From laurent at moldus.org Thu Mar 8 02:14:53 2007 From: laurent at moldus.org (Laurent Julliard) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 08:14:53 +0100 Subject: [FR-devel] [Vit-core] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <31d15f490703051843p4089603n7f636ca1160e6614@mail.gmail.com> References: <31d15f490703051843p4089603n7f636ca1160e6614@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45EFB7ED.5070001@moldus.org> Mohamed, Thanks for your interest in FreeRIDE. You are of course very welcome to use FreeRIDE as a basis for your thesis. There are however a couple of points that I'd like to draw your attention to before your start: - Generally speaking the FreeRIDE code is not for beginners as it involves a number of different techniques like a event/notification databus, a plugin architecture, the use of the FOX toolkit as a UI, etc... I'm not saying this to discourage you but rather to let you know that you may want to become familiar with Ruby first with some other simple programs. - To be honest with you I'll have very little time to devote to support you in the coming months due to some other imperatives at work. This being said if you subscribe to the frerride developers mailing list and ask questions there will always be someone to givbe you a hand. Hope this helps. Laurent Curt Hibbs wrote: > You sent this to me (Curt Hibbs) instead of Laurent, so I forwarded it > to him. > > Curt > > On 3/5/07, *moe_atta* < moe_atta at aucegypt.edu > > wrote: > > Dear Mr. Lauren Julliard, > > We a group of students who study computer science at the American > University in Cairo and we are starting our thesis. We are > considering adding Ruby on Rails and more features that can be added > to freeRide such as Dragg and Dropp icons as our thesis, and we > would like to get your help and your support . The problem is that > Ruby is not very familiar as a programming language here in our > university and in Egypt, so we think that your support will help us > a lot in accomplishing this project especially that freeRide is > written using Ruby. > > Thank you for your conern > Mohamed A. Atta > > > > *From* "Curt Hibbs" curt.hibbs at gmail.com > > *To* "moe_atta" moe_atta at aucegypt.edu > > *Cc* vit-core at rubyforge.org > ,"Laurent Julliard" > laurent at moldus.org > > *Date* Sun, 4 Mar 2007 21:41:37 -0600 > > *Subject* Re: [Vit-core] (no subject) > > > > On 3/4/07, *James Edward Gray II* < james at grayproductions.net > > wrote: > > > > On Mar 4, 2007, at 4:51 PM, shugo at ruby-lang.org > wrote: > > > We are a group of Students at the American University in > Cairo, and > > we decided to do our thesis as an IDE for RUBY on Rails. We > will be > > glad to get your support and your help to accomplish this > project. > > You have contacted the team that maintains the ruby-lang.org > web > site. I'm not sure what support/help we could provide, beyond > wishing you the best of luck (which we definitely do). > > > You might want to consider doing something with FreeRIDE, the only > open source IDE that is actually written in Ruby. It currently > supports Ruby programming in general, but does not contain specific > support for Rails. If you were to add Ruby on Rails support to > FreeRIDE as part of your thesis I'm sure that would be much > appreciated and you would receive much support from the FreeRIDE > development team. > > The FreeRIDE home page is here: > > http://freeride.rubyforge.org/ > > and you can read about its unique internal architecture (which > could, itself, be thesis material) here: > > http://freeride.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?DevDoc > > I copied Laurent Juliard (the current head of the FreeRIDE project) > in case you are interested in persuing this. If so, please email > Laurent directly. > > Good luck! > > Curt > > From laurent at moldus.org Thu Mar 8 14:53:09 2007 From: laurent at moldus.org (Laurent Julliard) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:53:09 +0100 Subject: [FR-devel] Is FreeRide still active? In-Reply-To: <45EFEB22.1000009@people.net.au> References: <45EFEB22.1000009@people.net.au> Message-ID: <45F069A5.6030009@moldus.org> Mike Durham wrote: > Hi Laurent, I just wondered what was happening with FreeRide now. Any > plans for a new release? > Cheers, Mike > Mike, There hasn't been a release of FreeRIDE for sometime although it would make sens to build one because there are a nulber of features waiting in the CVS repo. This being said I have been the only one to keep some level of activity on FreeRIDE over the past few months and right now I'm completely swamped into other