From mshiltonj at gmail.com  Tue Jan  1 17:57:41 2008
From: mshiltonj at gmail.com (Steven Hilton)
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 17:57:41 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] A new rails-based site: Colony 337
Message-ID: <8308260d0801011457ue1f3388m13c2ba47f4f6c688@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings all,

I just subbed to this list, although I'm a member of the meetup group
and have been to few meetings.

I wanted to let some rubyists know that I just launched (on New Year's
Eve) a new site called Colony 337. It's a free web-based game built
with Ruby On Rails. It uses Apache 2.2, Mongrel, MySQL running on
Feisty, deployed (sort of) with capistrano. It's being hosted on a vps
at linode.com.

There are some bugs that have surfaced but it seems to be working out
alright so far.

This is my first ruby on rails project that has seen the light of day,
and I had to tell somebody. :)

-- 
Steven Hilton <mshiltonj at gmail.com>
<http://mshiltonj.com/>

From fatcatt316 at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  2 10:12:33 2008
From: fatcatt316 at yahoo.com (Joe Peck)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 07:12:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] A new rails-based site: Colony 337
In-Reply-To: <8308260d0801011457ue1f3388m13c2ba47f4f6c688@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <131770.54643.qm@web61219.mail.yahoo.com>

Cool idea.  You might want to change the copyright date at the bottom to say something like "2006-2008".  Also, right after I created my robot name, the next page said "Something went wrong".  I went back and resubmitted the robot name, and it worked.

Looks like a cool idea, and good to see yet another ruby project seeing the light of day.

Joe

Steven Hilton <mshiltonj at gmail.com> wrote: Greetings all,

I just subbed to this list, although I'm a member of the meetup group
and have been to few meetings.

I wanted to let some rubyists know that I just launched (on New Year's
Eve) a new site called Colony 337. It's a free web-based game built
with Ruby On Rails. It uses Apache 2.2, Mongrel, MySQL running on
Feisty, deployed (sort of) with capistrano. It's being hosted on a vps
at linode.com.

There are some bugs that have surfaced but it seems to be working out
alright so far.

This is my first ruby on rails project that has seen the light of day,
and I had to tell somebody. :)

-- 
Steven Hilton 

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From robbie at statsheet.com  Wed Jan  2 10:34:30 2008
From: robbie at statsheet.com (Robbie Allen)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 10:34:30 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Introducing StatSheet.com
Message-ID: <003e01c84d54$f7ed3a10$e7c7ae30$@com>

Hello,

 

I recently subscribed to raleigh-rb-members and look forward to attending a
future Meetup.  My name is Robbie Allen and I'm the developer behind a new
college basketball stats website: http://statsheet.com.  I've developed the
site using RoR with Apache, Mongrel, and MySQL.   If you are a college
basketball fan, I'd appreciate any feedback.

 

Here are a few sample links:

http://statsheet.com/mcb/teams/north-carolina

 

http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/valparaiso-58-north-carolina-90

 

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/tyler-hansbrough

 

http://statsheet.com/mcb/coaches/roy-williams/career_record

 

http://statsheet.com/tools

 

Regards,

Robbie Allen

http://statsheet.com/users/RobbieAllen

 

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From BeLucid at acm.org  Wed Jan  2 10:58:07 2008
From: BeLucid at acm.org (Sean Johnson)
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:58:07 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Introducing StatSheet.com
In-Reply-To: <003e01c84d54$f7ed3a10$e7c7ae30$@com>
References: <003e01c84d54$f7ed3a10$e7c7ae30$@com>
Message-ID: <477BB48F.7000909@acm.org>

Robbie,

    Congrats, that's a fantastic looking site that is really usable as 
well. What are you guys going to do to stand out from your competitors, 
get noticed and attract users? Seems like a space crowded with big 
household names.

Thanks,
Sean

Robbie Allen wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>  
>
> I recently subscribed to raleigh-rb-members and look forward to 
> attending a future Meetup.  My name is Robbie Allen and I'm the 
> developer behind a new college basketball stats website: 
> http://statsheet.com.  I've developed the site using RoR with Apache, 
> Mongrel, and MySQL.   If you are a college basketball fan, *I'd 
> appreciate any feedback*.
>
>  
>
> Here are a few sample links:
>
> http://statsheet.com/mcb/teams/north-carolina
>
>  
>
> http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/valparaiso-58-north-carolina-90
>
>  
>
> http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/tyler-hansbrough
>
>  
>
> http://statsheet.com/mcb/coaches/roy-williams/career_record
>
>  
>
> http://statsheet.com/tools
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
> Robbie Allen
>
> http://statsheet.com/users/RobbieAllen
>
>  
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From robbie at statsheet.com  Wed Jan  2 11:49:31 2008
From: robbie at statsheet.com (Robbie Allen)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:49:31 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Introducing StatSheet.com
In-Reply-To: <477BB48F.7000909@acm.org>
References: <003e01c84d54$f7ed3a10$e7c7ae30$@com> <477BB48F.7000909@acm.org>
Message-ID: <004901c84d5f$756d7a40$60486ec0$@com>

Thanks for the feedback Sean.  There are many sites that provide college
basketball stats, but surprisingly very few that do so in a user-friendly
way.  Most sites (ESPN, Yahoo, etc.) provide the same raw, text-based stats
that you find everywhere.  No historical trends,
player/team/coach/conference comparisons, etc.  StatSheet.com does that plus
offers graphical charts, sortable tables, and comprehensive stats you won't
find anywhere else.  I think I just wrote my first marketing blurb for the
site ;-)

I'm also trying to cater to bloggers by making any of the charts on
StatSheet.com embeddable (http://statsheet.com/tools/chartlets) in addition
to Boxscore widgets (http://statsheet.com/tools/widgets).  I intend to add
more widgets over time.

Regards,
Robbie Allen
http://statsheet.com/users/RobbieAllen

> -----Original Message-----
> From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-
> bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Sean Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:58 AM
> To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
> Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] Introducing StatSheet.com
> 
> Robbie,
> 
>     Congrats, that's a fantastic looking site that is really usable as
> well. What are you guys going to do to stand out from your competitors,
> get noticed and attract users? Seems like a space crowded with big
> household names.
> 
> Thanks,
> Sean
> 
> Robbie Allen wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > I recently subscribed to raleigh-rb-members and look forward to
> > attending a future Meetup.  My name is Robbie Allen and I'm the
> > developer behind a new college basketball stats website:
> > http://statsheet.com.  I've developed the site using RoR with Apache,
> > Mongrel, and MySQL.   If you are a college basketball fan, *I'd
> > appreciate any feedback*.
> >
> >
> >
> > Here are a few sample links:
> >
> > http://statsheet.com/mcb/teams/north-carolina
> >
> >
> >
> > http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/valparaiso-58-north-carolina-90
> >
> >
> >
> > http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/tyler-hansbrough
> >
> >
> >
> > http://statsheet.com/mcb/coaches/roy-williams/career_record
> >
> >
> >
> > http://statsheet.com/tools
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Robbie Allen
> >
> > http://statsheet.com/users/RobbieAllen
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> 
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

From fatcatt316 at yahoo.com  Wed Jan  2 12:06:46 2008
From: fatcatt316 at yahoo.com (Joe Peck)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 09:06:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Introducing StatSheet.com
In-Reply-To: <004901c84d5f$756d7a40$60486ec0$@com>
Message-ID: <299494.37451.qm@web61216.mail.yahoo.com>

If I were you, I'd try to market it to sports gamblers as well as general fans.  It'd be nice for gamblers to see team trends and all the other information you have.

All in all, nice-looking site that works nicely.

Joe

Robbie Allen <robbie at statsheet.com> wrote: Thanks for the feedback Sean.  There are many sites that provide college
basketball stats, but surprisingly very few that do so in a user-friendly
way.  Most sites (ESPN, Yahoo, etc.) provide the same raw, text-based stats
that you find everywhere.  No historical trends,
player/team/coach/conference comparisons, etc.  StatSheet.com does that plus
offers graphical charts, sortable tables, and comprehensive stats you won't
find anywhere else.  I think I just wrote my first marketing blurb for the
site ;-)

I'm also trying to cater to bloggers by making any of the charts on
StatSheet.com embeddable (http://statsheet.com/tools/chartlets) in addition
to Boxscore widgets (http://statsheet.com/tools/widgets).  I intend to add
more widgets over time.

Regards,
Robbie Allen
http://statsheet.com/users/RobbieAllen

> -----Original Message-----
> From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-
> bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Sean Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:58 AM
> To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
> Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] Introducing StatSheet.com
> 
> Robbie,
> 
>     Congrats, that's a fantastic looking site that is really usable as
> well. What are you guys going to do to stand out from your competitors,
> get noticed and attract users? Seems like a space crowded with big
> household names.
> 
> Thanks,
> Sean
> 
> Robbie Allen wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > I recently subscribed to raleigh-rb-members and look forward to
> > attending a future Meetup.  My name is Robbie Allen and I'm the
> > developer behind a new college basketball stats website:
> > http://statsheet.com.  I've developed the site using RoR with Apache,
> > Mongrel, and MySQL.   If you are a college basketball fan, *I'd
> > appreciate any feedback*.
> >
> >
> >
> > Here are a few sample links:
> >
> > http://statsheet.com/mcb/teams/north-carolina
> >
> >
> >
> > http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/valparaiso-58-north-carolina-90
> >
> >
> >
> > http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/tyler-hansbrough
> >
> >
> >
> > http://statsheet.com/mcb/coaches/roy-williams/career_record
> >
> >
> >
> > http://statsheet.com/tools
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Robbie Allen
> >
> > http://statsheet.com/users/RobbieAllen
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> 
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From javery at infozerk.com  Wed Jan  2 12:02:45 2008
From: javery at infozerk.com (James Avery)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 12:02:45 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Introducing StatSheet.com
In-Reply-To: <004901c84d5f$756d7a40$60486ec0$@com>
References: <003e01c84d54$f7ed3a10$e7c7ae30$@com> <477BB48F.7000909@acm.org>
	<004901c84d5f$756d7a40$60486ec0$@com>
Message-ID: <20af90580801020902n15d09039r1834bd27f337dde3@mail.gmail.com>

Nice looking site.

