From iainhaslam at gmail.com  Mon Mar 20 11:28:26 2006
From: iainhaslam at gmail.com (Iain Haslam)
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:28:26 +0000
Subject: Code blocks
Message-ID: <5f7436c0603200828y3d600efag66443f15ac8d743a@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

In November 2005, there was a discussion on this list regarding code
blocks. The suggestion was to use:

```(test)
here it is
```
which becomes:

<pre class="test"><code>
here it is
</code></pre>

However, a textile format for this already exists elsewhere (see [1]),
which I think is more appropriate:

bc.(test) here it is

Note the similarity between bc. and bq. I have implemented this (based
on webgen 3.0.4 code, since the SVN server for recent code seems to be
down). I have also added support for syntax-highlighting, with much
code taken from source2html, although the interface is completely
different. There are still a few bugs in the colouring, but I could
resolve them fairly quickly if there was any interest. For my own
part, this is fantastically useful for including prettied codes on my
site with no additional work besides copy/pasting the code and
defining its language.

A few examples, along with the full amended (and somewhat messy)
source code for those who are interested, are available from
http://www.durham.ac.uk/i.w.haslam/Misc/Notebooks/textile_bc.html

Is there interest in this? Would you like me to work this up into
something suitable for inclusion in a future release? Any other
comments on it?

Regards,
Iain Haslam.

[1] http://blog.thought-mesh.net/mt-static/docs/mtmanual_textile.html#block%20formatting


From etienne.durand at mail.com  Fri Mar 24 01:40:05 2006
From: etienne.durand at mail.com (Jean-Etienne Durand)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:40:05 +0100
Subject: Escaping characters
Message-ID: <44239445.4020505@mail.com>

Hi,

I am writing some help about post formatting. I am using redcloth to 
format the text, and in a FAQ, also formatted with redcloth, I explain 
what to type to what to obtain.

So, how could I escape '*', '#' & Co, to have an output like
<redcloth>
  Type *word* to obtain <strong>word</strong>
</redcloth>

I tried "Type **word** to obtain *word*", but does not work.

Any help?
Jean-Etienne

From assaph at gmail.com  Fri Mar 24 03:53:52 2006
From: assaph at gmail.com (Assaph Mehr)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:53:52 +1100
Subject: Escaping characters
In-Reply-To: <44239445.4020505@mail.com>
References: <44239445.4020505@mail.com>
Message-ID: <3ff47be90603240053w55d6621cld7ba369d3394774e@mail.gmail.com>

> So, how could I escape '*', '#' & Co, to have an output like
> <redcloth>
>   Type *word* to obtain <strong>word</strong>
> </redcloth>

Try:

<notextile>
  Type *word* to obtain <strong>word</strong>
</notextile>


From etienne.durand at mail.com  Fri Mar 24 04:55:09 2006
From: etienne.durand at mail.com (Jean-Etienne Durand)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:55:09 +0100
Subject: Escaping characters
In-Reply-To: <3ff47be90603240053w55d6621cld7ba369d3394774e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <44239445.4020505@mail.com>
	<3ff47be90603240053w55d6621cld7ba369d3394774e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4423C1FD.5020908@mail.com>

Thank you.
I have a second question. How can I include lists in a table?

I did that:

|_. What you type |_. What users see |
| <notextile>#</notextile> A first item
<notextile>#</notextile> A second item
<notextile>#</notextile> A third item |
# A first item
# A second item
# A third item |

But the table is not recognized. If I put all # in one line, of course, 
the list is not recognized :(

Any idea?


Assaph Mehr wrote:
>> So, how could I escape '*', '#' & Co, to have an output like
>> <redcloth>
>>   Type *word* to obtain <strong>word</strong>
>> </redcloth>
> 
> Try:
> 
> <notextile>
>   Type *word* to obtain <strong>word</strong>
> </notextile>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Redcloth-upwards mailing list
> Redcloth-upwards at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/redcloth-upwards
> 

From assaph at gmail.com  Fri Mar 24 05:09:03 2006
From: assaph at gmail.com (Assaph Mehr)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:09:03 +1100
Subject: Escaping characters
In-Reply-To: <4423C1FD.5020908@mail.com>
References: <44239445.4020505@mail.com>
	<3ff47be90603240053w55d6621cld7ba369d3394774e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4423C1FD.5020908@mail.com>
Message-ID: <3ff47be90603240209i4a8477b8n237337f189c6ecdf@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/24/06, Jean-Etienne Durand <etienne.durand at mail.com> wrote:
> Thank you.
> I have a second question. How can I include lists in a table?

Not 100% sure, but I think textile support for tables is rather
limited, especially since each row has to be on a separate line and
lists also rely on line breaks. If you want something like this you
should probably construct the table by hand with HTML tags. I could be
wrong though.

Cheers,
Assaph


From Bil.Kleb at NASA.GOV  Fri Mar 24 06:07:39 2006
From: Bil.Kleb at NASA.GOV (Bil Kleb)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 06:07:39 -0500
Subject: Escaping characters
In-Reply-To: <44239445.4020505@mail.com>
References: <44239445.4020505@mail.com>
Message-ID: <4423D2FB.30906@NASA.gov>

Jean-Etienne Durand wrote:
> 
> So, how could I escape '*', '#' & Co

In a Soks wiki (which uses Redcloth for markup), I would use
'==*word*==' to get '*word*', but I don't know if Soks has extended
Redcloth...

