From eknapp at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 22:19:02 2005 From: eknapp at gmail.com (Eric Knapp) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 21:19:02 -0600 Subject: [Instiki] Instiki newbie with problems Message-ID: <3531474a0512041919u427312b2sc6ecde5ff49d3097@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I'm trying out Instiki and I am quite excited about it. However, I'm having several problems with it and since instiki.org appears to be down with a 502 error I thought I'd ask this list. I installed instiki-0.10.2.tgz on OS X 10.4 and I'm running it from the command line. I was happily creating pages and then I started getting a page that appears to be corrupted in Firefox 1.5. The bottom of the page is in pink and has strike through on it. In Safari the footer just doesn't appear. I then tried to bounce instiki and now it won't start up. I'm really dead in the water and I'm wondering what I have done wrong. Thanks for any help. -Eric From steve.odom at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 07:07:41 2005 From: steve.odom at gmail.com (Steve Odom) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 06:07:41 -0600 Subject: [Instiki] Stylesheet not being found Message-ID: Hi, I just installed i2 at this location: http://wiki.smarkets.net/wiki. The wiki functionality is working - I can create and edit pages; links are autocreated, etc. However, the instiki.css stylesheet is not being found. It looks for the stylesheet here: http://wiki.smarkets.net/stylesheets/instiki.css - the default location, but I get a 404. Does anyone have an idea on what is causing the problem? Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/instiki-users/attachments/20051205/ca198cbc/attachment.htm From derek at derekgulbranson.com Tue Dec 6 15:55:55 2005 From: derek at derekgulbranson.com (Derek Gulbranson) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:55:55 -0800 Subject: [Instiki] Stylesheet not being found In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0847E9F6-F3CE-442B-A63A-D02E9EEF6844@derekgulbranson.com> try looking in public/stylesheets/ and make sure style.css is in there. On Dec 5, 2005, at 4:07 AM, Steve Odom wrote: > However, the instiki.css stylesheet is not being found. It looks > for the stylesheet here: > http://wiki.smarkets.net/stylesheets/instiki.css - the default > location, but I get a 404. > > Does anyone have an idea on what is causing the problem? > > Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/instiki-users/attachments/20051206/db2c4b87/attachment-0001.htm From derek at derekgulbranson.com Tue Dec 6 16:00:36 2005 From: derek at derekgulbranson.com (Derek Gulbranson) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 13:00:36 -0800 Subject: [Instiki] Instiki newbie with problems In-Reply-To: <3531474a0512041919u427312b2sc6ecde5ff49d3097@mail.gmail.com> References: <3531474a0512041919u427312b2sc6ecde5ff49d3097@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Dec 4, 2005, at 7:19 PM, Eric Knapp wrote: > I installed instiki-0.10.2.tgz on OS X 10.4 and I'm running it from > the command line. I was happily creating pages and then I started > getting a page that appears to be corrupted in Firefox 1.5. The bottom > of the page is in pink and has strike through on it. In Safari the > footer just doesn't appear. I've on occasion had similar problems when inserting html. Instiki wraps the text of the previous revisions in span tags (i think, or divs) that are hidden until you click the "see changes" link. Sometimes when inserting html, those tags wrapped around my html causes malformed html. usually for me it just ends up hiding the command bar on the bottom. > I then tried to bounce instiki and now it won't start up. what happens? the errors would be helpful. -derek From derek at derekgulbranson.com Tue Dec 6 16:01:12 2005 From: derek at derekgulbranson.com (Derek Gulbranson) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 13:01:12 -0800 Subject: [Instiki] Stylesheet not being found In-Reply-To: <0847E9F6-F3CE-442B-A63A-D02E9EEF6844@derekgulbranson.com> References: <0847E9F6-F3CE-442B-A63A-D02E9EEF6844@derekgulbranson.com> Message-ID: <2E55BE0F-6C56-4608-BAEF-8B4A3B437EAF@derekgulbranson.com> err, instiki.css i mean. On Dec 6, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Derek Gulbranson wrote: > try looking in public/stylesheets/ and make sure style.css is in > there. > > On Dec 5, 2005, at 4:07 AM, Steve Odom wrote: > >> However, the instiki.css stylesheet is not being found. It looks >> for the stylesheet here: >> http://wiki.smarkets.net/stylesheets/instiki.css - the default >> location, but I get a 404. >> >> Does anyone have an idea on what is causing the problem? >> >> Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Instiki-users mailing list > Instiki-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/instiki-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/instiki-users/attachments/20051206/4809a6a4/attachment.htm From chris at idlelion.net Tue Dec 6 16:02:06 2005 From: chris at idlelion.net (Chris Schumann) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 15:02:06 -0600 Subject: [Instiki] Instiki, Rails, Apache, etc. In-Reply-To: <436AECB4.8050103@verk.info> References: <78870765-CBA9-46CC-986B-9E37A761529F@loudthinking.com> <1131033684.13408.46.camel@bgpc.dymaxion.ca> <436AE2B5.70408@verk.info> <3ff47be90511032044r4601f30ek69892878650cb5c8@mail.gmail.com> <436AECB4.8050103@verk.info> Message-ID: <4395FC4E.7090107@idlelion.net> Hi all, I've had Instiki running and I want to get it running again on a new machine... but I have a few questions I hope you can help with. - Does Instiki really need its own web server? I've already got Apache running and would like to avoid WEBrick if possible. I guess a port of Instiki to some kind of Ruby layer for Apache would be required. Yay. - What's the best way to run several Instiki's on the same machine? - If I want to have several Rails applications running, what's the best way to install Instiki? (I'm guessing just install the gem package, but want to be sure.) Many thanks, Chris From steve.odom at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 16:21:47 2005 From: steve.odom at gmail.com (Steve Odom) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 15:21:47 -0600 Subject: [Instiki] Stylesheet not being found Message-ID: Yes, the instiki.css file is located in public/stylesheets/. That is what it perplexing me. The file there, but there seems to be a routing issue where rails isn't finding that directory. Steve > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:55:55 -0800 > From: Derek Gulbranson > Subject: Re: [Instiki] Stylesheet not being found > To: Instiki-users > Message-ID: <0847E9F6-F3CE-442B-A63A-D02E9EEF6844 at derekgulbranson.