I was recently working on similar functionality (letting users embed
something) and I would suggest taking a page out of Youtube's book. They put
the embed code on every page in a simple textbox that auto-selects when you
click on it. No second page, no options by default, just make it super easy
to share it. This was the number one way that youtube grew so quickly (imo
of course)

-James

On 1/2/08, Robbie Allen <robbie at statsheet.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the feedback Sean.  There are many sites that provide college
> basketball stats, but surprisingly very few that do so in a user-friendly
> way.  Most sites (ESPN, Yahoo, etc.) provide the same raw, text-based
> stats
> that you find everywhere.  No historical trends,
> player/team/coach/conference comparisons, etc.  StatSheet.com does that
> plus
> offers graphical charts, sortable tables, and comprehensive stats you
> won't
> find anywhere else.  I think I just wrote my first marketing blurb for the
> site ;-)
>
> I'm also trying to cater to bloggers by making any of the charts on
> StatSheet.com embeddable (http://statsheet.com/tools/chartlets) in
> addition
> to Boxscore widgets (http://statsheet.com/tools/widgets).  I intend to add
> more widgets over time.
>
> Regards,
> Robbie Allen
> http://statsheet.com/users/RobbieAllen
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:
> raleigh-rb-members-
> > bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Sean Johnson
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:58 AM
> > To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
> > Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] Introducing StatSheet.com
> >
> > Robbie,
> >
> >     Congrats, that's a fantastic looking site that is really usable as
> > well. What are you guys going to do to stand out from your competitors,
> > get noticed and attract users? Seems like a space crowded with big
> > household names.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sean
> >
> > Robbie Allen wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I recently subscribed to raleigh-rb-members and look forward to
> > > attending a future Meetup.  My name is Robbie Allen and I'm the
> > > developer behind a new college basketball stats website:
> > > http://statsheet.com.  I've developed the site using RoR with Apache,
> > > Mongrel, and MySQL.   If you are a college basketball fan, *I'd
> > > appreciate any feedback*.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Here are a few sample links:
> > >
> > > http://statsheet.com/mcb/teams/north-carolina
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/valparaiso-58-north-carolina-90
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/tyler-hansbrough
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://statsheet.com/mcb/coaches/roy-williams/career_record
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://statsheet.com/tools
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Robbie Allen
> > >
> > > http://statsheet.com/users/RobbieAllen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
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>



-- 
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Infozerk Inc.
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From lindsay at TSMworks.com  Mon Jan  7 15:21:31 2008
From: lindsay at TSMworks.com (Lindsay Morris)
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:21:31 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Consulting opportunity
Message-ID: <D2C6AB7E6EDFD94788D27D1F537FCC38391745DB@VMBX102.ihostexchange.net>

We are working on a product, and could use some part-time help.
Outsourcing hasn't worked that well for us - we'd like someone who can come in and work with us in our office (halfway between Durham and Chapel Hill).
It'll be a lot of basic training for us, so we don't need a rock star - just someone who can figure out a Rails application and tweak it.

Please let us know how many days a week you can be available, and the billing rate you're asking.
Thanks!

-------------------------
Mr. Lindsay Morris
Principal
TSMworks, Inc.
lindsay at tsmworks.com
859-539-9900

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From BeLucid at acm.org  Tue Jan  8 06:12:01 2008
From: BeLucid at acm.org (Sean Johnson)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 06:12:01 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Consulting opportunity
In-Reply-To: <D2C6AB7E6EDFD94788D27D1F537FCC38391745DB@VMBX102.ihostexchange.net>
References: <D2C6AB7E6EDFD94788D27D1F537FCC38391745DB@VMBX102.ihostexchange.net>
Message-ID: <47835A81.5090400@acm.org>

Mr. Morris,

    I'm a Rails developer here in Chapel Hill. I work out of my home for 
IBM. I can be available on a part time basis for up to 20 hours a week. 
As part of those hours, I can be on site at your offices twice a week 
for a half day, about 10 hours. Monday and Friday afternoons work well 
for me but I am also somewhat flexible in what those on-site times can 
be. My rate is $65/hour.

    Please feel free to call me or email me to discuss your project further.

Thank you,
Sean Johnson
919-969-1493

Lindsay Morris wrote:
>
> We are working on a product, and could use some part-time help.
>
> Outsourcing hasn't worked that well for us - we'd like someone who can 
> come in and work with us in our office (halfway between Durham and 
> Chapel Hill).
>
> It'll be a lot of basic training for us, so we don't need a rock star 
> - just someone who can figure out a Rails application and tweak it.
>
>  
>
> Please let us know how many days a week you can be available, and the 
> billing rate you're asking.
>
> Thanks!
>
>  
>
> -------------------------
>
> Mr. Lindsay Morris
>
> Principal
>
> TSMworks, Inc.
>
> lindsay at tsmworks.com
>
> 859-539-9900
>
>  
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From BeLucid at acm.org  Tue Jan  8 07:32:18 2008
From: BeLucid at acm.org (Sean Johnson)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 07:32:18 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Consulting opportunity
In-Reply-To: <47835A81.5090400@acm.org>
References: <D2C6AB7E6EDFD94788D27D1F537FCC38391745DB@VMBX102.ihostexchange.net>
	<47835A81.5090400@acm.org>
Message-ID: <47836D52.40602@acm.org>

I failed to mention it, but anyone else in the area who might be 
interested in consulting is of course free to contact me as well.

Thanks,
Sean

Sean Johnson wrote:
> Mr. Morris,
>
>     I'm a Rails developer here in Chapel Hill. I work out of my home for 
> IBM. I can be available on a part time basis for up to 20 hours a week. 
> As part of those hours, I can be on site at your offices twice a week 
> for a half day, about 10 hours. Monday and Friday afternoons work well 
> for me but I am also somewhat flexible in what those on-site times can 
> be. My rate is $65/hour.
>
>     Please feel free to call me or email me to discuss your project further.
>
> Thank you,
> Sean Johnson
> 919-969-1493
>
> Lindsay Morris wrote:
>   
>> We are working on a product, and could use some part-time help.
>>
>> Outsourcing hasn't worked that well for us - we'd like someone who can 
>> come in and work with us in our office (halfway between Durham and 
>> Chapel Hill).
>>
>> It'll be a lot of basic training for us, so we don't need a rock star 
>> - just someone who can figure out a Rails application and tweak it.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Please let us know how many days a week you can be available, and the 
>> billing rate you're asking.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>  
>>
>> -------------------------
>>
>> Mr. Lindsay Morris
>>
>> Principal
>>
>> TSMworks, Inc.
>>
>> lindsay at tsmworks.com
>>
>> 859-539-9900
>>
>>  
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>     
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>   


From BeLucid at acm.org  Tue Jan  8 07:41:53 2008
From: BeLucid at acm.org (Sean Johnson)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 07:41:53 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2
Message-ID: <47836F91.8090805@acm.org>

Fellows,

    At this point I assume most people have had a chance to play with 
Rails 2. What does everyone think? I've been most impressed by the 
performance improvements. I moved an application that was experiencing 
performance problems (and that I was about to add extensive fragment 
caching to) to Rails 2.0 and saw a 350-400% performance improvement on 
the problematic pages. The built in query caching is also a big 
performance win.

    If you cleanup all your deprecations with 1.2.x there seems to be a 
pretty smooth transition to Rails 2. The one issue I've fought with in 
porting some Rails 1 applications is that it appears that undefined 
variables are no longer allowed in ERb templates. An application that 
might have made extensive use of a conditional on an variable where it 
is set to true if true and never defined if false will run into trouble 
now. You need to test for true and defined now:

Before-

if(undefined_variable) then
   ...stuff...
end

Rails 2

if(defined? undefined_variable) then
   ...stuff...
end

Thanks,
Sean


From lindsay at TSMworks.com  Tue Jan  8 08:52:00 2008
From: lindsay at TSMworks.com (Lindsay Morris)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 08:52:00 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Consulting opportunity
Message-ID: <D2C6AB7E6EDFD94788D27D1F537FCC38390D6D32@VMBX102.ihostexchange.net>

Thanks, Sean.  I'll keep you in mind.
Your rate is a bit high for us.  If we guarantee a block of time, can you flex on the rate?

Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org <raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org>
To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb <raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org>
Sent: Tue Jan 08 06:12:01 2008
Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] Consulting opportunity

Mr. Morris,

    I'm a Rails developer here in Chapel Hill. I work out of my home for
IBM. I can be available on a part time basis for up to 20 hours a week.
As part of those hours, I can be on site at your offices twice a week
for a half day, about 10 hours. Monday and Friday afternoons work well
for me but I am also somewhat flexible in what those on-site times can
be. My rate is $65/hour.

    Please feel free to call me or email me to discuss your project further.

Thank you,
Sean Johnson
919-969-1493

Lindsay Morris wrote:
>
> We are working on a product, and could use some part-time help.
>
> Outsourcing hasn't worked that well for us - we'd like someone who can
> come in and work with us in our office (halfway between Durham and
> Chapel Hill).
>
> It'll be a lot of basic training for us, so we don't need a rock star
> - just someone who can figure out a Rails application and tweak it.
>
>
>
> Please let us know how many days a week you can be available, and the
> billing rate you're asking.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> -------------------------
>
> Mr. Lindsay Morris
>
> Principal
>
> TSMworks, Inc.
>
> lindsay at tsmworks.com
>
> 859-539-9900
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

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From pelargir at gmail.com  Tue Jan  8 08:58:39 2008
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew Bass)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 08:58:39 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2
In-Reply-To: <47836F91.8090805@acm.org>
References: <47836F91.8090805@acm.org>
Message-ID: <c2eae3390801080558l39a1387dv9878e81c5a70290e@mail.gmail.com>

I've been very impressed with Rails 2 as well.  The only problems I've been
running into are plugins that haven't yet been updated to work with Rails 2,
but these are few and far between for me so far. I really like the new
/initializers folder. It really cuts down on the cruft in the
environment.rbfile.
Matthew


On 1/8/08, Sean Johnson <BeLucid at acm.org> wrote:
>
> Fellows,
>
>     At this point I assume most people have had a chance to play with
> Rails 2. What does everyone think? I've been most impressed by the
> performance improvements. I moved an application that was experiencing
> performance problems (and that I was about to add extensive fragment
> caching to) to Rails 2.0 and saw a 350-400% performance improvement on
> the problematic pages. The built in query caching is also a big
> performance win.
>
>     If you cleanup all your deprecations with 1.2.x there seems to be a
> pretty smooth transition to Rails 2. The one issue I've fought with in
> porting some Rails 1 applications is that it appears that undefined
> variables are no longer allowed in ERb templates. An application that
> might have made extensive use of a conditional on an variable where it
> is set to true if true and never defined if false will run into trouble
> now. You need to test for true and defined now:
>
> Before-
>
> if(undefined_variable) then
>    ...stuff...
> end
>
> Rails 2
>
> if(defined? undefined_variable) then
>    ...stuff...
> end
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Tue Jan  8 10:28:04 2008
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 10:28:04 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2
In-Reply-To: <c2eae3390801080558l39a1387dv9878e81c5a70290e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47836F91.8090805@acm.org>
	<c2eae3390801080558l39a1387dv9878e81c5a70290e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0801080728g7f2c899dgf88a739dca85c104@mail.gmail.com>

On Jan 8, 2008 8:58 AM, Matthew Bass <pelargir at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been very impressed with Rails 2 as well.  The only problems I've been
> running into are plugins that haven't yet been updated to work with Rails 2,
> but these are few and far between for me so far. I really like the new
> /initializers folder. It really cuts down on the cruft in the environment.rb
> file.

Lots of nice new stuff. I like the new fixture stuff, almost makes
fixtures palatable even more so if you use something like Rspec.

I've done a few little personal Rails 2 projects, and I'm becoming a
convert to the rails flavor of REST as well.

