From djlewis at acm.org  Tue Jan 15 12:36:08 2008
From: djlewis at acm.org (Deb Lewis)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:36:08 -0800
Subject: [Masterview-devel] Oooh! A plug for masterview!
Message-ID: <20080115093608739293.b21eafae@acm.org>

Ran across this one this morning while trolling some of my ruby news 
feeds:

http://antoniocangiano.com/2006/08/26/django-is-great/

Old, but the context of "need to work with a designer who's not a 
programmer (and doesn't want to be!)" is good snippet.

~ Deb

...
The template system allows designers to define the UI without having to 
know how to program in Python. This is a key point. DHH has the 
opposite philosophy: “My perspective is that designers won’t be 
creating templates from scratch anyway. Not unless they more or less 
become programmers.”. I disagree. I recently worked with a brilliant 
artist, who is a talented Web designer but did not have any experience 
with Ruby or Rails, and this affected the “agility” of development 
because she couldn’t just focus on her job, she had to get a bunch of 
Ruby/Rails skills through out the process;

From djlewis at acm.org  Tue Jan 15 12:23:13 2008
From: djlewis at acm.org (Deb Lewis)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:23:13 -0800
Subject: [Masterview-devel] Interesting perf tidbit on REXML
Message-ID: <20080115092313937801.e5da7df1@acm.org>

http://antoniocangiano.com/2007/02/10/top-10-ruby-on-rails-performance-tips/

Suggests checking out libxml, a ruby binding on the gnome xml parser, 
for perf improvement.  From one of the comments:

- The author is dead right about the speed of REXML. REXML (in 
DOM-style mode, at least) is unforgivably slow if you?re parsing large 
files (ditto for massive quantities of small ones). If you can 
guarantee their well-formedness, Libxml is unbelievably fast. If you 
can?t, consider Hpricot?s XML mode. REXML?s stream parser might be 
decent, haven?t really used it.

Might be worth exploring at some point to see if we can make the xml 
parser be configurable/pluggable to allow apps to optimize

~ Deb

From jeff.barczewski at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 10:23:41 2008
From: jeff.barczewski at gmail.com (Jeff Barczewski)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:23:41 -0600
Subject: [Masterview-devel] Interesting perf tidbit on REXML
In-Reply-To: <20080115092313937801.e5da7df1@acm.org>
References: <20080115092313937801.e5da7df1@acm.org>
Message-ID: <19cda190801160723r77e95137t9e2d06e41554be71@mail.gmail.com>

2008/1/15 Deb Lewis <djlewis at acm.org>:

>
> http://antoniocangiano.com/2007/02/10/top-10-ruby-on-rails-performance-tips/
>
> Suggests checking out libxml, a ruby binding on the gnome xml parser,
> for perf improvement.  From one of the comments:
>
> - The author is dead right about the speed of REXML. REXML (in
> DOM-style mode, at least) is unforgivably slow if you're parsing large
> files (ditto for massive quantities of small ones). If you can
> guarantee their well-formedness, Libxml is unbelievably fast. If you
> can't, consider Hpricot's XML mode. REXML's stream parser might be
> decent, haven't really used it.
>
> Might be worth exploring at some point to see if we can make the xml
> parser be configurable/pluggable to allow apps to optimize



Yeah, it would be nice to be pluggable. Will have to research what this
would take to do.

-- 
Jeff Barczewski, MasterView core team
Inspired Horizons Ruby on Rails Training and Consultancy
http://inspiredhorizons.com/
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