From jon.list+rb at gmail.com  Sun Oct  2 20:27:09 2011
From: jon.list+rb at gmail.com (Jonathon Brenner)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 20:27:09 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ruby opportunities
In-Reply-To: <015301cc7f84$0e981400$2bc83c00$@hirenetworks.com>
References: <015301cc7f84$0e981400$2bc83c00$@hirenetworks.com>
Message-ID: <CAG18nusuhew3Cx4HVPYzGvYaBsarhjygC8sYWQgT9YCQcWZi9w@mail.gmail.com>

I'm interested in the Raleigh postings. Can you please send me more
information?

Jonathon

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Kendra Andrews
<kandrews at hirenetworks.com>wrote:

> I have several Ruby openings for direct hire opportunities with clients.
> Looking for people in Raleigh, Charlotte or Gaithersburg, MD, or at least
> open to moving to those areas. MD client will sponsor, the others will not.
> Jobs are all different so reach out to me if you?d like some details.  ***
> *
>
> ** **
>
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>
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>
> *Kendra Andrews***
>
> Director of Recruiting****
>
> HireNetworks****
>
> 919-981-6200 x313****
>
> 888-334-3145****
>
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>
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From thomas at ravinggenius.com  Sun Oct  2 21:14:44 2011
From: thomas at ravinggenius.com (Thomas Ingram)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:14:44 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Ruby opportunities
In-Reply-To: <CAG18nusuhew3Cx4HVPYzGvYaBsarhjygC8sYWQgT9YCQcWZi9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <015301cc7f84$0e981400$2bc83c00$@hirenetworks.com>
	<CAG18nusuhew3Cx4HVPYzGvYaBsarhjygC8sYWQgT9YCQcWZi9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANU7WMF3AuGMiw06fODXweK2vOu75g+qSr0DNiZSbLDSOewCGg@mail.gmail.com>

I am also interested in Raleigh postings. Any information would be welcome.

On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 20:27, Jonathon Brenner <jon.list+rb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm interested in the Raleigh postings. Can you please send me more information?
> Jonathon
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Kendra Andrews <kandrews at hirenetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have several Ruby openings for direct hire opportunities with clients. Looking for people in Raleigh, Charlotte or Gaithersburg, MD, or at least open to moving to those areas. MD client will sponsor, the others will not.? Jobs are all different so reach out to me if you?d like some details.

--
Thomas Ingram ><>

From adrian at x-omega.com  Tue Oct  4 13:57:24 2011
From: adrian at x-omega.com (Adrian Dunston)
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 13:57:24 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] SAS Job Number Change
Message-ID: <CABEkxs-2Wcr+XW+sZVWof8S-gmXJTnNApS5wqRNiEWhGOCT8aQ@mail.gmail.com>

Quick update: The job number for the SAS job I posted has changed to
11002876. Please apply and email me so I can help fast-track your resume.

http://www.sas.com/jobs/USjobs/search.html Job Number: 11002876

Thanks,
Adrian

-------------- ORIGINAL MESSAGE -----------------

I work at SAS Institute, Inc. One of my teammates just transferred out of
our group. (His former group needed his skills, so he decided to pitch in
there.) We're now looking for a Rails developer. If you are a talented
developer with impressive Ruby on Rails experience, please go to the above
link, search on the job number, apply, and email me.

I'm not an HR representative, and I'm not speaking on behalf of the company.
I'm just a guy who wants to work with great people. My experience with the
members of this list is very positive, so if I can help get your resume in
front of folks at SAS, I'll do it.

This is a great company. SAS is Fortune Magazine's best place to work in the
US
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/bestcompanies/2011/snapshots/1.html.
It's a tech company owned and led by a tech guy. Great benefits. 35 hour
work week. One office per developer; no cubes. And the corporation is not a
tyrant about side-projects. I have a startup idea that I work on at home.
Just to be safe, I ran it by legal. They sent me a letter saying that as
long as I didn't bring my project into the office, SAS wouldn't try to
assert ownership, etc. I know many there are a lot of entrepreneurial folks
on this list. My experience is SAS not getting huffy about entrepreneurial
endeavors. (My experiences at IBM were somewhat different.)

The manager is very good. I've worked at SAS for five years under this guy.
Prior to that, I've worked for dot coms and tiny consulting companies. I've
had good bosses, and a not-very-good boss. This guy's fantastic. He's
forward-thinking. He listens. He cares about how much gets accomplished but
isn't focused on time-sheets and chair-warming. I invented the project I'm
working on, got his support, decided to use Ruby on Rails, and that was it.
As long as I'm contributing to the team and keeping him informed, I have a
ton of autonomy and always feel like my boss is behind me.

The work is fun. Our team writes the deployment tools. The Rails project
gathers product data from around the company for use in our deployment
tools. The job posting makes the job seem more Java-heavy than I think it
will be. I spend most of my time designing and writing features for the
Rails app. We use the Agile Scrum methodology. I can't go into detail, but
it's fun and exciting work with talented people.

So if you're interested, please apply and send me an email. I'll pass your
name to my manager, so he's sure to look at your resume.

Thanks,
Adrian Dunston
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From ken.auer at rolemodelsoftware.com  Thu Oct  6 01:40:25 2011
From: ken.auer at rolemodelsoftware.com (Ken Auer)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 01:40:25 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Rails and iOS development... developer needed.
Message-ID: <CACPaVy_VQP8+jeF2yV2hNLzcYwcaTxQ3ayQHYMP1zPSy_p+Ynw@mail.gmail.com>

I'm looking to hire someone who already has some iOS development under their
belt and also is at least familiar with Rails.

I've got a lot of clients lining up to do Mobile apps, and RoleModel
Software is ready to expand in a variety of ways, and I'm really looking for
someone to add to our Core Team to build the iOS center of our practice
around.

RoleModel Software is...

   - A premiere Software Craftsmanship shop based in Holly Springs with an
   emphasis on serving customers over ?mutual admiration society? (but we do
   admire one another) and believes:
      - A craftsman is going to invest in his tools
      - Someone who wants to be part of a team invests in the team
      - And what the team/business is doing
   - These values are reflected by its Core Team

RoleModel Software's Core Team is...

   - Focused on Software Craftsmanship in the context of making RoleModel
   more effective, profitable, and forward-looking
      - Continuously striving to improve craft
      - Continuously striving to serve client
      - Continuously striving to meet commitments to each other
      - ... in context of ?a healthy Christ-honoring life?

RoleModel Software's Core Team shares...

   - Responsibility (more important than personal preferences, but we honor
   personal preferences)
   - Risk/Reward (short-term and long-term compensation and potential
   compensation, but we are happy to negotiate both the risk and reward)
   - Commitment (doing what we mutually say we will do, but not pushing
   someone to commit to what they cannot deliver)

How does one get on RoleModel's Core Team?


