From jared.haworth at gmail.com  Thu May  6 23:07:41 2010
From: jared.haworth at gmail.com (Jared Haworth)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 23:07:41 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [Off Topic] Large Indoor Space
Message-ID: <87290375-3D13-4284-9C9A-BF55ABB6F015@gmail.com>

Apologies in advance for the off-topic posting.

Do any of you have access to a large indoor space?  Something like a gymnasium, warehouse, airplane hangar (zeppelin hangar?!)?  I'm looking for somewhere that I can rehearse some indoor kite flying, without having to pay an arm & a leg (Wake County Public Schools facility rental) or potentially get arrested (Hudson-Belk court at the Crabtree Valley Mall).  

Thanks!

- Jared

From fatcatt316 at yahoo.com  Fri May  7 08:20:17 2010
From: fatcatt316 at yahoo.com (Joe Peck)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 05:20:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [Off Topic] Large Indoor Space
In-Reply-To: <87290375-3D13-4284-9C9A-BF55ABB6F015@gmail.com>
References: <87290375-3D13-4284-9C9A-BF55ABB6F015@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <528886.72570.qm@web65701.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

I didn't know kites could fly indoors.  Do they need giant fans, or do you just run really fast pulling the kite behind you?

To answer your question, I don't know of any large indoor spaces for this.  But good luck finding one!

Joe




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Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 11:07:41 PM
Subject: [raleigh.rb] [Off Topic] Large Indoor Space

Apologies in advance for the off-topic posting.

Do any of you have access to a large indoor space?  Something like a gymnasium, warehouse, airplane hangar (zeppelin hangar?!)?  I'm looking for somewhere that I can rehearse some indoor kite flying, without having to pay an arm & a leg (Wake County Public Schools facility rental) or potentially get arrested (Hudson-Belk court at the Crabtree Valley Mall).  

Thanks!

- Jared
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Fri May  7 11:44:49 2010
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 11:44:49 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Fwd: [TriLUG-announce] May meeting: Puppetize It!
In-Reply-To: <4BE431D8.9060606@earlham.edu>
References: <4BE431D8.9060606@earlham.edu>
Message-ID: <l2wdeb2337a1005070844z41abaf04l505176141cf830fb@mail.gmail.com>

I wonder if there will be a group of chef's in the audience for this? <G>


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Kevin Hunter <hunteke at earlham.edu>
Date: Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:29 AM
Subject: [TriLUG-announce] May meeting: Puppetize It!
To: TriLUG Announce <trilug-announce at trilug.org>


Hello TriLUGgers,

Our May meeting is almost upon us! ?Mike Seda of Seda Systems, Inc. has
offered to present us Puppet, an Open Source Data Center Automation and
Configuration Management framework.

In his presentation, he'll demonstrate the value in "Puppetizing" both
system and application tasks that were originally performed only
by hand and/or home-grown scripts.

Sounds like automation by Shakespeare. ?I wonder if it uses this
language: http://shakespearelang.sourceforge.net/report/shakespeare/ :-)

As usual, check the wiki for pertinent information

http://trilug.org/wiki/Meetings_Schedule
?-> "Puppetize It!"

Hope to see you on May 13th (Thursday) at 7pm! ?Red Hat HQ. ?Woot woot!

Kevin
--
TriLUG-announce mailing list :
http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug-announce
TriLUG Website ? ? ? ? ? ? ? : http://www.trilug.org/wiki/



-- 
Rick DeNatale

Blog: http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
Github: http://github.com/rubyredrick
Twitter: @RickDeNatale
WWR: http://www.workingwithrails.com/person/9021-rick-denatale
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickdenatale

From robbie at statsheet.com  Mon May 10 12:57:50 2010
From: robbie at statsheet.com (Robbie Allen)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 12:57:50 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Looking for Rails Developers
Message-ID: <C80DB34E.16EB3%robbie@statsheet.com>

Do you love sports and enjoy programming in Ruby?  StatSheet, Inc.
(http://statsheet.net) is looking to hire Rails developers to build out
support for every major sport (MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL, Soccer, College FB/BB,
etc.) across the StatSheet platform.

What are we looking for??
- Passionate programmers that enjoy sports?
- Good knowledge of the Ruby programming language?and Rails framework
- Good understanding of SQL
- Hungry to learn
- Optimistic and energetic self starters that can work independently
- Ability to be nimble in a fast-paced environment

What are we NOT looking for??
- People that need to be told what to do constantly?
- People that are uneasy or afraid of competition or being challenged?
- People that are unwilling to consider new ideas and new ways of doing
things?

If you are interested, please contact me at robbie at statsheet.com

I?m also looking for MySQL experts if you know any!

Regards,
Robbie Allen
http://statsheet.net

StatSheet, Inc. is a consumer Internet startup based in RTP, North Carolina
that is looking to disrupt traditional sports media by combining sports
statistics and technology to create content that is more compelling and
comprehensive than editorial sports content alone. 
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From michael.dehaan at gmail.com  Mon May 10 16:34:38 2010
From: michael.dehaan at gmail.com (Michael DeHaan)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 22:34:38 +0200
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Fwd: [TriLUG-announce] May meeting: Puppetize It!
In-Reply-To: <l2wdeb2337a1005070844z41abaf04l505176141cf830fb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BE431D8.9060606@earlham.edu>
	<l2wdeb2337a1005070844z41abaf04l505176141cf830fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil8q3_QOYvOPpZgKsY08L-Q2tqvgtvfLJVrjKz3@mail.gmail.com>

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Kevin Hunter <hunteke at earlham.edu>
> Date: Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:29 AM
> Subject: [TriLUG-announce] May meeting: Puppetize It!
> To: TriLUG Announce <trilug-announce at trilug.org>
>
>
> Hello TriLUGgers,
>
> Our May meeting is almost upon us! ?Mike Seda of Seda Systems, Inc. has
> offered to present us Puppet, an Open Source Data Center Automation and
> Configuration Management framework.
>
> In his presentation, he'll demonstrate the value in "Puppetizing" both
> system and application tasks that were originally performed only
> by hand and/or home-grown scripts.
>
> Sounds like automation by Shakespeare. ?I wonder if it uses this
> language: http://shakespearelang.sourceforge.net/report/shakespeare/ :-)
>
> As usual, check the wiki for pertinent information
>
> http://trilug.org/wiki/Meetings_Schedule
> ?-> "Puppetize It!"
>
> Hope to see you on May 13th (Thursday) at 7pm! ?Red Hat HQ. ?Woot woot!
>
> Kevin
> --


Awesome.

FWIW I'm on the hook for a Puppet presentation to raleigh.rb in
August, but by all means go to this one too.

August will be more about code examples for writing custom types in
Ruby.    (I know it's a long way out, but too many conflicts with
meeting dates until then, sorry)!

