From mikehale at gmail.com  Mon May  4 22:20:42 2009
From: mikehale at gmail.com (Michael Hale)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:20:42 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] finding memory leaks in a rails app
Message-ID: <60190a730905041920te315bcdnfe933db182f8ac87@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

A potential client recently asked me about finding a memory leak in a
rails application. I'm somewhat familiar with ruby-prof, but I was
wondering what all yall's favorite tool is for finding and squashing
memory leaks?

From mike at hales.ws  Mon May  4 23:42:12 2009
From: mike at hales.ws (Michael Hale)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:42:12 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] finding memory leaks in a rails app
In-Reply-To: <579ca95c0905042034q59384232qc52c6c7c27e77bb8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <60190a730905041920te315bcdnfe933db182f8ac87@mail.gmail.com> 
	<CABC7725-32AA-4D64-9D7F-5F9EC94E7A62@aaronbedra.com>
	<FF0E3113-EC7E-483D-996B-80F4AF9108D1@gmail.com> 
	<579ca95c0905042034q59384232qc52c6c7c27e77bb8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60190a730905042042k76522711x1f0e46e85f24622b@mail.gmail.com>

Oh yeah. I'm all about some dtrace :)

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Fred Medlin <fmedlin at gmail.com> wrote:
> Mike,
> You know you're going to want to go straight to dtrace. ?:)
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Christopher Redinger <redinger at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Bleakhouse +1.
>> But, skip the frustration of doing this on Leopard, and just start with a
>> Linux distro.
>> On May 4, 2009, at 10:41 PM, Aaron Bedra wrote:
>>
>> Have to taken a look at ruby_bleakhouse?
>> Aaron
>>
>> On May 4, 2009, at 10:20 PM, Michael Hale wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> A potential client recently asked me about finding a memory leak in a
>> rails application. I'm somewhat familiar with ruby-prof, but I was
>> wondering what all yall's favorite tool is for finding and squashing
>> memory leaks?
>> _______________________________________________
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>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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>> --
>> Christopher Redinger
>> http://www.agiledisciple.com
>> Agile Ruby and Rails Development
>>
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From efg at ncsu.edu  Tue May  5 14:34:02 2009
From: efg at ncsu.edu (Ed Gehringer)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 14:34:02 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Upgrading from old Rails version
Message-ID: <F5ED2B0E-12CC-45D9-BEF4-277B5D0C4804@ncsu.edu>

We are trying to migrate a Rails app from 1.2.3 to 2.3.2.  This is  
not easy, because the instructions available on the Web are  
incremental; there is no documentation on how to upgrade directly.

Does anyone have suggestions on how to do this?

Thanks,
Ed

From redinger at gmail.com  Tue May  5 14:51:06 2009
From: redinger at gmail.com (Christopher Redinger)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 14:51:06 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Upgrading from old Rails version
In-Reply-To: <F5ED2B0E-12CC-45D9-BEF4-277B5D0C4804@ncsu.edu>
References: <F5ED2B0E-12CC-45D9-BEF4-277B5D0C4804@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <A40EEE2B-156A-47CC-B103-07C21485AAF3@gmail.com>

What kind of problems are you having?

Peter Marklund has the notes from his upgrade: http://marklunds.com/articles/one/409


On May 5, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Ed Gehringer wrote:

> We are trying to migrate a Rails app from 1.2.3 to 2.3.2.  This is  
> not easy, because the instructions available on the Web are  
> incremental; there is no documentation on how to upgrade directly.
>
> Does anyone have suggestions on how to do this?
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

--
Christopher Redinger
http://www.agiledisciple.com
Agile Ruby and Rails Development


From JBrenner at BBandT.com  Tue May  5 14:52:08 2009
From: JBrenner at BBandT.com (Brenner, Jonathon)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 14:52:08 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Upgrading from old Rails version
In-Reply-To: <F5ED2B0E-12CC-45D9-BEF4-277B5D0C4804@ncsu.edu>
References: <F5ED2B0E-12CC-45D9-BEF4-277B5D0C4804@ncsu.edu>
Message-ID: <91864382B2433640BA2A447041B3DBC30A7CA712@wil-exmb01.bbtnet.com>

My own rule is that a major version change in a framework necessitates a
major revision of my code, that is, a rewrite. The new code is much
healthier and I save more time in the long run because I'm not fixing
bugs that creep up as a result of crowbaring my old code into the new
framework.

-----Original Message-----
From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Ed
Gehringer
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:34 PM
To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Upgrading from old Rails version

We are trying to migrate a Rails app from 1.2.3 to 2.3.2.  This is not
easy, because the instructions available on the Web are incremental;
there is no documentation on how to upgrade directly.

Does anyone have suggestions on how to do this?

Thanks,
Ed
_______________________________________________
raleigh-rb-members mailing list
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http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members



From mriffe at gmail.com  Tue May  5 15:28:37 2009
From: mriffe at gmail.com (Mel Riffe)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:28:37 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any Rails Flex Developers here?
Message-ID: <43362a720905051228m6f071ba1n73f6a5e3a6513762@mail.gmail.com>

Howdy Folks,

I'm currently on my first project that uses Flex and RubyAMF.  I've
been tasked with looking into performance problems we're experiencing.

Right now I'm looking for someone to answer my questions.  I have
access to the Flexible Rails book and I've done some Google searching.

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

My first question is regarding serialization.  How is it controlled?
What gets serialized?

Thanks,
Mel

P.S. Ok, that was two questions. :-D

From redinger at gmail.com  Tue May  5 15:35:17 2009
From: redinger at gmail.com (Christopher Redinger)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:35:17 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any Rails Flex Developers here?
In-Reply-To: <43362a720905051228m6f071ba1n73f6a5e3a6513762@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43362a720905051228m6f071ba1n73f6a5e3a6513762@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3BC12C04-6BAC-48E6-9AD4-FCD2F6DF9C56@gmail.com>

Hey, the guy speaking tonight at the Agile RTP User group has been  
doing Flex & Rails development. All you need to do is drive down here  
and you can grill him in person!