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > try looking in public/stylesheets/ and make sure style.css is in there. > > On Dec 5, 2005, at 4:07 AM, Steve Odom wrote: > > > However, the instiki.css stylesheet is not being found. It looks > > for the stylesheet here: > > http://wiki.smarkets.net/stylesheets/instiki.css - the default > > location, but I get a 404. > > > > Does anyone have an idea on what is causing the problem? > > > > Steve > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/instiki-users/attachments/20051206/22ad4bc4/attachment.htm From assaph at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 17:00:50 2005 From: assaph at gmail.com (Assaph Mehr) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:00:50 +1100 Subject: [Instiki] Instiki, Rails, Apache, etc. In-Reply-To: <4395FC4E.7090107@idlelion.net> References: <78870765-CBA9-46CC-986B-9E37A761529F@loudthinking.com> <1131033684.13408.46.camel@bgpc.dymaxion.ca> <436AE2B5.70408@verk.info> <3ff47be90511032044r4601f30ek69892878650cb5c8@mail.gmail.com> <436AECB4.8050103@verk.info> <4395FC4E.7090107@idlelion.net> Message-ID: <3ff47be90512061400l6db813f9v7f91d27d4c710a4f@mail.gmail.com> Hi Chris, > - Does Instiki really need its own web server? I've already got Apache > running and would like to avoid WEBrick if possible. I guess a port of > Instiki to some kind of Ruby layer for Apache would be required. Yay. You can use apache - the instructions are on instiki.org, which is down at the moment (maybe try google cache until alexey kicks the server) > - What's the best way to run several Instiki's on the same machine? Two options: 1) Multiple webs: go to the "edit web" from the home page, and near the bottom there is a link to create another web. You can then access them as, e.g.: http://localhost:2500/myfirstweb/ and http://localhost:2500/mysecondweb/ 2) Multiple instiki processes, each bound to a different port: use the --port commandline parameter. You will access them as, e.g.: http://localhost:2500/myfirstweb/ and http://localhost:2501/mysecondweb/ > - If I want to have several Rails applications running, what's the best > way to install Instiki? (I'm guessing just install the gem package, but > want to be sure.) Gems are usually the prefered way.... at least until Alexey packages Instiki-AR (now on the mainline). If you want to run several Rails apps on one server (including instiki), all with different databases I assume, you should take a look at the RoR wiki (e.g. http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/HowtoUseSymLinksToGraftRailsOntoYourWebsite). I hope you know your apache magic well, because it's wayy over my knowhow. Cheers, Assaph From chris at idlelion.net Tue Dec 6 18:26:48 2005 From: chris at idlelion.net (Chris Schumann) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:26:48 -0600 Subject: [Instiki] Instiki, Rails, Apache, etc. In-Reply-To: <3ff47be90512061400l6db813f9v7f91d27d4c710a4f@mail.gmail.com> References: <78870765-CBA9-46CC-986B-9E37A761529F@loudthinking.com> <1131033684.13408.46.camel@bgpc.dymaxion.ca> <436AE2B5.70408@verk.info> <3ff47be90511032044r4601f30ek69892878650cb5c8@mail.gmail.com> <436AECB4.8050103@verk.info> <4395FC4E.7090107@idlelion.net> <3ff47be90512061400l6db813f9v7f91d27d4c710a4f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43961E38.6060704@idlelion.net> Assaph Mehr wrote: > Hi Chris, Hello Assaph! Thanks for the quick reply. >> - Does Instiki really need its own web server? I've already got Apache >> running and would like to avoid WEBrick if possible. I guess a port of >> Instiki to some kind of Ruby layer for Apache would be required. Yay. > > You can use apache - the instructions are on instiki.org, which is > down at the moment > (maybe try google cache until alexey kicks the server) Looking at the cache, and from my memory, from these instructions, apache acts as a proxy for WEBrick. I would like to avoid having two web servers running on my meager server, and apache has to stay. I'd like to better understand why Instiki uses WEBrick, how it uses its web server, and how it might be ported to apache. >> - What's the best way to run several Instiki's on the same machine? > > Two options: > 1) Multiple webs: go to the "edit web" from the home page, and near > the bottom there is a link to create another web. You can then access > them as, e.g.: http://localhost:2500/myfirstweb/ and > http://localhost:2500/mysecondweb/ > > 2) Multiple instiki processes, each bound to a different port: use the > --port commandline parameter. You will access them as, e.g.: > http://localhost:2500/myfirstweb/ and http://localhost:2501/mysecondweb/ These are great tips. Thanks. Unfortunately, it looks like my workplace recently blocked access to 2500, so I'll have to dig into the httpd.conf and mod_rewrite voodoo, but that's OK. >> - If I want to have several Rails applications running, what's the best >> way to install Instiki? (I'm guessing just install the gem package, but >> want to be sure.) > > Gems are usually the prefered way.... at least until Alexey packages > Instiki-AR (now on the mainline). If you want to run several Rails > apps on one server (including instiki), all with different databases I > assume, you should take a look at the RoR wiki (e.g. > http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/HowtoUseSymLinksToGraftRailsOntoYourWebsite). > I hope you know your apache magic well, because it's wayy over my > knowhow. That's all very good to know. I've done some apache voodoo with good outcomes so far. I'm also planning on developing a new rails application, so this could be a lot of fun! Chris From assaph at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 20:08:29 2005 From: assaph at gmail.com (Assaph Mehr) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 12:08:29 +1100 Subject: [Instiki] Instiki, Rails, Apache, etc. In-Reply-To: <43961E38.6060704@idlelion.net> References: <78870765-CBA9-46CC-986B-9E37A761529F@loudthinking.com> <1131033684.13408.46.camel@bgpc.dymaxion.ca> <436AE2B5.70408@verk.info> <3ff47be90511032044r4601f30ek69892878650cb5c8@mail.gmail.com> <436AECB4.8050103@verk.info> <4395FC4E.7090107@idlelion.net> <3ff47be90512061400l6db813f9v7f91d27d4c710a4f@mail.gmail.com> <43961E38.6060704@idlelion.net> Message-ID: <3ff47be90512061708k2de733f9n10ab0fbd4de9cc1e@mail.gmail.com> Hi Chris, > Looking at the cache, and from my memory, from these instructions, > apache acts as a proxy for WEBrick. I would like to avoid having two web > servers running on my meager server, and apache has to stay. > > I'd like to better understand why Instiki uses WEBrick, how it uses its > web server, and how it might be ported to apache. I guess that might be easier when