From bray at sent.com Mon Jan 5 11:48:22 2009
From: bray at sent.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 10:48:22 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] ChiPy: Ruby <-> Python Comparison
Message-ID: <1317A883-A407-4898-9A4D-9692A68C6E63@sent.com>
I need your help.
We are planning on doing some language comparisons this month at ChiPy:
Does anyone care to do 15 minutes on Ruby. If so, let me know or just
put your name up there. There will be some specific areas you will
need to fill in on language features during your talk.
Of course, all are welcome to attend.
Thanks,
Brian Ray
From bray at sent.com Tue Jan 6 17:58:08 2009
From: bray at sent.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 16:58:08 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] ANN ChiPy January Meeting Thursday the 8th at Roosevelt
University Computer
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Chicago Python User Group
=========================
Go ChiPy! The world's most successful user group strikes again!
The agenda for this month's ChiPy meeting includes a presentation by
Computer Software Consultant and Contractor, Allan Spale, on Python
3000 (Py3k) official release. This is the result of over three years
of work by the Python Team and is the first ever intentionally
backwards incompatible Python release.
The rest of the meeting will consist of short timed verbal comparisons
of other programming languages to Python by some of ChiPy most notable
members. All presenters will be given a short list of questions about
the language features they must answer during the talk. The best
presentation will be voted on at the end of the meeting. Future
meetings may be dedicated to any interesting topic's found during the
first ChiPy meeting of 2009.
Our host for the meeting is the Roosevelt University Computer
Association (RUCA). Thanks in advance for kindly hosting this event
full of colorful languages and people.
This *will* be our best meeting yet.
Topics
------
? Py3k Official Release, the next version of the Python Programming
Language - Allan Spale
? The Python Language Comparison Lighting Talks:
? C - Daniel Griffin
? tcl/tk - tentative
? Logo - Ian Bicking
? Smalltalk -Ian Bicking
? Groovy - David Durham
? JAVA - Garrett Smith
? Ruby - Frederick Polgardy
? JavaScript - Frederick Polgardy
? Boo - Feihong Hsu
? C++ - Allan LeSage
? Lua - Allan LeSage
? Clojure - Cosmin Stejerean
? C# - Marc Temkin
When
----
Thursday, January 8th, ~7pm
Location
--------
Roosevelt University, Gage Building, 18 S. Michigan Ave, 5th floor
About ChiPy
-----------
ChiPy is a group of Chicago Python Programmers, l33t, and n00bs.
Meetings are held monthly at various locations around Chicago.
Also, ChiPy is a proud sponsor of many Open Source and Educational
efforts in Chicago. Stay tuned to the mailing list for more info.
ChiPy website:
ChiPy Mailing List:
ChiPy Announcement *ONLY* Mailing List:
Python website:
From peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 17:08:37 2009
From: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com (Peter Fitzgibbons)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 16:08:37 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
Message-ID: <670a00380901081408s7da6c073q84afa5668e29a3a4@mail.gmail.com>
Hello All,
What's the plan for Feb / March?
I'll do a dog & pony show for Cucumber / Webrat / Selenium, including :
Cucumber review -- Given / When / Then
Setup
Givens with FixtureReplacement integration
Whens & Thens with Webrat
Whens & Thens with Webrat/Selenium
If anyone likes this alot and has suggested topics for the outline, I'm all
ears.
What say you?!!
Regards,
Peter Fitzgibbons
(847) 687-7646
Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
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From deanwampler at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 19:07:14 2009
From: deanwampler at gmail.com (Dean Wampler)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 18:07:14 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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+1.
A brief discussion of the differences between the cuke and RSpec's
original story runner would be nice, too.
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Peter Fitzgibbons
wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> What's the plan for Feb / March?
>
> I'll do a dog & pony show for Cucumber / Webrat / Selenium, including :
>
> Cucumber review -- Given / When / Then
> Setup
> Givens with FixtureReplacement integration
> Whens & Thens with Webrat
> Whens & Thens with Webrat/Selenium
>
> If anyone likes this alot and has suggested topics for the outline, I'm all
> ears.
>
> What say you?!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter Fitzgibbons
> (847) 687-7646
> Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
> IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
> IM Yahoo: pjfitzgibbons
> IM MSN: pjfitzgibbons at hotmail.com
> IM AOL: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
--
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http://www.polyglotprogramming.com
http://www.aspectprogramming.com
http://aquarium.rubyforge.org
http://www.contract4j.org
From peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 21:34:12 2009
From: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com (Peter Fitzgibbons)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 20:34:12 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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Someone else will have to address story_runner vs Cuke. I'll ask on the
IRC tomorrow if I remember.
Bueller? Bueller?
Peter Fitzgibbons
(847) 687-7646
Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
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On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Dean Wampler wrote:
> +1.
>
> A brief discussion of the differences between the cuke and RSpec's
> original story runner would be nice, too.
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Peter Fitzgibbons
> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > What's the plan for Feb / March?
> >
> > I'll do a dog & pony show for Cucumber / Webrat / Selenium, including :
> >
> > Cucumber review -- Given / When / Then
> > Setup
> > Givens with FixtureReplacement integration
> > Whens & Thens with Webrat
> > Whens & Thens with Webrat/Selenium
> >
> > If anyone likes this alot and has suggested topics for the outline, I'm
> all
> > ears.
> >
> > What say you?!!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Peter Fitzgibbons
> > (847) 687-7646
> > Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
> > IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
> > IM Yahoo: pjfitzgibbons
> > IM MSN: pjfitzgibbons at hotmail.com
> > IM AOL: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Dean Wampler
> http://www.objectmentor.com
> http://www.polyglotprogramming.com
> http://www.aspectprogramming.com
> http://aquarium.rubyforge.org
> http://www.contract4j.org
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
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From peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 21:36:04 2009
From: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com (Peter Fitzgibbons)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 20:36:04 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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pjfitzgibbons> nudges JCronemeyer
What's the date for Feb... 2?
Can we get a new calendar page up?
Thanks!
Peter Fitzgibbons
(847) 687-7646
Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
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On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Peter Fitzgibbons <
peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com> wrote:
> Someone else will have to address story_runner vs Cuke. I'll ask on the
> IRC tomorrow if I remember.
>
> Bueller? Bueller?
>
>
> Peter Fitzgibbons
> (847) 687-7646
> Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
> IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
> IM Yahoo: pjfitzgibbons
> IM MSN: pjfitzgibbons at hotmail.com
> IM AOL: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Dean Wampler wrote:
>
>> +1.