things. I guess the next release will probably have to wait for April. Laurent From laurent at moldus.org Tue Mar 13 11:27:20 2007 From: laurent at moldus.org (Laurent Julliard) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:27:20 +0100 Subject: [FR-devel] [Vit-core] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45F6C2D8.5060504@moldus.org> Mohamed, RRB support has been discontinued and this is why it is deactivated in FreeRIDE. I don't know if there is any plan to restart the development on RRB as it is under my responsibility. With respect to FreeRIDE itself We will probably release something in April as there are a number of pending features and bug fixes in the CVS repository. Over the past few months I have posted a number of messages explaining where people could contribute (see the attached message). The email archive is at http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel. You may want to subscribe on the various FR mailing list at http://rubyforge.org/mail/?group_id=31 Laurent moe_atta wrote: > hi Curt, > > I looked at the FreeRide projects list on FreeRide wiki and i found > that several projects that are not assigned an owner does that mean > that there is no one working on them? Because I found that refactoring > is unassigned but i read that the guys that did RRB (Ruby Refactoring > Browser) was working on developing refactoring for FreeRide and it is > now being tested for release. > So I want to make sure is it being worked on or not? > will there be a FreeRide release soon and what are it's features? > > Best Regards, > Mohamed Atta > > > ---------- Initial Header ----------- > >>From : "Curt Hibbs" curt.hibbs at gmail.com > To : "moe_atta" moe_atta at aucegypt.edu,"Laurent Julliard" > laurent at moldus.org > Cc : > Date : Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:43:04 -0800 > Subject : Re: [Vit-core] (no subject) > >> You sent this to me (Curt Hibbs) instead of Laurent, so I forwarded > it to >> him. >> >> Curt >> >> On 3/5/07, moe_atta wrote: >>> Dear Mr. Lauren Julliard, >>> >>> We a group of students who study computer science at the American >>> University in Cairo and we are starting our thesis. We are considering >>> adding Ruby on Rails and more features that can be added to > freeRide such as >>> Dragg and Dropp icons as our thesis, and we would like to get your > help and >>> your support . The problem is that Ruby is not very familiar as a >>> programming language here in our university and in Egypt, so we > think that >>> your support will help us a lot in accomplishing this project > especially >>> that freeRide is written using Ruby. >>> >>> Thank you for your conern >>> Mohamed A. Atta >>> >>> >>> >>> *From* "Curt Hibbs" curt.hibbs at gmail.com >>> *To* "moe_atta" moe_atta at aucegypt.edu >>> *Cc* vit-core at rubyforge.org,"Laurent Julliard" laurent at moldus.org >>> *Date* Sun, 4 Mar 2007 21:41:37 -0600 >>> *Subject* Re: [Vit-core] (no subject) >>> >>> On 3/4/07, James Edward Gray II wrote: > >>>> On Mar 4, 2007, at 4:51 PM, shugo at ruby-lang.org wrote: >>>> >>>>> We are a group of Students at the American University in > Cairo, and >>>>> we decided to do our thesis as an IDE for RUBY on Rails. We > will be >>>>> glad to get your support and your help to accomplish this project. >>>> You have contacted the team that maintains the ruby-lang.org web >>>> site. I'm not sure what support/help we could provide, beyond >>>> wishing you the best of luck (which we definitely do). >>>> >>> You might want to consider doing something with FreeRIDE, the only > open >>> source IDE that is actually written in Ruby. It currently supports > Ruby >>> programming in general, but does not contain specific support for > Rails. If >>> you were to add Ruby on Rails support to FreeRIDE as part of your > thesis I'm >>> sure that would be much appreciated and you would receive much > support from >>> the FreeRIDE development team. >>> >>> The FreeRIDE home page is here: >>> >>> http://freeride.rubyforge.org/ >>> >>> and you can read about its unique internal architecture (which could, >>> itself, be thesis material) here: >>> >>> http://freeride.