or
> > we do the meta koans.  Let's get some ideas out there.
>
> Anybody up for doing that dojo style?
>
> http://codingdojo.org/
>
> I'll be glad to run it if ppl want to do it.
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From caleb.cornman at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 19:06:25 2009
From: caleb.cornman at gmail.com (Caleb Cornman)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:06:25 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] time to volunteer to present
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I think this sounds very interesting.  How well does this work with
people from the range of skill levels?

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:54 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Josh Cronemeyer
> <jcroneme at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
>>
>> Corey, unless we have objections I think the fate of the meeting has been
>> decided.  Chelimsky will officiate on one of these:
>>
>> http://codingdojo.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RandoriKata
>>
>> The good part is we'll all get to participate and pair on whatever the
>> problem is.  Let me restate.  The problem now is picking the problem.
>>
>> I vote for a good ruby quiz (does anyone know one?) the only one i know that
>> is awesome is #67 http://rubyquiz.com/quiz67.html
>
> Part of the randori concept is that we're driving out the code w/ code
> examples (some people call this TDD ;) ). The koans concept removes
> the writing of the code examples, so that would kinda defeat the
> purpose.
>
> There are 155 other quizes listed on http://rubyquiz.com/. Anybody got
> a favorite?
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Corey Haines <coreyhaines at gmail.com>
>> Sent by: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org
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>> 2 weeks, eh? I do believe I'll be in town at David Chelimsky's. I'll gladly
>> do a lightning talk on something.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Josh Cronemeyer <jcroneme at thoughtworks.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys.  The meeting is in 2 weeks and we don't have an agenda yet.  Any
>> volunteers?  A series of short talks is always fun, so even if you only want
>> to do 5 or 10 minutes on something you should volunteer.
>>
>> If nobody volunteers I recommend we pick some cool little ruby quiz to do or
>> we do the meta koans.  Let's get some ideas out there.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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From jcroneme at thoughtworks.com  Tue Feb 17 19:39:04 2009
From: jcroneme at thoughtworks.com (Josh Cronemeyer)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:39:04 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] time to volunteer to present
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thats right... the code is already sorta kinda written for the koans one 
so the only one I know is a really lousy candidate for this exercize. doh! 
 Anyway looking forward to some good suggestions.



chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org wrote on 02/17/2009 
05:54:35 PM:

> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Josh Cronemeyer
> <jcroneme at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
> >
> > Corey, unless we have objections I think the fate of the meeting has 
been
> > decided.  Chelimsky will officiate on one of these:
> >
> > http://codingdojo.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RandoriKata
> >
> > The good part is we'll all get to participate and pair on whatever the
> > problem is.  Let me restate.  The problem now is picking the problem.
> >
> > I vote for a good ruby quiz (does anyone know one?) the only one i 
know that
> > is awesome is #67 http://rubyquiz.com/quiz67.html
> 
> Part of the randori concept is that we're driving out the code w/ code
> examples (some people call this TDD ;) ). The koans concept removes
> the writing of the code examples, so that would kinda defeat the
> purpose.
> 
> There are 155 other quizes listed on http://rubyquiz.com/. Anybody got
> a favorite?
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Corey Haines <coreyhaines at gmail.com>
> > Sent by: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org
> >
> > 02/17/09 04:23 PM
> >
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> > Re: [Chirb] time to volunteer to present
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2 weeks, eh? I do believe I'll be in town at David Chelimsky's. I'll 
gladly
> > do a lightning talk on something.
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Josh Cronemeyer 
<jcroneme at thoughtworks.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hey guys.  The meeting is in 2 weeks and we don't have an agenda yet. 
Any
> > volunteers?  A series of short talks is always fun, so even if you 
only want
> > to do 5 or 10 minutes on something you should volunteer.
> >
> > If nobody volunteers I recommend we pick some cool little ruby quiz to 
do or
> > we do the meta koans.  Let's get some ideas out there.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> > --
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From coreyhaines at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 19:51:12 2009
From: coreyhaines at gmail.com (Corey Haines)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:51:12 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] time to volunteer to present
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Sweet! I'm all for doing a dojo! I'll still be there!

