From Laurent.Julliard at xrce.xerox.com Tue Mar 1 09:15:14 2005 From: Laurent.Julliard at xrce.xerox.com (Laurent Julliard) Date: Tue Mar 1 10:03:59 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] FreeRIDE project - Call for help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <422478F2.70004@xrce.xerox.com> Adelle Hartley wrote: > Brian Moelk wrote: > >>I'm a Windows developer with background in C++ and Delphi. I >>would love to have a full featured IDE for Ruby. >>Unfortunately, I am *just* learning Ruby; but would love to >>help out in any way I can. > > > What he said. > > > I've noticed the instability myself - to the point that I have (for the time > being) stopped using FreeRide in favour of the text editor that gets > installed with the one-click ruby install (at least until I get ruby working > on linux). > > I've had a look at the free-ride source code but can't make much sense out > of it, so I don't really know where to start. > My reply to Brian Moelk applies. Starting with the documentation is the right thing to do as you'll learn the FR features but you'll also get into step-by-step > If the "intellisense" feature were ready, that would be enough to make me > put up with the instability :-) > If by "intellisense" you mean getting instant help on Ruby while wirting your code then it is in the latest CVS version. It's a new (and great!) plugin that I have just integrated that uses the Ruby documentation. Try it and you'll see that it makes the writing code experience completely different. Please coordinate with Brian on the mailing list. With the 2 of you in our band I'm sure we'll do some great work! Thanks for your help Laurent From Laurent.Julliard at xrce.xerox.com Tue Mar 1 09:15:02 2005 From: Laurent.Julliard at xrce.xerox.com (Laurent Julliard) Date: Tue Mar 1 10:03:59 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE project - Call for help - Guidelines for writing documentation In-Reply-To: <0MKz1m-1D5vY31G39-0008NZ@mrelay.perfora.net> References: <0MKz1m-1D5vY31G39-0008NZ@mrelay.perfora.net> Message-ID: <422478E6.7050302@xrce.xerox.com> Brian Moelk wrote: >>- Windows platform: this is where the most urgent need is. I am mostly >>a Linux developer and although I'm doing some testing on Win XP >>(through VMware), FreeRIDE is less stable on >>Windows than on Linux. For instance we need to improve the debugger, >>the script runner by making a batter use of the Windows Operating >>system capabilities, removing slowness in some places... Win2K >>and Win XP are the target platforms. > > > I'm a Windows developer with background in C++ and Delphi. I would love to > have a full featured IDE for Ruby. Unfortunately, I am *just* learning > Ruby; but would love to help out in any way I can. > > >>If you are interested in helping us then drop me a mail telling me >>where you want to contribute and subscribe to the FreeRIDE developers >>mailing list (see http://rubyforge.org/mail/?group_id=31). Working on >>FreeRIDE is a lot of fun and it is extremelly rewarding because as a >>Ruby developer you'll be improving a tool that makes Ruby programming >>even more fun. > > > I'm definitely interested. It may make sense for me to start by testing and > helping out in documentation. > > Regards, > > Brian Moelk > http://www.brainendeavor.com > Brian, Thanks for offering your help. It is very much appreciated. Getting into FreeRIDE when new to Ruby is not easy. I acknowledge that... Contributing to the documentation (user guide) is definitely the right thing to do. The user guide is currently published in the form of a wiki page available at http://freeride.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?UserDoc. I have already updated the documentation up to "Running FreeRIDE". All the rest is to be done. Since others have also suggested to update the documentation (e.g. Adelle Hartley) I have decided to check in the wiki page under our CVS repository in doc/userhelp.wiki So the modification life cycle is the following: - create a new account on RubyForge and let me know what your login name is once it is done. I'll make you a project member and you'll have CVS write access. - checkout the latest freeride from the CVS repository (see http://rubyforge.org/scm/?group_id=31) for instructions. And write the user documentation against this very latest version. - coordinate with others volunteers on the fr-devel mailing list to decide who is going to update which section of the user guide. - do the work :-) Which consists in editing the userhelp.wiki file . Check that the HTML formatting is correct by creating a page of your own on the FreeRIDE wiki (name it something like YourNameUserDocDevel) and copy paste the entire (or part of the user guide) to see how it looks in html. The formatting rules for the wiki we use (UserModwiki) are available at http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TextFormattingRules - Once you are happy with it commit your changes to userhelp.wiki in the CVS repo (Don't forget to edit the Changelog file before committing plus the Changelog file and the modified files must be checked in at the same time). - From time to time update the main user doc page on the wiki site with the latest userhelp.wiki - From time to time and in any case before any new FR release copy-paste the HTML version of the user doc page from the wiki site into the doc/userhelp.html file and check it in. Hope this will help you get started. If you have any question don't hesitate to ask on the devel mailing list In a second you could investigate a more convenient publiching format if any or how to better use the HTML file inside FR (HTML FOX widget??) or may be transform the user help format in RDOC format and use the RI text formatter that is already in the Ruby Doc plugin to display the doc... Food for thoughts. BUT documentation first!! Thanks for all your help. Laurent From Laurent.Julliard at xrce.xerox.com Wed Mar 2 16:11:22 2005 From: Laurent.Julliard at xrce.xerox.com (Laurent Julliard) Date: Wed Mar 2 16:07:09 2005 Subject: FW: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE project - Call for help - Guidelines forwriting documentation In-Reply-To: <0MKyxe-1D6JSu1Keq-0007UH@mrelay.perfora.net> References: <0MKyxe-1D6JSu1Keq-0007UH@mrelay.perfora.net> Message-ID: <42262BFA.5050009@xrce.xerox.com> Brian Moelk wrote: >>- create a new account on RubyForge and let me know what your login >>name is once it is done. I'll make you a project member and you'll >>have CVS write access. > > > Ok, I've created an account: bmoelk > Ok you are now a member of the FreeRIDE project. You have CVS write access