-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

From pelargir at gmail.com  Tue Jan  8 10:38:25 2008
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew Bass)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 10:38:25 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0801080728g7f2c899dgf88a739dca85c104@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47836F91.8090805@acm.org>
	<c2eae3390801080558l39a1387dv9878e81c5a70290e@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0801080728g7f2c899dgf88a739dca85c104@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c2eae3390801080738j42fde567lfabb9404251b49d4@mail.gmail.com>

Agreed. I've fallen in love with the fixture_replacement plugin myself. It
makes it really easy to create custom AR instances on the fly, without
having to tie everything together manually.

http://thmadb.com/public_svn/plugins/fixture_replacement/


There is also a new fixture_replacement2 found here:


http://thmadb.com/public_svn/plugins/fixture_replacement2/

It uses a slightly different format in the example_data.rb file.

Matthew


On 1/8/08, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Jan 8, 2008 8:58 AM, Matthew Bass <pelargir at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've been very impressed with Rails 2 as well.  The only problems I've
> been
> > running into are plugins that haven't yet been updated to work with
> Rails 2,
> > but these are few and far between for me so far. I really like the new
> > /initializers folder. It really cuts down on the cruft in the
> environment.rb
> > file.
>
> Lots of nice new stuff. I like the new fixture stuff, almost makes
> fixtures palatable even more so if you use something like Rspec.
>
> I've done a few little personal Rails 2 projects, and I'm becoming a
> convert to the rails flavor of REST as well.
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From otto.hammersmith at gmail.com  Tue Jan  8 11:07:44 2008
From: otto.hammersmith at gmail.com (Otto Hammersmith)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 11:07:44 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails 2
In-Reply-To: <47836F91.8090805@acm.org>
References: <47836F91.8090805@acm.org>
Message-ID: <b6cf62600801080807t153a332bu242c8d2b8153cfd@mail.gmail.com>

I had some issues with rSpec, but they've released a new version that works
cleanly now.  I just had to use edge rails and edge rSpec for about a week.

The RESTful stuff in 2 is much nicer, though not 100% complete still (the
JSON stuff, AFICT isn't quite done for de-serializing from JSON).


On Jan 8, 2008 7:41 AM, Sean Johnson <BeLucid at acm.org> wrote:

> Fellows,
>
>    At this point I assume most people have had a chance to play with
> Rails 2. What does everyone think? I've been most impressed by the
> performance improvements. I moved an application that was experiencing
> performance problems (and that I was about to add extensive fragment
> caching to) to Rails 2.0 and saw a 350-400% performance improvement on
> the problematic pages. The built in query caching is also a big
> performance win.
>
>    If you cleanup all your deprecations with 1.2.x there seems to be a
> pretty smooth transition to Rails 2. The one issue I've fought with in
> porting some Rails 1 applications is that it appears that undefined
> variables are no longer allowed in ERb templates. An application that
> might have made extensive use of a conditional on an variable where it
> is set to true if true and never defined if false will run into trouble
> now. You need to test for true and defined now:
>
> Before-
>
> if(undefined_variable) then
>   ...stuff...
> end
>
> Rails 2
>
> if(defined? undefined_variable) then
>   ...stuff...
> end
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From mark at 37signals.com  Thu Jan 10 11:21:32 2008
From: mark at 37signals.com (Mark Imbriaco)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:21:32 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Real estate help.
Message-ID: <83D25DAE-7174-4644-9E30-24CC565EC0CE@37signals.com>


Just wanted to post a quick note of thanks to everyone who gave me  
advice about the area.

My family and I visited last weekend for 3 days and looked at a truly  
ridiculous number of houses.  We finally settled on one that we liked  
the best, and made an offer last night that was accepted this morning  
by the builder.  We'll be closing on a house in Heritage Wake Forest  
on March 15th and will be moving shortly thereafter.  I'm looking  
forward to meeting everyone.

Thanks again,
-Mark


From tj at stank.us  Thu Jan 10 11:48:22 2008
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:48:22 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Real estate help.
In-Reply-To: <83D25DAE-7174-4644-9E30-24CC565EC0CE@37signals.com>
References: <83D25DAE-7174-4644-9E30-24CC565EC0CE@37signals.com>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60801100848q3390cd7fu40f7f5a01acc205b@mail.gmail.com>

Congrats! Looking forward to having you at raleigh.rb.

-TJ

On Jan 10, 2008 11:21 AM, Mark Imbriaco <mark at 37signals.com> wrote:
>
> Just wanted to post a quick note of thanks to everyone who gave me
> advice about the area.
>
> My family and I visited last weekend for 3 days and looked at a truly
> ridiculous number of houses.  We finally settled on one that we liked
> the best, and made an offer last night that was accepted this morning
> by the builder.  We'll be closing on a house in Heritage Wake Forest
> on March 15th and will be moving shortly thereafter.  I'm looking
> forward to meeting everyone.
>
> Thanks again,
> -Mark
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From fatcatt316 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 10 11:50:40 2008
From: fatcatt316 at yahoo.com (Joe Peck)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:50:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Real estate help.
In-Reply-To: <83D25DAE-7174-4644-9E30-24CC565EC0CE@37signals.com>
Message-ID: <677908.69149.qm@web61216.mail.yahoo.com>

Welcome to the mean streets of the Triangle.

Joe

Mark Imbriaco <mark at 37signals.com> wrote: 
Just wanted to post a quick note of thanks to everyone who gave me  
advice about the area.

My family and I visited last weekend for 3 days and looked at a truly  
ridiculous number of houses.  We finally settled on one that we liked  
the best, and made an offer last night that was accepted this morning  
by the builder.  We'll be closing on a house in Heritage Wake Forest  
on March 15th and will be moving shortly thereafter.  I'm looking  
forward to meeting everyone.

Thanks again,
-Mark

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From minter at lunenburg.org  Thu Jan 10 11:54:54 2008
From: minter at lunenburg.org (H. Wade Minter)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:54:54 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Real estate help.
In-Reply-To: <83D25DAE-7174-4644-9E30-24CC565EC0CE@37signals.com>
References: <83D25DAE-7174-4644-9E30-24CC565EC0CE@37signals.com>
Message-ID: <73643240-99D0-43C0-A69D-5EB49F658A2C@lunenburg.org>

You're up in my area then (I'm just down Rogers Rd. in Rolesville).

Hope you don't have to go out to Chapel Hill very often - that's a  
long drive.

--Wade

On Jan 10, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Mark Imbriaco wrote:

>
> Just wanted to post a quick note of thanks to everyone who gave me
> advice about the area.
>
> My family and I visited last weekend for 3 days and looked at a truly
> ridiculous number of houses.  We finally settled on one that we liked
> the best, and made an offer last night that was accepted this morning
> by the builder.  We'll be closing on a house in Heritage Wake Forest
> on March 15th and will be moving shortly thereafter.  I'm looking
> forward to meeting everyone.
>
> Thanks again,
> -Mark
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From randomutterings at gmail.com  Fri Jan 11 12:35:53 2008
From: randomutterings at gmail.com (Chris Barnes)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:35:53 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Styling Ajax Buttons
Message-ID: <52c57d810801110935i666eacddjc13cc651b102b4be@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone know how to style an ajax button?  It works for submit_tag but not
submit_to_remote.

<%= submit_to_remote 'update_btn', 'Update', :url => { :action => 'update'
}, :style => "width:60px;" %>


Well the submit_tag I have looks like this.

<%= submit_tag "Create", {:style => "margin-top:10px;width:60px;"} %>
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From randomutterings at gmail.com  Fri Jan 11 12:40:51 2008
From: randomutterings at gmail.com (Chris Barnes)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:40:51 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Styling Ajax Buttons
In-Reply-To: <52c57d810801110935i666eacddjc13cc651b102b4be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <52c57d810801110935i666eacddjc13cc651b102b4be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52c57d810801110940x15ad82esd98522af044a8588@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry guys, I figured it out.

<%= submit_to_remote('update_btn', 'Update', :url => { :action => 'update'},
:html => {:style => "width:60px;"}) %>

On Jan 11, 2008 12:35 PM, Chris Barnes <randomutterings at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone know how to style an ajax button?  It works for submit_tag but not
> submit_to_remote.
>
> <%= submit_to_remote 'update_btn', 'Update', :url => { :action => 'update'
> }, :style => "width:60px;" %>
>
>
> Well the submit_tag I have looks like this.
>
> <%= submit_tag "Create", {:style => "margin-top:10px;width:60px;"} %>
>
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From rhooker at cisco.com  Fri Jan 11 14:03:03 2008
From: rhooker at cisco.com (Raymond Hooker (rhooker))
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:03:03 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Install Wizard
In-Reply-To: <52c57d810801110940x15ad82esd98522af044a8588@mail.gmail.com>
References: <52c57d810801110935i666eacddjc13cc651b102b4be@mail.gmail.com>
	<52c57d810801110940x15ad82esd98522af044a8588@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05B36535@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>

Any suggestions for an install wizard SDK to create a distributable
RAILS app to a windows desktop?  RubyStack is great for installing most
of the dependencies, but I don't see a way to avoid the user setting up
the ports... plus I need to also install the application code and do
setup items such as add a service and a start menu item.
 
Ray
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From rhooker at cisco.com  Sat Jan 12 11:47:51 2008
From: rhooker at cisco.com (Raymond Hooker (rhooker))
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:47:51 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Install Wizard
In-Reply-To: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05B36535@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
References: <52c57d810801110935i666eacddjc13cc651b102b4be@mail.gmail.com><52c57d810801110940x15ad82esd98522af044a8588@mail.gmail.com>
	<848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05B36535@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05B366DA@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>

I may be answering my own question. I found a reference to Inno Setup
Installer:
http://rubyonwindows.blogspot.com/2007/09/installing-your-ruby-app-with-
inno.html
 
They also had an article on RubyScript2Exe.
 
My thoughts are to use RubyStack for the basics and Inno Setup as the
overall controller. Of course I will need to provide more detailed
instructions such as ports to use, but it may do for the time being.  I
would like the user to be saved from as many of the details as possible
(and opportunities for errors and mistakes).
 
Ray

________________________________

From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Raymond
Hooker (rhooker)
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:03 PM
To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Install Wizard


Any suggestions for an install wizard SDK to create a distributable
RAILS app to a windows desktop?  RubyStack is great for installing most
of the dependencies, but I don't see a way to avoid the user setting up
the ports... plus I need to also install the application code and do
setup items such as add a service and a start menu item.
 
Ray
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From atomgiant at gmail.com  Sat Jan 12 20:05:37 2008
From: atomgiant at gmail.com (Tom Davies)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:05:37 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Install Wizard
In-Reply-To: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05B366DA@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
References: <52c57d810801110935i666eacddjc13cc651b102b4be@mail.gmail.com>
	<52c57d810801110940x15ad82esd98522af044a8588@mail.gmail.com>
	<848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05B36535@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
	<848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05B366DA@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <ae7de0050801121705v7443cbd5g6a6bae5a9f9bc84e@mail.gmail.com>

It might be worth taking a look at Slingshot too:
http://www.joyent.com/developers/slingshot/ (although the download
link looks like it is currently down).

