From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Wed Jan  3 09:41:02 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 09:41:02 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Desktop software in Rails?
In-Reply-To: <2b27183e0612252031o7e5bcd42o8e4cb2802d26849f@mail.gmail.com>
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I'm sure I'm using the wrong term, but what's out there in Rails that  
would look like http://www.protopage.com or http://www.netvibes.com ?

I'm not even sure where to start looking...

Thanks all,

Jared
http://JaredRichardson.net
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From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Wed Jan  3 09:49:08 2007
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 09:49:08 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Desktop software in Rails?
In-Reply-To: <621E988E-FCF9-4DC0-9DDF-BB9EDCAD405E@nc.rr.com>
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Back in the 90's I heard those kinds of things called "portlets".   
I'd guess that a content management system (try Radiant) would be the  
place to start.  Perhaps there are portlet add-ons for Radiant?

On Jan 3, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Jared Richardson wrote:

> I'm sure I'm using the wrong term, but what's out there in Rails  
> that would look like http://www.protopage.com or http:// 
> www.netvibes.com ?
>
> I'm not even sure where to start looking...
>
> Thanks all,
>
> Jared
> http://JaredRichardson.net
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
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From charlesmbowman at gmail.com  Wed Jan  3 10:08:01 2007
From: charlesmbowman at gmail.com (Charlie Bowman)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 10:08:01 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Desktop software in Rails?
In-Reply-To: <773FA927-AAF4-4368-9479-975C1F9A5D3B@geoffdavis.net>
References: <88499CFC-5D92-4839-8015-0D1C714BC981@geoffdavis.net>
	<2b27183e0612252031o7e5bcd42o8e4cb2802d26849f@mail.gmail.com>
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My advice would be to look on Sourceforge or Rubyforge for this.  There's
probably something there that will point you in the right direction.

On 1/3/07, Geoff Davis <geoff at geoffdavis.net> wrote:
>
> Back in the 90's I heard those kinds of things called "portlets".  I'd
> guess that a content management system (try Radiant) would be the place to
> start.  Perhaps there are portlet add-ons for Radiant?
>
> On Jan 3, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Jared Richardson wrote:
>
> I'm sure I'm using the wrong term, but what's out there in Rails that
> would look like http://www.protopage.com or http://www.netvibes.com ?
>
> I'm not even sure where to start looking...
>
> Thanks all,
>
> Jared
> http://JaredRichardson.net
> _______________________________________________
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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>
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From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Wed Jan  3 10:32:42 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 10:32:42 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Desktop software in Rails?
In-Reply-To: <298c4d2a0701030708u4918ddffl6b749d91d47b18c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <88499CFC-5D92-4839-8015-0D1C714BC981@geoffdavis.net>
	<2b27183e0612252031o7e5bcd42o8e4cb2802d26849f@mail.gmail.com>
	<621E988E-FCF9-4DC0-9DDF-BB9EDCAD405E@nc.rr.com>
	<773FA927-AAF4-4368-9479-975C1F9A5D3B@geoffdavis.net>
	<298c4d2a0701030708u4918ddffl6b749d91d47b18c9@mail.gmail.com>
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Cool... I can see Geoff's response because Charlie quoted him, but I  
still haven't seen Geoff's mail. :)

Geoff, this is different than a portlet. Portlets require a portal to  
run in and that's a specific engine.

Charlie, I haven't found anything yet, but I suspect it's because I'm  
not using the correct terms for my searches. Any hints?

btw, a co-worker is on the Yahoo toolkit. It might give us enough to  
finish out our own implementation.

Jared
http://JaredRichardson.net

On Jan 3, 2007, at 10:08 AM, Charlie Bowman wrote:

> My advice would be to look on Sourceforge or Rubyforge for this.   
> There's probably something there that will point you in the right  
> direction.
>
> On 1/3/07, Geoff Davis <geoff at geoffdavis.net> wrote:
> Back in the 90's I heard those kinds of things called "portlets".   
> I'd guess that a content management system (try Radiant) would be  
> the place to start.  Perhaps there are portlet add-ons for Radiant?
>
> On Jan 3, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Jared Richardson wrote:
>
>> I'm sure I'm using the wrong term, but what's out there in Rails  
>> that would look like  http://www.protopage.com or  http:// 
>> www.netvibes.com ?
>>
>> I'm not even sure where to start looking...
>>
>> Thanks all,
>>
>> Jared
>> http://JaredRichardson.net
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From rob at muhlestein.net  Thu Jan  4 18:49:10 2007
From: rob at muhlestein.net (Rob Muhlestein)
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:49:10 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Desktop software in Rails?
In-Reply-To: <FDF10A8A-1684-4086-B464-BFAC6F007886@nc.rr.com>
References: <88499CFC-5D92-4839-8015-0D1C714BC981@geoffdavis.net>
	<2b27183e0612252031o7e5bcd42o8e4cb2802d26849f@mail.gmail.com>
	<621E988E-FCF9-4DC0-9DDF-BB9EDCAD405E@nc.rr.com>
	<773FA927-AAF4-4368-9479-975C1F9A5D3B@geoffdavis.net>
	<298c4d2a0701030708u4918ddffl6b749d91d47b18c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<FDF10A8A-1684-4086-B464-BFAC6F007886@nc.rr.com>
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> btw, a co-worker is on the Yahoo toolkit. It might give us enough to
> finish out our own implementation.

Perhaps more appropriate to the webdev meetups, wouldn't it be nice to
see a summary of the Google web toolkit v.s. the Yahoo toolkit? Maybe
already been done.

-- 
Rob Muhlestein
http://rob.muhlestein.net


From blake at near-time.com  Fri Jan  5 14:05:51 2007
From: blake at near-time.com (Blake Watters)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:05:51 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] recruiting strategies for start-ups?
Message-ID: <2DE05DF8-E237-4A93-8DC8-28F8F7147C5D@near-time.com>

How is everyone out there handling recruiting for your various  
ventures? At Near-Time, we've traditionally been working personal  
relationships and recommendations from trusted people, but we're  
hitting the outer limits of those circles. We're hesitant to post job  
descriptions openly and deal with a huge flood of faceless resumes.  
Has anybody found a middle ground?

Cheers,
Blake

From fatcatt316 at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  5 14:42:58 2007
From: fatcatt316 at yahoo.com (Joe Peck)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:42:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] recruiting strategies for start-ups?
In-Reply-To: <2DE05DF8-E237-4A93-8DC8-28F8F7147C5D@near-time.com>
Message-ID: <20070105194258.39266.qmail@web61224.mail.yahoo.com>

You could hold a small presentation at State, it'd be a good chance to meet some engineers face-to-face.  If you provide pizza, I guarantee you'd get a packed house.

Blake Watters <blake at near-time.com> wrote: How is everyone out there handling recruiting for your various  
ventures? At Near-Time, we've traditionally been working personal  
relationships and recommendations from trusted people, but we're  
hitting the outer limits of those circles. We're hesitant to post job  
descriptions openly and deal with a huge flood of faceless resumes.  
Has anybody found a middle ground?

Cheers,
Blake
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From z at zworkbench.com  Fri Jan  5 15:08:33 2007
From: z at zworkbench.com (Chris Garrett)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:08:33 +0000
Subject: [raleigh.rb] recruiting strategies for start-ups?
In-Reply-To: <20070105194258.39266.qmail@web61224.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2DE05DF8-E237-4A93-8DC8-28F8F7147C5D@near-time.com>
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Along those lines, look into local co-op programs.  I worked at a startup a
few years ago that actively recruited co-ops from State.  It's a good source
of relatively inexpensive labor, and you can get some very motivated, bright
people who want real experience.

You have the training ramp, but it's often much less than you'd expect.  The
trick is to give them real challenges, and they will rise to it.  Best of
all, a co-op is a great trial period for both parties.

Regards,
Chris



On 1/5/07, Joe Peck <fatcatt316 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> You could hold a small presentation at State, it'd be a good chance to
> meet some engineers face-to-face.  If you provide pizza, I guarantee you'd
> get a packed house.
>
> *Blake Watters <blake at near-time.com>* wrote:
>
> How is everyone out there handling recruiting for your various
> ventures? At Near-Time, we've traditionally been working personal
> relationships and recommendations from trusted people, but we're
> hitting the outer limits of those circles. We're hesitant to post job
> descriptions openly and deal with a huge flood of faceless resumes.
> Has anybody found a middle ground?
>
> Cheers,
> Blake
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
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>
>
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From pkristoff at acm.org  Fri Jan  5 15:10:31 2007
From: pkristoff at acm.org (pkristoff at acm.org)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:10:31 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] recruiting strategies for start-ups?
In-Reply-To: <2DE05DF8-E237-4A93-8DC8-28F8F7147C5D@near-time.com>
Message-ID: <007e01c73105$8d81f3d0$1602a8c0@PaulsLaptopII>

Blake,

  You might trying making an announcement at the Ruby meetup night.

Paul Kristoff
214-598-9610
PKristoff at acm.org
www.PaulKristoff.com
 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 2:06 PM
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Subject: [raleigh.rb] recruiting strategies for start-ups?

How is everyone out there handling recruiting for your various  
ventures? At Near-Time, we've traditionally been working personal  
relationships and recommendations from trusted people, but we're  
hitting the outer limits of those circles. We're hesitant to post job  
descriptions openly and deal with a huge flood of faceless resumes.  
Has anybody found a middle ground?

Cheers,
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From rob at muhlestein.net  Fri Jan  5 17:32:57 2007
From: rob at muhlestein.net (Rob Muhlestein)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:32:57 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] recruiting strategies for start-ups?
In-Reply-To: <82883b650701051208g30ea4fa6w111f5615c922035c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2DE05DF8-E237-4A93-8DC8-28F8F7147C5D@near-time.com>
	<20070105194258.39266.qmail@web61224.mail.yahoo.com>
	<82883b650701051208g30ea4fa6w111f5615c922035c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1168036377.13391.94.camel@dads>

On Fri, 2007-01-05 at 20:08 +0000, Chris Garrett wrote:
> Along those lines, look into local co-op programs.  I worked at a
> startup a few years ago that actively recruited co-ops from State.
> It's a good source of relatively inexpensive labor, and you can get
> some very motivated, bright people who want real experience. 

I wonder if the stagnating, but motivated, corporate, experienced group
is also a source of hidden potential.

If you'll excuse a personal example, I find myself learning Ruby and
other new tech 'on the side' doing open source or personal projects. 

Recently, however, I tried something new. I approached a relatively
small company, (which I happen to know a little about from friends that
work there), about doing a no-cost-no-deadline experimental ruby project
for much the same reasons a co-op would be willing to work
inexpensively, to gain experience without direct risk to the customer.
This allows the customer to experiment with Ruby and let's me make that
on-the-side off-time not only educational, but possibly worth a little
money. I'll let you know how it goes.

-- 
Rob Muhlestein
http://rob.muhlestein.net


From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Fri Jan  5 20:16:19 2007
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:16:19 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] geek shirt
Message-ID: <01147C32-5390-4BB1-8C25-5F2F91EF29AE@gmail.com>

For the truly geeky amongst us...

http://tinyurl.com/yza6a7

-Ryan

From tj at stank.us  Fri Jan  5 20:39:46 2007
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 20:39:46 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] geek shirt
In-Reply-To: <01147C32-5390-4BB1-8C25-5F2F91EF29AE@gmail.com>
References: <01147C32-5390-4BB1-8C25-5F2F91EF29AE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60701051739i25d3925cs6438ca19ca1a70f8@mail.gmail.com>

Now that is funny.

-TJ

On 1/5/07, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> For the truly geeky amongst us...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yza6a7
>
> -Ryan
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From minter at lunenburg.org  Sat Jan  6 08:41:35 2007
From: minter at lunenburg.org (H. Wade Minter)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 08:41:35 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] geek shirt
In-Reply-To: <01147C32-5390-4BB1-8C25-5F2F91EF29AE@gmail.com>
References: <01147C32-5390-4BB1-8C25-5F2F91EF29AE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <75C3081A-2C3D-4514-97BA-CF06F7775918@lunenburg.org>


On Jan 5, 2007, at 8:16 PM, Ryan Daigle wrote:

> For the truly geeky amongst us...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yza6a7

"I don't care who yew are, that's funny ra'thar."

--Wade


From rob at muhlestein.net  Sat Jan  6 12:15:26 2007
From: rob at muhlestein.net (Rob Muhlestein)
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 12:15:26 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] geek shirt
In-Reply-To: <f25a5bb60701051739i25d3925cs6438ca19ca1a70f8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <01147C32-5390-4BB1-8C25-5F2F91EF29AE@gmail.com>
	<f25a5bb60701051739i25d3925cs6438ca19ca1a70f8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1168103727.13391.99.camel@dads>

On Fri, 2007-01-05 at 20:39 -0500, TJ Stankus wrote:
> Now that is funny.
> 
> -TJ
> 
> On 1/5/07, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> > For the truly geeky amongst us...
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/yza6a7

It is, but would be even more so if webrick, the server I see most
commonly answering on that port, weren't vulnerable to a novice but very
effective DoS attack:

http://robmuhlestein.blogspot.com/2006/12/webrick-security-flaw.html

I need to get a patch submitted for that--especially now that matz has
added maxlen to gets/readline/etc. Anyone happen to know who is heading
up the webrick source commits? I have the tree and am on core list, but
don't see anyone stepping up to webrick.

