From oksteev at gmail.com  Mon Sep  4 06:48:28 2006
From: oksteev at gmail.com (steve dp)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:48:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rails I18n] gettext speed issues
Message-ID: <loom.20060904T124555-159@post.gmane.org>

Hi,

I noticed gettext severely impacts rendering time, 3-4x slower than without.  Is
there any hope of a faster one in the future maybe written in C?

Or any sort of support for pre-translated templates?

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated,

Thanks!

- steve dp


From mutoh at highway.ne.jp  Mon Sep  4 12:00:33 2006
From: mutoh at highway.ne.jp (Masao Mutoh)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 01:00:33 +0900
Subject: [Rails I18n] gettext speed issues
In-Reply-To: <loom.20060904T124555-159@post.gmane.org>
References: <loom.20060904T124555-159@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20060905010033.4c4108af.mutoh@highway.ne.jp>

Hi,

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:48:28 +0000 (UTC)
steve dp <oksteev at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I noticed gettext severely impacts rendering time, 3-4x slower than without.  Is
> there any hope of a faster one in the future maybe written in C?

Not planed.

Anyway, 3-4x slower? Hmm. It's too slow. I think it's special case.  

> Or any sort of support for pre-translated templates?

It may be better to use separate rhtml in each locales. 
See http://www.yotabanana.com/hiki/ruby-gettext-howto-rails.html#Localized+templates+for+Views%2FActionMailer.

BTW, the next version of Ruby-GetText is faster than older version.
The sample blog in Ruby-GetText is 1.96 times faster than 1.7.0 in my environment.

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From dylans at gmail.com  Tue Sep  5 01:21:45 2006
From: dylans at gmail.com (Dylan Stamat)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:21:45 -0700
Subject: [Rails I18n] Indentifier name too long
Message-ID: <292e73400609042221w7783f035o56375dedffed4fa2@mail.gmail.com>

Running Edge (4991) and MySQL (5.0.22)
==============================

When running "rake db:migrate"

Mysql::Error: Identifier name
'index_globalize_translations_on_table_name_and_item_id_and_language_id' is
too long: CREATE  INDEX
`index_globalize_translations_on_table_name_and_item_id_and_language_id` ON
globalize_translations (`table_name`, `item_id`, `language_id`)
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From bschmeil at autoscout24.com  Tue Sep  5 04:20:08 2006
From: bschmeil at autoscout24.com (Martin Bernd Schmeil)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:20:08 +0200
Subject: [Rails I18n] Indentifier name too long
In-Reply-To: <292e73400609042221w7783f035o56375dedffed4fa2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <292e73400609042221w7783f035o56375dedffed4fa2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a980d14018ee8090d5cea983c3c1eeeb@ruby-forum.com>

Just add a

:name => ?something_idx?

parameter to the add_index statement.

Btw. If you have the same problem with foreign_keys:

1)       create an index with a shorter name
2)       add_fkey ?, :name => ?something_fk?, :index => false

does the trick.

Also you can handle the identifier name limit for the foreign key itself 
and index with a possibly too long name will be auto created ?unless you 
use the :index => false option. On most (all?) RDBMS you need an index 
for foreign keys column(s) though.

- Bernd


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From steve.odom at gmail.com  Tue Sep  5 17:53:29 2006
From: steve.odom at gmail.com (Steve Odom)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:53:29 -0500
Subject: [Rails I18n] globalize and respond_to
Message-ID: <32D67F8A-1C75-42BE-81CD-641681E2ADDF@gmail.com>

Has anyone using globalize tried it with a respond_to in your  
controller? Something like:

def show
  @question = Question.find(1)
  respond_to do |type|
    type.html
    type.xml
  end
end

I started RESTifying my site and started using respond_to. I kept  
getting an error saying that "show.rhtml" was not found, even though  
it was there. If I removed the respond_to block then the show view  
would output correctly. I tried all sorts of things trying to figure  
out the problem - including changing servers many times from  
webbrick, to mongrel inside of locomotive and then finally to  
litespeed. None of that worked.

I know it was something local to my site because I set up a test app  
and respond_to worked fine.

I started stripping out all the stuff to see if that would help and  
that brought me to globalize. If I comment out all of the globalize  
stuff, then my respond_to works fine.

I haven't dug in to see what could be causing it within globalize,  
but it definetely works without globalize and does not with globalize.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks,
Steve

From pic at superfluo.org  Tue Sep  5 23:49:17 2006
From: pic at superfluo.org (Nicola Piccinini)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 05:49:17 +0200
Subject: [Rails I18n] globalize and respond_to
In-Reply-To: <32D67F8A-1C75-42BE-81CD-641681E2ADDF@gmail.com>
References: <32D67F8A-1C75-42BE-81CD-641681E2ADDF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44FE453D.6030803@superfluo.org>

yes, I copy and paste here an email I sent about 3 weeks ago to the 
globalize mailing list:

------------------------
Hi,

I'm having problem with globalize (for-1.1, revision 199) and actionview 
combined with MimeResponds.

This is my, hopefully not too wrong, analysis:

Responders in MimeResponds (
actionpack-1.12.5/lib/action_controller/mime_responds.rb
) work rendering a template_path that includes extension, for example
template.rxml, template.rhtml, etc.

ActionView::Base in globalize (
globalize/lib/globalize/rails/action_view.rb
) passes this kind of templates to pick_template_extension (line 29) and 
this throws an exception.
To workaround this problem, one can borrow code from rails 1.1 
ActionView::Base#render_file and substitute

if use_full_path
           template_extension = pick_template_extension(template_path).to_s
           template_file_name = full_template_path(template_path, 
template_extension)

with

if use_full_path
       template_extension = nil
           template_path_without_extension, template_extension = 
path_and_extension(template_path)
           if template_extension
             template_file_name = 
full_template_path(template_path_without_extension, template_extension)
           else
             template_extension = 
pick_template_extension(template_path).to_s
             template_file_name = full_template_path(template_path, 
template_extension)
           end

This works well in controllers but, unfortunately, completely breaks the 
globalize action_mailer_test because of the content type "extensions" 
added by globalize.
Example:
passed value -> test.en.plain.text
expected template -> test.en.plain.text.rhtml
but path_and_extension cuts text and search
test.en.plain.rhtml -> exception.

What are your thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
------------------------

Unfortunately nobody has replied :-( , anyway I suppose that you could 
solve your problems with the proposed modifications in 
globalize/lib/globalize/rails/action_view.rb

By the way, to work out the consequent problems with ActionMailer, 
perhaps Globalize should use _ as separator, as gettext does (
http://www.yotabanana.com/hiki/ruby-gettext-howto-rails.html#Localized+templates+for+Views%2FActionMailer
)

Best regards
-- 
Nicola Piccinini -- http://superfluo.org

From oksteev at gmail.com  Wed Sep  6 17:42:30 2006
From: oksteev at gmail.com (steve dp)
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:42:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rails I18n] gettext speed issues
References: <loom.20060904T124555-159@post.gmane.org>
	<20060905010033.4c4108af.mutoh@highway.ne.jp>
Message-ID: <loom.20060906T233204-338@post.gmane.org>

Masao Mutoh <mutoh <at> highway.ne.jp> writes:

> > there any hope of a faster one in the future maybe written in C?
> 
> Not planed.

Sad about this :/

> BTW, the next version of Ruby-GetText is faster than older version.
> The sample blog in Ruby-GetText is 1.96 times faster than 1.7.0 in my 
> environment.

That's GREAT to hear, I'm also going to look into the Rails Template Optimizer.
There might be a way to have it work with gettext so that it only actually 
has to run the gettext lookup once per string per template and then subsequent
loads theres no more gettext() calls invovled: 

http://railsexpress.de/blog/articles/2006/08/15/rails-template-optimizer-beta-test
comments 18 -> 21


From gregsfm at tpg.com.au  Sat Sep  9 00:15:57 2006
From: gregsfm at tpg.com.au (Greg Hauptmann)
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 06:15:57 +0200
Subject: [Rails I18n] Most popular I18N plugin??  Which one would it be??
Message-ID: <31fca7bbd4c495ff3cf0bcbacd07253c@ruby-forum.com>

Hi,

Just wondering is there an obvious most popular I18N plugin that people 
use?  e.g. the one with the most traction/development/number of releases 
out?

Just wondering which one to dive into to.

Tks


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From sellittf at lu.unisi.ch  Sat Sep  9 14:46:28 2006
From: sellittf at lu.unisi.ch (Franco Sellitto)
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 20:46:28 +0200
Subject: [Rails I18n] Globalize and render_component: infinite loop?
Message-ID: <20e62f8f05943b4fec10caade1f772aa@ruby-forum.com>

Hi,

I just installed Globalize and I'm very excited about it!

Using it with the default

  map.connect ':controller/:action/:id'

in config/routes.rb, there is no problem, but so far I set

  map.connect ':locale/:controller/:action/:id'

to pass the language trough the URL, it seems to enter
in an infine loop when I have a view with a render_component() call.

For sure in both above cases, the Locale.set()
is in app/controllers/application.rb.