--Michael
(michael at puppetlabs.com)

From rsanheim at gmail.com  Tue May 11 16:19:24 2010
From: rsanheim at gmail.com (Rob Sanheim)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 16:19:24 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Open-door BugMash hosted at Relevance this Friday in
	Durham
Message-ID: <AANLkTimHe-OwNFWewtJ3N1dSv-vAtvABxY6z_kNYpvU6@mail.gmail.com>

Hey y'all

To help kick of the Rails 3 BugMash going on this upcoming weekend
[1], we are inviting any interested developers to our office in Durham
this Friday to help kill Rails bugs and hack open source.  You can
find more info at our blog post [2].

We have a plentiful supply of pairing stations, M&M's, and coffee, so
please come by if you want to see our digs, squash some bugs, or just
talk shop and see Relevance HQ.

[1] http://railsbridge.org/news_items/12
[2] http://thinkrelevance.com/blog/2010/05/10/rails-3-bugmash.html

Thanks,
Rob

http://thinkrelevance.com

From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Wed May 12 16:03:32 2010
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 16:03:32 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RailsConf
Message-ID: <AANLkTinf5NBco2cfrv1Ivjx5HyfAM6lTD62QN8Q50hUX@mail.gmail.com>

Who else is going? Anyone want to carpool?

FYI, you can use the code rc10fos to get a 15% discount on admission.


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From redinger at gmail.com  Sat May 15 20:46:35 2010
From: redinger at gmail.com (Christopher Redinger)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 20:46:35 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RailsConf
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinf5NBco2cfrv1Ivjx5HyfAM6lTD62QN8Q50hUX@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinf5NBco2cfrv1Ivjx5HyfAM6lTD62QN8Q50hUX@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87FF5872-2CEB-4D95-A64E-AABF94193BB9@gmail.com>

On May 12, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:

> Who else is going? Anyone want to carpool?

Larry, Aaron, Jess & myself from Relevance are all attending. But we're flying, so we'll skip the carpool.

Definitely interested in socializing while we're up there, though.

--
Christopher Redinger
http://agiledisciple.com
Agile Ruby and Rails Development
(919) 386-9643


From mark at 37signals.com  Sat May 15 21:44:47 2010
From: mark at 37signals.com (Mark Imbriaco)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 21:44:47 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] RailsConf
In-Reply-To: <87FF5872-2CEB-4D95-A64E-AABF94193BB9@gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinf5NBco2cfrv1Ivjx5HyfAM6lTD62QN8Q50hUX@mail.gmail.com>
	<87FF5872-2CEB-4D95-A64E-AABF94193BB9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <24040D0C-30D8-4350-A8A0-511C1F467003@37signals.com>



On May 15, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Christopher Redinger <redinger at gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 12, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Nathaniel Talbott wrote:
> 
>> Who else is going? Anyone want to carpool?
> 
> Larry, Aaron, Jess & myself from Relevance are all attending. But we're flying, so we'll skip the carpool.
> 
> Definitely interested in socializing while we're up there, though.

I am going as well, but I also decided to fly since it's only an hour flight. I'll be getting in on Sunday for Ignite RailsConf and back home on Thursday afternoon.

-Mark

From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Tue May 18 13:23:55 2010
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 13:23:55 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-meeting chow?
Message-ID: <AANLkTikqO35CM_Br5jTMl5Zjv497M9jc1gfrDTMaA76T@mail.gmail.com>

It's that time of month again.

Consensus at Sammy's after last months experiment with tube steaks at
Cloos, seemed to rate it as a fail.  Almost everyone seemed to order a
2nd dinner after the meeting.

Back to Ruckus?

-- 
Rick DeNatale

Blog: http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
Github: http://github.com/rubyredrick
Twitter: @RickDeNatale
WWR: http://www.workingwithrails.com/person/9021-rick-denatale
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickdenatale

From ken.auer at rolemodelsoftware.com  Tue May 18 13:34:14 2010
From: ken.auer at rolemodelsoftware.com (Ken Auer)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 13:34:14 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-meeting chow?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikqO35CM_Br5jTMl5Zjv497M9jc1gfrDTMaA76T@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikqO35CM_Br5jTMl5Zjv497M9jc1gfrDTMaA76T@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikYjRFelTTVcoBVJw9oRyihv6Un0MVNIhXud_wI@mail.gmail.com>

Works for me. 5:30ish?


On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com>wrote:

> It's that time of month again.
>
> Consensus at Sammy's after last months experiment with tube steaks at
> Cloos, seemed to rate it as a fail.  Almost everyone seemed to order a
> 2nd dinner after the meeting.
>
> Back to Ruckus?
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> Blog: http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/
> Github: http://github.com/rubyredrick
> Twitter: @RickDeNatale
> WWR: http://www.workingwithrails.com/person/9021-rick-denatale
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rickdenatale
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
Ken Auer
The Extreme Programming Software Studio?
RoleModel Software              919-557-6352 (v)
6720 RoleModel Way            919-342-5016 (f)
Holly Springs, NC 27540       919-622-8315 (m)

A Member of the RoleModel Community of Businesses (
http://rolemodelcommunity.com)

   "Christianity is not a plug-in, it's an operating system" (see Mark
12:28-31)
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From pelargir at gmail.com  Tue May 18 14:10:03 2010
From: pelargir at gmail.com (Matthew Bass)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:10:03 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Who can record tonight's meeting?
Message-ID: <FF033A3B-24E4-47FE-B588-DC9AFB639550@gmail.com>

Who can record tonight's meeting for the podcast?

Thanks,
Matthew

From nathaniel at talbott.ws  Tue May 18 14:12:13 2010
From: nathaniel at talbott.ws (Nathaniel Talbott)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:12:13 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Pre-meeting chow?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikqO35CM_Br5jTMl5Zjv497M9jc1gfrDTMaA76T@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikqO35CM_Br5jTMl5Zjv497M9jc1gfrDTMaA76T@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinfvdGfxsDzW7789iOFbaQ68THu8xMxzbGYrM1b@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:

> Back to Ruckus?

Ruckus works - see everyone there around 5:30.


-- 
Nathaniel Talbott
<:((><

From ken.auer at rolemodelsoftware.com  Tue May 18 14:55:00 2010
From: ken.auer at rolemodelsoftware.com (Ken Auer)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:55:00 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Need a ride back to Durham tonight for two people.
Message-ID: <AANLkTin6adcQ8OJyKGhsRSWcTZHAWjtJOw5FSvd8lOAr@mail.gmail.com>

I've got two guys from Vermonster working with us today who need to get back
to Durham (Marriott).  I can get them to the meeting, but they could really
use a ride to Durham from the meeting tonight.

Anyone able to help them out?