the next version of Instiki comes out, as it will be a more "traditional" rails app. I believe it should be much easier to setup over apache then. Instiki uses WEBrick as a zero-install, zero-config web server - it's there in he ruby stdlib. The assumption is that Instiki is aimed at the "low-end" when for most people it's enough. > > I hope you know your apache magic well, because it's wayy over my > > knowhow. > > That's all very good to know. I've done some apache voodoo with good > outcomes so far. I'm also planning on developing a new rails > application, so this could be a lot of fun! Feel free to update the wiki :-) Cheers, Assaph From stratinfo at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 21:34:28 2005 From: stratinfo at gmail.com (Bill Berry) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:34:28 -0800 Subject: [Instiki] Instiki, Rails, Apache, etc. In-Reply-To: <3ff47be90512061708k2de733f9n10ab0fbd4de9cc1e@mail.gmail.com> References: <78870765-CBA9-46CC-986B-9E37A761529F@loudthinking.com> <1131033684.13408.46.camel@bgpc.dymaxion.ca> <436AE2B5.70408@verk.info> <3ff47be90511032044r4601f30ek69892878650cb5c8@mail.gmail.com> <436AECB4.8050103@verk.info> <4395FC4E.7090107@idlelion.net> <3ff47be90512061400l6db813f9v7f91d27d4c710a4f@mail.gmail.com> <43961E38.6060704@idlelion.net> <3ff47be90512061708k2de733f9n10ab0fbd4de9cc1e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The Instiki-AR version can be installed to run with Apache as the server. I documented my successful install at http://stratventures.com/wiki/site5install/ On 12/6/05, Assaph Mehr wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > > > Looking at the cache, and from my memory, from these instructions, > > apache acts as a proxy for WEBrick. I would like to avoid having two web > > servers running on my meager server, and apache has to stay. > > > > I'd like to better understand why Instiki uses WEBrick, how it uses its > > web server, and how it might be ported to apache. > > I guess that might be easier when the next version of Instiki comes > out, as it will be a more "traditional" rails app. I believe it should > be much easier to setup over apache then. > > Instiki uses WEBrick as a zero-install, zero-config web server - it's > there in he ruby stdlib. The assumption is that Instiki is aimed at > the "low-end" when for most people it's enough. > > > > > I hope you know your apache magic well, because it's wayy over my > > > knowhow. > > > > That's all very good to know. I've done some apache voodoo with good > > outcomes so far. I'm also planning on developing a new rails > > application, so this could be a lot of fun! > > Feel free to update the wiki :-) > > Cheers, > Assaph > > _______________________________________________ > Instiki-users mailing list > Instiki-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/instiki-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/instiki-users/attachments/20051207/c04cb6a5/attachment-0001.htm From toddzmail at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 11:59:27 2005 From: toddzmail at gmail.com (Todd Zimmerman) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:59:27 -0600 Subject: [Instiki] no HTML headers in Textile Message-ID: <1afe98470512120859t178f146fw5b30ad9e64b5a890@mail.gmail.com> instiki.org has been down with a 502 error for the last few days, so I joined the list in order to ask: What am I doing wrong that I can't get an H1 heading to work? This is a current version of Instiki with Textile enabled and no HTML suppression. Most other formatting seems to work fine. I've tried "H1.Heading" and "H1. Heading" (notice the blank space) but each is rendered verbatim as plain text. Thanks for any clue... -ToddZ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/instiki-users/attachments/20051212/31124463/attachment.htm From bart.masschelein at skynet.be Mon Dec 12 13:37:35 2005 From: bart.masschelein at skynet.be (Bart Masschelein) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:37:35 +0100 Subject: [Instiki] no HTML headers in Textile In-Reply-To: <1afe98470512120859t178f146fw5b30ad9e64b5a890@mail.gmail.com> References: <1afe98470512120859t178f146fw5b30ad9e64b5a890@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <439DC36F.30601@skynet.be> Shouldn't it be h1. sth (notice the small letter AND the space)? Todd Zimmerman wrote: > instiki.org has been down with a 502 error for > the last few days, so I joined the list in order to ask: > > What am I doing wrong that I can't get an H1 heading to work? This is > a current version of Instiki with Textile enabled and no HTML > suppression. Most other formatting seems to work fine. > > I've tried "H1.Heading" and "H1. Heading" (notice the blank space) but > each is rendered verbatim as plain text. > > Thanks for any clue... > -ToddZ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Instiki-users mailing list >Instiki-users at rubyforge.org >http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/instiki-users > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 9/12/2005 > > From hypsometry at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 14:20:42 2005 From: hypsometry at gmail.com (Chris Boone) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:20:42 -0500 Subject: [Instiki] no HTML headers in Textile In-Reply-To: <439DC36F.30601@skynet.be> References: <1afe98470512120859t178f146fw5b30ad9e64b5a890@mail.gmail.com> <439DC36F.30601@skynet.be> Message-ID: <525eb1d90512121120l2e7df980j25864c53256f0277@mail.gmail.com> On 12/12/05, Bart Masschelein wrote:> Shouldn't it be h1. sth (notice the small letter AND the space)? Yep, definitely should. Textile's great, but picky. Gotta get the details right. --Chris Boone http://hypsometry.com/ : website edificationhttp://uvlist.org/ : free classifieds for the Upper Valley From toddzmail at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 15:10:12 2005 From: toddzmail at gmail.com (Todd Zimmerman) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:10:12 -0600 Subject: [Instiki] no HTML headers in Textile In-Reply-To: <525eb1d90512121120l2e7df980j25864c53256f0277@mail.gmail.com> References: <1afe98470512120859t178f146fw5b30ad9e64b5a890@mail.gmail.com> <439DC36F.30601@skynet.be> <525eb1d90512121120l2e7df980j25864c53256f0277@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1afe98470512121210h3e09ef3dq259a084ddf817a77@mail.gmail.com> Aha -- indeed that does make the difference! Thanks very much Bart & Chris. -ToddZ On 12/12/05, Chris Boone wrote: > > On 12/12/05, Bart Masschelein wrote:> > Shouldn't it be h1. sth (notice the small letter AND the space)? > Yep, definitely should. Textile's great, but picky. Gotta get the details > right. > --Chris Boone > http://hypsometry.com/ : website