On May 5, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Mel Riffe wrote:

> Howdy Folks,
>
> I'm currently on my first project that uses Flex and RubyAMF.  I've
> been tasked with looking into performance problems we're experiencing.
>
> Right now I'm looking for someone to answer my questions.  I have
> access to the Flexible Rails book and I've done some Google searching.
>
> Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
>
> My first question is regarding serialization.  How is it controlled?
> What gets serialized?
>
> Thanks,
> Mel
>
> P.S. Ok, that was two questions. :-D
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

--
Christopher Redinger
http://www.agiledisciple.com
Agile Ruby and Rails Development


From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Tue May  5 15:37:50 2009
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:37:50 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Upgrading from old Rails version
In-Reply-To: <A40EEE2B-156A-47CC-B103-07C21485AAF3@gmail.com>
References: <F5ED2B0E-12CC-45D9-BEF4-277B5D0C4804@ncsu.edu>
	<A40EEE2B-156A-47CC-B103-07C21485AAF3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0905051237p2778f1deu94befc72b36f1888@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Christopher Redinger <redinger at gmail.com> wrote:
> What kind of problems are you having?
>
> Peter Marklund has the notes from his upgrade:
> http://marklunds.com/articles/one/409
>

That sure makes it sound easy peasy, and I guess sometimes it is, but
not always.

In my experience there were at least two major stumbling blocks in
porting rails apps, certainly 1.2.x to 2.x is a pretty big bump, but
2.1 to 2.2 was actually just as big if not bigger due to significant
changes in ActiveRecord, when they added partial updating. Although
partial updating can be turned off, the changes affected lots of
subtle aspects of things like the order and even how many times
validation and other callbacks happen, depending on how the
application uses these migration can be a headache, a migrane
headache, or a soul-sucking experience.


-- 
Rick DeNatale

Blog: http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
Twitter: http://twitter.com/RickDeNatale
WWR: http://www.workingwithrails.com/person/9021-rick-denatale
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickdenatale

From mriffe at gmail.com  Tue May  5 15:46:22 2009
From: mriffe at gmail.com (Mel Riffe)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:46:22 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Any Rails Flex Developers here?
In-Reply-To: <3BC12C04-6BAC-48E6-9AD4-FCD2F6DF9C56@gmail.com>
References: <43362a720905051228m6f071ba1n73f6a5e3a6513762@mail.gmail.com>
	<3BC12C04-6BAC-48E6-9AD4-FCD2F6DF9C56@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43362a720905051246l1d0c88bar16aae5827f6c95e4@mail.gmail.com>

Don't wait on me. ;-)

But I will try to contact him off-list.

Cheers,
Mel

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Christopher Redinger <redinger at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey, the guy speaking tonight at the Agile RTP User group has been doing
> Flex & Rails development. All you need to do is drive down here and you can
> grill him in person!
>
> On May 5, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Mel Riffe wrote:
>
>> Howdy Folks,
>>
>> I'm currently on my first project that uses Flex and RubyAMF. ?I've
>> been tasked with looking into performance problems we're experiencing.
>>
>> Right now I'm looking for someone to answer my questions. ?I have
>> access to the Flexible Rails book and I've done some Google searching.
>>
>> Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> My first question is regarding serialization. ?How is it controlled?
>> What gets serialized?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mel
>>
>> P.S. Ok, that was two questions. :-D
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> --
> Christopher Redinger
> http://www.agiledisciple.com
> Agile Ruby and Rails Development
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From rsanheim at gmail.com  Wed May  6 22:11:26 2009
From: rsanheim at gmail.com (Rob Sanheim)
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:11:26 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] calling a soap web service
In-Reply-To: <a9c99e0a0904210540k51b91af4p244ab85817156810@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a9c99e0a0904210540k51b91af4p244ab85817156810@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fc113d400905061911t592a922w26d164893bf12f66@mail.gmail.com>

2009/4/21 Jeff Canna <jeff at canna.ws>:
> Does anyone have experience calling a soap webservice from a RoR app.?
>
> If so could you contact me directly? (Need to get a pointer for a direction
> to head in.)
>
> Jeff Canna
> jeff at canna.ws

One other solution that may save you a ton of time: switch to JRuby,
and use the very mature SOAP solutions available there.  If its a
public, mature SOAP interface, there may be a Java client wrapper you
can just require and use.

- Rob

http://thinkrelevance.com
http://runcoderun.com

From martin.streicher at gmail.com  Thu May  7 12:50:50 2009
From: martin.streicher at gmail.com (Martin Streicher)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:50:50 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Sinatra and Limonade
Message-ID: <F10BB19B-5E70-4D97-B807-09DAAD80D712@gmail.com>


I've written an article on micro-frameworks, featuring Sinatra for  
Ruby and Limonade for PHP. You can read the story online at http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7324 
.


From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Fri May  8 10:48:53 2009
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:48:53 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] ANN: Spreedly Kickstart
Message-ID: <4ce336a20905080748j3d057e24x74ba56ff436325da@mail.gmail.com>

Some of you have already heard, but the business I've been working on
for the past two years - Spreedly - is offering a pretty sweet deal on
services right now:

  http://spreedly.com/info/kickstart/

I know a lot of you have ambitions to get a side business up and
running, and I truly believe that Spreedly can help you do that. If
you have plans to launch a subscription-based business, definitely
check it out!

Oh, and just to keep this on-topic: Spreedly's of course written in
Ruby/Rails, and there's a Spreedly gem (`sudo gem install spreedly`)!

Let me know if you have any questions,


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From rhooker at cisco.com  Mon May 11 10:46:29 2009
From: rhooker at cisco.com (Raymond Hooker (rhooker))
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:46:29 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] calling a soap web service
In-Reply-To: <fc113d400905061911t592a922w26d164893bf12f66@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a9c99e0a0904210540k51b91af4p244ab85817156810@mail.gmail.com>
	<fc113d400905061911t592a922w26d164893bf12f66@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F0937B6EB@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>

That is an interesting suggestion.   

Back to jRuby.. what is the state of Jruby and Rails?  I saw this
article that indicates some have had success:
http://blog.headius.com/2009/04/apache-jruby-rails-glassfish-easy.html

One of the nice things about standard Rails is that it is easy to
deploy. You can deploy it first and then understand it later.  It looks
like Rails with Jruby is a roll your own, with all of the issues of
learning curve.  Any comments?

Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Rob
Sanheim
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:11 PM
To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] calling a soap web service

2009/4/21 Jeff Canna <jeff at canna.ws>:
> Does anyone have experience calling a soap webservice from a RoR app.?
>
> If so could you contact me directly? (Need to get a pointer for a
direction
> to head in.)
>
> Jeff Canna
> jeff at canna.ws

One other solution that may save you a ton of time: switch to JRuby,
and use the very mature SOAP solutions available there.  If its a
public, mature SOAP interface, there may be a Java client wrapper you
can just require and use.

- Rob

http://thinkrelevance.com
http://runcoderun.com
_______________________________________________
raleigh-rb-members mailing list
raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

From bryan.kearney at gmail.com  Mon May 11 10:57:04 2009
From: bryan.kearney at gmail.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:57:04 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] calling a soap web service
In-Reply-To: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F0937B6EB@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
References: <a9c99e0a0904210540k51b91af4p244ab85817156810@mail.gmail.com>	<fc113d400905061911t592a922w26d164893bf12f66@mail.gmail.com>
	<848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F0937B6EB@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <4A083CC0.5080908@gmail.com>

Here is some info on deploying Rails into JBoss:

http://oddthesis.org/theses/jboss-rails/projects/jboss-rails

Full Disclosure: I work for Red Hat, which JBoss is a division of.

-- bk

Raymond Hooker (rhooker) wrote:
> That is an interesting suggestion.   
>
> Back to jRuby.. what is the state of Jruby and Rails?  I saw this
> article that indicates some have had success:
> http://blog.headius.com/2009/04/apache-jruby-rails-glassfish-easy.html
>
> One of the nice things about standard Rails is that it is easy to
> deploy. You can deploy it first and then understand it later.  It looks
> like Rails with Jruby is a roll your own, with all of the issues of
> learning curve.  Any comments?
>
> Ray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org
> [mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Rob
> Sanheim
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:11 PM
> To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
> Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] calling a soap web service
>
> 2009/4/21 Jeff Canna <jeff at canna.ws>:
>   
>> Does anyone have experience calling a soap webservice from a RoR app.?
>>
>> If so could you contact me directly? (Need to get a pointer for a
>>     
> direction
>   
>> to head in.)
>>
>> Jeff Canna
>> jeff at canna.ws
>>     
>
> One other solution that may save you a ton of time: switch to JRuby,
> and use the very mature SOAP solutions available there.  If its a
> public, mature SOAP interface, there may be a Java client wrapper you
> can just require and use.
>
> - Rob
>
> http://thinkrelevance.com
> http://runcoderun.com
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>   


From rhooker at cisco.com  Mon May 11 11:08:51 2009
From: rhooker at cisco.com (Raymond Hooker (rhooker))
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:08:51 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] calling a soap web service
References: <a9c99e0a0904210540k51b91af4p244ab85817156810@mail.gmail.com>
	<fc113d400905061911t592a922w26d164893bf12f66@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F0937B70F@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>

Hmm.. starting to answer my own question.  I found an interesting
presentation on the Netbeans site:
http://www.netbeans.org/download/flash/jruby_on_rails/jruby_on_rails.htm
l
and a web page giving info on the Ruby support in Netbeans:
http://www.netbeans.org/features/ruby/index.html

I also found a wiki on Jruby:
http://wiki.jruby.org/wiki/Main_Page

I was interested in Rails on Jruby because I also need to use Java
frameworks.  I have a requirement to validate XML.   Java has some nice
frameworks to do that, whereas I do not believe there is a validating
framework in Ruby for XML.

Ray



-----Original Message-----
From: Raymond Hooker (rhooker) 
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 10:46 AM
To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
Subject: RE: [raleigh.rb] calling a soap web service

That is an interesting suggestion.   

Back to jRuby.. what is the state of Jruby and Rails?  I saw this
article that indicates some have had success:
http://blog.headius.com/2009/04/apache-jruby-rails-glassfish-easy.html

One of the nice things about standard Rails is that it is easy to
deploy. You can deploy it first and then understand it later.  It looks
like Rails with Jruby is a roll your own, with all of the issues of
learning curve.  Any comments?

Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:raleigh-rb-members-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Rob
Sanheim
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:11 PM
To: The mailing list of raleigh.rb
Subject: Re: [raleigh.rb] calling a soap web service

2009/4/21 Jeff Canna <jeff at canna.ws>:
> Does anyone have experience calling a soap webservice from a RoR app.?
>
> If so could you contact me directly? (Need to get a pointer for a
direction
> to head in.)
>
> Jeff Canna
> jeff at canna.ws

One other solution that may save you a ton of time: switch to JRuby,
and use the very mature SOAP solutions available there.  If its a
public, mature SOAP interface, there may be a Java client wrapper you
can just require and use.

- Rob

http://thinkrelevance.com
http://runcoderun.com
_______________________________________________
raleigh-rb-members mailing list
raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

From mike at hales.ws  Thu May 14 07:21:03 2009
From: mike at hales.ws (Michael Hale)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:21:03 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] can't dump anonymous class Class
In-Reply-To: <c2eae3390905131855l18958a01qda61091d090ec4d7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c2eae3390905131855l18958a01qda61091d090ec4d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60190a730905140421p7d962f83u8c066fdae7e5df7a@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Matthew Bass <pelargir at gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting problem here. I'm not quite sure how to solve it.
> The app I'm working on logs API requests to the database. As part of this
> logging, it serializes the headers and parameters from the request before
> saving them to the table.
> This is what the AR class looks like:
> ??class ApiRequest < ActiveRecord::Base
> ?? ?serialize :headers
> ?? ?serialize :parameters
>
> ?? ?def self.create_from(request)
> ?? ? ?new_request = self.new
> ?? ? ?new_request.headers = request.headers
> ?? ? ?new_request.parameters = request.parameters
> ?? ? ?new_request.save!
> ?? ?end
> ??end
> The problem is that the serialization uses YAML under the covers, and YAML
> is complaining that it "can't dump anonymous class Class" when Rails tries
> to "save!" the model. This anonymous class, whatever it is, appears to be
> somewhere in the request headers. When I comment out that line, things work
> fine.
> Also, this error has only appeared since upgrading from Rails 2.1.0 to
> 2.3.2. This was all working fine on the older version of Rails.
> Any ideas as to how to resolve this? Or how to track down the bad boy
> anonymous class in the headers that is causing this problem?
> Matthew

To find out which part of the code is causing the problem perhaps the
backtrace printed from the exception provides some clues? If it's
getting rescued and re-thrown then maybe hacking
ruby/1.8/yaml/rubytypes.rb to provide more information could help.