Is it an already known bug?
Is there a way around?

Thanks for hints

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From sellittf at lu.unisi.ch  Mon Sep 11 17:07:45 2006
From: sellittf at lu.unisi.ch (Franco Sellitto)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 23:07:45 +0200
Subject: [Rails I18n] Globalize and render_component: infinite loop?
In-Reply-To: <20e62f8f05943b4fec10caade1f772aa@ruby-forum.com>
References: <20e62f8f05943b4fec10caade1f772aa@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <f1508fd0ccf413d80dcb69c01b3bd4f5@ruby-forum.com>

I found the problem.

It was something else in the application.rb.

Actually the

  map.connect ':locale/:controller/:action/:id'

works very well.

Bye

PS: If you're in the same problem, I'll explain you how to prevent the 
loop.

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From phil.kursawe at gmail.com  Tue Sep 12 15:36:04 2006
From: phil.kursawe at gmail.com (PhilK)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:36:04 +0200
Subject: [Rails I18n] Globalize - German Month and Daynames
Message-ID: <0114bc8203949fc3b0ddd58dd98fe24a@ruby-forum.com>

Hello,

Just wondering if there is a reason why German month- and daynames are 
omitted from the data/csv files to translate dates into German? Or am I 
just blind?

Thanks,
Phil

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From sellittf at lu.unisi.ch  Wed Sep 13 03:30:36 2006
From: sellittf at lu.unisi.ch (Franco Sellitto)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:30:36 +0200
Subject: [Rails I18n] Globalize - German Month and Daynames
In-Reply-To: <0114bc8203949fc3b0ddd58dd98fe24a@ruby-forum.com>
References: <0114bc8203949fc3b0ddd58dd98fe24a@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <aa28f8f401069850fb325cd68771398d@ruby-forum.com>

Hi PhilK

Yor're right, there is not the translation to german.
Maybe are just forgotten.


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From phil.kursawe at gmail.com  Wed Sep 13 18:38:13 2006
From: phil.kursawe at gmail.com (PhilK)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 00:38:13 +0200
Subject: [Rails I18n] Globalize - German Month and Daynames
In-Reply-To: <aa28f8f401069850fb325cd68771398d@ruby-forum.com>
References: <0114bc8203949fc3b0ddd58dd98fe24a@ruby-forum.com>
	<aa28f8f401069850fb325cd68771398d@ruby-forum.com>
Message-ID: <61714976da098195c47a780aee72d4c0@ruby-forum.com>

Franco Sellitto wrote:
> Hi PhilK
> 
> Yor're right, there is not the translation to german.
> Maybe are just forgotten.

Ok, I created the forgotten entries myself now and could contribute them 
to the project as a patch somehow?

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From phil.kursawe at gmail.com  Wed Sep 13 18:43:55 2006
From: phil.kursawe at gmail.com (PhilK)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 00:43:55 +0200
Subject: [Rails I18n] How to Globalize using variants of templates?
In-Reply-To: <4f428e7b0607260650o38a19f6an56aa6dd422b7ecf7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4f428e7b0607260650o38a19f6an56aa6dd422b7ecf7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e30b910d2120d2fc9fa83f5ebf7fecee@ruby-forum.com>

Yash Ganthe wrote:
> However, in case of some languages like Arabic, the entire layout of
> all pages will have to be changed. The RHTMLs themselves will have to
> be different. This may also be the case for some other languages for
> which the static text does not align properly and we are forced to
> create still more variants of the RHTMLs.

Layouts could be switched depending on the Locale.language.direction 
field. Usally its "ltr" and if it is "rtl" you could load a different 
set of stylesheets using a before_filter in your ApplicationController.

> How do we make sure our application has a set of default templates
> that are used if the corresponding localized templates are not
> present?
> Is there something we need to do in routes.rb?
> How will Rails locate the template to be used for rendering?

Globalize tries to find templates by the current set locale in that 
format:
<templatename>.<lang>.rhtml If it does not find a file matching that 
convention, then it just uses the <templatename>.rhtml file.

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From scruffytech at gmx.net  Thu Sep 14 03:44:56 2006
From: scruffytech at gmx.net (Helmut Ziegler)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 09:44:56 +0200
Subject: [Rails I18n] globalize server down
Message-ID: <6C0FFB6A-5FD4-40B5-B702-9620CD289A74@gmx.net>

Hi,

since yesterday the server of globalize-rails.org seems to be down.  
Does anyone know if it has moved to another url or when it will be  
online again?
I'd like to check out globalize for rails 1.1.

Cheers,
Helmut

From joshmh at gmail.com  Thu Sep 14 09:02:25 2006
From: joshmh at gmail.com (Joshua Harvey)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 16:02:25 +0300
Subject: [Rails I18n] globalize server down
In-Reply-To: <6C0FFB6A-5FD4-40B5-B702-9620CD289A74@gmx.net>
References: <6C0FFB6A-5FD4-40B5-B702-9620CD289A74@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <3527dd260609140602j2a00f402r8ced541221e5e07f@mail.gmail.com>

I just contacted the guys at Planet Argon who host the site, they're looking
into it.

-- Josh


On 9/14/06, Helmut Ziegler <scruffytech at gmx.net> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> since yesterday the server of globalize-rails.org seems to be down.
> Does anyone know if it has moved to another url or when it will be
> online again?
> I'd like to check out globalize for rails 1.1.
>
> Cheers,
> Helmut
> _______________________________________________
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> Railsi18n-discussion at rubyforge.org
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From joshmh at gmail.com  Thu Sep 14 14:05:17 2006
From: joshmh at gmail.com (Joshua Harvey)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:05:17 +0300
Subject: [Rails I18n] globalize server down
In-Reply-To: <6C0FFB6A-5FD4-40B5-B702-9620CD289A74@gmx.net>
References: <6C0FFB6A-5FD4-40B5-B702-9620CD289A74@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <3527dd260609141105g4f66f187w993dd432ae1640df@mail.gmail.com>

Back up.

-- Josh

On 9/14/06, Helmut Ziegler <scruffytech at gmx.net> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> since yesterday the server of globalize-rails.org seems to be down.
> Does anyone know if it has moved to another url or when it will be
> online again?
> I'd like to check out globalize for rails 1.1.
>
> Cheers,
> Helmut
> _______________________________________________
> Railsi18n-discussion mailing list
> Railsi18n-discussion at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/railsi18n-discussion
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From iannehkg at yahoo.com.hk  Fri Sep 15 05:47:24 2006
From: iannehkg at yahoo.com.hk (Ianne Leson)
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:47:24 +0200
Subject: [Rails I18n] Can javascript be localized using globalize, gloc, ...
Message-ID: <dd3f9775a20e4b2ed8863c17af267171@ruby-forum.com>

or other localization method?

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From mutoh at highway.ne.jp  Mon Sep 18 03:23:34 2006
From: mutoh at highway.ne.jp (Masao Mutoh)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:23:34 +0900
Subject: [Rails I18n] Rails Engine localization with Ruby-GetText
Message-ID: <20060918162334.5ce785cb.mutoh@highway.ne.jp>

Hi,

Recently, some people ask me for the l10n of 
Engines with gettext.

So I wrote a HOWTO for it.
http://www.yotabanana.com/hiki/?ruby-gettext-howto-engines

And I localized login_engine for an example.
It includes English and Japanese messages.

http://www.yotabanana.com/hiki/?c=plugin;plugin=attach_download;p=ruby-gettext-howto-engines;file_name=login_engine_v1.0.2.gettext.tar.gz

HTH,

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From registrera at gmail.com  Wed Sep 27 10:31:27 2006
From: registrera at gmail.com (Daniel Sa)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:31:27 +0200
Subject: [Rails I18n] Are id-based keys possible with Globalize?
Message-ID: <4825c370fa8bcc95d871927dbe02e633@ruby-forum.com>

Is my understanding correct that Globalize use the base language string 
as the key when looking up translations?

Example:

class Product < ActiveRecord::Base
  translates :name
end

Locale.set_base_language('en-US')
Locale.set('en-US')

# Add my first product
Product.create!(:name => 'foo')
# Add another product
Product.create!(:name => 'foo')

Locale.set('es-ES')
# Get my first product and translate it
prod = Product.find(1)
prod.name = 'bar'
prod.save
# Now the other product will already be translated?
prod = Product.find(2)
prod.name -> 'bar'

I have a couple of use cases where this isn't a desired behaviour:

1. Synonymes in the base language
I have several totally different products that share the same name but 
they would be translated different since they are not synonymes in the 
other language. (Think of the word "plane".)

2. Synonymes in the other language
Users define their own terms which they then translate, and even though 
they mean the same thing, they prefer different translations. When one 
user translates his product (or whatever), the other users product 
shouldn't be affected.

I currently have a problem like use case two, and am looking for a 
solution. Would it be possible/doable to tweak Globalize to use some 
kind of string_id's instead of the actual strings when looking up the 
translations, while preserving the assumed seamless integration 
(avoiding creating extra fields in the db for the models)?

Is there any other existing solution to this? Any suggestions/ideas how 
this could be implemented if I would have to roll my own?

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