I haven't used it but it allows you to provide an offline mode for
Rails apps and says it supports pushing updates out.  There might be a
way to run your app in offline-only mode if that is what you are
after.

It is free and open source.

Tom

On Jan 12, 2008 11:47 AM, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) <rhooker at cisco.com> wrote:
>
>
> I may be answering my own question. I found a reference to Inno Setup
> Installer:
> http://rubyonwindows.blogspot.com/2007/09/installing-your-ruby-app-with-inno.html
>
> They also had an article on RubyScript2Exe.
>
> My thoughts are to use RubyStack for the basics and Inno Setup as the
> overall controller. Of course I will need to provide more detailed
> instructions such as ports to use, but it may do for the time being.  I
> would like the user to be saved from as many of the details as possible (and
> opportunities for errors and mistakes).
>
> Ray
>
>  ________________________________
>  From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org
> [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Raymond
> Hooker (rhooker)
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:03 PM
> To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
> Subject: [raleigh.rb] Install Wizard
>
>
>
> Any suggestions for an install wizard SDK to create a distributable RAILS
> app to a windows desktop?  RubyStack is great for installing most of the
> dependencies, but I don't see a way to avoid the user setting up the
> ports... plus I need to also install the application code and do setup items
> such as add a service and a start menu item.
>
> Ray
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
Tom Davies

http://atomgiant.com
http://gifthat.com

From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Mon Jan 14 14:11:08 2008
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:11:08 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
Message-ID: <4ce336a20801141111i566ae7dbmfd67635ebe6cc3e@mail.gmail.com>

As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30
tomorrow night at Baja Burrito (http://tinyurl.com/2o2luk) to grab
dinner and some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the
meeting.

While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.

Looking forward to it,


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From fmedlin at gmail.com  Mon Jan 14 14:19:32 2008
From: fmedlin at gmail.com (Fred Medlin)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:19:32 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20801141111i566ae7dbmfd67635ebe6cc3e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20801141111i566ae7dbmfd67635ebe6cc3e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <579ca95c0801141119y1675b47y560bd32424716659@mail.gmail.com>

In

On Jan 14, 2008 2:11 PM, Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:

> As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30
> tomorrow night at Baja Burrito (http://tinyurl.com/2o2luk) to grab
> dinner and some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the
> meeting.
>
> While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
>
> Looking forward to it,
>
>
> --
> Nathaniel Talbott
> <:((><
> _______________________________________________
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com  Mon Jan 14 14:33:12 2008
From: mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com (Mark Bennett)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:33:12 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <579ca95c0801141119y1675b47y560bd32424716659@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20801141111i566ae7dbmfd67635ebe6cc3e@mail.gmail.com>
	<579ca95c0801141119y1675b47y560bd32424716659@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b2e941150801141133g9b057cawf434640597806cc1@mail.gmail.com>

me too

On Jan 14, 2008 2:19 PM, Fred Medlin <fmedlin at gmail.com> wrote:

> In
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2008 2:11 PM, Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:
>
> > As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30
> > tomorrow night at Baja Burrito (http://tinyurl.com/2o2luk) to grab
> > dinner and some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the
> > meeting.
> >
> > While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> > with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
> >
> > Looking forward to it,
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nathaniel Talbott
> > <:((><
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From larry.karnowski at gmail.com  Mon Jan 14 21:01:48 2008
From: larry.karnowski at gmail.com (Larry Karnowski)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:01:48 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <b2e941150801141133g9b057cawf434640597806cc1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20801141111i566ae7dbmfd67635ebe6cc3e@mail.gmail.com>
	<579ca95c0801141119y1675b47y560bd32424716659@mail.gmail.com>
	<b2e941150801141133g9b057cawf434640597806cc1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2b27183e0801141801o120befd6j7867d77371fa37c@mail.gmail.com>

I should be there.

On Jan 14, 2008 2:33 PM, Mark Bennett <mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com> wrote:
> me too
>
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2008 2:19 PM, Fred Medlin <fmedlin at gmail.com> wrote:
> > In
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 14, 2008 2:11 PM, Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:
> >
> > > As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30
> > > tomorrow night at Baja Burrito (http://tinyurl.com/2o2luk) to grab
> > > dinner and some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the
> > > meeting.
> > >
> > > While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> > > with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to it,
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Nathaniel Talbott
> > > <:((><
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From brentmc79 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 15 10:32:10 2008
From: brentmc79 at gmail.com (Brent Collier)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:32:10 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <2b27183e0801141801o120befd6j7867d77371fa37c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20801141111i566ae7dbmfd67635ebe6cc3e@mail.gmail.com>
	<579ca95c0801141119y1675b47y560bd32424716659@mail.gmail.com>
	<b2e941150801141133g9b057cawf434640597806cc1@mail.gmail.com>
	<2b27183e0801141801o120befd6j7867d77371fa37c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aab58e440801150732p659a8761s3c37986b081d9d88@mail.gmail.com>

I'll try to be there, but I'm coming all the way from north of DC, so I'm
not sure if I'll make it in time.

-Brent Collier

On Jan 14, 2008 9:01 PM, Larry Karnowski <larry.karnowski at gmail.com> wrote:

> I should be there.
>
> On Jan 14, 2008 2:33 PM, Mark Bennett <mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com> wrote:
> > me too
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 14, 2008 2:19 PM, Fred Medlin <fmedlin at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > In
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jan 14, 2008 2:11 PM, Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel at talbott.ws>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30
> > > > tomorrow night at Baja Burrito (http://tinyurl.com/2o2luk) to grab
> > > > dinner and some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the
> > > > meeting.
> > > >
> > > > While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> > > > with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
> > > >
> > > > Looking forward to it,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nathaniel Talbott
> > > > <:((><
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
Brent Collier | 804.405.8632 | www.BrentCollier.com
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From egs at egsavage.com  Tue Jan 15 16:14:14 2008
From: egs at egsavage.com (Edward G. Savage)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:14:14 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20801141111i566ae7dbmfd67635ebe6cc3e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20801141111i566ae7dbmfd67635ebe6cc3e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <478D2226.4050604@egsavage.com>

In!

Nathaniel Talbott wrote:
> As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30
> tomorrow night at Baja Burrito (http://tinyurl.com/2o2luk) to grab
> dinner and some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the
> meeting.
> 
> While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
> 
> Looking forward to it,
> 
> 

From atomgiant at gmail.com  Tue Jan 15 16:53:07 2008
From: atomgiant at gmail.com (Tom Davies)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:53:07 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <478D2226.4050604@egsavage.com>
References: <4ce336a20801141111i566ae7dbmfd67635ebe6cc3e@mail.gmail.com>
	<478D2226.4050604@egsavage.com>
Message-ID: <ae7de0050801151353u5a2fd743gabee4c028761d8a6@mail.gmail.com>

I am in as well.

On Jan 15, 2008 4:14 PM, Edward G. Savage <egs at egsavage.com> wrote:
> In!
>
> Nathaniel Talbott wrote:
> > As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30
> > tomorrow night at Baja Burrito (http://tinyurl.com/2o2luk) to grab
> > dinner and some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the
> > meeting.
> >
> > While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> > with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
> >
> > Looking forward to it,
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
Tom Davies

http://atomgiant.com
http://gifthat.com

From aaron at schrab.com  Tue Jan 15 16:15:56 2008
From: aaron at schrab.com (Aaron Schrab)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:15:56 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20801141111i566ae7dbmfd67635ebe6cc3e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20801141111i566ae7dbmfd67635ebe6cc3e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B6B829AD-F41D-42A7-A2E9-F523C74A1557@schrab.com>


I'm in


On Jan 14, 2008, at 14:11, "Nathaniel Talbott" <nathaniel at talbott.ws>  
wrote:

> As usual, anyone who's available is invited to join me at 5:30
> tomorrow night at Baja Burrito (http://tinyurl.com/2o2luk) to grab
> dinner and some Ruby chatter before heading over to Red Hat for the
> meeting.
>
> While by no means required, a quick RSVP (just reply to this email
> with "In!" or somesuch) would be great.
>
> Looking forward to it,
>
>
> -- 
> Nathaniel Talbott
> <:((><
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

From wesleyzhang2005 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 10:05:50 2008
From: wesleyzhang2005 at gmail.com (Wesley Zhang)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:05:50 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
Message-ID: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>

Have been playing Ruby/ Rails a while. Would prefer a in-depth Ruby and
Rails in-class systematic learning experience.

Local to RTP will be great.

Thanks,

Wesley
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From lindsay at TSMworks.com  Wed Jan 16 10:07:53 2008
From: lindsay at TSMworks.com (Lindsay Morris)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:07:53 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
In-Reply-To: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D2C6AB7E6EDFD94788D27D1F537FCC3839174F85@VMBX102.ihostexchange.net>

I'd be interested in that class too.

From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Wesley Zhang
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:06 AM
To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?

Have been playing Ruby/ Rails a while. Would prefer a in-depth Ruby and Rails in-class systematic learning experience.

Local to RTP will be great.

Thanks,

Wesley
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From mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 10:12:03 2008
From: mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com (Mark Bennett)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:12:03 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
In-Reply-To: <D2C6AB7E6EDFD94788D27D1F537FCC3839174F85@VMBX102.ihostexchange.net>
References: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<D2C6AB7E6EDFD94788D27D1F537FCC3839174F85@VMBX102.ihostexchange.net>
Message-ID: <b2e941150801160712q1b07ee6fw92909b65dacc48c6@mail.gmail.com>

I apologize if you are already familiar with these.  It's not a class but if
you put the two together it comes sort of close.

http://railscasts.com/
http://ruby.meetup.com/3/calendar/7113149/

HTH

Mark

On Jan 16, 2008 10:07 AM, Lindsay Morris <lindsay at tsmworks.com> wrote:

>  I'd be interested in that class too.
>
>
>
> *From:* raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:
> raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] *On Behalf Of *Wesley Zhang
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:06 AM
> *To:* The mailing list of raleigh.rb
> *Subject:* [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
>
>
>
> Have been playing Ruby/ Rails a while. Would prefer a in-depth Ruby and
> Rails in-class systematic learning experience.
>
> Local to RTP will be great.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wesley
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From ddmichaelson at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 10:32:17 2008
From: ddmichaelson at gmail.com (David Michaelson)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:32:17 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
In-Reply-To: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9ff8f6bc0801160732j27570444tc21e547c3682732a@mail.gmail.com>

I would be interested in something like that as well.

-David

On Jan 16, 2008 10:05 AM, Wesley Zhang <wesleyzhang2005 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Have been playing Ruby/ Rails a while. Would prefer a in-depth Ruby and
> Rails in-class systematic learning experience.
>
> Local to RTP will be great.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wesley
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From lawwton at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 10:41:03 2008
From: lawwton at gmail.com (Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:41:03 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
In-Reply-To: <9ff8f6bc0801160732j27570444tc21e547c3682732a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<9ff8f6bc0801160732j27570444tc21e547c3682732a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5fe6fa8f0801160741l733a9c63h23f66738b1546198@mail.gmail.com>

Same here.