I still wanna shirt though.
-- 
Rob Muhlestein
http://rob.muhlestein.net


From tj at stank.us  Sat Jan  6 13:22:31 2007
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 13:22:31 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] geek shirt
In-Reply-To: <1168103727.13391.99.camel@dads>
References: <01147C32-5390-4BB1-8C25-5F2F91EF29AE@gmail.com>
	<f25a5bb60701051739i25d3925cs6438ca19ca1a70f8@mail.gmail.com>
	<1168103727.13391.99.camel@dads>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60701061022o390d6913i4433c3567a214c80@mail.gmail.com>

mongrel runs on :3000 by default too. I recommend it over webrick for
development.

-TJ

On 1/6/07, Rob Muhlestein <rob at muhlestein.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-01-05 at 20:39 -0500, TJ Stankus wrote:
> > Now that is funny.
> >
> > -TJ
> >
> > On 1/5/07, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > For the truly geeky amongst us...
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/yza6a7
>
> It is, but would be even more so if webrick, the server I see most
> commonly answering on that port, weren't vulnerable to a novice but very
> effective DoS attack:
>
> http://robmuhlestein.blogspot.com/2006/12/webrick-security-flaw.html
>
> I need to get a patch submitted for that--especially now that matz has
> added maxlen to gets/readline/etc. Anyone happen to know who is heading
> up the webrick source commits? I have the tree and am on core list, but
> don't see anyone stepping up to webrick.
>
> I still wanna shirt though.
> --
> Rob Muhlestein
> http://rob.muhlestein.net
>
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From DLanouette at computer.org  Sun Jan  7 22:56:27 2007
From: DLanouette at computer.org (David Lanouette)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 22:56:27 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Local Hosting providers?
In-Reply-To: <f57b85d60701071953k15fe7e5jcb0dfb40f6f49a19@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f57b85d60701071953k15fe7e5jcb0dfb40f6f49a19@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f57b85d60701071956u59b2d4d6jf8ecc1052feda860@mail.gmail.com>

Does anybody have any recommendations for local hosting providers?

Initially we just want svn, trac and email.  But eventually, we hope to host
production sites (high bandwidth, lot's of concurrent users, sla's...)  We'd
like to find a company we can grow with and not have to switch later when we
go "live".

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.


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From pelargir at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 00:13:12 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 00:13:12 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Local Hosting providers?
In-Reply-To: <f57b85d60701071956u59b2d4d6jf8ecc1052feda860@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f57b85d60701071953k15fe7e5jcb0dfb40f6f49a19@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60701071956u59b2d4d6jf8ecc1052feda860@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c2eae3390701072113h7a723755n42420c3a8fa25b3c@mail.gmail.com>

David, I haven't had experience with any local hosting providers, but I've
been on TextDrive for over a year now and haven't have any complaints. Fair
warning, though... most of the Rails developers I know have had varying
levels of trouble with them. I suppose I just got lucky.

I've heard wonderful things about Slicehost. I'm on their waiting list,
though, so can't share my own experiences quite yet, but I'm planning on
deploying Teascript (www.teascript.com) there when I go live later this
year, assuming there are no show-stoppers once my account actually gets
activated.

I suppose it would be nice to have a local hosting provider to ease the
proverbial lighting of fires under the proverbial rear ends if something
goes wrong. Non-local services have always worked for me, though.

Matthew


On 1/7/07, David Lanouette <DLanouette at computer.org> wrote:
>
> Does anybody have any recommendations for local hosting providers?
>
> Initially we just want svn, trac and email.  But eventually, we hope to
> host production sites (high bandwidth, lot's of concurrent users, sla's...)
> We'd like to find a company we can grow with and not have to switch later
> when we go "live".
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> ______________________________
> - David Lanouette
> - DLanouette at Computer.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Mon Jan  8 08:47:06 2007
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 08:47:06 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Local Hosting providers?
In-Reply-To: <f57b85d60701071956u59b2d4d6jf8ecc1052feda860@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f57b85d60701071953k15fe7e5jcb0dfb40f6f49a19@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60701071956u59b2d4d6jf8ecc1052feda860@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9D37F5A8-34CE-4E13-A8C5-8A9AD24F1C76@geoffdavis.net>

I've been pretty happy with server4you.net

On Jan 7, 2007, at 10:56 PM, David Lanouette wrote:

> Does anybody have any recommendations for local hosting providers?
>
> Initially we just want svn, trac and email.  But eventually, we  
> hope to host production sites (high bandwidth, lot's of concurrent  
> users, sla's...)  We'd like to find a company we can grow with and  
> not have to switch later when we go "live".
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> ______________________________
> - David Lanouette
> - DLanouette at Computer.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

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From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Mon Jan  8 08:57:40 2007
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 08:57:40 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Local Hosting providers?
In-Reply-To: <9D37F5A8-34CE-4E13-A8C5-8A9AD24F1C76@geoffdavis.net>
References: <f57b85d60701071953k15fe7e5jcb0dfb40f6f49a19@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60701071956u59b2d4d6jf8ecc1052feda860@mail.gmail.com>
	<9D37F5A8-34CE-4E13-A8C5-8A9AD24F1C76@geoffdavis.net>
Message-ID: <6AD095FD-4BD8-45C3-AEC5-D519ACAB6ABE@geoffdavis.net>

Oh, whoops - they are not local.  But their tech support has always  
been responsive -- the only time they haven't responded within an  
hour was when my server crashed on Christmas eve.

On Jan 8, 2007, at 8:47 AM, Geoff Davis wrote:

> I've been pretty happy with server4you.net
>
> On Jan 7, 2007, at 10:56 PM, David Lanouette wrote:
>
>> Does anybody have any recommendations for local hosting providers?
>>
>> Initially we just want svn, trac and email.  But eventually, we  
>> hope to host production sites (high bandwidth, lot's of concurrent  
>> users, sla's...)  We'd like to find a company we can grow with and  
>> not have to switch later when we go "live".
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> ______________________________
>> - David Lanouette
>> - DLanouette at Computer.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From chris at coderhythm.com  Mon Jan  8 10:04:26 2007
From: chris at coderhythm.com (Chris O'Meara)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:04:26 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Local Hosting providers?
In-Reply-To: <f57b85d60701071956u59b2d4d6jf8ecc1052feda860@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f57b85d60701071953k15fe7e5jcb0dfb40f6f49a19@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60701071956u59b2d4d6jf8ecc1052feda860@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AF2089A8-CA93-4C3E-88E4-EEE5207D6A68@coderhythm.com>

I like SliceHost.  They're not local though.


On Jan 7, 2007, at 10:56 PM, David Lanouette wrote:

> Does anybody have any recommendations for local hosting providers?
>
> Initially we just want svn, trac and email.  But eventually, we  
> hope to host production sites (high bandwidth, lot's of concurrent  
> users, sla's...)  We'd like to find a company we can grow with and  
> not have to switch later when we go "live".
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> ______________________________
> - David Lanouette
> - DLanouette at Computer.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Mon Jan  8 10:26:40 2007
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:26:40 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] has_and_belongs_to_many cleanup
Message-ID: <110BE5E8-93FC-4D28-BB9B-06737DE8E5FD@geoffdavis.net>

I've got an object with a has_and_belongs_to_many association.  I  
just discovered that when I delete my object, the related entries in  
the join table are not deleted.

So for example, I have

class Foo << ActiveRecord::Base
   has_and_belongs_to_many :bar

The join table bars_foos has entries

foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2
foo_id: 2, bar_id: 2
foo_id: 2, bar_id: 3
...

When I delete the Foo object with id 1, I'm still left with the entries

foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2

in the join table.  Do I just need to add some kind of before_delete  
or after_delete method?  Or is there some option to  
has_and_belongs_to_many that I'm missing?



From pkristoff at acm.org  Mon Jan  8 10:33:41 2007
From: pkristoff at acm.org (pkristoff at acm.org)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:33:41 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] has_and_belongs_to_many cleanup
In-Reply-To: <110BE5E8-93FC-4D28-BB9B-06737DE8E5FD@geoffdavis.net>
Message-ID: <004801c7333a$5fe52140$1602a8c0@PaulsLaptopII>

Geoff, 

  Try adding "has_and_belongs_to_many :bar, :dependent => true".  I know it
works for has_many.

Paul Kristoff
214-598-9610
PKristoff at acm.org
www.PaulKristoff.com
 
-----Original Message-----
From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Davis
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:27 AM
To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
Subject: [raleigh.rb] has_and_belongs_to_many cleanup

I've got an object with a has_and_belongs_to_many association.  I  
just discovered that when I delete my object, the related entries in  
the join table are not deleted.

So for example, I have

class Foo << ActiveRecord::Base
   has_and_belongs_to_many :bar

The join table bars_foos has entries

foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2
foo_id: 2, bar_id: 2
foo_id: 2, bar_id: 3
...

When I delete the Foo object with id 1, I'm still left with the entries

foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2

in the join table.  Do I just need to add some kind of before_delete  
or after_delete method?  Or is there some option to  
has_and_belongs_to_many that I'm missing?


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From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 10:34:34 2007
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:34:34 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] has_and_belongs_to_many cleanup
In-Reply-To: <110BE5E8-93FC-4D28-BB9B-06737DE8E5FD@geoffdavis.net>
References: <110BE5E8-93FC-4D28-BB9B-06737DE8E5FD@geoffdavis.net>
Message-ID: <B07F48DD-5521-456A-B837-8A5DA9C02376@gmail.com>

How are you deleting the Foo object?  If you're calling foo.delete  
then that will only delete the row in the foo table, not any  
association tables.  If you're doing foo.destroy, however, that  
should work as it will clean up all associations for you...

-Ryan

On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Geoff Davis wrote:

I've got an object with a has_and_belongs_to_many association.  I
just discovered that when I delete my object, the related entries in
the join table are not deleted.

So for example, I have

class Foo << ActiveRecord::Base
    has_and_belongs_to_many :bar

The join table bars_foos has entries

foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2
foo_id: 2, bar_id: 2
foo_id: 2, bar_id: 3
...

When I delete the Foo object with id 1, I'm still left with the entries

foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2

in the join table.  Do I just need to add some kind of before_delete
or after_delete method?  Or is there some option to
has_and_belongs_to_many that I'm missing?


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From rdaigle at alterthought.com  Mon Jan  8 10:36:40 2007
From: rdaigle at alterthought.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:36:40 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] has_and_belongs_to_many cleanup
In-Reply-To: <004801c7333a$5fe52140$1602a8c0@PaulsLaptopII>
References: <004801c7333a$5fe52140$1602a8c0@PaulsLaptopII>
Message-ID: <CB1494BE-70DF-4597-9D45-A5323A47A478@alterthought.com>

The API docs don't show :dependent as an option for habtm though it's  
worth a try..

http://api.rubyonrails.com/classes/ActiveRecord/Associations/ 
ClassMethods.html#M000533

-Ryan

On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:33 AM, <pkristoff at acm.org> wrote:

Geoff,

   Try adding "has_and_belongs_to_many :bar, :dependent => true".  I  
know it
works for has_many.

Paul Kristoff
214-598-9610
PKristoff at acm.org
www.PaulKristoff.com

-----Original Message-----
From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Geoff  
Davis
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:27 AM
To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
Subject: [raleigh.rb] has_and_belongs_to_many cleanup

I've got an object with a has_and_belongs_to_many association.  I
just discovered that when I delete my object, the related entries in
the join table are not deleted.

So for example, I have

class Foo << ActiveRecord::Base
    has_and_belongs_to_many :bar

The join table bars_foos has entries

foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2
foo_id: 2, bar_id: 2
foo_id: 2, bar_id: 3
...

When I delete the Foo object with id 1, I'm still left with the entries

foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2

in the join table.  Do I just need to add some kind of before_delete
or after_delete method?  Or is there some option to
has_and_belongs_to_many that I'm missing?


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From tj at stank.us  Mon Jan  8 10:41:49 2007
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:41:49 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Local Hosting providers?
In-Reply-To: <f57b85d60701071956u59b2d4d6jf8ecc1052feda860@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f57b85d60701071953k15fe7e5jcb0dfb40f6f49a19@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60701071956u59b2d4d6jf8ecc1052feda860@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60701080741k6602a823w6e9407bf378e163d@mail.gmail.com>

I've been happy with Slicehost thus far, but the question I think you
need to ask yourself first is whether you want managed hosting or not.
That will be significantly more expensive, but if you're talking SLAs
and horizontal hardware growth potential, going with a company that
can scale that way from the outset may save you some hassle.

-TJ

On 1/7/07, David Lanouette <DLanouette at computer.org> wrote:
> Does anybody have any recommendations for local hosting providers?
>
> Initially we just want svn, trac and email.  But eventually, we hope to host
> production sites (high bandwidth, lot's of concurrent users, sla's...)  We'd
> like to find a company we can grow with and not have to switch later when we
> go "live".
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> ______________________________
> - David Lanouette
> - DLanouette at Computer.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>

From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Mon Jan  8 10:45:15 2007
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:45:15 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] has_and_belongs_to_many cleanup
In-Reply-To: <CB1494BE-70DF-4597-9D45-A5323A47A478@alterthought.com>
References: <004801c7333a$5fe52140$1602a8c0@PaulsLaptopII>
	<CB1494BE-70DF-4597-9D45-A5323A47A478@alterthought.com>
Message-ID: <D76A38B5-CABE-4651-81DB-CE2373DE6610@geoffdavis.net>

Yeah, I didn't see a :dependent option in the API.

