A Proposal To Magically Remove 'params'

[Ezra Zygmuntowicz]

On Sep 6, 2007, at 4:21 PM, ry dahl wrote:

>>> Bob Hutchison wrote:
>>>> Another dissenting voice... I will not/cannot avoid the use of the
>>>> params object in some of my applications. So, please, no  
>>>> deprecation.
>>>> I don't care if Merb supported controller parameters or not, in
>>>> principle. I doubt I'd ever use them, I prefer to look at the  
>>>> params
>>>> object as an input data thing that needs to be inspected rather
>>>> carefully. On the other hand, Merb is still mostly light and  
>>>> easy to
>>>> understand, and starts very quickly -- it would be sad to see this
>>>> end.
>>>
>>> Bob, in what way are you using params? Why can't you avoid it? I  
>>> think
>>> you are not thinking about this correctly.
>>
>> Well, I'll give you an example. One of my applications is a course
>> management system that administers and marks quizzes. The quiz is
>> supplied as data to the program and the program generates the form.
>> There is a single action in the controller that handles the test
>> marking and updates the student's 'transcript'.
>
> With action arguments one is still able to pass hash structures. For
> example, if you have an unknown number of quiz questions, then perhaps
> you would send
>
> quiz_questions[sex]=radio(male,female)&quiz_questions[age] 
> =intenger_select(0..50)
>
> (I'm inventing some syntax for form creation here. :)
>
> Then the action would look like
>
>   def quiz_create(quiz_questions)
>      ...
>   end
>
> The point is that you can pass hashes still in as arguments. Because
> of this, there isn't anything you can't do with params that you cannot
> do with action args.
>
> ry


	Plus even if we did allow action args in, params would not go away  
and you could just not give your actions arguments and use the  
oparams hash just like normal. So this is an additive feature and  
does not change the way you use params at all.

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