From urban at bettong.net  Sun Jan  1 08:13:38 2006
From: urban at bettong.net (Urban Hafner)
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 14:13:38 +0100
Subject: [typo] No tags for article displayed anymore
In-Reply-To: <A89370D6-E563-483C-9508-BD0208D76FB1@lenz.sh>
References: <CFF96114-9C4D-46F3-8F5A-021646611974@bettong.net>
	<A89370D6-E563-483C-9508-BD0208D76FB1@lenz.sh>
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On 31 Dec 2005, at 18:22, Patrick Lenz wrote:

>> since a short while the tags I give to an article aren't displayed
>> anymore. This happens only with new articles.
>
> About 18 seconds ago I committed a potential fix to subversion.
> Please try to upgrade to 804 and see if that fixes your problem.

Thanks for the quick response. I updated to 806, emptied the page  
cache but I still see no difference.

Urban

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From dusty.jewett at gmail.com  Sun Jan  1 09:44:08 2006
From: dusty.jewett at gmail.com (Dusty Jewett)
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 06:44:08 -0800
Subject: [typo] multiple blogs in typo ?
In-Reply-To: <loom.20060101T000416-114@post.gmane.org>
References: <20051222122744.GA17163@lbl.pl>
	<loom.20051229T231035-608@post.gmane.org>
	<loom.20060101T000416-114@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <939e27410601010644n1fcb282bm1c1c8e67321e533c@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a possibility for a patch with all of this in it?

On 12/31/05, Sean Mountcastle <smountcastle at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > The only issue I ran into was with ConfigManager ... the
> > ApplicationHelper.render_file method forces the ConfigManager to be
> > initialized (which causes it to reload settings) because it needs the
> theme
> > settings when configuring the search path.  I don't have a good solution
> > for this issue yet (I'd appreciate help from anyone on the list who
> knows
> > the ConfigManager well), but the workaround I did was to comment out
> > the call to reload in ConfigManager.initialize and modified
> > ConfigManager.reload to take an account parameter.
>
> I resolved my issue and now have settings/configuration info separated on
> a per blog basis. I had to modify every place where config was called so
> that
> the account id was passed in as well as the setting name.  In
> application_helper I modified config_value as follows and tried to use
> that
> where ever possible:
>
>   def config_value(name)
>     c = config(@controller.account)
>     c[name]
>   end
>
> The next issue I ran into was theme support, so that each blog was able to
> use its own theme.  I had to modify ThemeController, ThemesController and
> the theme model but it's still not quite working yet (from the HTTP GET
> requests it looks like it's looking for the themes in
> public/stylesheets/theme/).  I'll send mail once I get themes working
> for multiple blogs.
>
> Regards,
> Sean
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
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From smountcastle at gmail.com  Sun Jan  1 11:17:21 2006
From: smountcastle at gmail.com (Sean Mountcastle)
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 16:17:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [typo] multiple blogs in typo ?
References: <20051222122744.GA17163@lbl.pl>
	<loom.20051229T231035-608@post.gmane.org>
	<loom.20060101T000416-114@post.gmane.org>
	<939e27410601010644n1fcb282bm1c1c8e67321e533c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <loom.20060101T171141-717@post.gmane.org>

Dusty,

> Is there a possibility for a patch with all of this in it?

Sure, though I'd like to get things working before releasing a patch.  
Hopefully by the end of next weekend (1/8) I can get a patch together.
I'm not sure if the Typo team would be interested in such a patch,
but I'll put it out there for all of the folks looking to host multiple
blogs with a single Typo install.

I finally figured out themes.  There's a route setup for the 
ThemeController so that's why I was seeing /stylesheets/theme/foo.css.
I had to modify ThemeController.render_theme_item to call 
Theme.current_theme_path(account). Once I did this I would see
multiple themes for different blogs working sporadically ... disabling
caching makes it work always.  Though I'm not sure if commenting out
  # caches_page :stylesheets, :javascript, :images
is a good idea for performance ... hopefully the browser is smart
about caching these items.

Regards,
Sean


From patrick at lenz.sh  Sun Jan  1 11:49:39 2006
From: patrick at lenz.sh (Patrick Lenz)
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 17:49:39 +0100
Subject: [typo] No tags for article displayed anymore
In-Reply-To: <3CAB90FC-1FA4-4AB3-98CC-F232FEB4E34A@bettong.net>
References: <CFF96114-9C4D-46F3-8F5A-021646611974@bettong.net>
	<A89370D6-E563-483C-9508-BD0208D76FB1@lenz.sh>
	<3CAB90FC-1FA4-4AB3-98CC-F232FEB4E34A@bettong.net>
Message-ID: <B6FB091E-B272-4DCA-A8C4-05CCB14BC37E@lenz.sh>

On Jan 1, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Urban Hafner wrote:

> Thanks for the quick response. I updated to 806, emptied the page
> cache but I still see no difference.

You might have to hit 'save' for each article missing the tags. The  
problem I fixed occurred while transforming the space separated  
Article#keywords field into separate rows in tags and assignments to  
articles_tags.

-- 
Patrick Lenz (scoop)

http://poocs.net/              # Personal Weblog
http://limited-overload.de/    # Web application development
http://freshmeat.net/          # Free software archive
http://topmedia.de/            # IT Storage Solutions



From urban at bettong.net  Sun Jan  1 14:02:12 2006
From: urban at bettong.net (Urban Hafner)
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 20:02:12 +0100
Subject: [typo] No tags for article displayed anymore
In-Reply-To: <B6FB091E-B272-4DCA-A8C4-05CCB14BC37E@lenz.sh>
References: <CFF96114-9C4D-46F3-8F5A-021646611974@bettong.net>
	<A89370D6-E563-483C-9508-BD0208D76FB1@lenz.sh>
	<3CAB90FC-1FA4-4AB3-98CC-F232FEB4E34A@bettong.net>
	<B6FB091E-B272-4DCA-A8C4-05CCB14BC37E@lenz.sh>
Message-ID: <5EAA3E5E-48A9-4065-8598-E08ED2C7B8EA@bettong.net>

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On 1 Jan 2006, at 17:49, Patrick Lenz wrote:

> You might have to hit 'save' for each article missing the tags. The
> problem I fixed occurred while transforming the space separated
> Article#keywords field into separate rows in tags and assignments to
> articles_tags.

Thanks. That worked!

Urban
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From phil at cryer.us  Mon Jan  2 12:04:44 2006
From: phil at cryer.us (phil)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 11:04:44 -0600
Subject: [typo] Searching for razure.zip
In-Reply-To: 5EAA3E5E-48A9-4065-8598-E08ED2C7B8EA@bettong.net
Message-ID: <0caa71958b4e0752a0731dad69173db9@pepe.cryer.us>

the site hosting razure.zip is down.  does anyone have this theme?  will themegarden be updated soon to allow for easy finding/downloading of themes?

Thanks

P
-- 
http://fak3r.com - you don't have to kick it


From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Mon Jan  2 15:05:04 2006
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:05:04 +0000
Subject: [typo] getUsersBlogs
In-Reply-To: <6476130E-621F-460C-BCC3-72B168D9B3BA@sigkill.org> (Scott Laird's
	message of "Sat, 31 Dec 2005 07:40:29 -0800")
References: <63E692DE-5B60-41B0-9FFC-401981D5B0FB@freedomdumlao.com>
	<6476130E-621F-460C-BCC3-72B168D9B3BA@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <m2bqyuflan.fsf@obelisk.bofh.org.uk>

Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org> writes:

> It's been a slow month.  I'd really like to get a few fixes  
> integrated, but something bizarre is going on with Ruby on my laptop;  
> once I get Ruby working again I'll start working through the backlog  
> of patches.

I'm currently having problems getting everything passing its tests
with Rails 1.0; something to do with categories not being saved, and
I've no clue why it's not working. Oh, and I've got a possible new job
lined up and a car to get serviced and... Once I've got that squared
away though I hope to be able to commit 1 full day a week working on
Typo. Probably Tuesdays.

-- 
Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
http://www.bofh.org.uk/

From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Mon Jan  2 15:08:06 2006
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:08:06 +0000
Subject: [typo] No tags for article displayed anymore
In-Reply-To: <B6FB091E-B272-4DCA-A8C4-05CCB14BC37E@lenz.sh> (Patrick Lenz's
	message of "Sun, 1 Jan 2006 17:49:39 +0100")
References: <CFF96114-9C4D-46F3-8F5A-021646611974@bettong.net>
	<A89370D6-E563-483C-9508-BD0208D76FB1@lenz.sh>
	<3CAB90FC-1FA4-4AB3-98CC-F232FEB4E34A@bettong.net>
	<B6FB091E-B272-4DCA-A8C4-05CCB14BC37E@lenz.sh>
Message-ID: <m27j9ifl5l.fsf@obelisk.bofh.org.uk>

Patrick Lenz <patrick at lenz.sh> writes:

> On Jan 1, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Urban Hafner wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the quick response. I updated to 806, emptied the page
>> cache but I still see no difference.
>
> You might have to hit 'save' for each article missing the tags. The  
> problem I fixed occurred while transforming the space separated  
> Article#keywords field into separate rows in tags and assignments to  
> articles_tags.

For future reference, something like:

  script/runner 'Article.find(:all).each {|a| a.save}' -e production

should do the job nicely.

I find myself wondering if some sort of 'rake refresh_content' task
might be a useful addition for the future...

-- 
Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
http://www.bofh.org.uk/

From patrick at lenz.sh  Mon Jan  2 15:13:39 2006
From: patrick at lenz.sh (Patrick Lenz)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:13:39 +0100
Subject: [typo] getUsersBlogs
In-Reply-To: <m2bqyuflan.fsf@obelisk.bofh.org.uk>
References: <63E692DE-5B60-41B0-9FFC-401981D5B0FB@freedomdumlao.com>
	<6476130E-621F-460C-BCC3-72B168D9B3BA@sigkill.org>
	<m2bqyuflan.fsf@obelisk.bofh.org.uk>
Message-ID: <EE39C3A0-6E2A-49D1-B60C-C124E7945C15@lenz.sh>

On Jan 2, 2006, at 9:05 PM, Piers Cawley wrote:

> I'm currently having problems getting everything passing its tests
> with Rails 1.0; something to do with categories not being saved, and
> I've no clue why it's not working.

There's an issue in Rails 1.0 having to do with multiple habtm  
relationships where only the first is being saved properly. This  
should be fixed in Rails trunk.

However, the changesets I fired in over the last days made all tests  
pass for me. You might want to sync your tree.

-- 
Patrick Lenz (scoop)

http://poocs.net/              # Personal Weblog
http://limited-overload.de/    # Web application development
http://freshmeat.net/          # Free software archive
http://topmedia.de/            # IT Storage Solutions



From scott at sigkill.org  Mon Jan  2 16:13:32 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:13:32 -0800
Subject: [typo] getUsersBlogs
In-Reply-To: <m2bqyuflan.fsf@obelisk.bofh.org.uk>
References: <63E692DE-5B60-41B0-9FFC-401981D5B0FB@freedomdumlao.com>
	<6476130E-621F-460C-BCC3-72B168D9B3BA@sigkill.org>
	<m2bqyuflan.fsf@obelisk.bofh.org.uk>
Message-ID: <7DE3E645-3426-416C-B0D3-F687AFFF0E87@sigkill.org>


On Jan 2, 2006, at 12:05 PM, Piers Cawley wrote:

> Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org> writes:
>
>> It's been a slow month.  I'd really like to get a few fixes
>> integrated, but something bizarre is going on with Ruby on my laptop;
>> once I get Ruby working again I'll start working through the backlog
>> of patches.
>
> I'm currently having problems getting everything passing its tests
> with Rails 1.0; something to do with categories not being saved, and
> I've no clue why it's not working. Oh, and I've got a possible new job
> lined up and a car to get serviced and... Once I've got that squared
> away though I hope to be able to commit 1 full day a week working on
> Typo. Probably Tuesdays.

Heh.  I've been in a similar boat, with a new job 700 miles from  
home.  Fortunately, it looks like my schedule will calm back down  
later this week and I should be able to get more accomplished with Typo.


Scott

From ernieoporto at gmail.com  Mon Jan  2 17:02:11 2006
From: ernieoporto at gmail.com (Ernie Oporto)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:02:11 -0500
Subject: [typo] Searching for razure.zip
In-Reply-To: <0caa71958b4e0752a0731dad69173db9@pepe.cryer.us>
References: <0caa71958b4e0752a0731dad69173db9@pepe.cryer.us>
Message-ID: <f91ac86d0601021402p3e249ce0jfe7a410f8bfef09a@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry for not having it up.  My motherboard died so the server is down at
the moment.  It should be up this week once a new Asus board comes in. I
have developed a special hate for Abit's support these past weeks.
For now you can download it from http://www.patmedia.net/eoporto/razure.zip
Ernie



On 1/2/06, phil <phil at cryer.us> wrote:
>
> the site hosting razure.zip is down.  does anyone have this theme?  will
> themegarden be updated soon to allow for easy finding/downloading of themes?
>
> Thanks
>
> P
> --
> http://fak3r.com - you don't have to kick it
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
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From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Mon Jan  2 17:20:13 2006
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 22:20:13 +0000
Subject: [typo] getUsersBlogs
In-Reply-To: <EE39C3A0-6E2A-49D1-B60C-C124E7945C15@lenz.sh> (Patrick Lenz's
	message of "Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:13:39 +0100")
References: <63E692DE-5B60-41B0-9FFC-401981D5B0FB@freedomdumlao.com>
	<6476130E-621F-460C-BCC3-72B168D9B3BA@sigkill.org>
	<m2bqyuflan.fsf@obelisk.bofh.org.uk>
	<EE39C3A0-6E2A-49D1-B60C-C124E7945C15@lenz.sh>
Message-ID: <m23bk6ff1e.fsf@obelisk.bofh.org.uk>

Patrick Lenz <patrick at lenz.sh> writes:

> On Jan 2, 2006, at 9:05 PM, Piers Cawley wrote:
>
>> I'm currently having problems getting everything passing its tests
>> with Rails 1.0; something to do with categories not being saved, and
>> I've no clue why it's not working.
>
> There's an issue in Rails 1.0 having to do with multiple habtm  
> relationships where only the first is being saved properly. This  
> should be fixed in Rails trunk.
>
> However, the changesets I fired in over the last days made all tests  
> pass for me. You might want to sync your tree.

Yup, just did and all is well.

-- 
Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
http://www.bofh.org.uk/

From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Mon Jan  2 17:20:43 2006
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 22:20:43 +0000
Subject: [typo] getUsersBlogs
In-Reply-To: <7DE3E645-3426-416C-B0D3-F687AFFF0E87@sigkill.org> (Scott Laird's
	message of "Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:13:32 -0800")
References: <63E692DE-5B60-41B0-9FFC-401981D5B0FB@freedomdumlao.com>
	<6476130E-621F-460C-BCC3-72B168D9B3BA@sigkill.org>
	<m2bqyuflan.fsf@obelisk.bofh.org.uk>
	<7DE3E645-3426-416C-B0D3-F687AFFF0E87@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <m2y81ye0g4.fsf@obelisk.bofh.org.uk>

Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org> writes:

> On Jan 2, 2006, at 12:05 PM, Piers Cawley wrote:
>
>> Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org> writes:
>>
>>> It's been a slow month.  I'd really like to get a few fixes
>>> integrated, but something bizarre is going on with Ruby on my laptop;
>>> once I get Ruby working again I'll start working through the backlog
>>> of patches.
>>
>> I'm currently having problems getting everything passing its tests
>> with Rails 1.0; something to do with categories not being saved, and
>> I've no clue why it's not working. Oh, and I've got a possible new job
>> lined up and a car to get serviced and... Once I've got that squared
>> away though I hope to be able to commit 1 full day a week working on
>> Typo. Probably Tuesdays.
>
> Heh.  I've been in a similar boat, with a new job 700 miles from  
> home.  Fortunately, it looks like my schedule will calm back down  
> later this week and I should be able to get more accomplished with Typo.

That and Christmas/New Year/Housewarming. Mmm... new house.

-- 
Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
http://www.bofh.org.uk/

From phil at cryer.us  Tue Jan  3 10:28:26 2006
From: phil at cryer.us (phil)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 9:28:26 -0600
Subject: [typo] Searching for razure.zip
In-Reply-To: f91ac86d0601021402p3e249ce0jfe7a410f8bfef09a@mail.gmail.com
Message-ID: <6a328c1b529108ec0a52305ea44a8358@pepe.cryer.us>

Ernie
Thanks so much.  In the future will this be available via Typogarden?  I think having them all hosted there would make sense.  Thanks again for the theme, I want to use it for my old site that I'm getting ready to migrate from Drupal over to Typo (possibly to MT first...)

P

On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:02:11 -0500, Ernie Oporto <ernieoporto at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry for not having it up.  My motherboard died so the server is down at
> the moment.  It should be up this week once a new Asus board comes in. I
> have developed a special hate for Abit's support these past weeks.
> For now you can download it from
> http://www.patmedia.net/eoporto/razure.zip
> Ernie
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/2/06, phil <phil at cryer.us> wrote:
>>
>> the site hosting razure.zip is down.  does anyone have this theme?  will
>> themegarden be updated soon to allow for easy finding/downloading of
> themes?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> P
>> --
>> http://fak3r.com - you don't have to kick it
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Typo-list mailing list
>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>>
> 
> 
-- 
http://fak3r.com - you don't have to kick it


From tannoiser at tenzione.it  Tue Jan  3 19:34:40 2006
From: tannoiser at tenzione.it (Maurizio Lemmo - Tannoiser)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 01:34:40 +0100
Subject: [typo] comments with created_at field wrong?
Message-ID: <20060104003440.GA29168@tannoiser.sytes.net>

Greeting to all the list members.

I'm experienced a strange issue, and honestly i can't say if it is an
error of mine, or what.

I run typo 2.6.0 with rails 1.0 on debian sarge (postgresql as rdbms).

When i wrote article, all went ok.
When someone, including me, leave a comment, the field "created_at"
seems wrong, and i've to fix it by hand.

I've not recognize a pattern. It's just wrong. Localtime are correctly
configurated, for my timezone (CET) ie: 

mizio at samael:~$ date
Wed Jan  4 01:25:04 CET 2006

the "updated_at" seems perfect. But because the comments order is showed
from "created_at" field, it's messy.

It could be related to some browser's cache issue?
It is something that i missed at configuration time?

I've searched in typo's ticket and in past messages, but seems nothing
apply to this stuff.

Thank you in advice. I apologize for my english, i'm not english native.

-- 
                          Maurizio - Tannoiser - Lemmo
                 Founder Member of ERLUG http://erlug.linux.it
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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who knows where they are."
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From rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz  Tue Jan  3 19:40:13 2006
From: rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz (Rodger Donaldson)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 13:40:13 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [typo] comments with created_at field wrong?
In-Reply-To: <20060104003440.GA29168@tannoiser.sytes.net>
References: <20060104003440.GA29168@tannoiser.sytes.net>
Message-ID: <13853.202.49.97.7.1136335213.squirrel@israel.diaspora.gen.nz>

On Wed, January 4, 2006 13:34, Maurizio Lemmo - Tannoiser wrote:
>
> the "updated_at" seems perfect. But because the comments order is showed
> from "created_at" field, it's messy.
>
> It could be related to some browser's cache issue?
> It is something that i missed at configuration time?

I have this issue as well.  It seems to be related to session cookies
somehow.

From typo-list at kekova.ca  Tue Jan  3 21:35:51 2006
From: typo-list at kekova.ca (Chris Nolan.ca)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:35:51 -0500
Subject: [typo] comments with created_at field wrong?
In-Reply-To: <13853.202.49.97.7.1136335213.squirrel@israel.diaspora.gen.nz>
References: <20060104003440.GA29168@tannoiser.sytes.net>
	<13853.202.49.97.7.1136335213.squirrel@israel.diaspora.gen.nz>
Message-ID: <0891F275-C8DD-4419-ACD5-9A65D26DF3A3@kekova.ca>

You guys are both the other side of the GMT so I'm thinking it has  
something to do with positive timezones but it's hard to say without  
seeing some more data.

If you leave two comments in a row, are they both off, and by the  
same amount?

What is your config.active_record.default_timezone set to in your  
config/environment.rb if you're running rails 1.0?

Chris Nolan.ca
http://kekova.ca/

On Jan 3, 2006, at 19:40, Rodger Donaldson wrote:

> On Wed, January 4, 2006 13:34, Maurizio Lemmo - Tannoiser wrote:
>>
>> the "updated_at" seems perfect. But because the comments order is  
>> showed
>> from "created_at" field, it's messy.
>>
>> It could be related to some browser's cache issue?
>> It is something that i missed at configuration time?
>
> I have this issue as well.  It seems to be related to session cookies
> somehow.

From stephen at deanbrook.org  Wed Jan  4 00:02:53 2006
From: stephen at deanbrook.org (Stephen Bannasch)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 00:02:53 -0500
Subject: [typo] missing theme in 2.6.0
Message-ID: <p0623090bbfe102c344e7@[140.186.103.10]>

I am testing the 2.6.0 release of typo After starting the blog, 
entering a bit of administrivia and writing the first post when I 
went to view the blog the content displayed with no theme.

The html source was looking for the theme stylesheet here:

<link href="/stylesheets/theme/azure.css" media="screen" 
rel="Stylesheet" type="text/css" />

which maps to:

   typo/public/stylesheets/theme/azure.css

but the theme actually is located here:

   themes/azure/stylesheets/azure.css

In order to get the stylesheet to display I had to create a symbolic link

   typo/public/stylesheets/theme -> ../../themes/azure/stylesheets

I must be missing something obvious because I find it hard to believe 
this is what I am supposed to do ...?

Thanks for any help.
-- 

-- Stephen Bannasch, stephen at deanbrook dot org

From scott at sigkill.org  Wed Jan  4 00:10:01 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:10:01 -0800
Subject: [typo] missing theme in 2.6.0
In-Reply-To: <p0623090bbfe102c344e7@[140.186.103.10]>
References: <p0623090bbfe102c344e7@[140.186.103.10]>
Message-ID: <5955E4A4-001B-44E7-AE33-BCD383ED0448@sigkill.org>

Remove the symlink and try again, watching your logs.  Everything in / 
stylesheets/theme/ should be populated automatically from the current  
theme, if it isn't then there should be an error message logged.


Scott

On Jan 3, 2006, at 9:02 PM, Stephen Bannasch wrote:

> I am testing the 2.6.0 release of typo After starting the blog,
> entering a bit of administrivia and writing the first post when I
> went to view the blog the content displayed with no theme.
>
> The html source was looking for the theme stylesheet here:
>
> <link href="/stylesheets/theme/azure.css" media="screen"
> rel="Stylesheet" type="text/css" />
>
> which maps to:
>
>    typo/public/stylesheets/theme/azure.css
>
> but the theme actually is located here:
>
>    themes/azure/stylesheets/azure.css
>
> In order to get the stylesheet to display I had to create a  
> symbolic link
>
>    typo/public/stylesheets/theme -> ../../themes/azure/stylesheets
>
> I must be missing something obvious because I find it hard to believe
> this is what I am supposed to do ...?
>
> Thanks for any help.
> -- 
>
> -- Stephen Bannasch, stephen at deanbrook dot org
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From stephen at deanbrook.org  Wed Jan  4 00:40:47 2006
From: stephen at deanbrook.org (Stephen Bannasch)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 00:40:47 -0500
Subject: [typo] missing theme in 2.6.0
In-Reply-To: <5955E4A4-001B-44E7-AE33-BCD383ED0448@sigkill.org>
References: <p0623090bbfe102c344e7@[140.186.103.10]>
	<5955E4A4-001B-44E7-AE33-BCD383ED0448@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <p0623090cbfe10bcb62ec@[140.186.103.10]>

>Remove the symlink and try again, watching your logs.  Everything in /
>stylesheets/theme/ should be populated automatically from the current 
>theme, if it isn't then there should be an error message logged.
>
>Scott

Thanks for the response Scott.

Hmmm ... I removed the symlink and reloaded the page and the theme was still there -- interesting ... so trying to reconstruct what might have caused the problem I remembered stopping and starting WEBrick before.

So I typed C-c to stop WEBrick and started it up:
  
  ruby script/server -e development

reloaded the page and the theme is now missing. See error #1 below from the development.log

This was all in Safari so I tried reloading the same page from Firefox (which had a properly rendered typo page displayed before I clicked reload) and got error #2 below (from the html page). I went back to Safari and reloaded the page and the theme was back. I then went back to Firefox and reloaded the page and the theme was back.  Back to Safari and the theme was missing again.

It seems like there is some subtlety to session ids, accessing WEBrick from multiple browsers on one machine (sameIP) and restarting WEBrick and theme processing that I don't understand well.


----error #1------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Processing ThemeController#stylesheets (for 127.0.0.1 at 2006-01-04 00:22:42) [GET]
  CGI::Session::ActiveRecordStore::Session Load (0.000000)   Mysql::Error: Lost connection to MySQL server during query: SELECT * FROM sessions WHERE (sessions.`sessid` = '89e43554ffca879ec1cd99dde885e10e' ) LIMIT 1
  Parameters: {"action"=>"stylesheets", "controller"=>"theme", "filename"=>"azure.css"}


ArgumentError (undefined class/module User):
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:83:in `dump'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:83:in `marshal'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:129:in `marshal_data!'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/callbacks.rb:333:in `callback'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/callbacks.rb:330:in `callback'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/callbacks.rb:248:in `create_or_update'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/base.rb:1226:in `save_without_validation'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/validations.rb:698:in `save_without_transactions'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:126:in `save'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/database_statements.rb:51:in `transaction'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:91:in `transaction'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:118:in `transaction'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:126:in `save'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:300:in `update'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/base.rb:831:in `silence'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:300:in `update'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:307:in `close'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/cgi/session.rb:330:in `close'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:914:in `close_session'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:372:in `process_without_session_management_support'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session_management.rb:116:in `process'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/dispatcher.rb:38:in `dispatch'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/webrick_server.rb:117:in `handle_dispatch'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/webrick_server.rb:83:in `service'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/httpserver.rb:104:in `service'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/httpserver.rb:65:in `run'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:173:in `start_thread'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:162:in `start_thread'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:95:in `start'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:92:in `start'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:23:in `start'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:82:in `start'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/webrick_server.rb:69:in `dispatch'
    script/server:49

----error #2------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 ArgumentError in <controller not set>#<action not set>

undefined class/module User

RAILS_ROOT: ./script/../config/../
Application Trace | Framework Trace | Full Trace

/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:83:in `dump'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:83:in `marshal'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:129:in `marshal_data!'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/callbacks.rb:333:in `callback'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/callbacks.rb:330:in `callback'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/callbacks.rb:248:in `create_or_update'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/base.rb:1226:in `save_without_validation'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/validations.rb:698:in `save_without_transactions'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:126:in `save'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/database_statements.rb:51:in `transaction'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:91:in `transaction'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:118:in `transaction'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:126:in `save'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:300:in `update'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/base.rb:831:in `silence'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:300:in `update'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:307:in `close'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/cgi/session.rb:166:in `callback'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:69:in `dup'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:66:in `dup'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:19:in `indent'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:154:in `recognition_check'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:159:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:136:in `go'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:132:in `continue'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:80:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:99:in `move_forward'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:80:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:19:in `indent'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:92:in `if_next_matches'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:79:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:136:in `go'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:132:in `continue'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:80:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:99:in `move_forward'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:80:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:19:in `indent'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:92:in `if_next_matches'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:79:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:136:in `go'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:326:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:479:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:583:in `each'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:477:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:19:in `indent'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:476:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:578:in `draw'
#{RAILS_ROOT}config/routes.rb:1

/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:83:in `dump'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:83:in `marshal'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:129:in `marshal_data!'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/callbacks.rb:333:in `callback'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/callbacks.rb:330:in `callback'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/callbacks.rb:248:in `create_or_update'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/base.rb:1226:in `save_without_validation'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/validations.rb:698:in `save_without_transactions'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:126:in `save'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/database_statements.rb:51:in `transaction'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:91:in `transaction'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:118:in `transaction'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:126:in `save'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:300:in `update'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/base.rb:831:in `silence'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:300:in `update'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:307:in `close'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/cgi/session.rb:166:in `callback'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:69:in `dup'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:66:in `dup'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:19:in `indent'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:154:in `recognition_check'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:159:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:136:in `go'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:132:in `continue'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:80:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:99:in `move_forward'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:80:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:19:in `indent'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:92:in `if_next_matches'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:79:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:136:in `go'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:132:in `continue'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:80:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:99:in `move_forward'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:80:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:19:in `indent'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:92:in `if_next_matches'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:79:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:136:in `go'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:326:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:479:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:583:in `each'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:477:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:19:in `indent'
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/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:555:in `reload'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/dispatcher.rb:69:in `prepare_application'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/dispatcher.rb:37:in `dispatch'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/webrick_server.rb:117:in `handle_dispatch'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/webrick_server.rb:83:in `service'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/httpserver.rb:104:in `service'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/httpserver.rb:65:in `run'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:173:in `start_thread'
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script/server:49

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/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/callbacks.rb:333:in `callback'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/callbacks.rb:330:in `callback'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/callbacks.rb:248:in `create_or_update'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/base.rb:1226:in `save_without_validation'
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/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:126:in `save'
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/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:118:in `transaction'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:126:in `save'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:300:in `update'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/active_record/base.rb:831:in `silence'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:300:in `update'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session/active_record_store.rb:307:in `close'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/cgi/session.rb:166:in `callback'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:69:in `dup'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:66:in `dup'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:19:in `indent'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:154:in `recognition_check'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:159:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:136:in `go'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:132:in `continue'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:80:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:99:in `move_forward'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:80:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:19:in `indent'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:92:in `if_next_matches'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:79:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:136:in `go'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:132:in `continue'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:80:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:99:in `move_forward'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:80:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:19:in `indent'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:92:in `if_next_matches'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:79:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:136:in `go'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:326:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:479:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:583:in `each'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:477:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
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/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/code_generation.rb:46:in `method_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:476:in `write_recognition'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:578:in `draw'
#{RAILS_ROOT}config/routes.rb:1
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/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:555:in `reload'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/dispatcher.rb:69:in `prepare_application'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/dispatcher.rb:37:in `dispatch'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/webrick_server.rb:117:in `handle_dispatch'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/webrick_server.rb:83:in `service'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/httpserver.rb:104:in `service'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/httpserver.rb:65:in `run'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:173:in `start_thread'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:162:in `start_thread'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:95:in `start'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:92:in `start'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:23:in `start'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:82:in `start'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/webrick_server.rb:69:in `dispatch'
script/server:49

This error occured while loading the following files:
   ./script/../config/../config/routes.rb

Request

Parameters: None

Show session dump

flash: !map:ActionController::Flash::FlashHash {}


Response
Headers: {"cookie"=>[], "Cache-Control"=>"no-cache"}
-- 

-- Stephen Bannasch, stephen at deanbrook dot org

From tannoiser at tenzione.it  Wed Jan  4 06:50:39 2006
From: tannoiser at tenzione.it (Maurizio Lemmo - Tannoiser)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 12:50:39 +0100
Subject: [typo] comments with created_at field wrong?
In-Reply-To: <0891F275-C8DD-4419-ACD5-9A65D26DF3A3@kekova.ca>
References: <20060104003440.GA29168@tannoiser.sytes.net>
	<13853.202.49.97.7.1136335213.squirrel@israel.diaspora.gen.nz>
	<0891F275-C8DD-4419-ACD5-9A65D26DF3A3@kekova.ca>
Message-ID: <20060104115038.GA19853@tannoiser.sytes.net>

* marted? 03 gennaio 2006, alle 21:35, Chris Nolan.ca scrive:
> You guys are both the other side of the GMT so I'm thinking it has  
> something to do with positive timezones but it's hard to say without  
> seeing some more data.
> 
> If you leave two comments in a row, are they both off, and by the  
> same amount?
> 
> What is your config.active_record.default_timezone set to in your  
> config/environment.rb if you're running rails 1.0?