D'oh -- you're right, I'm calling delete instead of destroy.

On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Ryan Daigle wrote:

> The API docs don't show :dependent as an option for habtm though it's
> worth a try..
>
> http://api.rubyonrails.com/classes/ActiveRecord/Associations/
> ClassMethods.html#M000533
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:33 AM, <pkristoff at acm.org> wrote:
>
> Geoff,
>
>    Try adding "has_and_belongs_to_many :bar, :dependent => true".  I
> know it
> works for has_many.
>
> Paul Kristoff
> 214-598-9610
> PKristoff at acm.org
> www.PaulKristoff.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org
> [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Geoff
> Davis
> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:27 AM
> To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
> Subject: [raleigh.rb] has_and_belongs_to_many cleanup
>
> I've got an object with a has_and_belongs_to_many association.  I
> just discovered that when I delete my object, the related entries in
> the join table are not deleted.
>
> So for example, I have
>
> class Foo << ActiveRecord::Base
>     has_and_belongs_to_many :bar
>
> The join table bars_foos has entries
>
> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2
> foo_id: 2, bar_id: 2
> foo_id: 2, bar_id: 3
> ...
>
> When I delete the Foo object with id 1, I'm still left with the  
> entries
>
> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2
>
> in the join table.  Do I just need to add some kind of before_delete
> or after_delete method?  Or is there some option to
> has_and_belongs_to_many that I'm missing?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>
>
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From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 10:55:26 2007
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:55:26 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] has_and_belongs_to_many cleanup
In-Reply-To: <D76A38B5-CABE-4651-81DB-CE2373DE6610@geoffdavis.net>
References: <004801c7333a$5fe52140$1602a8c0@PaulsLaptopII>
	<CB1494BE-70DF-4597-9D45-A5323A47A478@alterthought.com>
	<D76A38B5-CABE-4651-81DB-CE2373DE6610@geoffdavis.net>
Message-ID: <830926FF-D674-4E92-B5CA-B5286AC55F9E@gmail.com>

shame shame...

On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:45 AM, Geoff Davis wrote:

Yeah, I didn't see a :dependent option in the API.

D'oh -- you're right, I'm calling delete instead of destroy.

On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Ryan Daigle wrote:

> The API docs don't show :dependent as an option for habtm though it's
> worth a try..
>
> http://api.rubyonrails.com/classes/ActiveRecord/Associations/
> ClassMethods.html#M000533
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:33 AM, <pkristoff at acm.org> wrote:
>
> Geoff,
>
>    Try adding "has_and_belongs_to_many :bar, :dependent => true".  I
> know it
> works for has_many.
>
> Paul Kristoff
> 214-598-9610
> PKristoff at acm.org
> www.PaulKristoff.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org
> [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Geoff
> Davis
> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:27 AM
> To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
> Subject: [raleigh.rb] has_and_belongs_to_many cleanup
>
> I've got an object with a has_and_belongs_to_many association.  I
> just discovered that when I delete my object, the related entries in
> the join table are not deleted.
>
> So for example, I have
>
> class Foo << ActiveRecord::Base
>     has_and_belongs_to_many :bar
>
> The join table bars_foos has entries
>
> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2
> foo_id: 2, bar_id: 2
> foo_id: 2, bar_id: 3
> ...
>
> When I delete the Foo object with id 1, I'm still left with the
> entries
>
> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2
>
> in the join table.  Do I just need to add some kind of before_delete
> or after_delete method?  Or is there some option to
> has_and_belongs_to_many that I'm missing?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>
>
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From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Mon Jan  8 11:07:57 2007
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 11:07:57 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] has_and_belongs_to_many cleanup
In-Reply-To: <830926FF-D674-4E92-B5CA-B5286AC55F9E@gmail.com>
References: <004801c7333a$5fe52140$1602a8c0@PaulsLaptopII>
	<CB1494BE-70DF-4597-9D45-A5323A47A478@alterthought.com>
	<D76A38B5-CABE-4651-81DB-CE2373DE6610@geoffdavis.net>
	<830926FF-D674-4E92-B5CA-B5286AC55F9E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BFA50BE4-66F1-4998-8849-A5CD4F985B4B@geoffdavis.net>

/me hangs his head

On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:55 AM, Ryan Daigle wrote:

> shame shame...
>
> On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:45 AM, Geoff Davis wrote:
>
> Yeah, I didn't see a :dependent option in the API.
>
> D'oh -- you're right, I'm calling delete instead of destroy.
>
> On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Ryan Daigle wrote:
>
>> The API docs don't show :dependent as an option for habtm though it's
>> worth a try..
>>
>> http://api.rubyonrails.com/classes/ActiveRecord/Associations/
>> ClassMethods.html#M000533
>>
>> -Ryan
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:33 AM, <pkristoff at acm.org> wrote:
>>
>> Geoff,
>>
>>    Try adding "has_and_belongs_to_many :bar, :dependent => true".  I
>> know it
>> works for has_many.
>>
>> Paul Kristoff
>> 214-598-9610
>> PKristoff at acm.org
>> www.PaulKristoff.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org
>> [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Geoff
>> Davis
>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:27 AM
>> To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
>> Subject: [raleigh.rb] has_and_belongs_to_many cleanup
>>
>> I've got an object with a has_and_belongs_to_many association.  I
>> just discovered that when I delete my object, the related entries in
>> the join table are not deleted.
>>
>> So for example, I have
>>
>> class Foo << ActiveRecord::Base
>>     has_and_belongs_to_many :bar
>>
>> The join table bars_foos has entries
>>
>> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
>> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2
>> foo_id: 2, bar_id: 2
>> foo_id: 2, bar_id: 3
>> ...
>>
>> When I delete the Foo object with id 1, I'm still left with the
>> entries
>>
>> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
>> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2
>>
>> in the join table.  Do I just need to add some kind of before_delete
>> or after_delete method?  Or is there some option to
>> has_and_belongs_to_many that I'm missing?
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>>
>>
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From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Mon Jan  8 12:58:41 2007
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:58:41 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Lightning Talk Night
Message-ID: <70F39DBC-1C7D-494A-9E97-60127D543B48@talbott.ws>

To kick off the year at our first meeting, we're going to do  
lightning talks. This means you can grab the limelight for five  
minutes to expound on whatever topic strikes your fancy (so long as  
it fits in five minutes). While I already have a few slotted, there's  
plenty of room for everyone, so please just reply here with what  
you'd like to talk about and I'll sort it out in to a schedule.

Can't wait,


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott

<:((><



From adam at thewilliams.ws  Mon Jan  8 13:21:12 2007
From: adam at thewilliams.ws (Adam Williams)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:21:12 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] has_and_belongs_to_many cleanup
In-Reply-To: <BFA50BE4-66F1-4998-8849-A5CD4F985B4B@geoffdavis.net>
References: <004801c7333a$5fe52140$1602a8c0@PaulsLaptopII>
	<CB1494BE-70DF-4597-9D45-A5323A47A478@alterthought.com>
	<D76A38B5-CABE-4651-81DB-CE2373DE6610@geoffdavis.net>
	<830926FF-D674-4E92-B5CA-B5286AC55F9E@gmail.com>
	<BFA50BE4-66F1-4998-8849-A5CD4F985B4B@geoffdavis.net>
Message-ID: <F8FB8DEA-582C-400D-BCA1-8EC4B297F329@thewilliams.ws>

And for coolness points, avoid has_and_belongs_to_many in favor of  
has_many :somethings; has_many :bars, :through => :somethings.

Just wanted my name on the trail ;)

  aiwilliams

On Jan 8, 2007, at 11:07 AM, Geoff Davis wrote:

> /me hangs his head
>
> On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:55 AM, Ryan Daigle wrote:
>
>> shame shame...
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:45 AM, Geoff Davis wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I didn't see a :dependent option in the API.
>>
>> D'oh -- you're right, I'm calling delete instead of destroy.
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Ryan Daigle wrote:
>>
>>> The API docs don't show :dependent as an option for habtm though  
>>> it's
>>> worth a try..
>>>
>>> http://api.rubyonrails.com/classes/ActiveRecord/Associations/
>>> ClassMethods.html#M000533
>>>
>>> -Ryan
>>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:33 AM, <pkristoff at acm.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Geoff,
>>>
>>>    Try adding "has_and_belongs_to_many :bar, :dependent => true".  I
>>> know it
>>> works for has_many.
>>>
>>> Paul Kristoff
>>> 214-598-9610
>>> PKristoff at acm.org
>>> www.PaulKristoff.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org
>>> [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Geoff
>>> Davis
>>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:27 AM
>>> To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
>>> Subject: [raleigh.rb] has_and_belongs_to_many cleanup
>>>
>>> I've got an object with a has_and_belongs_to_many association.  I
>>> just discovered that when I delete my object, the related entries in
>>> the join table are not deleted.
>>>
>>> So for example, I have
>>>
>>> class Foo << ActiveRecord::Base
>>>     has_and_belongs_to_many :bar
>>>
>>> The join table bars_foos has entries
>>>
>>> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
>>> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2
>>> foo_id: 2, bar_id: 2
>>> foo_id: 2, bar_id: 3
>>> ...
>>>
>>> When I delete the Foo object with id 1, I'm still left with the
>>> entries
>>>
>>> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
>>> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2
>>>
>>> in the join table.  Do I just need to add some kind of before_delete
>>> or after_delete method?  Or is there some option to
>>> has_and_belongs_to_many that I'm missing?
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Mon Jan  8 13:37:12 2007
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:37:12 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] has_and_belongs_to_many cleanup
In-Reply-To: <F8FB8DEA-582C-400D-BCA1-8EC4B297F329@thewilliams.ws>
References: <004801c7333a$5fe52140$1602a8c0@PaulsLaptopII>
	<CB1494BE-70DF-4597-9D45-A5323A47A478@alterthought.com>
	<D76A38B5-CABE-4651-81DB-CE2373DE6610@geoffdavis.net>
	<830926FF-D674-4E92-B5CA-B5286AC55F9E@gmail.com>
	<BFA50BE4-66F1-4998-8849-A5CD4F985B4B@geoffdavis.net>
	<F8FB8DEA-582C-400D-BCA1-8EC4B297F329@thewilliams.ws>
Message-ID: <90B07D9D-8342-49DA-A94E-87C493320B29@geoffdavis.net>

Coolness points aside, is has_many through the preferred alternative  
to habtm?  Is habtm deprecated in 1.2?

On Jan 8, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Adam Williams wrote:

> And for coolness points, avoid has_and_belongs_to_many in favor of
> has_many :somethings; has_many :bars, :through => :somethings.
>
> Just wanted my name on the trail ;)
>
>   aiwilliams
>
> On Jan 8, 2007, at 11:07 AM, Geoff Davis wrote:
>
>> /me hangs his head
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:55 AM, Ryan Daigle wrote:
>>
>>> shame shame...
>>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:45 AM, Geoff Davis wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, I didn't see a :dependent option in the API.
>>>
>>> D'oh -- you're right, I'm calling delete instead of destroy.
>>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Ryan Daigle wrote:
>>>
>>>> The API docs don't show :dependent as an option for habtm though
>>>> it's
>>>> worth a try..
>>>>
>>>> http://api.rubyonrails.com/classes/ActiveRecord/Associations/
>>>> ClassMethods.html#M000533
>>>>
>>>> -Ryan
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:33 AM, <pkristoff at acm.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Geoff,
>>>>
>>>>    Try adding "has_and_belongs_to_many :bar, :dependent =>  
>>>> true".  I
>>>> know it
>>>> works for has_many.
>>>>
>>>> Paul Kristoff
>>>> 214-598-9610
>>>> PKristoff at acm.org
>>>> www.PaulKristoff.com
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org
>>>> [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of  
>>>> Geoff
>>>> Davis
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:27 AM
>>>> To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
>>>> Subject: [raleigh.rb] has_and_belongs_to_many cleanup
>>>>
>>>> I've got an object with a has_and_belongs_to_many association.  I
>>>> just discovered that when I delete my object, the related  
>>>> entries in
>>>> the join table are not deleted.
>>>>
>>>> So for example, I have
>>>>
>>>> class Foo << ActiveRecord::Base
>>>>     has_and_belongs_to_many :bar
>>>>
>>>> The join table bars_foos has entries
>>>>
>>>> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
>>>> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2
>>>> foo_id: 2, bar_id: 2
>>>> foo_id: 2, bar_id: 3
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> When I delete the Foo object with id 1, I'm still left with the
>>>> entries
>>>>
>>>> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 1
>>>> foo_id: 1, bar_id: 2
>>>>
>>>> in the join table.  Do I just need to add some kind of  
>>>> before_delete
>>>> or after_delete method?  Or is there some option to
>>>> has_and_belongs_to_many that I'm missing?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>>> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date:
>>>> 1/7/2007
>>>> 6:29 PM
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
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From adam at thewilliams.ws  Mon Jan  8 13:45:07 2007
From: adam at thewilliams.ws (Adam Williams)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:45:07 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] has_and_belongs_to_many cleanup
In-Reply-To: <90B07D9D-8342-49DA-A94E-87C493320B29@geoffdavis.net>
References: <004801c7333a$5fe52140$1602a8c0@PaulsLaptopII>
	<CB1494BE-70DF-4597-9D45-A5323A47A478@alterthought.com>
	<D76A38B5-CABE-4651-81DB-CE2373DE6610@geoffdavis.net>
	<830926FF-D674-4E92-B5CA-B5286AC55F9E@gmail.com>
	<BFA50BE4-66F1-4998-8849-A5CD4F985B4B@geoffdavis.net>
	<F8FB8DEA-582C-400D-BCA1-8EC4B297F329@thewilliams.ws>
	<90B07D9D-8342-49DA-A94E-87C493320B29@geoffdavis.net>
Message-ID: <651271BB-E034-4CE3-B3C2-42B05109784A@thewilliams.ws>

On Jan 8, 2007, at 1:37 PM, Geoff Davis wrote:

> Coolness points aside, is has_many through the preferred alternative
> to habtm?  Is habtm deprecated in 1.2?