Alfredo

On Jan 16, 2008 10:32 AM, David Michaelson <ddmichaelson at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would be interested in something like that as well.
>
> -David
>
> On Jan 16, 2008 10:05 AM, Wesley Zhang <wesleyzhang2005 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Have been playing Ruby/ Rails a while. Would prefer a in-depth Ruby and
> > Rails in-class systematic learning experience.
> >
> > Local to RTP will be great.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Wesley
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From david.lanouette at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 10:50:30 2008
From: david.lanouette at gmail.com (David)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:50:30 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
In-Reply-To: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f57b85d60801160750t5638b3b0id4716294b20f3697@mail.gmail.com>

Take a look at the Pragmatic Studio. (never been, but I've heard great
things about it)
http://pragmaticstudio.com/

Nothing scheduled for RTP, but if you can generate enough demand they might
schedule one...







On Jan 16, 2008 10:05 AM, Wesley Zhang <wesleyzhang2005 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Have been playing Ruby/ Rails a while. Would prefer a in-depth Ruby and
> Rails in-class systematic learning experience.
>
> Local to RTP will be great.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wesley
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From randomutterings at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 11:01:54 2008
From: randomutterings at gmail.com (Chris Barnes)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:01:54 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] PHP Developer Needed for short jog
Message-ID: <52c57d810801160801o36718e7dy7681b7e632442baa@mail.gmail.com>

Hey guys, I know this is a ruby group so forgive me for posting it here but
I'm sure several of you came from php and I have a customer that I did a php
site for a while back (before I was converted) and he needs some minor
tweaks done to it.  I don't have the time or staff to get it done for him
until March so I was wondering if anyone would be interested.  I would guess
somewhere around 10 hours of work but whatever estimate you give me is what
we'll go with as I haven't reviewed the code in detail.  If anyone is
interested, email me your rate and availability.
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From brenton.leanhardt at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 11:15:08 2008
From: brenton.leanhardt at gmail.com (brenton leanhardt)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:15:08 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
In-Reply-To: <f57b85d60801160750t5638b3b0id4716294b20f3697@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60801160750t5638b3b0id4716294b20f3697@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7c0835400801160815x69c31c3bk2659a7b2deb6eab@mail.gmail.com>

I took the Advanced Ruby training through the pragmatic studio and I
definitely think it's worth the money.

On Jan 16, 2008 10:50 AM, David <david.lanouette at gmail.com> wrote:
> Take a look at the Pragmatic Studio. (never been, but I've heard great
> things about it)
> http://pragmaticstudio.com/
>
> Nothing scheduled for RTP, but if you can generate enough demand they might
> schedule one...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2008 10:05 AM, Wesley Zhang <wesleyzhang2005 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Have been playing Ruby/ Rails a while. Would prefer a in-depth Ruby and
> Rails in-class systematic learning experience.
> >
> > Local to RTP will be great.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Wesley
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From curtismitchell at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 11:44:47 2008
From: curtismitchell at gmail.com (Curtis Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:44:47 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
In-Reply-To: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c137c5970801160844k369290dbs6fc2f9aca7724309@mail.gmail.com>

The Hack nights with the Ruby Meetup group are a great opportunity to sit
with experienced Ruby developers and learn.  I try to take advantage every
chance I get.




On 1/16/08, Wesley Zhang <wesleyzhang2005 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Have been playing Ruby/ Rails a while. Would prefer a in-depth Ruby and
> Rails in-class systematic learning experience.
>
> Local to RTP will be great.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wesley
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Wed Jan 16 12:31:39 2008
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:31:39 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
In-Reply-To: <f57b85d60801160750t5638b3b0id4716294b20f3697@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60801160750t5638b3b0id4716294b20f3697@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ce336a20801160931q630c097bye7f5cb54d8060cf4@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/16/08, David <david.lanouette at gmail.com> wrote:

> Take a look at the Pragmatic Studio. (never been, but
> I've heard great things about it)
> http://pragmaticstudio.com/
>
> Nothing scheduled for RTP, but if you can generate enough
> demand they might schedule one...

I just pinged the Pragmatic Studio folks about this thread and the
increase in local Rubyists we're seeing - 60+ folks at the meeting
last night! Not sure how they choose where to hold classes, but I
think Raleigh's looking like a pretty compelling spot for some
professional training to happen.


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From kevin at near-time.com  Wed Jan 16 12:47:41 2008
From: kevin at near-time.com (Kevin Olbrich)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:47:41 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Near-Time is hiring
Message-ID: <b84fa5050801160947i3cfd453chfe22312fcb6e0c56@mail.gmail.com>

Near-Time (www.near-time.com) is once again looking for some rails
developers (Full time + Benefits).
Some of the skills we are specifically looking for:

1. built at least one Rails app
2. familiarity with RSpec and BDD/TDD
3. Ruby

Bonus points for some Java, Javascript, Selenium, and system admin.

If you are interested, drop me a line and a resume.

Kevin Olbrich, Ph.D.
Sr. Developer
Near-Time, Inc.
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From brentmc79 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 14:58:31 2008
From: brentmc79 at gmail.com (Brent Collier)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:58:31 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Near-Time is hiring
In-Reply-To: <b84fa5050801160947i3cfd453chfe22312fcb6e0c56@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b84fa5050801160947i3cfd453chfe22312fcb6e0c56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aab58e440801161158l418fd506i590e5014fd8b6ebc@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Kevin,

We met at the ruby meetup last night, and I must say that I was very pleased
to see that the ruby community has such a strong presence in the Raleigh
area.  It was really good to get to meet and talk with so many people.
Despite having already attended an AWS talk here in DC, I think my
experience last night was well worth the 9 hours of driving.

As you suggested, I took a look at Near-Time when I got home (around 2am)
and it looks pretty interesting, although I haven't yet had a chance to sign
up and play around with it.  When you get a chance, take a look at my blog
that I set up recently, where you will also find my resume.  It's
acts-as-blogr.com.  While I'm not experienced with RSpec and my javascript
knowledge is somewhat limited, I believe I have everything else that you're
looking for.

I'm looking forward to hearing from you.

-Brent


On Jan 16, 2008 12:47 PM, Kevin Olbrich <kevin at near-time.com> wrote:

> Near-Time (www.near-time.com) is once again looking for some rails
> developers (Full time + Benefits).
> Some of the skills we are specifically looking for:
>
> 1. built at least one Rails app
> 2. familiarity with RSpec and BDD/TDD
> 3. Ruby
>
> Bonus points for some Java, Javascript, Selenium, and system admin.
>
> If you are interested, drop me a line and a resume.
>
> Kevin Olbrich, Ph.D.
> Sr. Developer
> Near-Time, Inc.
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
Brent Collier | 804.405.8632 | www.BrentCollier.com | www.Acts-As-Blogr.com
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From brentmc79 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 15:07:56 2008
From: brentmc79 at gmail.com (Brent Collier)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:07:56 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20801160931q630c097bye7f5cb54d8060cf4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60801160750t5638b3b0id4716294b20f3697@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <aab58e440801161207y197de764j6edf41457701f82d@mail.gmail.com>

A quick Google search yielded this: http://www.raleighonrails.com/

-Brent


On Jan 16, 2008 12:31 PM, Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:

> On 1/16/08, David <david.lanouette at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Take a look at the Pragmatic Studio. (never been, but
> > I've heard great things about it)
> > http://pragmaticstudio.com/
> >
> > Nothing scheduled for RTP, but if you can generate enough
> > demand they might schedule one...
>
> I just pinged the Pragmatic Studio folks about this thread and the
> increase in local Rubyists we're seeing - 60+ folks at the meeting
> last night! Not sure how they choose where to hold classes, but I
> think Raleigh's looking like a pretty compelling spot for some
> professional training to happen.
>
>
> --
> Nathaniel Talbott
> <:((><
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From david.lanouette at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 15:14:21 2008
From: david.lanouette at gmail.com (David)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:14:21 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
In-Reply-To: <aab58e440801161207y197de764j6edf41457701f82d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <f57b85d60801161214t4a1ea303h80fa3b49f288db08@mail.gmail.com>

Doesn't look active anymore.  Next class scheduled for October 2006.





On Jan 16, 2008 3:07 PM, Brent Collier <brentmc79 at gmail.com> wrote:

> A quick Google search yielded this: http://www.raleighonrails.com/
>
> -Brent
>
>
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From brenton.leanhardt at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 15:17:29 2008
From: brenton.leanhardt at gmail.com (brenton leanhardt)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:17:29 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
In-Reply-To: <f57b85d60801161214t4a1ea303h80fa3b49f288db08@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60801160750t5638b3b0id4716294b20f3697@mail.gmail.com>
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On Jan 16, 2008 3:14 PM, David <david.lanouette at gmail.com> wrote:
> Doesn't look active anymore.  Next class scheduled for October 2006.
>
>
Don't you see the big "Coming Soon" button?!? Surely the internet wouldn't lie.

>
>
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2008 3:07 PM, Brent Collier <brentmc79 at gmail.com > wrote:
> > A quick Google search yielded this: http://www.raleighonrails.com/
> >
> > -Brent
> >
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From javery at infozerk.com  Wed Jan 16 15:33:07 2008
From: javery at infozerk.com (James Avery)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:33:07 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] MountainWest RubyConf 2008
Message-ID: <20af90580801161233k5a501a7cs510b5ee2cb7fc3b7@mail.gmail.com>

I saw registration is now open, anyone planning on going? Looks like about
$400 to fly out (but at least its non-stop). How has this conference been in
the past?

http://mtnwestrubyconf.org/

Thanks,

-- 
James Avery
Infozerk Inc.
http://www.infozerk.com
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From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Wed Jan 16 15:57:27 2008
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:57:27 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
In-Reply-To: <7c0835400801161217s508ad601jc7a8d862113cbc52@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60801160750t5638b3b0id4716294b20f3697@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ce336a20801160931q630c097bye7f5cb54d8060cf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<aab58e440801161207y197de764j6edf41457701f82d@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <22EAA52C-6A4D-4A34-A100-5B2FF50D660F@tonyspencer.com>

I'm afraid I'm responsible for that site and indeed its lying.  :)

David Black and I never found time to launch that business fully so  
there are no definite future plans for a course. We did do one intro  
course with a small group and it was excellent so if we had enough  
people interested I could look into organizing another with David.