Hi Chris.

First, i haven't config.active_record.default_timezone because I run an
untouched version of typo 2.6.0.

Anyway, a take a look around and made some test.

For what I can say, this could be a time rappresentation issue.

I've my pgsql db encoded in latin1 (I'm italian, i need this set for
some char encoding).

I notice that created_at (and updated_at, also...) is defined as
"timestamp". AFAIK, timestamp format, in postgresql, don't bring the
timezone information.

I always use "timestamp with time zone" that do the job.

Because postgres in debian is version 7.4.7, we don't have an easy way
to change datatype. I've to rename old column, create new one, copy
data, and drop the old.

Before do this, i'd like an opinion of us.

Make sense for you guys? If this is the trouble, i suggest to change the
schema in this way.

-- 
                          Maurizio - Tannoiser - Lemmo
                 Founder Member of ERLUG http://erlug.linux.it
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Olivia: "Rupert, is this bleu cheese, or is it just cheese
   that's gone blue?"
	--Buffy the Vampire Slayer: The Freshman

From cedric at feelfree.homelinux.com  Sat Jan  7 04:21:39 2006
From: cedric at feelfree.homelinux.com (cedric)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 10:21:39 +0100
Subject: [typo]  missing theme in 2.6.0
Message-ID: <200601071021.39665.cedric@feelfree.homelinux.com>

Hi Stephen,

Did you change anything in config/routes.rb ?


From gab at gab.net  Sat Jan  7 12:24:47 2006
From: gab at gab.net (Geir Arne Brevik)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 18:24:47 +0100
Subject: [typo] Can't log in after (unsuccessful?) database migration
Message-ID: <56accf730601070924y758272e4i92cee366fbd9364a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

Since Typo is a moving target, I decided yesterday to upgrade my
installation at www.gab.net to the latest version from the SVN trunk.
Since my hoster is Dreamhost, there were of course problems:

* After I uploaded the new files, I went to /admin/ and got the
message I hoped for; everything was OK, and my database supported
migration.
* I clicked "migrate database" (or whatever the button says)
* I got Rails Error
* I tried once again, and got the same error
* When I've tried to log in ever since, I got "Login unsuccessful".
Otherwise the installation works like a charm, I can for example add
new comments
* I've looked at my database tables, and they seem updated (compared
to schema.mysql.sql), with the new user notification fields in the
"user" table. My user info also seems unaltered, but no, I can't get
to log in, not by web or MarsEdit.

Has this anything to do with Dreamhost lagging behind with its shared
Rails version? Should I install it myself instead?
But most of all: How can I log in, so I can publish again?

Just a little about where I come from: I'm using my installation of
Typo to learn about RoR, so I may be overlooking obvious things. I'm
not sure wich version I've upgraded from, but I think it was around
740.

Thanks for all your work on Typo (I like it enough to go through all this)! :-)

-Geir Arne

--
Geir Arne Brevik
gab at gab.net
www.gab.net
+47 91 75 64 30


From rasputnik at gmail.com  Sat Jan  7 18:54:44 2006
From: rasputnik at gmail.com (Dick Davies)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 23:54:44 +0000
Subject: [typo] Can't log in after (unsuccessful?) database migration
In-Reply-To: <56accf730601070924y758272e4i92cee366fbd9364a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <56accf730601070924y758272e4i92cee366fbd9364a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3f1760601071554t47d67081w@mail.gmail.com>

try this:

  http://www.mail-archive.com/typo-list at rubyforge.org/msg01025.html

On 07/01/06, Geir Arne Brevik <gab at gab.net> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Since Typo is a moving target, I decided yesterday to upgrade my
> installation at www.gab.net to the latest version from the SVN trunk.
> Since my hoster is Dreamhost, there were of course problems:
>
> * After I uploaded the new files, I went to /admin/ and got the
> message I hoped for; everything was OK, and my database supported
> migration.
> * I clicked "migrate database" (or whatever the button says)
> * I got Rails Error
> * I tried once again, and got the same error
> * When I've tried to log in ever since, I got "Login unsuccessful".
> Otherwise the installation works like a charm, I can for example add
> new comments
> * I've looked at my database tables, and they seem updated (compared
> to schema.mysql.sql), with the new user notification fields in the
> "user" table. My user info also seems unaltered, but no, I can't get
> to log in, not by web or MarsEdit.
>
> Has this anything to do with Dreamhost lagging behind with its shared
> Rails version? Should I install it myself instead?
> But most of all: How can I log in, so I can publish again?
>
> Just a little about where I come from: I'm using my installation of
> Typo to learn about RoR, so I may be overlooking obvious things. I'm
> not sure wich version I've upgraded from, but I think it was around
> 740.
>
> Thanks for all your work on Typo (I like it enough to go through all this)! :-)
>
> -Geir Arne
>
> --
> Geir Arne Brevik
> gab at gab.net
> www.gab.net
> +47 91 75 64 30
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>


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From smountcastle at gmail.com  Sun Jan  8 00:22:02 2006
From: smountcastle at gmail.com (Sean Mountcastle)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 05:22:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [typo] multiple blogs in typo ?
References: <20051222122744.GA17163@lbl.pl>
	<loom.20051229T231035-608@post.gmane.org>
	<loom.20060101T000416-114@post.gmane.org>
	<939e27410601010644n1fcb282bm1c1c8e67321e533c@mail.gmail.com>
	<loom.20060101T171141-717@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <loom.20060108T061313-489@post.gmane.org>


> > Is there a possibility for a patch with all of this in it?
> 
> Sure, though I'd like to get things working before releasing a patch.  
> Hopefully by the end of next weekend (1/8) I can get a patch together.
> I'm not sure if the Typo team would be interested in such a patch,
> but I'll put it out there for all of the folks looking to host multiple
> blogs with a single Typo install.

As promised, I've put a copy of a patch against Typo 821 (the most 
current version from the SVN trunk as of right now).  This is still in a
very rudimentary state and I'm sure there are a bunch of bugs
(particular with the sidebars).  I'm not sending this patch to the Typo
maintainers because I haven't written any tests yet nor have I resolved
known bugs -- but I've received several private emails from folks
interested in this sort of functionality, so hopefully getting this patch
out there will get folks more interested in contributing so that functionality
makes it into Typo (if the core team is interested in supporting 
multiple blogs with a single install).

Here's the link, the file is 12k. 
http://seanmountcastle.com/files/multiblog-typo.diff.zip

I don't have a huge bandwidth quota,
so if the demand for this file grows too large, I'll have to find another
place to host it.

Regards,
Sean


From scott at sigkill.org  Sun Jan  8 00:31:00 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 21:31:00 -0800
Subject: [typo] multiple blogs in typo ?
In-Reply-To: <loom.20060108T061313-489@post.gmane.org>
References: <20051222122744.GA17163@lbl.pl>
	<loom.20051229T231035-608@post.gmane.org>
	<loom.20060101T000416-114@post.gmane.org>
	<939e27410601010644n1fcb282bm1c1c8e67321e533c@mail.gmail.com>
	<loom.20060101T171141-717@post.gmane.org>
	<loom.20060108T061313-489@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <CA3EE051-DD84-4A9B-80B8-CE931A7EA8E3@sigkill.org>


On Jan 7, 2006, at 9:22 PM, Sean Mountcastle wrote:

>
>>> Is there a possibility for a patch with all of this in it?
>>
>> Sure, though I'd like to get things working before releasing a patch.
>> Hopefully by the end of next weekend (1/8) I can get a patch  
>> together.
>> I'm not sure if the Typo team would be interested in such a patch,
>> but I'll put it out there for all of the folks looking to host  
>> multiple
>> blogs with a single Typo install.
>
> As promised, I've put a copy of a patch against Typo 821 (the most
> current version from the SVN trunk as of right now).  This is still  
> in a
> very rudimentary state and I'm sure there are a bunch of bugs
> (particular with the sidebars).  I'm not sending this patch to the  
> Typo
> maintainers because I haven't written any tests yet nor have I  
> resolved
> known bugs -- but I've received several private emails from folks
> interested in this sort of functionality, so hopefully getting this  
> patch
> out there will get folks more interested in contributing so that  
> functionality
> makes it into Typo (if the core team is interested in supporting
> multiple blogs with a single install).
>
> Here's the link, the file is 12k.
> http://seanmountcastle.com/files/multiblog-typo.diff.zip
>
> I don't have a huge bandwidth quota,
> so if the demand for this file grows too large, I'll have to find  
> another
> place to host it.

Feel free to submit this to the typo bug tracker, just prefix the bug  
subject with '[XPATCH]', and we'll understand that it's not ready to  
merge.


Scott


From brianellin at gmail.com  Sun Jan  8 00:59:19 2006
From: brianellin at gmail.com (Brian Ellin)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 21:59:19 -0800
Subject: [typo] OpenID authenticated comments
Message-ID: <9674d5350601072159w16744eecra3b768cf24448aeb@mail.gmail.com>

Typo developers,

I'm starting a Typo powered blog, and being an OpenID developer I'd like to
launch it with OpenID authenticated comments.  This evening I hacked
together primitive OpenID authentication within the existing comment
framework.  It works by authenticating the URL the commenter types in the
"Your blog" field.

After doing this I actually googled "typo openid" to find:
http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/09/15/comments-for-typo
http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/469

There appears to be sufficient interest in having OpenID enabled comments
distributed with typo, and I have a few questions for you developers about
how it should all work.

1) UI and flow
Before adding a comment, the user needs to be authenticated.  This could be
done in one or two steps.  In the two step case, the user enters their
OpenID url, is authenticated, and then may proceed to the add comment form.
In the one step case, the OpenID field and the comment content are in the
same form.  On submission, the comment is stored somewhere (session?), and
then the authentication is done on the URL.  This requires a redirect to the
commenter's OpenID server, and upon return and valid authentication the
comment is added to the site.

Which of these methods best fits into Typo?  I personally like the two-step
case, in which I can essentially be logged into the site and post other
comments without typing my OpenID again.  In the one step case, there needs
to be a strategy for when the user is unable to authenticate.  If the user
cannot auth, the comment data is still stored in the session and will have
to be GC'd.

2) Redirect & AJAX
Comments in typo are AJAX'd by default.  The OpenID protocol requires a
browser redirect to send the commenter to auth w/ her server, and this does
not fit well into the AJAX style of posting.
On an AJAX redirect, a message shows up saying something like "You are being
redirected", where the "redirected" word is actually a link the user has to
click to go to the redirect.  Obviously that makes for a weird user
experience, and it'd be best if the user was just automatically redirected.

Positive user experience would require non-AJAX comment posting for OpenID
authenticated comments.

3) How does all this fit in with the existing comment system?
Are the other fields necessary anymore?  Email is important, but in the
future OpenID world it will be less important.  Name and blog URL are not
explicitly necessary.  Personally I'd like to see just an OpenID URL field
and the comment box (which is probably how i'll set it up on my site).

4) Configuration options
Should OpenID authentication be toggleable for comments?  Etc...

I'm really excited about adding OpenID authentication to Typo, and look
forward to your thoughts on it all.

Have a good weekend,
Brian Ellin
http://brian.myopenid.com
http://openidenabled.com/
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From patrick at lenz.sh  Sun Jan  8 02:56:45 2006
From: patrick at lenz.sh (Patrick Lenz)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 08:56:45 +0100
Subject: [typo] OpenID authenticated comments
In-Reply-To: <9674d5350601072159w16744eecra3b768cf24448aeb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9674d5350601072159w16744eecra3b768cf24448aeb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <40fe71380601072356p6a3b793dhaefbec16a58beb16@mail.gmail.com>

Brian,

a couple of remarks:

It's great to see progress on authentication systems integration for
typo. However, this should never replace simple and anonymous comments
on any blog. It should be completely optional.

It also shouldn't require us to get rid of AJAX comments. Although
we've had many griefs with it in the past, it's still kind of a unique
feature that sets us apart from the competition. We should still be
able to make the redirects work through Javascript (similar to what
Google does with its services right now where you sign in with your
Google account, get a little read 'Loading..' in the upper right
corner and are then redirected to the final, authenticated service
page).

Putting the Open ID token in the session will be a bit of work as with
statically cached pages the session is not available up front.
However, we could even resort to having it pre-filled in a form with
an Ajax callback if you've commented before.

Regards,

Patrick

On 1/8/06, Brian Ellin <brianellin at gmail.com> wrote:
> Typo developers,
>
>  I'm starting a Typo powered blog, and being an OpenID developer I'd like to
> launch it with OpenID authenticated comments.  This evening I hacked
> together primitive OpenID authentication within the existing comment
> framework.  It works by authenticating the URL the commenter types in the
> "Your blog" field.
>
>  After doing this I actually googled "typo openid" to find:
> http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/09/15/comments-for-typo
>  http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/469
>
>  There appears to be sufficient interest in having OpenID enabled comments
> distributed with typo, and I have a few questions for you developers about
> how it should all work.
>
>  1) UI and flow
>  Before adding a comment, the user needs to be authenticated.  This could be
> done in one or two steps.  In the two step case, the user enters their
> OpenID url, is authenticated, and then may proceed to the add comment form.
> In the one step case, the OpenID field and the comment content are in the
> same form.  On submission, the comment is stored somewhere (session?), and
> then the authentication is done on the URL.  This requires a redirect to the
> commenter's OpenID server, and upon return and valid authentication the
> comment is added to the site.
>
>  Which of these methods best fits into Typo?  I personally like the two-step
> case, in which I can essentially be logged into the site and post other
> comments without typing my OpenID again.  In the one step case, there needs
> to be a strategy for when the user is unable to authenticate.  If the user
> cannot auth, the comment data is still stored in the session and will have
> to be GC'd.
>
>  2) Redirect & AJAX
>  Comments in typo are AJAX'd by default.  The OpenID protocol requires a
> browser redirect to send the commenter to auth w/ her server, and this does
> not fit well into the AJAX style of posting.
>  On an AJAX redirect, a message shows up saying something like "You are
> being redirected", where the "redirected" word is actually a link the user
> has to click to go to the redirect.  Obviously that makes for a weird user
> experience, and it'd be best if the user was just automatically redirected.
>
>  Positive user experience would require non-AJAX comment posting for OpenID
> authenticated comments.
>
>  3) How does all this fit in with the existing comment system?
>  Are the other fields necessary anymore?  Email is important, but in the
> future OpenID world it will be less important.  Name and blog URL are not
> explicitly necessary.  Personally I'd like to see just an OpenID URL field
> and the comment box (which is probably how i'll set it up on my site).
>
>  4) Configuration options
>  Should OpenID authentication be toggleable for comments?  Etc...
>
>  I'm really excited about adding OpenID authentication to Typo, and look
> forward to your thoughts on it all.
>
>  Have a good weekend,
>  Brian Ellin
>  http://brian.myopenid.com
>  http://openidenabled.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
>
>


--

--
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http://poocs.net/              # Personal Weblog
http://limited-overload.de/    # Web application development
http://freshmeat.net/          # Free software archive
http://topmedia.de/            # IT Storage Solutions
http://eins.de/                # Community portal network


From stephen at deanbrook.org  Sun Jan  8 11:16:09 2006
From: stephen at deanbrook.org (Stephen Bannasch)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 11:16:09 -0500
Subject: [typo] missing theme in 2.6.0
In-Reply-To: <200601071021.39665.cedric@feelfree.homelinux.com>
References: <200601071021.39665.cedric@feelfree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <p06230908bfe6eb1e8f1a@[63.138.152.210]>

At 10:21 AM +0100 1/7/06, cedric wrote:
>Hi Stephen,
>
>Did you change anything in config/routes.rb ?

No I didn't.
-- 

-- Stephen Bannasch, stephen at deanbrook dot org

From trejkaz at trypticon.org  Sun Jan  8 22:25:40 2006
From: trejkaz at trypticon.org (Trejkaz)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 14:25:40 +1100 (EST)
Subject: [typo] OpenID authenticated comments
In-Reply-To: <9674d5350601072159w16744eecra3b768cf24448aeb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9674d5350601072159w16744eecra3b768cf24448aeb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2625.203.217.22.128.1136777140.squirrel@home.trypticon.org>

> 4) Configuration options
> Should OpenID authentication be toggleable for comments?  Etc...

I think so.  I also think that it should be made possible to plug in other
authentication systems, such as [Passel][1], if nice Ruby libraries become
available in the future and browsers start implementing clients for it.

I'm really excited about getting OpenID in Typo, though.  It's a nice
start to the open identity problem, even _if_ it only authenticates a
user's home URL.  We can always look at the linked FOAF on the user's URL
to find their Jabber ID anyway, right? :-)

TX

[1]: http://www.passel.org/trac.cgi



From gpsnospam at gmail.com  Mon Jan  9 09:32:28 2006
From: gpsnospam at gmail.com (Gary Shewan)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 14:32:28 +0000
Subject: [typo] How to find out what changes in each trunk release
Message-ID: <95304DBC-475A-486F-A05B-0FBA352BF2C9@gmail.com>

I should really make a note from the admin UI what has changed when I  
do a trunk jump, but (saving me a grep) is it stored in one of the  
files in /migrate so I can check what's updated at any time?

Cheers

Gary
------
gpshewan.com


From scott at sigkill.org  Mon Jan  9 10:29:58 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 07:29:58 -0800
Subject: [typo] How to find out what changes in each trunk release
In-Reply-To: <95304DBC-475A-486F-A05B-0FBA352BF2C9@gmail.com>
References: <95304DBC-475A-486F-A05B-0FBA352BF2C9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74CB109F-0503-4C24-ACC6-F97F4C0C9563@sigkill.org>


On Jan 9, 2006, at 6:32 AM, Gary Shewan wrote:

> I should really make a note from the admin UI what has changed when I
> do a trunk jump, but (saving me a grep) is it stored in one of the
> files in /migrate so I can check what's updated at any time?

The files in dm/migrate describe the database changes made, but  
that's probably not what you're looking for.  The best source for  
this information are the change messages attached to each commit.   
Look at the timeline on the Trac site for a web-based overview, or  
use 'svn log'.


Scott

From nikanorov at gmail.com  Mon Jan  9 10:37:38 2006
From: nikanorov at gmail.com (Andrey Nikanorov)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 18:37:38 +0300
Subject: [typo] How to find out what changes in each trunk release
In-Reply-To: <95304DBC-475A-486F-A05B-0FBA352BF2C9@gmail.com>
References: <95304DBC-475A-486F-A05B-0FBA352BF2C9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a0c35bf80601090737r6224456ft680148a18049675d@mail.gmail.com>

http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/log/

On 1/9/06, Gary Shewan <gpsnospam at gmail.com> wrote:
> I should really make a note from the admin UI what has changed when I
> do a trunk jump, but (saving me a grep) is it stored in one of the
> files in /migrate so I can check what's updated at any time?
>
> Cheers
>
> Gary
> ------
> gpshewan.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>


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From gpsnospam at gmail.com  Mon Jan  9 10:44:11 2006
From: gpsnospam at gmail.com (Gary Shewan)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 15:44:11 +0000
Subject: [typo] How to find out what changes in each trunk release
In-Reply-To: <74CB109F-0503-4C24-ACC6-F97F4C0C9563@sigkill.org>
References: <95304DBC-475A-486F-A05B-0FBA352BF2C9@gmail.com>
	<74CB109F-0503-4C24-ACC6-F97F4C0C9563@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <D337C1D0-4F94-4D77-8044-1D9CEA3C6203@gmail.com>

Actually, if I think about it, taking a look at the files in db/ 
migrate I can pick out the major changes that have taken place if I  
wanted to list the enhancements.  I pull the recent change feed from  
Trac and that's the same info as looking at svn log.  Just that the  
changes are presented well in the admin migration UI and wondered if  
there was an easy way to recreate that after migration.

Jumped from r762 to r822 so there were a lot of changes included :)

On 9 Jan 2006, at 15:29, Scott Laird wrote:

>
> On Jan 9, 2006, at 6:32 AM, Gary Shewan wrote:
>
>> I should really make a note from the admin UI what has changed when I
>> do a trunk jump, but (saving me a grep) is it stored in one of the
>> files in /migrate so I can check what's updated at any time?
>
> The files in dm/migrate describe the database changes made, but
> that's probably not what you're looking for.  The best source for
> this information are the change messages attached to each commit.
> Look at the timeline on the Trac site for a web-based overview, or
> use 'svn log'.
>
>
> Scott
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From brianellin at gmail.com  Mon Jan  9 16:45:13 2006
From: brianellin at gmail.com (Brian Ellin)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 13:45:13 -0800
Subject: [typo] OpenID authenticated comments
In-Reply-To: <40fe71380601072356p6a3b793dhaefbec16a58beb16@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9674d5350601072159w16744eecra3b768cf24448aeb@mail.gmail.com>
	<40fe71380601072356p6a3b793dhaefbec16a58beb16@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9674d5350601091345y5f97dbddmd0b05e3803d2d729@mail.gmail.com>

Patrick,

On 1/7/06, Patrick Lenz <patrick at lenz.sh> wrote:
>
> Brian,
>
> a couple of remarks:
>
> It's great to see progress on authentication systems integration for
> typo. However, this should never replace simple and anonymous comments
> on any blog. It should be completely optional.


I agree with you.  Authenticated comments should be optional, and should
exist alongside simple anonymous comments.  It should be up to the blog
owner to decide which commenting systems they'd like to use, potentially a
mix where those with OpenID may auth, and others may leave anonymous
comments.


> It also shouldn't require us to get rid of AJAX comments. Although
> we've had many griefs with it in the past, it's still kind of a unique
> feature that sets us apart from the competition. We should still be
> able to make the redirects work through Javascript (similar to what
> Google does with its services right now where you sign in with your
> Google account, get a little read 'Loading..' in the upper right
> corner and are then redirected to the final, authenticated service
> page).


Agreed.  I don't want to get rid of AJAX comment system (it is cool!), but
just need to be able to intercept the redirect response and use Javascript
to redirect the browser.


Putting the Open ID token in the session will be a bit of work as with
> statically cached pages the session is not available up front.
> However, we could even resort to having it pre-filled in a form with
> an Ajax callback if you've commented before.


I'll have to read more about this.  Are there any docs on how/when typo does
static content?

Thanks,

Brian Ellin
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From trejkaz at trypticon.org  Mon Jan  9 18:41:26 2006
From: trejkaz at trypticon.org (Trejkaz)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:41:26 +1100 (EST)
Subject: [typo] Jabber notification: possible fix for my issue
Message-ID: <1499.203.217.22.128.1136850086.squirrel@home.trypticon.org>

Aha.  Okay, I have some progress:

    trejkaz at morden> script/console
    Loading development environment.
    >> Jabber::JID.new("typo at trypticon.org/typo")
    => #<Jabber::JID:0xb764d22c @resource="typo", @host="trypticon.org",
                                @node="typo">
    >> me = User.find_all[0]
    => [snip]
    >> JabberNotify.send_message(me, "test", "Test body", "")
    ** Sending Test body to trejkaz at trypticon.org via jabber.
    => nil
    >> Jabber::JID.new("typo at trypticon.org/typo")
    => #<Jabber::JID:0xb764d22c @resource="typo", @domain="trypticon.org",
                                @node="typo">
    >> ^D

The code inside Jabber4R's Jabber::Session is expecting to call
"jid.host", and looking at this console log it might be a bit mystifying
because it looks like the wrong class is being created the second time. 
And that's exactly what's happening. :-)

Typo includes Jabber4R, which has JID#host.
In my main Ruby libraries I have installed XMPP4R (slightly newer), which
has JID#domain.

So at some point, Rails is using voodoo to auto-require XMPP4R even though
Jabber::JID is already loaded from Jabber4R.

Is there any easy way to bypass this sort of thing that doesn't involve me
uninstalling XMPP4R?  I suppose I could always modify Typo to use the
newer library and then submit the diff...

TX



From patrick at lenz.sh  Tue Jan 10 02:31:51 2006
From: patrick at lenz.sh (Patrick Lenz)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:31:51 +0100
Subject: [typo] OpenID authenticated comments
In-Reply-To: <9674d5350601091345y5f97dbddmd0b05e3803d2d729@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9674d5350601072159w16744eecra3b768cf24448aeb@mail.gmail.com>
	<40fe71380601072356p6a3b793dhaefbec16a58beb16@mail.gmail.com>
	<9674d5350601091345y5f97dbddmd0b05e3803d2d729@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <95EEFF93-6784-4852-A715-61A201BEA778@lenz.sh>

Brian,

> I'll have to read more about this.  Are there any docs on how/when  
> typo does static content?

Actually, everything in the public space is preferably cached to  
disk. The only exception being paginated pages where only the first  
is being cached because of Rails' limitations regarding the cache  
file naming in Page Caching mode.

-- 
Patrick Lenz (scoop)

http://poocs.net/              # Personal Weblog
http://limited-overload.de/    # Web application development
http://freshmeat.net/          # Free software archive
http://topmedia.de/            # IT Storage Solutions
http://eins.de/                # Community portal network




From peter.j.donald at gmail.com  Tue Jan 10 06:13:01 2006
From: peter.j.donald at gmail.com (Peter Donald)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:13:01 +1100
Subject: [typo] Boolean change for Postgres
Message-ID: <125c0c0d0601100313w187fdecfw851a451b746e22e8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

There is a minor modification required for non-mysql databases.

components/plugins/sidebars/archives_controller.rb
@@ -14,7 +14,7 @@
   def content
     @archives = Hash.new

-    Article.find(:all, :conditions => 'published != 0', :order =>
'created_at DESC').each do |a|
+    Article.find(:all, :conditions => ['published != ?', false],
:order => 'created_at DESC').each do |a|
       index = a.created_at.strftime("%Y-%m").to_sym

       if @archives[index].nil?

--
Cheers,

Peter Donald


From luzyde at gmail.com  Wed Jan 11 05:50:22 2006
From: luzyde at gmail.com (Jose Molins)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:50:22 +0100
Subject: [typo] Browsing the blog
Message-ID: <13471fba0601110250r6928fdfak1771517df4043422@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I am using the Typo installation that is bundled with InstantRails.
Everything is working fine. I am able to log into the admin part of Typo,
adding articles, etc.
My problem is when I want to browse the blog as a normal internet user from
the same machine. I am always redirected to the admininstration of Typo.
I have tried  http://typo/articles since the articles controller exists and
has an index method, but I am also routed to the admin.
Is there a way to browse the blog content?
Regards
Jose
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From arvind at grovernetwork.com  Wed Jan 11 08:50:40 2006
From: arvind at grovernetwork.com (arvind s grover)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:50:40 -0500
Subject: [typo] trackbacks not working
Message-ID: <43C50D30.6090404@grovernetwork.com>

Trackbacks are not working on my site: http://www.21apples.org

I am not sure how to go about debugging this problem. I added trackback 
pings from other weblogs that I have, and articles still show up with 0 
trackbacks.

How can I troubleshoot this?

From luzyde at gmail.com  Wed Jan 11 09:24:14 2006
From: luzyde at gmail.com (Jose Molins)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:24:14 +0100
Subject: [typo] Browsing the blog
In-Reply-To: <13471fba0601110250r6928fdfak1771517df4043422@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13471fba0601110250r6928fdfak1771517df4043422@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13471fba0601110624t3a24aea3m3e4cf8543af00d59@mail.gmail.com>

It is fixed now.
I kept having the login screen. But after saving the settings of the blog i
did not receive the login screen any more.
Regards
Jose

On 1/11/06, Jose Molins <luzyde at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I am using the Typo installation that is bundled with InstantRails.
> Everything is working fine. I am able to log into the admin part of Typo,
> adding articles, etc.
> My problem is when I want to browse the blog as a normal internet user
> from the same machine. I am always redirected to the admininstration of
> Typo.
> I have tried  http://typo/articles since the articles controller exists
> and has an index method, but I am also routed to the admin.
> Is there a way to browse the blog content?
> Regards
> Jose
>
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From leon at barrettnexus.com  Thu Jan 12 01:09:41 2006
From: leon at barrettnexus.com (Leon Barrett)
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:09:41 -0800
Subject: [typo] Post "created_at" time is wrong
Message-ID: <1137046181.29120.8.camel@caesar>

When I create new articles in Typo, the created_at time is the time when
the fastcgi process was started, rather than the time when the post was
created.  The updated_at time is correct, however.  Can someone help me
fix this?  I know I can set the created_at time in the article-creation
page, but I'm managing this weblog for someone else, and I'd like it to
be as easy as possible.

I looked at the database (postgresql 7.4), and this does not seem to be
a database problem.  When I create a new article using the database
directly, using the default created_at value (now()), then the
created_at time is correct.  Furthermore, then the seconds and
microseconds values are set to the current time; however, the created_at
date set when I post an article has the seconds and microseconds set to
0.

I am using Typo 2.6.0 and Ruby 1.8.2.  Below, I enclose the output of
'gem list', which shows all the gems I have installed.  I think all the
libraries Typo depends on are up to date.

Thank you very much.