It is not deprecated, though some of it's features are  
(push_with_attributes, for example), thanks to has_many :through. I  
have heard that it is preferred, though I wonder if the  
has_many :through with no attributes on the join model is yagni. It  
can be hard to come up with a name for that thing...

  aiwilliams


From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Mon Jan  8 13:57:00 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:57:00 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Local Hosting providers?
In-Reply-To: <AF2089A8-CA93-4C3E-88E4-EEE5207D6A68@coderhythm.com>
References: <f57b85d60701071953k15fe7e5jcb0dfb40f6f49a19@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60701071956u59b2d4d6jf8ecc1052feda860@mail.gmail.com>
	<AF2089A8-CA93-4C3E-88E4-EEE5207D6A68@coderhythm.com>
Message-ID: <305A2FD7-ABC0-4BF0-863C-E4F83065B7F1@nc.rr.com>

I'm looking at SliceHost... you have to be your own sysadmin, to the  
point of installing your own firewall... I'm not sure that's what I'd  
want to do, but their packages are very competitive.

Jared
http://JaredRichardson.net


On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Chris O'Meara wrote:

> I like SliceHost.  They're not local though.
>
>


From moonshark413 at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  8 16:14:59 2007
From: moonshark413 at yahoo.com (P.D.S.)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:14:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] making a new capistrano task...
Message-ID: <307183.83986.qm@web54614.mail.yahoo.com>

I am trying to make a new capistrano task, to setup some persistent
data folders (my project manages the inputs and outputs to a cli app)
and give them the proper permissions. (This project runs on 6 servers
in 3 different countries, so I don't want to do it manually every time
I deploy)

Anyway, I've made a new task in my deploy.rb and then called if from
the existing after_deploy task. It is triggered OK - so far, so good...


  path_list.each do |the_path|
    if !(File.exist?(the_path)) then
      sudo "mkdir #{the_path}"
    end
  end

The problem seems to be that I can't write conditionals against the
remote server. When I invoke rake remote:deploy... the File.exist?
command is executed on the LOCAL machine, and my mkdir does not fire

I have looked at the capistrano manual
("http://manuals.rubyonrails.com/read/chapter/97") but it doesn't seem
to address my need. Am I trying to do something that strange? 

-PDS

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From moonshark413 at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  8 16:38:14 2007
From: moonshark413 at yahoo.com (P.D.S.)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:38:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] making a new capistrano task...
In-Reply-To: <307183.83986.qm@web54614.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <825961.31358.qm@web54603.mail.yahoo.com>

Still digging and it looks like other people are using the expedient
"run" method to execute un-ruby shell commands, like so : 

  run "if [ ! -d path/to/file ]; then mkdir -p path/to/file; fi"

Most of what I am finding is pretty old and does not seem very
authoritative...

-PDS

--- "P.D.S." <moonshark413 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am trying to make a new capistrano task, to setup some persistent
> data folders (my project manages the inputs and outputs to a cli app)
> and give them the proper permissions. (This project runs on 6 servers
> in 3 different countries, so I don't want to do it manually every
> time
> I deploy)
> 
> Anyway, I've made a new task in my deploy.rb and then called if from
> the existing after_deploy task. It is triggered OK - so far, so
> good...
> 
> 
>   path_list.each do |the_path|
>     if !(File.exist?(the_path)) then
>       sudo "mkdir #{the_path}"
>     end
>   end
> 
> The problem seems to be that I can't write conditionals against the
> remote server. When I invoke rake remote:deploy... the File.exist?
> command is executed on the LOCAL machine, and my mkdir does not fire
> 
> I have looked at the capistrano manual
> ("http://manuals.rubyonrails.com/read/chapter/97") but it doesn't
> seem
> to address my need. Am I trying to do something that strange? 
> 
> -PDS


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From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 16:37:56 2007
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:37:56 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] making a new capistrano task...
In-Reply-To: <307183.83986.qm@web54614.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <307183.83986.qm@web54614.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3BC6ED4D-22C7-4DEA-8B23-D0D11E31162A@gmail.com>

Hmm, I'm sure it's possible to send Ruby commands to a remote server,  
but I've only ever seen shell commands sent to remote servers with:

run "mkdir #{the_path}"

Can you phrase your commands in the form of a shell script?

run "if [-x #{the_path}] mkdir #{the_path} fi"

(I know this doesn't work - but you get the point..?)

-Ryan

On Jan 8, 2007, at 4:14 PM, P.D.S. wrote:

I am trying to make a new capistrano task, to setup some persistent
data folders (my project manages the inputs and outputs to a cli app)
and give them the proper permissions. (This project runs on 6 servers
in 3 different countries, so I don't want to do it manually every time
I deploy)

Anyway, I've made a new task in my deploy.rb and then called if from
the existing after_deploy task. It is triggered OK - so far, so good...


   path_list.each do |the_path|
     if !(File.exist?(the_path)) then
       sudo "mkdir #{the_path}"
     end
   end

The problem seems to be that I can't write conditionals against the
remote server. When I invoke rake remote:deploy... the File.exist?
command is executed on the LOCAL machine, and my mkdir does not fire

I have looked at the capistrano manual
("http://manuals.rubyonrails.com/read/chapter/97") but it doesn't seem
to address my need. Am I trying to do something that strange?

-PDS

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From DLanouette at computer.org  Mon Jan  8 18:59:45 2007
From: DLanouette at computer.org (David Lanouette)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:59:45 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Local Hosting providers?
In-Reply-To: <305A2FD7-ABC0-4BF0-863C-E4F83065B7F1@nc.rr.com>
References: <f57b85d60701071953k15fe7e5jcb0dfb40f6f49a19@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60701071956u59b2d4d6jf8ecc1052feda860@mail.gmail.com>
	<AF2089A8-CA93-4C3E-88E4-EEE5207D6A68@coderhythm.com>
	<305A2FD7-ABC0-4BF0-863C-E4F83065B7F1@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <f57b85d60701081559j29715d04j6d20655b8c37d5c3@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks everybody for your input.

Looks like there are a lot of good hosting providers locally.  Oh well...
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From z at zworkbench.com  Wed Jan 10 05:31:48 2007
From: z at zworkbench.com (Chris Garrett)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 10:31:48 +0000
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ruby for Symbian OS
Message-ID: <82883b650701100231h20b40fceuea5700c748295e4@mail.gmail.com>

I've been waiting for this -

http://developer.symbian.com/main/tools/opensrc/ruby/index.jsp

Chris
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From jjeffers at nc.rr.com  Wed Jan 10 06:25:31 2007
From: jjeffers at nc.rr.com (James Jeffers)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 06:25:31 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Multiple scaffolds in the same controller?
In-Reply-To: <82883b650701100231h20b40fceuea5700c748295e4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <82883b650701100231h20b40fceuea5700c748295e4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1168428331.9159.12.camel@localhost>

Is it possible to use the scaffold generator to make multiple static
scaffolds for different models in the same controller?

For example I see this as an example:

ruby script/generate scaffold product admin

>From this I see it generates the views for CRUDing the Products.

If I again use the generator...

ruby script/generate scaffold someotherthing admin

the generator will again try to write out similarly named views in the
same controller. Is there an easier way to do this?

Thanks in advance, 
James


From mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com  Wed Jan 10 08:41:06 2007
From: mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com (Mark Bennett)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:41:06 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Multiple scaffolds in the same controller?
In-Reply-To: <1168428331.9159.12.camel@localhost>
References: <82883b650701100231h20b40fceuea5700c748295e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<1168428331.9159.12.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <b2e941150701100541k6a0ea3d1n7c96f4dbca1591fd@mail.gmail.com>

I really don't think so.  I thought I wanted this capability before as well,
but now I think if that if two models have close interaction then the
scaffolding is useless in either form.

Mark

On 1/10/07, James Jeffers <jjeffers at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Is it possible to use the scaffold generator to make multiple static
> scaffolds for different models in the same controller?
>
> For example I see this as an example:
>
> ruby script/generate scaffold product admin
>
> >From this I see it generates the views for CRUDing the Products.
>
> If I again use the generator...
>
> ruby script/generate scaffold someotherthing admin
>
> the generator will again try to write out similarly named views in the
> same controller. Is there an easier way to do this?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> James
>
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From blake at near-time.com  Fri Jan 12 18:37:38 2007
From: blake at near-time.com (Blake Watters)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:37:38 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] making a new capistrano task...
In-Reply-To: <825961.31358.qm@web54603.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <825961.31358.qm@web54603.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2A1708D4-7704-4337-ADCE-DEAC6414CAF9@near-time.com>

What I typically do in these situations is create a new rake task  
that performs the action and ensure it works locally. Then I invoke  
the rake task from within the capistrano task:

task :some_task do
   run "cd #{directory} && rake setup:something_interesting"
end

Then you can stay comfortable in Ruby land and get full reuse of your  
tasks for local development or administration later on.

Cheers,
Blake

On Jan 8, 2007, at 4:38 PM, P.D.S. wrote:

> Still digging and it looks like other people are using the expedient
> "run" method to execute un-ruby shell commands, like so :
>
>   run "if [ ! -d path/to/file ]; then mkdir -p path/to/file; fi"
>
> Most of what I am finding is pretty old and does not seem very
> authoritative...
>
> -PDS
>
> --- "P.D.S." <moonshark413 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I am trying to make a new capistrano task, to setup some persistent
>> data folders (my project manages the inputs and outputs to a cli app)
>> and give them the proper permissions. (This project runs on 6 servers
>> in 3 different countries, so I don't want to do it manually every
>> time
>> I deploy)
>>
>> Anyway, I've made a new task in my deploy.rb and then called if from
>> the existing after_deploy task. It is triggered OK - so far, so
>> good...
>>
>>
>>   path_list.each do |the_path|
>>     if !(File.exist?(the_path)) then
>>       sudo "mkdir #{the_path}"
>>     end
>>   end
>>
>> The problem seems to be that I can't write conditionals against the
>> remote server. When I invoke rake remote:deploy... the File.exist?
>> command is executed on the LOCAL machine, and my mkdir does not fire
>>
>> I have looked at the capistrano manual
>> ("http://manuals.rubyonrails.com/read/chapter/97") but it doesn't
>> seem
>> to address my need. Am I trying to do something that strange?
>>
>> -PDS
>
>
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From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Mon Jan 15 17:29:02 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:29:02 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ruby db connection pooling?
In-Reply-To: <2A1708D4-7704-4337-ADCE-DEAC6414CAF9@near-time.com>
References: <825961.31358.qm@web54603.mail.yahoo.com>
	<2A1708D4-7704-4337-ADCE-DEAC6414CAF9@near-time.com>
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Hi all,

I'm trying to research connection pooling in Rails. Specifically to a  
Mysql master/slave set up where (we hope) the reads hit the slave but  
writes hit the master.

I wrote this exact bit in Java a few years ago but preliminary  
searches don't seem to show the same tech for Ruby yet.

Any hints? TIA

Jared
http://JaredRichardson.net



From blake at near-time.com  Mon Jan 15 17:42:05 2007
From: blake at near-time.com (Blake Watters)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:42:05 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ruby db connection pooling?
In-Reply-To: <6FBD13FB-3FDC-4DB2-9827-800C7AF8A21C@nc.rr.com>
References: <825961.31358.qm@web54603.mail.yahoo.com>
	<2A1708D4-7704-4337-ADCE-DEAC6414CAF9@near-time.com>
	<6FBD13FB-3FDC-4DB2-9827-800C7AF8A21C@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <0333F742-262E-40BC-9FAC-D941D6E8CFFC@near-time.com>

I think you'll have to override the default connection pooling  
behavior. There is no distinction made on the read/write case, only  
on the class of the model. The inheritance hierarchy is then  
traversed upward toward ActiveRecord::Base, searching for a  
connection keyed on the class.

There is a class variable called @@defined_connections which is just  
a hash indexed by class name. I imagine you'd need to add another  
dimension to the hash, with :read and :write as keys pointing toward  
connections and then massage the AR primitives (find, save, etc) to  
grab the appropriate hash.

You could probably do this as a plugin with severe patches into  
ActiveRecord::Base, but it will be serious surgery and may be painful  
to maintain... you might want to see if core would accept a patch  
implementing the feature and poke them for hints on test cases they'd  
want to see.

With 1.2 imminently shipping, its probably a good time to be working  
on such a feature as there will be a new release cycle opening up and  
patches will start flowing again.

