From martindemello at gmail.com  Sun Jun 10 08:29:48 2007
From: martindemello at gmail.com (Martin DeMello)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:59:48 +0530
Subject: [FR-devel] officially dead?!
Message-ID: <f93a6bcc0706100529j3046f941g9e39d86982cdb273@mail.gmail.com>

Is FreeRIDE really closing its doors, or did someone vandalise the wiki?

martin

From nochoice at xs4all.nl  Sun Jun 10 09:47:19 2007
From: nochoice at xs4all.nl (Jonathan Maasland)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:47:19 +0200
Subject: [FR-devel] officially dead?!
In-Reply-To: <f93a6bcc0706100529j3046f941g9e39d86982cdb273@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f93a6bcc0706100529j3046f941g9e39d86982cdb273@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <466C00E7.5040702@xs4all.nl>

Well I know that our wiki is vandalized quite often but I wouldn't call
FreeRIDE dead. At the moment I'm working on fixing Ripper which is quite
alot of work so I'm not really looking at the wiki changes. Alot of
vandalized pages didn't exist before we got targeted by some automated
wiki vandalizer. That being said there's still alot of work to be done
before we can even think of getting a new release out. (Especially on my
part)

Jonathan

Martin DeMello wrote:
> Is FreeRIDE really closing its doors, or did someone vandalise the wiki?
>
> martin
> _______________________________________________
> Freeride-devel mailing list
> Freeride-devel at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel
>
>
>   


From martindemello at gmail.com  Sun Jun 10 09:57:29 2007
From: martindemello at gmail.com (Martin DeMello)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:27:29 +0530
Subject: [FR-devel] officially dead?!
In-Reply-To: <466C00E7.5040702@xs4all.nl>
References: <f93a6bcc0706100529j3046f941g9e39d86982cdb273@mail.gmail.com>
	<466C00E7.5040702@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <f93a6bcc0706100657n964294cx939cbd40302fe01d@mail.gmail.com>

This is not your typical wikispam - it's a very official looking
notice on the front page:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the home page for FreeRIDE, a dead IDE for the Ruby
programming language. It is distributed under the same terms as Ruby
itself. If this is your first visit here, please click on Preferences
above to register so that your name can be associated with your
changes and contributions.

2007-05-21 FreeRIDE Is Officially Dead
We are sorry to announce that FreeRIDE is now dead. Sorry for wasting
everyone's time.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It set off my vandal meter, but I thought I'd check before reverting it.

martin

On 6/10/07, Jonathan Maasland <nochoice at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> Well I know that our wiki is vandalized quite often but I wouldn't call
> FreeRIDE dead. At the moment I'm working on fixing Ripper which is quite
> alot of work so I'm not really looking at the wiki changes. Alot of
> vandalized pages didn't exist before we got targeted by some automated
> wiki vandalizer. That being said there's still alot of work to be done
> before we can even think of getting a new release out. (Especially on my
> part)
>
> Jonathan
>
> Martin DeMello wrote:
> > Is FreeRIDE really closing its doors, or did someone vandalise the wiki?
> >
> > martin
> > _______________________________________________
> > Freeride-devel mailing list
> > Freeride-devel at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel
> >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Freeride-devel mailing list
> Freeride-devel at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel
>

From nochoice at xs4all.nl  Sun Jun 10 10:09:46 2007
From: nochoice at xs4all.nl (Jonathan Maasland)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:09:46 +0200
Subject: [FR-devel] officially dead?!
In-Reply-To: <f93a6bcc0706100657n964294cx939cbd40302fe01d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f93a6bcc0706100529j3046f941g9e39d86982cdb273@mail.gmail.com>	<466C00E7.5040702@xs4all.nl>
	<f93a6bcc0706100657n964294cx939cbd40302fe01d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <466C062A.9010909@xs4all.nl>

Hadn't noticed that. Maybe Laurent or Curt could say something about this.
To be honest I would've expected that an email would've been sent to
either mailinglist if FR really were to be pronounced dead.

Besides, after a long year, I'm back to working on FR so it's not as if
it is really really dead.