edificationhttp://uvlist.org/ : free > classifieds for the Upper Valley > _______________________________________________ > Instiki-users mailing list > Instiki-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/instiki-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/instiki-users/attachments/20051212/da78491d/attachment.htm From maurizio at gmail.com Mon Dec 19 08:42:23 2005 From: maurizio at gmail.com (Maurizio Balestrieri) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:42:23 +0100 Subject: [Instiki] is instiki alive? Message-ID: <1c7fecb90512190542l68b9994fh5a2bb313f0cf2e2f@mail.gmail.com> hello. is the instiki project still alive? i've visited the web site, which is down, and noticed almost no activity is going on for the development mailing list. please advise, since i'd like to use it in a production environment and need to know if its a viable solution. btw, are there other rails based wiki engines which could be evaluated? many thanks! From eknapp at gmail.com Mon Dec 19 09:07:56 2005 From: eknapp at gmail.com (Eric Knapp) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 08:07:56 -0600 Subject: [Instiki] is instiki alive? In-Reply-To: <1c7fecb90512190542l68b9994fh5a2bb313f0cf2e2f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c7fecb90512190542l68b9994fh5a2bb313f0cf2e2f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3531474a0512190607o2eecb134lbec334caac49f71f@mail.gmail.com> I also am looking for a Rails based wiki and this one: http://www.soks.org/view/HomePage is under active development and is a little farther along than Instiki. I really like Instiki but it is missing some crucial features that make it unusable for me. I look forward to when it becomes more viable. -Eric On 12/19/05, Maurizio Balestrieri wrote: > > hello. is the instiki project still alive? i've visited the web site, > which is down, and noticed almost no activity is going on for the > development mailing list. please advise, since i'd like to use it in a > production environment and need to know if its a viable solution. btw, > are there other rails based wiki engines which could be evaluated? > many thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Instiki-users mailing list > Instiki-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/instiki-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/instiki-users/attachments/20051219/b986474e/attachment.htm From ez at brainspl.at Mon Dec 19 11:53:04 2005 From: ez at brainspl.at (Ezra Zygmuntowicz) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 08:53:04 -0800 Subject: [Instiki] is instiki alive? In-Reply-To: <3531474a0512190607o2eecb134lbec334caac49f71f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c7fecb90512190542l68b9994fh5a2bb313f0cf2e2f@mail.gmail.com> <3531474a0512190607o2eecb134lbec334caac49f71f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10E0120B-6CF7-4928-801C-C7EAA808158E@brainspl.at> You could check out i2 which is what runs the rails wiki right now. You have to check it out from svn from dev.rubyonrails.org. It's a full blown rails app wiki. Its not a super full featured wiki but it runs very nicely. Cheers- -Ezra On Dec 19, 2005, at 6:07 AM, Eric Knapp wrote: > I also am looking for a Rails based wiki and this one: http:// > www.soks.org/view/HomePage is under active development and is a > little farther along than Instiki. I really like Instiki but it is > missing some crucial features that make it unusable for me. I look > forward to when it becomes more viable. > > -Eric > > On 12/19/05, Maurizio Balestrieri wrote: > hello. is the instiki project still alive? i've visited the web site, > which is down, and noticed almost no activity is going on for the > development mailing list. please advise, since i'd like to use it in a > production environment and need to know if its a viable solution. btw, > are there other rails based wiki engines which could be evaluated? > many thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Instiki-users mailing list > Instiki-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/instiki-users > > _______________________________________________ > Instiki-users mailing list > Instiki-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/instiki-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/instiki-users/attachments/20051219/eb48174b/attachment.htm From deasach at gmail.com Mon Dec 19 12:56:36 2005 From: deasach at gmail.com (Alan Macdougall) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 06:56:36 +1300 Subject: [Instiki] is instiki alive? In-Reply-To: <10E0120B-6CF7-4928-801C-C7EAA808158E@brainspl.at> References: <1c7fecb90512190542l68b9994fh5a2bb313f0cf2e2f@mail.gmail.com> <3531474a0512190607o2eecb134lbec334caac49f71f@mail.gmail.com> <10E0120B-6CF7-4928-801C-C7EAA808158E@brainspl.at> Message-ID: <9323cd640512190956j1aba268aha301c9d716b97c7d@mail.gmail.com> On 12/20/05, Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote: > You could check out i2 which is what runs the rails wiki right now. You have > to check it out from svn from dev.rubyonrails.org. It's a full blown rails > app wiki. Its not a super full featured wiki but it runs very nicely. But don't forget instiki-ar, which is where the development of Instiki is currently headed, You can download a perfectly usable (has the current features of Instiki) beta here: http://rubyforge.org/projects/instiki/ And this list contains installation instructions enough to get it going. If you crave newer revs you can use svn to get them - once again, search these list archives for details. later Alan -- B?onn caora dhubh ar an tr?ad is gile. (There are black sheep in the brightest flocks.) From maurizio at gmail.com Mon Dec 19 14:42:07 2005 From: maurizio at gmail.com (Maurizio Balestrieri) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:42:07 +0100 Subject: [Instiki] is instiki alive? In-Reply-To: <9323cd640512190956j1aba268aha301c9d716b97c7d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c7fecb90512190542l68b9994fh5a2bb313f0cf2e2f@mail.gmail.com> <3531474a0512190607o2eecb134lbec334caac49f71f@mail.gmail.com> <10E0120B-6CF7-4928-801C-C7EAA808158E@brainspl.at> <9323cd640512190956j1aba268aha301c9d716b97c7d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1c7fecb90512191142v57605a11v539a36db84994371@mail.gmail.com> thank you all for the advise. i've just installed soks to give it a try and identified the i2 branch in the svn repository. i'll try it out along with instiki-ar. at the time being though i've an issue in exporting as markup the content of my existing instiki (0.10.2). i'm under windows and what i get is always an empty archive (zip). :( any guidance about how to solve this one? thanks! On 12/19/05, Alan Macdougall wrote: > On 12/20/05, Ezra Zygmuntowicz wrote: > > You could check out i2 which is what runs the rails wiki right now. You have > > to check it out from svn from dev.rubyonrails.org. It's a full blown rails > > app wiki. Its not a super full featured wiki but it runs very nicely. > > But don't forget instiki-ar, which is where the development of Instiki > is currently headed, You can download a perfectly usable (has the > current features of Instiki) beta here: > > http://rubyforge.org/projects/instiki/ > > And this list contains installation instructions enough to get it going. > > If you crave newer revs you can use svn to get them - once again, > search these list archives for details. > > later > > Alan > > > -- > B?onn caora dhubh ar an tr?ad is gile. > (There are black sheep in the brightest flocks.) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Instiki-users mailing list > Instiki-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/instiki-users > From assaph at gmail.com Mon Dec 19 16:16:30 2005 From: assaph at gmail.com (Assaph Mehr) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 08:16:30 +1100 Subject: [Instiki] is instiki alive? In-Reply-To: <1c7fecb90512191142v57605a11v539a36db84994371@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c7fecb90512190542l68b9994fh5a2bb313f0cf2e2f@mail.gmail.com> <3531474a0512190607o2eecb134lbec334caac49f71f@mail.gmail.com> <10E0120B-6CF7-4928-801C-C7EAA808158E@brainspl.at> <9323cd640512190956j1aba268aha301c9d716b97c7d@mail.gmail.com> <1c7fecb90512191142v57605a11v539a36db84994371@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3ff47be90512191316t73fa8a4aq81ba755ab1169ac0@mail.gmail.com> Hi Maurizio, > i've just installed soks to give it a try and identified the i2 branch > in the svn repository. i'll try it out along with instiki-ar. There are a number of non-rails wikis, some of whom have been around for a while. Ruwiki and hiki come to mind. Take a look at http://raa.ruby-lang.org/search.rhtml?search=wiki. Personally I write my own wiki software :-). Depemnding of what you need the wiki for, take a look at Pimki (http://pimki.rubyforge.org). It used to be based on Instiki, but is now being rewritten as a regular rails application with KirbyBase as the backend. > at the time being though i've an issue in exporting as markup the > content of my existing instiki (0.10.2). i'm under windows and what i > get is always an empty archive (zip). :( > any guidance about how to solve this one? Untested: Try downgrading to Instiki 10.1 (back up your storage directory first!). If that doesn't help, there's a script in svn that can allow you to muck about via irb with the storage. Sould be easy to export things manually if it comes to that. HTH, Assaph From mcix at gmx.net Tue Dec 20 07:40:22 2005 From: mcix at gmx.net (Mauro Cicio) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:40:22 +0100 Subject: [Instiki] is instiki alive? Message-ID: <20051220134022.496de3c1@localhost.localdomain> I sent this yesterday, but it got lost. I try again. Not as useful as yesterday, still... --- Hello, Instiki is alive. Actually Instiki2 is under construction. Depending on what you are looking for, I can recommend pimki and soks (no "c"). They are both based on Rails, Pimki is actually closely based on Instiki. Pimki (pimki.rubyforge.org) is an excellent Personal Information Manager. While it is a very good project, it could be not the best choice if you expect to have a lot of contributors to your wiki. soks (soks.rubyforge.org) is, compared to Pimki, more on the Content Management System direction. If you look for a full fledged CMS, the best product around, to my knowledge, is MuraveyWeb (well documented. try: muravey.net/doc/index.html ) For CMSes on Rails drop a glance to http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/Ruby+on+Rails+based+CMS Ciao, Mauro On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:42:23 +0100 Maurizio Balestrieri wrote: > hello. is the instiki project still alive? i've visited the web site, > which is down, and noticed almost no activity is going on for the > development mailing list. please advise, since i'd like to use it in a > production environment and need to know if its a viable solution. btw, > are there other rails based wiki engines which could be evaluated? > many thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Instiki-users mailing list > Instiki-users at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/instiki-users > From oscar.petersen at mac.com Thu Dec 22 11:49:13 2005 From: oscar.petersen at mac.com (Oscar Petersen) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 17:49:13 +0100 Subject: [Instiki] How does instiki.org accomplish its URLs? Message-ID: <15730045.1135270153177.JavaMail.oscar.petersen@mac.com> Upon doing some research I understand that this is a matter of editing routes.rb - but what changes do I need to make in order to conceal the web name? Many thanks From assaph at gmail.com Thu Dec 22 18:18:37 2005 From: assaph at gmail.com (Assaph Mehr) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:18:37 +1100 Subject: [Instiki] How does instiki.org accomplish its URLs? In-Reply-To: <15730045.1135270153177.JavaMail.oscar.petersen@mac.com> References: <15730045.1135270153177.JavaMail.oscar.petersen@mac.com> Message-ID: <3ff47be90512221518kce60817n62c0bbcd988b910a@mail.gmail.com> Hi Oscar, > Upon doing some research I understand that this is a matter of editing routes.rb - > but what changes do I need to make in order to conceal the web name? This is untested, but it should work if you have one web only. Wherever there is a reference to :web in the map, just remove it and add a parameter with the web address. E.g. if you have one web called 'oscar' then change: connect_to_web map, ':web/:action', :controller => 'wiki' to connect_to_web map, ':action', :controller => 'wiki', :web => 'oscar' in all relevant places. I think instiki.org actually does it differently - i think it has an apache server in front that does the forwading internally. There should be notes on how to do this in the wiki. HTH, Assaph From mcix at gmx.net Fri Dec 23 02:18:31 2005 From: mcix at gmx.net (Mauro Cicio) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 08:18:31 +0100 Subject: [Instiki] Instiki as "plugin"? Message-ID: <20051223081831.33d55017@localhost.localdomain> hello. i would like to have part of my personal wesite to be a wiki. i am trying to understand which one is the "best practice" to achieve that. at the moment i have hacked instiki a little so that i can use it from a different ROOT - routing delegated to apache - and still have the instiki writing pages under my rails based website ROOT. i am pretty sure that there is something better than that. any suggestion? main problem: instiki has a