>>
>> A brief discussion of the differences between the cuke and RSpec's
>> original story runner would be nice, too.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Peter Fitzgibbons
>> wrote:
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>> > What's the plan for Feb / March?
>> >
>> > I'll do a dog & pony show for Cucumber / Webrat / Selenium, including :
>> >
>> > Cucumber review -- Given / When / Then
>> > Setup
>> > Givens with FixtureReplacement integration
>> > Whens & Thens with Webrat
>> > Whens & Thens with Webrat/Selenium
>> >
>> > If anyone likes this alot and has suggested topics for the outline, I'm
>> all
>> > ears.
>> >
>> > What say you?!!
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Peter Fitzgibbons
>> > (847) 687-7646
>> > Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>> > IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
>> > IM Yahoo: pjfitzgibbons
>> > IM MSN: pjfitzgibbons at hotmail.com
>> > IM AOL: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
>> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dean Wampler
>> http://www.objectmentor.com
>> http://www.polyglotprogramming.com
>> http://www.aspectprogramming.com
>> http://aquarium.rubyforge.org
>> http://www.contract4j.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>>
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 22:37:05 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 21:37:05 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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I'll volunteer for that.
On Jan 8, 2009, at 8:34 PM, "Peter Fitzgibbons" wrote:
> Someone else will have to address story_runner vs Cuke. I'll ask
> on the IRC tomorrow if I remember.
>
> Bueller? Bueller?
>
>
> Peter Fitzgibbons
> (847) 687-7646
> Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
> IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
> IM Yahoo: pjfitzgibbons
> IM MSN: pjfitzgibbons at hotmail.com
> IM AOL: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Dean Wampler
> wrote:
> +1.
>
> A brief discussion of the differences between the cuke and RSpec's
> original story runner would be nice, too.
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Peter Fitzgibbons
> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > What's the plan for Feb / March?
> >
> > I'll do a dog & pony show for Cucumber / Webrat / Selenium,
> including :
> >
> > Cucumber review -- Given / When / Then
> > Setup
> > Givens with FixtureReplacement integration
> > Whens & Thens with Webrat
> > Whens & Thens with Webrat/Selenium
> >
> > If anyone likes this alot and has suggested topics for the
> outline, I'm all
> > ears.
> >
> > What say you?!!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Peter Fitzgibbons
> > (847) 687-7646
> > Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
> > IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
> > IM Yahoo: pjfitzgibbons
> > IM MSN: pjfitzgibbons at hotmail.com
> > IM AOL: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Dean Wampler
> http://www.objectmentor.com
> http://www.polyglotprogramming.com
> http://www.aspectprogramming.com
> http://aquarium.rubyforge.org
> http://www.contract4j.org
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
> _______________________________________________
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From: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com (Peter Fitzgibbons)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 22:22:19 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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Great! This is starting to be an all-star cast!
Peter Fitzgibbons
(847) 687-7646
Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
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On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:37 PM, David Chelimsky wrote:
> I'll volunteer for that.
>
> On Jan 8, 2009, at 8:34 PM, "Peter Fitzgibbons" <
> peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Someone else will have to address story_runner vs Cuke. I'll ask on the
> IRC tomorrow if I remember.
>
> Bueller? Bueller?
>
>
> Peter Fitzgibbons
> (847) 687-7646
> Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
> IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
> IM Yahoo: pjfitzgibbons
> IM MSN: pjfitzgibbons at hotmail.com
> IM AOL: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Dean Wampler <
> deanwampler at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1.
>>
>> A brief discussion of the differences between the cuke and RSpec's
>> original story runner would be nice, too.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Peter Fitzgibbons
>> < peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>> > What's the plan for Feb / March?
>> >
>> > I'll do a dog & pony show for Cucumber / Webrat / Selenium, including :
>> >
>> > Cucumber review -- Given / When / Then
>> > Setup
>> > Givens with FixtureReplacement integration
>> > Whens & Thens with Webrat
>> > Whens & Thens with Webrat/Selenium
>> >
>> > If anyone likes this alot and has suggested topics for the outline, I'm
>> all
>> > ears.
>> >
>> > What say you?!!
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Peter Fitzgibbons
>> > (847) 687-7646
>> > Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>> > IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
>> > IM Yahoo: pjfitzgibbons
>> > IM MSN: pjfitzgibbons at hotmail.com
>> > IM AOL: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> >
>> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
>> >
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dean Wampler
>> http://www.objectmentor.com
>> http://www.polyglotprogramming.com
>> http://www.aspectprogramming.com
>> http://aquarium.rubyforge.org
>> http://www.contract4j.org
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
>>
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From mmangino at elevatedrails.com Fri Jan 9 07:51:44 2009
From: mmangino at elevatedrails.com (Mike Mangino)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:51:44 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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What makes you think you're qualified? :)
Has anyone thought of recording these talks for those of us stuck on
the east coast?
Mike
On Jan 8, 2009, at 10:37 PM, David Chelimsky wrote:
> I'll volunteer for that.
>
> On Jan 8, 2009, at 8:34 PM, "Peter Fitzgibbons" > wrote:
>
>> Someone else will have to address story_runner vs Cuke. I'll ask
>> on the IRC tomorrow if I remember.
>>
>> Bueller? Bueller?
>>
>>
>> Peter Fitzgibbons
>> (847) 687-7646
>> Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>> IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
>> IM Yahoo: pjfitzgibbons
>> IM MSN: pjfitzgibbons at hotmail.com
>> IM AOL: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>>
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http://www.elevatedrails.com
From blchamberlain at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 08:46:30 2009
From: blchamberlain at gmail.com (Brian Chamberlain)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:46:30 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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+1 as well.
Looks like it's shaping up to be a very interesting Chirb-up.
On Jan 8, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Dean Wampler wrote:
> +1.
>
> A brief discussion of the differences between the cuke and RSpec's
> original story runner would be nice, too.
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Peter Fitzgibbons
> wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> What's the plan for Feb / March?
>>
>> I'll do a dog & pony show for Cucumber / Webrat / Selenium,
>> including :
>>
>> Cucumber review -- Given / When / Then
>> Setup
>> Givens with FixtureReplacement integration
>> Whens & Thens with Webrat
>> Whens & Thens with Webrat/Selenium
>>
>> If anyone likes this alot and has suggested topics for the
>> outline, I'm all
>> ears.