Jonathan

Martin DeMello wrote:
> This is not your typical wikispam - it's a very official looking
> notice on the front page:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This is the home page for FreeRIDE, a dead IDE for the Ruby
> programming language. It is distributed under the same terms as Ruby
> itself. If this is your first visit here, please click on Preferences
> above to register so that your name can be associated with your
> changes and contributions.
>
> 2007-05-21 FreeRIDE Is Officially Dead
> We are sorry to announce that FreeRIDE is now dead. Sorry for wasting
> everyone's time.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> It set off my vandal meter, but I thought I'd check before reverting it.
>
> martin
>
> On 6/10/07, Jonathan Maasland <nochoice at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>   
>> Well I know that our wiki is vandalized quite often but I wouldn't call
>> FreeRIDE dead. At the moment I'm working on fixing Ripper which is quite
>> alot of work so I'm not really looking at the wiki changes. Alot of
>> vandalized pages didn't exist before we got targeted by some automated
>> wiki vandalizer. That being said there's still alot of work to be done
>> before we can even think of getting a new release out. (Especially on my
>> part)
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> Martin DeMello wrote:
>>     
>>> Is FreeRIDE really closing its doors, or did someone vandalise the wiki?
>>>
>>> martin
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Freeride-devel mailing list
>>> Freeride-devel at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
>> Freeride-devel mailing list
>> Freeride-devel at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel
>>
>>     
> _______________________________________________
> Freeride-devel mailing list
> Freeride-devel at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel
>
>
>   

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From martindemello at gmail.com  Sun Jun 10 10:12:02 2007
From: martindemello at gmail.com (Martin DeMello)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:42:02 +0530
Subject: [FR-devel] officially dead?!
In-Reply-To: <466C062A.9010909@xs4all.nl>
References: <f93a6bcc0706100529j3046f941g9e39d86982cdb273@mail.gmail.com>
	<466C00E7.5040702@xs4all.nl>
	<f93a6bcc0706100657n964294cx939cbd40302fe01d@mail.gmail.com>
	<466C062A.9010909@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <f93a6bcc0706100712vcc4d1a7o1e4da4f0b639c792@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, I reverted it for now. Was just a bit of a shock seeing it up there.

martin

On 6/10/07, Jonathan Maasland <nochoice at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>  Hadn't noticed that. Maybe Laurent or Curt could say something about this.
>  To be honest I would've expected that an email would've been sent to either
> mailinglist if FR really were to be pronounced dead.
>
>  Besides, after a long year, I'm back to working on FR so it's not as if it
> is really really dead.
>
>  Jonathan
>
>
>  Martin DeMello wrote:
>  This is not your typical wikispam - it's a very official looking
> notice on the front page:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This is the home page for FreeRIDE, a dead IDE for the Ruby
> programming language. It is distributed under the same terms as Ruby
> itself. If this is your first visit here, please click on Preferences
> above to register so that your name can be associated with your
> changes and contributions.
>
> 2007-05-21 FreeRIDE Is Officially Dead
> We are sorry to announce that FreeRIDE is now dead. Sorry for wasting
> everyone's time.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> It set off my vandal meter, but I thought I'd check before reverting it.
>
> martin
>
> On 6/10/07, Jonathan Maasland <nochoice at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>
>  Well I know that our wiki is vandalized quite often but I wouldn't call
> FreeRIDE dead. At the moment I'm working on fixing Ripper which is quite
> alot of work so I'm not really looking at the wiki changes. Alot of
> vandalized pages didn't exist before we got targeted by some automated
> wiki vandalizer. That being said there's still alot of work to be done
> before we can even think of getting a new release out. (Especially on my
> part)
>
> Jonathan
>
> Martin DeMello wrote:
>
>
>  Is FreeRIDE really closing its doors, or did someone vandalise the wiki?
>
> martin
> _______________________________________________
> Freeride-devel mailing list
> Freeride-devel at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel
>
>
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
> Freeride-devel mailing list
> Freeride-devel at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
> Freeride-devel mailing list
> Freeride-devel at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Freeride-devel mailing list
> Freeride-devel at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel
>