   - Desire to be on the core team and
   - Convince me you will be a good core team member
   - Spends a day and more with us to determine if the above two are both in
   place
   - Negotiate a deal that works for both parties
      - With potential quarterly profit sharing
      - Auto renewable each quarter, unless we agree to a new deal...

If you think you might be interested, and that I might be interested in you,
drop me a note and let's take it forward from there.

Ken

-- 
Ken Auer
Software Craftsman
RoleModel Software              919-557-7550 (v)
6720 RoleModel Way            626-544-2015 (f)
Holly Springs, NC 27540       919-622-8315 (m)

    "Christianity is not a plug-in, it's an operating system" (see Mark
12:28-31)
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From luke at ehresman.org  Thu Oct  6 09:45:34 2011
From: luke at ehresman.org (Luke Ehresman)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 09:45:34 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] New MongoDB meetup
Message-ID: <CAFdcs4maEkua_mcJTysB65Ov088PNuOfbPvHz+NAdApLv8veKA@mail.gmail.com>

I've just launched the Mongo Raleigh meetup for those interested in the open
source, non-relational, "nosql" database MongoDB.  Our first meeting will be
Tuesday, Nov 8.

http://www.meetup.com/MongoRaleigh/

>From discussions I've had with many of you, I think there may be cross
interest with this group, hence the announcement.

Cheers,
Luke

-- 
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<luke at ehresman.org>CopperEgg - http://copperegg.com
Tebros Systems - http://tebros.com
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From javery at infozerk.com  Wed Oct 12 17:51:56 2011
From: javery at infozerk.com (James Avery)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:51:56 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Triangle AWS Meetup
Message-ID: <CA+r1DwoddLD-9a137eD4uyV1AxTQLoEorhZX=gyRXZ3z+ExLkQ@mail.gmail.com>

There is a new meetup in the Triangle focused on Amazon Web Services - it's
been meeting for a couple months and the previous talks have been great. The
focus is on startups and companies sharing how they use AWS,
what challenges they have had, and a decent amount of open discussion about
architecture choices, issues, etc.

The next meeting is tomorrow night and we meet in Durham (just north of
downtown, I swear it's mostly safe). ;)

http://taws.me/2011/09/meeting-3-trying-for-best-practices.html

Also - free pizza and beer!

-James

-- 
James Avery
Adzerk - http://adzerk.com
TekPub - http://tekpub.com
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From luke at ehresman.org  Thu Oct 13 10:00:05 2011
From: luke at ehresman.org (Luke Ehresman)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:00:05 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] simulating api requests
Message-ID: <CAFdcs4kNj6dmsZ1LsLB+BzVwMOzsGakP8dAO4DYd=yewf6tVKw@mail.gmail.com>

My app is journaling requests made to our Rails-based REST API, and I'm
writing a script to replay these later for testing and recovery purposes.

In a command line script (that has the Rails environment loaded), how can I
simulate controller actions like I do in test scripts with get/post/put
methods?

Thanks,
Luke

-- 
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<luke at ehresman.org>CopperEgg - http://copperegg.com
Tebros Systems - http://tebros.com
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From luke at ehresman.org  Thu Oct 13 11:12:50 2011
From: luke at ehresman.org (Luke Ehresman)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:12:50 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] simulating api requests
In-Reply-To: <CAFdcs4kNj6dmsZ1LsLB+BzVwMOzsGakP8dAO4DYd=yewf6tVKw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFdcs4kNj6dmsZ1LsLB+BzVwMOzsGakP8dAO4DYd=yewf6tVKw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFdcs4nfZVMSG_K4Yb1CYH7P+95jOiiC6Dqw60C7RseQezf9aA@mail.gmail.com>

I've decided to actually replay against the api itself using the rest-client
gem.


On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Luke Ehresman <luke at ehresman.org> wrote:

> My app is journaling requests made to our Rails-based REST API, and I'm
> writing a script to replay these later for testing and recovery purposes.
>
> In a command line script (that has the Rails environment loaded), how can I
> simulate controller actions like I do in test scripts with get/post/put
> methods?
>
> Thanks,
> Luke
>
> --
> Luke Ehresman, luke at ehresman.org
> <luke at ehresman.org>CopperEgg - http://copperegg.com
> Tebros Systems - http://tebros.com
>
>


-- 
Luke Ehresman, luke at ehresman.org
<luke at ehresman.org>CopperEgg - http://copperegg.com
Tebros Systems - http://tebros.com
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From tj at stank.us  Thu Oct 13 11:24:32 2011
From: tj at stank.us (TJ Stankus)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:24:32 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] simulating api requests
In-Reply-To: <CAFdcs4kNj6dmsZ1LsLB+BzVwMOzsGakP8dAO4DYd=yewf6tVKw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFdcs4kNj6dmsZ1LsLB+BzVwMOzsGakP8dAO4DYd=yewf6tVKw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGNCiPXW4Mh9dT2Dc0UM_7zeWBpggbrKphzPkFOAb7LZrf8Xmg@mail.gmail.com>

It might be easiest to shell out to curl from your ruby script, and
use curl to issue get/post. There may be a better way; this is just
the first thing that popped into my head.

HTH,

-TJ

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Luke Ehresman <luke at ehresman.org> wrote:
> My app is journaling requests made to our Rails-based REST API, and I'm
> writing a script to replay these later for testing and recovery purposes.
> In a command line script (that has the Rails environment loaded), how can I
> simulate controller actions like I do in test scripts with get/post/put
> methods?
> Thanks,
> Luke
>
> --
> Luke Ehresman,?luke at ehresman.org
> CopperEgg - http://copperegg.com
> Tebros Systems - http://tebros.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From donald.ball at gmail.com  Thu Oct 13 11:31:04 2011
From: donald.ball at gmail.com (Donald Ball)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:31:04 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] simulating api requests
In-Reply-To: <CAFdcs4kNj6dmsZ1LsLB+BzVwMOzsGakP8dAO4DYd=yewf6tVKw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFdcs4kNj6dmsZ1LsLB+BzVwMOzsGakP8dAO4DYd=yewf6tVKw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOMj0eaZK_tCfwewow2Zyj351e6xDk7SuYsPd7tcAypu8gnW5Q@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not sure there's an easy way of doing that. Mightn't it be more
elegant to simply replay the requests over HTTP using mechanize or
some other scriptable HTTP agent?

-- donald

From duff at omelia.org  Thu Oct 13 12:05:20 2011
From: duff at omelia.org (Duff OMelia)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:05:20 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] simulating api requests
In-Reply-To: <CAFdcs4kNj6dmsZ1LsLB+BzVwMOzsGakP8dAO4DYd=yewf6tVKw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFdcs4kNj6dmsZ1LsLB+BzVwMOzsGakP8dAO4DYd=yewf6tVKw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANU=b9D5S94WWY-tgvAjLxgFYKiFKnz0RoBxNErFrjvbzaePVA@mail.gmail.com>

> My app is journaling requests made to our Rails-based REST API, and I'm
> writing a script to replay these later for testing and recovery purposes.