*** LOCAL GEMS ***

actionmailer (1.1.5, 1.1.1, 0.6.1)
    Service layer for easy email delivery and testing.

actionpack (1.11.2, 1.10.1, 1.3.1)
    Web-flow and rendering framework putting the VC in MVC.

actionwebservice (1.0.0, 0.9.1)
    Web service support for Action Pack.

activerecord (1.13.2, 1.12.1, 1.5.1)
    Implements the ActiveRecord pattern for ORM.

activesupport (1.2.5, 1.2.1)
    Support and utility classes used by the Rails framework.

acts_as_taggable (1.0.4)
    An acts-as Mixin for easy applying and searching tags/folksnomies on
    Active Record objects

BlueCloth (1.0.0)
    BlueCloth is a Ruby implementation of Markdown, a text-to-HTML
    conversion tool for web writers. Markdown allows you to write using
    an easy-to-read, easy-to-write plain text format, then convert it to
    structurally valid XHTML (or HTML).

cmdparse (2.0.0)
    Advanced command line parser supporting commands

daemons (0.4.2)
    A toolkit to create and control daemons in different ways

facets (2005.10.30)
    The proverbial Zoo-of-More for Ruby

fcgi (0.8.6.1)
    FastCGI ruby binding.

gen (0.26.0, 0.25.0)
    A simple code generation system.

glue (0.26.0, 0.25.0)
    Utility methods and classes for Nitro.

iterator (0.8)
    bidirectional external iterators

jabber4r (0.8.0, 0.7.0)
    Jabber4r is a pure-Ruby Jabber client library

needle (1.3.0, 1.2.1)
    Needle is a Dependency Injection/Inversion of Control container for
    Ruby. It supports both type-2 (setter) and type-3 (constructor)
    injection. It takes advantage of the dynamic nature of Ruby to
    provide a rich and flexible approach to injecting dependencies.

net-sftp (1.1.0, 1.0.1)
    Net::SFTP is a pure-Ruby implementation of the SFTP client protocol.

net-ssh (1.0.5, 1.0.3)
    Net::SSH is a pure-Ruby implementation of the SSH2 client protocol.

nitro (0.26.0, 0.25.0)
    Everything you need to create Web 2.0 applications with Ruby and
    Javascript

og (0.26.0, 0.25.0)
    State of the art object-relational mapping system.

Platform (0.4.0)
    Hopefully robust platform sensing

postgres (0.7.1)
    The extension library to access a PostgreSQL database from Ruby.

rails (1.0.0, 0.14.1, 0.9.4.1)
    Web-application framework with template engine, control-flow layer,
    and ORM.

rake (0.6.2, 0.4.15)
    Ruby based make-like utility.

RedCloth (3.0.4, 3.0.3)
    RedCloth is a module for using Textile and Markdown in Ruby. Textile
    and Markdown are text formats.  A very simple text format. Another
    stab at making readable text that can be converted to HTML.

RGnuchess (0.1.0)
    An interface for working with gnuchess, providing some basic chess
    tools.

rrename (0.3.0, 0.2.0)
    A GNOME2 based tool for interactively renameing files  with regular
    expressions.

ruby-breakpoint (0.5.0)
    ruby-breakpoint lets you inspect and modify state at run time.

sources (0.0.1)
    This package provides download sources for remote gem installation

term-ansicolor (1.0.2, 1.0.1)
    Ruby library that colors strings using ANSI escape sequences

-- 
Leon Barrett
http://icsi.berkeley.edu/~barrett/
barrett at icsi.berkeley.edu
510-665-5428
1932 Hearst Ave. Apt. F
Berkeley, CA 94709
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From rasputnik at gmail.com  Thu Jan 12 05:04:47 2006
From: rasputnik at gmail.com (Dick Davies)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:04:47 +0000
Subject: [typo] Post "created_at" time is wrong
In-Reply-To: <1137046181.29120.8.camel@caesar>
References: <1137046181.29120.8.camel@caesar>
Message-ID: <3f1760601120204n2cd7065fh@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/01/06, Leon Barrett <leon at barrettnexus.com> wrote:
> When I create new articles in Typo, the created_at time is the time when
> the fastcgi process was started, rather than the time when the post was
> created.  The updated_at time is correct, however.  Can someone help me
> fix this?  I know I can set the created_at time in the article-creation
> page, but I'm managing this weblog for someone else, and I'd like it to
> be as easy as possible.

> I am using Typo 2.6.0 and Ruby 1.8.2.

I get the same thing with 2.6.0 on Textdrive
(who run ruby 1.8.2 and pg 8 i think)


--
Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns
http://number9.hellooperator.net/


From chris at seagul.co.uk  Thu Jan 12 07:53:49 2006
From: chris at seagul.co.uk (Chris Roos)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:53:49 +0000
Subject: [typo] pings (xml rpc), trackbacks and patch 526
Message-ID: <43C6515D.5050007@seagul.co.uk>

I've recently become interested in pinging aggregators (technorati et
al) when content is updated.

I'm aware of the 'auto-ping' section in the admin interface and always
assumed that this was happily pinging the aggregators as new articles
were added...

However, as the original post in patch 526[1] states, this is not the case.

Basically, the method used (Ping#ping) is sending trackbacks not pings.

As per the last comment added to that ticket, I don't think the patch is
correct as it actually replaces the trackback functionality rather than
add's ping to it.

I'm planning to take a look this weekend at something more fully fleshed
but would appreciate any comments (on this mail or comments on the
ticket), especially if I'm not making any sense (not unlikely)..

Cheers,

Chris

[1] http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/526


From scott at sigkill.org  Thu Jan 12 09:11:09 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 06:11:09 -0800
Subject: [typo] pings (xml rpc), trackbacks and patch 526
In-Reply-To: <43C6515D.5050007@seagul.co.uk>
References: <43C6515D.5050007@seagul.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4706D8D8-276B-4052-80FF-4C8FF68FEF88@sigkill.org>


On Jan 12, 2006, at 4:53 AM, Chris Roos wrote:

> I've recently become interested in pinging aggregators (technorati et
> al) when content is updated.
>
> I'm aware of the 'auto-ping' section in the admin interface and always
> assumed that this was happily pinging the aggregators as new articles
> were added...
>
> However, as the original post in patch 526[1] states, this is not  
> the case.
>
> Basically, the method used (Ping#ping) is sending trackbacks not  
> pings.
>
> As per the last comment added to that ticket, I don't think the  
> patch is
> correct as it actually replaces the trackback functionality rather  
> than
> add's ping to it.
>
> I'm planning to take a look this weekend at something more fully  
> fleshed
> but would appreciate any comments (on this mail or comments on the
> ticket), especially if I'm not making any sense (not unlikely)..

That be great.  Typo's current trackback support is almost but not  
quite completely broken; it'd be great to have a working implementation.


Scott

From victor-typo at carotena.net  Thu Jan 12 15:32:14 2006
From: victor-typo at carotena.net (Victor Jalencas)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:32:14 +0100
Subject: [typo] SVK Howto?
Message-ID: <43C6BCCE.4060809@carotena.net>

Hi,

  Can anyone post some quick instructions on how to use SVK mirroring 
capability so that I am able to have a mirror of the typo SVN tree 
locally, so that I can commit my changes to the mirror, and can also 
update the mirror from the 'official' SVN repo and prepare patches with 
my changes that can be correctly applied?

  I've tried to grok the SVK docs but the naming conventions changes are 
driving me mad.

TIA

Victor

From scott at sigkill.org  Thu Jan 12 15:44:03 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:44:03 -0800
Subject: [typo] SVK Howto?
In-Reply-To: <43C6BCCE.4060809@carotena.net>
References: <43C6BCCE.4060809@carotena.net>
Message-ID: <0F6E916F-9089-4B19-BEB5-22A531A25C89@sigkill.org>

I wrote http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/07/07/distributed- 
development-with-svk; in general Google returns quite a few results  
for "typo svk".


Scott

On Jan 12, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Victor Jalencas wrote:

> Hi,
>
>   Can anyone post some quick instructions on how to use SVK mirroring
> capability so that I am able to have a mirror of the typo SVN tree
> locally, so that I can commit my changes to the mirror, and can also
> update the mirror from the 'official' SVN repo and prepare patches  
> with
> my changes that can be correctly applied?
>
>   I've tried to grok the SVK docs but the naming conventions  
> changes are
> driving me mad.
>
> TIA
>
> Victor
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Thu Jan 12 18:04:59 2006
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 23:04:59 +0000
Subject: [typo] Tomorrow shall be my typo day
Message-ID: <m2mzi1ujxg.fsf@obelisk.bofh.org.uk>

Right, I've got a day's Typo hacking lined up for tomorrow. My plan,
such as it is, is to sort out cache tracking -- an afternoon spike I
did a week or so ago looks promising so I hope that a day's work
should lead to something well tested that should continue to work if
we switch to fragment caching.

I've also been thinking about 'deferred' sidebars using object tags
rather than AJAX to fetch sidebar content that changes at a different
rate to the main page, but that's probably for the future.

Pipe up if you reckon there's something more pressing I should be
working on. (I intend to go through the outstanding patch list as well
-- I doubt I'll be applying much, but I hope to be able to provide
some feedback)

-- 
Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
http://www.bofh.org.uk/

From scott at sigkill.org  Thu Jan 12 19:29:07 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:29:07 -0800
Subject: [typo] Tomorrow shall be my typo day
In-Reply-To: <m2mzi1ujxg.fsf@obelisk.bofh.org.uk>
References: <m2mzi1ujxg.fsf@obelisk.bofh.org.uk>
Message-ID: <83DDD144-DD5C-4783-97FB-D1630BF8E8DF@sigkill.org>

Cache tracking sounds great.  I'd *love* to have a better sweeper.

I really need to dust off my time-limited fragment cache code and  
check it in; that would solve a lot of sidebar-related problems  
without doing anything really invasive.  Each request would set an  
expiration time, the cache would behave like expired cache entries  
don't exist, forcing a rebuild of the page.  I doubt that's more then  
a few hours' work, I'll try to finish it up and check it in sometime  
within the next week or so.


Scott

On Jan 12, 2006, at 3:04 PM, Piers Cawley wrote:

> Right, I've got a day's Typo hacking lined up for tomorrow. My plan,
> such as it is, is to sort out cache tracking -- an afternoon spike I
> did a week or so ago looks promising so I hope that a day's work
> should lead to something well tested that should continue to work if
> we switch to fragment caching.
>
> I've also been thinking about 'deferred' sidebars using object tags
> rather than AJAX to fetch sidebar content that changes at a different
> rate to the main page, but that's probably for the future.
>
> Pipe up if you reckon there's something more pressing I should be
> working on. (I intend to go through the outstanding patch list as well
> -- I doubt I'll be applying much, but I hope to be able to provide
> some feedback)
>
> -- 
> Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
> http://www.bofh.org.uk/
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From bart.braem at gmail.com  Fri Jan 13 02:48:58 2006
From: bart.braem at gmail.com (Bart Braem)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:48:58 +0100
Subject: [typo] After server reboot no pages generated any more
Message-ID: <b9bd37fd0601122348w5b2ed0a7g6ae821efafa24493@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

We had to reboot our server, which runs two typo blogs, and the blogs
don't work any more. The admin part gives a 404, as does every
dynamically generated page. Any ideas on how this can be resolved?

Thanks for a great blog and sorry for all the help requests,
Bart
--
"May the source be with you"


From eliot at landrum.cx  Fri Jan 13 10:22:29 2006
From: eliot at landrum.cx (Eliot Landrum)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:22:29 -0600
Subject: [typo] After server reboot no pages generated any more
In-Reply-To: <b9bd37fd0601122348w5b2ed0a7g6ae821efafa24493@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b9bd37fd0601122348w5b2ed0a7g6ae821efafa24493@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d39f60c90601130722j25be4e28t57e937a529efd9fd@mail.gmail.com>

Are you running lighttpd? Don't forget to restart it...

On 1/13/06, Bart Braem <bart.braem at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> We had to reboot our server, which runs two typo blogs, and the blogs
> don't work any more. The admin part gives a 404, as does every
> dynamically generated page. Any ideas on how this can be resolved?
>
> Thanks for a great blog and sorry for all the help requests,
> Bart
> --
> "May the source be with you"
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>



--
Eliot Landrum
eliot at landrum.cx
http://eegah.us
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From bart.braem at gmail.com  Fri Jan 13 10:34:44 2006
From: bart.braem at gmail.com (Bart Braem)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:34:44 +0100
Subject: [typo] After server reboot no pages generated any more
In-Reply-To: <d39f60c90601130722j25be4e28t57e937a529efd9fd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b9bd37fd0601122348w5b2ed0a7g6ae821efafa24493@mail.gmail.com>
	<d39f60c90601130722j25be4e28t57e937a529efd9fd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b9bd37fd0601130734g4325ad20x38ba8fd5d302b981@mail.gmail.com>

I have found some errors in fastcgi.crash.log:
Dispatcher failed to catch:  (Interrupt)
  /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/fcgi-0.8.6.1/./fcgi.rb:597:in `each'
  /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/fcgi-0.8.6.1/./fcgi.rb:597:in `each_cgi'
  /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-0.14.3/lib/fcgi_handler.rb:52:in `process!'
  /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-0.14.3/lib/fcgi_handler.rb:22:in `process!'
  public/dispatch.fcgi:24
killed by this error
[13/Jan/2006:16:27:40 :: 12416] asked to terminate immediately
[13/Jan/2006:16:27:46 :: 14501] starting

I have found absolutely no solutions to this problem so far. Any suggestions?

Thanks for your help
Bart

On 1/13/06, Eliot Landrum <eliot at landrum.cx> wrote:
> Are you running lighttpd? Don't forget to restart it...
>
>
> On 1/13/06, Bart Braem <bart.braem at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > We had to reboot our server, which runs two typo blogs, and the blogs
> > don't work any more. The admin part gives a 404, as does every
> > dynamically generated page. Any ideas on how this can be resolved?
> >
> > Thanks for a great blog and sorry for all the help requests,
> > Bart
> > --
> > "May the source be with you"
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Typo-list mailing list
> > Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Eliot Landrum
> eliot at landrum.cx
> http://eegah.us
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
>


--
"May the source be with you"


From chris at codeintensity.com  Fri Jan 13 15:49:52 2006
From: chris at codeintensity.com (Chris Bailey)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:49:52 -0800
Subject: [typo] Ecto not working for me - can't post, need help
In-Reply-To: <3c7afabe0512310826t6f4ae7dcoaade9db994f5f64c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3c7afabe0512302057t5fb8e9dh8d3e7907fd0c8d3b@mail.gmail.com>
	<3c7afabe0512302108j1b066545ub005ab1aa90360ee@mail.gmail.com>
	<32390EE4-EB86-45C8-9C7E-DE00AEBB6B16@sigkill.org>
	<3c7afabe0512310826t6f4ae7dcoaade9db994f5f64c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3c7afabe0601131249p1b37952fgbd6aee40face6c6d@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, I finally fixed this, and it *may* point out a bug, or what I'd
really say, a need for an additional safeguard.  The problem I'd had,
as seen below, is that my migrate hadn't gone well, and I was left
with various articles having null guid values.  Scott suggested
iterating them and re-saving as seen below.  But, that didn't work.
However, I only needed to slightly modify that.  Looking at the code
pointed out how to do this :)  So, I simply did this:

      Article.find(:all).each do |a|
         if a.guid.blank?
           a.guid = UUID.random_create.to_s
           a.save
         end
      end

What I saw in the code was that the guid is generated only when the
entry is created (via :before_create).  So, it seems like it might be
useful to have a similar check as above, for saving/update, to ensure
the guid isn't empty.  Theoretically that shouldn't happen, but might
not be a bad safeguard.

On 12/31/05, Chris Bailey <chris at codeintensity.com> wrote:
> On 12/31/05, Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Dec 30, 2005, at 9:08 PM, Chris Bailey wrote:
> >
> > > My apologies for the premature send.  I now/also tried posting from
> > > the web admin interface of typo, and got an error:
> > >
> > >   1 error prohibited this article from being saved
> > >   There were problems with the following fields:
> > >   Guid has already been taken
> > >
> > > I have recently done some big upgrades/migrates (was on 47x now on
> > > 801), and had some trouble along the way.  I thought everything was
> > > fixed up, but obviously not.  I see that this has been brought up
> > > somewhat recently (Nov 30) on the list
> > > (http://www.mail-archive.com/typo-list at rubyforge.org/msg01069.html),
> > > but there was no reply.  Tom or anyone, was there a resolution?
> >
> > Try this from ./script/console:
> >
> >    Article.find(:all).each do |a|
> >      a.save if a.guid.blank?
> >    end
> >
>
> That didn't fix it (it did seem to echo each entry out to the console
> though).   I checked the DB and the guid column for for the content
> table has most entries still null.
>
> Also, I have a completely empty articles table, is that right?
>


--
Chris Bailey
chris.bailey at gmail.com


From chris at seagul.co.uk  Sat Jan 14 05:43:13 2006
From: chris at seagul.co.uk (Chris Roos)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:43:13 +0000
Subject: [typo] trackbacks not working
Message-ID: <43C8D5C1.6020905@seagul.co.uk>

To continue this[1] online.

Which weblog software are you using to send (the non appearing) 
trackbacks to 21apples?

Can you confirm that you are sending the trackbacks to the 
/trackback/:article_id url on 21apples?

Chris

[1] http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/650

From chris at seagul.co.uk  Sat Jan 14 05:43:49 2006
From: chris at seagul.co.uk (Chris Roos)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:43:49 +0000
Subject: [typo] pings (xml rpc), trackbacks and patch 526
In-Reply-To: <4706D8D8-276B-4052-80FF-4C8FF68FEF88@sigkill.org>
References: <43C6515D.5050007@seagul.co.uk>
	<4706D8D8-276B-4052-80FF-4C8FF68FEF88@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <43C8D5E5.4010106@seagul.co.uk>

Scott Laird wrote:
> On Jan 12, 2006, at 4:53 AM, Chris Roos wrote:
> 
>> I've recently become interested in pinging aggregators (technorati et
>> al) when content is updated.
>>
>> I'm aware of the 'auto-ping' section in the admin interface and always
>> assumed that this was happily pinging the aggregators as new articles
>> were added...
>>
>> However, as the original post in patch 526[1] states, this is not  
>> the case.
>>
>> Basically, the method used (Ping#ping) is sending trackbacks not  
>> pings.
>>
>> As per the last comment added to that ticket, I don't think the  
>> patch is
>> correct as it actually replaces the trackback functionality rather  
>> than
>> add's ping to it.
>>
>> I'm planning to take a look this weekend at something more fully  
>> fleshed
>> but would appreciate any comments (on this mail or comments on the
>> ticket), especially if I'm not making any sense (not unlikely)..
> 
> That be great.  Typo's current trackback support is almost but not  
> quite completely broken; it'd be great to have a working implementation.
> 
I took some time looking at typo yesterday to see what we already had 
and what needed to be done.  I think this list describes where we're at.

* We can consume trackbacks correctly, when they are sent to the correct 
url (/trackback/:article_id).  However, it would appear they are not 
displayed correctly - using only the path part of the url means that the 
links are actually to the site that was send the trackback rather than 
the site that sent the trackback.

* We can send trackbacks correctly, to an address that accepts 
trackbacks in the correct format[1].

* We don't support sending pings (xmlrpc weblogUpdates.ping[2]) to blog 
aggregators to notify them that content has been updated.

* Although we try to send trackbacks to url's linked to in articles 
(providing the relevant setting is checked) we don't make any attempt to 
check that the url's accept trackbacks, most of which will not as they 
are locations of articles not the location of the trackback for that 
article.

I'd suggest that we need to do the following in order to get this sorted.

* Make the distinction between sending a trackback from an article to 
another and pinging an aggregator to notify them that content has 
updated.  Although they can potentially use the same implementation 
(lots of articles on the web still mention using trackbacks to notify 
aggregators, where most of the aggregators seem to expect 
weblogsUpdates.ping), I think it's important to make the distinction in 
our understanding.

* Properly support sending pings to aggregators.
** This should be separated in the admin interface from the trackbacks, 
and provide the ability to list url's that accept pings (much as the 
default 'automatically ping these..' list provides now.

* Remove the functionality that automatically pings urls linked to in 
articles (I feel that this is pretty irrelevant in the majority of cases).

* Add the ability to enter a list of trackback url's on article 
creation.  The actual trackback locations can then be entered for any 
links you may have made in the article.

* Add the ability to auto-discover trackbacks in articles that are 
linked to in an article (idea from [3]).

I think this kinda gives us everything that the current typo pertains to 
support.

In my reading yesterday I came across the term pingback.  I still don't 
100% understand what this is so if anyone can enlighten and suggest why 
we might [not] need to support this that'd be great.

Any advances or shall I start implementing these changes (hopefully at 
some point this weekend)?

Chris

[1] http://www.sixapart.com/pronet/docs/trackback_spec
[2] http://www.xmlrpc.com/weblogscom
[3] http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/wiki/TypoWishlist

From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Sat Jan 14 08:20:29 2006
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:20:29 +0000
Subject: [typo] Changeset 828
Message-ID: <m2ek3b0wv6.fsf@obelisk.bofh.org.uk>

Kevin just added a changeset that is claimed to fix
'test_comment_xss1', but which actually breaks it on my server. 

Kevin, do you have a gem installation of redcloth by any chance? If
so, which version.

-- 
Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
http://www.bofh.org.uk/

From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Sat Jan 14 08:34:52 2006
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:34:52 +0000
Subject: [typo] Changeset 830, abstemious cache sweeping
Message-ID: <m2acdz0w77.fsf@obelisk.bofh.org.uk>

In case anyone's wondering what the new BlogSweeper#expire_siblings_of
method is supposed to be doing, be aware that, right now, it's a
stub. The idea is that, when an article is created or deleted, all the
paginated sets in which the article could appear need to be
flushed.

Right now, the flushing logic is slightly broken; when you modify an
article and change either its tags or its categories, a safe strategy
is to sweep the entire cache, but we aren't quite doing that. However,
if I don't finish typing this and step away from the keyboard for at
least the next few hours, my life will not be worth living, so feel
free to fix things :)

-- 
Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
http://www.bofh.org.uk/

From kevin at sb.org  Sun Jan 15 19:50:54 2006
From: kevin at sb.org (Kevin Ballard)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:50:54 -0800
Subject: [typo] Changes to Textfilters and Theme layouts
Message-ID: <4C2FDFFF-34D3-4279-A76A-C865BC713299@sb.org>

Anybody who wrote their own textfilter or their own theme should  
probably read the changeset commit message for <http:// 
typo.leetsoft.com/trac/changeset/848>. The reason being I added an  
extra argument to Textfilter calls and a new helper method that all  
themes should use in their <head> tag. If you're a theme writer all  
you probably need to do is look at the azure diff, <http:// 
typo.leetsoft.com/trac/changeset/848#file24>, and if you're a  
Textfilter writer looking at any of the textfilter diffs like <http:// 
typo.leetsoft.com/trac/changeset/848#file8> is enough to make your  
custom Textfilter work, but if you're interested in the new  
capabilities you should read the whole message and look at the new  
Lightbox controller <http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/browser/trunk/ 
components/plugins/textfilters/lightbox_controller.rb?rev=848>.

-- 
Kevin Ballard
kevin at sb.org
http://www.tildesoft.com
http://kevin.sb.org

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From eliot at landrum.cx  Mon Jan 16 00:15:40 2006
From: eliot at landrum.cx (Eliot Landrum)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:15:40 -0600
Subject: [typo] Changes to Textfilters and Theme layouts
In-Reply-To: <4C2FDFFF-34D3-4279-A76A-C865BC713299@sb.org>
References: <4C2FDFFF-34D3-4279-A76A-C865BC713299@sb.org>
Message-ID: <d39f60c90601152115r9a8a27fm2088bcba12785d86@mail.gmail.com>

Kevin -

I've modified my header to use FeedBurner feeds. If I change my theme to use
this new header, then I have to modify articles_helper.rb with my FeedBurner
URLs. Would it be of any value to have some sort of configurable feed field
in the options? I'm not a big fan of 100-million options for everyone's
situations, so that's why I ask if it is of any value. Should I just shut up
and modify articles_helper.rb?

On 1/15/06, Kevin Ballard <kevin at sb.org> wrote:
>
> Anybody who wrote their own textfilter or their own theme should
> probably read the changeset commit message for <http://
> typo.leetsoft.com/trac/changeset/848>. The reason being I added an
> extra argument to Textfilter calls and a new helper method that all
> themes should use in their <head> tag. If you're a theme writer all
> you probably need to do is look at the azure diff, <http://
> typo.leetsoft.com/trac/changeset/848#file24>, and if you're a
> Textfilter writer looking at any of the textfilter diffs like <http://
> typo.leetsoft.com/trac/changeset/848#file8> is enough to make your
> custom Textfilter work, but if you're interested in the new
> capabilities you should read the whole message and look at the new
> Lightbox controller <http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/browser/trunk/
> components/plugins/textfilters/lightbox_controller.rb?rev=848>.
>
> --
> Kevin Ballard
> kevin at sb.org
> http://www.tildesoft.com
> http://kevin.sb.org
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
>
>


--
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eliot at landrum.cx
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From kevin at sb.org  Mon Jan 16 00:54:02 2006
From: kevin at sb.org (Kevin Ballard)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:54:02 -0800
Subject: [typo] Changes to Textfilters and Theme layouts
In-Reply-To: <d39f60c90601152115r9a8a27fm2088bcba12785d86@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C2FDFFF-34D3-4279-A76A-C865BC713299@sb.org>
	<d39f60c90601152115r9a8a27fm2088bcba12785d86@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <687CBEFD-4091-44AE-B40D-24570B2A45B6@sb.org>

I guess it depends on how useful the option is. Quickest solution for  
you would be to modify articles_helper.rb, but maybe you should file  
a ticket about adding a preference and see if anybody else chimes in?

On Jan 15, 2006, at 9:15 PM, Eliot Landrum wrote:

> I've modified my header to use FeedBurner feeds. If I change my  
> theme to use this new header, then I have to modify  
> articles_helper.rb with my FeedBurner URLs. Would it be of any  
> value to have some sort of configurable feed field in the options?  
> I'm not a big fan of 100-million options for everyone's situations,  
> so that's why I ask if it is of any value. Should I just shut up  
> and modify articles_helper.rb?

-- 
Kevin Ballard
kevin at sb.org
http://www.tildesoft.com
http://kevin.sb.org

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From chris at seagul.co.uk  Mon Jan 16 04:55:18 2006
From: chris at seagul.co.uk (Chris Roos)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:55:18 +0000
Subject: [typo] trackbacks not working
In-Reply-To: <43C8D5C1.6020905@seagul.co.uk>
References: <43C8D5C1.6020905@seagul.co.uk>
Message-ID: <43CB6D86.3070501@seagul.co.uk>

Chris Roos wrote:
> To continue this[1] online.
> 
> Which weblog software are you using to send (the non appearing) 
> trackbacks to 21apples?
> 
> Can you confirm that you are sending the trackbacks to the 
> /trackback/:article_id url on 21apples?
> 
> Chris
> 
> [1] http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/650
> _______________________________________________

Hi,

I notice you've posted another comment to ticket #650.  I wonder if you 
could keep the conversation on the mailing list so that I don't have to 
follow progress on the web page.

A quick google earlier returned lots of results for people having 
problems sending trackbacks with WP2...

I wonder if you could try this tool[1] to send a trackback to your typo 
blog (21apples) and let me know whether or not it works.  If it works 
then I'd assume that the WP blogs were causing the problem.

Chris

[1] http://www.redalt.com/External/trackback.php

From scott at sigkill.org  Mon Jan 16 09:55:03 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:55:03 -0800
Subject: [typo] Changes to Textfilters and Theme layouts
In-Reply-To: <687CBEFD-4091-44AE-B40D-24570B2A45B6@sb.org>
References: <4C2FDFFF-34D3-4279-A76A-C865BC713299@sb.org>
	<d39f60c90601152115r9a8a27fm2088bcba12785d86@mail.gmail.com>
	<687CBEFD-4091-44AE-B40D-24570B2A45B6@sb.org>
Message-ID: <F8BF2BFB-B2C7-4BE5-83FD-6E3D7671374E@sigkill.org>

I haven't really looked at the new code, but how does this compare  
with the stock Rails register_javascript_include_default/ 
javascript_include_tag?


Scott

On Jan 15, 2006, at 9:54 PM, Kevin Ballard wrote:

> I guess it depends on how useful the option is. Quickest solution  
> for you would be to modify articles_helper.rb, but maybe you should  
> file a ticket about adding a preference and see if anybody else  
> chimes in?
>
> On Jan 15, 2006, at 9:15 PM, Eliot Landrum wrote:
>
>> I've modified my header to use FeedBurner feeds. If I change my  
>> theme to use this new header, then I have to modify  
>> articles_helper.rb with my FeedBurner URLs. Would it be of any  
>> value to have some sort of configurable feed field in the options?  
>> I'm not a big fan of 100-million options for everyone's  
>> situations, so that's why I ask if it is of any value. Should I  
>> just shut up and modify articles_helper.rb?
>
> -- 
> Kevin Ballard
> kevin at sb.org
> http://www.tildesoft.com
> http://kevin.sb.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From arvind at grovernetwork.com  Mon Jan 16 10:33:55 2006
From: arvind at grovernetwork.com (arvind s grover)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:33:55 -0500
Subject: [typo] trackbacks not working
In-Reply-To: <43CB6D86.3070501@seagul.co.uk>
References: <43C8D5C1.6020905@seagul.co.uk> <43CB6D86.3070501@seagul.co.uk>
Message-ID: <C1BD2D33-E514-4DC6-83C8-E7C938FA4086@grovernetwork.com>

wow, can't believe that was the problem. i tested from the redalt.com  
site and the trackback worked perfectly. i tried trackback pinging  
from a wordpress 2.0 site and a wordpress 1.5 site. i must have 2 bad  
installs! thanks again. i posted on the web so that others could  
follow the progress if they ran into the same problem.

thanks much chris.

On Jan 16, 2006, at 4:55 AM, Chris Roos wrote:

> Chris Roos wrote:
>
>> To continue this[1] online.
>> Which weblog software are you using to send (the non appearing)  
>> trackbacks to 21apples?
>> Can you confirm that you are sending the trackbacks to the / 
>> trackback/:article_id url on 21apples?
>> Chris
>> [1] http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/650
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> I notice you've posted another comment to ticket #650.  I wonder if  
> you could keep the conversation on the mailing list so that I don't  
> have to follow progress on the web page.
>
> A quick google earlier returned lots of results for people having  
> problems sending trackbacks with WP2...
>
> I wonder if you could try this tool[1] to send a trackback to your  
> typo blog (21apples) and let me know whether or not it works.  If  
> it works then I'd assume that the WP blogs were causing the problem.
>
> Chris
>
> [1] http://www.redalt.com/External/trackback.php
>


From minter at lunenburg.org  Mon Jan 16 13:01:29 2006
From: minter at lunenburg.org (H. Wade Minter)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:01:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [typo] Update to 849, sidebars break typo
Message-ID: <20060116125719.A15007@bunning.skiltech.com>

I ran a SVN update to release 849 today, and my blog started crashing. 
The usual "Typo failed to start properly" crashes.

