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Rolf Russell<br>
Innovation Facilitator<br>
ThoughtWorks Inc<br>
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Re: desparate request for feedback on
cruisecontrol.rb before we release it</font><a href=Notes:///86256C520079FE86/38D46BF5E8F08834852564B500129B2C/3DBD2941E0DA01E286257288005B8621>Link</a></table>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hi Rolf,<br>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Please find some feedback from my short
and sweet experience with CC.rb on the Rezzline project.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><b>1. Have you used CC.rb? How
long? How many build projects? What version(s)?</b></font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Tried it out on our project 30 mins
before I was going to present on "Integrating CruiseControl with Rails"
based on our experience on the Rezzline project.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thought would make sense to mention
CC.rb as the latest solution for Ruby/Rails CI.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I tried 2-3 builds both passing and
failing ones to check out the reporting web app on Cruisecontrol.rb 0.4.0
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><b>2. How was it to install and
get running? Did it take more than 15 minutes?</b></font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">It was a snap installing CC.rb. It took
no more than 15 mins to get it up and running our build.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><b>3. What sucks about CC.rb?</b></font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">* The "force build" functionality
didnot work out of the box. Someone told me it's some bug with CC.rb. Hope
its fixed in 0.5.0</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><b>4. What is good about CC.rb?</b></font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">* Quick and easy installation, build
configuration.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">* Simple web interface.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">* Convention over Configuration. </font>
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When we tried our CC.rb, we already had a "cruise" target in
our rakefile. Also, we didnot have to edit any config files. So, everything
worked "out of the box". :-)</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">* The test failure/error report on build
page. </font>
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We were trying to generate junit style xml reports for our CruiseControl
(java version) build page. And we didnot find any reliable solution for
this. CC.rb solved it instantly.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><b>5. What are your top 3 missing
features?</b></font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">1. Custom build artifacts. </font>
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The documentation of 0.4.0 mentioned something about CRUISE_ARTIFACTS_DIR
property and force the artifacts to be copied to this directory only. </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I hope there will be support to collect
artifacts from different locations via CC.rb instead of forcing the build
to have a "copy_artifacts" task to copy to specific CC artifacts
dir.<br>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">2. The build page is a bit too plain
and simple.</font>
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May be we could do with some simple theme, project logo support etc. Also,
the latest build should be more prominent e.g. bold/bigger font etc.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">3. Bootstrapping.</font>
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I am not sure if CC.rb already has this feature. Sometimes, the build config
file etc are checked in to maintain history and ease of modification. So,
bootstrapping these files before a build is triggered is an important feature
IMO.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hope this helps and all the best with
the public release.</font>
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Cheers,<br>
Bhavin<br>
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Bhavin Javia,<br>
Developer,<br>
ThoughtWorks Inc,<br>
Bangalore, India.<br>
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YM: javiabhavin, Cell: +91 9845464893<br>
Blog: http://www.jroller.com/page/bhavin<br>
http://www.thoughtworks.com<br>
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Jonathan Harley/US/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks,
Bhavin Chandulal Javia/India/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks, David Cameron/Canada/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks,
Yogi Kulkarni/India/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks, Muness Alrubaie/US/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks,
Swaroop Bhandary/India/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks, Neal Ford/US/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks,
Patrick B Sarnacke/Corporate/ThoughtWorks/US@ThoughtWorks, Shane Harvie/OZ/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks,
Dan North/UK/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks, George Malamidis/UK/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks,
Paul Ingles/UK/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks, Shane Harvie/OZ/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks,
Carlos Villela/UK/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks, Stephen Chu/US/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks,
David J Rice/Corporate/ThoughtWorks/US@ThoughtWorks</font>
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Alexey Verkhovsky/Canada/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks,
Jeremy Stell-Smith/Corporate/ThoughtWorks/US@ThoughtWorks, Joe Poon/Canada/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks,
Josh Evnin/US/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks, Darci Dutcher/US/ThoughtWorks@ThoughtWorks</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hi all,</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">We are approaching the open source release
of CC.rb in the next 1-2 weeks and would like feedback on your experiences
with the tool. We haven't received a lot of feedback todate and this
makes us nervous. You are all people who expressed an interesting
in using CC.rb. So some questions:</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">1. Have you used CC.rb? How
long? How many build projects? What version(s)?</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">2. How was it to install and get
running? Did it take more than 15 minutes?</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">3. What sucks about CC.rb?</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">4. What is good about CC.rb?</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">5. What are your top 3 missing
features?</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thanks,</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">--Rolf</font>
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Rolf Russell<br>
Innovation Facilitator<br>
ThoughtWorks Inc<br>
+1 312 925 0608<br>
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