pretty crowded application.rb: i think it is not a brilliant idea to mix it with my site one. how would you keep the separation between the two? thanks for your attention! mauro cicio From bart.masschelein at skynet.be Fri Dec 23 09:03:21 2005 From: bart.masschelein at skynet.be (Bart Masschelein) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:03:21 +0100 Subject: [Instiki] Instiki as "plugin"? In-Reply-To: <20051223081831.33d55017@localhost.localdomain> References: <20051223081831.33d55017@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <43AC03A9.7040109@skynet.be> Hello, I have the same intention, having a wiki, in this case Instiki, as part of my rails app. I didnt start this yet, but when I will, I would have a look at Rails Engines. Might be a good start for you as well. regards, bart Mauro Cicio wrote: >hello. i would like to have part of my personal wesite to be a wiki. >i am trying to understand which one is the "best practice" to achieve that. > >at the moment i have hacked instiki a little so that i can use >it from a different ROOT - routing delegated to apache - and still >have the instiki writing pages under my rails based website ROOT. > >i am pretty sure that there is something better than that. any suggestion? > >main problem: instiki has a pretty crowded application.rb: >i think it is not a brilliant idea to mix it with my site one. >how would you keep the separation between the two? > >thanks for your attention! > >mauro cicio >_______________________________________________ >Instiki-users mailing list >Instiki-users at rubyforge.org >http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/instiki-users > > > > > From alex at verk.info Sat Dec 24 01:07:07 2005 From: alex at verk.info (Alexey Verkhovsky) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:07:07 -0700 Subject: [Instiki] How does instiki.org accomplish its URLs? In-Reply-To: <3ff47be90512221518kce60817n62c0bbcd988b910a@mail.gmail.com> References: <15730045.1135270153177.JavaMail.oscar.petersen@mac.com> <3ff47be90512221518kce60817n62c0bbcd988b910a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43ACE58B.5040408@verk.info> Assaph Mehr wrote: >I think instiki.org actually does it differently - i think it has an >apache server in front that does the forwading internally. > It used to be that way some time back, but nowadays Apache just passes everything to a different port. config/routes.rb of Instiki (at least, the trunk version) contains the following code snippet: if defined? DEFAULT_WEB explicit_path = generic_path.gsub(/:web\/?/, '') explicit_routing_options = generic_routing_options.merge(:web => DEFAULT_WEB) map.connect(explicit_path, explicit_routing_options) end and then all routes to web-specific pages are defined as: connect_to_web map, ':web/edit_web', :controller => 'admin', :action => 'edit_web' Which means that if you add DEFAULT_WEB = 'instiki' to your config/environment.rb, it will route /show/HomePage same to the same action and web as /instiki/show/HomePage. Caveat: unfortunately, this also breaks some functionality in other (non-default) webs (try to click on Recently Revised at http://instiki.org/textilesandbox/show/HomePage). So, you cannot have a default web on a multi-web Instiki installation. If someone could patch routes.rb to make this scenario possible, I'll accept it without much ado. Best regards, Alexey Verkhovsky From oscar.petersen at mac.com Sun Dec 25 10:44:47 2005 From: oscar.petersen at mac.com (Oscar Petersen) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 16:44:47 +0100 Subject: [Instiki] How does instiki.org accomplish its URLs? In-Reply-To: <43ACE58B.5040408@verk.info> References: <15730045.1135270153177.JavaMail.oscar.petersen@mac.com> <3ff47be90512221518kce60817n62c0bbcd988b910a@mail.gmail.com> <43ACE58B.5040408@verk.info> Message-ID: <3603413.1135525487337.JavaMail.oscar.petersen@mac.com> Thanks to both of you for your help. Both suggestions work perfectly! Happy holidays >Assaph Mehr wrote: > >>I think instiki.org actually does it differently - i think it has an >>apache server in front that does the forwading internally. >> >It used to be that way some time back, but nowadays Apache just passes >everything to a different port. > >config/routes.rb of Instiki (at least, the trunk version) contains the >following code snippet: > > if defined? DEFAULT_WEB > explicit_path = generic_path.gsub(/:web\/?/, '') > explicit_routing_options = generic_routing_options.merge(:web => >DEFAULT_WEB) > map.connect(explicit_path, explicit_routing_options) > end > >and then all routes to web-specific pages are defined as: > connect_to_web map, ':web/edit_web', :controller => 'admin', :action >=> 'edit_web' > >Which means that if you add > DEFAULT_WEB = 'instiki' >to your config/environment.rb, it will route /show/HomePage same to the >same action and web as /instiki/show/HomePage. > >Caveat: unfortunately, this also breaks some functionality in other >(non-default) webs (try to click on Recently Revised at >http://instiki.org/textilesandbox/show/HomePage). So, you cannot have a >default web on a multi-web Instiki installation. If someone could patch >routes.rb to make this scenario possible, I'll accept it without much ado. > >Best regards, >Alexey Verkhovsky From rdm at cfcl.com Mon Dec 26 13:58:48 2005 From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 10:58:48 -0800 Subject: [Instiki] instiki-ar timeframe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 12:43 AM +0200 11/29/05, John Evans wrote: > So basically a simple question, what is the time frame on this one? > A week, two, four? No pressure intended, I am just wondering if I > should make do for a few more weeks or not. What he said. Instiki-AR Beta 1 was released about a month ago. I've seen only a little commentary on it, despite Alexey's pleas for feedback. Does this mean that it Just Works, or merely that everyone is holding off the same way I am (:-)? Meanwhile, Pimki hasn't had any releases since 9/15. Assaph, can you give us any idea about your release plans? On 11/10, you said I'm currently waiting for the dust to settle a bit before reimplementing, *again*, Pimki over the new Instiki. I'm still considering what's the best course to achieve that, especially since Pimki is aimed at really personal use / small groups - people that need it to "just work" without the hassle of database maintenance. Inquiring minds need to know... -r -- email: rdm at cfcl.com; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com - Canta Forda Computer Laboratory http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. From assaph at gmail.com Mon Dec 26 17:27:27 2005 From: assaph at gmail.com (Assaph Mehr) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 09:27:27 +1100 Subject: [Instiki] instiki-ar timeframe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3ff47be90512261427p68288c2fw8ca118ed092f605a@mail.gmail.com> Hi Rich, Can't speak for Alexey, but I think he mentioned he hopes to get a bit done over the holidays. I believe he's also looking for contributors who can take over the project. I think that Beta1 mostly works. There were a few minor issues, but it should more or less work. I have no idea how much change would there be between it and the next release though. > Meanwhile, Pimki hasn't had any releases since 9/15. Assaph, can > you give us any idea about your release plans? On 11/10, you said Since Instiki development is done in spurts and since the packaging format is yet to be determined - all of which is not really good for Pimki - I have decided to build Pimki on top of KirbyBase[1] as a backend. For this end I am writing a ActiveRecord adapter for it[2]. Once done (soon) I will take whatever is there in the Instiki trunk (hopefully there will be a release soon) and rebuild Pimki on top of it. After that the ties between Instiki and Pimki will be looser - I will make sure that you can import webs exported by Instiki, the look & feel will be rougly similar (I DO plan to borrow as much code :-), but the functionality and underlying arch will be somewhat different. I have tons of ideas and work for Pimki, but the backend hussles have been slowing me down. You can take a look at Pimki2 (in CVS) for some of the work - it's functional but in a zombie state until the backend change is complete. Instiki is a fine project, and I think it's a damn shame that it peters out like this. Currently if you're after a lite-but-stable wiki I2 & Soks are better, and if you're after a personal wiki Pimki is better. Instiki falls in the grey area between, and with Alexey so busy it doesn't get enough loving to keep it alive. I do not believe I am the right person to maintain Instiki, but if there are interested parties - please contact Alexey! (He won't bite, he's a nice - but overworked - chap :-) Cheers, Assaph [1] http://www.netpromi.com/kirbybase_ruby.html [2] http://rubyforge.org/projects/ackbar From rdm at cfcl.com Tue Dec 27 03:12:01 2005 From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:12:01 -0800 Subject: [Instiki] running Pimki on Mac OS X? Message-ID: I just downloaded and installed Pimki on Mac OS X, but I don't know where thing got put (and neither does the OS): > (SU) root at cerberus [~/Work/Pimki] 1: gem install pimki > Attempting local installation of 'pimki' > Local gem file not found: pimki*.gem > Attempting remote installation of 'pimki' > Updating Gem source index for: http://gems.rubyforge.org > Install required dependency RedCloth? [Yn] Y > Install required dependency BlueCloth? [Yn] Y > Install required dependency rubyzip? [Yn] Y > Install required dependency madeleine? [Yn] Y > Successfully installed Pimki-1.8.092 > Successfully installed RedCloth-3.0.4 > Successfully installed BlueCloth-1.0.0 > Successfully installed rubyzip-0.5.12 > Successfully installed madeleine-0.7.1 > Installing RDoc documentation for BlueCloth-1.0.0... > (SU) root at cerberus [~/Work/Pimki] 2: pimki > tcsh: pimki: Command not found. > (SU) root at cerberus [~/Work/Pimki] 3: which pimki > pimki: Command not found. > (SU) root at cerberus [~/Work/Pimki] 5: exit > exit > rdm at cerberus [~/Work/Pimki] 49: pimki I'm looking about, but some help and advice would be most appreciated! -r -- email: rdm at cfcl.com; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com - Canta Forda Computer Laboratory http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. From assaph at gmail.com Tue Dec 27 07:15:25 2005 From: assaph at gmail.com (Assaph Mehr) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 23:15:25 +1100 Subject: [Instiki] running Pimki on Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3ff47be90512270415g4819391en7411e43b09c5984e@mail.gmail.com> Hi Rich, Sorry about that. The link for Pimki2 is: http://rubyforge.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/pimki2.tar.gz?root=pimki&view=tar (Just tested it). If it doesn't play nice you can go to the Pimki Rubyfirge project page (http://rubyforge.org/projects/pimki/), go to the SCM tab -> browse anonymous CVS -> Pimki2 and "download tarball" at the bottom. You should then simply unpack the zip and from a terminal run 'pimki' in the unzipped directory. > > (SU) root at cerberus [~/Work/Pimki] 1: gem install pimki That should install Pimki 1.8. Normally all the gems go under the /lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems directory and the pimki executable should go in the same directory as the ruby binary. I haven't touched a mac in a while, so am not sure where it should be, but try 'which ruby' and then check that directory for a 'pimki' script - it could simply be something like wrong permissions on the file or wrong bang line. Let me know of this works. Cheers, Assaph From rdm at cfcl.com Tue Dec 27 14:24:38 2005 From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:24:38 -0800 Subject: [Instiki] running Pimki on Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: <3ff47be90512270415g4819391en7411e43b09c5984e@mail.gmail.com> References: <3ff47be90512270415g4819391en7411e43b09c5984e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Brute force strikes again: % find / -print | grep -i pimki ... /usr/bin/pimki.rb /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/cache/Pimki-1.8.092.gem /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/Pimki-1.8.092 ... Running pimki.rb started up a server. After I play with it for a while, I may get brave and try Pimki2. -r -- email: rdm at cfcl.com; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com - Canta Forda Computer Laboratory http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. From assaph at gmail.com Tue Dec 27 14:45:35 2005 From: assaph at gmail.com (Assaph Mehr) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 06:45:35 +1100 Subject: [Instiki] running Pimki on Mac OS X? In-Reply-To: References: <3ff47be90512270415g4819391en7411e43b09c5984e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3ff47be90512271145h34324e60w227222ce8c40dc91@mail.gmail.com> > Running pimki.rb started up a server. After I play with it > for a while, I may get brave and try Pimki2. Great! glad you managed to get it working. Let me know any thoughts/comments/feedback you have. Cheers, Assaph From BArmstrong at dymaxion.ca Wed Dec 28 07:03:18 2005 From: BArmstrong at dymaxion.ca (BG - Ben Armstrong) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 08:03:18 -0400 Subject: [Instiki] instiki-ar timeframe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1135771398.8267.6.camel@bgpc.dymaxion.ca> On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 