This post describes how to dump a Class to yaml:
http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/146610,
also when you look at ruby/1.8/yaml/rubytypes.rb you'll see why you
need to define to_yaml for Class.

> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From martin.streicher at gmail.com  Thu May 14 07:45:53 2009
From: martin.streicher at gmail.com (Martin Streicher)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:45:53 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Brief introduction to Gearman with Ruby for Linux
	Magazine
Message-ID: <3827C1E1-F57F-44B8-8144-AF01F73744EA@gmail.com>


My introduction to Gearman with Ruby is now available on Linux  
Magazine at http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7330.

My thanks to Andy Triggs, Eric Day, and the folks in the #gearman IRC  
channel who answered my questions. I am very anxious to see the next  
release of Gearman, which Eric intends to show at OSCON.

Martin


From martin.streicher at gmail.com  Fri May 15 12:33:57 2009
From: martin.streicher at gmail.com (Martin Streicher)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:33:57 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Call for authors
Message-ID: <FC490C0B-9AB9-4937-8164-16E04C55C343@gmail.com>

Hello!

My name is Martin Streicher. I live in downtown Raleigh, am a Rails  
developer, and am the former Editor-in-Chief of Linux Magazine (http://www.linux-mag.com 
).

I am working again with Linux Magazine Online (the print edition of  
the magazine was scrapped in early 2008) to bolster its coverage of  
software development tools and techniques. Specifically, I have  
identified a handful of weekly columns and feature stories and am  
searching now for columnists and authors.

Please review the list of column and story ideas and contact me if you  
are interested in a topic. Columnists would write 1200-1500 words  
weekly; feature writers would craft one-off, 2000-word stories.

The pay rate for a column (four 1200-1500-word stories per month) is  
$750.00. A three-month commitment to a column is the minimum. Each  
feature story is worth $500.00.


Columnists Wanted

"This Week on Github" summarizes the most significant additions and  
revisions made to projects hosted on the popular code sharing site.

"In the Trenches" reveals and relays the trials and travails of  
deploying, maintaining, and scaling a production Web application.

"The Full Monty" details the real, day-to-day, hands-on job of a full- 
time Linux system administrator. Think Taxicab Confessions with  
software and hardware.


Articles Wanted

Coverage of Java One. I would like a summary of the Java One  
conference. If you are attending Java One or would like to, I can have  
the conference fees waived.

The State of Linux Hiring. I would like an analysis of the market  
conditions for Linux and open source developers and system  
administrators.

Run, Ruby, Run. An in-depth look at performance of Ruby  
implementations (IronRuby, JRuby, Parrot Ruby, and Ruby 1.9) and  
what's being done to speed up the language further.


In addition to these ideas, I am also accepting proposals. If you  
would like to propose a story, please send me email with the goals for  
the story, what is important about the story, the intended audience,  
and two-three sentences about the content. You can propose a column or  
a feature.


My thanks for your consideration. My email address is martin.streicher at gmail.com 
.

Martin




--
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Executive Editor, Software Development
Linux Magazine
URL: http://www.linux-mag.com
Twitter: linuxmagazine

email: martin.streicher at linux-mag.com
skype: martin.s.streicher
gtalk: martin.streicher at gmail.com
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phone: 919.741.4182






From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Tue May 19 11:13:04 2009
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:13:04 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
Message-ID: <4ce336a20905190813p75dd37d0h79238921c4e6af4f@mail.gmail.com>

As usual, anyone and everyone is invited to join us at Baja Burrito
(http://bloat.me/u3sK) before the meeting tonight and chill while we
eat some massive meat-stuffed tortilla tubes. Folks usually start
showing up around 5:30, and it's a great time to chat a bit and unwind
before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting proper.

Hope to see you there!


--
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From kevin at hypotheticalabs.com  Tue May 19 11:18:27 2009
From: kevin at hypotheticalabs.com (Kevin A. Smith)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:18:27 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20905190813p75dd37d0h79238921c4e6af4f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20905190813p75dd37d0h79238921c4e6af4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6FF87640-CAD7-4A9E-B710-E96C7D6312F3@hypotheticalabs.com>

I'll be there
On May 19, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:

> As usual, anyone and everyone is invited to join us at Baja Burrito
> (http://bloat.me/u3sK) before the meeting tonight and chill while we
> eat some massive meat-stuffed tortilla tubes. Folks usually start
> showing up around 5:30, and it's a great time to chat a bit and unwind
> before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting proper.
>
> Hope to see you there!
>
>
> --
> Nathaniel Talbott
> <:((><
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From mike at hales.ws  Tue May 19 11:42:23 2009
From: mike at hales.ws (Michael Hale)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:42:23 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20905190813p75dd37d0h79238921c4e6af4f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20905190813p75dd37d0h79238921c4e6af4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60190a730905190842nbae8396q2134fd956bcdfcb@mail.gmail.com>

I'll be there.

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Nathaniel Talbott
<nathaniel at talbott.ws> wrote:
> As usual, anyone and everyone is invited to join us at Baja Burrito
> (http://bloat.me/u3sK) before the meeting tonight and chill while we
> eat some massive meat-stuffed tortilla tubes. Folks usually start
> showing up around 5:30, and it's a great time to chat a bit and unwind
> before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting proper.
>
> Hope to see you there!
>
>
> --
> Nathaniel Talbott
> <:((><
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From nospam at tonyspencer.com  Tue May 19 11:26:06 2009
From: nospam at tonyspencer.com (Tony Spencer)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:26:06 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <4ce336a20905190813p75dd37d0h79238921c4e6af4f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ce336a20905190813p75dd37d0h79238921c4e6af4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A64DA389-966C-4B7E-8291-3A6B535E9E49@tonyspencer.com>

I'll go for a light lunch today to prepare my stomach for the mexican  
torpedo.