On Jan 16, 2008, at 3:17 PM, brenton leanhardt wrote:

> On Jan 16, 2008 3:14 PM, David <david.lanouette at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Doesn't look active anymore.  Next class scheduled for October 2006.
>>
>>
> Don't you see the big "Coming Soon" button?!? Surely the internet  
> wouldn't lie.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2008 3:07 PM, Brent Collier <brentmc79 at gmail.com > wrote:
>>> A quick Google search yielded this: http://www.raleighonrails.com/
>>>
>>> -Brent
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>


From tj at stank.us  Wed Jan 16 16:00:01 2008
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:00:01 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
In-Reply-To: <22EAA52C-6A4D-4A34-A100-5B2FF50D660F@tonyspencer.com>
References: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60801160750t5638b3b0id4716294b20f3697@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ce336a20801160931q630c097bye7f5cb54d8060cf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<aab58e440801161207y197de764j6edf41457701f82d@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60801161214t4a1ea303h80fa3b49f288db08@mail.gmail.com>
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	<22EAA52C-6A4D-4A34-A100-5B2FF50D660F@tonyspencer.com>
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60801161300v34c3fdeas6660da622a0089ce@mail.gmail.com>

I saw a bumper sticker for Raliegh On Rails driving through CH a while
back. That must've been you, Tony. :)

-TJ

On Jan 16, 2008 3:57 PM, Tony Spencer <nospam at tonyspencer.com> wrote:
> I'm afraid I'm responsible for that site and indeed its lying.  :)
>
> David Black and I never found time to launch that business fully so
> there are no definite future plans for a course. We did do one intro
> course with a small group and it was excellent so if we had enough
> people interested I could look into organizing another with David.
>
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2008, at 3:17 PM, brenton leanhardt wrote:
>
> > On Jan 16, 2008 3:14 PM, David <david.lanouette at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Doesn't look active anymore.  Next class scheduled for October 2006.
> >>
> >>
> > Don't you see the big "Coming Soon" button?!? Surely the internet
> > wouldn't lie.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 16, 2008 3:07 PM, Brent Collier <brentmc79 at gmail.com > wrote:
> >>> A quick Google search yielded this: http://www.raleighonrails.com/
> >>>
> >>> -Brent
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> >> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Wed Jan 16 16:04:45 2008
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:04:45 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
In-Reply-To: <f25a5bb60801161300v34c3fdeas6660da622a0089ce@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60801160750t5638b3b0id4716294b20f3697@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ce336a20801160931q630c097bye7f5cb54d8060cf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<aab58e440801161207y197de764j6edf41457701f82d@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60801161214t4a1ea303h80fa3b49f288db08@mail.gmail.com>
	<7c0835400801161217s508ad601jc7a8d862113cbc52@mail.gmail.com>
	<22EAA52C-6A4D-4A34-A100-5B2FF50D660F@tonyspencer.com>
	<f25a5bb60801161300v34c3fdeas6660da622a0089ce@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <35D2D74B-ED9E-4604-AFF3-160493096B56@tonyspencer.com>

Thats funny.  Indeed I was living in CH until moving back to Raleigh  
this summer.  I'm nearly sure it was me as I never handed out more  
than a couple of the 1k stickers I had made.


On Jan 16, 2008, at 4:00 PM, TJ Stankus wrote:

> I saw a bumper sticker for Raliegh On Rails driving through CH a while
> back. That must've been you, Tony. :)
>
> -TJ
>
> On Jan 16, 2008 3:57 PM, Tony Spencer <nospam at tonyspencer.com> wrote:
>> I'm afraid I'm responsible for that site and indeed its lying.  :)
>>
>> David Black and I never found time to launch that business fully so
>> there are no definite future plans for a course. We did do one intro
>> course with a small group and it was excellent so if we had enough
>> people interested I could look into organizing another with David.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2008, at 3:17 PM, brenton leanhardt wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2008 3:14 PM, David <david.lanouette at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Doesn't look active anymore.  Next class scheduled for October  
>>>> 2006.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Don't you see the big "Coming Soon" button?!? Surely the internet
>>> wouldn't lie.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 16, 2008 3:07 PM, Brent Collier <brentmc79 at gmail.com >  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> A quick Google search yielded this: http://www.raleighonrails.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> -Brent
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>


From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 17:51:56 2008
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:51:56 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
In-Reply-To: <35D2D74B-ED9E-4604-AFF3-160493096B56@tonyspencer.com>
References: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60801160750t5638b3b0id4716294b20f3697@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ce336a20801160931q630c097bye7f5cb54d8060cf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<aab58e440801161207y197de764j6edf41457701f82d@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60801161214t4a1ea303h80fa3b49f288db08@mail.gmail.com>
	<7c0835400801161217s508ad601jc7a8d862113cbc52@mail.gmail.com>
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	<f25a5bb60801161300v34c3fdeas6660da622a0089ce@mail.gmail.com>
	<35D2D74B-ED9E-4604-AFF3-160493096B56@tonyspencer.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0801161451t3d1dbc27u1d4829191b438015@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/16/08, Tony Spencer <nospam at tonyspencer.com> wrote:
> Thats funny.  Indeed I was living in CH until moving back to Raleigh
> this summer.  I'm nearly sure it was me as I never handed out more
> than a couple of the 1k stickers I had made.

Maybe you could sell them to the Triangle light rail system advocates.

If there are any left.

-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Wed Jan 16 18:00:06 2008
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:00:06 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any ruby/rails class recently?
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0801161451t3d1dbc27u1d4829191b438015@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be24dd650801160705p233e377dq52cb05ca3b6187b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60801160750t5638b3b0id4716294b20f3697@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ce336a20801160931q630c097bye7f5cb54d8060cf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<aab58e440801161207y197de764j6edf41457701f82d@mail.gmail.com>
	<f57b85d60801161214t4a1ea303h80fa3b49f288db08@mail.gmail.com>
	<7c0835400801161217s508ad601jc7a8d862113cbc52@mail.gmail.com>
	<22EAA52C-6A4D-4A34-A100-5B2FF50D660F@tonyspencer.com>
	<f25a5bb60801161300v34c3fdeas6660da622a0089ce@mail.gmail.com>
	<35D2D74B-ED9E-4604-AFF3-160493096B56@tonyspencer.com>
	<deb2337a0801161451t3d1dbc27u1d4829191b438015@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <182B9C5B-83AB-403D-9165-41B3BE1D46D8@tonyspencer.com>

Hehehehe.  The only way light rail will work in this area is as a  
short trip system within the Raleigh downtown area that radiates out  
over time but even still I don't see enough riders for that to make  
sense.

On Jan 16, 2008, at 5:51 PM, Rick DeNatale wrote:

> On 1/16/08, Tony Spencer <nospam at tonyspencer.com> wrote:
>> Thats funny.  Indeed I was living in CH until moving back to Raleigh
>> this summer.  I'm nearly sure it was me as I never handed out more
>> than a couple of the 1k stickers I had made.
>
> Maybe you could sell them to the Triangle light rail system advocates.
>
> If there are any left.
>
> -- 
> Rick DeNatale
>
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>


From tj at stank.us  Wed Jan 16 18:15:14 2008
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:15:14 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] OT: light rail (was  Any ruby/rails class recently?)
Message-ID: <f25a5bb60801161515p472bd6damdfcd8c67920e2f08@mail.gmail.com>

> Hehehehe.  The only way light rail will work in this area is as a
> short trip system within the Raleigh downtown area that radiates out
> over time but even still I don't see enough riders for that to make
> sense.

If it was at least comparable, time-wise, to car travel, I'd happily
use it for trips across the Triangle.



-TJ

From lindsay at TSMworks.com  Thu Jan 17 10:03:09 2008
From: lindsay at TSMworks.com (Lindsay Morris)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:03:09 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] OT: light rail (was Any ruby/rails class recently?)
In-Reply-To: <f25a5bb60801161515p472bd6damdfcd8c67920e2f08@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f25a5bb60801161515p472bd6damdfcd8c67920e2f08@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D2C6AB7E6EDFD94788D27D1F537FCC3839175118@VMBX102.ihostexchange.net>

Sorry for the off-topicness, but here is an interesting and seemingly do-able proposal: SkyTran, http://www.unimodal.com/. It's a lightweight monorail grid system.  It's a LOT cheaper than rail, applies more effectively to a dispersed population, and we'd be able to put a line to the airport!

If you cutting-edge folks care to applaud this idea, perhaps to ellen.beckmann at durhamnc.gov, something might happen.

OK, back to the VIRTUAL Rails talk...

-----Original Message-----
From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of TJ Stankus
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:15 PM
To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
Subject: [raleigh.rb] OT: light rail (was Any ruby/rails class recently?)

> Hehehehe.  The only way light rail will work in this area is as a
> short trip system within the Raleigh downtown area that radiates out
> over time but even still I don't see enough riders for that to make
> sense.

If it was at least comparable, time-wise, to car travel, I'd happily
use it for trips across the Triangle.



-TJ
_______________________________________________
raleigh-rb-members mailing list
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From fatcatt316 at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 17 10:11:45 2008
From: fatcatt316 at yahoo.com (Joe Peck)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:11:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] OT: light rail (was Any ruby/rails class recently?)
In-Reply-To: <D2C6AB7E6EDFD94788D27D1F537FCC3839175118@VMBX102.ihostexchange.net>
Message-ID: <62228.58817.qm@web61219.mail.yahoo.com>

Don't believe the hype, or we might end up like they did in Springfield:
http://www.freewebs.com/mypicturesandsht/simpsons%20monorail.gif

Lindsay Morris <lindsay at TSMworks.com> wrote: Sorry for the off-topicness, but here is an interesting and seemingly do-able proposal: SkyTran, http://www.unimodal.com/. It's a lightweight monorail grid system.  It's a LOT cheaper than rail, applies more effectively to a dispersed population, and we'd be able to put a line to the airport!

If you cutting-edge folks care to applaud this idea, perhaps to ellen.beckmann at durhamnc.gov, something might happen.

OK, back to the VIRTUAL Rails talk...

-----Original Message-----
From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of TJ Stankus
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:15 PM
To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
Subject: [raleigh.rb] OT: light rail (was Any ruby/rails class recently?)

> Hehehehe.  The only way light rail will work in this area is as a
> short trip system within the Raleigh downtown area that radiates out
> over time but even still I don't see enough riders for that to make
> sense.

If it was at least comparable, time-wise, to car travel, I'd happily
use it for trips across the Triangle.



-TJ
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From ahwatts at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 16:07:58 2008
From: ahwatts at gmail.com (Andrew Herr Watts)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:07:58 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Slow HTTP/1.1 requests
Message-ID: <b977e6930801171307ge2f8df3g9e5cc7b16b6a180f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I've been lurking on the list for a while, and thought you guys might
be able to shine some light on an issue that has us stumped.

When we first switched our site, http://www.reverbnation.com, over to
using a load balancer last July, we found that HEAD requests coming
from our CDN were causing slowness when playing songs.  It appears
that when sending HEAD requests that use HTTP/1.1 take an extra 16
seconds to process (for those of you who aren't intimately familiar
with curl's options, -I does a HEAD request, -0 uses HTTP/1.0 instead
of HTTP/1.1):

reverbnation at ziggy:~$ time curl -I -0
http://www.reverbnation.com/schooner # HEAD, HTTP/1.0
(... snipped ...)
real    0m1.094s

reverbnation at ziggy:~$ time curl -I
http://www.reverbnation.com/schooner # HEAD, HTTP/1.1
real    0m17.499s

Addressing one of our servers directly, bypassing the load balancer,
doesn't have this problem:

reverbnation at ziggy:~$ time curl -I -0
http://aretha.reverbnation.com/schooner # HEAD, HTTP/1.0
real    0m0.973s

reverbnation at ziggy:~$ time curl -I
http://aretha.reverbnation.com/schooner # HEAD, HTTP/1.1
real    0m0.684s

Also, doing HTTP GET rather than HTTP HEAD doesn't have this problem:

reverbnation at ziggy:~$ time curl -0
http://www.reverbnation.com/schooner > /dev/null # GET, HTTP/1.0
real    0m1.820s

reverbnation at ziggy:~$ time curl http://www.reverbnation.com/schooner >
/dev/null # GET, HTTP/1.1
real    0m1.210s

Does anybody have any ideas what might be causing this?  It sounds so
far as if the load balancer is the culprit, but then I wrote a quickie
Ruby script which makes these requests at a fairly low level (opens a
socket, sends the request, receives the response), and it is slow with
a similar 16-17 second delay with all HTTP/1.1 requests, HEAD or GET
(I haven't tried a POST request).  It almost sounds like the delay is
in the Ruby networking library.  Do any of you know about a slowness
in the Ruby network stack which could be causing such a reliable
16-second delay with HTTP/1.1 requests?