Cheers,
Blake

On Jan 15, 2007, at 5:29 PM, Jared Richardson wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm trying to research connection pooling in Rails. Specifically to a
> Mysql master/slave set up where (we hope) the reads hit the slave but
> writes hit the master.
>
> I wrote this exact bit in Java a few years ago but preliminary
> searches don't seem to show the same tech for Ruby yet.
>
> Any hints? TIA
>
> Jared
> http://JaredRichardson.net
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> 
>
>


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From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Tue Jan 16 10:37:49 2007
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:37:49 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
Message-ID: <51A3DBD5-C89E-4D8A-ADA7-AC904CF8BF83@talbott.ws>

As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30  
tonight at Baja Burrito (http://rubyurl.com/CGF) to grab dinner and  
some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.

While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email  
with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.

Looking forward to it,


--
Nathaniel Talbott

<:((><


From rdaigle at alterthought.com  Tue Jan 16 10:44:05 2007
From: rdaigle at alterthought.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:44:05 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <51A3DBD5-C89E-4D8A-ADA7-AC904CF8BF83@talbott.ws>
References: <51A3DBD5-C89E-4D8A-ADA7-AC904CF8BF83@talbott.ws>
Message-ID: <244184F8-B481-4B62-AE82-9D417E213901@alterthought.com>

so there

On Jan 16, 2007, at 10:37 AM, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:

As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30
tonight at Baja Burrito (http://rubyurl.com/CGF) to grab dinner and
some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.

While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.

Looking forward to it,


--
Nathaniel Talbott

<:((><

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From tj at stank.us  Tue Jan 16 11:53:05 2007
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:53:05 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <51A3DBD5-C89E-4D8A-ADA7-AC904CF8BF83@talbott.ws>
References: <51A3DBD5-C89E-4D8A-ADA7-AC904CF8BF83@talbott.ws>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60701160853r2ae61f23t976f5639c95684b@mail.gmail.com>

It'll be a game-time decision for me.

And it must be a raleigh.rb meetup day because it's raining. :)

-TJ

On 1/16/07, Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:
> As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30
> tonight at Baja Burrito (http://rubyurl.com/CGF) to grab dinner and
> some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.
>
> While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
>
> Looking forward to it,
>
>
> --
> Nathaniel Talbott
>
> <:((><
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com  Tue Jan 16 12:49:22 2007
From: mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com (Mark Bennett)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:49:22 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <f25a5bb60701160853r2ae61f23t976f5639c95684b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51A3DBD5-C89E-4D8A-ADA7-AC904CF8BF83@talbott.ws>
	<f25a5bb60701160853r2ae61f23t976f5639c95684b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b2e941150701160949n51d53d76re24b05fdd876b520@mail.gmail.com>

yes, i'd say a very high correlation.

On 1/16/07, TJ Stankus <tj at stank.us> wrote:
>
> It'll be a game-time decision for me.
>
> And it must be a raleigh.rb meetup day because it's raining. :)
>
> -TJ
>
> On 1/16/07, Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:
> > As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30
> > tonight at Baja Burrito (http://rubyurl.com/CGF) to grab dinner and
> > some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.
> >
> > While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> > with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
> >
> > Looking forward to it,
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nathaniel Talbott
> >
> > <:((><
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
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From kevin.olbrich at gmail.com  Tue Jan 16 12:58:58 2007
From: kevin.olbrich at gmail.com (Kevin Olbrich)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:58:58 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <b2e941150701160949n51d53d76re24b05fdd876b520@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51A3DBD5-C89E-4D8A-ADA7-AC904CF8BF83@talbott.ws>
	<f25a5bb60701160853r2ae61f23t976f5639c95684b@mail.gmail.com>
	<b2e941150701160949n51d53d76re24b05fdd876b520@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b84fa5050701160958n2fbf9da0k5c4e6f72688f141f@mail.gmail.com>

For some reason it always rains on our brigade.

_Kevin

On 1/16/07, Mark Bennett <mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> yes, i'd say a very high correlation.
>
> On 1/16/07, TJ Stankus <tj at stank.us> wrote:
> >
> > It'll be a game-time decision for me.
> >
> > And it must be a raleigh.rb meetup day because it's raining. :)
> >
> > -TJ
> >
> > On 1/16/07, Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel at talbott.ws > wrote:
> > > As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30
> > > tonight at Baja Burrito (http://rubyurl.com/CGF) to grab dinner and
> > > some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.
> > >
> > > While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> > > with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to it,
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Nathaniel Talbott
> > >
> > > <:((><
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
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From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Tue Jan 16 13:09:34 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:09:34 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ruby db connection pooling?
In-Reply-To: <0333F742-262E-40BC-9FAC-D941D6E8CFFC@near-time.com>
References: <825961.31358.qm@web54603.mail.yahoo.com>
	<2A1708D4-7704-4337-ADCE-DEAC6414CAF9@near-time.com>
	<6FBD13FB-3FDC-4DB2-9827-800C7AF8A21C@nc.rr.com>
	<0333F742-262E-40BC-9FAC-D941D6E8CFFC@near-time.com>
Message-ID: <5D1F3BFA-2FA9-446E-8B97-53F81765FA3D@nc.rr.com>

Thanks! Great direction and strategy.

After digging in a bit on the client's actual problems, I think I'm  
going to add a second connection in the config and then start  
manually moving slow read queries to use the second database. They  
have tons of hand crafted SQL they run and I'd have to regex every  
one of them to determine read/write... I can certainly do that but it  
would also be 'slow' (relatively speaking) and impact the gains they  
made with by using SQL.

Jared
http://JaredRichardson.net


On Jan 15, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Blake Watters wrote:

> I think you'll have to override the default connection pooling
> behavior. There is no distinction made on the read/write case, only
> on the class of the model. The inheritance hierarchy is then
> traversed upward toward ActiveRecord::Base, searching for a
> connection keyed on the class.
>
> There is a class variable called @@defined_connections which is just
> a hash indexed by class name. I imagine you'd need to add another
> dimension to the hash, with :read and :write as keys pointing toward
> connections and then massage the AR primitives (find, save, etc) to
> grab the appropriate hash.
>
> You could probably do this as a plugin with severe patches into
> ActiveRecord::Base, but it will be serious surgery and may be painful
> to maintain... you might want to see if core would accept a patch
> implementing the feature and poke them for hints on test cases they'd
> want to see.
>
> With 1.2 imminently shipping, its probably a good time to be working
> on such a feature as there will be a new release cycle opening up and
> patches will start flowing again.
>
> Cheers,
> Blake
>
> On Jan 15, 2007, at 5:29 PM, Jared Richardson wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm trying to research connection pooling in Rails. Specifically to a
>> Mysql master/slave set up where (we hope) the reads hit the slave but
>> writes hit the master.
>>
>> I wrote this exact bit in Java a few years ago but preliminary
>> searches don't seem to show the same tech for Ruby yet.
>>
>> Any hints? TIA
>>
>> Jared
>> http://JaredRichardson.net
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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From larry.karnowski at gmail.com  Tue Jan 16 13:25:51 2007
From: larry.karnowski at gmail.com (Larry Karnowski)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:25:51 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <b84fa5050701160958n2fbf9da0k5c4e6f72688f141f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <51A3DBD5-C89E-4D8A-ADA7-AC904CF8BF83@talbott.ws>
	<f25a5bb60701160853r2ae61f23t976f5639c95684b@mail.gmail.com>
	<b2e941150701160949n51d53d76re24b05fdd876b520@mail.gmail.com>
	<b84fa5050701160958n2fbf9da0k5c4e6f72688f141f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2b27183e0701161025k1d6d5762s2c08ce05611b2060@mail.gmail.com>

I'm in.

On 1/16/07, Kevin Olbrich <kevin.olbrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> For some reason it always rains on our brigade.
>
> _Kevin
>
>
> On 1/16/07, Mark Bennett <mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com > wrote:
> > yes, i'd say a very high correlation.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/16/07, TJ Stankus <tj at stank.us> wrote:
> > > It'll be a game-time decision for me.
> > >
> > > And it must be a raleigh.rb meetup day because it's raining. :)
> > >
> > > -TJ
> > >
> > > On 1/16/07, Nathaniel Talbott < nathaniel at talbott.ws > wrote:
> > > > As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30
> > > > tonight at Baja Burrito ( http://rubyurl.com/CGF) to grab dinner and
> > > > some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting.
> > > >
> > > > While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> > > > with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
> > > >
> > > > Looking forward to it,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nathaniel Talbott
> > > >
> > > > <:((><
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > > >
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > >
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Kevin Olbrich
> kevin.olbrich at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>

From dsnider at objectdomain.com  Tue Jan 16 12:14:15 2007
From: dsnider at objectdomain.com (Dan Snider)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:14:15 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <51A3DBD5-C89E-4D8A-ADA7-AC904CF8BF83@talbott.ws>
Message-ID: <013601c73991$c1fd42b0$0660a8c0@Newton>

sounds good

> -----Original Message-----

> As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 
> 5:30 tonight at Baja Burrito (http://rubyurl.com/CGF) to grab 
> dinner and some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat 
> for the meeting.
> 
> While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this 
> email with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
> 
> Looking forward to it,
> 
> 
> --
> Nathaniel Talbott


From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Tue Jan 16 21:16:49 2007
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:16:49 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Raleigh.rb del.icio.us feed
Message-ID: <9D0E9DFB-68E3-4625-AE62-76AA0FF4243C@gmail.com>

Geoff, Chris and I were talking on the way out about how useful the  
lightening talks are because they give you a quick pointer to topics  
that you can then further dig into depending on your level of  
interest - much like bookmarks...  One thing led to another and we  
thought that setting up our own Raleigh.rb del.icio.us feed would be  
a great way to share those Ruby nuggets we all find in our daily  
browsing.  So, here's the deal:

* When you bookmark something to your own del.icio.us account that  
you think would be pertinent and useful to raleigh.rb - tag it with  
"for:raleigh.rb"
* Everybody who wants to see what fellow raleigh.rb-ers are  
bookmarking can subscribe to this RSS feed: http:// 
feeds.feedburner.com/raleighrb_delicious and see those bookmarks

This differs from subscribing to each individual member's feed  
because there's still a lot noise that we all have in our own  
bookmarks that doesn't relate to ruby.  This takes a conscious effort  
by the bookmarker to denote that we raleigh.rb-ers would find it useful.

So.. subscribe to http://feeds.feedburner.com/raleighrb_delicious and  
make sure to tag your ruby bookmarks with "for:raleigh.rb" where  
appropriate.

-Ryan Daigle
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From tj at stank.us  Tue Jan 16 21:20:34 2007
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:20:34 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Raleigh.rb del.icio.us feed
In-Reply-To: <9D0E9DFB-68E3-4625-AE62-76AA0FF4243C@gmail.com>
References: <9D0E9DFB-68E3-4625-AE62-76AA0FF4243C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60701161820j4f78a829y6d97d963a7afbee2@mail.gmail.com>

Great idea.

On 1/16/07, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> Geoff, Chris and I were talking on the way out about how useful the
> lightening talks are because they give you a quick pointer to topics that
> you can then further dig into depending on your level of interest - much
> like bookmarks...  One thing led to another and we thought that setting up
> our own Raleigh.rb del.icio.us feed would be a great way to share those Ruby
> nuggets we all find in our daily browsing.  So, here's the deal:
>
> * When you bookmark something to your own del.icio.us account that you think
> would be pertinent and useful to raleigh.rb - tag it with "for:raleigh.rb"
> * Everybody who wants to see what fellow raleigh.rb-ers are bookmarking can
> subscribe to this RSS feed:
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/raleighrb_delicious and see
> those bookmarks
>
> This differs from subscribing to each individual member's feed because
> there's still a lot noise that we all have in our own bookmarks that doesn't
> relate to ruby.  This takes a conscious effort by the bookmarker to denote
> that we raleigh.rb-ers would find it useful.
>
> So.. subscribe to
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/raleighrb_delicious and make
> sure to tag your ruby bookmarks with "for:raleigh.rb" where appropriate.
>
> -Ryan Daigle
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>

From kevin.olbrich at gmail.com  Tue Jan 16 22:35:36 2007
From: kevin.olbrich at gmail.com (Kevin Olbrich)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:35:36 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Raleigh.rb del.icio.us feed
In-Reply-To: <f25a5bb60701161820j4f78a829y6d97d963a7afbee2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9D0E9DFB-68E3-4625-AE62-76AA0FF4243C@gmail.com>
	<f25a5bb60701161820j4f78a829y6d97d963a7afbee2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b84fa5050701161935q3df1c789l390be9bc8d258bbd@mail.gmail.com>

I see one minor problem with this scheme.  The only way to look at the list
is through the RSS feed.

Now if some enterprising person were to write a cron script that
automatically posted links marked with 'for:raleigh.rb' back to the '
raleigh.rb' user with the same tags (minus the 'for:raleigh.rb' of course),
then there would always be a list of links for all to see.