>>
>> What say you?!!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Peter Fitzgibbons
>> (847) 687-7646
>> Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>> IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
>> IM Yahoo: pjfitzgibbons
>> IM MSN: pjfitzgibbons at hotmail.com
>> IM AOL: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Dean Wampler
> http://www.objectmentor.com
> http://www.polyglotprogramming.com
> http://www.aspectprogramming.com
> http://aquarium.rubyforge.org
> http://www.contract4j.org
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
From peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 09:52:05 2009
From: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com (Peter Fitzgibbons)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 08:52:05 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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Mike - Nice...
Does that mean you're +1 and will be there?
Qualifications : enthusiasm and willing to step up to the plate on a
previous request for someone to demo story-runner and selenium working
together.
Peter Fitzgibbons
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On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Brian Chamberlain
wrote:
> +1 as well.
> Looks like it's shaping up to be a very interesting Chirb-up.
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Dean Wampler wrote:
>
> +1.
>>
>> A brief discussion of the differences between the cuke and RSpec's
>> original story runner would be nice, too.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Peter Fitzgibbons
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> What's the plan for Feb / March?
>>>
>>> I'll do a dog & pony show for Cucumber / Webrat / Selenium, including :
>>>
>>> Cucumber review -- Given / When / Then
>>> Setup
>>> Givens with FixtureReplacement integration
>>> Whens & Thens with Webrat
>>> Whens & Thens with Webrat/Selenium
>>>
>>> If anyone likes this alot and has suggested topics for the outline, I'm
>>> all
>>> ears.
>>>
>>> What say you?!!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Peter Fitzgibbons
>>> (847) 687-7646
>>> Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>>> IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
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From mmangino at elevatedrails.com Fri Jan 9 10:13:29 2009
From: mmangino at elevatedrails.com (Mike Mangino)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 10:13:29 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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On Jan 9, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Peter Fitzgibbons wrote:
> Mike - Nice...
Not you, I meant David. I try to give him a hard time as often as
possible.
>
>
> Does that mean you're +1 and will be there?
I'm definitely +1, I wont be there though. The commute from Philly is
just too much for me.
>
>
> Qualifications : enthusiasm and willing to step up to the plate on a
> previous request for someone to demo story-runner and selenium
> working together.
I'd really like to see this one. Have you had good luck with webrat/
selenium?
How's life been treating you?
Mike
>
>
>
> Peter Fitzgibbons
> (847) 687-7646
> Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
> IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
> IM Yahoo: pjfitzgibbons
> IM MSN: pjfitzgibbons at hotmail.com
> IM AOL: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Brian Chamberlain > wrote:
> +1 as well.
> Looks like it's shaping up to be a very interesting Chirb-up.
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Dean Wampler wrote:
>
> +1.
>
> A brief discussion of the differences between the cuke and RSpec's
> original story runner would be nice, too.
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Peter Fitzgibbons
> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> What's the plan for Feb / March?
>
> I'll do a dog & pony show for Cucumber / Webrat / Selenium,
> including :
>
> Cucumber review -- Given / When / Then
> Setup
> Givens with FixtureReplacement integration
> Whens & Thens with Webrat
> Whens & Thens with Webrat/Selenium
>
> If anyone likes this alot and has suggested topics for the outline,
> I'm all
> ears.
>
> What say you?!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter Fitzgibbons
> (847) 687-7646
> Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
> IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
> IM Yahoo: pjfitzgibbons
> IM MSN: pjfitzgibbons at hotmail.com
> IM AOL: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
>
>
>
> --
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> http://www.objectmentor.com
> http://www.polyglotprogramming.com
> http://www.aspectprogramming.com
> http://aquarium.rubyforge.org
> http://www.contract4j.org
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 10:14:39 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:14:39 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Mike Mangino wrote:
> I'm definitely +1, I wont be there though. The commute from Philly is just
> too much for me.
Dude - you can run that in just a few hours, can't you?
From jcroneme at thoughtworks.com Fri Jan 9 10:36:14 2009
From: jcroneme at thoughtworks.com (Josh Cronemeyer)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:36:14 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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Message-ID:
This is what I like to see! The february meeting sorting itself out.
Everything sounds great! I'll put this up on the website and the google
calendar unless somebody else has beat me to it.
PEACE!
Josh Cronemeyer
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On Jan 9, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Peter Fitzgibbons wrote:
> Mike - Nice...
Not you, I meant David. I try to give him a hard time as often as
possible.
>
>
> Does that mean you're +1 and will be there?
I'm definitely +1, I wont be there though. The commute from Philly is
just too much for me.
>
>
> Qualifications : enthusiasm and willing to step up to the plate on a
> previous request for someone to demo story-runner and selenium
> working together.
I'd really like to see this one. Have you had good luck with webrat/
selenium?
How's life been treating you?
Mike
>
>
>
> Peter Fitzgibbons
> (847) 687-7646
> Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
> IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
> IM Yahoo: pjfitzgibbons
> IM MSN: pjfitzgibbons at hotmail.com
> IM AOL: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Brian Chamberlain
> wrote:
> +1 as well.
> Looks like it's shaping up to be a very interesting Chirb-up.
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Dean Wampler wrote:
>
> +1.
>
> A brief discussion of the differences between the cuke and RSpec's
> original story runner would be nice, too.
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Peter Fitzgibbons
> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> What's the plan for Feb / March?
>
> I'll do a dog & pony show for Cucumber / Webrat / Selenium,
> including :
>
> Cucumber review -- Given / When / Then
> Setup
> Givens with FixtureReplacement integration
> Whens & Thens with Webrat
> Whens & Thens with Webrat/Selenium
>
> If anyone likes this alot and has suggested topics for the outline,
> I'm all
> ears.
>
> What say you?!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter Fitzgibbons
> (847) 687-7646
> Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
> IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
> IM Yahoo: pjfitzgibbons
> IM MSN: pjfitzgibbons at hotmail.com
> IM AOL: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
>
>
>
> --
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> http://www.polyglotprogramming.com
> http://www.aspectprogramming.com
> http://aquarium.rubyforge.org
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From: jcroneme at thoughtworks.com (Josh Cronemeyer)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:59:04 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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Yea! Everyone from philly runs just like rocky!
PEACE!
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just
> too much for me.
Dude - you can run that in just a few hours, can't you?
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From peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 12:09:57 2009
From: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com (Peter Fitzgibbons)
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:09:57 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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runs like rocky -- that's not a vote of confidence for getting here "in a
few hours"
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On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Josh Cronemeyer
wrote:
>
> Yea! Everyone from philly runs just like rocky!