On May 19, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:

> As usual, anyone and everyone is invited to join us at Baja Burrito
> (http://bloat.me/u3sK) before the meeting tonight and chill while we
> eat some massive meat-stuffed tortilla tubes. Folks usually start
> showing up around 5:30, and it's a great time to chat a bit and unwind
> before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting proper.
>
> Hope to see you there!
>
>
> --
> Nathaniel Talbott
> <:((><
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>


From seancribbs at gmail.com  Tue May 19 13:20:22 2009
From: seancribbs at gmail.com (Sean Cribbs)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:20:22 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <3A7BD709-514E-4E5F-AD71-32466AACC980@infozerk.com>
References: <4ce336a20905190813p75dd37d0h79238921c4e6af4f@mail.gmail.com>	<579ca95c0905190824q6235a57esb24763771263e584@mail.gmail.com>
	<3A7BD709-514E-4E5F-AD71-32466AACC980@infozerk.com>
Message-ID: <4A12EA56.1040904@gmail.com>

Me 3.  (baja burrito and edge office)

Sean

James Avery wrote:
> I'll be there. I am also going to co-work from edge office for the 
> afternoon if anyone wants to come down.
>
> -James
>
> On May 19, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Fred Medlin <fmedlin at gmail.com 
> <mailto:fmedlin at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> In
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Nathaniel Talbott 
>> <nathaniel at talbott.ws <mailto:nathaniel at talbott.ws>> wrote:
>>
>>     As usual, anyone and everyone is invited to join us at Baja Burrito
>>     (http://bloat.me/u3sK) before the meeting tonight and chill while we
>>     eat some massive meat-stuffed tortilla tubes. Folks usually start
>>     showing up around 5:30, and it's a great time to chat a bit and
>>     unwind
>>     before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting proper.
>>
>>     Hope to see you there!
>>
>>
>>     --
>>     Nathaniel Talbott
>>     <:((><
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>>     raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>>     <mailto:raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org>
>>     http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org 
>> <mailto:raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org>
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Tue May 19 13:44:13 2009
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:44:13 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-Meeting Chow
In-Reply-To: <EF94D674-80D7-48C2-B9E2-DBF6C406C065@37signals.com>
References: <4ce336a20905190813p75dd37d0h79238921c4e6af4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<EF94D674-80D7-48C2-B9E2-DBF6C406C065@37signals.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0905191044y5b7e8a27v8a627b848a6a73c@mail.gmail.com>

Moi Aussi!

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Mark Imbriaco <mark at 37signals.com> wrote:
>
> Count me in.
>
> -Mark
>
> On May 19, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:
>
>> As usual, anyone and everyone is invited to join us at Baja Burrito
>> (http://bloat.me/u3sK) before the meeting tonight and chill while we
>> eat some massive meat-stuffed tortilla tubes. Folks usually start
>> showing up around 5:30, and it's a great time to chat a bit and unwind
>> before heading over to Red Hat for the meeting proper.
>>
>> Hope to see you there!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Nathaniel Talbott
>> <:((><
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
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Twitter: http://twitter.com/RickDeNatale
WWR: http://www.workingwithrails.com/person/9021-rick-denatale
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickdenatale

From gray.herter at gmail.com  Tue May 19 20:43:17 2009
From: gray.herter at gmail.com (Gray Herter)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:43:17 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyNation Conference, June 12-13, Washington, DC
Message-ID: <5bbf5c080905191743p5cf6f271u5b467bc07e7ba14d@mail.gmail.com>

RubyNation is coming up soon.  RubyNation is the Washington DC area's
community Ruby and Rails Conference, where the Rubyists from around
the nation's capital and beyond meet to bask in Ruby goodness for two
full days!

Don't miss out! RubyNation is just around the corner.  Only one month
away!  Register while there are still places available.  Last year, we
sold out weeks prior to the event.

To receive a $20 user group discount use the registration code: RubyFan
Student discount $50:  Student

Dates: June 12 - 13, 2009
Location/Venue: Reston, Virginia - Hyatt Regency Reston Hotel
URL: http://www.rubynation.org
Registration:  http://rubynation.eventbrite.com/

This year's RubyNation features 19 speakers from the Ruby community including:

Chad Fowler, Author of The Passionate Programmer
Yehuda Katz, Rails 3.0 committer and Author of the jQuery in Action
and Merb in Action
David A. Black, Author of Ruby for Rails and Rails Routing
Russ Olsen, Author of Design Patterns in Ruby
Hal Fulton, Author of The Ruby Way
Bruce Tate, Author of Beyond Java and Rails Up and Running
Ben Scoffield, Author of Practical Rest for Rails Projects
Joe O'Brien, Co-founder of the Columbus Ruby Brigade
Aaron Bedra, RCov committer

We will also have lightning talks sessions, great food, and lots of
excellent giveaways including books, t-shirts, and Rubymine licenses.

Join us!

Go to http://rubynation.eventbrite.com/ for registration details.

See you there!

From steve at iannopollo.com  Tue May 19 21:55:41 2009
From: steve at iannopollo.com (Steve Iannopollo)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 21:55:41 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyNation Conference, June 12-13, Washington, DC
In-Reply-To: <5bbf5c080905191743p5cf6f271u5b467bc07e7ba14d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5bbf5c080905191743p5cf6f271u5b467bc07e7ba14d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <27B2EDDA-4551-4605-8C52-AF229E8AD1E1@iannopollo.com>

Is that gun ban still in effect in DC? I know the answer to that will  
affect my decision to go or not.