Thanks,

Ken

-- 
Ken Auer
The Extreme Programming Software Studio?
RoleModel Software              919-557-6352 (v)
6720 RoleModel Way            919-342-5016 (f)
Holly Springs, NC 27540       919-622-8315 (m)

A Member of the RoleModel Community of Businesses (
http://rolemodelcommunity.com)

   "Christianity is not a plug-in, it's an operating system" (see Mark
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From seancribbs at gmail.com  Tue May 18 15:58:37 2010
From: seancribbs at gmail.com (Sean Cribbs)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:58:37 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Need a ride back to Durham tonight for two people.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin6adcQ8OJyKGhsRSWcTZHAWjtJOw5FSvd8lOAr@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin6adcQ8OJyKGhsRSWcTZHAWjtJOw5FSvd8lOAr@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil1AAq8EJBW9IUhZWe3x14SzKYhRJPn4AmuAFwu@mail.gmail.com>

I can give them a lift back on my way home.

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Ken Auer
<ken.auer at rolemodelsoftware.com> wrote:
> I've got two guys from Vermonster working with us today who need to get back
> to Durham (Marriott). ?I can get them to the meeting, but they could really
> use a ride to Durham from the meeting tonight.
> Anyone able to help them out?
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
> --
> Ken Auer
> The Extreme Programming Software Studio?
> RoleModel Software ? ? ? ? ? ? ?919-557-6352 (v)
> 6720 RoleModel Way ? ? ? ? ? ?919-342-5016 (f)
> Holly Springs, NC 27540 ? ? ? 919-622-8315 (m)
>
> A Member of the RoleModel Community of Businesses
> (http://rolemodelcommunity.com)
>
> ? ?"Christianity is not a plug-in, it's an operating system" (see Mark
> 12:28-31)
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com  Tue May 18 16:05:04 2010
From: mark.bennett.mail at gmail.com (Mark Bennett)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:05:04 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Who can record tonight's meeting?
In-Reply-To: <FF033A3B-24E4-47FE-B588-DC9AFB639550@gmail.com>
References: <FF033A3B-24E4-47FE-B588-DC9AFB639550@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTindf1goJqvgL-sSMLzZJkIiFVeYjQ8s4pBx61Ld@mail.gmail.com>

I can bring a Nano but I know the battery is dead and I don't have time to
charge it.  But if Sean has enough juice to feed it we can use it.

Mark

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Matthew Bass <pelargir at gmail.com> wrote:

> Who can record tonight's meeting for the podcast?
>
> Thanks,
> Matthew
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From ken.auer at rolemodelsoftware.com  Tue May 18 17:13:08 2010
From: ken.auer at rolemodelsoftware.com (Ken Auer)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 17:13:08 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Need a ride back to Durham tonight for two people.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil1AAq8EJBW9IUhZWe3x14SzKYhRJPn4AmuAFwu@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin6adcQ8OJyKGhsRSWcTZHAWjtJOw5FSvd8lOAr@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil1AAq8EJBW9IUhZWe3x14SzKYhRJPn4AmuAFwu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik4OyegsgEcbN4dCQLB_sH1wymTsdPAnFobPv0s@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks... It looks like Guus just beat you to it, but perhaps you can serve
as a back up if/when you find which is closer to their destination.

See you tonight.

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Sean Cribbs <seancribbs at gmail.com> wrote:

> I can give them a lift back on my way home.
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Ken Auer
> <ken.auer at rolemodelsoftware.com> wrote:
> > I've got two guys from Vermonster working with us today who need to get
> back
> > to Durham (Marriott).  I can get them to the meeting, but they could
> really
> > use a ride to Durham from the meeting tonight.
> > Anyone able to help them out?
> > Thanks,
> > Ken
> >
> > --
> > Ken Auer
> > The Extreme Programming Software Studio?
> > RoleModel Software              919-557-6352 (v)
> > 6720 RoleModel Way            919-342-5016 (f)
> > Holly Springs, NC 27540       919-622-8315 (m)
> >
> > A Member of the RoleModel Community of Businesses
> > (http://rolemodelcommunity.com)
> >
> >    "Christianity is not a plug-in, it's an operating system" (see Mark
> > 12:28-31)
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> >
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
Ken Auer
The Extreme Programming Software Studio?
RoleModel Software              919-557-6352 (v)
6720 RoleModel Way            919-342-5016 (f)
Holly Springs, NC 27540       919-622-8315 (m)

A Member of the RoleModel Community of Businesses (
http://rolemodelcommunity.com)

   "Christianity is not a plug-in, it's an operating system" (see Mark
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From thomas at ravinggenius.com  Wed May 19 10:08:18 2010
From: thomas at ravinggenius.com (Thomas Ingram)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:08:18 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apache/Passenger/PHP weirdness
Message-ID: <AANLkTinxlMAfBi-oxXcqpC5n_LlS8yUG5Qkf13mTPMOc@mail.gmail.com>

I am trying to run a Rails application and a WordPress blog on the
same virtual host, accessible via separate URLs. Rails' URL is
app.example.com and the blog should have example.com (www.example.com
redirects to example.com). The Rails app is running just fine. The
blog however keeps giving permission denied error messages whenever I
try to access PHP. Non-PHP resources seem to be okay, so when I
created a dummy text file in the web root directory, it came up in my
browser just fine. Renaming the text file to have a PHP extension gave
me the same permission denied error. Granting 777 permissions to the
file didn't help. I have also tried changing the owner of the entire
web root recursively to root, nobody and a couple other users that
looked hopeful. I have changed the group to www-data. I can view
WordPress's readme.html just fine, but PHP files continue to generate
a 403.

Searching the Internet for hasn't turned up anything useful. I went
through the error log, and searched for '.php', but nothing was found.
The access logs showed that PHP files were requested and given a 403,
but nothing useful.

Short of setting up two separate VPSs, what can I do?

Side note: Looking through the logs illuminated another issue. It
seems that monit (a site health monitoring program for Rails running
on the server) has been trying to access
'/fitter_happier/site_and_database_check' once every second for
several days now. Of course this returns a 404 error, as WordPress is
not a Rails application. I don't think this is related to the PHP
issue, but I thought I would mention it. It is making the log files
harder to read; access and error both have over 6300 entries and
nearly all of them are there because of monit requests.

-- 
Thomas Ingram ><>
Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
919 449.6305
thomas at ravinggenius.com
http://www.ravinggenius.com/
http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/

From nwalls at ismedia.org  Wed May 19 10:28:45 2010
From: nwalls at ismedia.org (Nathan L. Walls)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:28:45 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apache/Passenger/PHP weirdness
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinxlMAfBi-oxXcqpC5n_LlS8yUG5Qkf13mTPMOc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinxlMAfBi-oxXcqpC5n_LlS8yUG5Qkf13mTPMOc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8015E7F0-238F-428C-B612-271CF65F6C3A@ismedia.org>

Are you restricting Passenger to a subdirectory or in some other way keeping Rails and PHP from seeing each other's urls?

