[Rubyforchange-talk] TROSA

[Tony Devlin]

This does sound like a great candidate.  I am in...

Let's get some more information and details.



On 9/14/07, Chad Fowler <chad at chadfowler.com> wrote:
>
> "me too!"
>
> I think this would be a great first group to work with, and if Clinton
> wants to volunteer to take the lead it sounds like we have a
> near-perfect situation to get started.  Justin, would you like to make
> an introduction?
>
> Thanks,
> Chad
>
> On 9/14/07, Giles Bowkett <gilesb at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Clinton and Justin - can you get us more detail on their reqs.?
> >
> > On 9/13/07, Evan David Light <evan at tiggerpalace.com> wrote:
> > > Well said.  Sounds good to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sep 13, 2007, at 5:25 PM, Bruce Tate wrote:
> > > If they have strong requirements, a motivation to work with us, and a
> strong
> > > need, it sounds like a good customer.
> > >
> > > -bt
> > >
> > > On Sep 13, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Justin Gehtland wrote:
> > > Trying to reply to this (seeing if it makes it through, now):
> > >
> > > That organization is still searching for the right people to build the
> app,
> > > and I think would relish having the help of this kind of group.
> > >
> > > Justin
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sep 13, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Chad Fowler wrote:
> > >
> > > Here's the email Justin Gehtland has been trying to send.  Getting
> > > stopped somehow:
> > >
> > > Recently, we were approached by an organization in North Carolina
> > > called TROSA [1].  They are a residential rehabilitation organization
> > > for substance abusers who have several businesses that the "clients"
> > > work in during their rehab in order to gain work experience and be
> > > part of a structured organization.  For example, we used them to move
> > > our furniture when we moved, and we buy our Christmas trees from them
> > > every year.
> > >
> > > The scenario is this:
> > >
> > > They have essentially "enterprise-level" needs.  They need an
> > > application to track their "clients", including things like medicine
> > > schedules, meetings with doctors and parole officers, tracking the
> > > admit process and the questionnaires they need to fill out, interface
> > > with government organizations, provide reports for the donors, etc.
> > > etc. etc.
> > >
> > > Their current infrastructure is based on 11 separate Access and/or
> > > Excel "applications" strung together will baling wire.
> > >
> > > Two years ago, they got a grant from (I think) the Kellogg Foundation
> > > to upgrade their infrastructure.  They found a company who said they
> > > would develop it in .NET Nuke. They spent two years and the entire
> > > grant and have no code to show for it, but they have very clear system
> > > requirements for what the application needs to do.
> > >
> > > It is very module, and could easily be tackled in small pieces, and
> > > those pieces have a high degree of possible reusability across
> > > charitable organizations.
> > >
> > > They have a small budget for this, since the whole grant was wasted.
> > > They also had unbelievably unrealistic timelines.  When we looked at
> > > the spec, we said it would be easily 9-18 months. Their original RFP
> > > (from two years ago) gave two months for dev.  Needless to say, they
> > > chose not to engage us to build the app.
> > >
> > > So, they are an ideal candidate because I don't think there is any way
> > > they are going to get something useful through normal commercial
> > > channels, due to the lack of funds compounded by lack of understanding
> > > of the nature of the beast.
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] http://www.trosainc.org/"
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> > >
> > > ----------------------------------
> > > Justin Gehtland
> > > justin at thinkrelevance.com
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