Thought I might mention this, in case it helps:
https://github.com/myronmarston/vcr


------------------------------------------------------------
Duff OMelia

From mshiltonj at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 08:58:38 2011
From: mshiltonj at gmail.com (Steven Hilton)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:58:38 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Time vs ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone
Message-ID: <CA+r07isCTik-sVrFUsTZkf3yjHYSCd3PcckG-qu4To6XXmNJRA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I'm seeing unexpected timestamp formatting and don't know if it's a
bug or intentional behavior. Has anyone else seen this?

I have an app where the system is set to Eastern Time Zone.   The app
is configured like so:

   [...]
   config.time_zone = "Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
   config.active_record.default_timezone = "Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
   [...]

Here is what I expect, using Time

   rails console
   Loading development environment (Rails 3.1.0)
   irb(main):004:0> t = Time.local(2008, 06, 14)
   => 2008-06-14 00:00:00 -0400
   irb(main):005:0> t.to_formatted_s(:db)
   => "2008-06-14 00:00:00"

This looks good. However, when I do the same thing with
ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone, I get this:

   t = Time.zone.local(2008, 06, 14)
   => Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:00:00 EDT -04:00
   irb(main):009:0> t.class
   => ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone
   irb(main):010:0> t.to_formatted_s(:db)
   => "2008-06-14 04:00:00"           ## It's suddenly 4 am.


Even though the time is in Eastern time, and Rails is configured to
use Eastern, the returned formatted string is ... unexpected.

Why is this? in active_support/time_with_zone.rb, the time is
unilaterally converted to utc before stringification if the format is
:db

166     def to_s(format = :default)
167       if format == :db
168         utc.to_s(format)  ## <-- RIGHT HERE
169       elsif formatter = ::Time::DATE_FORMATS[format]
170         formatter.respond_to?(:call) ? formatter.call(self).to_s :
strftime(formatter)
171       else
172         "#{time.strftime("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S")}
#{formatted_offset(false, 'UTC')}" # mimicking Ruby 1.9 Time#to_s
format
173       end
174     end
175     alias_method :to_formatted_s, :to_s

Other formats work okay:

   irb(main):002:0> t.to_formatted_s :short
   => "14 Jun 00:00"

Does this make any sense?

Thanks!

- Steven

From harry.park at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 09:03:16 2011
From: harry.park at gmail.com (Harry Park)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:03:16 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Time vs ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone
In-Reply-To: <CA+r07isCTik-sVrFUsTZkf3yjHYSCd3PcckG-qu4To6XXmNJRA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+r07isCTik-sVrFUsTZkf3yjHYSCd3PcckG-qu4To6XXmNJRA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFQyo-mQMGUd1Ty3b8z_2k5ywu1Ky4uZPAiqEVrEjhs2hV7xEA@mail.gmail.com>

Seems a pretty standard way to store time in the DB. Store it as UTC in the
DB otherwise you have to keep track of time zones and weird stuff like
daylight savings and what not.

When you output that data to the user, you can format it to their needs,
such as time zone, daylight savings, etc.

HTH

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Steven Hilton <mshiltonj at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I'm seeing unexpected timestamp formatting and don't know if it's a
> bug or intentional behavior. Has anyone else seen this?
>
> I have an app where the system is set to Eastern Time Zone.   The app
> is configured like so:
>
>   [...]
>   config.time_zone = "Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
>   config.active_record.default_timezone = "Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
>   [...]
>
> Here is what I expect, using Time
>
>   rails console
>   Loading development environment (Rails 3.1.0)
>   irb(main):004:0> t = Time.local(2008, 06, 14)
>   => 2008-06-14 00:00:00 -0400
>   irb(main):005:0> t.to_formatted_s(:db)
>   => "2008-06-14 00:00:00"
>
> This looks good. However, when I do the same thing with
> ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone, I get this:
>
>   t = Time.zone.local(2008, 06, 14)
>   => Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:00:00 EDT -04:00
>   irb(main):009:0> t.class
>   => ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone
>   irb(main):010:0> t.to_formatted_s(:db)
>   => "2008-06-14 04:00:00"           ## It's suddenly 4 am.
>
>
> Even though the time is in Eastern time, and Rails is configured to
> use Eastern, the returned formatted string is ... unexpected.
>
> Why is this? in active_support/time_with_zone.rb, the time is
> unilaterally converted to utc before stringification if the format is
> :db
>
> 166     def to_s(format = :default)
> 167       if format == :db
> 168         utc.to_s(format)  ## <-- RIGHT HERE
> 169       elsif formatter = ::Time::DATE_FORMATS[format]
> 170         formatter.respond_to?(:call) ? formatter.call(self).to_s :
> strftime(formatter)
> 171       else
> 172         "#{time.strftime("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S")}
> #{formatted_offset(false, 'UTC')}" # mimicking Ruby 1.9 Time#to_s
> format
> 173       end
> 174     end
> 175     alias_method :to_formatted_s, :to_s
>
> Other formats work okay:
>
>   irb(main):002:0> t.to_formatted_s :short
>   => "14 Jun 00:00"
>
> Does this make any sense?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Steven
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
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From mshiltonj at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 10:08:53 2011
From: mshiltonj at gmail.com (Steven Hilton)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 10:08:53 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Time vs ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone
In-Reply-To: <CAFQyo-mQMGUd1Ty3b8z_2k5ywu1Ky4uZPAiqEVrEjhs2hV7xEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+r07isCTik-sVrFUsTZkf3yjHYSCd3PcckG-qu4To6XXmNJRA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFQyo-mQMGUd1Ty3b8z_2k5ywu1Ky4uZPAiqEVrEjhs2hV7xEA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Harry Park <harry.park at gmail.com> wrote:
> Seems a pretty standard way to store time in the DB. Store it as UTC in the
> DB otherwise you have to keep track of time zones and weird stuff like
> daylight savings and what not.

Yes, this is very true. It is often the highlight of my day when I
deal with such issues. /s

But that's not really the issue here. The code samples I used here
don't do any database interaction. It's just formatting an EDT date
object, and is behaving differently than the Time object.

Regarding the db, though... use of Time#to_formatted_s :db seems to
assume/require that the db time stamps be in UTC, despite rails
configuration options allowing us declare otherwise.