10:58 -0800, Rich Morin wrote: > What he said. Instiki-AR Beta 1 was released about a month ago. > I've seen only a little commentary on it, despite Alexey's pleas > for feedback. Does this mean that it Just Works, or merely that > everyone is holding off the same way I am (:-)? I don't know about everyone else, but I'm holding off. Ben From alex at verk.info Wed Dec 28 18:35:25 2005 From: alex at verk.info (Alexey Verkhovsky) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 16:35:25 -0700 Subject: [Instiki] instiki-ar timeframe In-Reply-To: <1135771398.8267.6.camel@bgpc.dymaxion.ca> References: <1135771398.8267.6.camel@bgpc.dymaxion.ca> Message-ID: <43B3213D.80305@verk.info> BG - Ben Armstrong wrote: >On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 10:58 -0800, Rich Morin wrote: > > >>What he said. Instiki-AR Beta 1 was released about a month ago. >>I've seen only a little commentary on it, despite Alexey's pleas >>for feedback. Does this mean that it Just Works, or merely that >>everyone is holding off the same way I am (:-)? >> >> >I don't know about everyone else, but I'm holding off. > > Commentary that I received was either along the "just works" lines, or complaints about installation process. I've fixed several low severity bugs between that release and now, and there are a few more open in the Trac. Best regards, Alex From rdm at cfcl.com Thu Dec 29 02:19:47 2005 From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:19:47 -0800 Subject: [Instiki] Ontiki: an ontology-aware wiki Message-ID: I recently posted a speculative weblog entry that seems relevant to this list: "Ontiki: an ontology-aware wiki" http://www.cfcl.com/~rdm/weblog/archives/000902.html Feel free to look it over, make comments, etc. -r -- email: rdm at cfcl.com; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com - Canta Forda Computer Laboratory http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. From rdm at cfcl.com Thu Dec 29 03:05:59 2005 From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 00:05:59 -0800 Subject: [Instiki] instiki-ar timeframe In-Reply-To: <43B3213D.80305@verk.info> References: <1135771398.8267.6.camel@bgpc.dymaxion.ca> <43B3213D.80305@verk.info> Message-ID: Alex- Pardon my ignorance; here are some naive questions: * Is Rails bundled with Instiki-AR? * Does the current version of Instiki-AR play nicely with Rails 1.0? I'd like to be able to grab a copy of Instiki-AR that uses Rails 1.0, to reduce the near-term dislocations. -r -- email: rdm at cfcl.com; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com - Canta Forda Computer Laboratory http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. From assaph at gmail.com Thu Dec 29 04:32:28 2005 From: assaph at gmail.com (Assaph Mehr) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:32:28 +1100 Subject: [Instiki] instiki-ar timeframe In-Reply-To: References: <1135771398.8267.6.camel@bgpc.dymaxion.ca> <43B3213D.80305@verk.info> Message-ID: <3ff47be90512290132o609b87a7k9593fd218f43c0fc@mail.gmail.com> I'm not Alex, but... > * Is Rails bundled with Instiki-AR? In the zip file under /vendor/rails > * Does the current version of Instiki-AR > play nicely with Rails 1.0? I believe the SVN HEAD does. > I'd like to be able to grab a copy of Instiki-AR that > uses Rails 1.0, to reduce the near-term dislocations. Out of curiosity, what exactly do you mean? Cheers, Assaph From rdm at cfcl.com Thu Dec 29 11:27:01 2005 From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 08:27:01 -0800 Subject: [Instiki] instiki-ar timeframe In-Reply-To: <3ff47be90512290132o609b87a7k9593fd218f43c0fc@mail.gmail.com> References: <1135771398.8267.6.camel@bgpc.dymaxion.ca> <43B3213D.80305@verk.info> <3ff47be90512290132o609b87a7k9593fd218f43c0fc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: At 8:32 PM +1100 12/29/05, Assaph Mehr wrote: >> I'd like to be able to grab a copy of Instiki-AR that >> uses Rails 1.0, to reduce the near-term dislocations. > > Out of curiosity, what exactly do you mean? I'd like to start experimenting with Instiki-AR, making assorted extensions, etc. I'd rather not do all this on a version that uses the pre-1.0 Rails, as that is likely to cause more rework for me when Instiki-AR makes the move to Rails 1.0. I realize that nothing in this world is stable, but an occasional "line in the sand" snapshot can give the temporary illusion of permanence (:-). -r -- email: rdm at cfcl.com; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com - Canta Forda Computer Laboratory http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. From assaph at gmail.com Thu Dec 29 18:33:28 2005 From: assaph at gmail.com (Assaph Mehr) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:33:28 +1100 Subject: [Instiki] instiki-ar timeframe In-Reply-To: References: <1135771398.8267.6.camel@bgpc.dymaxion.ca> <43B3213D.80305@verk.info> <3ff47be90512290132o609b87a7k9593fd218f43c0fc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3ff47be90512291533k325c1fc8y707362eb67af2135@mail.gmail.com> > I'd like to start experimenting with Instiki-AR, making > assorted extensions, etc. I'd rather not do all this on > a version that uses the pre-1.0 Rails, as that is likely > to cause more rework for me when Instiki-AR makes the > move to Rails 1.0. I realize that nothing in this world > is stable, but an occasional "line in the sand" snapshot > can give the temporary illusion of permanence (:-). I think the problem will be Instiki itself rather than the underlying Rails version. Instiki development has been in spurts over the past few months (not that I blame Alexey - I do the same when I'm busy ;-), and the end result are huge differences between minor versions. And while catching up to new releases may be a pain, if you don't mind a few rough corners the version in SVN head should be an excellent base. It is a clean and simple wiki that can be extended easily. There are a few gotchas, but we'll gladly help with them :-) Cheers, Assaph From rdm at cfcl.com Fri Dec 30 14:58:01 2005 From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:58:01 -0800 Subject: [Instiki] Ontiki: an ontology-aware wiki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've received some useful comments and pointers: * IkeWiki (http://ikewiki.salzburgresearch.at) has many of the attributes I propose for Ontiki. * There is a Semantic Wiki Interest Group: http://wiki.ontoworld.org/index.php/Semantic_Wiki_Interest_Group and a Wikipedia entry for Semantic Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Wiki -r -- email: rdm at cfcl.com; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com - Canta Forda Computer Laboratory http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc.