From pelargir at gmail.com  Thu Jun 15 16:48:05 2006
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew Bass)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:48:05 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Anyone participating in Rails Day?
Message-ID: <c2eae3390606151348jd4379f3tac5b418979ff6e00@mail.gmail.com>

I'm curious if anyone in Raleigh.rb is participating in Rails Day this
Saturday? I really wanted to, but had a prior commitment. I'd be interested
in hearing how it goes.

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From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Wed Jun 28 14:32:07 2006
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:32:07 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Barnraising and sprints
Message-ID: <1151519527.4050.45.camel@test>

Hi all--

I just read a synopsis of Nathaniel's RailsConf talk on the RailsConf
blog (very nice! are slides available?), and I was intrigued by the barn
raiser idea.

One semi-related idea that has proven quite valuable in the Plone
community is code sprints.  The idea is to get a small to medium-sized
group of people together to work on an area of common interest in Plone.
See http://plone.org/events/sprints/ for some examples.  Sprints are not
so focused on one individual's project as a barn raiser might be;
rather, they deal with on shared infrastructure.

The nice thing about sprints is that you get to meet people in the
community face-to-face, you get to work together on a common problem of
interest, and in the process you get to both teach and learn.  Face-time
is really important in a distributed software community.  It helps build
relationships that are much harder to establish via email / usenet / IRC
and can lead to interesting collaborations.

The structure of the Rails community seems to be such that having
sprinters work on the core is not really feasible.  However, I wonder if
there are key plugins / extensions on which a group of 5-10 people might
make real progress over the course of, say, a long weekend?

My sense is that there are a fair number of Triangle-area people doing
Rails work (including a few gurus -- an ingredient that can greatly
increase the chance of a sprint being productive), so I would think that
a critical mass could be assembled with relatively modest effort.

Is there any interest in such a thing?

Geoff


From tjstankus at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 28 14:43:20 2006
From: tjstankus at yahoo.com (TJ Stankus)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:43:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Barnraising and sprints
In-Reply-To: <1151519527.4050.45.camel@test>
Message-ID: <20060628184320.99560.qmail@web51401.mail.yahoo.com>

Geoff,

I've actually participated in a Plone sprint with you at the first Plone
BootCamp. That was a great experience and I, for one, would definitely be
interested in more of that. Perhaps we could all discuss a planned
barnraising/sprint at the next raleigh.rb meeting.

As far as Nathaniel's talk goes, IIRC the slides themselves were very minimal.
You might not get much out of the slides, but if the talk video or audio is
made available, which I'm told it will be, it's definitely worth a listen.

-TJ

--- Geoff Davis <geoff at geoffdavis.net> wrote:

> Hi all--
> 
> I just read a synopsis of Nathaniel's RailsConf talk on the RailsConf
> blog (very nice! are slides available?), and I was intrigued by the barn
> raiser idea.
> 
> One semi-related idea that has proven quite valuable in the Plone
> community is code sprints.  The idea is to get a small to medium-sized
> group of people together to work on an area of common interest in Plone.
> See http://plone.org/events/sprints/ for some examples.  Sprints are not
> so focused on one individual's project as a barn raiser might be;
> rather, they deal with on shared infrastructure.
> 
> The nice thing about sprints is that you get to meet people in the
> community face-to-face, you get to work together on a common problem of
> interest, and in the process you get to both teach and learn.  Face-time
> is really important in a distributed software community.  It helps build
> relationships that are much harder to establish via email / usenet / IRC
> and can lead to interesting collaborations.
> 
> The structure of the Rails community seems to be such that having
> sprinters work on the core is not really feasible.  However, I wonder if
> there are key plugins / extensions on which a group of 5-10 people might
> make real progress over the course of, say, a long weekend?
> 
> My sense is that there are a fair number of Triangle-area people doing
> Rails work (including a few gurus -- an ingredient that can greatly
> increase the chance of a sprint being productive), so I would think that
> a critical mass could be assembled with relatively modest effort.
> 
> Is there any interest in such a thing?
> 
> Geoff
> 
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> 


From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Wed Jun 28 14:59:30 2006
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:59:30 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Barnraising and sprints
In-Reply-To: <20060628184320.99560.qmail@web51401.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20060628184320.99560.qmail@web51401.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1151521170.4050.49.camel@test>

Cool!  I thought I recognized your name on the raleigh.rb list.

Yes, I think a discussion of a possible sprint would be a good item for
the next ruby meetup.