I managed to isolate the problem down to sidebars.  If all sidebars are 
removed, the blog will start fine.  If I add one sidebar in the admin 
interface, even a basic one like Archives, Static, or XML Syndication, it 
goes back to crashing.  Remove the sidebar, and it starts.

I've been restarting apache and clearing the cache to try to remove those 
variables.  I'm running Apache2/FCGI on FreeBSD.

Any suggestions on what is broken?

--Wade

From kevin at sb.org  Mon Jan 16 17:33:18 2006
From: kevin at sb.org (Kevin Ballard)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:33:18 -0800
Subject: [typo] Changes to Textfilters and Theme layouts
In-Reply-To: <F8BF2BFB-B2C7-4BE5-83FD-6E3D7671374E@sigkill.org>
References: <4C2FDFFF-34D3-4279-A76A-C865BC713299@sb.org>
	<d39f60c90601152115r9a8a27fm2088bcba12785d86@mail.gmail.com>
	<687CBEFD-4091-44AE-B40D-24570B2A45B6@sb.org>
	<F8BF2BFB-B2C7-4BE5-83FD-6E3D7671374E@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <99F19BEC-3CF0-4083-BFCA-335CE8393C15@sb.org>

On Jan 16, 2006, at 6:55 AM, Scott Laird wrote:

> I haven't really looked at the new code, but how does this compare
> with the stock Rails register_javascript_include_default/
> javascript_include_tag?

Well, I'd never heard of register_javascript_include_default()  
before. That said, I'm not sure if it's suitable. First, the Lightbox  
textfilter also needs to link a CSS file, which  
register_javascript_include_default doesn't do. Second, the docs  
don't say if that function strips duplicate includes, which I also  
needs. Third, it's defined in asset_tag_helper, which the textfilter  
doesn't get by default. Though I have considered importing it so I  
could use the stock javascript_include_tag and stylesheet_include_tag  
helper methods instead of rolling my own, but I'm not sure what the  
proper way to do that is. But #1 and #2 are pretty important.

-- 
Kevin Ballard
kevin at sb.org
http://www.tildesoft.com
http://kevin.sb.org

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From kevin at sb.org  Mon Jan 16 18:02:02 2006
From: kevin at sb.org (Kevin Ballard)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:02:02 -0800
Subject: [typo] Update to 849, sidebars break typo
In-Reply-To: <20060116125719.A15007@bunning.skiltech.com>
References: <20060116125719.A15007@bunning.skiltech.com>
Message-ID: <7A214FDE-C2B6-483F-8CC6-209666AD06B9@sb.org>

Well, that's strange. Could you give us a stack trace so we know  
*where* it's crashing?

Thanks,
Kevin

On Jan 16, 2006, at 10:01 AM, H. Wade Minter wrote:

> I ran a SVN update to release 849 today, and my blog started crashing.
> The usual "Typo failed to start properly" crashes.
>
> I managed to isolate the problem down to sidebars.  If all sidebars  
> are
> removed, the blog will start fine.  If I add one sidebar in the admin
> interface, even a basic one like Archives, Static, or XML  
> Syndication, it
> goes back to crashing.  Remove the sidebar, and it starts.
>
> I've been restarting apache and clearing the cache to try to remove  
> those
> variables.  I'm running Apache2/FCGI on FreeBSD.
>
> Any suggestions on what is broken?

-- 
Kevin Ballard
kevin at sb.org
http://www.tildesoft.com
http://kevin.sb.org

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From ronald.green at gmail.com  Mon Jan 16 20:05:40 2006
From: ronald.green at gmail.com (Ron Green)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:05:40 -0600
Subject: [typo] Update to 849, sidebars break typo
In-Reply-To: <7A214FDE-C2B6-483F-8CC6-209666AD06B9@sb.org>
References: <20060116125719.A15007@bunning.skiltech.com>
	<7A214FDE-C2B6-483F-8CC6-209666AD06B9@sb.org>
Message-ID: <5d63856e0601161705j6229c3b5pb82491618f9a1a3f@mail.gmail.com>

I am seeing something similar too except I can't even get typo restarted.
There are no error messages in the logs however I get this when I try to
restart lighttpd:

2006-01-17 01:04:11: (server.c.702) Configuration of plugins failed. Going
down.

On 1/16/06, Kevin Ballard <kevin at sb.org> wrote:
>
> Well, that's strange. Could you give us a stack trace so we know
> *where* it's crashing?
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
> On Jan 16, 2006, at 10:01 AM, H. Wade Minter wrote:
>
> > I ran a SVN update to release 849 today, and my blog started crashing.
> > The usual "Typo failed to start properly" crashes.
> >
> > I managed to isolate the problem down to sidebars.  If all sidebars
> > are
> > removed, the blog will start fine.  If I add one sidebar in the admin
> > interface, even a basic one like Archives, Static, or XML
> > Syndication, it
> > goes back to crashing.  Remove the sidebar, and it starts.
> >
> > I've been restarting apache and clearing the cache to try to remove
> > those
> > variables.  I'm running Apache2/FCGI on FreeBSD.
> >
> > Any suggestions on what is broken?
>
> --
> Kevin Ballard
> kevin at sb.org
> http://www.tildesoft.com
> http://kevin.sb.org
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
>
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From kevin at sb.org  Mon Jan 16 21:20:37 2006
From: kevin at sb.org (Kevin Ballard)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:20:37 -0800
Subject: [typo] Update to 849, sidebars break typo
In-Reply-To: <5d63856e0601161705j6229c3b5pb82491618f9a1a3f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20060116125719.A15007@bunning.skiltech.com>
	<7A214FDE-C2B6-483F-8CC6-209666AD06B9@sb.org>
	<5d63856e0601161705j6229c3b5pb82491618f9a1a3f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7C953AF6-7A9A-4F3F-8F08-F4C01715A8C5@sb.org>

On Jan 16, 2006, at 5:05 PM, Ron Green wrote:

> I am seeing something similar too except I can't even get typo  
> restarted.
> There are no error messages in the logs however I get this when I  
> try to restart lighttpd:
>
> 2006-01-17 01:04:11: (server.c.702) Configuration of plugins  
> failed. Going down.

Huh. That error message is being generated by lighttpd itself, so  
there may be some sort of configuration error on your end (quite  
possibly some problem with fcgi). As for the original issue with typo  
crashing with a sidebar, I still have no idea.

Wade, does Typo still crash if you run ./script/server or access it  
via the CGI directly? and if so, what about in development mode?

-- 
Kevin Ballard
kevin at sb.org
http://www.tildesoft.com
http://kevin.sb.org

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From brianellin at gmail.com  Mon Jan 16 21:50:55 2006
From: brianellin at gmail.com (Brian Ellin)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:50:55 -0800
Subject: [typo] OpenID authenticated comments example
Message-ID: <9674d5350601161850w77efec62s7fad1b66e27c44db@mail.gmail.com>

I've launched a Typo based blog that uses OpenID to authenticate comments.
I'm interesting in getting some feedback on flow, etc from the Typo
developers.  Ideally I'd like to get my changes rolled into the Typo trunk,
so please have a look.  My first post talks about OpenID and the patches in
some detail:

http://www.brianellin.com/

Leave a comment.... try it out!  If you don't have an OpenID, you can sign
up for one at myopenid.com, videntity.org, or livejournal.com.

Brian Ellin
brianellin.com
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From ronald.green at gmail.com  Mon Jan 16 22:01:34 2006
From: ronald.green at gmail.com (Ron Green)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:01:34 -0600
Subject: [typo] Update to 849, sidebars break typo
In-Reply-To: <7C953AF6-7A9A-4F3F-8F08-F4C01715A8C5@sb.org>
References: <20060116125719.A15007@bunning.skiltech.com>
	<7A214FDE-C2B6-483F-8CC6-209666AD06B9@sb.org>
	<5d63856e0601161705j6229c3b5pb82491618f9a1a3f@mail.gmail.com>
	<7C953AF6-7A9A-4F3F-8F08-F4C01715A8C5@sb.org>
Message-ID: <5d63856e0601161901v3af22369l6ab5147e2178cf60@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe but it worked fine before migrating from 785 to 849.

On 1/16/06, Kevin Ballard <kevin at sb.org> wrote:
>
> On Jan 16, 2006, at 5:05 PM, Ron Green wrote:
>
> > I am seeing something similar too except I can't even get typo
> > restarted.
> > There are no error messages in the logs however I get this when I
> > try to restart lighttpd:
> >
> > 2006-01-17 01:04:11: (server.c.702) Configuration of plugins
> > failed. Going down.
>
> Huh. That error message is being generated by lighttpd itself, so
> there may be some sort of configuration error on your end (quite
> possibly some problem with fcgi). As for the original issue with typo
> crashing with a sidebar, I still have no idea.
>
> Wade, does Typo still crash if you run ./script/server or access it
> via the CGI directly? and if so, what about in development mode?
>
> --
> Kevin Ballard
> kevin at sb.org
> http://www.tildesoft.com
> http://kevin.sb.org
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
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From trejkaz at trypticon.org  Mon Jan 16 22:33:17 2006
From: trejkaz at trypticon.org (Trejkaz)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:33:17 +1100
Subject: [typo] OpenID authenticated comments example
In-Reply-To: <9674d5350601161850w77efec62s7fad1b66e27c44db@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9674d5350601161850w77efec62s7fad1b66e27c44db@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43CC657D.6020707@trypticon.org>

Brian Ellin wrote:
> I've launched a Typo based blog that uses OpenID to authenticate 
> comments.  I'm interesting in getting some feedback on flow, etc from 
> the Typo developers.  Ideally I'd like to get my changes rolled into the 
> Typo trunk, so please have a look.  My first post talks about OpenID and 
> the patches in some detail:
> 
> http://www.brianellin.com/
> 
> Leave a comment.... try it out!  If you don't have an OpenID, you can 
> sign up for one at myopenid.com <http://myopenid.com>, videntity.org 
> <http://videntity.org>, or livejournal.com <http://livejournal.com>.

Sweet!

Are you going to implement Typo as an OpenID provider as well?  That 
would be _really_ nifty... then it could almost transparently 
authenticate all Typo-based blogs with each other (well, except those 
who turn the feature off, I suppose.)

TX

From lroland at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 08:33:30 2006
From: lroland at gmail.com (Lars Roland)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:33:30 +0100
Subject: [typo] Typo broken after update to 849
Message-ID: <4ad99e050601170533u4b0df3e9v68c36e3753bb59a2@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I just updated to the latest trunk, but somthing went wrong duing the
DB upgrade so now I get:

-----
 NoMethodError in Admin/general#update_database
You have a nil object when you didn't expect it!
You might have expected an instance of Array.
The error occured while evaluating nil.collect
-----

I can still view my blog bu the sidebar is broken (i.e clicking on
anything on it yields nothing), all my posts are however still there.
i have tried restarting apache, postgresql and even the entire  server
(which was due for a kernel update anyway).

I am not a rails debugger wiz (yet) so I just fired up webrik and got
the following following full trace:

-----
#{RAILS_ROOT}/app/controllers/admin/general_controller.rb:10:in
`update_database'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:853:in
`perform_action_without_filters'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:332:in
`perform_action_without_benchmark'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:69:in
`perform_action_without_rescue'
/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/benchmark.rb:293:in `measure'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:69:in
`perform_action_without_rescue'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/rescue.rb:82:in
`perform_action'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:369:in
`process_without_session_management_support'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session_management.rb:116:in
`process'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/dispatcher.rb:38:in `dispatch'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/webrick_server.rb:117:in
`handle_dispatch'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/webrick_server.rb:83:in `service'
/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/httpserver.rb:104:in `service'
/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/httpserver.rb:65:in `run'
/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:173:in `start_thread'
/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:162:in `start_thread'
/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:95:in `start'
/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:92:in `start'
/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:23:in `start'
/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:82:in `start'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/webrick_server.rb:69:in `dispatch'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/commands/servers/webrick.rb:59
/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:21:in `require'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:214:in
`require'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/commands/server.rb:28
/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:21:in `require'
/usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:214:in
`require'
#{RAILS_ROOT}/script/server:3
-----

If more info is needed to solve this problem then please speek up

--
Lars Roland


From cedric at feelfree.homelinux.com  Tue Jan 17 11:12:16 2006
From: cedric at feelfree.homelinux.com (cedric)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:12:16 +0100
Subject: [typo] Typo broken after update to 849
In-Reply-To: <4ad99e050601170533u4b0df3e9v68c36e3753bb59a2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ad99e050601170533u4b0df3e9v68c36e3753bb59a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43CD1760.2000006@feelfree.homelinux.com>

Lars Roland wrote:
> Hi
>
> I just updated to the latest trunk, but somthing went wrong duing the
> DB upgrade so now I get:
>
> -----
>  NoMethodError in Admin/general#update_database
> You have a nil object when you didn't expect it!
> You might have expected an instance of Array.
> The error occured while evaluating nil.collect
> -----
>
> I can still view my blog bu the sidebar is broken (i.e clicking on
> anything on it yields nothing), all my posts are however still there.
> i have tried restarting apache, postgresql and even the entire  server
> (which was due for a kernel update anyway).
>
> I am not a rails debugger wiz (yet) so I just fired up webrik and got
> the following following full trace:
>
> -----
> #{RAILS_ROOT}/app/controllers/admin/general_controller.rb:10:in
> `update_database'
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:853:in
> `perform_action_without_filters'
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:332:in
> `perform_action_without_benchmark'
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:69:in
> `perform_action_without_rescue'
> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/benchmark.rb:293:in `measure'
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:69:in
> `perform_action_without_rescue'
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/rescue.rb:82:in
> `perform_action'
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/base.rb:369:in
> `process_without_session_management_support'
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/session_management.rb:116:in
> `process'
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/dispatcher.rb:38:in `dispatch'
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/webrick_server.rb:117:in
> `handle_dispatch'
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/webrick_server.rb:83:in `service'
> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/httpserver.rb:104:in `service'
> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/httpserver.rb:65:in `run'
> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:173:in `start_thread'
> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:162:in `start_thread'
> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:95:in `start'
> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:92:in `start'
> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:23:in `start'
> /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:82:in `start'
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/webrick_server.rb:69:in `dispatch'
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/commands/servers/webrick.rb:59
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:21:in `require'
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:214:in
> `require'
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/commands/server.rb:28
> /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:21:in `require'
> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:214:in
> `require'
> #{RAILS_ROOT}/script/server:3
> -----
>
> If more info is needed to solve this problem then please speek up
>
> --
> Lars Roland
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>   
It is mention as a bug with a workaround in the ticket 660

http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/660


my own workaround is go back to a previous version, to rename the file 
db/migrate/36_relate_contents_and_page_caches.rb to 
db/migrate/36_relate_contents_and_page_caches.rb.old before the svn 
update to 849, then update to version 849, revert the name to 
db/migrate/36_relate_contents_and_page_caches.rb and do the update on 
admin page... it works for me!

or you can do the change in the database as mentioned in the ticket

regards.

From scott at sigkill.org  Tue Jan 17 12:48:18 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:48:18 -0800
Subject: [typo] OpenID authenticated comments example
In-Reply-To: <43CC657D.6020707@trypticon.org>
References: <9674d5350601161850w77efec62s7fad1b66e27c44db@mail.gmail.com>
	<43CC657D.6020707@trypticon.org>
Message-ID: <F9D53739-7AF0-4D1C-BC8A-5160B2E55078@sigkill.org>


On Jan 16, 2006, at 7:33 PM, Trejkaz wrote:

> Brian Ellin wrote:
>> I've launched a Typo based blog that uses OpenID to authenticate
>> comments.  I'm interesting in getting some feedback on flow, etc from
>> the Typo developers.  Ideally I'd like to get my changes rolled  
>> into the
>> Typo trunk, so please have a look.  My first post talks about  
>> OpenID and
>> the patches in some detail:
>>
>> http://www.brianellin.com/
>>
>> Leave a comment.... try it out!  If you don't have an OpenID, you can
>> sign up for one at myopenid.com <http://myopenid.com>, videntity.org
>> <http://videntity.org>, or livejournal.com <http://livejournal.com>.
>
> Sweet!
>
> Are you going to implement Typo as an OpenID provider as well?  That
> would be _really_ nifty... then it could almost transparently
> authenticate all Typo-based blogs with each other (well, except those
> who turn the feature off, I suppose.)

That'd be really, deeply cool.  I've wanted this for months, but I've  
kind of failed to implement it.  There's one thing to watch out for-- 
it'll be really easy to deadlock on single-thread servers, like  
webrick or fastcgi with 1 process.


Scott

From ziplux at comcast.net  Tue Jan 17 13:01:06 2006
From: ziplux at comcast.net (Jared Luxenberg)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:01:06 -0500
Subject: [typo] Page caching and dynamic sidebars
Message-ID: <43CD30E2.604@comcast.net>

I just developed a sidebar plugin that needs to be updated every 5min or
so.  But the problem is, with page caching on it only gets updated when
I post an article or someone posts a comment.  I'm having the same
problem with the audioscrobbler plugin.  I looked in the mailing list
archives and saw that some people were working on this problem, but I
couldn't find a solution.

Should I just wait for fragment caching to be implemented?  Is there any
way I can help with that (I'm an okay Rails programmer)?  Or is there a
quick and dirty short term fix I can use? (besides turning off caching)
It seems like this is kinda a big problem, because the Audioscrobbler
plugin suffers from it too and it is included in the standard Typo
distribution.

- Jared


From scott at sigkill.org  Tue Jan 17 13:12:09 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:12:09 -0800
Subject: [typo] Page caching and dynamic sidebars
In-Reply-To: <43CD30E2.604@comcast.net>
References: <43CD30E2.604@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <A4DB04B9-46D4-4038-9E0F-A4B908072C99@sigkill.org>


On Jan 17, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Jared Luxenberg wrote:

> I just developed a sidebar plugin that needs to be updated every  
> 5min or
> so.  But the problem is, with page caching on it only gets updated  
> when
> I post an article or someone posts a comment.  I'm having the same
> problem with the audioscrobbler plugin.  I looked in the mailing list
> archives and saw that some people were working on this problem, but I
> couldn't find a solution.
>
> Should I just wait for fragment caching to be implemented?  Is  
> there any
> way I can help with that (I'm an okay Rails programmer)?  Or is  
> there a
> quick and dirty short term fix I can use? (besides turning off  
> caching)
> It seems like this is kinda a big problem, because the Audioscrobbler
> plugin suffers from it too and it is included in the standard Typo
> distribution.

I have fragment caching code written and lightly tested.  I still  
need to add a good way for pages to set their lifetime, but that  
shouldn't take very long.  Right now, everything uses a hard timeout  
of 10 seconds--great for testing, not so useful in reality.  Give me  
a day or so.

The bigger issue is wether we want to make this the default in Typo  
or not.


Scott

From minter at lunenburg.org  Tue Jan 17 13:11:55 2006
From: minter at lunenburg.org (H. Wade Minter)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:11:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [typo] Update to 849, sidebars break typo
In-Reply-To: <7A214FDE-C2B6-483F-8CC6-209666AD06B9@sb.org>
References: <20060116125719.A15007@bunning.skiltech.com>
	<7A214FDE-C2B6-483F-8CC6-209666AD06B9@sb.org>
Message-ID: <20060117131055.N10292@bunning.skiltech.com>

After further investigation, I think I tracked my problem down to a Ruby 
upgrade on my FreeBSD server.  A couple of other typo blogs that hadn't 
been updated to 849 were having the same issue.  I dropped Ruby down to 
1.8.2 and the sidebars started working again.

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Kevin Ballard wrote:

> Well, that's strange. Could you give us a stack trace so we know *where* it's 
> crashing?
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
> On Jan 16, 2006, at 10:01 AM, H. Wade Minter wrote:
>
>> I ran a SVN update to release 849 today, and my blog started crashing.
>> The usual "Typo failed to start properly" crashes.
>> 
>> I managed to isolate the problem down to sidebars.  If all sidebars are
>> removed, the blog will start fine.  If I add one sidebar in the admin
>> interface, even a basic one like Archives, Static, or XML Syndication, it
>> goes back to crashing.  Remove the sidebar, and it starts.
>> 
>> I've been restarting apache and clearing the cache to try to remove those
>> variables.  I'm running Apache2/FCGI on FreeBSD.
>> 
>> Any suggestions on what is broken?
>
>

From brianellin at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 14:22:47 2006
From: brianellin at gmail.com (Brian Ellin)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:22:47 -0800
Subject: [typo] OpenID authenticated comments example
In-Reply-To: <F9D53739-7AF0-4D1C-BC8A-5160B2E55078@sigkill.org>
References: <9674d5350601161850w77efec62s7fad1b66e27c44db@mail.gmail.com>
	<43CC657D.6020707@trypticon.org>
	<F9D53739-7AF0-4D1C-BC8A-5160B2E55078@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <9674d5350601171122n21cebd3evc74bb2aed87a7340@mail.gmail.com>

I'd love to see Typo with an OpenID server feature.  The Ruby OpenID library
currently does not have server support, though I will be working on that in
the coming months.  Right now I've got my Typo blog delegating to
myopenid.com, and I'm quite happy with it.  This can be accomplished with
just a couple of lines of HTML in the HEAD section of your layout.

TX mentioned something about Typo blogs being able to authenticate each
other in server mode.  This is a great idea, but I'm more interested in
developing OpenID stuff that speaks to *any* OpenID service.  Imagine, for
example, if you only wanted to let your friends comment on your blog, or
friends of friends, or whatever.  This is easily accomplished with FOAF and
OpenID, or a custom whitelist solution.  When someone tries to leave a
comment on the blog, you'll know who they are and you can choose any
algorithm you'd like to see if they can post.  Simple OpenID authed comments
are a step in this direction.

Thanks, Brian

ps - Any hints as to why my form_remote_tag 302 handler does not work under
IE6?!

On 1/17/06, Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org> wrote:
>
>
> > Sweet!
> >
> > Are you going to implement Typo as an OpenID provider as well?  That
> > would be _really_ nifty... then it could almost transparently
> > authenticate all Typo-based blogs with each other (well, except those
> > who turn the feature off, I suppose.)
>
> That'd be really, deeply cool.  I've wanted this for months, but I've
> kind of failed to implement it.  There's one thing to watch out for--
> it'll be really easy to deadlock on single-thread servers, like
> webrick or fastcgi with 1 process.
>
>
> Scott
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From lroland at gmail.com  Wed Jan 18 03:44:10 2006
From: lroland at gmail.com (Lars Roland)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:44:10 +0100
Subject: [typo] Typo broken after update to 849
In-Reply-To: <43CD1760.2000006@feelfree.homelinux.com>
References: <4ad99e050601170533u4b0df3e9v68c36e3753bb59a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<43CD1760.2000006@feelfree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <4ad99e050601180044s173b1392ybe81a19a81793487@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/17/06, cedric <cedric at feelfree.homelinux.com> wrote:
> It is mention as a bug with a workaround in the ticket 660
>
> http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/660

Woop did not see that one

> my own workaround is go back to a previous version, to rename the file
> db/migrate/36_relate_contents_and_page_caches.rb to
> db/migrate/36_relate_contents_and_page_caches.rb.old before the svn
> update to 849, then update to version 849, revert the name to
> db/migrate/36_relate_contents_and_page_caches.rb and do the update on
> admin page... it works for me!
>
> or you can do the change in the database as mentioned in the ticket

Logging in to the db and doing

 update schema_info set version = 35;

did the trick for me. Thanks for the fix.



--
Lars Roland




>
> regards.
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>


From trejkaz at trypticon.org  Wed Jan 18 04:48:24 2006
From: trejkaz at trypticon.org (Trejkaz)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:48:24 +1100
Subject: [typo] Making sense of notifications code
Message-ID: <200601182048.28662.trejkaz@trypticon.org>


I've ported my local copy of Typo over to the XMPP4R library so that Jabber 
notifications can work.  The JabberNotify class now works in its own right, 
but I'm not getting any actual notifications even though my configuration 
seems to be right.

I'm seeing this query fly past the log window:

  SELECT * FROM users
    LEFT JOIN notifications ON users.id = notifications.notify_user_id
        WHERE (notifications.notify_content_id = 1 )

Entering that query, I get zero rows.  Removing the WHERE clause, I get my 
row, and I can see that notify_content_id = NULL.  Is this column supposed to 
have a value in it, and who sets it?

TX

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From ronald.green at gmail.com  Fri Jan 20 08:59:56 2006
From: ronald.green at gmail.com (Ron Green)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:59:56 -0600
Subject: [typo] Archives
Message-ID: <5d63856e0601200559t21c2d008pcf8c3c8e31b75c1@mail.gmail.com>

I just re-added the Archive to the sidebar and the months are appearing in
another language.

Any ideas?

You can see here: http://rfgreen.net

Build 849.
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From magriep at mac.com  Fri Jan 20 17:38:39 2006
From: magriep at mac.com (Michael Griepentrog)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:38:39 -0600
Subject: [typo] Installing on DreamHost
Message-ID: <BD7F626C-B9A9-47D2-83F9-FDA798517799@mac.com>

Hi,

I'm trying to install typo (2.6.0), and I keep getting sporadic 500  
errors.

I've gotten it to the point where I can login, but then typo asks me  
to migrate the database.  When I click "Update my database now" it  
goes to a 500 error.

I checked the production.log and found this:

Processing GeneralController#migrate (for 69.76.46.160 at 2006-01-19  
18:46:35) [POST]
   Parameters: {"action"=>"migrate", "controller"=>"admin/general"}
Migrating to AddExtendedHtml (1)
Migrating to AddUserEmail (2)


ActiveRecord::StatementInvalid (Mysql::Error: Duplicate column name  
'email': ALTER TABLE users ADD email text):
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/ 
active_record/connection_adapters/abstract_adapter.rb:88:in `log'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/ 
active_record/connection_adapters/mysql_adapter.rb:180:in `execute'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/ 
active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/schema_statements.rb: 
114:in `add_co$
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/ 
active_record/migration.rb:170:in `send'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/ 
active_record/migration.rb:170:in `method_missing'
     /db/migrate//2_add_user_email.rb:3:in `up'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/ 
active_record/migration.rb:228:in `send'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/ 
active_record/migration.rb:228:in `migrate'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/ 
active_record/migration.rb:223:in `each'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/ 
active_record/migration.rb:223:in `migrate'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/ 
active_record/migration.rb:190:in `up'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/ 
active_record/migration.rb:181:in `migrate'
     /lib/migrator.rb:26:in `migrate'
     app/controllers/admin/general_controller.rb:17:in `migrate'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/ 
action_controller/base.rb:853:in `send'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/ 
action_controller/base.rb:853:in `perform_action_without_filters'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/ 
action_controller/filters.rb:332:in `perform_action_without_benchmark'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/ 
action_controller/benchmarking.rb:69:in `perform_action_without_rescue'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/ 
action_controller/benchmarking.rb:69:in `measure'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/ 
action_controller/benchmarking.rb:69:in `perform_action_without_rescue'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/ 
action_controller/rescue.rb:82:in `perform_action'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/ 
action_controller/base.rb:369:in `send'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/ 
action_controller/base.rb:369:in  
`process_without_session_management_support'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/ 
action_controller/session_management.rb:116:in `process'
     /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/dispatcher.rb:38:in  
`dispatch'
     /lib/fcgi_handler.rb:141:in `process_request'
     /lib/fcgi_handler.rb:53:in `process!'
     /lib/fcgi_handler.rb:52:in `each_cgi'
     /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/fcgi.rb:597:in `each'
     /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/fcgi.rb:597:in `each_cgi'
     /lib/fcgi_handler.rb:52:in `process!'
     /lib/fcgi_handler.rb:22:in `process!'
     dispatch.fcgi:24


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-Mike

From dusty.jewett at gmail.com  Fri Jan 20 23:08:23 2006
From: dusty.jewett at gmail.com (Dusty Jewett)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:08:23 -0800
Subject: [typo] Installing on DreamHost
In-Reply-To: <BD7F626C-B9A9-47D2-83F9-FDA798517799@mac.com>
References: <BD7F626C-B9A9-47D2-83F9-FDA798517799@mac.com>
Message-ID: <939e27410601202008n13a2ac17xdefdf438d1374e18@mail.gmail.com>

I'm on dreamhost... I have an installation of 2.6, and an installation of
Trunk a couple weeks old....

I wasn't able to migrate the database, from what I gleamed, there's an error
in the version of Rails that Dreamhost has that kills the migrate script.

I was told I could install rails into the vendor\ directory, give that a
shot... Since it wasn't a big deal for me, I just cleaned house and
re-installed, so I don't have any success stories...

Good luck!
-Dusty

On 1/20/06, Michael Griepentrog <magriep at mac.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to install typo (2.6.0), and I keep getting sporadic 500
> errors.
>
> I've gotten it to the point where I can login, but then typo asks me
> to migrate the database.  When I click "Update my database now" it
> goes to a 500 error.
>
> I checked the production.log and found this:
>
> Processing GeneralController#migrate (for 69.76.46.160 at 2006-01-19
> 18:46:35) [POST]
>    Parameters: {"action"=>"migrate", "controller"=>"admin/general"}
> Migrating to AddExtendedHtml (1)
> Migrating to AddUserEmail (2)
>
>
> ActiveRecord::StatementInvalid (Mysql::Error: Duplicate column name
> 'email': ALTER TABLE users ADD email text):
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/
> active_record/connection_adapters/abstract_adapter.rb:88:in `log'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/
> active_record/connection_adapters/mysql_adapter.rb:180:in `execute'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/
> active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/schema_statements.rb:
> 114:in `add_co$
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/
> active_record/migration.rb:170:in `send'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/
> active_record/migration.rb:170:in `method_missing'
>      /db/migrate//2_add_user_email.rb:3:in `up'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/
> active_record/migration.rb:228:in `send'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/
> active_record/migration.rb:228:in `migrate'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/
> active_record/migration.rb:223:in `each'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/
> active_record/migration.rb:223:in `migrate'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/
> active_record/migration.rb:190:in `up'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.13.2/lib/
> active_record/migration.rb:181:in `migrate'
>      /lib/migrator.rb:26:in `migrate'
>      app/controllers/admin/general_controller.rb:17:in `migrate'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/
> action_controller/base.rb:853:in `send'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/
> action_controller/base.rb:853:in `perform_action_without_filters'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/
> action_controller/filters.rb:332:in `perform_action_without_benchmark'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/
> action_controller/benchmarking.rb:69:in `perform_action_without_rescue'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/
> action_controller/benchmarking.rb:69:in `measure'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/
> action_controller/benchmarking.rb:69:in `perform_action_without_rescue'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/
> action_controller/rescue.rb:82:in `perform_action'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/
> action_controller/base.rb:369:in `send'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/
> action_controller/base.rb:369:in
> `process_without_session_management_support'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/
> action_controller/session_management.rb:116:in `process'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/dispatcher.rb:38:in
> `dispatch'
>      /lib/fcgi_handler.rb:141:in `process_request'
>      /lib/fcgi_handler.rb:53:in `process!'
>      /lib/fcgi_handler.rb:52:in `each_cgi'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/fcgi.rb:597:in `each'
>      /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/fcgi.rb:597:in `each_cgi'
>      /lib/fcgi_handler.rb:52:in `process!'
>      /lib/fcgi_handler.rb:22:in `process!'
>      dispatch.fcgi:24
>
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> -Mike
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
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From ronald.green at gmail.com  Fri Jan 20 23:51:08 2006
From: ronald.green at gmail.com (Ron Green)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:51:08 -0600
Subject: [typo] Archives
In-Reply-To: <5d63856e0601200559t21c2d008pcf8c3c8e31b75c1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5d63856e0601200559t21c2d008pcf8c3c8e31b75c1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5d63856e0601202051r6e39a33by81257df840999d36@mail.gmail.com>

I just noticed under each post title it says:

"Posted by Ron on NaN"

I checked in admin and in the database and the dates all look correct.
Something is misinterpreting the names of the months.