From curt.hibbs at gmail.com  Sun Jun 10 22:34:23 2007
From: curt.hibbs at gmail.com (Curt Hibbs)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:34:23 -0500
Subject: [FR-devel] officially dead?!
In-Reply-To: <f93a6bcc0706100712vcc4d1a7o1e4da4f0b639c792@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f93a6bcc0706100529j3046f941g9e39d86982cdb273@mail.gmail.com>
	<466C00E7.5040702@xs4all.nl>
	<f93a6bcc0706100657n964294cx939cbd40302fe01d@mail.gmail.com>
	<466C062A.9010909@xs4all.nl>
	<f93a6bcc0706100712vcc4d1a7o1e4da4f0b639c792@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <31d15f490706101934u79fce545o38b19a53dd7d16d2@mail.gmail.com>

FreeRIDE is not dead, but I wish we could get more people interested in
working on it. I usually check for wiki spam once every week or two and
revert it. Thanks for beating me to it!

Curt


On 6/10/07, Martin DeMello <martindemello at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I reverted it for now. Was just a bit of a shock seeing it up there.
>
> martin
>
> On 6/10/07, Jonathan Maasland <nochoice at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >
> >  Hadn't noticed that. Maybe Laurent or Curt could say something about
> this.
> >  To be honest I would've expected that an email would've been sent to
> either
> > mailinglist if FR really were to be pronounced dead.
> >
> >  Besides, after a long year, I'm back to working on FR so it's not as if
> it
> > is really really dead.
> >
> >  Jonathan
> >
> >
> >  Martin DeMello wrote:
> >  This is not your typical wikispam - it's a very official looking
> > notice on the front page:
> >
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > This is the home page for FreeRIDE, a dead IDE for the Ruby
> > programming language. It is distributed under the same terms as Ruby
> > itself. If this is your first visit here, please click on Preferences
> > above to register so that your name can be associated with your
> > changes and contributions.
> >
> > 2007-05-21 FreeRIDE Is Officially Dead
> > We are sorry to announce that FreeRIDE is now dead. Sorry for wasting
> > everyone's time.
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > It set off my vandal meter, but I thought I'd check before reverting it.
> >
> > martin
> >
> > On 6/10/07, Jonathan Maasland <nochoice at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  Well I know that our wiki is vandalized quite often but I wouldn't call
> > FreeRIDE dead. At the moment I'm working on fixing Ripper which is quite
> > alot of work so I'm not really looking at the wiki changes. Alot of
> > vandalized pages didn't exist before we got targeted by some automated
> > wiki vandalizer. That being said there's still alot of work to be done
> > before we can even think of getting a new release out. (Especially on my
> > part)
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > Martin DeMello wrote:
> >
> >
> >  Is FreeRIDE really closing its doors, or did someone vandalise the
> wiki?
> >
> > martin
> > _______________________________________________
> > Freeride-devel mailing list
> > Freeride-devel at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  _______________________________________________
> > Freeride-devel mailing list
> > Freeride-devel at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel
> >
> >
> >  _______________________________________________
> > Freeride-devel mailing list
> > Freeride-devel at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Freeride-devel mailing list
> > Freeride-devel at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Freeride-devel mailing list
> Freeride-devel at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel
>
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From marcin.raczkowski at gmail.com  Mon Jun 11 07:50:59 2007
From: marcin.raczkowski at gmail.com (Marcin Raczkowski)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:50:59 +0000
Subject: [FR-devel] officially dead?!
In-Reply-To: <466C062A.9010909@xs4all.nl>
References: <f93a6bcc0706100529j3046f941g9e39d86982cdb273@mail.gmail.com>
	<466C00E7.5040702@xs4all.nl>
	<f93a6bcc0706100657n964294cx939cbd40302fe01d@mail.gmail.com>
	<466C062A.9010909@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <d895a4b90706110450g496774d9o9bbcd01ca93480f9@mail.gmail.com>

> there was e-mail sent to mailing list about it.<http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel>



project is no longer needed - it's far behind other ide's (like netbeans or
Aptana) and noone is really dedicated to work on it full time while other
ide improve daily becouse of commercial support.
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From nochoice at xs4all.nl  Mon Jun 11 08:40:02 2007
From: nochoice at xs4all.nl (Jonathan Maasland)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:40:02 +0200
Subject: [FR-devel] officially dead?!
In-Reply-To: <d895a4b90706110450g496774d9o9bbcd01ca93480f9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f93a6bcc0706100529j3046f941g9e39d86982cdb273@mail.gmail.com>	<466C00E7.5040702@xs4all.nl>	<f93a6bcc0706100657n964294cx939cbd40302fe01d@mail.gmail.com>	<466C062A.9010909@xs4all.nl>
	<d895a4b90706110450g496774d9o9bbcd01ca93480f9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <466D42A2.2000707@xs4all.nl>

I respectfully disagree, Netbeans is Java-based and (on my computer at
least) slow as hell. I haven't looked at Aptana, but then again I'm not
a webdeveloper. Other options are RubyInSteel which is only for Windows
and ArachnoRuby which isn't freeware.