Any thoughts or questions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Andrew Watts
ahwatts at gmail.com

From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Fri Jan 25 14:46:32 2008
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:46:32 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RailsConf Discount Code
Message-ID: <4ce336a20801251146t304c5438k1e0358aa917edaf1@mail.gmail.com>

RailsConf registration opens any day now, and as they did last year,
O'Reilly is offering a discount code to user's groups. Here it is for
your registering pleasure:

  rc08usrg

Enjoy!


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com  Sat Jan 26 08:18:27 2008
From: mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com (Mark Bennett)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:18:27 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] popularizing
Message-ID: <b2e941150801260518m2ff22db6gd4ce5026153dd08f@mail.gmail.com>

I was looking at odinjobs <http://www.odinjobs.com> today searching for
ruby/rails jobs in the raleigh area and saw that they have a "recommended"
section to "popularize yourself".  Its a section for people with blogs or
for user groups to posts a blurb and a link to their site.  Ok, nothing new
here.

What caught my eye was the advertisement for the Orlando Ruby Users
Group<http://www.orug.org/>.
>From there you could quickly learn about their acts_as_conference event
coming up.  It seemed like a very targeted, non-trashy, and free way to get
the word out.

I wonder if the meetup <http://ruby.meetup.com/3/> site is a good candidate
for this or perhaps the blog aggregator that Matthew was working on.

Mark
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From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Mon Jan 28 09:20:12 2008
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:20:12 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Lightning Talks
Message-ID: <4ce336a20801280620q4770ac1cl6496352d59f77536@mail.gmail.com>

I want to go ahead and pre-announce this so you can start thinking
about what *you'll* give a talk on: for the March 18th meeting we'll
be doing a lightning talk night with a rejectconf twist. What that
means is that there's no hard time limit, but talks will get sorted by
estimated talk time, shortest to longest. The shorter your talk, the
more talks we can see and the more likelihood you'll get to give it.
So start thinking about something quick and cool you could share with
us - it'll be a blast!

I'll of course be sending out multitudinous reminders about this, but
consider yourself on notice :-)

Can't wait,


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Mon Jan 28 09:51:53 2008
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:51:53 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] popularizing
In-Reply-To: <b2e941150801260518m2ff22db6gd4ce5026153dd08f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b2e941150801260518m2ff22db6gd4ce5026153dd08f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ce336a20801280651h2d8a0d89xfd5f3c9036271d0@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/26/08, Mark Bennett <mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was looking at odinjobs today searching for ruby/rails
> jobs in the raleigh area and saw that they have a
> "recommended" section to "popularize yourself".  Its a
> section for people with blogs or for user groups to posts
> a blurb and a link to their site.  Ok, nothing new here.
>
> What caught my eye was the advertisement for the Orlando
> Ruby Users Group.  From there you could quickly learn
> about their acts_as_conference event coming up.  It
> seemed like a very targeted, non-trashy, and free way to
> get the word out.

Very interesting opportunity - I just created a listing for the
meetup, and we'll see if it gets approved. Thanks for pointing this
out, Mark!


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From jeffm.keating at gmail.com  Mon Jan 28 10:41:45 2008
From: jeffm.keating at gmail.com (Jeff Keating)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:41:45 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] car maintenance website
Message-ID: <dbf7d70a0801280741h27e9c691t1bbbe05b844b7e58@mail.gmail.com>

Hey, didn't one of you guys write and publish a personal car-maintenance
record web app a while ago?
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From rhooker at cisco.com  Mon Jan 28 17:59:34 2008
From: rhooker at cisco.com (Raymond Hooker (rhooker))
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:59:34 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] link_to_remote versus button...
In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20801280620q4770ac1cl6496352d59f77536@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20801280620q4770ac1cl6496352d59f77536@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05D0BAD6@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>

 
I have a AJAX powered link as follows:
		<%= link_to_remote 'Export the Template', 
			:url => { :action => 'template_export'},
			:before => "Element.show('export_progress')",
			:complete=> "Element.hide('export_progress')" %>
		<%= image_tag 'ajax-loader-CircleThickbox.gif', :id =>
"export_progress",
			:style => 'display: none' %>

I would like to change to a button, but for some reason the logical name
"button_to_remote" does not exist.  In fact I cannot find anything
comparable.   Any suggestions?

Ray

P.S. - It seems logical to simply the helpers and use similar
nomenclature.  Is that something that the developers might be open
to?... just seems like it would be good to guess and be right rather
than having to search the internet for the proper formula.

From keithfrost at gmail.com  Mon Jan 28 18:03:34 2008
From: keithfrost at gmail.com (Keith Frost)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:03:34 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] link_to_remote versus button...
In-Reply-To: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05D0BAD6@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
References: <4ce336a20801280620q4770ac1cl6496352d59f77536@mail.gmail.com>
	<848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05D0BAD6@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <37928c520801281503q427186d9tcc1db67b47063ea0@mail.gmail.com>

*submit_to_remote*

On Jan 28, 2008 5:59 PM, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) <rhooker at cisco.com> wrote:

>
> I have a AJAX powered link as follows:
>                <%= link_to_remote 'Export the Template',
>                        :url => { :action => 'template_export'},
>                        :before => "Element.show('export_progress')",
>                        :complete=> "Element.hide('export_progress')" %>
>                <%= image_tag 'ajax-loader-CircleThickbox.gif', :id =>
> "export_progress",
>                        :style => 'display: none' %>
>
> I would like to change to a button, but for some reason the logical name
> "button_to_remote" does not exist.  In fact I cannot find anything
> comparable.   Any suggestions?
>
> Ray
>
> P.S. - It seems logical to simply the helpers and use similar
> nomenclature.  Is that something that the developers might be open
> to?... just seems like it would be good to guess and be right rather
> than having to search the internet for the proper formula.
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From jared.haworth at gmail.com  Mon Jan 28 18:04:05 2008
From: jared.haworth at gmail.com (Jared Haworth)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:04:05 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] car maintenance website
In-Reply-To: <dbf7d70a0801280741h27e9c691t1bbbe05b844b7e58@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dbf7d70a0801280741h27e9c691t1bbbe05b844b7e58@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CC9AE5E-303F-46A6-AABA-6F6E77B5F219@gmail.com>

Hi Jeff,

I believe the site you're thinking of is Your Garage Online:  <http://yourgarageonline.com/ 
 >.  It was built by Raleigh.rb member Jared Haworth.  Oh wait, that's  
me :)

Hope that helps!

- J

On Jan 28, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Jeff Keating wrote:

> Hey, didn't one of you guys write and publish a personal car- 
> maintenance record web app a while ago?
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From javery at infozerk.com  Mon Jan 28 18:11:16 2008
From: javery at infozerk.com (James Avery)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:11:16 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] link_to_remote versus button...
In-Reply-To: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05D0BAD6@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
References: <4ce336a20801280620q4770ac1cl6496352d59f77536@mail.gmail.com>
	<848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05D0BAD6@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <20af90580801281511g7a2ce828k30361f687161b185@mail.gmail.com>

You can use either submit_to_remote or you can make your entire form remote
using form_remote_tag.

-James

On 1/28/08, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) <rhooker at cisco.com> wrote:
>
>
> I have a AJAX powered link as follows:
>                 <%= link_to_remote 'Export the Template',
>                         :url => { :action => 'template_export'},
>                         :before => "Element.show('export_progress')",
>                         :complete=> "Element.hide('export_progress')" %>
>                 <%= image_tag 'ajax-loader-CircleThickbox.gif', :id =>
> "export_progress",
>                         :style => 'display: none' %>
>
> I would like to change to a button, but for some reason the logical name
> "button_to_remote" does not exist.  In fact I cannot find anything
> comparable.   Any suggestions?
>
> Ray
>
> P.S. - It seems logical to simply the helpers and use similar
> nomenclature.  Is that something that the developers might be open
> to?... just seems like it would be good to guess and be right rather
> than having to search the internet for the proper formula.
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
James Avery
Infozerk Inc.
http://www.infozerk.com
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From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Mon Jan 28 20:59:51 2008
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:59:51 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RailsConf Discount Code
In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20801251146t304c5438k1e0358aa917edaf1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20801251146t304c5438k1e0358aa917edaf1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ce336a20801281759m625fb83am8a4cb17a913e0676@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/25/08, Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:

> RailsConf registration opens any day now, and as they did last
> year, O'Reilly is offering a discount code to user's groups.
> Here it is for your registering pleasure:
>
>   rc08usrg

I failed to mention the amount of the discount (thanks Ryan!) - it's
supposed to be good for 15%, which is a bit better than the alumni
code of 10%.


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From z at zworkbench.com  Tue Jan 29 06:43:04 2008
From: z at zworkbench.com (Chris Garrett)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 06:43:04 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] link_to_remote versus button...
In-Reply-To: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05D0BAD6@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
References: <4ce336a20801280620q4770ac1cl6496352d59f77536@mail.gmail.com>
	<848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05D0BAD6@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <82883b650801290343y48d87028s59bc7a654dff32d7@mail.gmail.com>

For these general questions like "what is that method called again?" I keep
gotapi.com open in my browser when I am coding.  The site autocompletes
queries, so when you type "remote" you get all the methods with that word in
them.  It's a great API resource for both JS and ruby/rails development.



On Jan 28, 2008 5:59 PM, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) <rhooker at cisco.com> wrote:

>
> I have a AJAX powered link as follows:
>                <%= link_to_remote 'Export the Template',
>                        :url => { :action => 'template_export'},
>                        :before => "Element.show('export_progress')",
>                        :complete=> "Element.hide('export_progress')" %>
>                <%= image_tag 'ajax-loader-CircleThickbox.gif', :id =>
> "export_progress",
>                        :style => 'display: none' %>
>
> I would like to change to a button, but for some reason the logical name
> "button_to_remote" does not exist.  In fact I cannot find anything
> comparable.   Any suggestions?
>
> Ray
>
> P.S. - It seems logical to simply the helpers and use similar
> nomenclature.  Is that something that the developers might be open
> to?... just seems like it would be good to guess and be right rather
> than having to search the internet for the proper formula.
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From ahwatts at gmail.com  Tue Jan 29 09:58:45 2008
From: ahwatts at gmail.com (Andrew Herr Watts)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:58:45 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] link_to_remote versus button...
In-Reply-To: <20af90580801281511g7a2ce828k30361f687161b185@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20801280620q4770ac1cl6496352d59f77536@mail.gmail.com>
	<848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05D0BAD6@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
	<20af90580801281511g7a2ce828k30361f687161b185@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b977e6930801290658t36cbd49ft19cbff44788b1a19@mail.gmail.com>

I've also had luck using button_to_function combined with
remote_function, as well.