_Kevin

On 1/16/07, TJ Stankus <tj at stank.us> wrote:
>
> Great idea.
>
> On 1/16/07, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Geoff, Chris and I were talking on the way out about how useful the
> > lightening talks are because they give you a quick pointer to topics
> that
> > you can then further dig into depending on your level of interest - much
> > like bookmarks...  One thing led to another and we thought that setting
> up
> > our own Raleigh.rb del.icio.us feed would be a great way to share those
> Ruby
> > nuggets we all find in our daily browsing.  So, here's the deal:
> >
> > * When you bookmark something to your own del.icio.us account that you
> think
> > would be pertinent and useful to raleigh.rb - tag it with "for:
> raleigh.rb"
> > * Everybody who wants to see what fellow raleigh.rb-ers are bookmarking
> can
> > subscribe to this RSS feed:
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/raleighrb_delicious and see
> > those bookmarks
> >
> > This differs from subscribing to each individual member's feed because
> > there's still a lot noise that we all have in our own bookmarks that
> doesn't
> > relate to ruby.  This takes a conscious effort by the bookmarker to
> denote
> > that we raleigh.rb-ers would find it useful.
> >
> > So.. subscribe to
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/raleighrb_delicious and make
> > sure to tag your ruby bookmarks with "for:raleigh.rb" where appropriate.
> >
> > -Ryan Daigle
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
Kevin Olbrich
kevin.olbrich at gmail.com
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From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Wed Jan 17 08:18:49 2007
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:18:49 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Raleigh.rb del.icio.us feed
In-Reply-To: <b84fa5050701161935q3df1c789l390be9bc8d258bbd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9D0E9DFB-68E3-4625-AE62-76AA0FF4243C@gmail.com>
	<f25a5bb60701161820j4f78a829y6d97d963a7afbee2@mail.gmail.com>
	<b84fa5050701161935q3df1c789l390be9bc8d258bbd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D0BD9549-F63C-4D91-9702-CCABAD38D6D2@gmail.com>

http://feeddigest.com/

On Jan 16, 2007, at 10:35 PM, Kevin Olbrich wrote:

I see one minor problem with this scheme.  The only way to look at  
the list is through the RSS feed.

Now if some enterprising person were to write a cron script that  
automatically posted links marked with 'for:raleigh.rb ' back to the  
'raleigh.rb' user with the same tags (minus the 'for:raleigh.rb' of  
course), then there would always be a list of links for all to see.

_Kevin

On 1/16/07, TJ Stankus <tj at stank.us> wrote:
Great idea.

On 1/16/07, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
 > Geoff, Chris and I were talking on the way out about how useful the
 > lightening talks are because they give you a quick pointer to  
topics that
 > you can then further dig into depending on your level of interest  
- much
 > like bookmarks...  One thing led to another and we thought that  
setting up
 > our own Raleigh.rb del.icio.us feed would be a great way to share  
those Ruby
 > nuggets we all find in our daily browsing.  So, here's the deal:
 >
 > * When you bookmark something to your own del.icio.us account that  
you think
 > would be pertinent and useful to raleigh.rb - tag it with  
"for:raleigh.rb"
 > * Everybody who wants to see what fellow raleigh.rb-ers are  
bookmarking can
 > subscribe to this RSS feed:
 > http://feeds.feedburner.com/raleighrb_delicious and see
 > those bookmarks
 >
 > This differs from subscribing to each individual member's feed  
because
 > there's still a lot noise that we all have in our own bookmarks  
that doesn't
 > relate to ruby.  This takes a conscious effort by the bookmarker  
to denote
 > that we raleigh.rb-ers would find it useful.
 >
 > So.. subscribe to
 > http://feeds.feedburner.com/raleighrb_delicious and make
 > sure to tag your ruby bookmarks with "for:raleigh.rb " where  
appropriate.
 >
 > -Ryan Daigle
 > _______________________________________________
 > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
 > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
 > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
 >
 >
_______________________________________________
raleigh-rb-members mailing list
raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members



-- 
Kevin Olbrich
kevin.olbrich at gmail.com
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From blake at near-time.com  Thu Jan 18 04:09:04 2007
From: blake at near-time.com (Blake Watters)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 04:09:04 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Raleigh.rb del.icio.us feed
In-Reply-To: <9D0E9DFB-68E3-4625-AE62-76AA0FF4243C@gmail.com>
References: <9D0E9DFB-68E3-4625-AE62-76AA0FF4243C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <88191612-0398-438E-B9DB-C585507FC95E@near-time.com>

Are we trying to stay strictly Ruby focused or are articles about  
process, programming philosophy, etc. pertinent to the rest of the  
list? How about javscript and other peripheral technologies we likely  
have in common. I'd find such resources useful and still distinct  
from my personal delicious, which contains stuff about cooking,  
fitness, science, etc.

On Jan 16, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Ryan Daigle wrote:

> Geoff, Chris and I were talking on the way out about how useful the  
> lightening talks are because they give you a quick pointer to  
> topics that you can then further dig into depending on your level  
> of interest - much like bookmarks...  One thing led to another and  
> we thought that setting up our own Raleigh.rb del.icio.us feed  
> would be a great way to share those Ruby nuggets we all find in our  
> daily browsing.  So, here's the deal:
>
> * When you bookmark something to your own del.icio.us account that  
> you think would be pertinent and useful to raleigh.rb - tag it with  
> "for:raleigh.rb"
> * Everybody who wants to see what fellow raleigh.rb-ers are  
> bookmarking can subscribe to this RSS feed: http:// 
> feeds.feedburner.com/raleighrb_delicious and see those bookmarks
>
> This differs from subscribing to each individual member's feed  
> because there's still a lot noise that we all have in our own  
> bookmarks that doesn't relate to ruby.  This takes a conscious  
> effort by the bookmarker to denote that we raleigh.rb-ers would  
> find it useful.
>
> So.. subscribe to http://feeds.feedburner.com/raleighrb_delicious  
> and make sure to tag your ruby bookmarks with "for:raleigh.rb"  
> where appropriate.
>
> -Ryan Daigle
> 
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> !DSPAM:2,45ad8228182868192315349!



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From rdaigle at alterthought.com  Thu Jan 18 10:15:03 2007
From: rdaigle at alterthought.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:15:03 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Raleigh.rb del.icio.us feed
In-Reply-To: <88191612-0398-438E-B9DB-C585507FC95E@near-time.com>
References: <9D0E9DFB-68E3-4625-AE62-76AA0FF4243C@gmail.com>
	<88191612-0398-438E-B9DB-C585507FC95E@near-time.com>
Message-ID: <E3CCD414-7B42-410B-AE52-4E906C0D12A1@alterthought.com>

I would use your best judgement - I would hate to unsubscribe just  
because it got too chatty.  However, I find process articles etc...  
interesting as well.

On Jan 18, 2007, at 4:09 AM, Blake Watters wrote:

Are we trying to stay strictly Ruby focused or are articles about  
process, programming philosophy, etc. pertinent to the rest of the  
list? How about javscript and other peripheral technologies we likely  
have in common. I'd find such resources useful and still distinct  
from my personal delicious, which contains stuff about cooking,  
fitness, science, etc.

On Jan 16, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Ryan Daigle wrote:

> Geoff, Chris and I were talking on the way out about how useful the  
> lightening talks are because they give you a quick pointer to  
> topics that you can then further dig into depending on your level  
> of interest - much like bookmarks...  One thing led to another and  
> we thought that setting up our own Raleigh.rb del.icio.us feed  
> would be a great way to share those Ruby nuggets we all find in our  
> daily browsing.  So, here's the deal:
>
> * When you bookmark something to your own del.icio.us account that  
> you think would be pertinent and useful to raleigh.rb - tag it with  
> "for:raleigh.rb"
> * Everybody who wants to see what fellow raleigh.rb-ers are  
> bookmarking can subscribe to this RSS feed: http:// 
> feeds.feedburner.com/raleighrb_delicious and see those bookmarks
>
> This differs from subscribing to each individual member's feed  
> because there's still a lot noise that we all have in our own  
> bookmarks that doesn't relate to ruby.  This takes a conscious  
> effort by the bookmarker to denote that we raleigh.rb-ers would  
> find it useful.
>
> So.. subscribe to http://fee ds.feedburner.com/raleighrb_delicious  
> and make sure to tag your ruby bookmarks with "for:raleigh.rb"  
> where appropriate.
>
> -Ryan Daigle
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> < BR>
> !DSPAM:2,45ad8228182868192315349!

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From blake at near-time.com  Fri Jan 19 04:27:17 2007
From: blake at near-time.com (Blake Watters)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:27:17 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Near-Time is Hiring
Message-ID: <301656F0-0D62-4560-B71A-90399A625F33@near-time.com>

We are looking to hire a few full time developers at Near-Time to  
work on our Ruby on Rails powered collaboration platform. We've  
recently closed our series A funding and are looking to expand our  
development team with some dedicated local Rails hackers. The team is  
small, the hours are long, and we're having a blast. If there's  
anybody on the list looking for a great opportunity, please check us  
out and contact me off list (we're looking for full-time team  
members, not contractors!).

The best way to check us out is to hit http://www.near-time.net/ and  
sign up for an account and play around. The News and Observer  
featured us in a recent story (http://www.newsobserver.com/126/story/ 
531470.html). If you are interested or have any recommendations,  
contact me off at blake at near-time.com or call my cell @ 919.260.3783

Cheers,
Blake Watters
Chef Architect
Near-Time, Inc.

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From chris at coderhythm.com  Fri Jan 19 19:32:58 2007
From: chris at coderhythm.com (Chris O'Meara)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:32:58 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails Edge
Message-ID: <5E76EFC9-53CC-4200-920D-1C325A24C872@coderhythm.com>

Is anyone headed to Rails Edge next week?  If so, it could be fun to  
get together one night for dinner.

Chris O'Meara
chris at coderhythm.com
http://coderhythm.com



From minter at lunenburg.org  Fri Jan 19 19:41:40 2007
From: minter at lunenburg.org (H. Wade Minter)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:41:40 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails Edge
In-Reply-To: <5E76EFC9-53CC-4200-920D-1C325A24C872@coderhythm.com>
References: <5E76EFC9-53CC-4200-920D-1C325A24C872@coderhythm.com>
Message-ID: <BC27400B-33F5-4266-B640-923C2AC2F00D@lunenburg.org>


On Jan 19, 2007, at 7:32 PM, Chris O'Meara wrote:

> Is anyone headed to Rails Edge next week?  If so, it could be fun to
> get together one night for dinner.

I'm not, but my friend Mark Cornick from Greenbelt, MD, will be.   
Tall guy (6'4" or so) with a beard.  Say hi if you see him.

--Wade


From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Fri Jan 19 19:57:25 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:57:25 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails Edge
In-Reply-To: <5E76EFC9-53CC-4200-920D-1C325A24C872@coderhythm.com>
References: <5E76EFC9-53CC-4200-920D-1C325A24C872@coderhythm.com>
Message-ID: <08471874-1297-4087-A9A1-D2E205F10691@nc.rr.com>

I'll be there.

Jared
http://JaredRichardson.net

On Jan 19, 2007, at 7:32 PM, Chris O'Meara wrote:

> Is anyone headed to Rails Edge next week?  If so, it could be fun to
> get together one night for dinner.
>
> Chris O'Meara
> chris at coderhythm.com
> http://coderhythm.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From jared.haworth at gmail.com  Fri Jan 19 20:59:02 2007
From: jared.haworth at gmail.com (Jared Haworth)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:59:02 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails Edge
In-Reply-To: <5E76EFC9-53CC-4200-920D-1C325A24C872@coderhythm.com>
References: <5E76EFC9-53CC-4200-920D-1C325A24C872@coderhythm.com>
Message-ID: <762DED94-EFDD-42B8-BADB-C9EDD4DCFF8F@gmail.com>

Set & Service Resources will be sending a delegation, there will be 3  
of us up there:

Chris N., Erik H., and yours truly.

On Jan 19, 2007, at 7:32 PM, Chris O'Meara wrote:

> Is anyone headed to Rails Edge next week?  If so, it could be fun to
> get together one night for dinner.
>
> Chris O'Meara
> chris at coderhythm.com
> http://coderhythm.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From pelargir at gmail.com  Sun Jan 21 22:52:07 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:52:07 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ocadia theme ported to Mephisto
Message-ID: <c2eae3390701211952h5f22f735taa758f654b6cc430@mail.gmail.com>

Having recently begun experimenting with the Rails-based Mephisto blogging
engine, I quickly discovered that there is a noticeable lack of good themes
for the app. One of the blogs I'm converting runs on Becca Wei's excellent
Ocadia theme for WordPress, so I decided to port it to Mephisto. I'm sharing
it here in case there are any other Mephisto-savvy folks on the list who
want to get their grubby paws on it.

http://www.matthewbass.com/blog/2007/01/21/port-of-the-ocadia-theme-to-mephisto/

Enjoy,
Matthew
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From blake at near-time.com  Mon Jan 22 02:06:14 2007
From: blake at near-time.com (Blake Watters)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:06:14 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Automatic RHTML formatting?
Message-ID: <DC9E8681-F612-430E-B7B0-419E44ECB65F@near-time.com>

I'm in markup hell. Whatever tool the design side of my shop is using  
to author HTML formats the code in maddening and basically  
impenetrable ways and makes editing them by hand a true pain. Since I  
can't spend a half hour reformatting markup every time I open a  
template, I'm looking for something I can use to scrub the templates  
either as I need them or via a Subversion pre-commit hook. Obviously  
it needs to be able to ignore RHTML <% tags...

Anybody come across anything like this before?