On 1/20/06, Ron Green <ronald.green at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I just re-added the Archive to the sidebar and the months are appearing in
> another language.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> You can see here: http://rfgreen.net
>
> Build 849.
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From scott at sigkill.org  Fri Jan 20 23:58:37 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:58:37 -0800
Subject: [typo] Archives
In-Reply-To: <5d63856e0601202051r6e39a33by81257df840999d36@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5d63856e0601200559t21c2d008pcf8c3c8e31b75c1@mail.gmail.com>
	<5d63856e0601202051r6e39a33by81257df840999d36@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5853AA50-3EE8-4A2B-8A0F-0453B352742B@sigkill.org>

Sounds like a locale problem.  Try making sure that you don't have a  
LANG= environment variable.  Alternately, try doing 'export LANG=C'  
before starting your web server.


Scott

On Jan 20, 2006, at 8:51 PM, Ron Green wrote:

> I just noticed under each post title it says:
>
> "Posted by Ron on NaN"
>
> I checked in admin and in the database and the dates all look correct.
> Something is misinterpreting the names of the months.
>
> On 1/20/06, Ron Green <ronald.green at gmail.com> wrote:
> I just re-added the Archive to the sidebar and the months are  
> appearing in another language.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> You can see here: http://rfgreen.net
>
> Build 849.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list

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From ronald.green at gmail.com  Sat Jan 21 00:19:23 2006
From: ronald.green at gmail.com (Ron Green)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:19:23 -0600
Subject: [typo] Archives
In-Reply-To: <5853AA50-3EE8-4A2B-8A0F-0453B352742B@sigkill.org>
References: <5d63856e0601200559t21c2d008pcf8c3c8e31b75c1@mail.gmail.com>
	<5d63856e0601202051r6e39a33by81257df840999d36@mail.gmail.com>
	<5853AA50-3EE8-4A2B-8A0F-0453B352742B@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <5d63856e0601202119n297c8172wcc0ff57d56e3c52@mail.gmail.com>

I'm sorry Scott but can you point me to where I would find "LANG="? Where am
I running "export LANG=C" from?

On 1/20/06, Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org> wrote:
>
> Sounds like a locale problem.  Try making sure that you don't have a LANG=
> environment variable.  Alternately, try doing 'export LANG=C' before
> starting your web server.
>
> Scott
>
> On Jan 20, 2006, at 8:51 PM, Ron Green wrote:
>
> I just noticed under each post title it says:
>
> "Posted by Ron on NaN"
>
> I checked in admin and in the database and the dates all look correct.
> Something is misinterpreting the names of the months.
>
> On 1/20/06, Ron Green <ronald.green at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I just re-added the Archive to the sidebar and the months are appearing
> > in another language.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > You can see here: http://rfgreen.net
> >
> > Build 849.
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
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From ziplux at comcast.net  Sat Jan 21 01:34:45 2006
From: ziplux at comcast.net (Jared Luxenberg)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 01:34:45 -0500
Subject: [typo] Pings not being sent?
Message-ID: <43D1D605.3060509@comcast.net>

I have my settings set to automatically ping technorati and blo.gs, but
when I search for entries I've posted at those sites, I find nothing. 
How can I be sure that Typo is pinging these sites properly?

- Jared



From jennyw at dangerousideas.com  Sat Jan 21 02:41:37 2006
From: jennyw at dangerousideas.com (jennyw)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 23:41:37 -0800
Subject: [typo] Heavy RAM usage? Instability?
Message-ID: <43D1E5B1.8040404@dangerousideas.com>

I'm still new to Typo and haven't gotten to do much with it yet, but 
what I've seen seems to be working well for me. I've had a few problems 
with Typo going away, but I assumed those were all related to reboots at 
TextDrive (I don't check my blog all that often). I was looking into the 
preferred way to restart a Rails app on TxD now that Daedalus is frowned 
upon when I came upon this:

http://forum.textdrive.com/viewtopic.php?id=8371

which is a thread on the TxD forums where three of the admins say how 
much they dislike Typo, with Jason posting a list of heavy memory users 
and showing that Typo seems to be the top culprit most times.

I'm too new to Typo to really make a judgment, so I thought I'd ask here 
... What do people think of that?

Jen


From rasputnik at gmail.com  Sat Jan 21 03:01:19 2006
From: rasputnik at gmail.com (Dick Davies)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:01:19 +0000
Subject: [typo] Heavy RAM usage? Instability?
In-Reply-To: <43D1E5B1.8040404@dangerousideas.com>
References: <43D1E5B1.8040404@dangerousideas.com>
Message-ID: <3f1760601210001p30403ffer@mail.gmail.com>

On 21/01/06, jennyw <jennyw at dangerousideas.com> wrote:

> http://forum.textdrive.com/viewtopic.php?id=8371

Heehee. Bear in mind admins would like us all to be using static files, so I
wouldn't take it too personally.

Typo has got a little bigger lately, but I can understand the code (when I need
to) which means I'd rather but my eggs in that basket than wordpress.

If you need to have typo startup at boot on textdrive, just go for:

PATH = /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
@reboot /usr/local/sbin/lighttpd -f /path/to/lighttpd.conf

at the top of your crontab

(the pathchange saves you having to edit the
  #! /usr/bin/env ruby
shebang at the top of dispatch.fcgi)


--
Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns
http://number9.hellooperator.net/


From chris at seagul.co.uk  Sat Jan 21 06:26:56 2006
From: chris at seagul.co.uk (Chris Roos)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:26:56 +0000
Subject: [typo] Pings not being sent?
In-Reply-To: <43D1D605.3060509@comcast.net>
References: <43D1D605.3060509@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43D21A80.1050205@seagul.co.uk>

It's not currently implemented in Typo.

You could apply the patch from ticket #526[1] to solve the problem.

Chris

[1] http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/526


Jared Luxenberg wrote:
> I have my settings set to automatically ping technorati and blo.gs, but
> when I search for entries I've posted at those sites, I find nothing. 
> How can I be sure that Typo is pinging these sites properly?
> 
> - Jared
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From ronald.green at gmail.com  Sat Jan 21 08:09:43 2006
From: ronald.green at gmail.com (Ron Green)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:09:43 -0600
Subject: [typo] Archives
In-Reply-To: <5d63856e0601202119n297c8172wcc0ff57d56e3c52@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5d63856e0601200559t21c2d008pcf8c3c8e31b75c1@mail.gmail.com>
	<5d63856e0601202051r6e39a33by81257df840999d36@mail.gmail.com>
	<5853AA50-3EE8-4A2B-8A0F-0453B352742B@sigkill.org>
	<5d63856e0601202119n297c8172wcc0ff57d56e3c52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5d63856e0601210509g2468e929w2938ee1d2e970a72@mail.gmail.com>

Well, mysteriously, I got up this morning and the problem is gone.
I love self-healing applications. ;-)

On 1/20/06, Ron Green <ronald.green at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm sorry Scott but can you point me to where I would find "LANG="? Where
> am I running "export LANG=C" from?
>
> On 1/20/06, Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like a locale problem.  Try making sure that you don't have a
> > LANG= environment variable.  Alternately, try doing 'export LANG=C' before
> > starting your web server.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On Jan 20, 2006, at 8:51 PM, Ron Green wrote:
> >
> > I just noticed under each post title it says:
> >
> > "Posted by Ron on NaN"
> >
> > I checked in admin and in the database and the dates all look correct.
> > Something is misinterpreting the names of the months.
> >
> > On 1/20/06, Ron Green <ronald.green at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just re-added the Archive to the sidebar and the months are
> > > appearing in another language.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > You can see here: http://rfgreen.net
> > >
> > > Build 849.
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Typo-list mailing list
> > Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Typo-list mailing list
> > Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
> >
> >
>
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From chenggao at gmail.com  Sat Jan 21 08:25:01 2006
From: chenggao at gmail.com (CHENG Gao)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:25:01 +0800
Subject: [typo] Archives
References: <5d63856e0601200559t21c2d008pcf8c3c8e31b75c1@mail.gmail.com>
	<5d63856e0601202051r6e39a33by81257df840999d36@mail.gmail.com>
	<5853AA50-3EE8-4A2B-8A0F-0453B352742B@sigkill.org>
	<5d63856e0601202119n297c8172wcc0ff57d56e3c52@mail.gmail.com>
	<5d63856e0601210509g2468e929w2938ee1d2e970a72@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <m264od1zo2.fsf@eqiao.com>

*On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:09:43 -0600
* Ron Green <ronald.green at gmail.com> climbed out of the dark hell and cried out:

> Well, mysteriously, I got up this morning and the problem is gone.
> I love self-healing applications. ;-)
Maybe it's owing to fastcgi process. Within the time you were sleeping,
your fastcgi process was restarted and things come back to right track.
Just a guess. Sometimes I found fastcgi is a bad horse though without it
we can not go ahead. 


From justus at ryoohki.net  Sat Jan 21 10:31:39 2006
From: justus at ryoohki.net (Justus Pendleton)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:31:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [typo] Heavy RAM usage? Instability?
References: <43D1E5B1.8040404@dangerousideas.com>
Message-ID: <slrndt4kur.11p.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>

On 2006-01-21, jennyw <jennyw at dangerousideas.com> wrote:
> which is a thread on the TxD forums where three of the admins say how 
> much they dislike Typo, with Jason posting a list of heavy memory users 
> and showing that Typo seems to be the top culprit most times.

Typo is the only ruby app I use and the only Rails app I use. I have no
basis to judge which of the three is the real culprit -- ruby, rails, or
typo -- but typo is a huge resource drain. And it has gotten much huger.
I have two instances of typo. One a relatively current SVNish install
that I use. That has 3 instances of ruby each using 43MB of virtual
memory. A friend is using an older version (2.4? 2.5?) and that one is
using 23MB of virtual memory.

So my instance of typo is twice the memory hog of his. And his instance
of typo is three times the memory hog of the next largest app on the
system (dccifd).

IMHO it makes typo not so great for use in most hosting environments
because you have to pay more to have the resources to run it. I was
running out of memory, which resulted in processes randomly dying.

Justus


From gpsnospam at gmail.com  Sat Jan 21 10:52:52 2006
From: gpsnospam at gmail.com (Gary Shewan)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:52:52 +0000
Subject: [typo] Heavy RAM usage? Instability?
In-Reply-To: <slrndt4kur.11p.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>
References: <43D1E5B1.8040404@dangerousideas.com>
	<slrndt4kur.11p.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>
Message-ID: <32045E29-52A7-4897-8667-EF881B0CD19D@gmail.com>


On 21 Jan 2006, at 15:31, Justus Pendleton wrote:
>
> IMHO it makes typo not so great for use in most hosting environments
> because you have to pay more to have the resources to run it. I was
> running out of memory, which resulted in processes randomly dying.

I've never really had any issues on shared hosting, but I think it's  
a good point to make.  Enhancements are great as are all the bells  
and whistles ... to an extent.  But nothing beats good optimised code.

Gary

From stevenn at outerthought.org  Sat Jan 21 11:19:53 2006
From: stevenn at outerthought.org (Steven Noels)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:19:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [typo] Flickr Macros not working
Message-ID: <loom.20060121T171646-856@post.gmane.org>

Hello,

there might be some configuration switch I'm looking over, but AFAICT, the
<typo:flickr/> and <typo:lightbox/> are not being recognized on my SVN-trunk
checkout-based blog. The Sparkline one does work, except if I add a
(non-working) flickr or lightbox one below it, then the sparkline doesn't show
as well. The tags are being rendered in the HTML as-is, so clearly they aren't
recognized.

Anyone an idea what might be causing this?

Cheers,

Steven.


From arvind at grovernetwork.com  Sat Jan 21 12:31:50 2006
From: arvind at grovernetwork.com (arvind s grover)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:31:50 -0500
Subject: [typo] ziplux@comcast.net
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15096.1137828601.7182.typo-list@rubyforge.org>
Message-ID: <WrX069ez.1137864710.5962790.arvind@grovernetwork.com>


Jared, where did you set the ping settings?

After you post, go to http://www.technorati.com/tag/BLAHBLAH replacing
"BLAHBLAH" with one of the tags you just used in your post. You should
be at the top of the list within a couple minutes.

You could also go to your technorati account, under blogs, and see the
last time your account was pinged.

>Message: 5
>Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 01:34:45 -0500
>From: Jared Luxenberg <ziplux at comcast.net>
>Subject: [typo] Pings not being sent?
>To: typo-list at rubyforge.org
>Message-ID: <43D1D605.3060509 at comcast.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>I have my settings set to automatically ping technorati and blo.gs, but
>when I search for entries I've posted at those sites, I find nothing.
>How can I be sure that Typo is pinging these sites properly?
>
>- Jared
>
>
>


From jennyw at dangerousideas.com  Sat Jan 21 13:41:58 2006
From: jennyw at dangerousideas.com (jennyw)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:41:58 -0800
Subject: [typo] Heavy RAM usage? Instability?
In-Reply-To: <slrndt4kur.11p.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>
References: <43D1E5B1.8040404@dangerousideas.com>
	<slrndt4kur.11p.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>
Message-ID: <43D28076.8030604@dangerousideas.com>

Justus Pendleton wrote:

>Typo is the only ruby app I use and the only Rails app I use. I have no
>basis to judge which of the three is the real culprit -- ruby, rails, or
>typo -- but typo is a huge resource drain. And it has gotten much huger.
>I have two instances of typo. One a relatively current SVNish install
>that I use. That has 3 instances of ruby each using 43MB of virtual
>memory. A friend is using an older version (2.4? 2.5?) and that one is
>using 23MB of virtual memory.
>  
>

It's sad to hear that other people are experiencing this, too. I 
originally chose Typo because it was lighter weight than WP.  That's 
still true for LOC, which counts for a lot, but I'm surprised at how 
resource intensive it is.

I've noticed that Typo takes up 50% more memory than another RoR 
application I have running (which has almost as much code as Typo). I'm 
not sure why Typo is taking up so much memory, especially since it's a 
low-traffic site. In other words, the memory taken up isn't by a lot of 
controller instances existing at the same time. It's the amount of 
memory taken up when there are no pages being served (but after the 
first page has been served).

I haven't looked through the code thoroughly, but I notice that there 
are a lot of things loaded in environment.rb (using require_dependency 
-- since environment.rb is loaded only once, I'm pretty sure that this 
is the same as require, per 
http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/RequireDependency).  Is it 
necessary to load everything here? I don't know that everyone is going 
to be using jabber, flickr, tada, etc.  I did try and comment many of 
them out, and noticed only a small decrease in memory (of course, I 
might have missed commenting out the cuplprit(s)).

I also noticed that when the site first starts up, the memory usage is 
similar to other Rails applications. After loading the first page, the 
size almost doubles, so I thought there might be something in the 
controllers causing the meory usage. And, yet, application.rb and 
articles_controller.rb seem pretty innocent -- neither, at a glance, is 
loading much stuff.

Any ideas what's taking up all the memory?

Jen

From phil at cryer.us  Sat Jan 21 01:02:36 2006
From: phil at cryer.us (phil)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 0:02:36 -0600
Subject: [typo] Failing to start
In-Reply-To: 5d63856e0601200559t21c2d008pcf8c3c8e31b75c1@mail.gmail.com
Message-ID: <5c0525602fb665d98da5c9f44d37478e@pepe.cryer.us>

Typo has been running fine for months, but tonight I had a reboot and now it won't start.  I've tried via Lighttpd and Webrick but both fail.  I'm assuming this is more of a Ruby/Rails issue, but I am unsure of what's going on, I've never seen this before.  I've reinstalled lighttpd and rubygem-rails, but to no avail.  I'm running FreeBSD if that matters, and am using all of the ruby/gem stuff from ports, although at one time I did install some via gem install, not sure if that's an issue.  Here is the output from the server:

[phil at pepe:~/websites/fak3r/typo]$ ./script/server -e production
=> Booting lighttpd (use 'script/server webrick' to force WEBrick)
=> Rails application started on http://127.0.0.1:3000
=> Call with -d to detach (requires absolute paths in config/lighttpd.conf)
=> Ctrl-C to shutdown server (see config/lighttpd.conf for options)
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/commands/servers/lighttpd.rb:52: [BUG] Segmentation fault
ruby 1.8.4 (2005-12-24) [i386-freebsd6]

Abort trap: 6 (core dumped)

[phil at pepe:~/websites/fak3r/typo]$ ./script/server webrick -e production
=> Booting WEBrick...
=> Rails application started on http://0.0.0.0:3000
=> Ctrl-C to shutdown server; call with --help for options
[2006-01-21 00:00:59] INFO  WEBrick 1.3.1
[2006-01-21 00:00:59] INFO  ruby 1.8.4 (2005-12-24) [i386-freebsd6]
[2006-01-21 00:00:59] INFO  WEBrick::HTTPServer#start: pid=65343 port=3000
/usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:162: [BUG] Segmentation fault
ruby 1.8.4 (2005-12-24) [i386-freebsd6]

Abort trap: 6 (core dumped)
[phil at pepe:~/websites/fak3r/typo]$

P
-- 
http://fak3r.com - you don't have to kick it


From stevenn at outerthought.org  Sun Jan 22 01:40:27 2006
From: stevenn at outerthought.org (Steven Noels)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:40:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [typo] Flickr Macros not working
References: <loom.20060121T171646-856@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <loom.20060122T073736-964@post.gmane.org>

Steven Noels <stevenn <at> outerthought.org> writes:

> The tags are being rendered in the HTML as-is, so clearly they aren't
> recognized.

Hm. Looks like a weird Rails/Ruby difference between my development environment
(Mac OSX) and my production box (FreeBSD on Segpub).

I found a small error note in the logs:

Rendering articles/view_page
Filter macropost failed: SSL_CTX_new:: library has no ciphers

and I guess the macro fails because of some underlying library issue. Has anyone
else already encountered this?

Cheers,

Steven.


From rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz  Sun Jan 22 02:27:02 2006
From: rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz (Rodger Donaldson)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:27:02 +1300
Subject: [typo] comments with created_at field wrong?
In-Reply-To: <0891F275-C8DD-4419-ACD5-9A65D26DF3A3@kekova.ca>
References: <20060104003440.GA29168@tannoiser.sytes.net>
	<13853.202.49.97.7.1136335213.squirrel@israel.diaspora.gen.nz>
	<0891F275-C8DD-4419-ACD5-9A65D26DF3A3@kekova.ca>
Message-ID: <20060122072702.GA17438@diaspora.gen.nz>

On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 09:35:51PM -0500, Chris Nolan.ca wrote:
> You guys are both the other side of the GMT so I'm thinking it has  
> something to do with positive timezones but it's hard to say without  
> seeing some more data.
> 
> If you leave two comments in a row, are they both off, and by the  
> same amount?

Further investigation suggests the list poster who identified it as a
FastCGI problem is spot on: with Typo 2.6, Ruby 1.8.2 (from
debian-stable) and rails 0.14.3 the created_on attribute of a comment
is always set to the start time of the typo fastcgi process.  Kill the
process, and the time always dates to when Apache restarts it.

-- 
Rodger Donaldson		rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz
"Forgive us if we bite your head off; we were led to assume you weren't
using it in the first place"
		--Jim Allenspach, in comp.lang.perl.misc

From tannoiser at tenzione.it  Sun Jan 22 04:51:10 2006
From: tannoiser at tenzione.it (Maurizio Lemmo - Tannoiser)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:51:10 +0100
Subject: [typo] comments with created_at field wrong?
In-Reply-To: <20060122072702.GA17438@diaspora.gen.nz>
References: <20060104003440.GA29168@tannoiser.sytes.net>
	<13853.202.49.97.7.1136335213.squirrel@israel.diaspora.gen.nz>
	<0891F275-C8DD-4419-ACD5-9A65D26DF3A3@kekova.ca>
	<20060122072702.GA17438@diaspora.gen.nz>
Message-ID: <20060122095109.GC14783@tannoiser.sytes.net>

* domenica 22 gennaio 2006, alle 20:27, Rodger Donaldson scrive:
> Further investigation suggests the list poster who identified it as a
> FastCGI problem is spot on: with Typo 2.6, Ruby 1.8.2 (from
> debian-stable) and rails 0.14.3 the created_on attribute of a comment
> is always set to the start time of the typo fastcgi process.  Kill the
> process, and the time always dates to when Apache restarts it.

Hi Rodger,

I believe you have a point here.
In your opinion, is there any viable workaround?

-- 
                          Maurizio - Tannoiser - Lemmo
                 Founder Member of ERLUG http://erlug.linux.it
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Questo ip e` il mio, vero?
	-- cena linuxmeeting 2002

From rasputnik at gmail.com  Sun Jan 22 05:28:01 2006
From: rasputnik at gmail.com (Dick Davies)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:28:01 +0000
Subject: [typo] comments with created_at field wrong?
In-Reply-To: <20060122095109.GC14783@tannoiser.sytes.net>
References: <20060104003440.GA29168@tannoiser.sytes.net>
	<13853.202.49.97.7.1136335213.squirrel@israel.diaspora.gen.nz>
	<0891F275-C8DD-4419-ACD5-9A65D26DF3A3@kekova.ca>
	<20060122072702.GA17438@diaspora.gen.nz>
	<20060122095109.GC14783@tannoiser.sytes.net>
Message-ID: <3f1760601220228w6c148ean@mail.gmail.com>

Is anyone else seeing this on posting articles too?

On 22/01/06, Maurizio Lemmo - Tannoiser <tannoiser at tenzione.it> wrote:
> * domenica 22 gennaio 2006, alle 20:27, Rodger Donaldson scrive:
> > Further investigation suggests the list poster who identified it as a
> > FastCGI problem is spot on: with Typo 2.6, Ruby 1.8.2 (from
> > debian-stable) and rails 0.14.3 the created_on attribute of a comment
> > is always set to the start time of the typo fastcgi process.  Kill the
> > process, and the time always dates to when Apache restarts it.
>
> Hi Rodger,
>
> I believe you have a point here.
> In your opinion, is there any viable workaround?
>
> --
>                           Maurizio - Tannoiser - Lemmo
>                  Founder Member of ERLUG http://erlug.linux.it
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Questo ip e` il mio, vero?
>         -- cena linuxmeeting 2002
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From scott at sigkill.org  Sun Jan 22 10:37:05 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:37:05 -0800
Subject: [typo] comments with created_at field wrong?
In-Reply-To: <20060122095109.GC14783@tannoiser.sytes.net>
References: <20060104003440.GA29168@tannoiser.sytes.net>
	<13853.202.49.97.7.1136335213.squirrel@israel.diaspora.gen.nz>
	<0891F275-C8DD-4419-ACD5-9A65D26DF3A3@kekova.ca>
	<20060122072702.GA17438@diaspora.gen.nz>
	<20060122095109.GC14783@tannoiser.sytes.net>
Message-ID: <2520E846-8A07-4830-8671-45177FB1D041@sigkill.org>


On Jan 22, 2006, at 1:51 AM, Maurizio Lemmo - Tannoiser wrote:

> * domenica 22 gennaio 2006, alle 20:27, Rodger Donaldson scrive:
>> Further investigation suggests the list poster who identified it as a
>> FastCGI problem is spot on: with Typo 2.6, Ruby 1.8.2 (from
>> debian-stable) and rails 0.14.3 the created_on attribute of a comment
>> is always set to the start time of the typo fastcgi process.  Kill  
>> the
>> process, and the time always dates to when Apache restarts it.
>
> Hi Rodger,
>
> I believe you have a point here.
> In your opinion, is there any viable workaround?

That's a really bizarre bug.  Can someone search the Rails bug DB; it  
doesn't sounds like it's Typo-specific.


Scott

From scott at sigkill.org  Sun Jan 22 10:40:23 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:40:23 -0800
Subject: [typo] Failing to start
In-Reply-To: <5c0525602fb665d98da5c9f44d37478e@pepe.cryer.us>
References: <5c0525602fb665d98da5c9f44d37478e@pepe.cryer.us>
Message-ID: <8C063D31-F0AA-4AAE-8E17-D608CCE7E6B5@sigkill.org>


On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:02 PM, phil wrote:

> Typo has been running fine for months, but tonight I had a reboot  
> and now it won't start.  I've tried via Lighttpd and Webrick but  
> both fail.  I'm assuming this is more of a Ruby/Rails issue, but I  
> am unsure of what's going on, I've never seen this before.  I've  
> reinstalled lighttpd and rubygem-rails, but to no avail.  I'm  
> running FreeBSD if that matters, and am using all of the ruby/gem  
> stuff from ports, although at one time I did install some via gem  
> install, not sure if that's an issue.  Here is the output from the  
> server:
>
> [phil at pepe:~/websites/fak3r/typo]$ ./script/server -e production
> => Booting lighttpd (use 'script/server webrick' to force WEBrick)
> => Rails application started on http://127.0.0.1:3000
> => Call with -d to detach (requires absolute paths in config/ 
> lighttpd.conf)
> => Ctrl-C to shutdown server (see config/lighttpd.conf for options)
> /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/commands/servers/ 
> lighttpd.rb:52: [BUG] Segmentation fault
> ruby 1.8.4 (2005-12-24) [i386-freebsd6]
>
> Abort trap: 6 (core dumped)
>
> [phil at pepe:~/websites/fak3r/typo]$ ./script/server webrick -e  
> production
> => Booting WEBrick...
> => Rails application started on http://0.0.0.0:3000
> => Ctrl-C to shutdown server; call with --help for options
> [2006-01-21 00:00:59] INFO  WEBrick 1.3.1
> [2006-01-21 00:00:59] INFO  ruby 1.8.4 (2005-12-24) [i386-freebsd6]
> [2006-01-21 00:00:59] INFO  WEBrick::HTTPServer#start: pid=65343  
> port=3000
> /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/webrick/server.rb:162: [BUG] Segmentation  
> fault
> ruby 1.8.4 (2005-12-24) [i386-freebsd6]
>
> Abort trap: 6 (core dumped)
> [phil at pepe:~/websites/fak3r/typo]$

What have you changed recently?  If you're dying with a segmentation  
fault, then you probably have something wrong with either Ruby itself  
or one of the compiled libraries in use.


Scott


From scott at sigkill.org  Sun Jan 22 10:46:05 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:46:05 -0800
Subject: [typo] Flickr Macros not working
In-Reply-To: <loom.20060121T171646-856@post.gmane.org>
References: <loom.20060121T171646-856@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <EA5B3F2A-5E19-4736-B503-0F082C0C1465@sigkill.org>


On Jan 21, 2006, at 8:19 AM, Steven Noels wrote:
> there might be some configuration switch I'm looking over, but  
> AFAICT, the
> <typo:flickr/> and <typo:lightbox/> are not being recognized on my  
> SVN-trunk
> checkout-based blog. The Sparkline one does work, except if I add a
> (non-working) flickr or lightbox one below it, then the sparkline  
> doesn't show
> as well. The tags are being rendered in the HTML as-is, so clearly  
> they aren't
> recognized.
>
> Anyone an idea what might be causing this?

Check the logs; when an exception occurs in a filter, Typo stops  
rendering the filtered text and sticks with the original source.  We  
should probably clean this up a bit for macro filters; they should  
fail on a line-by-line basis, but it looks like we're getting more of  
an all-or-nothing failure pattern.


Scott

From scott at sigkill.org  Sun Jan 22 10:48:44 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:48:44 -0800
Subject: [typo] Pings not being sent?
In-Reply-To: <43D21A80.1050205@seagul.co.uk>
References: <43D1D605.3060509@comcast.net> <43D21A80.1050205@seagul.co.uk>
Message-ID: <29E210A0-3A84-476B-9F98-96B82D31DB57@sigkill.org>

If someone can verify that the patch works, then I'll try to apply it  
this week.


Scott

On Jan 21, 2006, at 3:26 AM, Chris Roos wrote:

> It's not currently implemented in Typo.
>
> You could apply the patch from ticket #526[1] to solve the problem.
>
> Chris
>
> [1] http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/526
>
>
> Jared Luxenberg wrote:
>> I have my settings set to automatically ping technorati and  
>> blo.gs, but
>> when I search for entries I've posted at those sites, I find nothing.
>> How can I be sure that Typo is pinging these sites properly?
>>
>> - Jared
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Typo-list mailing list
>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From scott at sigkill.org  Sun Jan 22 10:54:21 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:54:21 -0800
Subject: [typo] Heavy RAM usage? Instability?
In-Reply-To: <43D28076.8030604@dangerousideas.com>
References: <43D1E5B1.8040404@dangerousideas.com>
	<slrndt4kur.11p.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>
	<43D28076.8030604@dangerousideas.com>
Message-ID: <5C68843E-FA7F-47E3-8466-60A715B58A66@sigkill.org>


On Jan 21, 2006, at 10:41 AM, jennyw wrote:

> Justus Pendleton wrote:
>
>> Typo is the only ruby app I use and the only Rails app I use. I  
>> have no
>> basis to judge which of the three is the real culprit -- ruby,  
>> rails, or
>> typo -- but typo is a huge resource drain. And it has gotten much  
>> huger.
>> I have two instances of typo. One a relatively current SVNish install
>> that I use. That has 3 instances of ruby each using 43MB of virtual
>> memory. A friend is using an older version (2.4? 2.5?) and that  
>> one is
>> using 23MB of virtual memory.
>>
>>
>
> It's sad to hear that other people are experiencing this, too. I
> originally chose Typo because it was lighter weight than WP.  That's
> still true for LOC, which counts for a lot, but I'm surprised at how
> resource intensive it is.
>
> I've noticed that Typo takes up 50% more memory than another RoR
> application I have running (which has almost as much code as Typo).  
> I'm
> not sure why Typo is taking up so much memory, especially since it's a
> low-traffic site. In other words, the memory taken up isn't by a  
> lot of
> controller instances existing at the same time. It's the amount of
> memory taken up when there are no pages being served (but after the
> first page has been served).
>
> I haven't looked through the code thoroughly, but I notice that there
> are a lot of things loaded in environment.rb (using require_dependency
> -- since environment.rb is loaded only once, I'm pretty sure that  
> this 
> is the same as require, per
> http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/RequireDependency).  Is it
> necessary to load everything here? I don't know that everyone is going
> to be using jabber, flickr, tada, etc.  I did try and comment many of
> them out, and noticed only a small decrease in memory (of course, I
> might have missed commenting out the cuplprit(s)).
>
> I also noticed that when the site first starts up, the memory usage is
> similar to other Rails applications. After loading the first page, the
> size almost doubles, so I thought there might be something in the
> controllers causing the meory usage. And, yet, application.rb and
> articles_controller.rb seem pretty innocent -- neither, at a  
> glance, is
> loading much stuff.
>
> Any ideas what's taking up all the memory?