> When you output that data to the user, you can format it to their needs,
> such as time zone, daylight savings, etc.
> HTH
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Steven Hilton <mshiltonj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm seeing unexpected timestamp formatting and don't know if it's a
>> bug or intentional behavior. Has anyone else seen this?
>>
>> I have an app where the system is set to Eastern Time Zone. ? The app
>> is configured like so:
>>
>> ? [...]
>> ? config.time_zone = "Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
>> ? config.active_record.default_timezone = "Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
>> ? [...]
>>
>> Here is what I expect, using Time
>>
>> ? rails console
>> ? Loading development environment (Rails 3.1.0)
>> ? irb(main):004:0> t = Time.local(2008, 06, 14)
>> ? => 2008-06-14 00:00:00 -0400
>> ? irb(main):005:0> t.to_formatted_s(:db)
>> ? => "2008-06-14 00:00:00"
>>
>> This looks good. However, when I do the same thing with
>> ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone, I get this:
>>
>> ? t = Time.zone.local(2008, 06, 14)
>> ? => Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:00:00 EDT -04:00
>> ? irb(main):009:0> t.class
>> ? => ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone
>> ? irb(main):010:0> t.to_formatted_s(:db)
>> ? => "2008-06-14 04:00:00" ? ? ? ? ? ## It's suddenly 4 am.
>>
>>
>> Even though the time is in Eastern time, and Rails is configured to
>> use Eastern, the returned formatted string is ... unexpected.
>>
>> Why is this? in active_support/time_with_zone.rb, the time is
>> unilaterally converted to utc before stringification if the format is
>> :db
>>
>> 166 ? ? def to_s(format = :default)
>> 167 ? ? ? if format == :db
>> 168 ? ? ? ? utc.to_s(format) ?## <-- RIGHT HERE
>> 169 ? ? ? elsif formatter = ::Time::DATE_FORMATS[format]
>> 170 ? ? ? ? formatter.respond_to?(:call) ? formatter.call(self).to_s :
>> strftime(formatter)
>> 171 ? ? ? else
>> 172 ? ? ? ? "#{time.strftime("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S")}
>> #{formatted_offset(false, 'UTC')}" # mimicking Ruby 1.9 Time#to_s
>> format
>> 173 ? ? ? end
>> 174 ? ? end
>> 175 ? ? alias_method :to_formatted_s, :to_s
>>
>> Other formats work okay:
>>
>> ? irb(main):002:0> t.to_formatted_s :short
>> ? => "14 Jun 00:00"
>>
>> Does this make any sense?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> - Steven
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From steve at iannopollo.com  Tue Oct 18 10:37:48 2011
From: steve at iannopollo.com (Steve Iannopollo)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 10:37:48 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Time vs ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone
In-Reply-To: <CA+r07isCTik-sVrFUsTZkf3yjHYSCd3PcckG-qu4To6XXmNJRA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+r07isCTik-sVrFUsTZkf3yjHYSCd3PcckG-qu4To6XXmNJRA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7B0BF508-595B-4C23-9C39-4AB3CB5536F3@iannopollo.com>

I don't think this is the fault of the TimeWithZone object:

pry(main)> Time.zone = 'Eastern Time (US & Canada)'
=> "Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
pry(main)> t = Time.zone.local(2008, 06, 14)
=> Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:00:00 EDT -04:00
pry(main)> t.to_formatted_s(:db)
=> "2008-06-14 04:00:00"
pry(main)> t.strftime "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"
=> "2008-06-14 00:00:00"

It looks like you need to find out what the :db format is doing to the time object. I would imagine it's converting the time to UTC before calling strftime on it, something like

t.utc.strftime "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"

-Steve

On Oct 18, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Steven Hilton wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I'm seeing unexpected timestamp formatting and don't know if it's a
> bug or intentional behavior. Has anyone else seen this?
> 
> I have an app where the system is set to Eastern Time Zone.   The app
> is configured like so:
> 
>   [...]
>   config.time_zone = "Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
>   config.active_record.default_timezone = "Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
>   [...]
> 
> Here is what I expect, using Time
> 
>   rails console
>   Loading development environment (Rails 3.1.0)
>   irb(main):004:0> t = Time.local(2008, 06, 14)
>   => 2008-06-14 00:00:00 -0400
>   irb(main):005:0> t.to_formatted_s(:db)
>   => "2008-06-14 00:00:00"
> 
> This looks good. However, when I do the same thing with
> ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone, I get this:
> 
>   t = Time.zone.local(2008, 06, 14)
>   => Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:00:00 EDT -04:00
>   irb(main):009:0> t.class
>   => ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone
>   irb(main):010:0> t.to_formatted_s(:db)
>   => "2008-06-14 04:00:00"           ## It's suddenly 4 am.
> 
> 
> Even though the time is in Eastern time, and Rails is configured to
> use Eastern, the returned formatted string is ... unexpected.
> 
> Why is this? in active_support/time_with_zone.rb, the time is
> unilaterally converted to utc before stringification if the format is
> :db
> 
> 166     def to_s(format = :default)
> 167       if format == :db
> 168         utc.to_s(format)  ## <-- RIGHT HERE
> 169       elsif formatter = ::Time::DATE_FORMATS[format]
> 170         formatter.respond_to?(:call) ? formatter.call(self).to_s :
> strftime(formatter)
> 171       else
> 172         "#{time.strftime("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S")}
> #{formatted_offset(false, 'UTC')}" # mimicking Ruby 1.9 Time#to_s
> format
> 173       end
> 174     end
> 175     alias_method :to_formatted_s, :to_s
> 
> Other formats work okay:
> 
>   irb(main):002:0> t.to_formatted_s :short
>   => "14 Jun 00:00"
> 
> Does this make any sense?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> - Steven
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From mshiltonj at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 11:38:53 2011
From: mshiltonj at gmail.com (Steven Hilton)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:38:53 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Time vs ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone
In-Reply-To: <7B0BF508-595B-4C23-9C39-4AB3CB5536F3@iannopollo.com>
References: <CA+r07isCTik-sVrFUsTZkf3yjHYSCd3PcckG-qu4To6XXmNJRA@mail.gmail.com>
	<7B0BF508-595B-4C23-9C39-4AB3CB5536F3@iannopollo.com>
Message-ID: <CA+r07ivLUCMk+XLuFKU6qmp3EYG1Vm1O95Q9jTZyYmU=5Nzu6g@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, that is what it is doing. I know the what and the where. As I
posted below, it's on line 168 of active_support/time_with_zone.rb.
And it doesn't seem right.

Here's another example:

   Time.zone = 'Eastern Time (US & Canada)'

   t = Time.parse('2008-06-14 10:00:00 -0400')

   puts t.to_formatted_s :db

   zones = [
     'UTC',
     'Pacific Time (US & Canada)',
     'Eastern Time (US & Canada)',
     'Amsterdam',
     'Moscow',
     'Sydney'
   ]

   zones.each do |z|
     puts "Time zone: #{z}"
     Time.zone = z
     puts " to_formatted_s(:short) : #{t.in_time_zone.to_formatted_s :short}"
     puts " to_formatted_s(:db) : #{t.in_time_zone.to_formatted_s :db}"
   end

This is my output:

rails runner test.rb

   2008-06-14 10:00:00
   Time zone: UTC
      to_formatted_s(:short) : 14 Jun 14:00
      to_formatted_s(:db) : 2008-06-14 14:00:00
   Time zone: Pacific Time (US & Canada)
      to_formatted_s(:short) : 14 Jun 07:00
      to_formatted_s(:db) : 2008-06-14 14:00:00
   Time zone: Eastern Time (US & Canada)
      to_formatted_s(:short) : 14 Jun 10:00
      to_formatted_s(:db) : 2008-06-14 14:00:00
   Time zone: Amsterdam
      to_formatted_s(:short) : 14 Jun 16:00
      to_formatted_s(:db) : 2008-06-14 14:00:00
   Time zone: Moscow
      to_formatted_s(:short) : 14 Jun 18:00
      to_formatted_s(:db) : 2008-06-14 14:00:00
   Time zone: Sydney
      to_formatted_s(:short) : 15 Jun 00:00
      to_formatted_s(:db) : 2008-06-14 14:00:00

And I'm afraid some time objects might be being run through a call to
to_formatted_s(:db) somewhere in the rails internals becuase I'm still
getting inconsistent behavior elsewhere it the application. I'm still
investigating, but there's no question that my timestamps are getting
shifted and/or reparsed somewhere and the epoch time is getting moved.