as well as permissions on the tracker > >>- coordinate with others volunteers on the fr-devel mailing list to >>decide who is going to update which section of the user guide. > > > Who are the other people working on the user guide? > Adelle Hartley (cc'ed on this message) also volunteered. She is also a FreeRIDE project member. I was in the process of updating the User Guide myself but if the 2 of you take over the task Im going to focus on bug fixing now. As I said earlier the 2 of you should coordinate. Use the fr-devel mailing list to do so. By doing so ohter subscribers will see the traffic and may also want to help. > >>In a second you could investigate a more convenient publiching format >>if any or how to better use the HTML file inside FR (HTML FOX >>widget??) or may be transform the user help format in RDOC format and >>use the RI text formatter that is already in the Ruby Doc plugin to >>display the doc... Food for thoughts. BUT documentation first!! > > > This is the fun part ;) That's right :-) Again, Adelle and Brian, thanks for your help. Laurent From curt at hibbs.com Wed Mar 2 22:37:49 2005 From: curt at hibbs.com (Curt Hibbs) Date: Wed Mar 2 22:33:43 2005 Subject: FW: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE project - Call for help - Guidelinesforwriting documentation In-Reply-To: <42262BFA.5050009@xrce.xerox.com> Message-ID: Laurent Julliard wrote: > > Again, Adelle and Brian, thanks for your help. > > Laurent I know I've been pretty quiet during all of these emails (I been operating in over-load mode), but I do want to say welcome to the FreeRIDE project and I'm very glad to see you hear! Curt From laurent at moldus.org Wed Mar 9 15:32:43 2005 From: laurent at moldus.org (Laurent Julliard) Date: Wed Mar 9 15:28:29 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE release? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <422F5D6B.3070709@moldus.org> Curt Hibbs wrote: > I'd like to see a new release of FreeRIDE to get that awesome, embedded FXRi > out to the public. After that I'll make a new release of the one-click > installer so that users of its included FreeRIDE get it too. > > Two questions: > - is this a good time for a release? > - should be update to the latest FXRuby? > > I would advocate for the FXRuby update because I will want to ship the > updated one-click ruby installer with the latest version of FXRuby, and > FreeRIDE in there would be running with it anyway. > > Curt > After I integrated FXri I have also decided to implement code templates... It is almost done. Can we target the beginning of next week for 0.9.4? Also I'd like to coordinate with Adelle Hartley and Brian Moelk with respect to the user documentation. Adelle, Brian have you started working on the user guide? And if so would next week be a good date for a release? As to FXruby I have already upgraded to 1.2.4 on my side and everything seems to be working fine. Laurent From bmoelk at brainendeavor.com Wed Mar 9 15:39:44 2005 From: bmoelk at brainendeavor.com (Brian Moelk) Date: Wed Mar 9 15:30:47 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE release? References: <422F5D6B.3070709@moldus.org> Message-ID: <00a601c524e8$211e1780$fd2ca8c0@BMOELK> > Also I'd like to coordinate with Adelle Hartley and Brian Moelk with > respect to the user documentation. Adelle, Brian have you started > working on the user guide? And if so would next week be a good date > for a release? I haven't started. I'm closing on my condo this week (I hope) so will be tied up for a week or two (moving/unpacking). After that, I can squeeze in some time. -Brian From lyle at knology.net Wed Mar 9 15:36:00 2005 From: lyle at knology.net (lyle@knology.net) Date: Wed Mar 9 15:31:39 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE release? In-Reply-To: <> References: <> Message-ID: <20050309203600.2752.qmail@webmail2.knology.net> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 21:32:43 +0100, Laurent Julliard wrote : > As to FXruby I have already upgraded to 1.2.4 on my side and > everything seems to be working fine. For what it's worth, the latest release of FXRuby is 1.2.5; there were a few additional bug fixes over the 1.2.4 release. From curt at hibbs.com Wed Mar 9 15:44:39 2005 From: curt at hibbs.com (Curt Hibbs) Date: Wed Mar 9 15:40:29 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE release? In-Reply-To: <422F5D6B.3070709@moldus.org> Message-ID: Laurent Julliard wrote: > > Curt Hibbs wrote: > > I'd like to see a new release of FreeRIDE to get that awesome, > embedded FXRi > > out to the public. After that I'll make a new release of the one-click > > installer so that users of its included FreeRIDE get it too. > > > > Two questions: > > - is this a good time for a release? > > - should be update to the latest FXRuby? > > > > I would advocate for the FXRuby update because I will want to ship the > > updated one-click ruby installer with the latest version of FXRuby, and > > FreeRIDE in there would be running with it anyway. > > > > Curt > > > > After I integrated FXri I have also decided to implement code > templates... It is almost done. Can we target the beginning of next > week for 0.9.4? > > Also I'd like to coordinate with Adelle Hartley and Brian Moelk with > respect to the user documentation. Adelle, Brian have you started > working on the user guide? And if so would next week be a good date > for a release? That would work for me (especially the *end* of next week). > As to FXruby I have already upgraded to 1.2.4 on my side and > everything seems to be working fine. Excellent! Curt From curt at hibbs.com Wed Mar 9 15:45:25 2005 From: curt at hibbs.com (Curt Hibbs) Date: Wed Mar 9 15:41:07 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE release? In-Reply-To: <00a601c524e8$211e1780$fd2ca8c0@BMOELK> Message-ID: Brian Moelk wrote: > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 2:40 PM > To: freeride-devel@rubyforge.org > Subject: Re: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE release? > > > > Also I'd like to coordinate with Adelle Hartley and Brian Moelk with > > respect to the user documentation. Adelle, Brian have you started > > working on the user guide? And if so would next week be a good date > > for a release? > > I haven't started. I'm closing on my condo this week (I hope) so will be > tied up for a week or two (moving/unpacking). After that, I can > squeeze in > some time. Sounds like we'll have to go without it for this release. Curt From curt at hibbs.com Wed Mar 9 15:47:05 2005 From: curt at hibbs.com (Curt Hibbs) Date: Wed Mar 9 15:42:49 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE release? In-Reply-To: <20050309203600.2752.qmail@webmail2.knology.net> Message-ID: lyle@knology.net wrote: > > On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 21:32:43 +0100, Laurent Julliard > wrote : > > > As to FXruby I have already upgraded to 1.2.4 on my side and > > everything seems to be working fine. > > For what it's worth, the latest release of FXRuby is 1.2.5; there > were a few > additional bug fixes over the 1.2.4 release. You're moving too fast for me to keep up! :-) Ok, let's make sure that FreeRIDE works with 1.2.5, then. Curt From laurent at moldus.org Wed Mar 9 16:17:04 2005 From: laurent at moldus.org (Laurent Julliard) Date: Wed Mar 9 16:12:47 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE release? In-Reply-To: <20050309203600.2752.qmail@webmail2.knology.net> References: <> <20050309203600.2752.qmail@webmail2.knology.net> Message-ID: <422F67D0.9080603@moldus.org> lyle@knology.net wrote: > On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 21:32:43 +0100, Laurent Julliard > wrote : > > >>As to FXruby I have already upgraded to 1.2.4 on my side and >>everything seems to be working fine. > > > For what it's worth, the latest release of FXRuby is 1.2.5; there were a few > additional bug fixes over the 1.2.4 release. > Thanks for letting us know. Side question: I have seen that Jeroen is working like crazy these days... 1.4.x has been around for some time and 1.5.0 has just started. Are you thinking of having an 1.4.x version of FXRuby anytime soon? How many changes are there in the API compared to 1.2.x ? Is it more work than going from1.0 to 1.2 in your opinion? I'm just trying to understand how much work this is going to be for us. Thanks! Laurent From lyle at knology.net Wed Mar 9 17:06:38 2005 From: lyle at knology.net (lyle@knology.net) Date: Wed Mar 9 17:02:20 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE release? In-Reply-To: <> References: <> Message-ID: <20050309220638.2819.qmail@webmail2.knology.net> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 22:17:04 +0100, Laurent Julliard wrote : > Thanks for letting us know. Side question: I have seen that Jeroen is > working like crazy these days... 1.4.x has been around for some time > and 1.5.0 has just started. Yes. FOX version 1.4 became the "stable" release about a month ago. > Are you thinking of having an 1.4.x version of FXRuby anytime soon? I've just started looking at the changes, and I honestly don't know how long it will take before I can cook up FXRuby 1.4. I can't imagine it being any sooner than a month from now, and it may of course be longer than that, depending on the number and types of changes. > How many changes are there in the API compared to 1.2.x? Is it more > work than going from1.0 to 1.2 in your opinion? I'm just trying to > understand how much work this is going to be for us. Per the previous response, I don't know how many changes there are to existing APIs. Jeroen has assured me that it shouldn't be as bad as the change from 1.0 to 1.2, but he may be seeing that through rose-colored glasses. As I work through incorporating the changes into FXRuby, I hope to simultaneously put together a porting guide (i.e. "What's new in FOX 1.4") as I did the last time around, to try to ease the transition. From laurent at moldus.org Wed Mar 9 17:15:36 2005 From: laurent at moldus.org (Laurent Julliard) Date: Wed Mar 9 17:11:16 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE release? In-Reply-To: <20050309220638.2819.qmail@webmail2.knology.net> References: <> <20050309220638.2819.qmail@webmail2.knology.net> Message-ID: <422F7588.8030409@moldus.org> lyle@knology.net wrote: > > Per the previous response, I don't know how many changes there are to > existing APIs. Jeroen has assured me that it shouldn't be as bad as the > change from 1.0 to 1.2, but he may be seeing that through rose-colored > glasses. As I work through incorporating the changes into FXRuby, I hope to > simultaneously put together a porting guide (i.e. "What's new in FOX 1.4") > as I did the last time around, to try to ease the transition. > Great!! You are doing an awesome work on FXRuby Lyle! Laurent From adelle at bullet.net.au Wed Mar 9 22:42:19 2005 From: adelle at bullet.net.au (Adelle Hartley) Date: Wed Mar 9 21:37:56 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE release? In-Reply-To: <00a601c524e8$211e1780$fd2ca8c0@BMOELK> Message-ID: > > Also I'd like to coordinate with Adelle Hartley and Brian > Moelk with > > respect to the user documentation. Adelle, Brian have you started > > working on the user guide? And if so would next week be a good date > > for a release? > > I haven't started. I'm closing on my condo this week (I > hope) so will be tied up for a week or two > (moving/unpacking). After that, I can squeeze in some time. I'll be pretty busy for the next 8 weeks, so I won't be contributing much (if anything) until after that. At this stage, it looks like I'll have quite a bit of time during June, July, and the first half of August to apply to FreeRide and Rails. Adelle. From curt at hibbs.com Thu Mar 10 06:30:39 2005 From: curt at hibbs.com (Curt Hibbs) Date: Thu Mar 10 06:26:19 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] FreeRIDE problems [was [Rails] e=MCv] In-Reply-To: <6b8a2f8b05031001073c6b9dcb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: FreeRIDE uses FXRuby (FOX) GUI toolkit. Is your crash with irb repeatable? If so, please post details. Thanks for the feedback, I'll post this to the freeride-devel ML. Rob Park wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 08:47:05 -0600, Curt Hibbs wrote: > > You could also try FreeRIDE (written in Ruby). It has a tree browser for > > both the file system *and* the structure of the current ruby file being > > edited (module/class/method). If you get the version in CVS, it also has > > builtin ri ruby documentation (courtesy of FXRi). > > Interesting program, shows lots of potential. Complaints: > > 1. What widget set is it using? It does a very good job of looking > like a complete alien on my Fedora Core 3 box. Not only is it's UI a > totally different color, but when resizing the window, it displays an > outline instead of the window contents (displaying window contents is > how I have gnome configured). > > 2. I made it crash by playing with irb for about 2 seconds. nice. > > 3. "line wraping", not sure if that's meant to be "line raping" or > "line wrapping". Same thing either way I guess ;) > > 4. "an unused sub-pane", that's useful I'm sure. > > 5. File browser displays whole heirarchy for my filesystem. This is > not terribly