Cheers,

Nathan
--
Nathan L. Walls | http://wallscorp.us/

On May 19, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Thomas Ingram wrote:

> I am trying to run a Rails application and a WordPress blog on the
> same virtual host, accessible via separate URLs. Rails' URL is
> app.example.com and the blog should have example.com (www.example.com
> redirects to example.com). The Rails app is running just fine. The
> blog however keeps giving permission denied error messages whenever I
> try to access PHP. Non-PHP resources seem to be okay, so when I
> created a dummy text file in the web root directory, it came up in my
> browser just fine. Renaming the text file to have a PHP extension gave
> me the same permission denied error. Granting 777 permissions to the
> file didn't help. I have also tried changing the owner of the entire
> web root recursively to root, nobody and a couple other users that
> looked hopeful. I have changed the group to www-data. I can view
> WordPress's readme.html just fine, but PHP files continue to generate
> a 403.
> 
> Searching the Internet for hasn't turned up anything useful. I went
> through the error log, and searched for '.php', but nothing was found.
> The access logs showed that PHP files were requested and given a 403,
> but nothing useful.
> 
> Short of setting up two separate VPSs, what can I do?
> 
> Side note: Looking through the logs illuminated another issue. It
> seems that monit (a site health monitoring program for Rails running
> on the server) has been trying to access
> '/fitter_happier/site_and_database_check' once every second for
> several days now. Of course this returns a 404 error, as WordPress is
> not a Rails application. I don't think this is related to the PHP
> issue, but I thought I would mention it. It is making the log files
> harder to read; access and error both have over 6300 entries and
> nearly all of them are there because of monit requests.
> 
> -- 
> Thomas Ingram ><>
> Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
> 919 449.6305
> thomas at ravinggenius.com
> http://www.ravinggenius.com/
> http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From matt.dolian at mac.com  Wed May 19 10:50:24 2010
From: matt.dolian at mac.com (Matthew Dolian)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:50:24 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apache/Passenger/PHP weirdness
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinxlMAfBi-oxXcqpC5n_LlS8yUG5Qkf13mTPMOc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinxlMAfBi-oxXcqpC5n_LlS8yUG5Qkf13mTPMOc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8FF2DF82-EE6D-49FE-AEA6-66541E815773@mac.com>

You might try a separate vhost, then use a proxy_pass to send requests on /blog or whatever to the new vhost.  I have seen that setup work in Nginx, but I don't have much experience with Apache/Passenger.  If you want to use the same domain name, you can put the new vhost on a different port.  

-Matt


On May 19, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Thomas Ingram wrote:

> I am trying to run a Rails application and a WordPress blog on the
> same virtual host, accessible via separate URLs. Rails' URL is
> app.example.com and the blog should have example.com (www.example.com
> redirects to example.com). The Rails app is running just fine. The
> blog however keeps giving permission denied error messages whenever I
> try to access PHP. Non-PHP resources seem to be okay, so when I
> created a dummy text file in the web root directory, it came up in my
> browser just fine. Renaming the text file to have a PHP extension gave
> me the same permission denied error. Granting 777 permissions to the
> file didn't help. I have also tried changing the owner of the entire
> web root recursively to root, nobody and a couple other users that
> looked hopeful. I have changed the group to www-data. I can view
> WordPress's readme.html just fine, but PHP files continue to generate
> a 403.
> 
> Searching the Internet for hasn't turned up anything useful. I went
> through the error log, and searched for '.php', but nothing was found.
> The access logs showed that PHP files were requested and given a 403,
> but nothing useful.
> 
> Short of setting up two separate VPSs, what can I do?
> 
> Side note: Looking through the logs illuminated another issue. It
> seems that monit (a site health monitoring program for Rails running
> on the server) has been trying to access
> '/fitter_happier/site_and_database_check' once every second for
> several days now. Of course this returns a 404 error, as WordPress is
> not a Rails application. I don't think this is related to the PHP
> issue, but I thought I would mention it. It is making the log files
> harder to read; access and error both have over 6300 entries and
> nearly all of them are there because of monit requests.
> 
> -- 
> Thomas Ingram ><>
> Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
> 919 449.6305
> thomas at ravinggenius.com
> http://www.ravinggenius.com/
> http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From thomas at ravinggenius.com  Wed May 19 11:04:00 2010
From: thomas at ravinggenius.com (Thomas Ingram)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 11:04:00 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apache/Passenger/PHP weirdness
In-Reply-To: <8FF2DF82-EE6D-49FE-AEA6-66541E815773@mac.com>
References: <AANLkTinxlMAfBi-oxXcqpC5n_LlS8yUG5Qkf13mTPMOc@mail.gmail.com>
	<8FF2DF82-EE6D-49FE-AEA6-66541E815773@mac.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik3bk7OYc2i9_kVjKuQljKC3O7Seh3KmEELLta7@mail.gmail.com>

Rails and WordPress have separate vhost configurations. Is that what
you mean? We want to use separate domains, app.example.com for Rails,
(www.)example.com for WordPress.

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:50, Matthew Dolian <matt.dolian at mac.com> wrote:
> You might try a separate vhost, then use a proxy_pass to send requests on /blog or whatever to the new vhost. ?I have seen that setup work in Nginx, but I don't have much experience with Apache/Passenger. ?If you want to use the same domain name, you can put the new vhost on a different port.

-- 
Thomas Ingram ><>
Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
919 449.6305
thomas at ravinggenius.com
http://www.ravinggenius.com/
http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/

From thomas at ravinggenius.com  Wed May 19 10:59:19 2010
From: thomas at ravinggenius.com (Thomas Ingram)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:59:19 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apache/Passenger/PHP weirdness
In-Reply-To: <8015E7F0-238F-428C-B612-271CF65F6C3A@ismedia.org>
References: <AANLkTinxlMAfBi-oxXcqpC5n_LlS8yUG5Qkf13mTPMOc@mail.gmail.com>
	<8015E7F0-238F-428C-B612-271CF65F6C3A@ismedia.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTineeKuR12Wd1Vh0FnuCOybOnXRG2vBqdeKdgBSG@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not sure. I didn't do the original Rails/Passenger or server
setup. How could I find out?

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:28, Nathan L. Walls <nwalls at ismedia.org> wrote:
> Are you restricting Passenger to a subdirectory or in some other way keeping Rails and PHP from seeing each other's urls?

-- 
Thomas Ingram ><>
Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
919 449.6305
thomas at ravinggenius.com
http://www.ravinggenius.com/
http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/

From thomas at ravinggenius.com  Wed May 19 11:04:00 2010
From: thomas at ravinggenius.com (Thomas Ingram)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 11:04:00 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apache/Passenger/PHP weirdness
In-Reply-To: <8FF2DF82-EE6D-49FE-AEA6-66541E815773@mac.com>
References: <AANLkTinxlMAfBi-oxXcqpC5n_LlS8yUG5Qkf13mTPMOc@mail.gmail.com>
	<8FF2DF82-EE6D-49FE-AEA6-66541E815773@mac.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik3bk7OYc2i9_kVjKuQljKC3O7Seh3KmEELLta7@mail.gmail.com>

Rails and WordPress have separate vhost configurations. Is that what
you mean? We want to use separate domains, app.example.com for Rails,
(www.)example.com for WordPress.