-Steve

On May 19, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Gray Herter wrote:

> RubyNation is coming up soon.  RubyNation is the Washington DC area's
> community Ruby and Rails Conference, where the Rubyists from around
> the nation's capital and beyond meet to bask in Ruby goodness for two
> full days!
>
> Don't miss out! RubyNation is just around the corner.  Only one month
> away!  Register while there are still places available.  Last year, we
> sold out weeks prior to the event.
>
> To receive a $20 user group discount use the registration code:  
> RubyFan
> Student discount $50:  Student
>
> Dates: June 12 - 13, 2009
> Location/Venue: Reston, Virginia - Hyatt Regency Reston Hotel
> URL: http://www.rubynation.org
> Registration:  http://rubynation.eventbrite.com/
>
> This year's RubyNation features 19 speakers from the Ruby community  
> including:
>
> Chad Fowler, Author of The Passionate Programmer
> Yehuda Katz, Rails 3.0 committer and Author of the jQuery in Action
> and Merb in Action
> David A. Black, Author of Ruby for Rails and Rails Routing
> Russ Olsen, Author of Design Patterns in Ruby
> Hal Fulton, Author of The Ruby Way
> Bruce Tate, Author of Beyond Java and Rails Up and Running
> Ben Scoffield, Author of Practical Rest for Rails Projects
> Joe O'Brien, Co-founder of the Columbus Ruby Brigade
> Aaron Bedra, RCov committer
>
> We will also have lightning talks sessions, great food, and lots of
> excellent giveaways including books, t-shirts, and Rubymine licenses.
>
> Join us!
>
> Go to http://rubynation.eventbrite.com/ for registration details.
>
> See you there!
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From javery at infozerk.com  Tue May 19 22:14:14 2009
From: javery at infozerk.com (James Avery)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:14:14 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyNation Conference, June 12-13, Washington, DC
In-Reply-To: <27B2EDDA-4551-4605-8C52-AF229E8AD1E1@iannopollo.com>
References: <5bbf5c080905191743p5cf6f271u5b467bc07e7ba14d@mail.gmail.com>
	<27B2EDDA-4551-4605-8C52-AF229E8AD1E1@iannopollo.com>
Message-ID: <20af90580905191914j15ce7e1cia851b04fa59a18eb@mail.gmail.com>

The conference is held in Reston, Virginia. In virginia you can not
only take your gun but it is legal to carry it out in the open:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_(by_state)#Virginia

-James

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Steve Iannopollo <steve at iannopollo.com> wrote:
> Is that gun ban still in effect in DC? I know the answer to that will affect
> my decision to go or not.
>
> -Steve
>
> On May 19, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Gray Herter wrote:
>
>> RubyNation is coming up soon. ?RubyNation is the Washington DC area's
>> community Ruby and Rails Conference, where the Rubyists from around
>> the nation's capital and beyond meet to bask in Ruby goodness for two
>> full days!
>>
>> Don't miss out! RubyNation is just around the corner. ?Only one month
>> away! ?Register while there are still places available. ?Last year, we
>> sold out weeks prior to the event.
>>
>> To receive a $20 user group discount use the registration code: RubyFan
>> Student discount $50: ?Student
>>
>> Dates: June 12 - 13, 2009
>> Location/Venue: Reston, Virginia - Hyatt Regency Reston Hotel
>> URL: http://www.rubynation.org
>> Registration: ?http://rubynation.eventbrite.com/
>>
>> This year's RubyNation features 19 speakers from the Ruby community
>> including:
>>
>> Chad Fowler, Author of The Passionate Programmer
>> Yehuda Katz, Rails 3.0 committer and Author of the jQuery in Action
>> and Merb in Action
>> David A. Black, Author of Ruby for Rails and Rails Routing
>> Russ Olsen, Author of Design Patterns in Ruby
>> Hal Fulton, Author of The Ruby Way
>> Bruce Tate, Author of Beyond Java and Rails Up and Running
>> Ben Scoffield, Author of Practical Rest for Rails Projects
>> Joe O'Brien, Co-founder of the Columbus Ruby Brigade
>> Aaron Bedra, RCov committer
>>
>> We will also have lightning talks sessions, great food, and lots of
>> excellent giveaways including books, t-shirts, and Rubymine licenses.
>>
>> Join us!
>>
>> Go to http://rubynation.eventbrite.com/ for registration details.
>>
>> See you there!
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
James Avery
Zerk Media - http://zerkmedia.com
Infozerk Inc. - http://www.infozerk.com

From info at lojic.com  Tue May 19 22:19:30 2009
From: info at lojic.com (Brian Adkins)
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:19:30 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RubyNation Conference, June 12-13, Washington, DC
In-Reply-To: <27B2EDDA-4551-4605-8C52-AF229E8AD1E1@iannopollo.com>
References: <5bbf5c080905191743p5cf6f271u5b467bc07e7ba14d@mail.gmail.com>
	<27B2EDDA-4551-4605-8C52-AF229E8AD1E1@iannopollo.com>
Message-ID: <4A1368B2.7000801@lojic.com>

LOL

I expect it is, but you could always check the murder rate for DC to be 
sure. I think the probability that the citizens have been disarmed is 
correlated to the murder rate in many cities. Maybe they should've just 
banned violent crime with a gun instead?

Steve Iannopollo wrote, On 5/19/09 9:55 PM:
> Is that gun ban still in effect in DC? I know the answer to that will 
> affect my decision to go or not.
> 
> -Steve
> 
> On May 19, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Gray Herter wrote:
> 
>> RubyNation is coming up soon.  RubyNation is the Washington DC area's
>> community Ruby and Rails Conference, where the Rubyists from around
>> the nation's capital and beyond meet to bask in Ruby goodness for two
>> full days!
>>
>> Don't miss out! RubyNation is just around the corner.  Only one month
>> away!  Register while there are still places available.  Last year, we
>> sold out weeks prior to the event.
>>
>> To receive a $20 user group discount use the registration code: RubyFan
>> Student discount $50:  Student
>>
>> Dates: June 12 - 13, 2009
>> Location/Venue: Reston, Virginia - Hyatt Regency Reston Hotel
>> URL: http://www.rubynation.org
>> Registration:  http://rubynation.eventbrite.com/
>>
>> This year's RubyNation features 19 speakers from the Ruby community 
>> including:
>>
>> Chad Fowler, Author of The Passionate Programmer
>> Yehuda Katz, Rails 3.0 committer and Author of the jQuery in Action
>> and Merb in Action
>> David A. Black, Author of Ruby for Rails and Rails Routing
>> Russ Olsen, Author of Design Patterns in Ruby
>> Hal Fulton, Author of The Ruby Way
>> Bruce Tate, Author of Beyond Java and Rails Up and Running
>> Ben Scoffield, Author of Practical Rest for Rails Projects
>> Joe O'Brien, Co-founder of the Columbus Ruby Brigade
>> Aaron Bedra, RCov committer
>>
>> We will also have lightning talks sessions, great food, and lots of
>> excellent giveaways including books, t-shirts, and Rubymine licenses.
>>
>> Join us!
>>
>> Go to http://rubynation.eventbrite.com/ for registration details.
>>
>> See you there!
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> 
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> 

-- 
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Lojic Technologies, LLC
http://lojic.com/
919-946-7547 (mobile)



From mshiltonj at gmail.com  Sun May 24 10:25:31 2009
From: mshiltonj at gmail.com (Steven Hilton)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 10:25:31 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails page caching with separately cached global
	elements.
Message-ID: <8308260d0905240725v78f8d421u5cd6f0e4f5d90bf0@mail.gmail.com>

I'm trying to build an optimized caching setup for my app.