useful. It means I get a big scrollbar just for > displaying system folders that are not important to me. Some way to > "reparent" the file view to the top level directory that you are > working in would be very nice. > > I'm not trying to be rude or anything, it's a very nice editor, I'm > just pointing out ways it could be even better (since it's goal is to > be the best ruby IDE...). > > For now I think I will use bluefish. It doesn't have code completion > or code folding, but it's syntax highlighting is prettier, the side > panel file browser can be reparented to the project directory you're > working in, and it's a standard GNOME app with proper GTK2 widgets. > > -- > One Guy With A Camera > http://rbpark.ath.cx > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.1 - Release Date: 3/9/2005 > From megatux at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 08:06:21 2005 From: megatux at gmail.com (Cristian Molina) Date: Thu Mar 10 08:01:59 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] new In-Reply-To: <200503092028.j29KSqdS021178@rubyforge.org> References: <200503092028.j29KSqdS021178@rubyforge.org> Message-ID: <2f2b341605031005065e9d4170@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I'm a bit new to Ruby, but I already love it :) I'm a developer with background in C++ & Java. I wish to contribute with documentation, I can translate it to spanish, too. My id in rubyforge is "megamanxxxar" I like the freeride databus & plugin architecture and the IDE in general, but I want to integrate it better with the my GNOME desktop. For now I'm playing porting FXIRB to Gtk toolkit. How hard is to add a Gtk plugin in Freeride? Exists debian packages for freeride? thanks! Cristian On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 15:28:52 -0500, freeride-devel-request@rubyforge.org wrote: > Send Freeride-devel mailing list submissions to > freeride-devel@rubyforge.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freeride-devel-request@rubyforge.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > freeride-devel-owner@rubyforge.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Freeride-devel digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: FXRi in FreeRIDE (done!) (Curt Hibbs) > 2. FreeRIDE project - Call for help (Laurent Julliard) > 3. RE: FreeRIDE project - Call for help (Brian Moelk) > 4. RE: FreeRIDE project - Call for help (Adelle Hartley) > 5. Re: FreeRIDE project - Call for help (Laurent Julliard) > 6. Re: FreeRIDE project - Call for help - Guidelines for writing > documentation (Laurent Julliard) > 7. Re: FW: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE project - Call for help - > Guidelines forwriting documentation (Laurent Julliard) > 8. RE: FW: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE project - Call for help - > Guidelinesforwriting documentation (Curt Hibbs) > 9. Re: FreeRIDE release? (Laurent Julliard) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:11:27 -0600 > From: "Curt Hibbs" > Subject: RE: [FR-devel] FXRi in FreeRIDE (done!) > To: "laurent Julliard" , > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" > > Very, very nice! > > Curt > > PS > I'm going to post this to ruby-talk. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: freeride-devel-bounces@rubyforge.org > > [mailto:freeride-devel-bounces@rubyforge.org]On Behalf Of Laurent Julliard > > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 1:02 PM > > To: FreeRIDE Developers > > Subject: [FR-devel] FXRi in FreeRIDE (done!) > > > > > > For fun: here is a screenshot of the FXRI plugin integrated in > > FreeRIDE. 3 hours of work total... Hasn't FreeRIDE a nice plugin > > architecture? > > > > This will be in 0.9.4 for sure. > > > > laurent > > > > > > -- > > Laurent JULLIARD > > Xerox Global Services > > Business Process Services > > Manager, Smart Documents Platforms > > Tel: +33 (0)4 76 61 50 48 > > Fax: +33 (0)4 76 61 51 99 > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 2/18/2005 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 08:00:37 -0500 > From: Laurent Julliard > Subject: [FR-devel] FreeRIDE project - Call for help > To: FreeRIDE Developers , FreeRIDE Users > , Ruby Talk > Message-ID: <422315F5.1070308@xrce.xerox.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > All, > > Since its inception in September 2001, FreeRIDE, the 100% Ruby IDE, > has made a lot of progress (http://freeride.rubyforge.org). The > current version has quite a large number features and, above all, the > underlying plugin architecture (FreeBASE databus) has proven to be > stable and perfectly suited for this type of application. > > As of today, Curt Hibbs and I are the only active project members with > Curt focusing on the delivery of the Windows installer and myself on > the software development activities. FreeRIDE has reached a point > where it has plenty of nice features that makes it appealing but it > also has weaknesses that can be (really) annoying. > > Most notably we are looking for help in the following areas: > > - Documentation: FreeRIDE has a user guide but it is quite outdated. I > have just started revamping it but I definitely need help in this > area. It's not a big thing as FreeRIDE is quite easy to use. In a > second step the user guide needs a better integration in FreeRIDE. > This means deciding on a format that is suitable for online publishing > and viewing within the FOX framework. > > - Windows platform: this is where the most urgent need is. I am mostly > a Linux developer and although I'm doing some testing on Win XP > (through VMware), FreeRIDE is less stable on > Windows than on Linux. For instance we need to improve the debugger, > the script runner by making a batter use of the Windows Operating > system capabilities, removing slowness in some places... Win2K > and Win XP are the target platforms. > > - MacOSX platform: there has been some attempt lately to deliver a > FreeRIDE installer for MacOSX but I need an active person in the core > team responsible for driving the MacOSX community and organizing the > work and/or building the MacOSX installer like Curt does for Windows > and I do for Linux. > > - Testing, testing, testing...: testers are > badly needed. By testers I mean people that use FreeRIDE but are also > willing to identify the root cause of a bug and fix it. I use FreeRIDE > myself for FreeRIDE development but I tend to always do the same > operations which is not o good way of testing. > > If you are interested in helping us then drop me a mail telling me > where you want to contribute and subscribe to the FreeRIDE developers > mailing list (see http://rubyforge.org/mail/?group_id=31). Working on > FreeRIDE is a lot of fun and it is extremelly rewarding because as a > Ruby developer you'll be improving a tool that makes Ruby programming > even more fun. > > Thanks for all your help! > > Laurent Julliard > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:47:51 -0500 > From: "Brian Moelk" > Subject: RE: [FR-devel] FreeRIDE project - Call for help > To: > Message-ID: <0MKz1m-1D5vY31G39-0008NZ@mrelay.perfora.