!DSPAM:57,45b45d1b231162033546423!



From philomousos at gmail.com  Mon Jan 22 08:47:14 2007
From: philomousos at gmail.com (Hugh Cayless)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:47:14 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Automatic RHTML formatting?
In-Reply-To: <DC9E8681-F612-430E-B7B0-419E44ECB65F@near-time.com>
References: <DC9E8681-F612-430E-B7B0-419E44ECB65F@near-time.com>
Message-ID: <EBC5408E-8242-4BA6-8A9F-CA742F146F03@gmail.com>

Tidy (http://tidy.sourceforge.net/) would probably do the trick for  
you.  I've done markup scrubbing with a combination of Why's HPricot  
(http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/hpricot/) and XSLT before too, but  
the goal there was eliminating all but certain specific elements and  
attributes, so it might be overkill.  HPricot by itself has some  
cleanup tools too.

HTH

Hugh

On Jan 22, 2007, at 2:06 AM, Blake Watters wrote:

> I'm in markup hell. Whatever tool the design side of my shop is using
> to author HTML formats the code in maddening and basically
> impenetrable ways and makes editing them by hand a true pain. Since I
> can't spend a half hour reformatting markup every time I open a
> template, I'm looking for something I can use to scrub the templates
> either as I need them or via a Subversion pre-commit hook. Obviously
> it needs to be able to ignore RHTML <% tags...
>
> Anybody come across anything like this before?
>
> !DSPAM:57,45b45d1b231162033546423!
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From tj at stank.us  Mon Jan 22 08:54:43 2007
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:54:43 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Automatic RHTML formatting?
In-Reply-To: <EBC5408E-8242-4BA6-8A9F-CA742F146F03@gmail.com>
References: <DC9E8681-F612-430E-B7B0-419E44ECB65F@near-time.com>
	<EBC5408E-8242-4BA6-8A9F-CA742F146F03@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60701220554p6834f566t341a5442a69c364f@mail.gmail.com>

> Tidy (http://tidy.sourceforge.net/) would probably do the trick for

If you're using Textmate, there's a Tidy command in the HTML bundle.

-TJ

From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Mon Jan 22 08:58:26 2007
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:58:26 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ocadia theme ported to Mephisto
In-Reply-To: <c2eae3390701211952h5f22f735taa758f654b6cc430@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390701211952h5f22f735taa758f654b6cc430@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A3BD3846-2D47-463F-ACAD-056656605A8B@talbott.ws>

On Jan 21, 2007, at 22:52 , Matthew wrote:

> Having recently begun experimenting with the Rails-based Mephisto  
> blogging engine, I quickly discovered that there is a noticeable  
> lack of good themes for the app. One of the blogs I'm converting  
> runs on Becca Wei's excellent Ocadia theme for WordPress, so I  
> decided to port it to Mephisto. I'm sharing it here in case there  
> are any other Mephisto-savvy folks on the list who want to get  
> their grubby paws on it.
>
> http://www.matthewbass.com/blog/2007/01/21/port-of-the-ocadia-theme- 
> to-mephisto/

Looks like its made it in to the Mephisto Theme Gallery:

   http://themes.benlog.org/

Nice job, Matt!


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott

<:((><



From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Mon Jan 22 09:08:18 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:08:18 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Automatic RHTML formatting?
In-Reply-To: <DC9E8681-F612-430E-B7B0-419E44ECB65F@near-time.com>
References: <DC9E8681-F612-430E-B7B0-419E44ECB65F@near-time.com>
Message-ID: <1DA2554D-2E92-4C5F-93F0-6E68EBFE9878@nc.rr.com>

I haven't tried it with RHTML but NVU (a free, cross platform HTML  
WYSIWYG editor) will automatically format the HTML of anything it  
touches.

I'll try a sample if you like.

Jared
http://JaredRichardson.net

If you want me to run some of your code through it, send it over
On Jan 22, 2007, at 2:06 AM, Blake Watters wrote:

> I'm looking for something I can use to scrub the templates
> either as I need them

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From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Tue Jan 23 11:23:40 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:23:40 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Hiring for Rails...
In-Reply-To: <1DA2554D-2E92-4C5F-93F0-6E68EBFE9878@nc.rr.com>
References: <DC9E8681-F612-430E-B7B0-419E44ECB65F@near-time.com>
	<1DA2554D-2E92-4C5F-93F0-6E68EBFE9878@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <DEB46671-02E6-440B-85CF-4DE10C62184E@nc.rr.com>

A client of mine (http://Chacha.com) is looking for full-time Rails  
programmers and asked me to drop a note to our local list.

ChaCha is a search engine startup with a twist. Along with standard  
algorithmic search they offer searching with a person (aka: Guide)  
who has knowledge on the topic of your search. Jeff Bezos recently  
invested in them and they are rapidly expanding. The company is  
founded by Scott Jones, a serial entrepeneur with a proven track record.

They are using Ruby on Rails in several applications in a high volume  
enterprise production environment. They are interested in people who  
are passionate about Rails and looking for an exciting challenge.  
They are looking for people who can work remotely with the option of  
moving on site to their headquarters in Indianapolis.

If you're interested in full time employment with stock options drop  
me a resume as well as a list or prior projects and I'll forward it  
on the relevant parties.

btw, even though this mail is RoR targeted, they also need Java and C+ 
+ guys, and sys-admins

Jared
http://JaredRichardson.net
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From tj at stank.us  Sat Jan 27 15:46:23 2007
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:46:23 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] interesting opportunity
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60701271246x287eef1bm20e128e79636341d@mail.gmail.com>

http://jobs.dzone.com/id/2

From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Mon Jan 29 10:28:21 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:28:21 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ruby db connection pooling? Found It at RailsEdge
In-Reply-To: <0333F742-262E-40BC-9FAC-D941D6E8CFFC@near-time.com>
References: <825961.31358.qm@web54603.mail.yahoo.com>
	<2A1708D4-7704-4337-ADCE-DEAC6414CAF9@near-time.com>
	<6FBD13FB-3FDC-4DB2-9827-800C7AF8A21C@nc.rr.com>
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Message-ID: <54D771BC-55F5-4535-96DE-7EEA73D79DCA@nc.rr.com>

I found the answer to this question at Rails Edge. (Great conference  
by the way! I'll blog as soon as I catch up on all the missed work)...

I asked JDD about this after one of his talks and he found the patch  
for me (I love the Rails community)... it's already in ActiveRecord,  
and has been for about six months... but it's not in the version of  
AR on my box. I'm betting it's in 1.2 though.

http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails-core/2006-July/002019.html

I ~think~ this will apply to any database... it should let you have a  
single master db that gets all the writes, and a group of slave (or  
replicated dbs) that get all the reads. Great for having tools that  
run big db intensive reports that you don't want slowing down your  
main db box.

If/when my client has me integrate this and start using it, I'll do a  
write up. I don't think they're ready for Rails 1.2 so it'd be a back  
port.

Jared
http://JaredRichardson.net


On Jan 15, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Blake Watters wrote:

> I think you'll have to override the default connection pooling
> behavior. There is no distinction made on the read/write case, only
> on the class of the model. The inheritance hierarchy is then
> traversed upward toward ActiveRecord::Base, searching for a
> connection keyed on the class.
>
> There is a class variable called @@defined_connections which is just
> a hash indexed by class name. I imagine you'd need to add another
> dimension to the hash, with :read and :write as keys pointing toward
> connections and then massage the AR primitives (find, save, etc) to
> grab the appropriate hash.
>
> You could probably do this as a plugin with severe patches into
> ActiveRecord::Base, but it will be serious surgery and may be painful
> to maintain... you might want to see if core would accept a patch
> implementing the feature and poke them for hints on test cases they'd
> want to see.
>
> With 1.2 imminently shipping, its probably a good time to be working
> on such a feature as there will be a new release cycle opening up and
> patches will start flowing again.
>
> Cheers,
> Blake
>
> On Jan 15, 2007, at 5:29 PM, Jared Richardson wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm trying to research connection pooling in Rails. Specifically to a
>> Mysql master/slave set up where (we hope) the reads hit the slave but
>> writes hit the master.
>>
>> I wrote this exact bit in Java a few years ago but preliminary
>> searches don't seem to show the same tech for Ruby yet.
>>
>> Any hints? TIA
>>
>> Jared
>> http://JaredRichardson.net
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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>>
>>
>>
>
>
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From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Mon Jan 29 14:04:27 2007
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:04:27 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Hangin' with the cool kids
Message-ID: <C8358AED-423D-49EA-93E1-374A4EDB695F@geoffdavis.net>

Raleigh.rb's very own Ryan Daigle was a winner in Rails Hackfest 2007

http://workingwithrails.com/contests/hackfest2007/winners

Nathaniel Talbott is the 23rd most popular Rails person

http://workingwithrails.com/browse/popular/people

Other popular local folks: Justin Gehtland (#34), Matthew Bass (#61),  
Stuart Halloway (#62), Adam Williams (#69)

I may be missing a few names since I don't know everybody.

From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Mon Jan 29 14:34:07 2007
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:34:07 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Hangin' with the cool kids
In-Reply-To: <C8358AED-423D-49EA-93E1-374A4EDB695F@geoffdavis.net>
References: <C8358AED-423D-49EA-93E1-374A4EDB695F@geoffdavis.net>
Message-ID: <30A594E2-DC58-4DB0-A7EC-91D1B4DF27C5@talbott.ws>

On Jan 29, 2007, at 14:04 , Geoff Davis wrote:

> Raleigh.rb's very own Ryan Daigle was a winner in Rails Hackfest 2007
>
> http://workingwithrails.com/contests/hackfest2007/winners

Mega-congrats to Ryan! Great to see someone from Raleigh.rb in there!


> Nathaniel Talbott is the 23rd most popular Rails person
>
> http://workingwithrails.com/browse/popular/people

Of course, if you want to help with my popularity, feel free to  
recommend me...

;-)


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott

<:((><



From adam at thewilliams.ws  Mon Jan 29 15:57:15 2007
From: adam at thewilliams.ws (Adam Williams)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:57:15 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Hangin' with the cool kids
In-Reply-To: <C8358AED-423D-49EA-93E1-374A4EDB695F@geoffdavis.net>
References: <C8358AED-423D-49EA-93E1-374A4EDB695F@geoffdavis.net>
Message-ID: <94899BE2-84F0-4D5D-AB00-E6EA3346E922@thewilliams.ws>

On Jan 29, 2007, at 2:04 PM, Geoff Davis wrote:

> Other popular local folks: Justin Gehtland (#34), Matthew Bass (#61),
> Stuart Halloway (#62), Adam Williams (#69)

Thanks, Geoff. Man, I used to be much higher, somewhere in the  
forties - weren't you too, Mr. Bass? Guess that's what happens when I  
don't keep up the campaign ;)

  adam williams (aiwilliams)

From pelargir at gmail.com  Mon Jan 29 16:03:57 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:03:57 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Hangin' with the cool kids
In-Reply-To: <94899BE2-84F0-4D5D-AB00-E6EA3346E922@thewilliams.ws>
References: <C8358AED-423D-49EA-93E1-374A4EDB695F@geoffdavis.net>
	<94899BE2-84F0-4D5D-AB00-E6EA3346E922@thewilliams.ws>
Message-ID: <c2eae3390701291303x4d236de7w5addeba39f3de351@mail.gmail.com>

Uh, yeah, something like that. Higher, definitely. Man, talk about dilution.
=)

Matthew


On 1/29/07, Adam Williams <adam at thewilliams.ws> wrote:
>
> On Jan 29, 2007, at 2:04 PM, Geoff Davis wrote:
>
> > Other popular local folks: Justin Gehtland (#34), Matthew Bass (#61),
> > Stuart Halloway (#62), Adam Williams (#69)
>
> Thanks, Geoff. Man, I used to be much higher, somewhere in the
> forties - weren't you too, Mr. Bass? Guess that's what happens when I
> don't keep up the campaign ;)
>
>   adam williams (aiwilliams)
> _______________________________________________
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From geoff at geoffdavis.net  Mon Jan 29 16:04:36 2007
From: geoff at geoffdavis.net (Geoff Davis)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:04:36 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Hangin' with the cool kids
In-Reply-To: <94899BE2-84F0-4D5D-AB00-E6EA3346E922@thewilliams.ws>
References: <C8358AED-423D-49EA-93E1-374A4EDB695F@geoffdavis.net>
	<94899BE2-84F0-4D5D-AB00-E6EA3346E922@thewilliams.ws>
Message-ID: <F6DE186C-3BCE-4128-9D3B-10595F2036D1@geoffdavis.net>

I just recommended you!