>
> PEACE!
> Josh Cronemeyer
>
>
> *"David Chelimsky" *
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> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Mike Mangino
> wrote:
> > I'm definitely +1, I wont be there though. The commute from Philly is
> just
> > too much for me.
>
> Dude - you can run that in just a few hours, can't you?
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From andy at obtiva.com Mon Jan 12 11:44:53 2009
From: andy at obtiva.com (Andy Maleh)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:44:53 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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Peter, will the dog and pony show also include demoing real-world cases of
using Cucumber/RSpec? If not, my colleagues and I may be able to contribute
that to the talk as we've been using Cucumber, RSpec, and Shoulda-like
macros for a while on our project.
Andy
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Peter Fitzgibbons <
peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com> wrote:
> runs like rocky -- that's not a vote of confidence for getting here "in a
> few hours"
>
> Peter Fitzgibbons
> (847) 687-7646
> Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
> IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
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>
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Josh Cronemeyer > wrote:
>
>>
>> Yea! Everyone from philly runs just like rocky!
>>
>> PEACE!
>> Josh Cronemeyer
>>
>>
>> *"David Chelimsky" *
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Mike Mangino
>> wrote:
>> > I'm definitely +1, I wont be there though. The commute from Philly is
>> just
>> > too much for me.
>>
>> Dude - you can run that in just a few hours, can't you?
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From: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com (Peter Fitzgibbons)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:07:31 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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HI Andy,
I'm interested in discussing your usage.
Are you using transactional_fixtures? And are you using selenium?
Looking forward to talking more... IRC session maybe?
Peter Fitzgibbons
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On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Andy Maleh wrote:
> Peter, will the dog and pony show also include demoing real-world cases of
> using Cucumber/RSpec? If not, my colleagues and I may be able to contribute
> that to the talk as we've been using Cucumber, RSpec, and Shoulda-like
> macros for a while on our project.
>
> Andy
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Peter Fitzgibbons <
> peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> runs like rocky -- that's not a vote of confidence for getting here "in a
>> few hours"
>>
>> Peter Fitzgibbons
>> (847) 687-7646
>> Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>> IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
>> IM Yahoo: pjfitzgibbons
>> IM MSN: pjfitzgibbons at hotmail.com
>> IM AOL: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Josh Cronemeyer <
>> jcroneme at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yea! Everyone from philly runs just like rocky!
>>>
>>> PEACE!
>>> Josh Cronemeyer
>>>
>>>
>>> *"David Chelimsky" *
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Mike Mangino
>>> wrote:
>>> > I'm definitely +1, I wont be there though. The commute from Philly is
>>> just
>>> > too much for me.
>>>
>>> Dude - you can run that in just a few hours, can't you?
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Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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OR you guys could both come to chirb tonight and talk in person over
pizza...
PEACE!
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HI Andy,
I'm interested in discussing your usage.
Are you using transactional_fixtures? And are you using selenium?
Looking forward to talking more... IRC session maybe?
Peter Fitzgibbons
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On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Andy Maleh wrote:
Peter, will the dog and pony show also include demoing real-world cases of
using Cucumber/RSpec? If not, my colleagues and I may be able to
contribute that to the talk as we've been using Cucumber, RSpec, and
Shoulda-like macros for a while on our project.
Andy
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Peter Fitzgibbons <
peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com> wrote:
runs like rocky -- that's not a vote of confidence for getting here "in a
few hours"
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On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Josh Cronemeyer wrote:
Yea! Everyone from philly runs just like rocky!
PEACE!
Josh Cronemeyer
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just
> too much for me.
Dude - you can run that in just a few hours, can't you?
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From andy at obtiva.com Mon Jan 12 17:31:28 2009
From: andy at obtiva.com (Andy Maleh)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:31:28 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb meeting : presenters? I'll do a Cucumber pony show
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I wish. I have music practice tonight. Let's chat Peter.
Andy
gtalk: andy at obtiva.com
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Josh Cronemeyer
wrote:
>
> OR you guys could both come to chirb tonight and talk in person over
> pizza...
>
> PEACE!
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>
>
> HI Andy,
>
> I'm interested in discussing your usage.
>
> Are you using transactional_fixtures? And are you using selenium?
>
> Looking forward to talking more... IRC session maybe?
>
> Peter Fitzgibbons
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> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Andy Maleh <*andy at obtiva.com*>
> wrote:
> Peter, will the dog and pony show also include demoing real-world cases of
> using Cucumber/RSpec? If not, my colleagues and I may be able to contribute
> that to the talk as we've been using Cucumber, RSpec, and Shoulda-like
> macros for a while on our project.
>
> Andy
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Peter Fitzgibbons <*
> peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com* > wrote:
> runs like rocky -- that's not a vote of confidence for getting here "in a
> few hours"
>
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>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Josh Cronemeyer <*
> jcroneme at thoughtworks.com* > wrote:
>
> Yea! Everyone from philly runs just like rocky!
>
> PEACE!
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> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Mike Mangino <*mmangino at elevatedrails.com*>
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From deanwampler at gmail.com Tue Jan 13 10:53:11 2009
From: deanwampler at gmail.com (Dean Wampler)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:53:11 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Presentation from last-night's talk "Better Ruby through
Functional Programming"
Message-ID: <6cf2a94f0901130753h7524b09eo10ddb71274c96257@mail.gmail.com>
You can find them here, along with a zip of the code examples.
http://polyglotprogramming.com/papers
dean
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From dchelimsky at gmail.com Tue Jan 13 11:38:00 2009
From: dchelimsky at gmail.com (David Chelimsky)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:38:00 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Presentation from last-night's talk "Better Ruby
through Functional Programming"
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Hey Dean - thanks for the slides - I was sorry to miss the
presentation, and I'm sure the slides won't replace the live version,
but hopefully they'll help to get the overview.
Cheers,
David
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Dean Wampler wrote:
> You can find them here, along with a zip of the code examples.
>
> http://polyglotprogramming.com/papers
>
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From deanwampler at gmail.com Tue Jan 13 11:41:37 2009
From: deanwampler at gmail.com (Dean Wampler)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:41:37 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Presentation from last-night's talk "Better Ruby
through Functional Programming"
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David,
Sorry you couldn't make it. I put 'speaker notes' on the pages, so
that should help.
dean
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:38 AM, David Chelimsky wrote:
> Hey Dean - thanks for the slides - I was sorry to miss the
> presentation, and I'm sure the slides won't replace the live version,
> but hopefully they'll help to get the overview.