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > - Windows platform: this is where the most urgent need is. I am mostly > > a Linux developer and although I'm doing some testing on Win XP > > (through VMware), FreeRIDE is less stable on > > Windows than on Linux. For instance we need to improve the debugger, > > the script runner by making a batter use of the Windows Operating > > system capabilities, removing slowness in some places... Win2K > > and Win XP are the target platforms. > > I'm a Windows developer with background in C++ and Delphi. I would love to > have a full featured IDE for Ruby. Unfortunately, I am *just* learning > Ruby; but would love to help out in any way I can. > > > If you are interested in helping us then drop me a mail telling me > > where you want to contribute and subscribe to the FreeRIDE developers > > mailing list (see http://rubyforge.org/mail/?group_id=31). Working on > > FreeRIDE is a lot of fun and it is extremelly rewarding because as a > > Ruby developer you'll be improving a tool that makes Ruby programming > > even more fun. > > I'm definitely interested. It may make sense for me to start by testing and > helping out in documentation. > > Regards, > > Brian Moelk > http://www.brainendeavor.com > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 13:32:33 +1000 > From: "Adelle Hartley" > Subject: RE: [FR-devel] FreeRIDE project - Call for help > To: freeride-devel@rubyforge.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Brian Moelk wrote: > > I'm a Windows developer with background in C++ and Delphi. I > > would love to have a full featured IDE for Ruby. > > Unfortunately, I am *just* learning Ruby; but would love to > > help out in any way I can. > > What he said. > > I've noticed the instability myself - to the point that I have (for the time > being) stopped using FreeRide in favour of the text editor that gets > installed with the one-click ruby install (at least until I get ruby working > on linux). > > I've had a look at the free-ride source code but can't make much sense out > of it, so I don't really know where to start. > > If the "intellisense" feature were ready, that would be enough to make me > put up with the instability :-) > > Adelle. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 09:15:14 -0500 > From: Laurent Julliard > Subject: Re: [FR-devel] FreeRIDE project - Call for help > To: freeride-devel@rubyforge.org > Message-ID: <422478F2.70004@xrce.xerox.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Adelle Hartley wrote: > > Brian Moelk wrote: > > > >>I'm a Windows developer with background in C++ and Delphi. I > >>would love to have a full featured IDE for Ruby. > >>Unfortunately, I am *just* learning Ruby; but would love to > >>help out in any way I can. > > > > > > What he said. > > > > > > I've noticed the instability myself - to the point that I have (for the time > > being) stopped using FreeRide in favour of the text editor that gets > > installed with the one-click ruby install (at least until I get ruby working > > on linux). > > > > I've had a look at the free-ride source code but can't make much sense out > > of it, so I don't really know where to start. > > > > My reply to Brian Moelk applies. Starting with the documentation is > the right thing to do as you'll learn the FR features but you'll also > get into step-by-step > > > If the "intellisense" feature were ready, that would be enough to make me > > put up with the instability :-) > > > > If by "intellisense" you mean getting instant help on Ruby while > wirting your code then it is in the latest CVS version. It's a new > (and great!) plugin that I have just integrated that uses the Ruby > documentation. Try it and you'll see that it makes the writing code > experience completely different. > > Please coordinate with Brian on the mailing list. With the 2 of you in > our band I'm sure we'll do some great work! > > Thanks for your help > > Laurent > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 09:15:02 -0500 > From: Laurent Julliard > Subject: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE project - Call for help - Guidelines > for writing documentation > To: freeride-devel@rubyforge.org > Message-ID: <422478E6.7050302@xrce.xerox.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Brian Moelk wrote: > >>- Windows platform: this is where the most urgent need is. I am mostly > >>a Linux developer and although I'm doing some testing on Win XP > >>(through VMware), FreeRIDE is less stable on > >>Windows than on Linux. For instance we need to improve the debugger, > >>the script runner by making a batter use of the Windows Operating > >>system capabilities, removing slowness in some places... Win2K > >>and Win XP are the target platforms. > > > > > > I'm a Windows developer with background in C++ and Delphi. I would love to > > have a full featured IDE for Ruby. Unfortunately, I am *just* learning > > Ruby; but would love to help out in any way I can. > > > > > >>If you are interested in helping us then drop me a mail telling me > >>where you want to contribute and subscribe to the FreeRIDE developers > >>mailing list (see http://rubyforge.org/mail/?group_id=31). Working on > >>FreeRIDE is a lot of fun and it is extremelly rewarding because as a > >>Ruby developer you'll be improving a tool that makes Ruby programming > >>even more fun. > > > > > > I'm definitely interested. It may make sense for me to start by testing and > > helping out in documentation. > > > > Regards, > > > > Brian Moelk > > http://www.brainendeavor.com > > > > Brian, > > Thanks for offering your help. It is very much appreciated. Getting > into FreeRIDE when new to Ruby is not easy. I acknowledge that... > > Contributing to the documentation (user guide) is definitely the right > thing to do. The user guide is currently published in the form of a > wiki page available at > http://freeride.