Corey

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Josh Cronemeyer
<jcroneme at thoughtworks.com>wrote:

>
> Corey, unless we have objections I think the fate of the meeting has been
> decided.  Chelimsky will officiate on one of these:
>
> http://codingdojo.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RandoriKata
>
> The good part is we'll all get to participate and pair on whatever the
> problem is.  Let me restate.  The problem now is picking the problem.
>
> I vote for a good ruby quiz (does anyone know one?) the only one i know
> that is awesome is #67 http://rubyquiz.com/quiz67.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  *Corey Haines <coreyhaines at gmail.com>*
> Sent by: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org
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> 02/17/09 04:23 PM
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>
> 2 weeks, eh? I do believe I'll be in town at David Chelimsky's. I'll gladly
> do a lightning talk on something.
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Josh Cronemeyer <*
> jcroneme at thoughtworks.com* <jcroneme at thoughtworks.com>> wrote:
>
> Hey guys.  The meeting is in 2 weeks and we don't have an agenda yet.  Any
> volunteers?  A series of short talks is always fun, so even if you only want
> to do 5 or 10 minutes on something you should volunteer.
>
> If nobody volunteers I recommend we pick some cool little ruby quiz to do
> or we do the meta koans.  Let's get some ideas out there.
>
>
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From coreyhaines at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 19:51:40 2009
From: coreyhaines at gmail.com (Corey Haines)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:51:40 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] ChicagoGroup-Members-List Digest, Vol 50, Issue 4
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:) Come out for beer afterward, and it will be difficult to keep from
hearing me talk. :)

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Lance Ennen <byennen at gmail.com> wrote:

> It would be sweet to have Corey do a talk! Or ruby quiz could be fun too.
> Thanks. -Lance Ennen
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>> 2 weeks, eh? I do believe I'll be in town at David Chelimsky's. I'll
>> gladly
>> do a lightning talk on something.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Josh Cronemeyer
>> <jcroneme at thoughtworks.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hey guys.  The meeting is in 2 weeks and we don't have an agenda yet.
>>>  Any
>>> volunteers?  A series of short talks is always fun, so even if you only
>>> want
>>> to do 5 or 10 minutes on something you should volunteer.
>>>
>>> If nobody volunteers I recommend we pick some cool little ruby quiz to do
>>> or we do the meta koans.  Let's get some ideas out there.
>>>
>>>
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>> +1 for dojo sylez run by chelimsky.
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>> <jcroneme at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey guys.  The meeting is in 2 weeks and we don't have an agenda yet.
>>>
>> Any
>>
>>> volunteers?  A series of short talks is always fun, so even if you only
>>>
>> want
>>
>>> to do 5 or 10 minutes on something you should volunteer.
>>>
>>> If nobody volunteers I recommend we pick some cool little ruby quiz to
>>>
>> do or
>>
>>> we do the meta koans.  Let's get some ideas out there.
>>>
>>
>> Anybody up for doing that dojo style?
>>
>> http://codingdojo.org/
>>
>> I'll be glad to run it if ppl want to do it.
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 20:12:22 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:12:22 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] time to volunteer to present
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On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Caleb Cornman <caleb.cornman at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think this sounds very interesting.  How well does this work with
> people from the range of skill levels?

Everybody who wants to participate (which I hope is everybody) will
get a chance to pair program in front of the group with two different
partners, the person sitting to your left and the person sitting to
your right. So sit next to smart people :)

If you just want to watch, that's OK too, but it's going to suck if
only a few people do all the pairing. This is a group learning
exercise, not a tutorial.