On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Steve Iannopollo <steve at iannopollo.com> wrote:
> I don't think this is the fault of the TimeWithZone object:
>
> pry(main)> Time.zone = 'Eastern Time (US & Canada)'
> => "Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
> pry(main)> t = Time.zone.local(2008, 06, 14)
> => Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:00:00 EDT -04:00
> pry(main)> t.to_formatted_s(:db)
> => "2008-06-14 04:00:00"
> pry(main)> t.strftime "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"
> => "2008-06-14 00:00:00"
>
> It looks like you need to find out what the :db format is doing to the time object. I would imagine it's converting the time to UTC before calling strftime on it, something like
>
> t.utc.strftime "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"



> -Steve
>
> On Oct 18, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Steven Hilton wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm seeing unexpected timestamp formatting and don't know if it's a
>> bug or intentional behavior. Has anyone else seen this?
>>
>> I have an app where the system is set to Eastern Time Zone. ? The app
>> is configured like so:
>>
>> ? [...]
>> ? config.time_zone = "Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
>> ? config.active_record.default_timezone = "Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
>> ? [...]
>>
>> Here is what I expect, using Time
>>
>> ? rails console
>> ? Loading development environment (Rails 3.1.0)
>> ? irb(main):004:0> t = Time.local(2008, 06, 14)
>> ? => 2008-06-14 00:00:00 -0400
>> ? irb(main):005:0> t.to_formatted_s(:db)
>> ? => "2008-06-14 00:00:00"
>>
>> This looks good. However, when I do the same thing with
>> ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone, I get this:
>>
>> ? t = Time.zone.local(2008, 06, 14)
>> ? => Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:00:00 EDT -04:00
>> ? irb(main):009:0> t.class
>> ? => ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone
>> ? irb(main):010:0> t.to_formatted_s(:db)
>> ? => "2008-06-14 04:00:00" ? ? ? ? ? ## It's suddenly 4 am.
>>
>>
>> Even though the time is in Eastern time, and Rails is configured to
>> use Eastern, the returned formatted string is ... unexpected.
>>
>> Why is this? in active_support/time_with_zone.rb, the time is
>> unilaterally converted to utc before stringification if the format is
>> :db
>>
>> 166 ? ? def to_s(format = :default)
>> 167 ? ? ? if format == :db
>> 168 ? ? ? ? utc.to_s(format) ?## <-- RIGHT HERE
>> 169 ? ? ? elsif formatter = ::Time::DATE_FORMATS[format]
>> 170 ? ? ? ? formatter.respond_to?(:call) ? formatter.call(self).to_s :
>> strftime(formatter)
>> 171 ? ? ? else
>> 172 ? ? ? ? "#{time.strftime("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S")}
>> #{formatted_offset(false, 'UTC')}" # mimicking Ruby 1.9 Time#to_s
>> format
>> 173 ? ? ? end
>> 174 ? ? end
>> 175 ? ? alias_method :to_formatted_s, :to_s
>>
>> Other formats work okay:
>>
>> ? irb(main):002:0> t.to_formatted_s :short
>> ? => "14 Jun 00:00"
>>
>> Does this make any sense?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> - Steven
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>

From mshiltonj at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 11:52:36 2011
From: mshiltonj at gmail.com (Steven Hilton)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:52:36 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Time vs ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone
In-Reply-To: <CA+r07ivLUCMk+XLuFKU6qmp3EYG1Vm1O95Q9jTZyYmU=5Nzu6g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+r07isCTik-sVrFUsTZkf3yjHYSCd3PcckG-qu4To6XXmNJRA@mail.gmail.com>
	<7B0BF508-595B-4C23-9C39-4AB3CB5536F3@iannopollo.com>
	<CA+r07ivLUCMk+XLuFKU6qmp3EYG1Vm1O95Q9jTZyYmU=5Nzu6g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+r07is5H=8hC46yMNnt9mVgx0vVfWRv4WxHDVHPbkVhAW0o-A@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Steven Hilton <mshiltonj at gmail.com> wrote:

> And I'm afraid some time objects might be being run through a call to
> to_formatted_s(:db) somewhere in the rails internals becuase I'm still
> getting inconsistent behavior elsewhere it the application. I'm still
> investigating, but there's no question that my timestamps are getting
> shifted and/or reparsed somewhere and the epoch time is getting moved.

I don't see any place in the internals where to_formatted_s is being
called, but there may be somewhere else a time stamp is being
converted to utc and parsed and the epoch getting moved. As I said,
I'm still getting inconsistent behavior..

- Steven

From steve at iannopollo.com  Tue Oct 18 12:09:07 2011
From: steve at iannopollo.com (Steve Iannopollo)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:09:07 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Time vs ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone
In-Reply-To: <CA+r07isCTik-sVrFUsTZkf3yjHYSCd3PcckG-qu4To6XXmNJRA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+r07isCTik-sVrFUsTZkf3yjHYSCd3PcckG-qu4To6XXmNJRA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <94EE4E0C-6547-4788-B323-116C5EB8AD36@iannopollo.com>

Wow, it would help if I read the 2nd half of your email. Looks like I repeated what you already knew :-)

