[Chirb] Sinatra WAS => Re: Rails vs Merb

Nate Kirby natebkirby at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 23 15:25:51 EST 2009


Thanks Andy,

Actually, I think these simpler frameworks (like Merb and Sinatra) have 
a real strong attraction. That is the lack of 'opinion-ation'.  Rails is 
opinionated and I have been punished a few times because I needed to 
something different from what rails opinions demanded.  It seems that 
Sinatra has few opinions about how things need to be done.  That can be 
a good thing at times.

Blessings,
Nate

Andy Maleh wrote:
> Yeah, Sinatra is kinda like Rails 1.0, only simpler.
>
> A similar framework is RubyWaves, a Resource-Oriented Web framework 
> that offers a cleaner and more modular routing architecture than 
> Rails. At its simplest, it works just like Sinatra. Yet, it can be 
> augmented with the MVC pattern and work more like Rails/Merb if need 
> be. Also, supports RACK middleware just like Sinatra/Rails/Merb.  
>
> Andy
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Drew Olson <olsonas at gmail.com 
> <mailto:olsonas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     + 1
>
>     Sinatra is awesome for small, lightweight, web services as well.
>     Very much worth looking into.
>
>     - Drew
>
>     On Jan 23, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Jonathan Soeder wrote:
>
>>     Nate,
>>
>>     Sinatra is a beautiful piece of work and it is extremely light
>>     weight.  I use it for soederpop.com <http://soederpop.com> to
>>     serve a few small ruby apps which I deploy through rack and
>>     passenger.  I don't know that I'd use it for a complete
>>     application just yet, but for very simple scripts it is a godsend.
>>
>>     js
>>
>>     On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Nate Kirby
>>     <natebkirby at yahoo.com <mailto:natebkirby at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Jonathan,
>>
>>         Not horribly out of date...That would be more like "Hey guys
>>         there is a new framework at http://rubyonrails.org/ ".  :)
>>
>>         However, this does bring a question to my mind.  Has anyone
>>         used or thought about using Sinatra
>>         <http://sinatra.github.com/> ?  It looks very lightweight -
>>         looks even lighter than Merb was before rails started
>>         swallowing :).
>>
>>         Blessings,
>>         Nate
>>
>>         Jonathan Tonkin wrote:
>>>
>>>         Hi, All --
>>>
>>>         I hope I'm not to horribly out of date on this, I've just
>>>         been forwarded an article that states that Rails 3.0 will
>>>         merge with Merb.  This is to happen some time around May.
>>>
>>>         http://www.infoworld.com/article/09/01/12/02NF-ruby-on-rails-merb_1.html
>>>
>>>
>>>         -- Jon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, David Chelimsky
>>>         /<dchelimsky at gmail.com> <mailto:dchelimsky at gmail.com>/* wrote:
>>>
>>>             From: David Chelimsky <dchelimsky at gmail.com>
>>>             <mailto:dchelimsky at gmail.com>
>>>             Subject: Re: [Chirb] Rails vs Merb
>>>             To: "Chirb discussion list"
>>>             <chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org>
>>>             <mailto:chicagogroup-members-list at rubyforge.org>
>>>             Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 9:58 PM
>>>
>>>             There's one thing I'd add to this. I've been working on a merb app
>>>             and, while the framework is still fairly young and there is a bit
>>>              of
>>>             churn (not API churn, but they've done 4 releases in a month), the
>>>             folks in the #merb channel on freenode are very, very helpful.
>>>
>>>             On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 7:23 PM,  <ninja at hanoian.com> <mailto:ninja at hanoian.com> wrote:
>>>             > Things that distinguish Merb and Rails are:
>>>             > - Merb is thread-safe, multi-thread, Rails is single-thread, so Merb takes
>>>             > much less computing resources such as CPU and memory.
>>>             >
>>>             > - Code of Merb is more rubyist than Rails code, and easier to understand.
>>>             >
>>>             > - There are less libraries and plugins for Merb now, compared to Rails.
>>>             >
>>>             > - Merb community is currently smaller than Rails community.
>>>             >
>>>             > - Merb is smaller than Rails in term of amount  dependent frameworks.
>>>             >
>>>             > Other than that, I think that they are pretty much similar.
>>>             >
>>>             > Linh.
>>>             >
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