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?DevDoc >>> >>> I copied Laurent Juliard (the current head of the FreeRIDE project) in >>> case you are interested in persuing this. If so, please email Laurent >>> directly. >>> >>> Good luck! >>> >>> Curt >>> > -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: unknown sender Subject: no subject Date: no date Size: 5052 Url: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/freeride-devel/attachments/20070313/be9062e8/attachment.mht From curt.hibbs at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 17:29:01 2007 From: curt.hibbs at gmail.com (Curt Hibbs) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:29:01 -0500 Subject: [FR-devel] [Vit-core] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <45F6C2D8.5060504@moldus.org> References: <45F6C2D8.5060504@moldus.org> Message-ID: <31d15f490703131429l49bad708r5d1d65db4af06755@mail.gmail.com> Mohamed, The wiki pages on subprojects for FreeRIDE are out-of-date... do not rely on them. Laurent's suggestions below are the way to go. Curt On 3/13/07, Laurent Julliard wrote: > > Mohamed, > > RRB support has been discontinued and this is why it is deactivated in > FreeRIDE. I don't know if there is any plan to restart the development > on RRB as it is under my responsibility. > > With respect to FreeRIDE itself We will probably release something in > April as there are a number of pending features and bug fixes in the CVS > repository. > > Over the past few months I have posted a number of messages explaining > where people could contribute (see the attached message). The email > archive is at http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/freeride-devel. > You may want to subscribe on the various FR mailing list at > http://rubyforge.org/mail/?group_id=31 > > Laurent > > moe_atta wrote: > > hi Curt, > > > > I looked at the FreeRide projects list on FreeRide wiki and i found > > that several projects that are not assigned an owner does that mean > > that there is no one working on them? Because I found that refactoring > > is unassigned but i read that the guys that did RRB (Ruby Refactoring > > Browser) was working on developing refactoring for FreeRide and it is > > now being tested for release. > > So I want to make sure is it being worked on or not? > > will there be a FreeRide release soon and what are it's features? > > > > Best Regards, > > Mohamed Atta > > > > > > ---------- Initial Header ----------- > > > >>From : "Curt Hibbs" curt.hibbs at gmail.com > > To : "moe_atta" moe_atta at aucegypt.edu,"Laurent Julliard" > > laurent at moldus.org > > Cc : > > Date : Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:43:04 -0800 > > Subject : Re: [Vit-core] (no subject) > > > >> You sent this to me (Curt Hibbs) instead of Laurent, so I forwarded > > it to > >> him. > >> > >> Curt > >> > >> On 3/5/07, moe_atta wrote: > >>> Dear Mr. Lauren Julliard, > >>> > >>> We a group of students who study computer science at the American > >>> University in Cairo and we are starting our thesis. We are considering > >>> adding Ruby on Rails and more features that can be added to > > freeRide such as > >>> Dragg and Dropp icons as our thesis, and we would like to get your > > help and > >>> your support . The problem is that Ruby is not very familiar as a > >>> programming language here in our university and in Egypt, so we > > think that > >>> your support will help us a lot in accomplishing this project > > especially > >>> that freeRide is written using Ruby. > >>> > >>> Thank you for your conern > >>> Mohamed A. Atta > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *From* "Curt Hibbs" curt.hibbs at gmail.com > >>> *To* "moe_atta" moe_atta at aucegypt.edu > >>> *Cc* vit-core at rubyforge.org,"Laurent Julliard" laurent at moldus.org > >>> *Date* Sun, 4 Mar 2007 21:41:37 -0600 > >>> *Subject* Re: [Vit-core] (no subject) > >>> > >>> On 3/4/07, James Edward Gray II wrote: > > >>>> On Mar 4, 2007, at 4:51 PM, shugo at ruby-lang.org wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> We are a group of Students at the American University in > > Cairo, and > >>>>> we decided to do our thesis as an IDE for RUBY on Rails. We > > will be > >>>>> glad to get your support and your help to accomplish this project. > >>>> You have contacted the team that maintains the ruby-lang.org web > >>>> site. I'm not sure what support/help we could provide, beyond > >>>> wishing you the best of luck (which we definitely do). > >>>> > >>> You might want to consider doing something with FreeRIDE, the only > > open > >>> source IDE that is actually written in Ruby. It currently supports > > Ruby > >>> programming in general, but does not contain specific support for > > Rails. If > >>> you were to add Ruby on Rails support to FreeRIDE as part of your > > thesis I'm > >>> sure that would be much appreciated and you would receive much > > support from > >>> the FreeRIDE development team. > >>> > >>> The FreeRIDE home page is here: > >>> > >>> http://freeride.rubyforge.org/ > >>> > >>> and you can read about its unique internal architecture (which could, > >>> itself, be thesis material) here: > >>> > >>> http://freeride.