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Dean Wampler wrote:
>> You can find them here, along with a zip of the code examples.
>>
>> http://polyglotprogramming.com/papers
>>
>> dean
>> --
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From jcroneme at thoughtworks.com Tue Jan 13 15:05:07 2009
From: jcroneme at thoughtworks.com (Josh Cronemeyer)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:05:07 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Presentation from last-night's talk "Better
Ruby through Functional Programming"
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Message-ID:
Thanks to the link dean... I'm looking at the slidedeck now to see what I
missed.
PEACE!
Josh Cronemeyer
"Dean Wampler"
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David,
Sorry you couldn't make it. I put 'speaker notes' on the pages, so
that should help.
dean
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:38 AM, David Chelimsky
wrote:
> Hey Dean - thanks for the slides - I was sorry to miss the
> presentation, and I'm sure the slides won't replace the live version,
> but hopefully they'll help to get the overview.
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Dean Wampler
wrote:
>> You can find them here, along with a zip of the code examples.
>>
>> http://polyglotprogramming.com/papers
>>
>> dean
>> --
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From deanwampler at gmail.com Thu Jan 15 10:50:44 2009
From: deanwampler at gmail.com (Dean Wampler)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:50:44 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] OT: Interested in organizing a Scala group in Chicago.
Message-ID: <6cf2a94f0901150750l21523b18hb346d0e1d2ed2f8e@mail.gmail.com>
I would like to organize a Scala group in the Chicago area. Stealing
the idea of the Bay Area Scala Enthusiasts (BASE), I thought we could
call it CASE. Maybe we'll attract a UML crowd and turn them to the
Light Side ;)
If anyone is interested, reply to me privately. I'm willing to do the
leg work, but any help is welcome. We'll need to find a space to meet
(preferably downtown). Suggestions for a date and time each month are
welcome.
Feel free to pass the word along.
Dean
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From peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 12:50:32 2009
From: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com (Peter Fitzgibbons)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:50:32 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb Presentation "Cucumber + Webrat + Selenim Dog & Pony
Show" - Renewed Commitment
Message-ID: <670a00380901160950k218d4a20yfcfe3341a245b6de@mail.gmail.com>
Hello All,
I am newly unemployed. As for that, I will fwd my CV to anyone who has a
possible lead.
As for Feb Chirb presentation, I hereby renew my committment to present at
the Feb. Chirb.
See you all there!
Peter Fitzgibbons
(847) 687-7646
Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
IM GTalk: peter.fitzgibbons
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From hubrix at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 14:57:52 2009
From: hubrix at gmail.com (Mark Alexander Friedgan)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:57:52 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Feb Presentation "Cucumber + Webrat + Selenim Dog &
Pony Show" - Renewed Commitment
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we are hiring. please send Bruce and I your resume.
On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:50 AM, "Peter Fitzgibbons" wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I am newly unemployed. As for that, I will fwd my CV to anyone who
> has a possible lead.
>
> As for Feb Chirb presentation, I hereby renew my committment to
> present at the Feb. Chirb.
>
> See you all there!
>
>
> Peter Fitzgibbons
> (847) 687-7646
> Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
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From brian.moschel at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 17:45:49 2009
From: brian.moschel at gmail.com (Brian Moschel)
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:45:49 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] JS.Chi next Thursday
Message-ID: <43f0bc260901161445y3ce76a8dj842966883f0d0ac2@mail.gmail.com>
Hey guys,
Kevin Taylor suggested some of you might be intested in the Chicago
JavaScript meetup, which meets next Thursday. We're going over an AJAX
walkthrough
and a Firebug tutorial, so it should be very hands on and useful. We're
also giving away free JavaScript books and we have pizza. I've attached the
info below. Hope to see some of you there.
- Brian
[image: JS.Chi]
Chicago's JavaScript Meetup is meeting on Thursday, January 22nd.
RSVP
now!
What is JS.Chi?
[image: pizza][image: book]A meeting of Chicagoland JavaScript developers.
We'll teach you how to add AJAX to your web pages.
- Brush up on JavaScript with talks and walkthroughs.
- Eat free pizza
- Free JavaScript books provided by Oreilly
- Informal Q&A and networking
Talks
Our talks feature JavaScript experts teaching beginner JavaScript skills. Check
out the talks from our December
meetup. The talks for the upcoming meeting are:
Simple JavaScript Development with Firebug
presented by Vlad Didenko
GETCO Lead developer
[image: Vlad Didenko]
20 Minute Practical AJAX Walkthrough
presented by Justin Meyer
JavaScriptMVC founder
[image: Justin Meyer]
When?
Thusday January 22nd, 7:00 PM
Where?
[image: Templates]
DePaul Center: Room TBD
1 E Jackson Blvd
Chicago, IL 60604
Who?
- JavaScript developers
- Absolute JavaScript beginners
- Web or backend developers looking to add JavaScript functionality to
their pages
JavaScript is the most important programming language of this century!
Books
Oreilly has provided the following books to give away free to members in
exchange for a short review:
- JavaScript: The Definitive Guide, 5th
Edition
- JavaScript: The Good
Parts
- JavaScript Pocket Reference, 2nd
Edition
- Ajax: The Definitive Guide
- Pragmatic Ajax
RSVP !
We can't wait to meet you. Questions? Call Brian at (847)727-1609.
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From: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com (Peter Fitzgibbons)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:11:04 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Seeking a mentor
Message-ID: <670a00380901171811i2683467ay19ea18f2a0ddb20c@mail.gmail.com>
Hi All,
I am interested in opening a Mentoring relationship both as a mentor and a
student (with different people, of course).
If you are interested, please contact me off-list.