FreeRIDE is free, crossplatform and fast and simple. Once we get some of
the openstanding bugs fixed and tie in a new debugger we should be right
up there with the other IDE's. The biggest drawback I can think of is
that we currently don't have AutoCompletion and won't have in the
forseeable future unless someone spends considerable time on the
subject. And we're missing RubyOnRails support, which shouldn't be alot
of work to build into FR.

Jonathan

Marcin Raczkowski wrote:
>
>     there was e-mail sent to mailing list about it.
>     <http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel>
>
Your link doesn't point anywhere, could you repost it??
>
>
> project is no longer needed - it's far behind other ide's (like
> netbeans or Aptana) and noone is really dedicated to work on it full
> time while other ide improve daily becouse of commercial support.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Freeride-devel mailing list
> Freeride-devel at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel

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From meinrad.recheis at gmail.com  Mon Jun 11 08:57:23 2007
From: meinrad.recheis at gmail.com (Meinrad Recheis)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:57:23 +0200
Subject: [FR-devel] officially dead?!
In-Reply-To: <466D42A2.2000707@xs4all.nl>
References: <f93a6bcc0706100529j3046f941g9e39d86982cdb273@mail.gmail.com>
	<466C00E7.5040702@xs4all.nl>
	<f93a6bcc0706100657n964294cx939cbd40302fe01d@mail.gmail.com>
	<466C062A.9010909@xs4all.nl>
	<d895a4b90706110450g496774d9o9bbcd01ca93480f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<466D42A2.2000707@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <43d756720706110557x5676177dpef6cfab795b5c7a5@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/11/07, Jonathan Maasland <nochoice at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>  I respectfully disagree, Netbeans is Java-based and (on my computer at
> least) slow as hell. I haven't looked at Aptana, but then again I'm not a
> webdeveloper. Other options are RubyInSteel which is only for Windows and
> ArachnoRuby which isn't freeware.

please also don't forget about RDE and Mondrian, which are both promising.

-- henon

From martindemello at gmail.com  Mon Jun 11 13:25:35 2007
From: martindemello at gmail.com (Martin DeMello)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:55:35 +0530
Subject: [FR-devel] officially dead?!
In-Reply-To: <43d756720706110557x5676177dpef6cfab795b5c7a5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f93a6bcc0706100529j3046f941g9e39d86982cdb273@mail.gmail.com>
	<466C00E7.5040702@xs4all.nl>
	<f93a6bcc0706100657n964294cx939cbd40302fe01d@mail.gmail.com>
	<466C062A.9010909@xs4all.nl>
	<d895a4b90706110450g496774d9o9bbcd01ca93480f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<466D42A2.2000707@xs4all.nl>
	<43d756720706110557x5676177dpef6cfab795b5c7a5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f93a6bcc0706111025p1b6b2fo64c8a22ec0a3bdd5@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/11/07, Meinrad Recheis <meinrad.recheis at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Jonathan Maasland <nochoice at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >
> >  I respectfully disagree, Netbeans is Java-based and (on my computer at
> > least) slow as hell. I haven't looked at Aptana, but then again I'm not a
> > webdeveloper. Other options are RubyInSteel which is only for Windows and
> > ArachnoRuby which isn't freeware.
>
> please also don't forget about RDE and Mondrian, which are both promising.