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:50, Matthew Dolian <matt.dolian at mac.com> wrote:
> You might try a separate vhost, then use a proxy_pass to send requests on /blog or whatever to the new vhost. ?I have seen that setup work in Nginx, but I don't have much experience with Apache/Passenger. ?If you want to use the same domain name, you can put the new vhost on a different port.

-- 
Thomas Ingram ><>
Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
919 449.6305
thomas at ravinggenius.com
http://www.ravinggenius.com/
http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/

From mikehale at gmail.com  Wed May 19 11:20:02 2010
From: mikehale at gmail.com (Michael Hale)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 11:20:02 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apache/Passenger/PHP weirdness
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik3bk7OYc2i9_kVjKuQljKC3O7Seh3KmEELLta7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinxlMAfBi-oxXcqpC5n_LlS8yUG5Qkf13mTPMOc@mail.gmail.com>
	<8FF2DF82-EE6D-49FE-AEA6-66541E815773@mac.com>
	<AANLkTik3bk7OYc2i9_kVjKuQljKC3O7Seh3KmEELLta7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinbDv-Bujwdso5Y8YzCt6pn8kSVBkVoKP_xhhQi@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Thomas,

I'll chime in here since I know a bit about the setup. I think the key
is to get php working under mod_fcgid. I'm guessing something needs to
be tweaked about the mod_fcgid configuration to resolve the
permissions issue you are seeing. Perhaps apache is not able to
execute the script referenced by FCGIWrapper?

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Thomas Ingram <thomas at ravinggenius.com> wrote:
> Rails and WordPress have separate vhost configurations. Is that what
> you mean? We want to use separate domains, app.example.com for Rails,
> (www.)example.com for WordPress.
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:50, Matthew Dolian <matt.dolian at mac.com> wrote:
>> You might try a separate vhost, then use a proxy_pass to send requests on /blog or whatever to the new vhost. ?I have seen that setup work in Nginx, but I don't have much experience with Apache/Passenger. ?If you want to use the same domain name, you can put the new vhost on a different port.
>
> --
> Thomas Ingram ><>
> Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
> 919 449.6305
> thomas at ravinggenius.com
> http://www.ravinggenius.com/
> http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

From matt.dolian at mac.com  Wed May 19 10:25:25 2010
From: matt.dolian at mac.com (Matthew Dolian)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:25:25 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apache/Passenger/PHP weirdness
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinxlMAfBi-oxXcqpC5n_LlS8yUG5Qkf13mTPMOc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinxlMAfBi-oxXcqpC5n_LlS8yUG5Qkf13mTPMOc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A80BEC37-EF5B-41BC-B494-558695FA7669@mac.com>

You might try a separate vhost on another port, then use a proxy_pass to send requests on /blog or whatever to the new vhost.  I have seen that setup work in Nginx, but I don't have much experience with Apache/Passenger.

-Matt

On May 19, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Thomas Ingram wrote:

> I am trying to run a Rails application and a WordPress blog on the
> same virtual host, accessible via separate URLs. Rails' URL is
> app.example.com and the blog should have example.com (www.example.com
> redirects to example.com). The Rails app is running just fine. The
> blog however keeps giving permission denied error messages whenever I
> try to access PHP. Non-PHP resources seem to be okay, so when I
> created a dummy text file in the web root directory, it came up in my
> browser just fine. Renaming the text file to have a PHP extension gave
> me the same permission denied error. Granting 777 permissions to the
> file didn't help. I have also tried changing the owner of the entire
> web root recursively to root, nobody and a couple other users that
> looked hopeful. I have changed the group to www-data. I can view
> WordPress's readme.html just fine, but PHP files continue to generate
> a 403.
> 
> Searching the Internet for hasn't turned up anything useful. I went
> through the error log, and searched for '.php', but nothing was found.
> The access logs showed that PHP files were requested and given a 403,
> but nothing useful.
> 
> Short of setting up two separate VPSs, what can I do?
> 
> Side note: Looking through the logs illuminated another issue. It
> seems that monit (a site health monitoring program for Rails running
> on the server) has been trying to access
> '/fitter_happier/site_and_database_check' once every second for
> several days now. Of course this returns a 404 error, as WordPress is
> not a Rails application. I don't think this is related to the PHP
> issue, but I thought I would mention it. It is making the log files
> harder to read; access and error both have over 6300 entries and
> nearly all of them are there because of monit requests.
> 
> -- 
> Thomas Ingram ><>
> Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
> 919 449.6305
> thomas at ravinggenius.com
> http://www.ravinggenius.com/
> http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From belucid at acm.org  Wed May 19 11:56:15 2010
From: belucid at acm.org (Sean Johnson)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 11:56:15 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Code and presentation from last night's talk
Message-ID: <6BF4A1A7-9BCF-4627-A74A-53BE8417A315@acm.org>

Fellows,

	Thanks so much for having me present last night. The code and slides (PDF) are here:

Slides-
http://github.com/belucid/Raleigh.rb---Native-C-Extensions/raw/master/Ruby%20Native%20Extensions.pdf

Code-
http://github.com/belucid/Raleigh.rb---Native-C-Extensions


	No one has claimed the prize for fixing the C factorial example integer overflow yet....

Thanks,
Sean

__________
Sean Johnson
belucid at acm.org


From nwalls at ismedia.org  Wed May 19 14:58:12 2010
From: nwalls at ismedia.org (Nathan L. Walls)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:58:12 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apache/Passenger/PHP weirdness
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTineeKuR12Wd1Vh0FnuCOybOnXRG2vBqdeKdgBSG@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinxlMAfBi-oxXcqpC5n_LlS8yUG5Qkf13mTPMOc@mail.gmail.com>
	<8015E7F0-238F-428C-B612-271CF65F6C3A@ismedia.org>
	<AANLkTineeKuR12Wd1Vh0FnuCOybOnXRG2vBqdeKdgBSG@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FC377F04-AC00-4C55-8231-A42041646EF1@ismedia.org>

Thomas;

I'd start by looking at how the Apache virtual hosts are configured, then seeing how the Rails app is set to respond to queries. If you have one VPS, but separate Apache virtual hosts, this shouldn't matter. Passenger is configured in one, PHP owns the second. I think everything in one vhost should work, but that doesn't sound like what you're after, since it'd be easier to keep the subdomains separate.

I suspect disabling the Rails vhost and seeing if there isn't a PHP/Apache config issue at play.

Cheers,

Nathan

On May 19, 2010, at 10:59 AM, Thomas Ingram wrote:

> I'm not sure. I didn't do the original Rails/Passenger or server
> setup. How could I find out?
> 
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:28, Nathan L. Walls <nwalls at ismedia.org> wrote:
>> Are you restricting Passenger to a subdirectory or in some other way keeping Rails and PHP from seeing each other's urls?