On Oct 18, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Steven Hilton wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I'm seeing unexpected timestamp formatting and don't know if it's a
> bug or intentional behavior. Has anyone else seen this?
> 
> I have an app where the system is set to Eastern Time Zone.   The app
> is configured like so:
> 
>   [...]
>   config.time_zone = "Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
>   config.active_record.default_timezone = "Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
>   [...]
> 
> Here is what I expect, using Time
> 
>   rails console
>   Loading development environment (Rails 3.1.0)
>   irb(main):004:0> t = Time.local(2008, 06, 14)
>   => 2008-06-14 00:00:00 -0400
>   irb(main):005:0> t.to_formatted_s(:db)
>   => "2008-06-14 00:00:00"
> 
> This looks good. However, when I do the same thing with
> ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone, I get this:
> 
>   t = Time.zone.local(2008, 06, 14)
>   => Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:00:00 EDT -04:00
>   irb(main):009:0> t.class
>   => ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone
>   irb(main):010:0> t.to_formatted_s(:db)
>   => "2008-06-14 04:00:00"           ## It's suddenly 4 am.
> 
> 
> Even though the time is in Eastern time, and Rails is configured to
> use Eastern, the returned formatted string is ... unexpected.
> 
> Why is this? in active_support/time_with_zone.rb, the time is
> unilaterally converted to utc before stringification if the format is
> :db
> 
> 166     def to_s(format = :default)
> 167       if format == :db
> 168         utc.to_s(format)  ## <-- RIGHT HERE
> 169       elsif formatter = ::Time::DATE_FORMATS[format]
> 170         formatter.respond_to?(:call) ? formatter.call(self).to_s :
> strftime(formatter)
> 171       else
> 172         "#{time.strftime("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S")}
> #{formatted_offset(false, 'UTC')}" # mimicking Ruby 1.9 Time#to_s
> format
> 173       end
> 174     end
> 175     alias_method :to_formatted_s, :to_s
> 
> Other formats work okay:
> 
>   irb(main):002:0> t.to_formatted_s :short
>   => "14 Jun 00:00"
> 
> Does this make any sense?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> - Steven
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members


From joe at bodkinconsulting.com  Wed Oct 19 09:59:40 2011
From: joe at bodkinconsulting.com (joe Fair)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 09:59:40 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Notes from last night?
Message-ID: <CAM8pSyRqKcKoZcekbmnRRGmOcfZ8XETg5qBfC2H+vWtdoN5Ptw@mail.gmail.com>

Group,

I was bummed to miss the talk last night.  Would anybody care to re-cap
-What employers want
-What developers want

Thanks,
Joe

From cjstingl at gmail.com  Wed Oct 19 10:17:17 2011
From: cjstingl at gmail.com (Christopher Stingl)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:17:17 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Notes from last night?
In-Reply-To: <CAM8pSyRqKcKoZcekbmnRRGmOcfZ8XETg5qBfC2H+vWtdoN5Ptw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM8pSyRqKcKoZcekbmnRRGmOcfZ8XETg5qBfC2H+vWtdoN5Ptw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <15B038CA2A8644A98DED6F693AFD400B@gmail.com>

I would like a re-cap myself

CHRISTOPHER STINGL

RAWR
1319 center street  apex nc 27502
t +1 919 995 1452
e cjstingl at gmail.com

On Wednesday, October 19, 2011 at 9:59 AM, joe Fair wrote:

> Group,
> 
> I was bummed to miss the talk last night. Would anybody care to re-cap
> -What employers want
> -What developers want
> 
> Thanks,
> Joe
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org (mailto:raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org)
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members

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From eric at cranehouse.net  Wed Oct 19 11:35:02 2011
From: eric at cranehouse.net (Eric Crane)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:35:02 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Notes from last night?
In-Reply-To: <CAM8pSyRqKcKoZcekbmnRRGmOcfZ8XETg5qBfC2H+vWtdoN5Ptw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM8pSyRqKcKoZcekbmnRRGmOcfZ8XETg5qBfC2H+vWtdoN5Ptw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3FD603C8-9FF2-49A8-A924-59188C277575@cranehouse.net>

I'll take a stab at adding a few notes.

There was a lot of really good discussion.  On some points people seemed to be in agreement, and on others there was a diversity of opinion.  I apologize in advance if I mis-represent any particular opinion.  If I do so it is entirely unintentional.

There seemed to be some universal agreement that the job market right now favors Ruby Developers looking for work and that finding Ruby talent is hard.

I think all those hiring look at a person as either a good developer or not, regardless of languages.  Some would only hire someone with specific Ruby experience while others would also recruit PHP/Phython/Java/etc talent as well.

Some skills that seemed important were initiative, continual learning, testing, process, and other such ancillary skills.

There seemed to be some bias against a developer who does not have contributions on github.  Some thought this a stronger point than others.

Most felt that networking and word of mouth were much better for hiring than other means.  Scorn and derision were heaped on the mention of job boards.  There also seemed to be varying views on using recruiters with some people never using them and others using them some.

There was some discussion about hiring recent grads and how many comp sci grads are ill prepared for the real world.  

A few folks talked about about being stuck in Java (or other) jobs and why they were not switching yet.  But I don't recall a lot of discussion about what they were looking for in a Ruby job.

That's some stuff off the top of my head.  Can anyone else add to it?

On Oct 19, 2011, at 9:59 AM, joe Fair wrote:

> Group,
> 
> I was bummed to miss the talk last night.  Would anybody care to re-cap
> -What employers want
> -What developers want
> 
> Thanks,
> Joe
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> 

--
Eric Crane
www.cranehouse.net
eric at cranehouse.net




From ken.auer at rolemodelsoftware.com  Wed Oct 19 19:47:21 2011
From: ken.auer at rolemodelsoftware.com (Ken Auer)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 19:47:21 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] CocoaConf coming to Raleigh 12/1-3
Message-ID: <CACPaVy8ySjQebrZ2LMHorcSFZpZO4nSnXbuXa0R=2EgSq-0=tg@mail.gmail.com>

Hey, I know this is a Ruby mailing list, but also know that a lot of Ruby
folks are also interested in mobile stuff and use a Mac.

I attended CocoaConf in Columbus this summer and was so impressed with it
that I decided to sponsor it to come to Raleigh.  [Full disclosure, I don't
get any kickbacks for more people signing up, but you will see our company's
logo].  The lineup of speakers they have are top notch and it is an intimate
setting where you actually get to interact with them.

You may not get a chance to interact with this caliber of talent in the
Cocoa world in Raleigh anytime soon.  Don't miss it.

http://cocoaconf.com... early bird pricing ends October 31.

Ken

-- 
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From jareds.lists at gmail.com  Fri Oct 21 11:16:24 2011
From: jareds.lists at gmail.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:16:24 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Free Indie Conf Ticket
Message-ID: <CA+JXGXVKbgq6Vn+8Pm_o_-r6E08w9L64B8B2JgMxnrD6S3aLqg@mail.gmail.com>

I know this isn't a Ruby topic, but we've got so many independent Rubyist on
the list, I thought this might be of interest.

I've got a free IndieConf ticket to give away. Tell me what your favorite
session might be and score it http://indieconf.com/sessions/

It's a great local conference with topics ranging from finance to public
speaking and more.

cc http://twitter.com/#!/jaredrichardson/status/127378427480260608

You can reply to me personally or on twitter.

Jared
http://AgileArtisans.com <http://agileartisans.com/>
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From harry.park at gmail.com  Sat Oct 22 23:55:10 2011
From: harry.park at gmail.com (Harry Park)
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 20:55:10 -0700
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Free Indie Conf Ticket
In-Reply-To: <CA+JXGXVKbgq6Vn+8Pm_o_-r6E08w9L64B8B2JgMxnrD6S3aLqg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+JXGXVKbgq6Vn+8Pm_o_-r6E08w9L64B8B2JgMxnrD6S3aLqg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5F850BA1-667A-4BA6-BEF9-6287ECFB1DBB@gmail.com>

Freelance money geek session gets my vote. 