A couple questions:

1.  Is the memory usage fairly constant, or is it growing?  There was  
a memory leak in Rails 0.14.2 (I think) that caused Typo to grow  
without bound; that leak has been fixed, but there could be other leaks.
2.  How much memory is Typo using.  I keep hearing numbers like  
"lots", but I've only seen one set of numbers so far.

I'll try to look into this soon, but I need to fix a few bugs first,  
and my schedule has been fairly unpredictable lately.


Scott

From tannoiser at tenzione.it  Sun Jan 22 11:01:20 2006
From: tannoiser at tenzione.it (Maurizio Lemmo - Tannoiser)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:01:20 +0100
Subject: [typo] comments with created_at field wrong?
In-Reply-To: <2520E846-8A07-4830-8671-45177FB1D041@sigkill.org>
References: <20060104003440.GA29168@tannoiser.sytes.net>
	<13853.202.49.97.7.1136335213.squirrel@israel.diaspora.gen.nz>
	<0891F275-C8DD-4419-ACD5-9A65D26DF3A3@kekova.ca>
	<20060122072702.GA17438@diaspora.gen.nz>
	<20060122095109.GC14783@tannoiser.sytes.net>
	<2520E846-8A07-4830-8671-45177FB1D041@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <20060122160120.GA28659@tannoiser.sytes.net>

* domenica 22 gennaio 2006, alle 07:37, Scott Laird scrive:
> That's a really bizarre bug.  Can someone search the Rails bug DB; it  
> doesn't sounds like it's Typo-specific.

Good guess Scott.

I search a bit, and I found this: http://dev.rubyonrails.org/ticket/2257

That it seems exactly the problem (i use postgres).

They suggest a couple of workaround. The "create a trigger", seems to
me, more viable than mess with the rails code :)

I'll give a try ASAP.

-- 
                          Maurizio - Tannoiser - Lemmo
                 Founder Member of ERLUG http://erlug.linux.it
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And on the seventh day, He exited from append mode.

From jennyw at dangerousideas.com  Sun Jan 22 13:44:31 2006
From: jennyw at dangerousideas.com (jennyw)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:44:31 -0800
Subject: [typo] Heavy RAM usage? Instability?
In-Reply-To: <5C68843E-FA7F-47E3-8466-60A715B58A66@sigkill.org>
References: <43D1E5B1.8040404@dangerousideas.com>	<slrndt4kur.11p.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>	<43D28076.8030604@dangerousideas.com>
	<5C68843E-FA7F-47E3-8466-60A715B58A66@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <43D3D28F.5070604@dangerousideas.com>

Hi, Scott,

Scott Laird wrote:

 >1.  Is the memory usage fairly constant, or is it growing?  There was 
 >a memory leak in Rails 0.14.2 (I think) that caused Typo to grow 
 >without bound; that leak has been fixed, but there could be other leaks.
 >2.  How much memory is Typo using.  I keep hearing numbers like 
 >"lots", but I've only seen one set of numbers so far.
 >

There's a thread on Text Drive with some info:

http://forum.textdrive.com/viewtopic.php?id=8371

Jason, one of the admins, finds that Typon installations on at least one 
of their servers average 100 MB. I'm not sure what kind of traffic those 
installations experience, nor what plugins and themes they're using.

My own Typo installation is about 50 MB. Very low traffic.  It starts 
off at around 30 MB (like my other Rails apps) and then after the first 
page load goes to 50 MB (unlike other RoR apps, which tend to stay 
around 30 MB unless something unusual is going on). The memory usage on 
my installation of Typo doesn't grow much, although that could be 
because of low volume (I've tested with ab, too, but that doesn't prove 
much). It has gone up 2MB since yesterday, when it was steady around 50 MB.

FYI, loading the front page just now gave me a 503 error. Loading it 
again worked, and subsequent loads are working.

Also, the memory usage is pretty consistent with a couple of themes, 
including Azure and Origami.

Jen




From uzair at nairang.org  Sun Jan 22 14:22:53 2006
From: uzair at nairang.org (Syed Uzair Aqeel)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:22:53 +0500
Subject: [typo] Heavy RAM usage? Instability?
In-Reply-To: <43D3D28F.5070604@dangerousideas.com>
Message-ID: <20060122192421.69C6020143@aaa.dreamhost.com>

I see 30-45MB loads on a regular basis...but my host hasn't complained, so
I'll just stay quiet ;)
 
> FYI, loading the front page just now gave me a 503 error. Loading it
> again worked, and subsequent loads are working.

I see this a *lot*. Not just when restarting, but even just when clearing
the cache...

Uzair


From typo-list at jasonbainbridge.com  Sun Jan 22 14:25:36 2006
From: typo-list at jasonbainbridge.com (Jason Bainbridge)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:25:36 -0600
Subject: [typo] Heavy RAM usage? Instability?
In-Reply-To: 43D3D28F.5070604@dangerousideas.com
Message-ID: <0f70625cf6bf8802f2fcf71ed7cdbf0c@jasonbainbridge.com>


On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:44:31 -0800, jennyw <jennyw at dangerousideas.com> wrote:
> Hi, Scott,
> 
> Scott Laird wrote:
> 
>  >1.  Is the memory usage fairly constant, or is it growing?  There was
>  >a memory leak in Rails 0.14.2 (I think) that caused Typo to grow
>  >without bound; that leak has been fixed, but there could be other leaks.
>  >2.  How much memory is Typo using.  I keep hearing numbers like
>  >"lots", but I've only seen one set of numbers so far.
>  >
> 
> There's a thread on Text Drive with some info:
> 
> http://forum.textdrive.com/viewtopic.php?id=8371

Reading that thread made me realize one thing, I am NEVER going to use or recommend TextDrive to anyone, is it possible for admins to be any more immature than that?

What is the best way on a Linux system to determine how much memory Typo is using? Looking at top my three ruby processes look like:

17219 jaseone    9   0 23908  22m 1952 S  0.0  0.5   0:13.01 ruby                                                                                                                                                
17220 jaseone    9   0 23188 1260 1256 S  0.0  0.0   0:07.47 ruby                                                                                                                                                
17221 jaseone    9   0 22060  948  944 S  0.0  0.0   0:02.81 ruby

That is on a very low traffic test install though but I did try some rapid refreshes to try to bump it up with no joy, the site is typo.jasonbainbridge.com. I am also not using FastCGI like most others and instead am using SCGI so does that maybe make a difference? 

Regards,
--
An Aussie geek stuck in Texas
http://jasonbainbridge.com


From tannoiser at tenzione.it  Sun Jan 22 14:37:53 2006
From: tannoiser at tenzione.it (Maurizio Lemmo - Tannoiser)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:37:53 +0100
Subject: [typo] comments with created_at field wrong?
In-Reply-To: <20060122160120.GA28659@tannoiser.sytes.net>
References: <20060104003440.GA29168@tannoiser.sytes.net>
	<13853.202.49.97.7.1136335213.squirrel@israel.diaspora.gen.nz>
	<0891F275-C8DD-4419-ACD5-9A65D26DF3A3@kekova.ca>
	<20060122072702.GA17438@diaspora.gen.nz>
	<20060122095109.GC14783@tannoiser.sytes.net>
	<2520E846-8A07-4830-8671-45177FB1D041@sigkill.org>
	<20060122160120.GA28659@tannoiser.sytes.net>
Message-ID: <20060122193752.GB24930@tannoiser.sytes.net>

* domenica 22 gennaio 2006, alle 17:01, Maurizio Lemmo - Tannoiser scrive:
> I search a bit, and I found this: http://dev.rubyonrails.org/ticket/2257

On this subject, again, i tested this sql code:

CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION my_fix_time() RETURNS trigger AS '
BEGIN
new.created_at = current_timestamp;
return new;
END;
' language plpgsql;

CREATE TRIGGER my_fix_time_comment before insert on comments for each
row execute procedure my_fix_time();

CREATE TRIGGER my_fix_time_articles before insert on articles for each
row execute procedure my_fix_time();

That seems solve the created_at issue.
I share it because different from what suggested on dev.rubyonrails (I
guess it depends from postgres version)

It's a temporary solution, but better than update manually the entry in
the db... :)

HTH.

-- 
                          Maurizio - Tannoiser - Lemmo
                 Founder Member of ERLUG http://erlug.linux.it
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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	-- Veronica Mars: 1x01

From rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz  Sun Jan 22 15:14:25 2006
From: rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz (Rodger Donaldson)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:14:25 +1300
Subject: [typo] comments with created_at field wrong?
In-Reply-To: <20060122193752.GB24930@tannoiser.sytes.net>
References: <20060104003440.GA29168@tannoiser.sytes.net>
	<13853.202.49.97.7.1136335213.squirrel@israel.diaspora.gen.nz>
	<0891F275-C8DD-4419-ACD5-9A65D26DF3A3@kekova.ca>
	<20060122072702.GA17438@diaspora.gen.nz>
	<20060122095109.GC14783@tannoiser.sytes.net>
	<2520E846-8A07-4830-8671-45177FB1D041@sigkill.org>
	<20060122160120.GA28659@tannoiser.sytes.net>
	<20060122193752.GB24930@tannoiser.sytes.net>
Message-ID: <20060122201425.GA29394@diaspora.gen.nz>

On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 08:37:53PM +0100, Maurizio Lemmo - Tannoiser wrote:
> I share it because different from what suggested on dev.rubyonrails (I
> guess it depends from postgres version)
> 
> It's a temporary solution, but better than update manually the entry in
> the db... :)

Works a charm on my setup.  Thanks.

-- 
Rodger Donaldson		rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz

From stevenn at outerthought.org  Sun Jan 22 15:45:42 2006
From: stevenn at outerthought.org (Steven Noels)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:45:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [typo] Flickr Macros not working
References: <loom.20060121T171646-856@post.gmane.org>
	<EA5B3F2A-5E19-4736-B503-0F082C0C1465@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <loom.20060122T214253-858@post.gmane.org>

Scott Laird <scott <at> sigkill.org> writes:

> Check the logs; when an exception occurs in a filter, Typo stops  
> rendering the filtered text and sticks with the original source.

Yes, see my other message. I'm waiting for my hosting company to confirm whether
it's a Ruby/OpenSSL issue. Logging of the macro execution _is_ pretty terse, and
in production mode the error (because it _is_ an error) isn't even logged.

> We  
> should probably clean this up a bit for macro filters; they should  
> fail on a line-by-line basis, but it looks like we're getting more of  
> an all-or-nothing failure pattern.

Thanks,

Steven.


From steve.longdo at gmail.com  Sun Jan 22 19:27:25 2006
From: steve.longdo at gmail.com (Steve Longdo)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:27:25 -0600
Subject: [typo] Difficulty in developing sidebar plugin...
Message-ID: <cc4e85f30601221627x78be4400y7a017d80d4a2225@mail.gmail.com>

I've been working on a sidebar plugin for polling.  I would like to have the
poll show up with AJAX voting links which someone could click and then the
DOM for the polling piece would be updated with the poll results.  Sounds
reasonable right?

When trying to link_to_remote my plugin controller I receive the following
error.  Any ideas for how to have sidebars with more than one "page" of
content to them?

uninitialized constant Plugin

RAILS_ROOT: .
Application Trace | Framework Trace | Full Trace

/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:200:in
`const_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:72:in
`const_missing'
#{RAILS_ROOT}/components/plugins/sidebars/poll_controller.rb:1
routing.rb:234:in `traverse_to_controller'
generated/routing/recognition.rb:427:in `eval'
generated/routing/recognition.rb:427:in `recognize_path'

/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:200:in
`const_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:72:in
`const_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:207:in
`load'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:39:in
`require_or_load'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:22:in
`depend_on'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:178:in
`require_dependency'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:134:in
`load_file!'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:97:in
`const_load!'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:80:in
`const_load!'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:72:in
`const_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:234:in
`traverse_to_controller'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:458:in
`recognize!'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/dispatcher.rb:38:in
`dispatch'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/fcgi_handler.rb:141:in
`process_request'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/fcgi_handler.rb:53:in
`process!'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/fcgi.rb:600:in `each_cgi'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/fcgi.rb:117:in `session'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/fcgi.rb:104:in `each_request'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/fcgi.rb:36:in `each'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/fcgi.rb:597:in `each_cgi'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/fcgi_handler.rb:52:in
`process!'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/fcgi_handler.rb:22:in
`process!'
public/dispatch.fcgi:24

/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:200:in
`const_missing'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:72:in
`const_missing'
#{RAILS_ROOT}/components/plugins/sidebars/poll_controller.rb:1
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:207:in
`load'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:39:in
`require_or_load'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:22:in
`depend_on'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:178:in
`require_dependency'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:134:in
`load_file!'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:97:in
`const_load!'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:80:in
`const_load!'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-1.2.5/lib/active_support/dependencies.rb:72:in
`const_missing'
routing.rb:234:in `traverse_to_controller'
generated/routing/recognition.rb:427:in `eval'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:234:in
`traverse_to_controller'
generated/routing/recognition.rb:427:in `recognize_path'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-1.11.2/lib/action_controller/routing.rb:458:in
`recognize!'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/dispatcher.rb:38:in
`dispatch'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/fcgi_handler.rb:141:in
`process_request'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/fcgi_handler.rb:53:in
`process!'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/fcgi.rb:600:in `each_cgi'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/fcgi.rb:117:in `session'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/fcgi.rb:104:in `each_request'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/fcgi.rb:36:in `each'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/fcgi.rb:597:in `each_cgi'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/fcgi_handler.rb:52:in
`process!'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-1.0.0/lib/fcgi_handler.rb:22:in
`process!'
public/dispatch.fcgi:24

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   ./components/plugins/sidebars/poll_controller.rb
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From phil at cryer.us  Sun Jan 22 22:28:31 2006
From: phil at cryer.us (phil)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:28:31 -0600
Subject: [typo] Failing to start
In-Reply-To: 8C063D31-F0AA-4AAE-8E17-D608CCE7E6B5@sigkill.org
Message-ID: <6f2a968e15a748801dc5886f955c4db1@pepe.cryer.us>

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 07:40:23 -0800, Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org> wrote:
> 
> On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:02 PM, phil wrote:
> 
>> Typo has been running fine for months, but tonight I had a reboot
>> and now it won't start.  I've tried via Lighttpd and Webrick but
>> both fail.  I'm assuming this is more of a Ruby/Rails issue, but I
>> am unsure of what's going on, I've never seen this before.  I've
>> reinstalled lighttpd and rubygem-rails, but to no avail.  I'm
>> running FreeBSD if that matters, and am using all of the ruby/gem
>> stuff from ports, although at one time I did install some via gem
>> install, not sure if that's an issue.  Here is the output from the
>> server:
 
> What have you changed recently?  If you're dying with a segmentation
> fault, then you probably have something wrong with either Ruby itself
> or one of the compiled libraries in use.

Thanks Scott
Not sure what I've changed, I'm always updating FreeBSD, but again, Typo worked fine and I was updating/stop/starting it all the time and such, so why it only showed up after a reboot is a mystery.  Regardless I poked around and re-installed rubygem-actionpack and things are back to normal.  Thanks again.

P
-- 
http://fak3r.com - you don't have to kick it


From chris at seagul.co.uk  Mon Jan 23 03:57:36 2006
From: chris at seagul.co.uk (Chris Roos)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:57:36 +0000
Subject: [typo] Pings not being sent?
In-Reply-To: <29E210A0-3A84-476B-9F98-96B82D31DB57@sigkill.org>
References: <43D1D605.3060509@comcast.net> <43D21A80.1050205@seagul.co.uk>
	<29E210A0-3A84-476B-9F98-96B82D31DB57@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <43D49A80.6060802@seagul.co.uk>

Hi Scott,

The patch over-rides the sending of trackbacks (standard http get) with 
the sending of 'pings' (xmlrpc).  Although trackbacks are currently 
created and sent in the correct format, they are almost never sent to 
the correct trackback url; rather they are sent to the url of the post 
itself.  Bearing this in mind I'd suggest it's ok to merge this patch 
until a more all encompassing (supporting trackback, pingback and 
notification to blog aggregators) patch can be created.

Chris

Scott Laird wrote:
> If someone can verify that the patch works, then I'll try to apply it  
> this week.
> 
> 
> Scott
> 
> On Jan 21, 2006, at 3:26 AM, Chris Roos wrote:
> 
>> It's not currently implemented in Typo.
>>
>> You could apply the patch from ticket #526[1] to solve the problem.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> [1] http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/526
>>
>>
>> Jared Luxenberg wrote:
>>> I have my settings set to automatically ping technorati and  
>>> blo.gs, but
>>> when I search for entries I've posted at those sites, I find nothing.
>>> How can I be sure that Typo is pinging these sites properly?
>>>
>>> - Jared
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Typo-list mailing list
>>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>> _______________________________________________
>> Typo-list mailing list
>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From cedric at feelfree.homelinux.com  Mon Jan 23 04:48:28 2006
From: cedric at feelfree.homelinux.com (cedric)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:48:28 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [typo] Pings not being sent?
In-Reply-To: <43D49A80.6060802@seagul.co.uk>
References: <43D1D605.3060509@comcast.net> <43D21A80.1050205@seagul.co.uk>
	<29E210A0-3A84-476B-9F98-96B82D31DB57@sigkill.org>
	<43D49A80.6060802@seagul.co.uk>
Message-ID: <19695.212.215.1.67.1138009708.squirrel@kobayazen.ath.cx>

Hi all,

Sorry for the silly question but what is the command to apply a patch?
I would like to test this patch too but I'm not very easy with patch
commands!

Thanks for your explanations.

> Hi Scott,
>
> The patch over-rides the sending of trackbacks (standard http get) with
> the sending of 'pings' (xmlrpc).  Although trackbacks are currently
> created and sent in the correct format, they are almost never sent to
> the correct trackback url; rather they are sent to the url of the post
> itself.  Bearing this in mind I'd suggest it's ok to merge this patch
> until a more all encompassing (supporting trackback, pingback and
> notification to blog aggregators) patch can be created.
>
> Chris
>
> Scott Laird wrote:
>> If someone can verify that the patch works, then I'll try to apply it
>> this week.
>>
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2006, at 3:26 AM, Chris Roos wrote:
>>
>>> It's not currently implemented in Typo.
>>>
>>> You could apply the patch from ticket #526[1] to solve the problem.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> [1] http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/526
>>>
>>>
>>> Jared Luxenberg wrote:
>>>> I have my settings set to automatically ping technorati and
>>>> blo.gs, but
>>>> when I search for entries I've posted at those sites, I find nothing.
>>>> How can I be sure that Typo is pinging these sites properly?
>>>>
>>>> - Jared
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Typo-list mailing list
>>>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Typo-list mailing list
>>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Typo-list mailing list
>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>



From victor-typo at carotena.net  Mon Jan 23 05:54:09 2006
From: victor-typo at carotena.net (Victor Jalencas)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:54:09 +0100
Subject: [typo] Heavy RAM usage? Instability?
In-Reply-To: <43D3D28F.5070604@dangerousideas.com>
References: <43D1E5B1.8040404@dangerousideas.com>	<slrndt4kur.11p.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>	<43D28076.8030604@dangerousideas.com>	<5C68843E-FA7F-47E3-8466-60A715B58A66@sigkill.org>
	<43D3D28F.5070604@dangerousideas.com>
Message-ID: <43D4B5D1.7010604@carotena.net>

I'm realizing that if typo allowed for multi-blog installations, perhaps 
I could reduce the memory consumption, because I have like 5 concurrent 
instances of Typo to serve 5 different blogs. If I could combine them 
somehow, a single dispatch would be enough for all of them.

I think I saw someone mentioning that he was working on having this 
happen. I'd definitely benefit of that change, but I realize that this 
implies major architectural changes and that it won't be easy to merge 
these changes into the main codebase, unless the maintainers put a 
voluntary effort to facilitate that.

  Scott, Tobi, what do you say of having Typo be multi-blog capable?


Victor

jennyw wrote:
> Hi, Scott,
> 
> Scott Laird wrote:
> 
>  >1.  Is the memory usage fairly constant, or is it growing?  There was 
>  >a memory leak in Rails 0.14.2 (I think) that caused Typo to grow 
>  >without bound; that leak has been fixed, but there could be other leaks.
>  >2.  How much memory is Typo using.  I keep hearing numbers like 
>  >"lots", but I've only seen one set of numbers so far.
>  >
> 
> There's a thread on Text Drive with some info:
> 
> http://forum.textdrive.com/viewtopic.php?id=8371
> 
> Jason, one of the admins, finds that Typon installations on at least one 
> of their servers average 100 MB. I'm not sure what kind of traffic those 
> installations experience, nor what plugins and themes they're using.
> 
> My own Typo installation is about 50 MB. Very low traffic.  It starts 
> off at around 30 MB (like my other Rails apps) and then after the first 
> page load goes to 50 MB (unlike other RoR apps, which tend to stay 
> around 30 MB unless something unusual is going on). The memory usage on 
> my installation of Typo doesn't grow much, although that could be 
> because of low volume (I've tested with ab, too, but that doesn't prove 
> much). It has gone up 2MB since yesterday, when it was steady around 50 MB.
> 
> FYI, loading the front page just now gave me a 503 error. Loading it 
> again worked, and subsequent loads are working.
> 
> Also, the memory usage is pretty consistent with a couple of themes, 
> including Azure and Origami.
> 
> Jen
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From scott at sigkill.org  Mon Jan 23 10:03:38 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 07:03:38 -0800
Subject: [typo] Heavy RAM usage? Instability?
In-Reply-To: <43D4B5D1.7010604@carotena.net>
References: <43D1E5B1.8040404@dangerousideas.com>	<slrndt4kur.11p.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>	<43D28076.8030604@dangerousideas.com>	<5C68843E-FA7F-47E3-8466-60A715B58A66@sigkill.org>
	<43D3D28F.5070604@dangerousideas.com>
	<43D4B5D1.7010604@carotena.net>
Message-ID: <A2CD39C5-3849-4AAF-9103-A0252C7A0A1C@sigkill.org>


On Jan 23, 2006, at 2:54 AM, Victor Jalencas wrote:

> I'm realizing that if typo allowed for multi-blog installations,  
> perhaps
> I could reduce the memory consumption, because I have like 5  
> concurrent
> instances of Typo to serve 5 different blogs. If I could combine them
> somehow, a single dispatch would be enough for all of them.
>
> I think I saw someone mentioning that he was working on having this
> happen. I'd definitely benefit of that change, but I realize that this
> implies major architectural changes and that it won't be easy to merge
> these changes into the main codebase, unless the maintainers put a
> voluntary effort to facilitate that.
>
>   Scott, Tobi, what do you say of having Typo be multi-blog capable?

Multi-blog support would be interesting, and fairly useful, but it'll  
almost certainly be a big, invasive patch.  It'll have to touch a  
*lot* of code, and it'll be difficult to write.

I'm not against it, but I don't feel any desire to write the code  
myself.


Scott

From scott at sigkill.org  Mon Jan 23 10:04:03 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 07:04:03 -0800
Subject: [typo] Pings not being sent?
In-Reply-To: <19695.212.215.1.67.1138009708.squirrel@kobayazen.ath.cx>
References: <43D1D605.3060509@comcast.net> <43D21A80.1050205@seagul.co.uk>
	<29E210A0-3A84-476B-9F98-96B82D31DB57@sigkill.org>
	<43D49A80.6060802@seagul.co.uk>
	<19695.212.215.1.67.1138009708.squirrel@kobayazen.ath.cx>
Message-ID: <66A4AC78-C84D-4E3D-8FD8-29EA4668CC87@sigkill.org>

The command to apply a patch is 'patch' :-).


Scott

On Jan 23, 2006, at 1:48 AM, cedric wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Sorry for the silly question but what is the command to apply a patch?
> I would like to test this patch too but I'm not very easy with patch
> commands!
>
> Thanks for your explanations.
>
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> The patch over-rides the sending of trackbacks (standard http get)  
>> with
>> the sending of 'pings' (xmlrpc).  Although trackbacks are currently
>> created and sent in the correct format, they are almost never sent to
>> the correct trackback url; rather they are sent to the url of the  
>> post
>> itself.  Bearing this in mind I'd suggest it's ok to merge this patch
>> until a more all encompassing (supporting trackback, pingback and
>> notification to blog aggregators) patch can be created.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Scott Laird wrote:
>>> If someone can verify that the patch works, then I'll try to  
>>> apply it
>>> this week.
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2006, at 3:26 AM, Chris Roos wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's not currently implemented in Typo.
>>>>
>>>> You could apply the patch from ticket #526[1] to solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/526
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jared Luxenberg wrote:
>>>>> I have my settings set to automatically ping technorati and
>>>>> blo.gs, but
>>>>> when I search for entries I've posted at those sites, I find  
>>>>> nothing.
>>>>> How can I be sure that Typo is pinging these sites properly?
>>>>>
>>>>> - Jared
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Typo-list mailing list
>>>>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Typo-list mailing list
>>>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Typo-list mailing list
>>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Typo-list mailing list
>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From scott at sigkill.org  Mon Jan 23 10:04:56 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 07:04:56 -0800
Subject: [typo] Pings not being sent?
In-Reply-To: <43D49A80.6060802@seagul.co.uk>
References: <43D1D605.3060509@comcast.net> <43D21A80.1050205@seagul.co.uk>
	<29E210A0-3A84-476B-9F98-96B82D31DB57@sigkill.org>
	<43D49A80.6060802@seagul.co.uk>
Message-ID: <463A4AD9-8D33-45D8-9D91-48A6032A7613@sigkill.org>

Hmm, okay.  Is anyone working on trackbacks?


Scott

On Jan 23, 2006, at 12:57 AM, Chris Roos wrote:

> Hi Scott,
>
> The patch over-rides the sending of trackbacks (standard http get)  
> with
> the sending of 'pings' (xmlrpc).  Although trackbacks are currently
> created and sent in the correct format, they are almost never sent to
> the correct trackback url; rather they are sent to the url of the post
> itself.  Bearing this in mind I'd suggest it's ok to merge this patch
> until a more all encompassing (supporting trackback, pingback and
> notification to blog aggregators) patch can be created.
>
> Chris
>
> Scott Laird wrote:
>> If someone can verify that the patch works, then I'll try to apply it
>> this week.
>>
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2006, at 3:26 AM, Chris Roos wrote:
>>
>>> It's not currently implemented in Typo.
>>>
>>> You could apply the patch from ticket #526[1] to solve the problem.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> [1] http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/526
>>>
>>>
>>> Jared Luxenberg wrote:
>>>> I have my settings set to automatically ping technorati and
>>>> blo.gs, but
>>>> when I search for entries I've posted at those sites, I find  
>>>> nothing.
>>>> How can I be sure that Typo is pinging these sites properly?
>>>>
>>>> - Jared
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Typo-list mailing list
>>>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Typo-list mailing list
>>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Typo-list mailing list
>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From typo-list at jasonbainbridge.com  Mon Jan 23 10:09:25 2006
From: typo-list at jasonbainbridge.com (Jason Bainbridge)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 9:09:25 -0600
Subject: [typo] Pings not being sent?
In-Reply-To: 66A4AC78-C84D-4E3D-8FD8-29EA4668CC87@sigkill.org
Message-ID: <8e26b25458a583200075432c1f8afc73@jasonbainbridge.com>




On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 07:04:03 -0800, Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org> wrote:
> The command to apply a patch is 'patch' :-).

and there is a quick howto at:

http://typoforums.org/index.php/topic,20.0.html

Regards,
--
An Aussie geek stuck in Texas
http://jasonbainbridge.com


From scott at sigkill.org  Mon Jan 23 11:23:23 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:23:23 -0800
Subject: [typo] Bugs to work on
Message-ID: <377705AC-5BD0-4D19-995C-BE6FAA8D9873@sigkill.org>

I've obviously been a bit out of touch lately, but I think I can  
finally get back to Typo hacking.  At the moment, we have 133 open  
tickets, which is a bit more then I really feel like tackling at the  
moment.  Is there any sort of consensus on which bugs are the more  
irritating, an/or which patches are most in need of being applied?


Scott

From chris at seagul.co.uk  Mon Jan 23 12:14:26 2006
From: chris at seagul.co.uk (Chris Roos)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:14:26 +0000
Subject: [typo] Pings not being sent?
In-Reply-To: <463A4AD9-8D33-45D8-9D91-48A6032A7613@sigkill.org>
References: <43D1D605.3060509@comcast.net>
	<43D21A80.1050205@seagul.co.uk>	<29E210A0-3A84-476B-9F98-96B82D31DB57@sigkill.org>	<43D49A80.6060802@seagul.co.uk>
	<463A4AD9-8D33-45D8-9D91-48A6032A7613@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <43D50EF2.7010909@seagul.co.uk>

I am happy to do it, just really not sure when I can get round to it. 
I'll see if I can get a couple of hours this weekend.