From thomas at ravinggenius.com  Wed May 19 21:56:47 2010
From: thomas at ravinggenius.com (Thomas Ingram)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 21:56:47 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apache/Passenger/PHP weirdness
In-Reply-To: <FC377F04-AC00-4C55-8231-A42041646EF1@ismedia.org>
References: <AANLkTinxlMAfBi-oxXcqpC5n_LlS8yUG5Qkf13mTPMOc@mail.gmail.com>
	<8015E7F0-238F-428C-B612-271CF65F6C3A@ismedia.org>
	<AANLkTineeKuR12Wd1Vh0FnuCOybOnXRG2vBqdeKdgBSG@mail.gmail.com>
	<FC377F04-AC00-4C55-8231-A42041646EF1@ismedia.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilx8mSLA66Zh8icdJQtJsYB0F15lp1AI3vIdgXq@mail.gmail.com>

I tried that, but still not working, so I re-enabled the Rails app.

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 14:58, Nathan L. Walls <nwalls at ismedia.org> wrote:
> I suspect disabling the Rails vhost and seeing if there isn't a PHP/Apache config issue at play.

-- 
Thomas Ingram ><>
Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
919 449.6305
thomas at ravinggenius.com
http://www.ravinggenius.com/
http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/

From mmzyk at programmersparadox.com  Thu May 20 10:12:11 2010
From: mmzyk at programmersparadox.com (Mark Mzyk)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 10:12:11 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Seth Godin's Linchpin
Message-ID: <AANLkTimxsU3H701uNRSVKFWAsq-v4suhS1YIzkbDbsEE@mail.gmail.com>

Since I know several people from the list are fans of Seth Godin:

I have a copy of Linchpin that is just sitting at my house that I'll give to
anyone who wants it.

It's a good book that I recommend, but it needs to leave my house so I can
reclaim shelf space.  Besides, books are only worth something when they're
being read.  Let me know if you want it and I'll bring it with me to the
next raleigh.rb.

While we're talking about exchanging books: if anyone has a copy of Rework
they'd be willing to loan me, I'll appreciate it.

- Mark Mzyk
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From randomutterings at gmail.com  Thu May 20 13:05:20 2010
From: randomutterings at gmail.com (Chris Barnes)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:05:20 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apache/Passenger/PHP weirdness
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilx8mSLA66Zh8icdJQtJsYB0F15lp1AI3vIdgXq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinxlMAfBi-oxXcqpC5n_LlS8yUG5Qkf13mTPMOc@mail.gmail.com>
	<8015E7F0-238F-428C-B612-271CF65F6C3A@ismedia.org>
	<AANLkTineeKuR12Wd1Vh0FnuCOybOnXRG2vBqdeKdgBSG@mail.gmail.com>
	<FC377F04-AC00-4C55-8231-A42041646EF1@ismedia.org>
	<AANLkTilx8mSLA66Zh8icdJQtJsYB0F15lp1AI3vIdgXq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinfB7DprXHbpwTh3A4FudrfenWq9g5PF8b5lsBq@mail.gmail.com>

I just setup PHP5 and Passenger on Ubuntu using separate vhosts with
subdomains and its working great.  I did read a post somewhere
detailing an issue when installing Passenger from the Ubuntu
repositories, libapache2-mod-passenger uninstalls libapache2-mod-php5
and php5.  The post suggested installing Passenger like detailed at
http://www.modrails.com/install.html.  Not sure if this is related to
your problem or not but I thought I would mention.

Chris Barnes
http://www.randomutterings.com



On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Thomas Ingram <thomas at ravinggenius.com> wrote:
> I tried that, but still not working, so I re-enabled the Rails app.
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 14:58, Nathan L. Walls <nwalls at ismedia.org> wrote:
>> I suspect disabling the Rails vhost and seeing if there isn't a PHP/Apache config issue at play.
>
> --
> Thomas Ingram ><>
> Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
> 919 449.6305
> thomas at ravinggenius.com
> http://www.ravinggenius.com/
> http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
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From steve at iannopollo.com  Wed May 26 10:13:30 2010
From: steve at iannopollo.com (Steve Iannopollo)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:13:30 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] job opportunity
Message-ID: <70609581-243E-46E6-87A1-7D2A018BA876@iannopollo.com>

A company I worked for in the Fall is looking for a developer to work on their Rails app (looks like mostly front-end, javascripty type work, but I could be wrong). 

http://jobs.rubynow.com/jobs/show/3972

Email me if you're interested and you want any "dirt" on them :-)

-Steve

From ryan.daigle at gmail.com  Wed May 26 16:09:10 2010
From: ryan.daigle at gmail.com (Ryan Daigle)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 16:09:10 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ruby-centric designer/slicer opportunity
Message-ID: <06AFB2D1-F9DB-42F1-8CF2-D641319C2A14@gmail.com>

Afternoon everybody,

I know most people on this list are developer-types, but I'm hoping you've have some recommendations for me.  My company, DigitalToniq, is looking for a responsible and responsive front-end designer/developer to help out with several projects, initially on a contract basis.  We're looking for the following skills, in general order of importance:

PSD to HTML/CSS slicing including solid knowledge of CSS and the best slicing techniques
Proficient with Photoshop and Fireworks
Comfortable working with Ruby/Rails web apps
Experience with javascript and client-side libraries such as JQuery (ExtJS a plus)
Familiarity with associated Ruby templating tools like HAML/SASS and Compass
Use of Firebug (and perhaps something like CSSEdit) to expedite the design process
Experience with Wordpress themes and widgets

Ideally we're looking for somebody that possess all the skills above, but we'd be willing to work with them if they're hard working and a quick learner.  We're looking to establish long-running working relationship with this designer and would be eager to expand their responsibilities to iPhone and iPad design work as well, once we've established a mutually beneficial working relationship.

If you, or someone you know, is interested in this type of work please send an email to jobs at digitaltoniq.com with your hourly rate and some examples of work that would satisfy the above skills we're looking for.

Thanks everybody!

-Ryan

Ryan Daigle | DigitalToniq | http://digitaltoniq.com

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From thomas at ravinggenius.com  Thu May 27 16:38:57 2010
From: thomas at ravinggenius.com (Thomas Ingram)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:38:57 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] MongoMapper
Message-ID: <AANLkTimoQVYN1JrexNyuvqYANOgliL_Vzo5pveeSd3ys@mail.gmail.com>

MongoMapper automatically creates alpha-numeric _id properties
(4bfdeb9d1d41c8262f000001) for models. Is there a way to use an
auto-incrementing integer _id instead? I've searched around and
haven't found an answer, but I wanted to ask before giving up. Thanks.