Regards,
Peter Fitzgibbons
(847) 687-7646
Email: peter.fitzgibbons at gmail.com
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From tonkinjs at yahoo.com Fri Jan 23 12:22:23 2009
From: tonkinjs at yahoo.com (Jonathan Tonkin)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:22:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Chirb] Rails vs Merb
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Hi, All --
I hope I'm not to horribly out of date on this, I've just been forwarded an article that states that Rails 3.0 will merge with Merb.? This is to happen some time around May.
http://www.infoworld.com/article/09/01/12/02NF-ruby-on-rails-merb_1.html
-- Jon
--- On Tue, 12/16/08, David Chelimsky wrote:
From: David Chelimsky
Subject: Re: [Chirb] Rails vs Merb
To: "Chirb discussion list"
Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 9:58 PM
There's one thing I'd add to this. I've been working on a merb app
and, while the framework is still fairly young and there is a bit of
churn (not API churn, but they've done 4 releases in a month), the
folks in the #merb channel on freenode are very, very helpful.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 7:23 PM, wrote:
> Things that distinguish Merb and Rails are:
> - Merb is thread-safe, multi-thread, Rails is single-thread, so Merb takes
> much less computing resources such as CPU and memory.
>
> - Code of Merb is more rubyist than Rails code, and easier to understand.
>
> - There are less libraries and plugins for Merb now, compared to Rails.
>
> - Merb community is currently smaller than Rails community.
>
> - Merb is smaller than Rails in term of amount dependent frameworks.
>
> Other than that, I think that they are pretty much similar.
>
> Linh.
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From natebkirby at yahoo.com Fri Jan 23 12:50:03 2009
From: natebkirby at yahoo.com (Nate Kirby)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:50:03 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Sinatra WAS => Re: Rails vs Merb
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Jonathan,
Not horribly out of date...That would be more like "Hey guys there is a
new framework at http://rubyonrails.org/ ". :)
However, this does bring a question to my mind. Has anyone used or
thought about using Sinatra ? It looks
very lightweight - looks even lighter than Merb was before rails started
swallowing :).
Blessings,
Nate
Jonathan Tonkin wrote:
>
> Hi, All --
>
> I hope I'm not to horribly out of date on this, I've just been
> forwarded an article that states that Rails 3.0 will merge with Merb.
> This is to happen some time around May.
>
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/09/01/12/02NF-ruby-on-rails-merb_1.html
>
> -- Jon
>
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, David Chelimsky //* wrote:
>
> From: David Chelimsky
> Subject: Re: [Chirb] Rails vs Merb
> To: "Chirb discussion list"
> Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 9:58 PM
>
> There's one thing I'd add to this. I've been working on a merb app
> and, while the framework is still fairly young and there is a bit
> of
> churn (not API churn, but they've done 4 releases in a month), the
> folks in the #merb channel on freenode are very, very helpful.
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 7:23 PM, wrote:
> > Things that distinguish Merb and Rails are:
> > - Merb is thread-safe, multi-thread, Rails is single-thread, so Merb takes
> > much less computing resources such as CPU and memory.
> >
> > - Code of Merb is more rubyist than Rails code, and easier to understand.
> >
> > - There are less libraries and plugins for Merb now, compared to Rails.
> >
> > - Merb community is currently smaller than Rails community.
> >
> > - Merb is smaller than Rails in term of amount dependent frameworks.
> >
> > Other than that, I think that they are pretty much similar.
> >
> > Linh.
> >
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From jonathan.soeder at gmail.com Fri Jan 23 13:30:14 2009
From: jonathan.soeder at gmail.com (Jonathan Soeder)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:30:14 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Sinatra WAS => Re: Rails vs Merb
In-Reply-To: <497A034B.9090904@yahoo.com>
References: <257263.3108.qm@web111301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
<497A034B.9090904@yahoo.com>
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Nate,
Sinatra is a beautiful piece of work and it is extremely light weight. I
use it for soederpop.com to serve a few small ruby apps which I deploy
through rack and passenger. I don't know that I'd use it for a complete
application just yet, but for very simple scripts it is a godsend.
js
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Nate Kirby wrote:
> Jonathan,
>
> Not horribly out of date...That would be more like "Hey guys there is a new
> framework at http://rubyonrails.org/ ". :)
>
> However, this does bring a question to my mind. Has anyone used or thought
> about using Sinatra ? It looks very
> lightweight - looks even lighter than Merb was before rails started
> swallowing :).
>
> Blessings,
> Nate
>
> Jonathan Tonkin wrote:
>
>
> Hi, All --
>
> I hope I'm not to horribly out of date on this, I've just been forwarded an
> article that states that Rails 3.0 will merge with Merb. This is to happen
> some time around May.
>
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/09/01/12/02NF-ruby-on-rails-merb_1.html
>
> -- Jon
>
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, David Chelimsky
> * wrote:
>
> From: David Chelimsky
> Subject: Re: [Chirb] Rails vs Merb
> To: "Chirb discussion list"
> Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 9:58 PM
>
> There's one thing I'd add to this. I've been working on a merb app
> and, while the framework is still fairly young and there is a bit
> of
> churn (not API churn, but they've done 4 releases in a month), the
> folks in the #merb channel on freenode are very, very helpful.
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 7:23 PM, wrote:
> > Things that distinguish Merb and Rails are:
> > - Merb is thread-safe, multi-thread, Rails is single-thread, so Merb takes
> > much less computing resources such as CPU and memory.
> >
> > - Code of Merb is more rubyist than Rails code, and easier to understand.
> >
> > - There are less libraries and plugins for Merb now, compared to Rails.
> >
> > - Merb community is currently smaller than Rails community.
> >
> > - Merb is smaller than Rails in term of amount dependent frameworks.
> >
> > Other than that, I think that they are pretty much similar.
> >
> > Linh.
> >
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From: olsonas at gmail.com (Drew Olson)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:36:05 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Sinatra WAS => Re: Rails vs Merb
In-Reply-To: <2ef82bce0901231030u6c6ee897q5e2bf7d593ae668@mail.gmail.com>
References: <257263.3108.qm@web111301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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+ 1
Sinatra is awesome for small, lightweight, web services as well. Very
much worth looking into.
- Drew
On Jan 23, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Jonathan Soeder wrote:
> Nate,
>
> Sinatra is a beautiful piece of work and it is extremely light
> weight. I use it for soederpop.com to serve a few small ruby apps
> which I deploy through rack and passenger. I don't know that I'd
> use it for a complete application just yet, but for very simple
> scripts it is a godsend.
>
> js
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Nate Kirby
> wrote:
> Jonathan,
>
> Not horribly out of date...That would be more like "Hey guys there
> is a new framework at http://rubyonrails.org/ ". :)
>
> However, this does bring a question to my mind. Has anyone used or
> thought about using Sinatra ? It looks very lightweight - looks
> even lighter than Merb was before rails started swallowing :).