Large parts of the app will use full page caching (using something
like Ben Scofield's  Progressive Enhancement approach
http://www.slideshare.net/bscofield/page-caching-resurrected.)

The issue is: I'd like to include some global elements on all pages,
where the global element changes much more rapidly that most other
pages on the site, and I don't want to expire nearly all the pages on
the site because a minor global element needs to be updated.

And example of this is "10 most recent blog posts." shown on every
page. The RailsEnvy tutorial on caching
(http://www.railsenvy.com/2007/2/28/rails-caching-tutorial  ) uses
this example as a case where you _would_ need to clear the whole
cache.

I was hoping to do this with SSI as apache serves the cached pages, as in:
<!--#include virtual="/includes/ten_newest_posts.html" -->

This doesn't work because:
1: On the rails side, if page caching is turned off, the include is
ignored and the element is empty when the page is rendered
dynamically.

2: If the page is cached, but the element included via ssi doesn't
exist on the file system, it results in a routing error.

Google says some people have tried this, but I haven't seen a howto or
successful report of this approach. After fumbling around and
searching for a couple hours, I get the sense that this is trickier
than it sounds:
* Knowing when the SSI include statement should be processed by rails
or by apache2
* Getting apache to ssi include a file that doesn't exist and needs to
be generated on the fly
* Getting rails to include the ssi content served to the client, by
not including the ssi for the content cached to the file system

So, I'm looking for alternative approaches or more input on this
approach. Is something like this even possible now?

I *could* (and may) use a javascript layering approach client side,
but then the content in the global elements would not be visible to
spiders used to build search indexes, which is not really desirable.

Thanks for any feedback.

-- 
Steven Hilton <mshiltonj at gmail.com>
<http://www.mshiltonj.com/>
<http://www.tothware.com/>

From johnwlong2000 at gmail.com  Mon May 25 13:24:07 2009
From: johnwlong2000 at gmail.com (John W. Long)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 13:24:07 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Radiant Hack Night (Thursday, June 4)
Message-ID: <69EF4570-17A0-414A-8676-5F1D92372C0F@gmail.com>

Howdy folks,

Just wanted to extend an invitation to everyone to join us for a  
Radiant hack night on June 4th:

http://www.meetup.com/raleighrb/calendar/10486834/

This is a completely open, free-form, "just show up with a laptop (or  
a friend with a laptop) and hack on something Radiant" meeting.  
There's not a lot of agenda, and there's sure to be a great mix of  
coding and shooting the breeze about all things geeky. Sean Cribbs and  
John Long will be in attendance, leading the development and design/UI  
pieces respectively. This is an easy way to get started contributing  
to the project, learn more about Radiant, or to work on your own  
feature with guidance from the community.

We'll be meeting at John's apartment around 7pm. If you need  
directions e-mail me at johnwlong.com or give John a call (919-721-9522).  
Please RSVP if you plan to attend.

Hope to see you there!

--
John Long
http://recursivecreative.com
http://wiseheartdesign.com

From rsanheim at gmail.com  Tue May 26 07:35:26 2009
From: rsanheim at gmail.com (Rob Sanheim)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 07:35:26 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] calling a soap web service
In-Reply-To: <848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F0937B6EB@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
References: <a9c99e0a0904210540k51b91af4p244ab85817156810@mail.gmail.com>
	<fc113d400905061911t592a922w26d164893bf12f66@mail.gmail.com>
	<848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F0937B6EB@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <fc113d400905260435q2072fad3jabe879d87d12683d@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Raymond Hooker (rhooker)
<rhooker at cisco.com> wrote:
> That is an interesting suggestion.
>
> Back to jRuby.. what is the state of Jruby and Rails? ?I saw this
> article that indicates some have had success:
> http://blog.headius.com/2009/04/apache-jruby-rails-glassfish-easy.html
>
> One of the nice things about standard Rails is that it is easy to
> deploy. You can deploy it first and then understand it later. ?It looks
> like Rails with Jruby is a roll your own, with all of the issues of
> learning curve. ?Any comments?
>
> Ray

We are using JRuby as a backend process only - it doesn't directly
receive any web requests.  So I can't comment on deploying JRuby +
Rails.  I've heard glassfish is pretty stable at this point, or you
can just use Mongrel like MRI as well.

- Rob

From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Tue May 26 07:53:42 2009
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 07:53:42 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Fwd: [Rails] Re: Strange caching? problem
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0905260445v4ccf09c3w689fa8e1dc46ced8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <deb2337a0905260426t64a227cbo86328a78581f7320@mail.gmail.com>
	<f4972b49-078d-4df5-b9c9-a1fbc58949d9@z5g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
	<deb2337a0905260445v4ccf09c3w689fa8e1dc46ced8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0905260453r688fb590t4407c6650e69be77@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe some of the locals might have some ideas about this?


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Rails] Re: Strange caching? problem
To: rubyonrails-talk at googlegroups.com


On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Frederick Cheung
<frederick.cheung at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On May 26, 12:26?pm, Rick DeNatale <rick.denat... at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The same thing happens with Safari 4, Firefox, and Curl, so it's not a
>> browser caching issue.
>>
>> I suspect that Apache and Passenger are not sending the request
>> through, I restarted apache on the server and still the same thing.
>>
>> Ideas anyone?
>
> Not so much an idea as what I would look at next; have you tried using
> tcpdump (or wireshark, ethereal, etc) to see what the http requests/
> responses look like ?