-- 
Thomas Ingram ><>
Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
919 449.6305
thomas at ravinggenius.com
http://www.ravinggenius.com/
http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/

From javery at infozerk.com  Thu May 27 16:55:52 2010
From: javery at infozerk.com (James Avery)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:55:52 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] MongoMapper
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimoQVYN1JrexNyuvqYANOgliL_Vzo5pveeSd3ys@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimoQVYN1JrexNyuvqYANOgliL_Vzo5pveeSd3ys@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinSt0S_7QciHOVJoM-1wMUQhxT7O5isF4OYwr-V@mail.gmail.com>

That alpha-numeric _id being generated is the best way to work with MongoDB
and unless you have a good reason I wouldn't change it. When it comes to
sharding/replication and just the general way that Mongo works (connection
based queues), you are much better off using a generated unique value like
that.

You could set the _id property manually to an integer but you would need
keep track of those numbers in your application. You could also write a
query in Mongo to get the next _id to use but since you can't do it as part
of a single atomic operation it's pretty useless imo (
http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Atomic+Operations - "Insert If Not
Present" section).

-James


On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Thomas Ingram <thomas at ravinggenius.com>wrote:

> MongoMapper automatically creates alpha-numeric _id properties
> (4bfdeb9d1d41c8262f000001) for models. Is there a way to use an
> auto-incrementing integer _id instead? I've searched around and
> haven't found an answer, but I wanted to ask before giving up. Thanks.
>
> --
> Thomas Ingram ><>
> Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
> 919 449.6305
> thomas at ravinggenius.com
> http://www.ravinggenius.com/
> http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/
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-- 
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From thomas at ravinggenius.com  Thu May 27 17:35:30 2010
From: thomas at ravinggenius.com (Thomas Ingram)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:35:30 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] MongoMapper
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinSt0S_7QciHOVJoM-1wMUQhxT7O5isF4OYwr-V@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimoQVYN1JrexNyuvqYANOgliL_Vzo5pveeSd3ys@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinSt0S_7QciHOVJoM-1wMUQhxT7O5isF4OYwr-V@mail.gmail.com>
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Okay, thanks. I'll just deal with it.

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 16:55, James Avery <javery at infozerk.com> wrote:
> That alpha-numeric _id being generated is the best way to work with MongoDB
> and unless you have a good reason I wouldn't change it. When it comes to
> sharding/replication and just the general way that Mongo works (connection
> based queues), you are much better off using a generated unique value like
> that.
> You could set the _id property manually to an integer but you would need
> keep track of those numbers in your application. You could also write a
> query in Mongo to get the next _id to use but since you can't do it as part
> of a single atomic operation it's pretty useless imo
> (http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Atomic+Operations - "Insert If Not
> Present" section).

-- 
Thomas Ingram ><>
Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
919 449.6305
thomas at ravinggenius.com
http://www.ravinggenius.com/
http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/

From jeff at canna.ws  Sat May 29 09:41:52 2010
From: jeff at canna.ws (Jeff Canna)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 09:41:52 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] hosting reccomendations
Message-ID: <AANLkTinAPcBf81t3Z81ZlqkHUZzkgZomdj4bE3JI8pKt@mail.gmail.com>

I am building a small site for a non profit that I am involved with.

Any advice on where would be a good place to host this?
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From redinger at gmail.com  Sat May 29 10:02:54 2010
From: redinger at gmail.com (Christopher Redinger)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 10:02:54 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] hosting reccomendations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinAPcBf81t3Z81ZlqkHUZzkgZomdj4bE3JI8pKt@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinAPcBf81t3Z81ZlqkHUZzkgZomdj4bE3JI8pKt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5F9D1539-FDCD-4077-A42C-BB0B30E794FA@gmail.com>

Have you looked at heroku? Great place to start.

On May 29, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Jeff Canna wrote:

> I am building a small site for a non profit that I am involved with. 
> 
> Any advice on where would be a good place to host this?
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

--
Christopher Redinger
http://agiledisciple.com
Agile Ruby and Rails Development
(919) 386-9643


From brentmc79 at gmail.com  Sat May 29 10:05:10 2010
From: brentmc79 at gmail.com (Brent Collier)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 10:05:10 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] hosting reccomendations
In-Reply-To: <5F9D1539-FDCD-4077-A42C-BB0B30E794FA@gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinAPcBf81t3Z81ZlqkHUZzkgZomdj4bE3JI8pKt@mail.gmail.com>
	<5F9D1539-FDCD-4077-A42C-BB0B30E794FA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinHzZ-idkGj-KORY_6DgPOTRMtPwmLrfTZxEu9n@mail.gmail.com>

+1 for heroku

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Christopher Redinger
<redinger at gmail.com>wrote:

> Have you looked at heroku? Great place to start.
>
> On May 29, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Jeff Canna wrote:
>
> > I am building a small site for a non profit that I am involved with.
> >
> > Any advice on where would be a good place to host this?
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> --
> Christopher Redinger
> http://agiledisciple.com
> Agile Ruby and Rails Development
> (919) 386-9643
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
Brent Collier | 919.564.6915 | www.BrentCollier.com | www.brentmc79.com
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From davidbogus at gmail.com  Sat May 29 12:03:00 2010
From: davidbogus at gmail.com (David Bogus)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 12:03:00 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] hosting reccomendations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinAPcBf81t3Z81ZlqkHUZzkgZomdj4bE3JI8pKt@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinAPcBf81t3Z81ZlqkHUZzkgZomdj4bE3JI8pKt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimAPsjgrxEgVmgaaekvyVFDGVOfFMa9PwDmIuvJ@mail.gmail.com>

Is it a very dynamic site?

I've enjoyed doing low budget sites by using StaticMatic site
generator and putting all the interaction into javascript. That allows
me to use any webhosting, including ones that don't support the
langauage or framework de jour.

Dave

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Jeff Canna <jeff at canna.ws> wrote:
> I am building a small site for a non profit that I am involved with.
>
> Any advice on where would be a good place to host this?
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>



-- 
Dave's Definitions: Morning, is after I've slept for more than four
hours. Lunch is the second meal of the day no matter the hour of
consumption. A long drive is one longer then you have last slept.
Ineffable, if you don't understand I couldn't possibly explain it.

From jon.list+rb at gmail.com  Sat May 29 14:37:38 2010
From: jon.list+rb at gmail.com (Jonathon Brenner)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 14:37:38 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] hosting reccomendations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinHzZ-idkGj-KORY_6DgPOTRMtPwmLrfTZxEu9n@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinAPcBf81t3Z81ZlqkHUZzkgZomdj4bE3JI8pKt@mail.gmail.com>
	<5F9D1539-FDCD-4077-A42C-BB0B30E794FA@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinHzZ-idkGj-KORY_6DgPOTRMtPwmLrfTZxEu9n@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikYTvzSgQilITSUiUcy_FzGc5vp6UfEuAnEwyix@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe I'm missing something, but how do the economics of it work out when
stacked against a VPS hosting solution? It seems to be insanely expensive
compared to a VPS from, say, HostGator.