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?DevDoc > >>> > >>> I copied Laurent Juliard (the current head of the FreeRIDE project) in > >>> case you are interested in persuing this. If so, please email Laurent > >>> directly. > >>> > >>> Good luck! > >>> > >>> Curt > >>> > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: > To: > Date: > Subject: > >From laurent Mon Jan 8 10:26:00 2007 > Return-Path: > X-Original-To: laurent at moldus.org > Delivered-To: laurent at moldus.org > Received: by voldemort.moldus.org (Postfix, from userid 107) > id 81CA164408; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:26:00 +0100 (CET) > Received: from rubyforge.org (rubyforge.org [205.234.109.18]) > by voldemort.moldus.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22EAF63FC0 > for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:25:57 +0100 (CET) > Received: from rubyforge.org (rubyforge.org [127.0.0.1]) > by rubyforge.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B219F5242012; > Mon, 8 Jan 2007 04:25:41 -0500 (EST) > X-Original-To: freeride-devel at rubyforge.org > Delivered-To: freeride-devel at rubyforge.org > X-Greylist: delayed 2420 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at rubyforge.org; > Mon, 08 Jan 2007 04:21:01 EST > Received: from ebene.inrialpes.fr (ebene.inrialpes.fr [194.199.18.70]) > by rubyforge.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000125241E9D > for ; > Mon, 8 Jan 2007 04:21:00 -0500 (EST) > Received: from [192.168.1.2] (minalogic.extra.cea.fr [194.167.244.66]) > by ebene.inrialpes.fr (8.13.6/8.13.0) with ESMTP id > l088eMp7013157; > Mon, 8 Jan 2007 09:40:23 +0100 (MET) > Message-ID: <45A20377.7000708 at moldus.org> > Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 09:40:23 +0100 > From: Laurent Julliard > Organization: A la maison / At home > User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061206) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: marcin.raczkowski at gmail.com > X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 > (ebene.inrialpes.fr [194.199.18.70]); > Mon, 08 Jan 2007 09:40:24 +0100 (MET) > X-mx2-serv-inrialpes-fr-MailScanner-Information: Please contact > postmaster at inrialpes.fr for more information > X-mx2-serv-inrialpes-fr-MailScanner: Found to be clean > X-mx2-serv-inrialpes-fr-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, > SpamAssassin (score=0.002, requis 5, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, > MIME_HTML_ONLY 0.00) > X-mx2-serv-inrialpes-fr-MailScanner-From: laurent at moldus.org > X-Spam-Status: No > Cc: FreeRIDE Developers > Subject: [FR-devel] Your contribution to FreeRIDE > X-BeenThere: freeride-devel at rubyforge.org > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 > Precedence: list > Reply-To: freeride-devel at rubyforge.org > List-Id: > List-Unsubscribe: , > > List-Archive: > List-Post: > List-Help: > List-Subscribe: , > > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2079260643==" > Sender: freeride-devel-bounces at rubyforge.org > Errors-To: freeride-devel-bounces at rubyforge.org > > --===============2079260643== > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > > > Marcin,
>
> I got an email from Curt Hibbs saying that you are interested in > joining the FreeRIDE development team. What I suggest you do is to > first subscribe to the FreeRIDE mailing lists. You can do that from the > following page:
> > https://rubyforge.org/mail/?group_id=31
>
> I would also sugest that you introduce your self on the devel mailing > list.
>
> Then with respect to where you can contribute i think we have a lot to > do in our plate today.  below is a couple of suggestions:
>
> - the current version in the CVS repo uses Fox 1.4 and FXRuby 1.4. > Ideally we should move to Fox 1.6 and FXRuby > 1.6 as well as FXScintilla 1.71
> - FreeRIDE is notably flakier on Windows than on Linux so some > debugging and bug fixing on Windows is more than welcome. If you are a > Windows developer this is a nice starting point
> - The debugger doesn't run very well on Windows. I think it would > require some rewrite (it currently uses dRuby which is a nice solution > on paper but again it suffers some weaknesses on Windows)
> - An integrated documentation plugin (we just have a couple of Web > pages for now..)
>
> I would suggest that you first send us your contribution in the form of > patches that i will commit in the CVS repo.
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> Laurent
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