Regards,
-- 
Bil Kleb
http://fun3d.larc.nasa.gov

From assaph at gmail.com  Fri Mar 24 07:54:36 2006
From: assaph at gmail.com (Assaph Mehr)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 23:54:36 +1100
Subject: Escaping characters
In-Reply-To: <4423D2FB.30906@NASA.gov>
References: <44239445.4020505@mail.com> <4423D2FB.30906@NASA.gov>
Message-ID: <3ff47be90603240454i426f2d19l423c65149de8c7e6@mail.gmail.com>

> > So, how could I escape '*', '#' & Co
>
> In a Soks wiki (which uses Redcloth for markup), I would use
> '==*word*==' to get '*word*', but I don't know if Soks has extended
> Redcloth...

Cute, wasn't aware of this. Looking at the RedCloth sources, this is a
redcloth thing. It translates ==...== to <notextile>...</notextile>.
This works beautifully on instiki as well.

Thanks for sharing,
Assaph


From Bil.Kleb at NASA.GOV  Fri Mar 24 08:37:53 2006
From: Bil.Kleb at NASA.GOV (Bil Kleb)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:37:53 -0500
Subject: Escaping characters
In-Reply-To: <3ff47be90603240454i426f2d19l423c65149de8c7e6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <44239445.4020505@mail.com> <4423D2FB.30906@NASA.gov>
	<3ff47be90603240454i426f2d19l423c65149de8c7e6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4423F631.6080706@NASA.gov>

Assaph Mehr wrote:
> 
> Cute, wasn't aware of this. Looking at the RedCloth sources, this is a
> redcloth thing. It translates ==...== to <notextile>...</notextile>.
> This works beautifully on instiki as well.

There seems to be a bug though: when a paragraph follows
this, e.g.,

  =*no textile stuff*==

  New paragraph here.

there is no paragraph break.  It behaves as if the newlines
are not there.

Regards,
-- 
Bil Kleb
http://fun3d.larc.nasa.gov

From assaph at gmail.com  Fri Mar 24 19:52:59 2006
From: assaph at gmail.com (Assaph Mehr)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:52:59 +1100
Subject: Escaping characters
In-Reply-To: <4423F631.6080706@NASA.gov>
References: <44239445.4020505@mail.com> <4423D2FB.30906@NASA.gov>
	<3ff47be90603240454i426f2d19l423c65149de8c7e6@mail.gmail.com>
	<4423F631.6080706@NASA.gov>
Message-ID: <3ff47be90603241652l72e99fafpb32b28ec91703f41@mail.gmail.com>

> > Cute, wasn't aware of this. Looking at the RedCloth sources, this is a
> > redcloth thing. It translates ==...== to <notextile>...</notextile>.
> > This works beautifully on instiki as well.
>
> There seems to be a bug though: when a paragraph follows
> this, e.g.,
>
>   =*no textile stuff*==
>
>   New paragraph here.
>
> there is no paragraph break.  It behaves as if the newlines
> are not there.

It renders fine on my instance. The difference is that in Pimki I
force RedCloth to use :hard_breaks (using version 3.0.4 of redcloth).
Have you tried adding an extra line break between the lines? It
sometimes helps. If not, you could probably add a manual
paragraph-break element, or use the verbose <notextile> tags.

HTH,
Assaph


From Bil.Kleb at nasa.gov  Sat Mar 25 08:18:38 2006
From: Bil.Kleb at nasa.gov (Bil Kleb)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 08:18:38 -0500
Subject: Escaping characters
In-Reply-To: <3ff47be90603241652l72e99fafpb32b28ec91703f41@mail.gmail.com>
References: <44239445.4020505@mail.com>
	<4423D2FB.30906@NASA.gov>	<3ff47be90603240454i426f2d19l423c65149de8c7e6@mail.gmail.com>	<4423F631.6080706@NASA.gov>
	<3ff47be90603241652l72e99fafpb32b28ec91703f41@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4425432E.9040206@NASA.gov>

Assaph Mehr wrote:
>
> It renders fine on my instance. The difference is that in Pimki I
> force RedCloth to use :hard_breaks (using version 3.0.4 of redcloth).

Soks doesn't use :hard_breaks.

> Have you tried adding an extra line break between the lines?

Yes.  And adding trailing and leading spaces all over.

> If not, you could probably add a manual
> paragraph-break element

That's what I resorted to.

Regards,
-- 
Bil, x4364
http://fun3d.larc.nasa.gov


From assaph at gmail.com  Sat Mar 25 17:23:27 2006
From: assaph at gmail.com (Assaph Mehr)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:23:27 +1100
Subject: Escaping characters
In-Reply-To: <4425432E.9040206@NASA.gov>
References: <44239445.4020505@mail.com> <4423D2FB.30906@NASA.gov>
	<3ff47be90603240454i426f2d19l423c65149de8c7e6@mail.gmail.com>
	<4423F631.6080706@NASA.gov>
	<3ff47be90603241652l72e99fafpb32b28ec91703f41@mail.gmail.com>
	<4425432E.9040206@NASA.gov>
Message-ID: <3ff47be90603251423h5d23811bne6e7ba24f68ef4d8@mail.gmail.com>

> > It renders fine on my instance. The difference is that in Pimki I
> > force RedCloth to use :hard_breaks (using version 3.0.4 of redcloth).
>
> Soks doesn't use :hard_breaks.

You can override this. Quote:

  Setting :redcloth_hard_breaks => true in start.rb causes Redcloth to revert
  to the 2.x approach of turning every newline to a <br />. This is
off by default
  (i.e. the default works like Redcloth 3.x)

HTH,
Assaph