>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:54 PM, David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Josh Cronemeyer
>> <jcroneme at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Corey, unless we have objections I think the fate of the meeting has been
>>> decided.  Chelimsky will officiate on one of these:
>>>
>>> http://codingdojo.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RandoriKata
>>>
>>> The good part is we'll all get to participate and pair on whatever the
>>> problem is.  Let me restate.  The problem now is picking the problem.
>>>
>>> I vote for a good ruby quiz (does anyone know one?) the only one i know that
>>> is awesome is #67 http://rubyquiz.com/quiz67.html
>>
>> Part of the randori concept is that we're driving out the code w/ code
>> examples (some people call this TDD ;) ). The koans concept removes
>> the writing of the code examples, so that would kinda defeat the
>> purpose.
>>
>> There are 155 other quizes listed on http://rubyquiz.com/. Anybody got
>> a favorite?
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Corey Haines <coreyhaines at gmail.com>
>>> Sent by: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org
>>>
>>> 02/17/09 04:23 PM
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2 weeks, eh? I do believe I'll be in town at David Chelimsky's. I'll gladly
>>> do a lightning talk on something.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Josh Cronemeyer <jcroneme at thoughtworks.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey guys.  The meeting is in 2 weeks and we don't have an agenda yet.  Any
>>> volunteers?  A series of short talks is always fun, so even if you only want
>>> to do 5 or 10 minutes on something you should volunteer.
>>>
>>> If nobody volunteers I recommend we pick some cool little ruby quiz to do or
>>> we do the meta koans.  Let's get some ideas out there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
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From jcroneme at thoughtworks.com  Wed Feb 18 09:14:35 2009
From: jcroneme at thoughtworks.com (Josh Cronemeyer)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:14:35 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] time to volunteer to present
In-Reply-To: <57c63afe0902171712q98cee2em6eef527aa122c1c4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OF5E8828E5.69FBDB48-ON86257561.004DF5FB-86257561.004E3D4A@thoughtworks.com>

chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org wrote on 02/17/2009 
07:12:22 PM:

> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Caleb Cornman <caleb.cornman at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > I think this sounds very interesting.  How well does this work with
> > people from the range of skill levels?
> 
> Everybody who wants to participate (which I hope is everybody) will
> get a chance to pair program in front of the group with two different
> partners, the person sitting to your left and the person sitting to
> your right. So sit next to smart people :)
> 
> If you just want to watch, that's OK too, but it's going to suck if
> only a few people do all the pairing. This is a group learning
> exercise, not a tutorial.
> 
Definately.  It is worth pointing out that pair programming is a great 
technique for teaching tools and techniques.  So if you are a less 
experienced developer you can learn lots pairing with a more experienced 
dev.


> >
> > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:54 PM, David Chelimsky 
<dchelimsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Josh Cronemeyer
> >> <jcroneme at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Corey, unless we have objections I think the fate of the meeting has 
been
> >>> decided.  Chelimsky will officiate on one of these:
> >>>
> >>> http://codingdojo.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RandoriKata
> >>>
> >>> The good part is we'll all get to participate and pair on whatever 
the
> >>> problem is.  Let me restate.  The problem now is picking the 
problem.
> >>>
> >>> I vote for a good ruby quiz (does anyone know one?) the only one 
iknow that
> >>> is awesome is #67 http://rubyquiz.com/quiz67.html
> >>
> >> Part of the randori concept is that we're driving out the code w/ 
code
> >> examples (some people call this TDD ;) ). The koans concept removes
> >> the writing of the code examples, so that would kinda defeat the
> >> purpose.
> >>
> >> There are 155 other quizes listed on http://rubyquiz.com/. Anybody 
got
> >> a favorite?
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Corey Haines <coreyhaines at gmail.com>
> >>> Sent by: chicagogroup-members-list-bounces at rubyforge.org
> >>>
> >>> 02/17/09 04:23 PM
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> >>> cc
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> >>> Re: [Chirb] time to volunteer to present
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2 weeks, eh? I do believe I'll be in town at David Chelimsky's. I'll 
gladly
> >>> do a lightning talk on something.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Josh Cronemeyer 
<jcroneme at thoughtworks.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey guys.  The meeting is in 2 weeks and we don't have an agenda 
yet.  Any
> >>> volunteers?  A series of short talks is always fun, so even if 
youonly want
> >>> to do 5 or 10 minutes on something you should volunteer.
> >>>
> >>> If nobody volunteers I recommend we pick some cool little ruby quiz 
to do or
> >>> we do the meta koans.  Let's get some ideas out there.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> >>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> http://www.coreyhaines.com
> >>> The Internet's Premiere source of information about Corey
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From jcroneme at thoughtworks.com  Fri Feb 27 02:03:38 2009
From: jcroneme at thoughtworks.com (Josh Cronemeyer)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:03:38 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] march ruby dojo
Message-ID: <OF8B33313F.4AF3044A-ON8625756A.00264043-8625756A.0026C941@thoughtworks.com>

Somehow i forgot to create the event on the site!  Shoot!  Anyway, looking 
forward to writing some ruby.  Bring your favorite ruby quiz or 
suggestions for the problem to tackle. And Please RSVP if you plan to 
attend.  http://chirb.org/event/show/38

The google calendar is updated.

Ruby Dojo - alright!




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