No. ?I guess I could set up to do that on the server, but I'm not sure
what to look for, I don't know enough about Passenger to know where
tcp is used between Apache - Passenger and the rails app, I think that
the rails app actually runs in one or more Passenger processes doesn't
it?

--
Rick DeNatale

Blog: http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
Twitter: http://twitter.com/RickDeNatale
WWR: http://www.workingwithrails.com/person/9021-rick-denatale
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickdenatale



-- 
Rick DeNatale

Blog: http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
Twitter: http://twitter.com/RickDeNatale
WWR: http://www.workingwithrails.com/person/9021-rick-denatale
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickdenatale

From mike at hales.ws  Tue May 26 11:25:42 2009
From: mike at hales.ws (Michael Hale)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:25:42 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] calling a soap web service
In-Reply-To: <fc113d400905260435q2072fad3jabe879d87d12683d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a9c99e0a0904210540k51b91af4p244ab85817156810@mail.gmail.com> 
	<fc113d400905061911t592a922w26d164893bf12f66@mail.gmail.com> 
	<848DB51F3E58E146B08D188F803DCB6F0937B6EB@xmb-rtp-20c.amer.cisco.com> 
	<fc113d400905260435q2072fad3jabe879d87d12683d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60190a730905260825x26b6f467k4cd2512fe31adb20@mail.gmail.com>

Wow this is a long running thread!

I thought I would add my 2 cents. I recently added a fix to the the
libxml support in soap4r.
http://github.com/mikehale/soap4r/tree/libxmlfix

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Rob Sanheim <rsanheim at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Raymond Hooker (rhooker)
> <rhooker at cisco.com> wrote:
>> That is an interesting suggestion.
>>
>> Back to jRuby.. what is the state of Jruby and Rails? ?I saw this
>> article that indicates some have had success:
>> http://blog.headius.com/2009/04/apache-jruby-rails-glassfish-easy.html
>>
>> One of the nice things about standard Rails is that it is easy to
>> deploy. You can deploy it first and then understand it later. ?It looks
>> like Rails with Jruby is a roll your own, with all of the issues of
>> learning curve. ?Any comments?
>>
>> Ray
>
> We are using JRuby as a backend process only - it doesn't directly
> receive any web requests. ?So I can't comment on deploying JRuby +
> Rails. ?I've heard glassfish is pretty stable at this point, or you
> can just use Mongrel like MRI as well.
>
> - Rob
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From mike at hales.ws  Tue May 26 11:49:08 2009
From: mike at hales.ws (Michael Hale)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:49:08 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Radiant Hack Night (Thursday, June 4)
In-Reply-To: <69EF4570-17A0-414A-8676-5F1D92372C0F@gmail.com>
References: <69EF4570-17A0-414A-8676-5F1D92372C0F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60190a730905260849u33f61b1aj2ba6a4d58af929f3@mail.gmail.com>

I'm confused. Your email says June 4th, but the meetup page says June
11th. Which is it?

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:24 PM, John W. Long <johnwlong2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Howdy folks,
>
> Just wanted to extend an invitation to everyone to join us for a Radiant
> hack night on June 4th:
>
> http://www.meetup.com/raleighrb/calendar/10486834/
>
> This is a completely open, free-form, "just show up with a laptop (or a
> friend with a laptop) and hack on something Radiant" meeting. There's not a
> lot of agenda, and there's sure to be a great mix of coding and shooting the
> breeze about all things geeky. Sean Cribbs and John Long will be in
> attendance, leading the development and design/UI pieces respectively. This
> is an easy way to get started contributing to the project, learn more about
> Radiant, or to work on your own feature with guidance from the community.
>
> We'll be meeting at John's apartment around 7pm. If you need directions
> e-mail me at johnwlong.com or give John a call (919-721-9522). Please RSVP if
> you plan to attend.
>
> Hope to see you there!
>
> --
> John Long
> http://recursivecreative.com
> http://wiseheartdesign.com
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From johnwlong2000 at gmail.com  Tue May 26 12:59:28 2009
From: johnwlong2000 at gmail.com (John W. Long)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:59:28 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Radiant Hack Night (Thursday, June 11)
In-Reply-To: <60190a730905260849u33f61b1aj2ba6a4d58af929f3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <69EF4570-17A0-414A-8676-5F1D92372C0F@gmail.com>
	<60190a730905260849u33f61b1aj2ba6a4d58af929f3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E4913451-9635-4FFB-896C-DAB083A5FF8A@gmail.com>

Oh! Good catch man. Definitely the 11th.

--John

On May 26, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Michael Hale wrote:

> I'm confused. Your email says June 4th, but the meetup page says June
> 11th. Which is it?
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:24 PM, John W. Long  
> <johnwlong2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Howdy folks,
>>
>> Just wanted to extend an invitation to everyone to join us for a  
>> Radiant
>> hack night on June 4th:
>>
>> http://www.meetup.com/raleighrb/calendar/10486834/
>>
>> This is a completely open, free-form, "just show up with a laptop  
>> (or a
>> friend with a laptop) and hack on something Radiant" meeting.  
>> There's not a
>> lot of agenda, and there's sure to be a great mix of coding and  
>> shooting the
>> breeze about all things geeky. Sean Cribbs and John Long will be in
>> attendance, leading the development and design/UI pieces  
>> respectively. This
>> is an easy way to get started contributing to the project, learn  
>> more about
>> Radiant, or to work on your own feature with guidance from the  
>> community.
>>
>> We'll be meeting at John's apartment around 7pm. If you need  
>> directions
>> e-mail me at johnwlong.com or give John a call (919-721-9522). Please  
>> RSVP if
>> you plan to attend.
>>
>> Hope to see you there!
>>
>> --
>> John Long
>> http://recursivecreative.com
>> http://wiseheartdesign.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From martin.streicher at gmail.com  Wed May 27 10:00:14 2009
From: martin.streicher at gmail.com (Martin Streicher)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:00:14 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Sunspot: Search for Ruby and Rails
Message-ID: <EE313A90-5AA2-4365-B4F8-A2B7A72980D2@gmail.com>


I've written an article on how to use Mat Brown's Sunspot gem with  
Ruby and with Rails. Sunspot is an easy way to add Solr (and thus  
Lucene) to any application.

http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7341

Martin