Is this a single context conf? Definitely interested in this conf now.

Sent from my iPhone 4s

On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Jared Richardson <jareds.lists at gmail.com> wrote:

> I know this isn't a Ruby topic, but we've got so many independent Rubyist on the list, I thought this might be of interest. 
> 
> I've got a free IndieConf ticket to give away. Tell me what your favorite session might be and score it http://indieconf.com/sessions/
> 
> It's a great local conference with topics ranging from finance to public speaking and more. 
> 
> cc http://twitter.com/#!/jaredrichardson/status/127378427480260608
> 
> You can reply to me personally or on twitter. 
> 
> Jared
> http://AgileArtisans.com
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From jareds.lists at gmail.com  Sun Oct 23 14:04:42 2011
From: jareds.lists at gmail.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:04:42 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Free Indie Conf Ticket
In-Reply-To: <5F850BA1-667A-4BA6-BEF9-6287ECFB1DBB@gmail.com>
References: <CA+JXGXVKbgq6Vn+8Pm_o_-r6E08w9L64B8B2JgMxnrD6S3aLqg@mail.gmail.com>
	<5F850BA1-667A-4BA6-BEF9-6287ECFB1DBB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+JXGXWtu=Bz06rf9Cs+Dwx9Ro-_qm1DNNBj5rfuszk2VsGa7Q@mail.gmail.com>

Single context?

I'm afraid all the tickets I had have been given away. I do have a discount
code though. jrichardson30  It's good for 30% off, but but I'm not sure how
long it'll be live. It's related to how many people use the code. :)

Jared
http://AgileArtisans.com

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Harry Park <harry.park at gmail.com> wrote:

> Freelance money geek session gets my vote.
>
> Is this a single context conf? Definitely interested in this conf now.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>
> On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Jared Richardson <jareds.lists at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I know this isn't a Ruby topic, but we've got so many independent Rubyist
> on the list, I thought this might be of interest.
>
> I've got a free IndieConf ticket to give away. Tell me what your favorite
> session might be and score it http://indieconf.com/sessions/
>
> It's a great local conference with topics ranging from finance to public
> speaking and more.
>
> cc http://twitter.com/#!/jaredrichardson/status/127378427480260608
>
> You can reply to me personally or on twitter.
>
> Jared
> http://AgileArtisans.com <http://agileartisans.com/>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From harry.park at gmail.com  Sun Oct 23 17:00:04 2011
From: harry.park at gmail.com (Harry Park)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:00:04 -0700
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Free Indie Conf Ticket
In-Reply-To: <CA+JXGXWtu=Bz06rf9Cs+Dwx9Ro-_qm1DNNBj5rfuszk2VsGa7Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+JXGXVKbgq6Vn+8Pm_o_-r6E08w9L64B8B2JgMxnrD6S3aLqg@mail.gmail.com>
	<5F850BA1-667A-4BA6-BEF9-6287ECFB1DBB@gmail.com>
	<CA+JXGXWtu=Bz06rf9Cs+Dwx9Ro-_qm1DNNBj5rfuszk2VsGa7Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F028794-1B44-48E5-A16B-8BCDAFBBC700@gmail.com>

Oops meant single track. Yeah that makes more sense

Sent from my iPhone 4s

On Oct 23, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Jared Richardson <jareds.lists at gmail.com> wrote:

> Single context? 
> 
> I'm afraid all the tickets I had have been given away. I do have a discount code though. jrichardson30  It's good for 30% off, but but I'm not sure how long it'll be live. It's related to how many people use the code. :) 
> 
> Jared
> http://AgileArtisans.com
> 
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Harry Park <harry.park at gmail.com> wrote:
> Freelance money geek session gets my vote. 
> 
> Is this a single context conf? Definitely interested in this conf now.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 4s
> 
> On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Jared Richardson <jareds.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I know this isn't a Ruby topic, but we've got so many independent Rubyist on the list, I thought this might be of interest. 
>> 
>> I've got a free IndieConf ticket to give away. Tell me what your favorite session might be and score it http://indieconf.com/sessions/
>> 
>> It's a great local conference with topics ranging from finance to public speaking and more. 
>> 
>> cc http://twitter.com/#!/jaredrichardson/status/127378427480260608
>> 
>> You can reply to me personally or on twitter. 
>> 
>> Jared
>> http://AgileArtisans.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> 
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
> 
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From jareds.lists at gmail.com  Mon Oct 24 08:42:55 2011
From: jareds.lists at gmail.com (Jared Richardson)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:42:55 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Free Indie Conf Ticket
In-Reply-To: <4F028794-1B44-48E5-A16B-8BCDAFBBC700@gmail.com>
References: <CA+JXGXVKbgq6Vn+8Pm_o_-r6E08w9L64B8B2JgMxnrD6S3aLqg@mail.gmail.com>
	<5F850BA1-667A-4BA6-BEF9-6287ECFB1DBB@gmail.com>
	<CA+JXGXWtu=Bz06rf9Cs+Dwx9Ro-_qm1DNNBj5rfuszk2VsGa7Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F028794-1B44-48E5-A16B-8BCDAFBBC700@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+JXGXWrUsHB84jV6xtU41kf26rNoe3kxm8xUeY7cecwcZFRYw@mail.gmail.com>

Gotcha. It wasn't single track last year. I'm not sure how many concurrent
sessions there were, but I think it was 3 to 5. I was in  my own session and
wasn't able to spend much time browsing before or after last year, but I
know that Matt Bass and I were speaking at the same time. :)

Jared
http://AgileArtisans.com

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Harry Park <harry.park at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oops meant single track. Yeah that makes more sense
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>
> On Oct 23, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Jared Richardson <jareds.lists at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Single context?
>
> I'm afraid all the tickets I had have been given away. I do have a discount
> code though. jrichardson30  It's good for 30% off, but but I'm not sure
> how long it'll be live. It's related to how many people use the code. :)
>
> Jared
> http://AgileArtisans.com
>
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Harry Park <harry.park at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Freelance money geek session gets my vote.
>>
>> Is this a single context conf? Definitely interested in this conf now.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Jared Richardson <jareds.lists at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I know this isn't a Ruby topic, but we've got so many independent Rubyist
>> on the list, I thought this might be of interest.
>>
>> I've got a free IndieConf ticket to give away. Tell me what your favorite
>> session might be and score it http://indieconf.com/sessions/
>>
>> It's a great local conference with topics ranging from finance to public
>> speaking and more.
>>
>> cc http://twitter.com/#!/jaredrichardson/status/127378427480260608
>>
>> You can reply to me personally or on twitter.
>>
>> Jared
>> http://AgileArtisans.com <http://agileartisans.com/>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> raleigh-rb-members mailing list
> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
>
>
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From bryan.kearney at gmail.com  Mon Oct 24 20:16:20 2011
From: bryan.kearney at gmail.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:16:20 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Job Opportunity: Katello Project
Message-ID: <4EA5FFD4.6020704@gmail.com>

We are looking for a full time Rails engineer to work on the Katello 
project [1]. This is a full time position, no Contract to Hire 
available. No firms either.. thanks!