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Brent Collier <brentmc79 at gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 for heroku
>
>
> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Christopher Redinger <redinger at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Have you looked at heroku? Great place to start.
>>
>> On May 29, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Jeff Canna wrote:
>>
>> > I am building a small site for a non profit that I am involved with.
>> >
>> > Any advice on where would be a good place to host this?
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>> --
>> Christopher Redinger
>> http://agiledisciple.com
>> Agile Ruby and Rails Development
>> (919) 386-9643
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Brent Collier | 919.564.6915 | www.BrentCollier.com | www.brentmc79.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From steve.pinkham at gmail.com  Sat May 29 16:12:08 2010
From: steve.pinkham at gmail.com (Steve Pinkham)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 16:12:08 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] hosting reccomendations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimAPsjgrxEgVmgaaekvyVFDGVOfFMa9PwDmIuvJ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinAPcBf81t3Z81ZlqkHUZzkgZomdj4bE3JI8pKt@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimAPsjgrxEgVmgaaekvyVFDGVOfFMa9PwDmIuvJ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C017518.7060002@gmail.com>

+1 for static generators.  I prefer nanoc myself, but there's a number
of good ones out there, all with their own quirks.

Not only do you get the fastest possible site on the cheapest hosting,
you get many less security problems to worry about.  This is especially
important on one-off sites where you don't want to have to keep up with
version upgrades.

At least in nanoc, it's still pretty easy to use erb or PHP to do
limited server side programming where necessary.
(http://projects.stoneship.org/trac/nanoc/wiki/Tips/CreatingDynamicPages)

Obviously if it's a highly interactive site, static generators are
probably not the tool for the job.

As an aside, I use Slicehost for most of my hosting, and HostGator
shared hosting for a few non-critical things like my wife's blog.  I've
been quite pleased with both.

Web hosting talk (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/) is the best place I
know of to check out a host before buying.

Steve
On 05/29/2010 12:03 PM, David Bogus wrote:
> Is it a very dynamic site?
> 
> I've enjoyed doing low budget sites by using StaticMatic site
> generator and putting all the interaction into javascript. That allows
> me to use any webhosting, including ones that don't support the
> langauage or framework de jour.
> 
> Dave


-- 
 | Steven Pinkham, Security Researcher    |
 | http://www.mavensecurity.com           |
 | GPG public key ID CD31CAFB             |

From jrubyforge-raleigh-rb at indythinker.com  Sat May 29 11:59:47 2010
From: jrubyforge-raleigh-rb at indythinker.com (Justis Peters)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 11:59:47 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] hosting reccomendations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinAPcBf81t3Z81ZlqkHUZzkgZomdj4bE3JI8pKt@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinAPcBf81t3Z81ZlqkHUZzkgZomdj4bE3JI8pKt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C0139F3.6000107@indythinker.com>

Jeff Canna wrote:
> I am building a small site for a non profit that I am involved with.
>
> Any advice on where would be a good place to host this?
RTPnet is local and specializes in hosting for non-profit organizations:
http://rtpnet.org/

Kind regards,
Justis

From minter at lunenburg.org  Sat May 29 21:13:33 2010
From: minter at lunenburg.org (H. Wade Minter)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 20:13:33 -0500
Subject: [raleigh.rb] hosting reccomendations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinAPcBf81t3Z81ZlqkHUZzkgZomdj4bE3JI8pKt@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinAPcBf81t3Z81ZlqkHUZzkgZomdj4bE3JI8pKt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5E76614D-8789-4239-AC47-5EA110703414@lunenburg.org>

If you have questions about Rackspace Cloud Servers (or Slicehost), I can help you out.  They're pretty cost-effective VPSs.

--Wade

On May 29, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Jeff Canna wrote:

> I am building a small site for a non profit that I am involved with. 
> 
> Any advice on where would be a good place to host this?
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From contact.awgy at gmail.com  Sun May 30 13:24:18 2010
From: contact.awgy at gmail.com (David Rosner)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 13:24:18 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Apache/Passenger/PHP weirdness
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinfB7DprXHbpwTh3A4FudrfenWq9g5PF8b5lsBq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinxlMAfBi-oxXcqpC5n_LlS8yUG5Qkf13mTPMOc@mail.gmail.com>
	<8015E7F0-238F-428C-B612-271CF65F6C3A@ismedia.org>
	<AANLkTineeKuR12Wd1Vh0FnuCOybOnXRG2vBqdeKdgBSG@mail.gmail.com>
	<FC377F04-AC00-4C55-8231-A42041646EF1@ismedia.org>
	<AANLkTilx8mSLA66Zh8icdJQtJsYB0F15lp1AI3vIdgXq@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinfB7DprXHbpwTh3A4FudrfenWq9g5PF8b5lsBq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikOXNtrClkpENTpQvx0-JvutpqTRorvCTK8yGZ3@mail.gmail.com>

I'm a bit late on this, but it looks like your blog is still down from the
links on your site...

You can (and should) turn off Passenger for not rails apps by using the
PassengerEnabled option in the vhosts configuration.  Search for it in the
user's guide for more details:
http://www.modrails.com/documentation/Users%20guide.html

It does not sound like a unix permissions error.  Have you gone through a
setup tutorial to see if you can get a basic PHP page working under
Apache2?  Following this howto up to step 5 should do the trick:
http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-apache2-with-php5-and-mysql-support-on-ubuntu-9.10-lamp

Also, make sure php5 is being loaded by Apache.  On Debian, php5.load and
php5.conf need to be linked from /etc/apache2/mods-available to
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled.

Good luck getting everything working!

-Dave

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Chris Barnes <randomutterings at gmail.com>wrote:

> I just setup PHP5 and Passenger on Ubuntu using separate vhosts with
> subdomains and its working great.  I did read a post somewhere
> detailing an issue when installing Passenger from the Ubuntu
> repositories, libapache2-mod-passenger uninstalls libapache2-mod-php5
> and php5.  The post suggested installing Passenger like detailed at
> http://www.modrails.com/install.html.  Not sure if this is related to
> your problem or not but I thought I would mention.
>
> Chris Barnes
> http://www.randomutterings.com
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Thomas Ingram <thomas at ravinggenius.com>
> wrote:
> > I tried that, but still not working, so I re-enabled the Rails app.
> >
> > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 14:58, Nathan L. Walls <nwalls at ismedia.org>
> wrote:
> >> I suspect disabling the Rails vhost and seeing if there isn't a
> PHP/Apache config issue at play.
> >
> > --
> > Thomas Ingram ><>
> > Raving Genius? - foaming at the brain?
> > 919 449.6305
> > thomas at ravinggenius.com
> > http://www.ravinggenius.com/
> > http://www.isittheweekendyet.com/
> > _______________________________________________
> > raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> > raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> _______________________________________________
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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