>
> Blessings,
> Nate
>
> Jonathan Tonkin wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi, All --
>>
>> I hope I'm not to horribly out of date on this, I've just been
>> forwarded an article that states that Rails 3.0 will merge with
>> Merb. This is to happen some time around May.
>>
>> http://www.infoworld.com/article/09/01/12/02NF-ruby-on-rails-merb_1.html
>>
>> -- Jon
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 12/16/08, David Chelimsky wrote:
>> From: David Chelimsky
>> Subject: Re: [Chirb] Rails vs Merb
>> To: "Chirb discussion list"
>> Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 9:58 PM
>>
>> There's one thing I'd add to this. I've been working on a merb app
>> and, while the framework is still fairly young and there is a bit
>> of
>> churn (not API churn, but they've done 4 releases in a month), the
>> folks in the #merb channel on freenode are very, very helpful.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 7:23 PM, wrote:
>> > Things that distinguish Merb and Rails are:
>> > - Merb is thread-safe, multi-thread, Rails is single-thread, so
>> Merb takes
>> > much less computing resources such as CPU and memory.
>> >
>> > - Code of Merb is more rubyist than Rails code, and easier to
>> understand.
>> >
>> > - There are less libraries and plugins for Merb now, compared to
>> Rails.
>> >
>> > - Merb community is currently smaller than Rails community.
>> >
>> > - Merb is smaller than Rails in term of amount dependent
>> frameworks.
>> >
>> > Other than that, I think that they are pretty much similar.
>> >
>> > Linh.
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
>> >
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>>
>>
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>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>
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From andy at obtiva.com Fri Jan 23 14:48:31 2009
From: andy at obtiva.com (Andy Maleh)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:48:31 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Sinatra WAS => Re: Rails vs Merb
In-Reply-To: <1B85C86A-C816-4D00-8F15-6B31E9E55AA0@gmail.com>
References: <257263.3108.qm@web111301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Yeah, Sinatra is kinda like Rails 1.0, only simpler.
A similar framework is RubyWaves, a Resource-Oriented Web framework that
offers a cleaner and more modular routing architecture than Rails. At its
simplest, it works just like Sinatra. Yet, it can be augmented with the MVC
pattern and work more like Rails/Merb if need be. Also, supports RACK
middleware just like Sinatra/Rails/Merb.
Andy
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Drew Olson wrote:
> + 1
> Sinatra is awesome for small, lightweight, web services as well. Very much
> worth looking into.
>
> - Drew
>
> On Jan 23, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Jonathan Soeder wrote:
>
> Nate,
>
> Sinatra is a beautiful piece of work and it is extremely light weight. I
> use it for soederpop.com to serve a few small ruby apps which I deploy
> through rack and passenger. I don't know that I'd use it for a complete
> application just yet, but for very simple scripts it is a godsend.
>
> js
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Nate Kirby wrote:
>
>> Jonathan,
>>
>> Not horribly out of date...That would be more like "Hey guys there is a
>> new framework at http://rubyonrails.org/ ". :)
>>
>> However, this does bring a question to my mind. Has anyone used or
>> thought about using Sinatra ? It looks very
>> lightweight - looks even lighter than Merb was before rails started
>> swallowing :).
>>
>> Blessings,
>> Nate
>>
>> Jonathan Tonkin wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi, All --
>>
>> I hope I'm not to horribly out of date on this, I've just been forwarded
>> an article that states that Rails 3.0 will merge with Merb. This is to
>> happen some time around May.
>>
>> http://www.infoworld.com/article/09/01/12/02NF-ruby-on-rails-merb_1.html
>>
>> -- Jon
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, David Chelimsky
>> * wrote:
>>
>> From: David Chelimsky
>> Subject: Re: [Chirb] Rails vs Merb
>> To: "Chirb discussion list"
>> Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 9:58 PM
>>
>> There's one thing I'd add to this. I've been working on a merb app
>> and, while the framework is still fairly young and there is a bit
>> of
>> churn (not API churn, but they've done 4 releases in a month), the
>> folks in the #merb channel on freenode are very, very helpful.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 7:23 PM, wrote:
>> > Things that distinguish Merb and Rails are:
>> > - Merb is thread-safe, multi-thread, Rails is single-thread, so Merb takes
>> > much less computing resources such as CPU and memory.
>> >
>> > - Code of Merb is more rubyist than Rails code, and easier to understand.
>> >
>> > - There are less libraries and plugins for Merb now, compared to Rails.
>> >
>> > - Merb community is currently smaller than Rails community.
>> >
>> > - Merb is smaller than Rails in term of amount dependent frameworks.
>> >
>> > Other than that, I think that they are pretty much similar.
>> >
>> > Linh.
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
>> >
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>> >
>> _______________________________________________ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.orghttp://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>>
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From natebkirby at yahoo.com Fri Jan 23 15:25:51 2009
From: natebkirby at yahoo.com (Nate Kirby)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:25:51 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Sinatra WAS => Re: Rails vs Merb
In-Reply-To: <620ca2c40901231148s27cc71cdo8dad1e56c6604577@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks Andy,
Actually, I think these simpler frameworks (like Merb and Sinatra) have
a real strong attraction. That is the lack of 'opinion-ation'. Rails is
opinionated and I have been punished a few times because I needed to
something different from what rails opinions demanded. It seems that
Sinatra has few opinions about how things need to be done. That can be
a good thing at times.
Blessings,
Nate
Andy Maleh wrote:
> Yeah, Sinatra is kinda like Rails 1.0, only simpler.
>
> A similar framework is RubyWaves, a Resource-Oriented Web framework
> that offers a cleaner and more modular routing architecture than
> Rails. At its simplest, it works just like Sinatra. Yet, it can be
> augmented with the MVC pattern and work more like Rails/Merb if need
> be. Also, supports RACK middleware just like Sinatra/Rails/Merb.
>
> Andy
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Drew Olson > wrote:
>
> + 1
>
> Sinatra is awesome for small, lightweight, web services as well.
> Very much worth looking into.
>
> - Drew
>
> On Jan 23, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Jonathan Soeder wrote:
>
>> Nate,
>>
>> Sinatra is a beautiful piece of work and it is extremely light
>> weight. I use it for soederpop.com to
>> serve a few small ruby apps which I deploy through rack and
>> passenger. I don't know that I'd use it for a complete
>> application just yet, but for very simple scripts it is a godsend.