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?UserDoc. I have already > updated the documentation up to "Running FreeRIDE". All the rest is to > be done. Since others have also suggested to update the documentation > (e.g. Adelle Hartley) I have decided to check in the wiki page under > our CVS repository in doc/userhelp.wiki > > So the modification life cycle is the following: > > - create a new account on RubyForge and let me know what your login > name is once it is done. I'll make you a project member and you'll > have CVS write access. > > - checkout the latest freeride from the CVS repository (see > http://rubyforge.org/scm/?group_id=31) for instructions. And write the > user documentation against this very latest version. > > - coordinate with others volunteers on the fr-devel mailing list to > decide who is going to update which section of the user guide. > > - do the work :-) Which consists in editing the userhelp.wiki file . > Check that the HTML formatting is correct by creating a page of your > own on the FreeRIDE wiki (name it something like YourNameUserDocDevel) > and copy paste the entire (or part of the user guide) to see how it > looks in html. The formatting rules for the wiki we use (UserModwiki) > are available at http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TextFormattingRules > > - Once you are happy with it commit your changes to userhelp.wiki in > the CVS repo (Don't forget to edit the Changelog file before > committing plus the Changelog file and the modified files must be > checked in at the same time). > > - From time to time update the main user doc page on the wiki site > with the latest userhelp.wiki > > - From time to time and in any case before any new FR release > copy-paste the HTML version of the user doc page from the wiki site > into the doc/userhelp.html file and check it in. > > Hope this will help you get started. If you have any question don't > hesitate to ask on the devel mailing list > > In a second you could investigate a more convenient publiching format > if any or how to better use the HTML file inside FR (HTML FOX > widget??) or may be transform the user help format in RDOC format and > use the RI text formatter that is already in the Ruby Doc plugin to > display the doc... Food for thoughts. BUT documentation first!! > > Thanks for all your help. > > Laurent > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 16:11:22 -0500 > From: Laurent Julliard > Subject: Re: FW: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE project - Call for help - > Guidelines forwriting documentation > To: Brian Moelk > Cc: FreeRIDE Developers > Message-ID: <42262BFA.5050009@xrce.xerox.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Brian Moelk wrote: > >>- create a new account on RubyForge and let me know what your login > >>name is once it is done. I'll make you a project member and you'll > >>have CVS write access. > > > > > > Ok, I've created an account: bmoelk > > > > Ok you are now a member of the FreeRIDE project. You have CVS write > access as well as permissions on the tracker > > > > >>- coordinate with others volunteers on the fr-devel mailing list to > >>decide who is going to update which section of the user guide. > > > > > > Who are the other people working on the user guide? > > > > Adelle Hartley (cc'ed on this message) also volunteered. She is also a > FreeRIDE project member. I was in the process of updating the User > Guide myself but if the 2 of you take over the task Im going to focus > on bug fixing now. > > As I said earlier the 2 of you should coordinate. Use the fr-devel > mailing list to do so. By doing so ohter subscribers will see the > traffic and may also want to help. > > > > >>In a second you could investigate a more convenient publiching format > >>if any or how to better use the HTML file inside FR (HTML FOX > >>widget??) or may be transform the user help format in RDOC format and > >>use the RI text formatter that is already in the Ruby Doc plugin to > >>display the doc... Food for thoughts. BUT documentation first!! > > > > > > This is the fun part ;) > > That's right :-) > > Again, Adelle and Brian, thanks for your help. > > Laurent > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:37:49 -0600 > From: "Curt Hibbs" > Subject: RE: FW: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE project - Call for help - > Guidelinesforwriting documentation > To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" > > Laurent Julliard wrote: > > > > Again, Adelle and Brian, thanks for your help. > > > > Laurent > > I know I've been pretty quiet during all of these emails (I been operating > in over-load mode), but I do want to say welcome to the FreeRIDE project and > I'm very glad to see you hear! > > Curt > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 21:32:43 +0100 > From: Laurent Julliard > Subject: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE release? > To: FreeRIDE Developers > Message-ID: <422F5D6B.3070709@moldus.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Curt Hibbs wrote: > > I'd like to see a new release of FreeRIDE to get that awesome, embedded FXRi > > out to the public. After that I'll make a new release of the one-click > > installer so that users of its included FreeRIDE get it too. > > > > Two questions: > > - is this a good time for a release? > > - should be update to the latest FXRuby? > > > > I would advocate for the FXRuby update because I will want to ship the > > updated one-click ruby installer with the latest version of FXRuby, and > > FreeRIDE in there would be running with it anyway. > > > > Curt > > > > After I integrated FXri I have also decided to implement code > templates... It is almost done. Can we target the beginning of next > week for 0.9.4? > > Also I'd like to coordinate with Adelle Hartley and Brian Moelk with > respect to the user documentation. Adelle, Brian have you started > working on the user guide? And if so would next week be a good date > for a release? > > As to FXruby I have already upgraded to 1.2.4 on my side and > everything seems to be working fine. > > Laurent > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Freeride-devel mailing list > Freeride-devel@rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel > > End of Freeride-devel Digest, Vol 15, Issue 1 > ********************************************* > -- ----------------------------------------------------- .