On Jan 29, 2007, at 3:57 PM, Adam Williams wrote:

> On Jan 29, 2007, at 2:04 PM, Geoff Davis wrote:
>
>> Other popular local folks: Justin Gehtland (#34), Matthew Bass (#61),
>> Stuart Halloway (#62), Adam Williams (#69)
>
> Thanks, Geoff. Man, I used to be much higher, somewhere in the
> forties - weren't you too, Mr. Bass? Guess that's what happens when I
> don't keep up the campaign ;)
>
>   adam williams (aiwilliams)
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>


From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Mon Jan 29 16:12:07 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:12:07 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Hangin' with the cool kids
In-Reply-To: <94899BE2-84F0-4D5D-AB00-E6EA3346E922@thewilliams.ws>
References: <C8358AED-423D-49EA-93E1-374A4EDB695F@geoffdavis.net>
	<94899BE2-84F0-4D5D-AB00-E6EA3346E922@thewilliams.ws>
Message-ID: <BEE4B9B4-5690-4933-9693-15C8AD9036EA@nc.rr.com>


On Jan 29, 2007, at 3:57 PM, Adam Williams wrote:

> On Jan 29, 2007, at 2:04 PM, Geoff Davis wrote:
>
>> Other popular local folks: Justin Gehtland (#34), Matthew Bass (#61),
>> Stuart Halloway (#62), Adam Williams (#69)
>
> Thanks, Geoff. Man, I used to be much higher, somewhere in the
> forties - weren't you too, Mr. Bass? Guess that's what happens when I
> don't keep up the campaign ;)
>
>   adam williams (aiwilliams)

Hey, at least you guys are ranked! I guess that what happens when you  
don't campaign at all! (hint hint)

http://workingwithrails.com/person/5757-jared-richardson

;)

Jared
http://JaredRichardson.net
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From pelargir at gmail.com  Mon Jan 29 17:36:59 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:36:59 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Eliminate the cruft in your Rails test summaries
Message-ID: <c2eae3390701291436v2e64988aq21fa33f619471d6f@mail.gmail.com>

M@ McCray of ZooDotCom and Comatose fame posted a nice snippet of code in
the Terralien Campfire the other day. If you've ever been annoyed by the
overly-verbose output of the command-line Rails testing tasks, you're not
alone. Lots of us are.

Fortunately, M@ whipped up a hack to help us:

http://www.matthewbass.com/blog/2007/01/29/rails-test-results-without-the-cruft/

Matthew
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From pelargir at gmail.com  Tue Jan 30 21:16:04 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:16:04 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] My first Rails-based web product just went live
Message-ID: <c2eae3390701301816t382c0e4k42b52faa2f153d7d@mail.gmail.com>

As most of you know, Teascript is a Rails-based web product I've been
working on for several months now. I gave a 15-minute demonstration of the
app during a Raleigh.rb meetup late last year. I'm excited to announce that
the app is finally live! I released it late yesterday night. You can check
it out at:

http://teascript.com

When I started building the app, Rails 1.1.6 was the latest and greatest. I
moved to Edge in December and when 1.2 was released I froze to that,
updating my tags as necessary to avoid the annoying deprecation warnings. (
1.2 is a lot nicer to work with.) The entire app reports in at a smidge over
2500 lines of code, including tests.

Teascript makes fairly heavy use of AJAX, especially on the main transcript
page. Courses can be sorted by dragging and dropping, for example. It was
quite pleasant being the only developer on the project. It allowed me to
maintain an insane amount of consistency across the codebase and keep
duplication to a minimum, both things that, while certainly doable, are much
more challenging in a team environment.

A big motivation for me in building this app was 37 Signals' self-published
PDF book "Getting Real:"

http://gettingreal.37signals.com

Nathaniel's Homesteading keynote at last year's RailsConf was also a big
encouragement as I took this first step towards my goal of producing
sustainable, self-maintaining web-based services that generate passive
income.

My talk proposal for this year's RailsConf is focused around the challenges
I ran into while developing this application. I'll most likely be giving the
talk at a future Raleigh.rb meetup so stay tuned for that.

Matthew

--
Adeptware
adeptware.com
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From lists-jared at nc.rr.com  Tue Jan 30 21:31:17 2007
From: lists-jared at nc.rr.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:31:17 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] My first Rails-based web product just went live
In-Reply-To: <c2eae3390701301816t382c0e4k42b52faa2f153d7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390701301816t382c0e4k42b52faa2f153d7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87C8A353-9EBC-4CF1-9F54-7324D431E366@nc.rr.com>

Congrats!


On Jan 30, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Matthew wrote:

> As most of you know, Teascript is a Rails-based web product I've  
> been working on for several months now. I gave a 15-minute  
> demonstration of the app during a Raleigh.rb meetup late last year.  
> I'm excited to announce that the app is finally live! I released it  
> late yesterday night. You can check it out at:
>
> http://teascript.com
>
> When I started building the app, Rails 1.1.6 was the latest and  
> greatest. I moved to Edge in December and when 1.2 was released I  
> froze to that, updating my tags as necessary to avoid the annoying  
> deprecation warnings. ( 1.2 is a lot nicer to work with.) The  
> entire app reports in at a smidge over 2500 lines of code,  
> including tests.
>
> Teascript makes fairly heavy use of AJAX, especially on the main  
> transcript page. Courses can be sorted by dragging and dropping,  
> for example. It was quite pleasant being the only developer on the  
> project. It allowed me to maintain an insane amount of consistency  
> across the codebase and keep duplication to a minimum, both things  
> that, while certainly doable, are much more challenging in a team  
> environment.
>
> A big motivation for me in building this app was 37 Signals' self- 
> published PDF book "Getting Real:"
>
> http://gettingreal.37signals.com
>
> Nathaniel's Homesteading keynote at last year's RailsConf was also  
> a big encouragement as I took this first step towards my goal of  
> producing sustainable, self-maintaining web-based services that  
> generate passive income.
>
> My talk proposal for this year's RailsConf is focused around the  
> challenges I ran into while developing this application. I'll most  
> likely be giving the talk at a future Raleigh.rb meetup so stay  
> tuned for that.
>
> Matthew
>
> --
> Adeptware
> adeptware.com
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
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From lon at speedymac.com  Tue Jan 30 22:36:28 2007
From: lon at speedymac.com (Lon Baker)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:36:28 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] My first Rails-based web product just went live
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1170209781.21610.raleigh-rb-members@rubyforge.org>
References: <mailman.5.1170209781.21610.raleigh-rb-members@rubyforge.org>
Message-ID: <B6963F3C-7A78-44F3-B832-8FCCA8AAF0F4@speedymac.com>

Congratulations!

It look really good.

--
Lon Baker
http://speedymac.com
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From jjeffers at nc.rr.com  Wed Jan 31 07:03:39 2007
From: jjeffers at nc.rr.com (James Jeffers)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:03:39 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] My first Rails-based web product just went live
In-Reply-To: <c2eae3390701301816t382c0e4k42b52faa2f153d7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390701301816t382c0e4k42b52faa2f153d7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1170245019.10506.4.camel@localhost>

On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 21:16 -0500, Matthew wrote:
> As most of you know, Teascript is a Rails-based web product I've been
> working on for several months now. I gave a 15-minute demonstration of
> the app during a Raleigh.rb meetup late last year. I'm excited to
> announce that the app is finally live! 

Congratulations! I look forward to your presentation about this
experience!


From rdaigle at alterthought.com  Wed Jan 31 11:18:41 2007
From: rdaigle at alterthought.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:18:41 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] My first Rails-based web product just went live
In-Reply-To: <c2eae3390701301816t382c0e4k42b52faa2f153d7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390701301816t382c0e4k42b52faa2f153d7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42D48F4C-CEE7-47B0-8229-9F3BBD207F08@alterthought.com>

Well done, Matt.  I'd love to see a demo account or screencast...?   
(I know most of us already had the benefit of seeing your demo at the  
meetup - but there may be others who haven't)

On Jan 30, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Matthew wrote:

As most of you know, Teascript is a Rails-based web product I've been  
working on for several months now. I gave a 15-minute demonstration  
of the app during a Raleigh.rb meetup late last year. I'm excited to  
announce that the app is finally live! I released it late yesterday  
night. You can check it out at:

http://teascript.com

When I started building the app, Rails 1.1.6 was the latest and  
greatest. I moved to Edge in December and when 1.2 was released I  
froze to that, updating my tags as necessary to avoid the annoying  
deprecation warnings. ( 1.2 is a lot nicer to work with.) The entire  
app reports in at a smidge over 2500 lines of code, including tests.

Teascript makes fairly heavy use of AJAX, especially on the main  
transcript page. Courses can be sorted by dragging and dropping, for  
example. It was quite pleasant being the only developer on the  
project. It allowed me to maintain an insane amount of consistency  
across the codebase and keep duplication to a minimum, both things  
that, while certainly doable, are much more challenging in a team  
environment.

A big motivation for me in building this app was 37 Signals' self- 
published PDF book "Getting Real:"

http://gettingreal.37signals.com

Nathaniel's Homesteading keynote at last year's RailsConf was also a  
big encouragement as I took this first step towards my goal of  
producing sustainable, self-maintaining web-based services that  
generate passive income.

My talk proposal for this year's RailsConf is focused around the  
challenges I ran into while developing this application. I'll most  
likely be giving the talk at a future Raleigh.rb meetup so stay tuned  
for that.

Matthew

--
Adeptware
adeptware.com
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From pelargir at gmail.com  Wed Jan 31 11:29:51 2007
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:29:51 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] My first Rails-based web product just went live
In-Reply-To: <42D48F4C-CEE7-47B0-8229-9F3BBD207F08@alterthought.com>
References: <c2eae3390701301816t382c0e4k42b52faa2f153d7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<42D48F4C-CEE7-47B0-8229-9F3BBD207F08@alterthought.com>
Message-ID: <c2eae3390701310829m5188d042ya35a118955168078@mail.gmail.com>

The app does offer a free account that can be used to log in and experiment.
You'll see some Amazon ads, but most of the functionality is the same.

You can sign-up here:
https://teascript.com/signup

Matthew


On 1/31/07, Ryan Daigle <rdaigle at alterthought.com> wrote:
>
> Well done, Matt.  I'd love to see a demo account or screencast...?  (I
> know most of us already had the benefit of seeing your demo at the meetup -
> but there may be others who haven't)
> On Jan 30, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Matthew wrote:
>
> As most of you know, Teascript is a Rails-based web product I've been
> working on for several months now. I gave a 15-minute demonstration of the
> app during a Raleigh.rb meetup late last year. I'm excited to announce
> that the app is finally live! I released it late yesterday night. You can
> check it out at:
>
> http://teascript.com
>
> When I started building the app, Rails 1.1.6 was the latest and greatest.
> I moved to Edge in December and when 1.2 was released I froze to that,
> updating my tags as necessary to avoid the annoying deprecation warnings. (
> 1.2 is a lot nicer to work with.) The entire app reports in at a smidge
> over 2500 lines of code, including tests.
>
> Teascript makes fairly heavy use of AJAX, especially on the main
> transcript page. Courses can be sorted by dragging and dropping, for
> example. It was quite pleasant being the only developer on the project. It
> allowed me to maintain an insane amount of consistency across the codebase
> and keep duplication to a minimum, both things that, while certainly doable,
> are much more challenging in a team environment.
>
> A big motivation for me in building this app was 37 Signals'
> self-published PDF book "Getting Real:"
>
> http://gettingreal.37signals.com
>
> Nathaniel's Homesteading keynote at last year's RailsConf was also a big
> encouragement as I took this first step towards my goal of producing
> sustainable, self-maintaining web-based services that generate passive
> income.
>
> My talk proposal for this year's RailsConf is focused around the
> challenges I ran into while developing this application. I'll most likely be
> giving the talk at a future Raleigh.rb meetup so stay tuned for that.
>
> Matthew
>
> --
> Adeptware
> adeptware.com
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>
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From tj at stank.us  Wed Jan 31 11:30:27 2007
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:30:27 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] My first Rails-based web product just went live
In-Reply-To: <42D48F4C-CEE7-47B0-8229-9F3BBD207F08@alterthought.com>
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I missed the teascript demo, so I'd love to see your RailsConf talk about it.

Congrats too - looks great!

-TJ

On 1/31/07, Ryan Daigle <rdaigle at alterthought.com> wrote:
> Well done, Matt.  I'd love to see a demo account or screencast...?  (I know
> most of us already had the benefit of seeing your demo at the meetup - but
> there may be others who haven't)
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Matthew wrote:
> As most of you know, Teascript is a Rails-based web product I've been
> working on for several months now. I gave a 15-minute demonstration of the
> app during a Raleigh.rb meetup late last year. I'm excited to announce that
> the app is finally live! I released it late yesterday night. You can check
> it out at:
>
> http://teascript.com
>
> When I started building the app, Rails 1.1.6 was the latest and greatest. I
> moved to Edge in December and when 1.2 was released I froze to that,
> updating my tags as necessary to avoid the annoying deprecation warnings. (
> 1.2 is a lot nicer to work with.) The entire app reports in at a smidge over
> 2500 lines of code, including tests.
>
> Teascript makes fairly heavy use of AJAX, especially on the main transcript
> page. Courses can be sorted by dragging and dropping, for example. It was
> quite pleasant being the only developer on the project. It allowed me to
> maintain an insane amount of consistency across the codebase and keep
> duplication to a minimum, both things that, while certainly doable, are much
> more challenging in a team environment.
>
> A big motivation for me in building this app was 37 Signals' self-published
> PDF book "Getting Real:"
>
> http://gettingreal.37signals.com
>
> Nathaniel's Homesteading keynote at last year's RailsConf was also a big
> encouragement as I took this first step towards my goal of producing
> sustainable, self-maintaining web-based services that generate passive
> income.
>
> My talk proposal for this year's RailsConf is focused around the challenges
> I ran into while developing this application. I'll most likely be giving the
> talk at a future Raleigh.rb meetup so stay tuned for that.
>
> Matthew
>
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