If you are interested, please respond off list.

Thanks!

-- bk

[1] http://www.katello.org/

From bryan.kearney at gmail.com  Mon Oct 24 20:24:20 2011
From: bryan.kearney at gmail.com (Bryan Kearney)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:24:20 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Job Opportunity: Katello Project
In-Reply-To: <4EA5FFD4.6020704@gmail.com>
References: <4EA5FFD4.6020704@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4EA601B4.2080900@gmail.com>

On 10/24/2011 08:16 PM, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> We are looking for a full time Rails engineer to work on the Katello
> project [1]. This is a full time position, no Contract to Hire
> available. No firms either.. thanks!
>
> If you are interested, please respond off list.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- bk
>
> [1] http://www.katello.org/
Sorry.. this is with Red Hat :)

-- bk


From mshiltonj at gmail.com  Tue Oct 25 09:57:28 2011
From: mshiltonj at gmail.com (Steven Hilton)
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:57:28 -0400
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Time vs ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone
In-Reply-To: <94EE4E0C-6547-4788-B323-116C5EB8AD36@iannopollo.com>
References: <CA+r07isCTik-sVrFUsTZkf3yjHYSCd3PcckG-qu4To6XXmNJRA@mail.gmail.com>
	<94EE4E0C-6547-4788-B323-116C5EB8AD36@iannopollo.com>
Message-ID: <CA+r07it2=jm-B6mkSVQdjwTsMnhDD9Jff=Yk=Rcc-L24aW4CSg@mail.gmail.com>

FYI,

I changed my config/application.rb to be

    config.time_zone = "Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
    config.active_record.default_timezone = :local

And I stopped using :db as a parameter to #to_formatted_s() entirely.
The unilateral conversion to UTC before stringification in that case
is undesired.

- Steven


On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Steve Iannopollo <steve at iannopollo.com> wrote:
> Wow, it would help if I read the 2nd half of your email. Looks like I repeated what you already knew :-)
>
> On Oct 18, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Steven Hilton wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm seeing unexpected timestamp formatting and don't know if it's a
>> bug or intentional behavior. Has anyone else seen this?
>>
>> I have an app where the system is set to Eastern Time Zone. ? The app
>> is configured like so:
>>
>> ? [...]
>> ? config.time_zone = "Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
>> ? config.active_record.default_timezone = "Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
>> ? [...]
>>
>> Here is what I expect, using Time
>>
>> ? rails console
>> ? Loading development environment (Rails 3.1.0)
>> ? irb(main):004:0> t = Time.local(2008, 06, 14)
>> ? => 2008-06-14 00:00:00 -0400
>> ? irb(main):005:0> t.to_formatted_s(:db)
>> ? => "2008-06-14 00:00:00"
>>
>> This looks good. However, when I do the same thing with
>> ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone, I get this:
>>
>> ? t = Time.zone.local(2008, 06, 14)
>> ? => Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:00:00 EDT -04:00
>> ? irb(main):009:0> t.class
>> ? => ActiveSupport::TimeWithZone
>> ? irb(main):010:0> t.to_formatted_s(:db)
>> ? => "2008-06-14 04:00:00" ? ? ? ? ? ## It's suddenly 4 am.
>>
>>
>> Even though the time is in Eastern time, and Rails is configured to
>> use Eastern, the returned formatted string is ... unexpected.
>>
>> Why is this? in active_support/time_with_zone.rb, the time is
>> unilaterally converted to utc before stringification if the format is
>> :db
>>
>> 166 ? ? def to_s(format = :default)
>> 167 ? ? ? if format == :db
>> 168 ? ? ? ? utc.to_s(format) ?## <-- RIGHT HERE
>> 169 ? ? ? elsif formatter = ::Time::DATE_FORMATS[format]
>> 170 ? ? ? ? formatter.respond_to?(:call) ? formatter.call(self).to_s :
>> strftime(formatter)
>> 171 ? ? ? else
>> 172 ? ? ? ? "#{time.strftime("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S")}
>> #{formatted_offset(false, 'UTC')}" # mimicking Ruby 1.9 Time#to_s
>> format
>> 173 ? ? ? end
>> 174 ? ? end
>> 175 ? ? alias_method :to_formatted_s, :to_s
>>
>> Other formats work okay:
>>
>> ? irb(main):002:0> t.to_formatted_s :short
>> ? => "14 Jun 00:00"
>>
>> Does this make any sense?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> - Steven
>> _______________________________________________
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>> raleigh-rb-members at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/raleigh-rb-members
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From mriedeman at 6fusion.com  Fri Oct 28 14:33:17 2011
From: mriedeman at 6fusion.com (Mark Riedeman)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:33:17 +0000
Subject: [raleigh.rb] Is Your Kung-Fu Strong?
Message-ID: <B9FBE238F1549A4FB3CDD8F91659EFB416A5CC5C@VIF-EXCHM-P01.6fusion.com>

Can you kick butt in Ruby?  Wanna prove it?

Hi.  I'm Mark Riedeman.  I'm the Director of Software Development at http://www.6fusion.com/ a cloud computing/Infrastructure as a Service company here in Raleigh (Centennial Campus to be exact) and I want to hire some awesome Rubyists (is that the term?  I don't even know...I'm pretty new to Ruby myself.)

Here's why:

I started here in April and hired a local team of very talented (and fun) developers.  They were working on our .NET-based platform for a while (all .NET experts) and were frustrated with how long it took to build our API with all of the .NET tools.  Finally, our lead developer (a pretty inquisitive guy) thought:

"I wonder if this would be easier in Ruby?"

And after spending a weekend trying it out, it turns out it is in fact easier in Ruby.  So, after spending a morning convincing me and the rest of the development team that we would be more productive if we switched to Ruby, we did just that.

[Side note about why this is a great place to work:  I trust my developers because they're awesome.  If you made a compelling case to your company that they should completely change a core technology you're using, would your company switch?  If not, wouldn't it be fun to work at a place that put big technology decisions in the hands of the developers that build the technology and probably know best? (See below for correct answer.)]

So, here we are: building a cloud computing solution in Ruby and growing fast.  So fast that we could really use some developers that can hit the ground running in a Ruby/Rails environment.  The kind of developers that will be able to learn whatever other tools and technologies may come along that can help us to be the best technology team building the best software around.

Interested in joining or know someone who would be?

Let me know.  Email me at MRiedeman at 6fusion.com or call me at 919-706-4778.

Thanks.

Mark Riedeman
Director of Software Development
6fusion.com

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Correct Answer: Yes
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