>>
>> js
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Nate Kirby
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Jonathan,
>>
>> Not horribly out of date...That would be more like "Hey guys
>> there is a new framework at http://rubyonrails.org/ ". :)
>>
>> However, this does bring a question to my mind. Has anyone
>> used or thought about using Sinatra
>> ? It looks very lightweight -
>> looks even lighter than Merb was before rails started
>> swallowing :).
>>
>> Blessings,
>> Nate
>>
>> Jonathan Tonkin wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, All --
>>>
>>> I hope I'm not to horribly out of date on this, I've just
>>> been forwarded an article that states that Rails 3.0 will
>>> merge with Merb. This is to happen some time around May.
>>>
>>> http://www.infoworld.com/article/09/01/12/02NF-ruby-on-rails-merb_1.html
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Jon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, David Chelimsky
>>> / /* wrote:
>>>
>>> From: David Chelimsky
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Chirb] Rails vs Merb
>>> To: "Chirb discussion list"
>>>
>>>
>>> Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 9:58 PM
>>>
>>> There's one thing I'd add to this. I've been working on a merb app
>>> and, while the framework is still fairly young and there is a bit
>>> of
>>> churn (not API churn, but they've done 4 releases in a month), the
>>> folks in the #merb channel on freenode are very, very helpful.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 7:23 PM, wrote:
>>> > Things that distinguish Merb and Rails are:
>>> > - Merb is thread-safe, multi-thread, Rails is single-thread, so Merb takes
>>> > much less computing resources such as CPU and memory.
>>> >
>>> > - Code of Merb is more rubyist than Rails code, and easier to understand.
>>> >
>>> > - There are less libraries and plugins for Merb now, compared to Rails.
>>> >
>>> > - Merb community is currently smaller than Rails community.
>>> >
>>> > - Merb is smaller than Rails in term of amount dependent frameworks.
>>> >
>>> > Other than that, I think that they are pretty much similar.
>>> >
>>> > Linh.
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
>>> >
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>>> >
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> ChicagoGroup-Members-List at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/chicagogroup-members-list
>>>
>>>
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From: dave.hoover at gmail.com (Dave Hoover)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:28:55 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Sinatra WAS => Re: Rails vs Merb
In-Reply-To: <497A034B.9090904@yahoo.com>
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On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Nate Kirby wrote:
> However, this does bring a question to my mind. Has anyone used or thought
> about using Sinatra ? It looks very lightweight - looks even lighter than
> Merb was before rails started swallowing :).
We used Sinatra for a very small production project about a year ago
(where we're strangling legacy Perl with little Ruby apps). Sinatra
solves different problems than Rails does, and so it's an important
tool to have in the toolkit. I highly recommend taking a look. It's
ridiculously simple.
http://sinatra.github.com/
Dave Hoover
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From natebkirby at yahoo.com Sat Jan 24 10:01:09 2009
From: natebkirby at yahoo.com (Nate Kirby)
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:01:09 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Sinatra WAS => Re: Rails vs Merb
In-Reply-To: <11c8704e0901231228g7587939dle2be6d51a9ce7c51@mail.gmail.com>
References: <257263.3108.qm@web111301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <497A034B.9090904@yahoo.com>
<11c8704e0901231228g7587939dle2be6d51a9ce7c51@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <497B2D35.5080203@yahoo.com>
Dave,
Thanks for the feedback. I just found an old post
http://deadprogrammersociety.blogspot.com/2007/10/sinatra-ruby-web-framework-and-why-it.html
that states what I was trying to say about opinionated software using a
different (and more PC) tone.
Nate
Dave Hoover wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Nate Kirby wrote:
>
>> However, this does bring a question to my mind. Has anyone used or thought
>> about using Sinatra ? It looks very lightweight - looks even lighter than
>> Merb was before rails started swallowing :).
>>
>
> We used Sinatra for a very small production project about a year ago
> (where we're strangling legacy Perl with little Ruby apps). Sinatra
> solves different problems than Rails does, and so it's an important
> tool to have in the toolkit. I highly recommend taking a look. It's
> ridiculously simple.
>
> http://sinatra.github.com/
>
> Dave Hoover
> //obtiva: Agility applied. Software delivered.
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:02:26 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Save the Date Feb 20 - Martin Fowler at ThoughtWorks
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I thought this would interest. Sounds like Martin's talk will be on
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From coreyhaines at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 22:00:54 2009
From: coreyhaines at gmail.com (Corey Haines)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:00:54 -0500
Subject: [Chirb] Save the Date Feb 20 - Martin Fowler at ThoughtWorks
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I'm registered!
Thanks for the heads-up!
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Josh Cronemeyer
wrote:
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From sergio_pereira at msn.com Wed Jan 28 22:12:45 2009
From: sergio_pereira at msn.com (Sergio Pereira)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:12:45 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] ANN: Agile development talk
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I thought this might be interesting for at least some people in this
group. Robert "Uncle Bob" Martin is giving a talk on Feb 11th. The
talk is about Agile development.
Event page:
http://www.chicagoalt.net/event/February2009Meeting-XPAfter10yearswhyarewestilltalkingaboutit
Summary:
XP: After 10 years, why are we still talking about it?
It has been 10 years since Extreme Programming broke upon our
industry. In that time we have seen the rise of the Agile movement,
and the gold rush for Scrum certification. We have seen the concept of
testing do a complete reversal in emphasis; and shift away from heavy
planning. But what have we learned? Do we really all program in pairs?
Do we really all write our tests first? Do Agile projects really fare
better than others? Do we have enough data now to separate the truth
from the myth? And why, after all this time, does it still dominate
our conferences and conversations. Isn't there something new to talk
about?
Sorry if this announcement is considered inadequate for this list.
Just let me know and it will be the last.
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Sergio Pereira
sergio at sergiopereira.com
From andy at obtiva.com Wed Jan 28 23:37:43 2009
From: andy at obtiva.com (Andy Maleh)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:37:43 -0600
Subject: [Chirb] Save the Date Feb 20 - Martin Fowler at ThoughtWorks
In-Reply-To: <6bdacb70901281900u7906c5a0pd679ca5bd497f7f@mail.gmail.com>
References:
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Message-ID: <620ca2c40901282037t6aae18fctf7b11c569b0d7509@mail.gmail.com>
I registered too. Thank you.
Andy
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Corey Haines wrote:
> I'm registered!
>
> Thanks for the heads-up!
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Josh Cronemeyer <
> jcroneme at thoughtworks.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I thought this would interest. Sounds like Martin's talk will be on
>> DSL's, but even if it isn't it should be good. Make sure you rsvp (details
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