Andrew Watts
ahwatts at gmail.com

On Jan 28, 2008 6:11 PM, James Avery <javery at infozerk.com> wrote:
> You can use either submit_to_remote or you can make your entire form remote
> using form_remote_tag.
>
> -James
>
>
>
> On 1/28/08, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) <rhooker at cisco.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have a AJAX powered link as follows:
> >                 <%= link_to_remote 'Export the Template',
> >                         :url => { :action => 'template_export'},
> >                         :before => "Element.show('export_progress')",
> >                         :complete=> "Element.hide('export_progress')" %>
> >                 <%= image_tag 'ajax-loader-CircleThickbox.gif', :id =>
> > "export_progress",
> >                         :style => 'display: none' %>
> >
> > I would like to change to a button, but for some reason the logical name
> > "button_to_remote" does not exist.  In fact I cannot find anything
> > comparable.   Any suggestions?
> >
> > Ray
> >
> > P.S. - It seems logical to simply the helpers and use similar
> > nomenclature.  Is that something that the developers might be open
> > to?... just seems like it would be good to guess and be right rather
> > than having to search the internet for the proper formula.
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
>
>
>
> --
> James Avery
> Infozerk Inc.
> http://www.infozerk.com
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From rhooker at cisco.com  Wed Jan 30 08:52:10 2008
From: rhooker at cisco.com (Raymond Hooker (rhooker))
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:52:10 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] link_to_remote versus button...
In-Reply-To: <82883b650801290343y48d87028s59bc7a654dff32d7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20801280620q4770ac1cl6496352d59f77536@mail.gmail.com><848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05D0BAD6@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
	<82883b650801290343y48d87028s59bc7a654dff32d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05D0C0C8@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>

This really is really good.
 
I need to think about this more, but I wonder if there is a consistent
semantics that might tie together the RAILS UI functions.  So that when
think of something we want to do that the sematics would cause us to
guess the right function.  So is the main keyword an action or a UI
object?  For example, "button" is a UI element so we could say
"button_to_remote"... but RAILS does not do that they have created a
"submit" and a "link" .. to_remote where the main keyword is the
action.. we want to "link" or "submit".  
 
Thanks,
 
Ray


________________________________

From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Garrett
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:43 AM
To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] link_to_remote versus button...



For these general questions like "what is that method called again?" I
keep gotapi.com open in my browser when I am coding.  The site
autocompletes queries, so when you type "remote" you get all the methods
with that word in them.  It's a great API resource for both JS and
ruby/rails development.



On Jan 28, 2008 5:59 PM, Raymond Hooker (rhooker) <rhooker at cisco.com>
wrote:



	I have a AJAX powered link as follows:
	               <%= link_to_remote 'Export the Template',
	                       :url => { :action => 'template_export'},
	                       :before =>
"Element.show('export_progress')",
	                       :complete=>
"Element.hide('export_progress')" %>
	               <%= image_tag 'ajax-loader-CircleThickbox.gif',
:id =>
	"export_progress",
	                       :style => 'display: none' %>
	
	I would like to change to a button, but for some reason the
logical name
	"button_to_remote" does not exist.  In fact I cannot find
anything
	comparable.   Any suggestions?
	
	Ray
	
	P.S. - It seems logical to simply the helpers and use similar
	nomenclature.  Is that something that the developers might be
open
	to?... just seems like it would be good to guess and be right
rather
	than having to search the internet for the proper formula.
	_______________________________________________
	raleigh-rb-members mailing list
	raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
	http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
	


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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Jan 30 11:47:52 2008
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:47:52 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] link_to_remote versus button...
In-Reply-To: <82883b650801290343y48d87028s59bc7a654dff32d7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20801280620q4770ac1cl6496352d59f77536@mail.gmail.com>
	<848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F05D0BAD6@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
	<82883b650801290343y48d87028s59bc7a654dff32d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0801300847g68f0ddb7g22958340a1bff728@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/29/08, Chris Garrett <z at zworkbench.com> wrote:
>
> For these general questions like "what is that method called again?" I keep
> gotapi.com open in my browser when I am coding.  The site autocompletes
> queries, so when you type "remote" you get all the methods with that word in
> them.  It's a great API resource for both JS and ruby/rails development.

Also for ruby and rails specific doc's I like
http://www.railsbrain.com/
and
http://www.rubybrain.com/

Both work similarly to gotapi, and have downloadable versions for
various rails versions, and for ruby 1.8.6


-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/

From tj at stank.us  Wed Jan 30 12:38:33 2008
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:38:33 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] link_to_remote versus button...
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0801300847g68f0ddb7g22958340a1bff728@mail.gmail.com>
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Not to disparage the various online docs apps, because I still use
them occasionally, but I find my goto documentation to be the Rails
source. I generally have a textmate project window with the rails
source open for reference as I'm working. Despite the common complaint
about Rails not being well-documented, I find the source to be fairly
well-documented, readable, and educational.

-TJ

On Jan 30, 2008 11:47 AM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/29/08, Chris Garrett <z at zworkbench.com> wrote:
> >
> > For these general questions like "what is that method called again?" I keep
> > gotapi.com open in my browser when I am coding.  The site autocompletes
> > queries, so when you type "remote" you get all the methods with that word in
> > them.  It's a great API resource for both JS and ruby/rails development.
>
> Also for ruby and rails specific doc's I like
> http://www.railsbrain.com/
> and
> http://www.rubybrain.com/
>
> Both work similarly to gotapi, and have downloadable versions for
> various rails versions, and for ruby 1.8.6
>
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> My blog on Ruby
> http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
>
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>

From kevin at near-time.com  Wed Jan 30 12:53:08 2008
From: kevin at near-time.com (Kevin Olbrich)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:53:08 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] link_to_remote versus button...
In-Reply-To: <f25a5bb60801300938t78011975j525a0763fe902c5b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20801280620q4770ac1cl6496352d59f77536@mail.gmail.com>
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	<82883b650801290343y48d87028s59bc7a654dff32d7@mail.gmail.com>
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I rather like www.noobkit.com, which has a nice interface.
_Kevin

On 1/30/08, TJ Stankus <tj at stank.us> wrote:
>
> Not to disparage the various online docs apps, because I still use
> them occasionally, but I find my goto documentation to be the Rails
> source. I generally have a textmate project window with the rails
> source open for reference as I'm working. Despite the common complaint
> about Rails not being well-documented, I find the source to be fairly
> well-documented, readable, and educational.
>
> -TJ
>
> On Jan 30, 2008 11:47 AM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 1/29/08, Chris Garrett <z at zworkbench.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > For these general questions like "what is that method called again?" I
> keep
> > > gotapi.com open in my browser when I am coding.  The site
> autocompletes
> > > queries, so when you type "remote" you get all the methods with that
> word in
> > > them.  It's a great API resource for both JS and ruby/rails
> development.
> >
> > Also for ruby and rails specific doc's I like
> > http://www.railsbrain.com/
> > and
> > http://www.rubybrain.com/
> >
> > Both work similarly to gotapi, and have downloadable versions for
> > various rails versions, and for ruby 1.8.6
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rick DeNatale
> >
> > My blog on Ruby
> > http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From rsanheim at gmail.com  Wed Jan 30 13:23:51 2008
From: rsanheim at gmail.com (Rob Sanheim)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:23:51 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] link_to_remote versus button...
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On Jan 30, 2008 12:38 PM, TJ Stankus <tj at stank.us> wrote:
> Not to disparage the various online docs apps, because I still use
> them occasionally, but I find my goto documentation to be the Rails
> source. I generally have a textmate project window with the rails
> source open for reference as I'm working. Despite the common complaint
> about Rails not being well-documented, I find the source to be fairly
> well-documented, readable, and educational.
>
> -TJ

I'm going to second TJ and Rick...I use a combination of the Rails
source in its own textmate window, along with the downloaded versions
of Railsbrain/Rubybrain.  For some things in Rails you really need to
go to the source, and for quick one-off questions ("which hash does
what in link_to?") Railsbrain is faster.

Also, ruby/railsbrain are blazing fast if you download them and use
Safari.  Firefox is much slower for some reason...

- Rob

http://robsanheim.com
http://thinkrelevance.com

From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Wed Jan 30 13:28:27 2008
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:28:27 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] link_to_remote versus button...
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	<82883b650801290343y48d87028s59bc7a654dff32d7@mail.gmail.com>
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My litmus test for these online sources is to search for alias_method_chain
- and most of these seem to fail.  The source is the one true... uh...
source.

-Ryan

On 1/30/08, Rob Sanheim <rsanheim at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Jan 30, 2008 12:38 PM, TJ Stankus <tj at stank.us> wrote:
> > Not to disparage the various online docs apps, because I still use
> > them occasionally, but I find my goto documentation to be the Rails
> > source. I generally have a textmate project window with the rails
> > source open for reference as I'm working. Despite the common complaint
> > about Rails not being well-documented, I find the source to be fairly
> > well-documented, readable, and educational.
> >
> > -TJ
>
> I'm going to second TJ and Rick...I use a combination of the Rails
> source in its own textmate window, along with the downloaded versions
> of Railsbrain/Rubybrain.  For some things in Rails you really need to
> go to the source, and for quick one-off questions ("which hash does
> what in link_to?") Railsbrain is faster.
>
> Also, ruby/railsbrain are blazing fast if you download them and use
> Safari.  Firefox is much slower for some reason...
>
> - Rob
>
> http://robsanheim.com
> http://thinkrelevance.com
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Jan 30 15:16:00 2008
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:16:00 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] link_to_remote versus button...
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On 1/30/08, Ryan Daigle <ryan.daigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> My litmus test for these online sources is to search for alias_method_chain
> - and most of these seem to fail.  The source is the one true... uh...
> source.
>
> -Ryan

Which is why, like Rob use both RailsBrain  and textmate searches on the source.

RailsBrain tends to be quicker, but like most of the on-line reference
sites, it's really just a presentation of the RDoc, and therefore
doesn't include everything. So if I don't find what I want I can
search in TM.

By the way, one of the deficiencies of the xBrain references was that
they didn't properly handle special characters which need to be html
quoted when you enter them in the search box, so looking for a method
like << you needed to type in &lt.&lt.

I sent the author a fix for this which he incorporated into the latest
rails 2.0.2 downloadable version.  I don't know if this list allows
attachments, but I've attached the diff for those of you using the
downloaded xBrain sites. I believe it should work if you just apply it
to the api.grease file.

If the attachment gets stripped and you want it just ask me.


-- 
Rick DeNatale

My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
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