[Rubyforchange-talk] TROSA

[Helder Ribeiro]

Hey, I'm all in! Just to clear this out: are they ok with this having
an MIT-like license? I'm assuming we'd have the usual FOSS tools to
work on this (public repository, trackers, mailing lists, etc.), and
it'd be a bit tougher (and totally less cool) if the thing itself
weren't to be FOSS.

Btw, who would be "in charge"? I think it'd be important to have
someone heading this, as people have varying degrees of time to
dedicate, and an appropriate division of responsabilities could be
interesting.

Btw(2), is anyone here going to RubyConf? Any chance of a R4Change meetup?


Cheers,

Helder

2007/9/16, Matthew Cowley <madcowley at gmail.com>:
> Sounds good to me.
>
>
> Chad Fowler wrote:
> > "me too!"
> >
> > I think this would be a great first group to work with, and if Clinton
> > wants to volunteer to take the lead it sounds like we have a
> > near-perfect situation to get started.  Justin, would you like to make
> > an introduction?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chad
> >
> > On 9/14/07, Giles Bowkett <gilesb at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Clinton and Justin - can you get us more detail on their reqs.?
> >>
> >> On 9/13/07, Evan David Light <evan at tiggerpalace.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well said.  Sounds good to me.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 13, 2007, at 5:25 PM, Bruce Tate wrote:
> >>> If they have strong requirements, a motivation to work with us, and a strong
> >>> need, it sounds like a good customer.
> >>>
> >>> -bt
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 13, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Justin Gehtland wrote:
> >>> Trying to reply to this (seeing if it makes it through, now):
> >>>
> >>> That organization is still searching for the right people to build the app,
> >>> and I think would relish having the help of this kind of group.
> >>>
> >>> Justin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 13, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Chad Fowler wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Here's the email Justin Gehtland has been trying to send.  Getting
> >>> stopped somehow:
> >>>
> >>> Recently, we were approached by an organization in North Carolina
> >>> called TROSA [1].  They are a residential rehabilitation organization
> >>> for substance abusers who have several businesses that the "clients"
> >>> work in during their rehab in order to gain work experience and be
> >>> part of a structured organization.  For example, we used them to move
> >>> our furniture when we moved, and we buy our Christmas trees from them
> >>> every year.
> >>>
> >>> The scenario is this:
> >>>
> >>> They have essentially "enterprise-level" needs.  They need an
> >>> application to track their "clients", including things like medicine
> >>> schedules, meetings with doctors and parole officers, tracking the
> >>> admit process and the questionnaires they need to fill out, interface
> >>> with government organizations, provide reports for the donors, etc.
> >>> etc. etc.
> >>>
> >>> Their current infrastructure is based on 11 separate Access and/or
> >>> Excel "applications" strung together will baling wire.
> >>>
> >>> Two years ago, they got a grant from (I think) the Kellogg Foundation
> >>> to upgrade their infrastructure.  They found a company who said they
> >>> would develop it in .NET Nuke. They spent two years and the entire
> >>> grant and have no code to show for it, but they have very clear system
> >>> requirements for what the application needs to do.
> >>>
> >>> It is very module, and could easily be tackled in small pieces, and
> >>> those pieces have a high degree of possible reusability across
> >>> charitable organizations.
> >>>
> >>> They have a small budget for this, since the whole grant was wasted.
> >>> They also had unbelievably unrealistic timelines.  When we looked at
> >>> the spec, we said it would be easily 9-18 months. Their original RFP
> >>> (from two years ago) gave two months for dev.  Needless to say, they
> >>> chose not to engage us to build the app.
> >>>
> >>> So, they are an ideal candidate because I don't think there is any way
> >>> they are going to get something useful through normal commercial
> >>> channels, due to the lack of funds compounded by lack of understanding
> >>> of the nature of the beast.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [1] http://www.trosainc.org/"
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> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------
> >>> Justin Gehtland
> >>> justin at thinkrelevance.com
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> >>>
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