For those of you who, like me, missed RailsConf, here's a nice summary
of Nathaniel's talk:

http://farm.tucows.com/blog/_archives/2006/6/26/2057843.html

And here's an interesting but somewhat patchy overview of the rest of
the conference that I stumbled across:

http://hagelb.org/railsconf/

Geoff



On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 11:43 -0700, TJ Stankus wrote:
> Geoff,
> 
> I've actually participated in a Plone sprint with you at the first Plone
> BootCamp. That was a great experience and I, for one, would definitely be
> interested in more of that. Perhaps we could all discuss a planned
> barnraising/sprint at the next raleigh.rb meeting.
> 
> As far as Nathaniel's talk goes, IIRC the slides themselves were very minimal.
> You might not get much out of the slides, but if the talk video or audio is
> made available, which I'm told it will be, it's definitely worth a listen.
> 
> -TJ
> 
> --- Geoff Davis <geoff at geoffdavis.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all--
> > 
> > I just read a synopsis of Nathaniel's RailsConf talk on the RailsConf
> > blog (very nice! are slides available?), and I was intrigued by the barn
> > raiser idea.
> > 
> > One semi-related idea that has proven quite valuable in the Plone
> > community is code sprints.  The idea is to get a small to medium-sized
> > group of people together to work on an area of common interest in Plone.
> > See http://plone.org/events/sprints/ for some examples.  Sprints are not
> > so focused on one individual's project as a barn raiser might be;
> > rather, they deal with on shared infrastructure.
> > 
> > The nice thing about sprints is that you get to meet people in the
> > community face-to-face, you get to work together on a common problem of
> > interest, and in the process you get to both teach and learn.  Face-time
> > is really important in a distributed software community.  It helps build
> > relationships that are much harder to establish via email / usenet / IRC
> > and can lead to interesting collaborations.
> > 
> > The structure of the Rails community seems to be such that having
> > sprinters work on the core is not really feasible.  However, I wonder if
> > there are key plugins / extensions on which a group of 5-10 people might
> > make real progress over the course of, say, a long weekend?
> > 
> > My sense is that there are a fair number of Triangle-area people doing
> > Rails work (including a few gurus -- an ingredient that can greatly
> > increase the chance of a sprint being productive), so I would think that
> > a critical mass could be assembled with relatively modest effort.
> > 
> > Is there any interest in such a thing?
> > 
> > Geoff
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> 


From tjstankus at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 28 16:35:43 2006
From: tjstankus at yahoo.com (TJ Stankus)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:35:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Barnraising and sprints
In-Reply-To: <1151521170.4050.49.camel@test>
Message-ID: <20060628203543.17587.qmail@web51412.mail.yahoo.com>

Oops, almost forgot: http://barnraisr.com/

Nathaniel's talk was early Saturday evening and someone had barnraisr up by
the next day.

-TJ

--- Geoff Davis <geoff at geoffdavis.net> wrote:

> Cool!  I thought I recognized your name on the raleigh.rb list.
> 
> Yes, I think a discussion of a possible sprint would be a good item for
> the next ruby meetup.
> 
> For those of you who, like me, missed RailsConf, here's a nice summary
> of Nathaniel's talk:
> 
> http://farm.tucows.com/blog/_archives/2006/6/26/2057843.html
> 
> And here's an interesting but somewhat patchy overview of the rest of
> the conference that I stumbled across:
> 
> http://hagelb.org/railsconf/
> 
> Geoff
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 11:43 -0700, TJ Stankus wrote:
> > Geoff,
> > 
> > I've actually participated in a Plone sprint with you at the first Plone
> > BootCamp. That was a great experience and I, for one, would definitely be
> > interested in more of that. Perhaps we could all discuss a planned
> > barnraising/sprint at the next raleigh.rb meeting.
> > 
> > As far as Nathaniel's talk goes, IIRC the slides themselves were very
> minimal.
> > You might not get much out of the slides, but if the talk video or audio
> is
> > made available, which I'm told it will be, it's definitely worth a listen.
> > 
> > -TJ
> > 
> > --- Geoff Davis <geoff at geoffdavis.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all--
> > > 
> > > I just read a synopsis of Nathaniel's RailsConf talk on the RailsConf
> > > blog (very nice! are slides available?), and I was intrigued by the barn
> > > raiser idea.
> > > 
> > > One semi-related idea that has proven quite valuable in the Plone
> > > community is code sprints.  The idea is to get a small to medium-sized
> > > group of people together to work on an area of common interest in Plone.
> > > See http://plone.org/events/sprints/ for some examples.  Sprints are not
> > > so focused on one individual's project as a barn raiser might be;
> > > rather, they deal with on shared infrastructure.
> > > 
> > > The nice thing about sprints is that you get to meet people in the
> > > community face-to-face, you get to work together on a common problem of
> > > interest, and in the process you get to both teach and learn.  Face-time
> > > is really important in a distributed software community.  It helps build
> > > relationships that are much harder to establish via email / usenet / IRC
> > > and can lead to interesting collaborations.
> > > 
> > > The structure of the Rails community seems to be such that having
> > > sprinters work on the core is not really feasible.  However, I wonder if
> > > there are key plugins / extensions on which a group of 5-10 people might
> > > make real progress over the course of, say, a long weekend?
> > > 
> > > My sense is that there are a fair number of Triangle-area people doing
> > > Rails work (including a few gurus -- an ingredient that can greatly
> > > increase the chance of a sprint being productive), so I would think that
> > > a critical mass could be assembled with relatively modest effort.
> > > 
> > > Is there any interest in such a thing?
> > > 
> > > Geoff
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> > > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> > 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>