^. In an open world, who needs windows or gates? /V\ Cristian Molina // \\ GNU/Linux User #73047 LUGAR user #2124 /( _ )\ BsAs-Argentina ^^ ^^ --------------------------------------------- From megatux at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 08:13:47 2005 From: megatux at gmail.com (Cristian Molina) Date: Thu Mar 10 08:09:24 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] apologies In-Reply-To: <200503101302.j2AD2OdS008350@rubyforge.org> References: <200503101302.j2AD2OdS008350@rubyforge.org> Message-ID: <2f2b3416050310051352c6b4bf@mail.gmail.com> Sorry to all for the fail long reply :( From laurent at moldus.org Thu Mar 10 08:30:49 2005 From: laurent at moldus.org (Laurent Julliard) Date: Thu Mar 10 08:26:28 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] new In-Reply-To: <2f2b341605031005065e9d4170@mail.gmail.com> References: <200503092028.j29KSqdS021178@rubyforge.org> <2f2b341605031005065e9d4170@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42304C09.9020905@moldus.org> Cristian Molina wrote: > Hi, > I'm a bit new to Ruby, but I already love it :) > I'm a developer with background in C++ & Java. > I wish to contribute with documentation, I can translate it to spanish, too. > My id in rubyforge is "megamanxxxar" > I like the freeride databus & plugin architecture and the IDE in > general, but I want to integrate it better with the my GNOME desktop. > > For now I'm playing porting FXIRB to Gtk toolkit. > How hard is to add a Gtk plugin in Freeride? > Although the FOX UI stuff is well separated from the plugin (model) it would be quite some work to go from FOX to Gnome. We have add for long th idea to move from FOX to WxWindows which uses the native widgets on each platform (Gtk on Linux) but have not done it yet because of lack of resources. Laurent > Exists debian packages for freeride? > Yes look at http://freeride.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?DebianInstall Laurent From laurent at moldus.org Fri Mar 11 17:35:30 2005 From: laurent at moldus.org (Laurent Julliard) Date: Fri Mar 11 17:31:06 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] FR 0.9.4rc1 - testers needed Message-ID: <42321D32.1060105@moldus.org> We are about to release FR 0.9.4. Assistance from Windows users is welcome to test the new features implemented in this release: - postion/size of undocked panes is remembered by FR from one work session to another - Ruby Documentation plugin integrated (hit F9 to launch the plugin, then type CTRL-Space anywhere in your code to get help) - Cursor color and width can now be customized in the Editor preferences - Code Templates are now available. Place your cursor anywhere in your code, type CTRL-J and choose in the list of templates. (you can either select one wiuth the mouse or with the first,second character of template name (backspace to go one level up) or with the up/down arrows You can get the latest version from CVS either by updating your working copy or exporting the source code like this cvs -d:ext:ljulliar@rubyforge.org:/var/cvs/freeride export -r FR_0_9_4rc1 -d freeride-0.9.4rc1 freeride Laurent From curt at hibbs.com Fri Mar 11 20:01:45 2005 From: curt at hibbs.com (Curt Hibbs) Date: Fri Mar 11 19:57:22 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] FR 0.9.4rc1 - testers needed In-Reply-To: <42321D32.1060105@moldus.org> Message-ID: Laurent Julliard wrote: > > We are about to release FR 0.9.4. Assistance from Windows users is > welcome to test the new features implemented in this release: > > - postion/size of undocked panes is remembered by FR from one work > session to another > > - Ruby Documentation plugin integrated (hit F9 to launch the plugin, > then type CTRL-Space anywhere in your code to get help) > > - Cursor color and width can now be customized in the Editor preferences > > - Code Templates are now available. Place your cursor anywhere in your > code, type CTRL-J and choose in the list of templates. (you can either > select one wiuth the mouse or with the first,second character of > template name (backspace to go one level up) or with the up/down arrows > > You can get the latest version from CVS either by updating your > working copy or exporting the source code like this > > cvs -d:ext:ljulliar@rubyforge.org:/var/cvs/freeride export -r > FR_0_9_4rc1 -d freeride-0.9.4rc1 freeride Great! I just updated from CVS, and I'll start using it this weekend. Curt From laurent at moldus.org Sat Mar 12 16:11:43 2005 From: laurent at moldus.org (Laurent Julliard) Date: Sat Mar 12 16:07:01 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] FR 0.9.4rc2 is out - testers needed Message-ID: <42335B0F.7060605@moldus.org> We are about to release FR 0.9.4. Assistance from Windows users is welcome to test the new features implemented in this release: Fixes from 0.9.4rc1 ------------------- - Replace CTRL-SPACE for Ruby Doc with F1 which does both Ruby Doc plugin opening and instant lookup - Fix on a "focus out" event detected while dynamically resizing the code template dialog box New features in 0.9.4 to be tested ---------------------------------- - postion/size of undocked panes is remembered by FR from one work session to another - Ruby Documentation plugin integrated (hit F1 to launch the plugin, and/or to get help anywhere in your code) - Cursor color and width can now be customized in the Editor preferences - Code Templates are now available. Place your cursor anywhere in your code, type CTRL-J and choose in the list of templates. (you can either select one wiuth the mouse or with the first,second character of template name (backspace to go one level up) or with the up/down arrows You can get the latest version from CVS either by updating your working copy or exporting the source code like this cvs -d:ext:ljulliar@rubyforge.org:/var/cvs/freeride export -r FR_0_9_4rc2 -d freeride-0.9.4rc2 freeride Laurent From curt at hibbs.com Sun Mar 13 00:17:00 2005 From: curt at hibbs.com (Curt Hibbs) Date: Sun Mar 13 00:12:34 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] FR 0.9.4rc2 is out - testers needed In-Reply-To: <42335B0F.7060605@moldus.org> Message-ID: Laurent Julliard wrote: > > We are about to release FR 0.9.4. Assistance from Windows users is > welcome to test the new features implemented in this release: > > Fixes from 0.9.4rc1 > ------------------- > - Replace CTRL-SPACE for Ruby Doc with F1 which does both Ruby Doc > plugin opening and instant lookup F1 does *not* work for me on Windows, Ctrl-Space *does* work. > - Code Templates are now available. Place your cursor anywhere in your > code, type CTRL-J and choose in the list of templates. (you can either > select one wiuth the mouse or with the first,second character of > template name (backspace to go one level up) or with the up/down arrows This works great... I love it! Curt From laurent at moldus.org Sun Mar 13 08:05:15 2005 From: laurent at moldus.org (Laurent Julliard) Date: Sun Mar 13 08:00:28 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] FR 0.9.4rc2 is out - testers needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42343A8B.8060200@moldus.org> Curt Hibbs wrote: > Laurent Julliard wrote: > >>We are about to release FR 0.9.4. Assistance from Windows users is >>welcome to test the new features implemented in this release: >> >>Fixes from 0.9.4rc1 >>------------------- >>- Replace CTRL-SPACE for Ruby Doc with F1 which does both Ruby Doc >>plugin opening and instant lookup > > > F1 does *not* work for me on Windows, Ctrl-Space *does* work. > I discovered that the tag name for rc2 was wrong. I used FX_... instead of FR_... So please checkout FR_0_9_4rc2 again and see if it works. F1 works just fine for me on Windows XP. > >>- Code Templates are now available. Place your cursor anywhere in your >>code, type CTRL-J and choose in the list of templates. (you can either >>select one wiuth the mouse or with the first,second character of >>template name (backspace to go one level up) or with the up/down arrows > > > This works great... I love it! It's quite handy I must say... Laurent From laurent at moldus.org Thu Mar 24 02:11:33 2005 From: laurent at moldus.org (Laurent Julliard) Date: Thu Mar 24 02:06:41 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] Re: fxri small updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42426825.20604@moldus.org> Martin Ankerl wrote: > Hi, I have just made a few fixes of fxri so that it fits better into > the small freeride window. > I have applied the modifications to the CVS version of freeride, > checked out a few hours ago. > Thanks a lot ! I'll integrate this over the week-end. it will be in release 0.9.4 Keep doing the good work! Laurent -- Laurent JULLIARD http://www.moldus.org/~laurent From laurent at moldus.org Thu Mar 24 08:01:58 2005 From: laurent at moldus.org (Laurent Julliard) Date: Thu Mar 24 07:57:08 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] FreeRIDE source parser Message-ID: <4242BA46.6060805@moldus.org> Rich, A quick question on FreeRIDE: do you remember why at some point you switch from the ripper based source parser to a more basic version that relies on indentation to perform its job. is it because the ripper version was unstable or because it was an overkill? By the way: what Ruby parsers do we these days? I mean other than ripper... does anybody knows? Laurent From surrender_it at yahoo.it Thu Mar 24 08:30:38 2005 From: surrender_it at yahoo.it (gabriele renzi) Date: Thu Mar 24 08:25:46 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] FreeRIDE source parser In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050324133038.79763.qmail@web26210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --- Laurent Julliard wrote: > Rich, > > A quick question on FreeRIDE: do you remember why at > some point you > switch from the ripper based source parser to a more > basic version > that relies on indentation to perform its job. > > is it because the ripper version was unstable or > because it was an > overkill? For what *I* recall it was cause of stability problems. But as of now ripper is again included in FR since it is needed from RRB, so it may make sense to plug back the old parser. > By the way: what Ruby parsers do we these days? I > mean other than > ripper... does anybody knows? I can think of ruth wich is used from rubydium, and there is ParseTree. IMHO it may make sense to keep using ripper, since it is now included in ruby CVS and always kept in sync with CVS ruby. icq #69488917 ___________________________________ Nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: E' molto pi? divertente: Audibles, Avatar, Webcam, Giochi, Rubrica Scaricalo ora! http://it.messenger.yahoo.it From rich at infoether.com Thu Mar 24 09:25:14 2005 From: rich at infoether.com (Richard Kilmer) Date: Thu Mar 24 09:20:23 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] Re: FreeRIDE source parser In-Reply-To: <4242BA46.6060805@moldus.org> Message-ID: We switched because of Ruby 1.8. Ripper was based on 1.6.8 at the time. I believe its back up to 1.8 now...but that was the reason we switched. I don't know off the top of my head which parsers are out there today...its still one of the black arts of Ruby ;-) -rich On 3/24/05 8:01 AM, "Laurent Julliard" wrote: > Rich, > > A quick question on FreeRIDE: do you remember why at some point you > switch from the ripper based source parser to a more basic version > that relies on indentation to perform its job. > > is it because the ripper version was unstable or because it was an > overkill? > > By the way: what Ruby parsers do we these days? I mean other than > ripper... does anybody knows? > > Laurent > From laurent at moldus.org Thu Mar 24 16:52:37 2005 From: laurent at moldus.org (Laurent Julliard) Date: Thu Mar 24 16:47:45 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] FreeRIDE source parser In-Reply-To: <20050324133038.79763.qmail@web26210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20050324133038.79763.qmail@web26210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <424336A5.7010708@moldus.org> gabriele renzi wrote: > >>By the way: what Ruby parsers do we these days? I >>mean other than >>ripper... does anybody knows? > > > I can think of ruth wich is used from rubydium, and > there is ParseTree. > IMHO it may make sense to keep using ripper, since it > is now included in ruby CVS and always kept in sync > with CVS ruby. > I failed to find it in the Ruby CVS repo. Do you know where it is exactly? Thanks Laurent From surrender_it at yahoo.it Fri Mar 25 03:57:10 2005 From: surrender_it at yahoo.it (gabriele renzi) Date: Fri Mar 25 03:52:16 2005 Subject: [FR-devel] FreeRIDE source parser In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050325085710.2743.qmail@web26209.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --- Laurent Julliard wrote: > gabriele renzi wrote: > > > > >>By the way: what Ruby parsers do we these days? I > >>mean other than > >>ripper... does anybody knows? > > > > > > I can think of ruth wich is used from rubydium, > and > > there is ParseTree. > > IMHO it may make sense to keep using ripper, since > it > > is now included in ruby CVS and always kept in > sync > > with CVS ruby. > > > > I failed to find it in the Ruby CVS repo. Do you > know where it is exactly? > > Thanks > > Laurent in cvs HEAD it's in ext/ripper, and someway on windows I have it installed with the one-click installer. But it seem that it does not appear in the ruby_1_8 branch. sorry :( icq #69488917 ___________________________________ Nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: E' molto pi? divertente: Audibles, Avatar, Webcam, Giochi, Rubrica Scaricalo ora! http://it.messenger.yahoo.it