I've been wondering if FreeRide can borrow anything from Mondrian.

martin

From nochoice at xs4all.nl  Mon Jun 11 18:16:29 2007
From: nochoice at xs4all.nl (Jonathan Maasland)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 00:16:29 +0200
Subject: [FR-devel] officially dead?!
In-Reply-To: <f93a6bcc0706111025p1b6b2fo64c8a22ec0a3bdd5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f93a6bcc0706100529j3046f941g9e39d86982cdb273@mail.gmail.com>	<466C00E7.5040702@xs4all.nl>	<f93a6bcc0706100657n964294cx939cbd40302fe01d@mail.gmail.com>	<466C062A.9010909@xs4all.nl>	<d895a4b90706110450g496774d9o9bbcd01ca93480f9@mail.gmail.com>	<466D42A2.2000707@xs4all.nl>	<43d756720706110557x5676177dpef6cfab795b5c7a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<f93a6bcc0706111025p1b6b2fo64c8a22ec0a3bdd5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <466DC9BD.8000008@xs4all.nl>

To be honest that's what I was thinking of when I read that they've
implemented a debugger system using rdebug.

Don't know if the license is compatible. I believe they use the MIT
license and we're using GPL. I'm not really a license buff

Jonathan

Martin DeMello wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Meinrad Recheis <meinrad.recheis at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> On 6/11/07, Jonathan Maasland <nochoice at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>     
>>>  I respectfully disagree, Netbeans is Java-based and (on my computer at
>>> least) slow as hell. I haven't looked at Aptana, but then again I'm not a
>>> webdeveloper. Other options are RubyInSteel which is only for Windows and
>>> ArachnoRuby which isn't freeware.
>>>       
>> please also don't forget about RDE and Mondrian, which are both promising.
>>     
>
> I've been wondering if FreeRide can borrow anything from Mondrian.
>
> martin
> _______________________________________________
> Freeride-devel mailing list
> Freeride-devel at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel
>
>
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From curt.hibbs at gmail.com  Tue Jun 12 00:36:17 2007
From: curt.hibbs at gmail.com (Curt Hibbs)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:36:17 -0500
Subject: [FR-devel] officially dead?!
In-Reply-To: <466DC9BD.8000008@xs4all.nl>
References: <f93a6bcc0706100529j3046f941g9e39d86982cdb273@mail.gmail.com>
	<466C00E7.5040702@xs4all.nl>
	<f93a6bcc0706100657n964294cx939cbd40302fe01d@mail.gmail.com>
	<466C062A.9010909@xs4all.nl>
	<d895a4b90706110450g496774d9o9bbcd01ca93480f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<466D42A2.2000707@xs4all.nl>
	<43d756720706110557x5676177dpef6cfab795b5c7a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<f93a6bcc0706111025p1b6b2fo64c8a22ec0a3bdd5@mail.gmail.com>
	<466DC9BD.8000008@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <31d15f490706112136x44cff172q71a642e3df3716f8@mail.gmail.com>

We could switch to MIT.

Curt

On 6/11/07, Jonathan Maasland <nochoice at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>  To be honest that's what I was thinking of when I read that they've
> implemented a debugger system using rdebug.
>
> Don't know if the license is compatible. I believe they use the MIT
> license and we're using GPL. I'm not really a license buff
>
> Jonathan
>
> Martin DeMello wrote:
>
> On 6/11/07, Meinrad Recheis <meinrad.recheis at gmail.com> <meinrad.recheis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  On 6/11/07, Jonathan Maasland <nochoice at xs4all.nl> <nochoice at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>   I respectfully disagree, Netbeans is Java-based and (on my computer at
> least) slow as hell. I haven't looked at Aptana, but then again I'm not a
> webdeveloper. Other options are RubyInSteel which is only for Windows and
> ArachnoRuby which isn't freeware.
>
>  please also don't forget about RDE and Mondrian, which are both promising.
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>  I've been wondering if FreeRide can borrow anything from Mondrian.
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From: rob at tarasis.net (Robert McGovern)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:58:01 +0200
Subject: [FR-devel] officially dead?!
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> there was e-mail sent to mailing list about it.
>

Not that I have found in the archives so far. I can see reference to  
Gillies no longer updating FXScintilla.

> project is no longer needed - it's far behind other ide's (like  
> netbeans or Aptana) and noone is really dedicated to work on it  
> full time while other ide improve daily becouse of commercial support.

While I can't comment on the former doing no dev work whatsoever at  
the min, I can see your point with the later. However that is not a  
reason to say that the project is no longer needed. People here must  
think the project has value otherwise they wouldn't be working on it  
when they can.

Rob