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Hey,<br>
<br>
I run ubuntu on my laptop and debian on several servers. I've got a
production box running mongrel and in the next few days I'm about to
install a bunch of stuff to a dev box for another project, it's got a
clean install of debian stable.<br>
<br>
I've dealt with the package/dependency mess before and figured out all
the missing stuff. I'm not a super linux guru, and I'm no debian
zealot, just have medium admin skills and enough persistence to figure
out why broken stuff is broken. I'd be happy to help contribute some
docs. What do you need? Lists of packages or complete docs? <i></i>Gotten
any other offers of help here?<br>
<br>
Oh yeah, I'm driving from Colorado to the west coast right now, so it
would be a day or two before I could contribute anything.<br>
But IMO you should do 2,3,4,5 and then do the release without holding
for 1.<br>
<br>
Let me know if you can use my assistance here,<br>
phil<br>
<br>
<br>
Zed Shaw wrote:
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type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Hello Folks,
After all the troubles people have had with Debian I realize that what
I've done still isn't enough for smooth sailing. I'm now going to hold
back the 0.3.13.4 release in order to put an end to the Debian problem
once and for all.
I'm currently planning the following changes:
1) Specific documentation for Debian. Debian will become the only Unix
distro that requires specific instructions. This should be a sign to
all that maybe it's not the one to use.
2) Large warnings that you need a compiler. Fair enough, that's a
deficiency all around.
3) The Rakefile will refuse to build if the extension does not build and
print a more extensive warning.
4) The Rakefile will warn people running on Debian that they most likely
have to install a lot more packages, pointing them at the instructions.
5) The mongrel_rails script will check itself to make sure extensions
exist and refuse to run, again pointing people at Debian instructions if
on that system.
If after this I can't reduce the number of people having problems on
Debian then I'm going to publicly declare that I do not support Debian
installs of Mongrel via RubyGems and that they should install via Debian
packages and work with the package maintainer.
If there are Debian people who like running Mongrel on their computers
then I'd ask that you step up and help. The fact that I'm holding back
a release out of frustration from one distro (that I actually use) is
enough for me to not want to support it. I have had less trouble
supporting windows than Debian, which is just insane.
And again, before people get their panties in a bunch, this isn't a
personal insult to you if you use Debian. These are *tools* not
religions. I use Operating Systems to get more interesting work done.
If you take my hatred of your operating system as hatred for you then
you are *not* understanding me at all.
You are a fantastic individual and I like you. I hate that you use such
a horrible distribution of Linux.
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Phillip Kast
(909)630-9562
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:phil@unimedia.org">phil@unimedia.org</a></pre>
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