Chris

Scott Laird wrote:
> Hmm, okay.  Is anyone working on trackbacks?
> 
> 
> Scott
> 
> On Jan 23, 2006, at 12:57 AM, Chris Roos wrote:
> 
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> The patch over-rides the sending of trackbacks (standard http get)  
>> with
>> the sending of 'pings' (xmlrpc).  Although trackbacks are currently
>> created and sent in the correct format, they are almost never sent to
>> the correct trackback url; rather they are sent to the url of the post
>> itself.  Bearing this in mind I'd suggest it's ok to merge this patch
>> until a more all encompassing (supporting trackback, pingback and
>> notification to blog aggregators) patch can be created.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Scott Laird wrote:
>>> If someone can verify that the patch works, then I'll try to apply it
>>> this week.
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2006, at 3:26 AM, Chris Roos wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's not currently implemented in Typo.
>>>>
>>>> You could apply the patch from ticket #526[1] to solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/526
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jared Luxenberg wrote:
>>>>> I have my settings set to automatically ping technorati and
>>>>> blo.gs, but
>>>>> when I search for entries I've posted at those sites, I find  
>>>>> nothing.
>>>>> How can I be sure that Typo is pinging these sites properly?
>>>>>
>>>>> - Jared
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Typo-list mailing list
>>>>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Typo-list mailing list
>>>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Typo-list mailing list
>>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>> _______________________________________________
>> Typo-list mailing list
>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From cedric at feelfree.homelinux.com  Mon Jan 23 12:15:50 2006
From: cedric at feelfree.homelinux.com (cedric)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:15:50 +0100
Subject: [typo] Bugs to work on
In-Reply-To: <377705AC-5BD0-4D19-995C-BE6FAA8D9873@sigkill.org>
References: <377705AC-5BD0-4D19-995C-BE6FAA8D9873@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <200601231815.52689.cedric@feelfree.homelinux.com>

Could it be helpful that the one interested should put their priority list on 
the wiki to see which point is important. 
Or perhaps to establish a  kind of freeze? that's just some ideas...
I would like to help but my programming knowledge is very poor.

Le Lundi 23 Janvier 2006 17:23, Scott Laird a ?crit?:
> I've obviously been a bit out of touch lately, but I think I can
> finally get back to Typo hacking.  At the moment, we have 133 open
> tickets, which is a bit more then I really feel like tackling at the
> moment.  Is there any sort of consensus on which bugs are the more
> irritating, an/or which patches are most in need of being applied?
>
>
> Scott
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From schwarz at uchicago.edu  Mon Jan 23 12:33:38 2006
From: schwarz at uchicago.edu (Jack Schwarz)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:33:38 -0600
Subject: [typo] Bugs to work on
In-Reply-To: <200601231815.52689.cedric@feelfree.homelinux.com>
References: <377705AC-5BD0-4D19-995C-BE6FAA8D9873@sigkill.org>
	<200601231815.52689.cedric@feelfree.homelinux.com>
Message-ID: <c74013cc0601230933x45fc8c1fi6ee692b7bff5b3cb@mail.gmail.com>

I think we should work on cleaning up the current code and dealing
with memory issues [see other thread] before looking to add more
features. My page with a bare bones sidebar uses 50 megs for each of
my two dispatchers. By most accounts this seems a bit excessive.

Regards,

Jack

On 1/23/06, cedric <cedric at feelfree.homelinux.com> wrote:
> Could it be helpful that the one interested should put their priority list on
> the wiki to see which point is important.
> Or perhaps to establish a  kind of freeze? that's just some ideas...
> I would like to help but my programming knowledge is very poor.
>
> Le Lundi 23 Janvier 2006 17:23, Scott Laird a ?crit:
> > I've obviously been a bit out of touch lately, but I think I can
> > finally get back to Typo hacking.  At the moment, we have 133 open
> > tickets, which is a bit more then I really feel like tackling at the
> > moment.  Is there any sort of consensus on which bugs are the more
> > irritating, an/or which patches are most in need of being applied?
> >
> >
> > Scott
> > _______________________________________________
> > Typo-list mailing list
> > Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>


From stephen at deanbrook.org  Mon Jan 23 13:32:24 2006
From: stephen at deanbrook.org (Stephen Bannasch)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:32:24 -0500
Subject: [typo] Heavy RAM usage? Instability?
In-Reply-To: <43D3D28F.5070604@dangerousideas.com>
References: <43D1E5B1.8040404@dangerousideas.com>
	<slrndt4kur.11p.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>
	<43D28076.8030604@dangerousideas.com>
	<5C68843E-FA7F-47E3-8466-60A715B58A66@sigkill.org>
	<43D3D28F.5070604@dangerousideas.com>
Message-ID: <p06230912bffac85de497@[192.168.1.103]>

>Hi, Scott,
>
>Scott Laird wrote:
>
> >1.  Is the memory usage fairly constant, or is it growing?  There was
> >a memory leak in Rails 0.14.2 (I think) that caused Typo to grow
> >without bound; that leak has been fixed, but there could be other leaks.
> >2.  How much memory is Typo using.  I keep hearing numbers like
> >"lots", but I've only seen one set of numbers so far.
> >
>
>My own Typo installation is about 50 MB. Very low traffic.  It starts
>off at around 30 MB (like my other Rails apps) and then after the first
>page load goes to 50 MB (unlike other RoR apps, which tend to stay
>around 30 MB unless something unusual is going on). The memory usage on
>my installation of Typo doesn't grow much, although that could be
>because of low volume (I've tested with ab, too, but that doesn't prove
>much). It has gone up 2MB since yesterday, when it was steady around 50 MB.

According to Julik (a textdrive sysadmin) his experience is that most rails apps take between 20-70MB -- 50MB is right in the middle of this range. Elsewhere in the posting linked below he talks about minimizing the number of fcgi listeners.

http://weblog.textdrive.com/article/175/rails-optimizing-resource-usage

"A Rails application usually consumes anywhere from 20 to 50-70 Mb per FastCGI dispatcher. If a Rails application is tuned properly this amount should stabilize after about 20 requests and stay the same. "

-- 

-- Stephen Bannasch, stephen at deanbrook dot org

From edavis10 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 23 23:40:08 2006
From: edavis10 at gmail.com (edavis10@gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:40:08 -0800
Subject: [typo] Heavy RAM usage? Instability?
In-Reply-To: <p06230912bffac85de497@[192.168.1.103]>
References: <43D1E5B1.8040404@dangerousideas.com>	<slrndt4kur.11p.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>	<43D28076.8030604@dangerousideas.com>	<5C68843E-FA7F-47E3-8466-60A715B58A66@sigkill.org>	<43D3D28F.5070604@dangerousideas.com>
	<p06230912bffac85de497@[192.168.1.103]>
Message-ID: <43D5AFA8.6020406@gmail.com>

Stephen Bannasch wrote:

> According to Julik (a textdrive sysadmin) his experience is that most
rails apps take between 20-70MB -- 50MB is right in the middle of this
range. Elsewhere in the posting linked below he talks about minimizing
the number of fcgi listeners.
>
> http://weblog.textdrive.com/article/175/rails-optimizing-resource-usage
>
> "A Rails application usually consumes anywhere from 20 to 50-70 Mb per
FastCGI dispatcher. If a Rails application is tuned properly this amount
should stabilize after about 20 requests and stay the same. "
>


Mine is around 45MB for each FCGI I have.  Site does not take a lot of
hits but has been up for a while now.

30807 	www-data 	45640 kB 	ruby
/home/websites/theadmin/web/public/dispatch.fcgi

30808 	www-data 	45108 kB 	ruby
/home/websites/theadmin/web/public/dispatch.fcgi

I have another that gets 0 hits and it is at about 36MB per FCGI.

(All of this is moot when I noticed mysqld is taking over 121MB and only
powers my Typo installs)

Eric Davis

From alimills at gmail.com  Mon Jan 23 23:54:59 2006
From: alimills at gmail.com (Ali Mills)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:54:59 -0800
Subject: [typo] Tag cloud?
Message-ID: <6853c3aa0601232054h141f73afx4de1db1f3dd97505@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I just installed my first instance of Typo, and I'm wondering - is
there default support for tagging articles in Typo?  I searched the
wiki, and while there were discussions of tags I couldn't tell if
they're part of the default Typo package.

After looking at the database, I suspect that they're not, and that I
have to do some tweaking with acts_as_taggable
(http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/Acts+As+Taggable+Plugin). 
But then, after looking at http://blog.leetsoft.com/ and
http://typogarden.com/articles/2005/11/28/lush-theme I thought that
maybe there's hope, and I thought that I'd ask.

So, is there default support for article tags in Typo?

Thanks.


Ali


From scott at sigkill.org  Tue Jan 24 00:00:43 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:00:43 -0800
Subject: [typo] Tag cloud?
In-Reply-To: <6853c3aa0601232054h141f73afx4de1db1f3dd97505@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6853c3aa0601232054h141f73afx4de1db1f3dd97505@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7C18D349-5F62-4A53-9E1D-7E90C50027F5@sigkill.org>

There's tag support in the trunk, but not in 2.6.0.  It's populated  
via the 'keywords' field--use spaces to separate the tags.


Scott

On Jan 23, 2006, at 8:54 PM, Ali Mills wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just installed my first instance of Typo, and I'm wondering - is
> there default support for tagging articles in Typo?  I searched the
> wiki, and while there were discussions of tags I couldn't tell if
> they're part of the default Typo package.
>
> After looking at the database, I suspect that they're not, and that I
> have to do some tweaking with acts_as_taggable
> (http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/Acts+As+Taggable+Plugin).
> But then, after looking at http://blog.leetsoft.com/ and
> http://typogarden.com/articles/2005/11/28/lush-theme I thought that
> maybe there's hope, and I thought that I'd ask.
>
> So, is there default support for article tags in Typo?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Ali
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From jennyw at dangerousideas.com  Tue Jan 24 00:23:54 2006
From: jennyw at dangerousideas.com (jennyw)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:23:54 -0800
Subject: [typo] Heavy RAM usage? Instability?
In-Reply-To: <43D5AFA8.6020406@gmail.com>
References: <43D1E5B1.8040404@dangerousideas.com>	<slrndt4kur.11p.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>	<43D28076.8030604@dangerousideas.com>	<5C68843E-FA7F-47E3-8466-60A715B58A66@sigkill.org>	<43D3D28F.5070604@dangerousideas.com>	<p06230912bffac85de497@[192.168.1.103]>
	<43D5AFA8.6020406@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43D5B9EA.8020304@dangerousideas.com>

edavis10 at gmail.com wrote:

>Stephen Bannasch wrote:
>
>  
>
>>According to Julik (a textdrive sysadmin) his experience is that most
>>    
>>
>rails apps take between 20-70MB -- 50MB is right in the middle of this
>range. Elsewhere in the posting linked below he talks about minimizing
>the number of fcgi listeners.
>  
>
That was written a while ago ... I don't know if things have changed, 
but Jason is now saying their Rails apps take up 25-30 MB.

The thing is, 50 MB might or might not be right -- it's hard to judge 
without knowing what Typo is loading. But if other applications can be 
around 30 MB (including mine), then that extra 20 MB should be for 
something that justifies that much memory. Right now, I'm not sure what 
you could load that would take up 20 MB to display a few pages. If it's 
intentional, we should document it, but it might not be intentional, in 
which case it deserves a look.

By the way, the behavior of my Typo is interesting. When it first runs, 
it's around 30MB (before any controllers are invoked). After the first 
page load, it goes up to 50MB.  I load a bunch of pages and it's still 
at 50 MB.  A day or so later, it'll be at 52 MB (during the time I've 
checked, it hasn't been up for more than about a day), and I'm pretty 
sure that no pages besides the ones I loaded earlier are being hit.

>(All of this is moot when I noticed mysqld is taking over 121MB and only
>powers my Typo installs)
>  
>
Now that's pretty intersting, also. How many Ruby processes do you have 
running at once?

Jen


From nikanorov at gmail.com  Tue Jan 24 04:27:27 2006
From: nikanorov at gmail.com (Andrey Nikanorov)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:27:27 +0300
Subject: [typo] Heavy RAM usage? Instability?
In-Reply-To: <p06230912bffac85de497@192.168.1.103>
References: <43D1E5B1.8040404@dangerousideas.com>
	<slrndt4kur.11p.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>
	<43D28076.8030604@dangerousideas.com>
	<5C68843E-FA7F-47E3-8466-60A715B58A66@sigkill.org>
	<43D3D28F.5070604@dangerousideas.com>
	<p06230912bffac85de497@192.168.1.103>
Message-ID: <a0c35bf80601240127n1ab64857vf0b02c4b412e4537@mail.gmail.com>

Julik is not textdrive sysadmin =)

On 1/23/06, Stephen Bannasch <stephen at deanbrook.org> wrote:
> >Hi, Scott,
> >
> >Scott Laird wrote:
> >
> > >1.  Is the memory usage fairly constant, or is it growing?  There was
> > >a memory leak in Rails 0.14.2 (I think) that caused Typo to grow
> > >without bound; that leak has been fixed, but there could be other leaks.
> > >2.  How much memory is Typo using.  I keep hearing numbers like
> > >"lots", but I've only seen one set of numbers so far.
> > >
> >
> >My own Typo installation is about 50 MB. Very low traffic.  It starts
> >off at around 30 MB (like my other Rails apps) and then after the first
> >page load goes to 50 MB (unlike other RoR apps, which tend to stay
> >around 30 MB unless something unusual is going on). The memory usage on
> >my installation of Typo doesn't grow much, although that could be
> >because of low volume (I've tested with ab, too, but that doesn't prove
> >much). It has gone up 2MB since yesterday, when it was steady around 50 MB.
>
> According to Julik (a textdrive sysadmin) his experience is that most rails apps take between 20-70MB -- 50MB is right in the middle of this range. Elsewhere in the posting linked below he talks about minimizing the number of fcgi listeners.
>
> http://weblog.textdrive.com/article/175/rails-optimizing-resource-usage
>
> "A Rails application usually consumes anywhere from 20 to 50-70 Mb per FastCGI dispatcher. If a Rails application is tuned properly this amount should stabilize after about 20 requests and stay the same. "
>
> --
>
> -- Stephen Bannasch, stephen at deanbrook dot org
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>


--
Nikanorov Andrey <nikanorov at gmail.com>
http://blogru.nikanorov.com
This email is: [ ] blogable [ x ] ask first [ ] private


From yemighty at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 24 13:54:33 2006
From: yemighty at hotmail.com (John Rickards)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:54:33 +0000
Subject: [typo] Using article offset to split articles between divs?
Message-ID: <BAY104-F3703DB21E009468984FCD7D5130@phx.gbl>

Hi,

I'm a hopeless Typo/Ruby newbie trying to split my displayed articles 
between column divs on the front page of my template. Is there any way of 
using offset/article limit variables to, say, show article 1 in div 1, 
article 2 in div 2 and articles 3-10 in div 3? (So, div 1 with :limit => 1, 
:offset => 0 - div 2 with :limit => 1, :offset => 1 - and div 3 with :limit 
=> 8, :offset => 2)

I've had a search of the list archives and the Typo trac, but haven't had 
much luck. I'm guessing, from what I know of other blog apps using 
PHP/MySQL, that it'd possibly involve a separate query to the database to 
get the posts for each div, but as I say, hopeless Ruby newbie here. :-)

Cheers,

John



From alimills at gmail.com  Tue Jan 24 22:18:40 2006
From: alimills at gmail.com (Ali Mills)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:18:40 -0800
Subject: [typo] head/database issues on TxD
Message-ID: <6853c3aa0601241918j7e33e107wd197acdd10272014@mail.gmail.com>

Hey there,

I successfully installed typo's stable release
(http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/wiki/DownloadStable) on my TextDrive
account, but then I realized that the stable doesn't have tags - only
the head does.  No problem I thought; I'll just re-install.  I
installed the head successfully on my local machine, exported the
database and then went on my way to install on TxD.

I went through all the standard install steps:

1. svn checkout svn://leetsoft.com/typo/trunk

2. created database.yml from database.yml.example

3. created the database based on the exported schema from my local
machine (TxD won't let users run the migrate script on the admin page
because of CPU demand)

4. added conditionals to my lighttpd.config

5. restarted ruby and lighttpd

When I checked my site at my port it was there and working the way
that typo does.  Typo was running!  So, next I created a new account
and logged in, and here's where the trouble started.  On the admin
panel I *cannot* save anything.  On admin's main "Blog Settings" page
when I click "Save my Settings" I'm greeted with "Application error
(Rails)" at the URL "/admin/general/update".  This error isn't
restricted to the "Blog Settings" page.  I also get it when trying to
add a category on the "Categories" page.  From that page I end up
seeing "Application error (Rails)" at the URL "admin/categories/new".

Since I got the head working properly on my local machine and the only
time typo errors seem to happen when writting to or deleting from
database I strongly suspect that I've encountered a database access
issue.  Having that suspicion, I've rebuilt the db several times with
no luck.  Per the Rails book, I also tried to "grant all on
my_database.* to 'myUsername'@'localhost';".  When I tried this, I
received the message, "Access denied for user 'myUsername'@'localhost'
to database 'my_database' ".  My MySQL knowldege is limited, so I
don't know if this message is a big deal or not.

Anyway, are there known issues with running the head on TextDrive?  Do
the issues that I'm encountering sound familiar to anyone?

Thanks a lot.


Ali


From justus at ryoohki.net  Wed Jan 25 01:19:31 2006
From: justus at ryoohki.net (Justus Pendleton)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 06:19:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [typo] head/database issues on TxD
References: <6853c3aa0601241918j7e33e107wd197acdd10272014@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <slrndte63j.9ge.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>

On 2006-01-25, Ali Mills <alimills at gmail.com> wrote:
[details of problem cut]

What does your log file say? That's usually a good first place to look.

Justus


From alimills at gmail.com  Wed Jan 25 03:02:28 2006
From: alimills at gmail.com (Ali Mills)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:02:28 -0800
Subject: [typo] head/database issues on TxD
In-Reply-To: <slrndte63j.9ge.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>
References: <6853c3aa0601241918j7e33e107wd197acdd10272014@mail.gmail.com>
	<slrndte63j.9ge.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>
Message-ID: <6853c3aa0601250002j3c2d6ecay44c0f5a910f6f00d@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Justus,

I kept hammering at it and fixed it already.  As it turns out, I was
having Lighttpd issues.  This really shouldn't have been suprising
since every problem that I've had with Typo over the past week has
eventually turned out to be a Lighttpd problem.

Silly server configurations...

Typo's a pretty nice piece of software.  Good work gang.


Ali


On 1/24/06, Justus Pendleton <justus at ryoohki.net> wrote:
> On 2006-01-25, Ali Mills <alimills at gmail.com> wrote:
> [details of problem cut]
>
> What does your log file say? That's usually a good first place to look.
>
> Justus
>


From cstamas at digitus.itk.ppke.hu  Thu Jan 26 10:21:57 2006
From: cstamas at digitus.itk.ppke.hu (Csillag =?iso-8859-2?Q?Tam=E1s?=)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:21:57 +0100
Subject: [typo] using typo as fcgi in url like: http://somehost/blog/...
Message-ID: <20060126152157.GK23479@digitus>

Hi

(I repost it here because no one at the lighttpd list answered my mail.
Thx.)

I am new to lighttpd. I like it because it is really 'lighter' than
apache and is easier to understand. However the documentation is not
enought (at least for me), or I am looking at the wrong place.

So here we go:
I set up typo (blog engine) as a fcgi application that everything hits
the webserver is handled with 'dispatcher.fcgi'.

I want to only redirect queries like http://myhost/blog/.* to
dispatcher.fcgi and answer the other like usual (webserver).
And dispatcher must get the SCRIPT_URL without 'blog'.

I tried several ways:
1. playing with url.rewrite
2. 'extension' in calling fcgi
But none of them works.

here is my config file:
---------------------------------------------------------------------
server.port                 = 443
server.bind                 = "rivendell.itk.ppke.hu"
server.event-handler        = "linux-sysepoll"

server.modules              = ( "mod_rewrite", "mod_fastcgi", "mod_rewrite", "mod_redirect" )
server.document-root        = "/var/www/webroot"
$HTTP["url"] =~ "^/blog" {
    #url.rewrite-once            = ( "^/blog/(.*)" => "/$1" )
    #^^^ tried but does not work
    server.indexfiles           = ( "dispatch.fcgi" )
    server.document-root        = "/var/www/public/typo/public/"
    server.error-handler-404    = "/dispatch.fcgi"
}
server.errorlog             = "/var/www/public/typo/log/error.log"
server.username             = "www-data"

ssl.engine = "enable"
ssl.pemfile = "...somewhere/server.pem"

url.rewrite = ( "^$" => "index.html", "^([^.]+)$" => "$1.html" )

#### fastcgi module
fastcgi.server =  (
   ".fcgi" => (
     "/" => (
       "min-procs" => 2,
       "max-procs" => 2,
       "socket" => "/tmp/typo1.socket",
       "bin-path" => "/var/www/public/typo/public/dispatch.fcgi",
       "bin-environment" => ( "RAILS_ENV" => "production" ),
       "idle-timeout" => 120
     )
   )
)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
mimetypes omitted.

Some snipplets from my typo log file.
Processing RedirectController#redirect (for 81.182.59.186 at 2006-01-25 16:10:07) [GET]
  Parameters: {"from"=>["blog", "admin"], "action"=>"redirect", "controller"=>"redirect"}
Completed in 0.00701 (142 reqs/sec) | Rendering: 0.00010 (1%) | DB: 0.00162 (23%) | 404 [https://rivendell.itk.ppke.hu/blog/admin]

TIA.

-- 
Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives.

CSILLAG Tamas (cstamas) - http://digitus.itk.ppke.hu/~cstamas

From ernieoporto at gmail.com  Thu Jan 26 21:15:04 2006
From: ernieoporto at gmail.com (Ernie Oporto)
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:15:04 -0500
Subject: [typo] Heavy RAM usage? Instability?
In-Reply-To: <43D5AFA8.6020406@gmail.com>
References: <43D1E5B1.8040404@dangerousideas.com>
	<slrndt4kur.11p.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>
	<43D28076.8030604@dangerousideas.com>
	<5C68843E-FA7F-47E3-8466-60A715B58A66@sigkill.org>
	<43D3D28F.5070604@dangerousideas.com>
	<p06230912bffac85de497@192.168.1.103> <43D5AFA8.6020406@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f91ac86d0601261815j74317ed1le280f562cd474d63@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure what I'm doing right, but mine seems to be running pretty slim?

#ps -auwwx
USER       PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
[...]
nobody     803  0.0  2.5 31064 26660 ?       S    Jan25   0:09 ruby
/proj/path/blog/public/dispatch.fcgi
nobody     827  0.0  2.2 31064 23004 ?       S    Jan25   0:11 ruby
/proj/path/blog/public/dispatch.fcgi



On 1/23/06, edavis10 at gmail.com <edavis10 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Stephen Bannasch wrote:
>
> > According to Julik (a textdrive sysadmin) his experience is that most
> rails apps take between 20-70MB -- 50MB is right in the middle of this
> range. Elsewhere in the posting linked below he talks about minimizing
> the number of fcgi listeners.
> >
> > http://weblog.textdrive.com/article/175/rails-optimizing-resource-usage
> >
> > "A Rails application usually consumes anywhere from 20 to 50-70 Mb per
> FastCGI dispatcher. If a Rails application is tuned properly this amount
> should stabilize after about 20 requests and stay the same. "
> >
>
>
> Mine is around 45MB for each FCGI I have.  Site does not take a lot of
> hits but has been up for a while now.
>
> 30807   www-data        45640 kB        ruby
> /home/websites/theadmin/web/public/dispatch.fcgi
>
> 30808   www-data        45108 kB        ruby
> /home/websites/theadmin/web/public/dispatch.fcgi
>
> I have another that gets 0 hits and it is at about 36MB per FCGI.
>
> (All of this is moot when I noticed mysqld is taking over 121MB and only
> powers my Typo installs)
>
> Eric Davis
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
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From george.nica at gmail.com  Fri Jan 27 08:22:39 2006
From: george.nica at gmail.com (George Razvan NICA)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:22:39 +0200
Subject: [typo] Different feeds in the same blog.
Message-ID: <c1290bf90601270522l5e1b0e46ve8faf6f7cfd539ba@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, everyone!

Is it possible to have multiple feeds on my Typo blog, on different
subjects? What I'm aiming for is, for example, to have an RSS feed for
business-related-posts, one for sysadmin-related-posts and one for all
posts.

Oh, and if there isn't, maybe you could point out where I should look
in the source, what to read and maybe get some plugin going or
something. I'm willing to do some work on this, under some guidance.
Yes, I'm familiar with Ruby & Rails but I think I would still require
some "parental" guidance.

Thank you for your answer.

--
GRN
http://nano.cube.ro


From victor-typo at carotena.net  Fri Jan 27 08:36:49 2006
From: victor-typo at carotena.net (Victor Jalencas)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:36:49 +0100
Subject: [typo] Different feeds in the same blog.
In-Reply-To: <c1290bf90601270522l5e1b0e46ve8faf6f7cfd539ba@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c1290bf90601270522l5e1b0e46ve8faf6f7cfd539ba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43DA21F1.2050609@carotena.net>


Hi George

  Actually, it is. Or rather, will be. Trunk typo already has category 
and tag filtered posts. You only need to correctly categorize and/or tag 
your posts (which I guess you'll already be doing)

  Cheers
  Victor


George Razvan NICA wrote:
> Hi, everyone!
> 
> Is it possible to have multiple feeds on my Typo blog, on different
> subjects? What I'm aiming for is, for example, to have an RSS feed for
> business-related-posts, one for sysadmin-related-posts and one for all
> posts.
> 
> Oh, and if there isn't, maybe you could point out where I should look
> in the source, what to read and maybe get some plugin going or
> something. I'm willing to do some work on this, under some guidance.
> Yes, I'm familiar with Ruby & Rails but I think I would still require
> some "parental" guidance.
> 
> Thank you for your answer.
> 
> --
> GRN
> http://nano.cube.ro
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From seanhussey at gmail.com  Fri Jan 27 12:41:17 2006
From: seanhussey at gmail.com (Sean Hussey)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:41:17 -0500
Subject: [typo] Different feeds in the same blog.
In-Reply-To: <43DA21F1.2050609@carotena.net>
References: <c1290bf90601270522l5e1b0e46ve8faf6f7cfd539ba@mail.gmail.com>
	<43DA21F1.2050609@carotena.net>
Message-ID: <c89c8a510601270941jafeb66chb71136c762a6a5e4@mail.gmail.com>

How safe is trunk these days?  I had the exact same question as George.

In fact, I wanted to take it one step further and have hostname-based
filtering.  So "dev.myblog.com" would show the blog, but only with the
"dev" posts.  Might I be able to work towards this with the same trunk
changes?

Sean

On 1/27/06, Victor Jalencas <victor-typo at carotena.net> wrote:
>
> Hi George
>
>   Actually, it is. Or rather, will be. Trunk typo already has category
> and tag filtered posts. You only need to correctly categorize and/or tag
> your posts (which I guess you'll already be doing)
>
>   Cheers
>   Victor
>
>
> George Razvan NICA wrote:
> > Hi, everyone!
> >
> > Is it possible to have multiple feeds on my Typo blog, on different
> > subjects? What I'm aiming for is, for example, to have an RSS feed for
> > business-related-posts, one for sysadmin-related-posts and one for all
> > posts.
> >
> > Oh, and if there isn't, maybe you could point out where I should look
> > in the source, what to read and maybe get some plugin going or
> > something. I'm willing to do some work on this, under some guidance.
> > Yes, I'm familiar with Ruby & Rails but I think I would still require
> > some "parental" guidance.
> >
> > Thank you for your answer.
> >
> > --
> > GRN
> > http://nano.cube.ro
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Typo-list mailing list
> > Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>


From typo-list at jasonbainbridge.com  Fri Jan 27 12:44:01 2006
From: typo-list at jasonbainbridge.com (Jason Bainbridge)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:44:01 -0600
Subject: [typo] Heavy RAM usage? Instability?
In-Reply-To: <f91ac86d0601261815j74317ed1le280f562cd474d63@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43D1E5B1.8040404@dangerousideas.com>	<slrndt4kur.11p.justus@kiyone.ryoohki.net>	<43D28076.8030604@dangerousideas.com>	<5C68843E-FA7F-47E3-8466-60A715B58A66@sigkill.org>	<43D3D28F.5070604@dangerousideas.com>	<p06230912bffac85de497@192.168.1.103>
	<43D5AFA8.6020406@gmail.com>
	<f91ac86d0601261815j74317ed1le280f562cd474d63@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43DA5BE1.1080407@jasonbainbridge.com>

Mine is even slimmer than that when using SCGI so I wonder why others 
are having so many problems?

Maybe if those experiencing problems could post details of their setup like:

- Version or revision of Typo bering used
- the results of script/about to see the versions of Rails and it's 
requirements

Are they sure they are running in Production mode and aren't using 
Development by mistake? It is just unusual that some are having problems 
where others are having no problems at all.

My own setup is:


- Whatever the latest revision of SVN is
About your application's environment
Ruby version                 1.8.2 (i686-linux)
RubyGems version             0.8.10
Rails version                1.0.0
Active Record version        1.13.2
Action Pack version          1.11.2
Action Web Service version   1.0.0
Action Mailer version        1.1.5
Active Support version       1.2.5
Application root             /home/jaseone/typo
Environment                  development
Database adapter             mysql

(it says development but it really isn't, I believe it is a bug in the 
script/about)

Regards,
Jason


Ernie Oporto wrote:

> Not sure what I'm doing right, but mine seems to be running pretty slim?
>
> #ps -auwwx
> USER       PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
> [...]
> nobody     803  0.0  2.5 31064 26660 ?       S    Jan25   0:09 ruby 
> /proj/path/blog/public/dispatch.fcgi
> nobody     827  0.0  2.2 31064 23004 ?       S    Jan25   0:11 ruby 
> /proj/path/blog/public/dispatch.fcgi
>
>
>
> On 1/23/06, * edavis10 at gmail.com <mailto:edavis10 at gmail.com>* 
> <edavis10 at gmail.com <mailto:edavis10 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Stephen Bannasch wrote:
>
>     > According to Julik (a textdrive sysadmin) his experience is that
>     most
>     rails apps take between 20-70MB -- 50MB is right in the middle of this
>     range. Elsewhere in the posting linked below he talks about
>     minimizing
>     the number of fcgi listeners.
>     >
>     >
>     http://weblog.textdrive.com/article/175/rails-optimizing-resource-usage
>     >
>     > "A Rails application usually consumes anywhere from 20 to 50-70
>     Mb per
>     FastCGI dispatcher. If a Rails application is tuned properly this
>     amount
>     should stabilize after about 20 requests and stay the same. "
>     >
>
>
>     Mine is around 45MB for each FCGI I have.  Site does not take a
>     lot of
>     hits but has been up for a while now.
>
>     30807   www-data        45640 kB        ruby
>     /home/websites/theadmin/web/public/dispatch.fcgi
>
>     30808   www-data        45108 kB        ruby
>     /home/websites/theadmin/web/public/dispatch.fcgi
>
>     I have another that gets 0 hits and it is at about 36MB per FCGI.
>
>     (All of this is moot when I noticed mysqld is taking over 121MB
>     and only
>     powers my Typo installs)
>
>     Eric Davis
>     _______________________________________________
>     Typo-list mailing list
>     Typo-list at rubyforge.org <mailto:Typo-list at rubyforge.org>
>     http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>Typo-list mailing list
>Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>

From typo-list at jasonbainbridge.com  Fri Jan 27 13:16:42 2006
From: typo-list at jasonbainbridge.com (Jason Bainbridge)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:16:42 -0600
Subject: [typo] Different feeds in the same blog.
In-Reply-To: <c89c8a510601270941jafeb66chb71136c762a6a5e4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c1290bf90601270522l5e1b0e46ve8faf6f7cfd539ba@mail.gmail.com>	<43DA21F1.2050609@carotena.net>
	<c89c8a510601270941jafeb66chb71136c762a6a5e4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43DA638A.6070703@jasonbainbridge.com>

Sean Hussey wrote:

>How safe is trunk these days?  I had the exact same question as George.
>  
>

Well I've been playing with it on a test site for quite some time and 
even though I don't use it for my Production blog I haven't experienced 
any real problems, although I have heard of issues migrating to it from 
2.6.0.

>In fact, I wanted to take it one step further and have hostname-based
>filtering.  So "dev.myblog.com" would show the blog, but only with the
>"dev" posts.  Might I be able to work towards this with the same trunk
>changes?
>
I have another email in moderation asking about this (forgot to change 
the from in my email) but just found the answer myself, you can have per 
category and per tag feeds like:

http://typo.jasonbainbridge.com/xml/rss20/category/blog/feed.xml

Where in the above example the category is simply "blog" and to display 
the site filtered for just the blog category it is:

http://typo.jasonbainbridge.com/articles/category/blog

So it would be easy enough with some DNS A records or a DNS Wildcard 
plus ServerAlias's to send specific or all subdomains to the one Typo 
instance and then use rewrite rules so Typo can understand such 
requests, example:

http://dev.yourdomain.com

would need to point to your Typo install through DNS and a ServerAlias, 
then you would need a rewrite rule to change that to

http://yourdomain.com/articles/category/dev

(I'm too lazy to write that myself right now but it should be easy enough).

Regards,
Jason

From bronson at rinspin.com  Fri Jan 27 18:29:33 2006
From: bronson at rinspin.com (Scott Bronson)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 18:29:33 -0500
Subject: [typo] New migration scripts
Message-ID: <1138404574.26853.156.camel@localhost>

Typo is pretty notorious for having rough migrations.  This is because
it uses its models to migrate data, even when the schema you're
migrating from is very old.  Current models operating on an ancient
schema?  Madness.

I think I've fixed this by removing all usage of Typo's models from the
migration scripts.  Instead, each script uses its own bare models.
Therefore, the scripts will now work exactly the same way no matter what
version of Typo you have installed.

    http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/680

I've attached a patch this ticket.  The patch is huge (60K), but that's
just because there are a huge number migrate scripts.  Most of the
changes are straightforward.

Any chance of getting it committed?


On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 12:16 -0600, Jason Bainbridge wrote: 
> Sean Hussey wrote:
> >How safe is trunk these days?  I had the exact same question as George.
> Well I've been playing with it on a test site for quite some time and 
> even though I don't use it for my Production blog I haven't experienced 
> any real problems, although I have heard of issues migrating to it from 
> 2.6.0.

If anyone has a database that fails to migrate with these new scripts, please
send me a dump?  I'll bet it will be an easy problem to fix.  :)

    - Scott



From scott at sigkill.org  Fri Jan 27 18:35:47 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:35:47 -0800
Subject: [typo] New migration scripts
In-Reply-To: <1138404574.26853.156.camel@localhost>
References: <1138404574.26853.156.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <2D43E4AA-7ADD-4DE1-B67C-E81BC3ADD9E8@sigkill.org>

I'll look at it in the morning and give it a shot with a couple old  
DBs that I keep around.  The idea is good; hopefully it'll work well  
enough in practice :-).


Scott

On Jan 27, 2006, at 3:29 PM, Scott Bronson wrote:

> Typo is pretty notorious for having rough migrations.  This is because
> it uses its models to migrate data, even when the schema you're
> migrating from is very old.  Current models operating on an ancient
> schema?  Madness.
>
> I think I've fixed this by removing all usage of Typo's models from  
> the
> migration scripts.  Instead, each script uses its own bare models.
> Therefore, the scripts will now work exactly the same way no matter  
> what
> version of Typo you have installed.
>
>     http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/680
>
> I've attached a patch this ticket.  The patch is huge (60K), but  
> that's
> just because there are a huge number migrate scripts.  Most of the
> changes are straightforward.
>
> Any chance of getting it committed?
>
>
> On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 12:16 -0600, Jason Bainbridge wrote:
>> Sean Hussey wrote:
>>> How safe is trunk these days?  I had the exact same question as  
>>> George.
>> Well I've been playing with it on a test site for quite some time and
>> even though I don't use it for my Production blog I haven't  
>> experienced
>> any real problems, although I have heard of issues migrating to it  
>> from
>> 2.6.0.
>
> If anyone has a database that fails to migrate with these new  
> scripts, please
> send me a dump?  I'll bet it will be an easy problem to fix.  :)
>
>     - Scott
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From jroncero at us.es  Mon Jan 30 10:01:02 2006
From: jroncero at us.es (Jesus Roncero)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:01:02 +0000
Subject: [typo] Problem claming typo blog from technorati
Message-ID: <43DE2A2E.2050703@us.es>

Hi there,
I've been playing for some time now with a typo blog and right now I am 
trying to keep it updated regulary.
The thing is that I am trying to claim it from Technorai, following the 
specified procedure but it fails. I just entered the blog URL (by the 
way is http://blog.notreally.org) in the corresponding input box. Then, 
all I get is a "In progress. Complete Claim now" link, which leads me to 
a page that suggests me to finish the claim process by following the 
instructions, but I get a blank page anyway. I saved a screenshot here: 
http://static.flickr.com/14/93110862_378f477472_o.png

Any ideas about what I could be doing wrong? or does anyone else 
experienced this?
BTW, I am running typo version 2.6.0 under apache 2.0 as a default 
instalation.

Thanks!

-- 
Jesus Roncero
Cheers from England


From bitdepth at gmail.com  Mon Jan 30 10:11:10 2006
From: bitdepth at gmail.com (Chris Campbell)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:11:10 -0400
Subject: [typo] Problem claming typo blog from technorati
In-Reply-To: <43DE2A2E.2050703@us.es>
References: <43DE2A2E.2050703@us.es>
Message-ID: <cdc448470601300711j6e22db6em999d8bd7fc54ac97@mail.gmail.com>

To claim your blog you need to embed a bit of code for Technorati. I had the
same problem with my Typo blog and I'm not sure why it happened. I was able
to get the snippet of code to embed before the blank page showed up.

I emailed Technorati support and after a few days I got a reply, but by then
the embedded code was recognized.

But you haven't got the code to embed to complete the claim, so I think that
it's more of a Technorati problem than a Typo problem.

Chris

On 1/30/06, Jesus Roncero <jroncero at us.es> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
> I've been playing for some time now with a typo blog and right now I am
> trying to keep it updated regulary.
> The thing is that I am trying to claim it from Technorai, following the
> specified procedure but it fails. I just entered the blog URL (by the
> way is http://blog.notreally.org) in the corresponding input box. Then,
> all I get is a "In progress. Complete Claim now" link, which leads me to
> a page that suggests me to finish the claim process by following the
> instructions, but I get a blank page anyway. I saved a screenshot here:
> http://static.flickr.com/14/93110862_378f477472_o.png
>
> Any ideas about what I could be doing wrong? or does anyone else
> experienced this?
> BTW, I am running typo version 2.6.0 under apache 2.0 as a default
> instalation.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Jesus Roncero
> Cheers from England
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
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From dstrelau at gmail.com  Mon Jan 30 10:18:17 2006
From: dstrelau at gmail.com (Dean Strelau)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 10:18:17 -0500
Subject: [typo] Problem claming typo blog from technorati
In-Reply-To: <43DE2A2E.2050703@us.es>
References: <43DE2A2E.2050703@us.es>
Message-ID: <aaec3bd90601300718i75cb1877t7e2900429c99635e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I've had the same problem for a while now. I contacted Technorati
support but have had no response. I didn't really think this was a
Typo problem, attributing it to something going wrong on the
Technorati end, but now I'm not so sure! I'm running SVN with apache
on DH. Also, I've tried in various different OS X browsers; it doesn't
seem to make a difference.

|| Dean Strelau
www.zenchic.net

On 1/30/06, Jesus Roncero <jroncero at us.es> wrote:
> Hi there,
> I've been playing for some time now with a typo blog and right now I am
> trying to keep it updated regulary.
> The thing is that I am trying to claim it from Technorai, following the
> specified procedure but it fails. I just entered the blog URL (by the
> way is http://blog.notreally.org) in the corresponding input box. Then,
> all I get is a "In progress. Complete Claim now" link, which leads me to
> a page that suggests me to finish the claim process by following the
> instructions, but I get a blank page anyway. I saved a screenshot here:
> http://static.flickr.com/14/93110862_378f477472_o.png
>
> Any ideas about what I could be doing wrong? or does anyone else
> experienced this?
> BTW, I am running typo version 2.6.0 under apache 2.0 as a default
> instalation.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Jesus Roncero
> Cheers from England
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>


From typo-list at jasonbainbridge.com  Mon Jan 30 10:18:38 2006
From: typo-list at jasonbainbridge.com (Jason Bainbridge)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:18:38 -0600
Subject: [typo] Problem claming typo blog from technorati
In-Reply-To: <cdc448470601300711j6e22db6em999d8bd7fc54ac97@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43DE2A2E.2050703@us.es>
	<cdc448470601300711j6e22db6em999d8bd7fc54ac97@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43DE2E4E.5010700@jasonbainbridge.com>



Chris Campbell wrote:

> To claim your blog you need to embed a bit of code for Technorati. I 
> had the same problem with my Typo blog and I'm not sure why it 
> happened. I was able to get the snippet of code to embed before the 
> blank page showed up.
>
> I emailed Technorati support and after a few days I got a reply, but 
> by then the embedded code was recognized.
>
> But you haven't got the code to embed to complete the claim, so I 
> think that it's more of a Technorati problem than a Typo problem.


The problem is with Typo's XMLRPC implementation as that is the way 
Technorati tries to perform the claim by default, the backup method is 
to embed the Javascript. I think the XMLRPC stuff still needs some 
attention in the trunk although I haven't tried it in a while so maybe 
some of those patches have been implemented already.

Regards,
Jason

From jroncero at us.es  Mon Jan 30 11:19:30 2006
From: jroncero at us.es (Jesus Roncero)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:19:30 +0000
Subject: [typo] Problem claming typo blog from technorati
In-Reply-To: <cdc448470601300711j6e22db6em999d8bd7fc54ac97@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43DE2A2E.2050703@us.es>
	<cdc448470601300711j6e22db6em999d8bd7fc54ac97@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43DE3C92.9040507@us.es>

Chris Campbell wrote:

> To claim your blog you need to embed a bit of code for Technorati. I 
> had the same problem with my Typo blog and I'm not sure why it 
> happened. I was able to get the snippet of code to embed before the 
> blank page showed up.
>
> I emailed Technorati support and after a few days I got a reply, but 
> by then the embedded code was recognized.
>
> But you haven't got the code to embed to complete the claim, so I 
> think that it's more of a Technorati problem than a Typo problem.
>
Oh, thanks for the replies. I've just sent them an email about this issue.


-- 
Jesus Roncero
Cheers from England


From ernieoporto at gmail.com  Mon Jan 30 12:51:27 2006
From: ernieoporto at gmail.com (Ernie Oporto)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 12:51:27 -0500
Subject: [typo] Upgrade to 855 - no migration
Message-ID: <f91ac86d0601300951n778b5a58u3090ac23346dc08f@mail.gmail.com>

My blog still shows as r762 in the admin pages and there was no migration of
the database when I upgraded.
On the positive side, everything seems to be working as it should, but I
wonder if something is waiting to break or get corrupted.
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From jpinnix.alt at gmail.com  Mon Jan 30 12:53:29 2006
From: jpinnix.alt at gmail.com (jeremy*pinnix)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:53:29 -0600
Subject: [typo] category name
Message-ID: <11a908be0601300953k4c854527j13bc35dc158d3419@mail.gmail.com>

How can I display the name of the category when on a category page?


From ernieoporto at gmail.com  Mon Jan 30 12:55:24 2006
From: ernieoporto at gmail.com (Ernie Oporto)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 12:55:24 -0500
Subject: [typo] blogger style web UI from link?
Message-ID: <f91ac86d0601300955m453e70c6s1421e3d1785404d0@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.blogger.com/blog_this.pyra?&u=article_url&n=article_title

Is there a web UI to article posting that can be called from a single URL as
one can with the above Blogger link? Would be very useful for insertion into
other web based RSS aggregators or even for launching from apps that don't
speak any of the blog posting APIs.
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From phil at cryer.us  Mon Jan 30 13:21:21 2006
From: phil at cryer.us (phil)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 12:21:21 -0600
Subject: [typo] 855 - can't run with fastcgi
In-Reply-To: f91ac86d0601300955m453e70c6s1421e3d1785404d0@mail.gmail.com
Message-ID: <500ae187053dd3f58c25fc64637dc346@pepe.cryer.us>

I had problems last week after I upgraded some of the ruby* ports on FreeBSD, but I fixed it by (I thought) reinstalling rubygem-actionpack, but alast today I updated some more ruby stuff, and now lighttpd won't start with fastcgi (I'm now running on WEBrick again, so that's a nice backup to have).  I'm concerned that in the error it says "No such file or directory", but I can't find what that's referering to.  I'm sorry if this is outside of the Typo realm, but it's only with Typo that I am working on this stuff.

After the problems I tried reinstalling these ports:

rubygem-actionmailer-1.1.5
rubygem-actionwebservice-1.0.0_1
rubygem-rails-1.0.0
rubygem-activesupport-1.2.5
ruby18-gems-0.8.11
ruby-1.8.4_4,1
rubygem-actionpack-1.11.2_1

Here is the output, not the svn version I'm running and the php -v output showing cgi-fcgi:

[phil at pepe:~/websites/fak3r/typo]$ svn up
At revision 855.

[phil at pepe:~/websites/fak3r/typo]$ ./script/server -e production
=> Booting lighttpd (use 'script/server webrick' to force WEBrick)
=> Rails application started on http://127.0.0.1:3000
=> Call with -d to detach (requires absolute paths in config/lighttpd.conf)
=> Ctrl-C to shutdown server (see config/lighttpd.conf for options)
2006-01-30 11:34:39: (mod_fastcgi.c.989) execve failed for: public/dispatch.fcgi No such file or directory
2006-01-30 11:34:39: (mod_fastcgi.c.1015) the fastcgi-backend public/dispatch.fcgi failed to start:
2006-01-30 11:34:39: (mod_fastcgi.c.1019) child exited with status 2 public/dispatch.fcgi
2006-01-30 11:34:39: (mod_fastcgi.c.1022) if you try do run PHP as FastCGI backend make sure you use the FastCGI enabled version.
You can find out if it is the right one by executing 'php -v' and it should display '(cgi-fcgi)' in the output, NOT (cgi) NOR (cli)
For more information check http://www.lighttpd.net/documentation/fastcgi.html#preparing-php-as-a-fastcgi-program
2006-01-30 11:34:39: (mod_fastcgi.c.1027) If this is PHP on Gentoo add fastcgi to the USE flags
2006-01-30 11:34:39: (mod_fastcgi.c.1314) [ERROR]: spawning fcgi failed.
2006-01-30 11:34:39: (server.c.702) Configuration of plugins failed. Going down.'

[phil at pepe:~/websites/fak3r/typo]$ php -v
PHP 4.4.2 (cgi-fcgi) (built: Jan 26 2006 21:44:10)
Copyright (c) 1997-2006 The PHP Group
Zend Engine v1.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2004 Zend Technologies
    with eAccelerator v0.9.4-cvs200601121552-rc1, Copyright (c) 2004-2005 eAccelerator, by eAccelerator
[17709] EACCELERATOR: PHP unclean shutdown
[phil at pepe:~/websites/fak3r/typo]$

Thanks

P
-- 
http://fak3r.com - you don't have to kick it


From ziplux at comcast.net  Mon Jan 30 16:15:46 2006
From: ziplux at comcast.net (Jared Luxenberg)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:15:46 -0500
Subject: [typo] Bugs to work on
In-Reply-To: <377705AC-5BD0-4D19-995C-BE6FAA8D9873@sigkill.org>
References: <377705AC-5BD0-4D19-995C-BE6FAA8D9873@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <43DE8202.8030303@comcast.net>

I submitted a patch to allow tags with spaces in them here:
http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/674

Is it possible that it will be merged into the trunk sometime?

- Jared

Scott Laird wrote:
> I've obviously been a bit out of touch lately, but I think I can  
> finally get back to Typo hacking.  At the moment, we have 133 open  
> tickets, which is a bit more then I really feel like tackling at the  
> moment.  Is there any sort of consensus on which bugs are the more  
> irritating, an/or which patches are most in need of being applied?
>
>
> Scott
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
>   




From trejkaz at trypticon.org  Mon Jan 30 20:42:50 2006
From: trejkaz at trypticon.org (Trejkaz)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:42:50 +1100
Subject: [typo] Problem claming typo blog from technorati
In-Reply-To: <cdc448470601300711j6e22db6em999d8bd7fc54ac97@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43DE2A2E.2050703@us.es>
	<cdc448470601300711j6e22db6em999d8bd7fc54ac97@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43DEC09A.50203@trypticon.org>

Chris Campbell wrote:
> To claim your blog you need to embed a bit of code for Technorati. I had 
> the same problem with my Typo blog and I'm not sure why it happened. I 
> was able to get the snippet of code to embed before the blank page 
> showed up.
> 
> I emailed Technorati support and after a few days I got a reply, but by 
> then the embedded code was recognized.
> 
> But you haven't got the code to embed to complete the claim, so I think 
> that it's more of a Technorati problem than a Typo problem.

Actually on the topic of Technorati, back when I first "claimed" my blog 
it worked okay after I dumped their crud into an inconspicuous place on 
my layout.

My problem was that the pings didn't always reach Technorati, or they 
reached Technorati and they would ignore them (even manual pings through 
their form on the site itself would fail to work.)

The other Technorati issue I find is that they date posts based on when 
they noticed the update, not when the actual post was dated.  The net 
result is that the one time in a million when the ping does work, a 
flood of a few dozen posts appear on Technorati at the same time.  So I 
have some pretty nasty examples for my own site, where a post is dated 
in the past few months, but the actual real post was back in 2003 or 
2004. :-)

I'm sure these are all Technorati's problems though, and not Typo's.

TX


From kevin at sb.org  Tue Jan 31 02:09:42 2006
From: kevin at sb.org (Kevin Ballard)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:09:42 -0800
Subject: [typo] Bugs to work on
In-Reply-To: <43DE8202.8030303@comcast.net>
References: <377705AC-5BD0-4D19-995C-BE6FAA8D9873@sigkill.org>
	<43DE8202.8030303@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <DFCC56CF-CAF3-427E-A228-34D716D0F235@sb.org>

I'm doing it now.

However, I'm sorry to say that I basically re-wrote it. Your patch  
provided inspiration, and functional test, but the actual article  
code itself I'm redoing. Why? Because I can compress that entire  
block you have into a single line.

Assuming there's no errors, I'll commit in a minute.

On Jan 30, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Jared Luxenberg wrote:

> I submitted a patch to allow tags with spaces in them here:
> http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/674
>
> Is it possible that it will be merged into the trunk sometime?

-- 
Kevin Ballard
kevin at sb.org
http://kevin.sb.org
http://www.tildesoft.com


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From pauli at perfectinfo.com  Tue Jan 31 04:44:58 2006
From: pauli at perfectinfo.com (Paul Ingles)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 09:44:58 -0000
Subject: [typo] Upgrade to 855 - no migration
Message-ID: <23E272490297FB4E9DFC1666932B077A0198B572@pi-mail.perfectinfo.com>

Ernie,

 

When I pulled down 855 and migrated from the 2.6.0 release it did
perform some migrations, but, the number in the admin pages on my system
still show r762.

 

Regards,

Paul

www.oobaloo.co.uk <http://www.oobaloo.co.uk/> 

 

________________________________

From: typo-list-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:typo-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Ernie Oporto
Sent: 30 January 2006 17:51
To: typo-list at rubyforge.org
Subject: [typo] Upgrade to 855 - no migration

 


My blog still shows as r762 in the admin pages and there was no
migration of the database when I upgraded.
On the positive side, everything seems to be working as it should, but I
wonder if something is waiting to break or get corrupted. 



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From kevin at sb.org  Tue Jan 31 04:59:49 2006
From: kevin at sb.org (Kevin Ballard)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:59:49 -0800
Subject: [typo] Upgrade to 855 - no migration
In-Reply-To: <23E272490297FB4E9DFC1666932B077A0198B572@pi-mail.perfectinfo.com>
References: <23E272490297FB4E9DFC1666932B077A0198B572@pi-mail.perfectinfo.com>
Message-ID: <73DBB686-4F14-4D61-A577-04207E01C787@sb.org>

Yeah, that number is flawed. It only updates when the file it's  
actually stored in is modified, which is never since the file only  
exists to contain that number.

If we're going to have this feature we really need to figure out some  
way to keep it updated.

On Jan 31, 2006, at 1:44 AM, Paul Ingles wrote:

> When I pulled down 855 and migrated from the 2.6.0 release it did  
> perform some migrations, but, the number in the admin pages on my  
> system still show r762.

-- 
Kevin Ballard
kevin at sb.org
http://kevin.sb.org
http://www.tildesoft.com


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From kevin at sb.org  Tue Jan 31 05:04:21 2006
From: kevin at sb.org (Kevin Ballard)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 02:04:21 -0800
Subject: [typo] Rename-able tags
Message-ID: <83FE829E-AD60-4E48-8D55-D2F77D9A26E7@sb.org>

I just committed changeset [858] which allows you to rename tags.  
There is no UI for this yet (though I am working on one), but you can  
do it in the database by modifying the new display_name field. Please  
read the changelog for [858] if this is something you're going to be  
looking at, or if you're a theme writer (if you've overridden display  
of tags anywhere in your theme you need to update it). This does  
include a new migration, and `rake schemas` has been run (which added  
a new db/schema.sqlserver.sql file).

On the note of `rake schemas`, here's 2 important things to remember:
  1.  Please make sure you're using the latest version of  
schema_generator.
  2.  `rake schemas` seems to be creating a db/schema.rb file. I  
don't understand why, since `rake db_schema_dump` is supposed to do  
that, but that's what it's doing. I removed that file from version  
control - please do not re-add it. It does not contain the initial  
textfilter rows that the schema.*.sql files do, which means anybody  
that loads from the schema.rb file will have errors when trying to  
run Typo. So remember to delete db/schemas.rb after running `rake  
schemas`. And Scott Laird, if you're listening, I'd like to know why  
schema_generator seems to be creating the db/schema.rb file as well,  
and if you could disable that functionality since that's the province  
of `rake db_schema_dump`.

Oh, and if you rename tags and you don't see it updating in the  
sidebar, remember to flush your cache. Fragment caching can prevent  
that from updating properly.

-- 
Kevin Ballard
kevin at sb.org
http://kevin.sb.org
http://www.tildesoft.com


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From ernieoporto at gmail.com  Tue Jan 31 11:19:41 2006
From: ernieoporto at gmail.com (Ernie Oporto)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:19:41 -0500
Subject: [typo] Upgrade to 855 - no migration
In-Reply-To: <23E272490297FB4E9DFC1666932B077A0198B572@pi-mail.perfectinfo.com>
References: <23E272490297FB4E9DFC1666932B077A0198B572@pi-mail.perfectinfo.com>
Message-ID: <f91ac86d0601310819n1b7c91f5vb5fdffdbac133616@mail.gmail.com>

>From 2.6.0 to the various trunk versions I've done, I've seen migrations
happen.  Just nothing from 762 to 855.  Does anyone know if there was
supposed to be a migration?  Do I just change the number in the file to make
it happen?


On 1/31/06, Paul Ingles <pauli at perfectinfo.com> wrote:
>
>  Ernie,
>
>
>
> When I pulled down 855 and migrated from the 2.6.0 release it did perform
> some migrations, but, the number in the admin pages on my system still show
> r762.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
> www.oobaloo.co.uk
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* typo-list-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:
> typo-list-bounces at rubyforge.org] *On Behalf Of *Ernie Oporto
> *Sent:* 30 January 2006 17:51
> *To:* typo-list at rubyforge.org
> *Subject:* [typo] Upgrade to 855 - no migration
>
>
>
>
> My blog still shows as r762 in the admin pages and there was no migration
> of the database when I upgraded.
> On the positive side, everything seems to be working as it should, but I
> wonder if something is waiting to break or get corrupted.
>
>
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From ziplux at comcast.net  Tue Jan 31 12:12:37 2006
From: ziplux at comcast.net (Jared Luxenberg)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:12:37 -0500
Subject: [typo] Bugs to work on
In-Reply-To: <DFCC56CF-CAF3-427E-A228-34D716D0F235@sb.org>
References: <377705AC-5BD0-4D19-995C-BE6FAA8D9873@sigkill.org>	<43DE8202.8030303@comcast.net>
	<DFCC56CF-CAF3-427E-A228-34D716D0F235@sb.org>
Message-ID: <43DF9A85.7060101@comcast.net>

Ah, no worries.  I'm interested to see how you refactored it   : )

 - Jared

Kevin Ballard wrote:
> I'm doing it now.
>
> However, I'm sorry to say that I basically re-wrote it. Your patch
> provided inspiration, and functional test, but the actual article code
> itself I'm redoing. Why? Because I can compress that entire block you
> have into a single line.
>
> Assuming there's no errors, I'll commit in a minute.
>
> On Jan 30, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Jared Luxenberg wrote:
>
>> I submitted a patch to allow tags with spaces in them here:
>> http://typo.leetsoft.com/trac/ticket/674
>>
>> Is it possible that it will be merged into the trunk sometime?
>
> --Kevin Ballard
> kevin at sb.org
> http://kevin.sb.org
> http://www.tildesoft.com
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list



From steve.longdo at gmail.com  Tue Jan 31 13:31:02 2006
From: steve.longdo at gmail.com (Steve Longdo)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:31:02 -0600
Subject: [typo] Bugs to work on
In-Reply-To: <377705AC-5BD0-4D19-995C-BE6FAA8D9873@sigkill.org>
References: <377705AC-5BD0-4D19-995C-BE6FAA8D9873@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <cc4e85f30601311031h69abfcaer7ade555bd10f2d09@mail.gmail.com>

I see references to Typo 4.0 on trac, is this code avilable somewhere in
SVN?

On 1/23/06, Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org> wrote:
>
> I've obviously been a bit out of touch lately, but I think I can
> finally get back to Typo hacking.  At the moment, we have 133 open
> tickets, which is a bit more then I really feel like tackling at the
> moment.  Is there any sort of consensus on which bugs are the more
> irritating, an/or which patches are most in need of being applied?
>
>
> Scott
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
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From phil at cryer.us  Tue Jan 31 13:44:45 2006
From: phil at cryer.us (phil)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:44:45 -0600
Subject: [typo] Upgrade to 855 - no migration
In-Reply-To: 73DBB686-4F14-4D61-A577-04207E01C787@sb.org
Message-ID: <6b8d371ac4e4f23a7b5b14f3fce8afdc@pepe.cryer.us>



On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:59:49 -0800, Kevin Ballard <kevin at sb.org> wrote:
> Yeah, that number is flawed. It only updates when the file it's
> actually stored in is modified, which is never since the file only
> exists to contain that number.
> 
> If we're going to have this feature we really need to figure out some
> way to keep it updated.

If we made it part of the migration we could have something like:

TYPO_VERSION=`svn info | grep Revision\:\ | cut -f2 -d' '`; echo "Typo r${TYPO_VERSION}"

then redirect it into lib/typo_version.rb, but I can't figure out the syntax of that file.

P
-- 
http://fak3r.com - you don't have to kick it


From scott at sigkill.org  Tue Jan 31 13:53:30 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:53:30 -0800
Subject: [typo] Upgrade to 855 - no migration
In-Reply-To: <6b8d371ac4e4f23a7b5b14f3fce8afdc@pepe.cryer.us>
References: <6b8d371ac4e4f23a7b5b14f3fce8afdc@pepe.cryer.us>
Message-ID: <EB0391DB-9D3F-422D-92CC-5A87E9D63B1C@sigkill.org>


On Jan 31, 2006, at 10:44 AM, phil wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:59:49 -0800, Kevin Ballard <kevin at sb.org>  
> wrote:
>> Yeah, that number is flawed. It only updates when the file it's
>> actually stored in is modified, which is never since the file only
>> exists to contain that number.
>>
>> If we're going to have this feature we really need to figure out some
>> way to keep it updated.
>
> If we made it part of the migration we could have something like:
>
> TYPO_VERSION=`svn info | grep Revision\:\ | cut -f2 -d' '`; echo  
> "Typo r${TYPO_VERSION}"
>
> then redirect it into lib/typo_version.rb, but I can't figure out  
> the syntax of that file.

That also assumes that everyone is using svn; quite a few people use  
svk, which would need a slightly different command.

I don't think there's really a good solution to this problem,  
unfortunately.


Scott

From scott at sigkill.org  Tue Jan 31 14:07:51 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:07:51 -0800
Subject: [typo] Bugs to work on
In-Reply-To: <cc4e85f30601311031h69abfcaer7ade555bd10f2d09@mail.gmail.com>
References: <377705AC-5BD0-4D19-995C-BE6FAA8D9873@sigkill.org>
	<cc4e85f30601311031h69abfcaer7ade555bd10f2d09@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AA95F06F-1361-4547-848A-7B076D1B1CAA@sigkill.org>

4.0 is what we're going to call the next release; it's what we'll get  
when we finish fixing the bugs in the current SVN tree.


Scott

On Jan 31, 2006, at 10:31 AM, Steve Longdo wrote:

> I see references to Typo 4.0 on trac, is this code avilable  
> somewhere in SVN?
>
> On 1/23/06, Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org > wrote:
> I've obviously been a bit out of touch lately, but I think I can
> finally get back to Typo hacking.  At the moment, we have 133 open
> tickets, which is a bit more then I really feel like tackling at the
> moment.  Is there any sort of consensus on which bugs are the more
> irritating, an/or which patches are most in need of being applied?
>
>
> Scott
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list

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From phil at cryer.us  Tue Jan 31 14:08:05 2006
From: phil at cryer.us (phil)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:08:05 -0600
Subject: [typo] Upgrade to 855 - no migration
In-Reply-To: EB0391DB-9D3F-422D-92CC-5A87E9D63B1C@sigkill.org
Message-ID: <e9d4d089e0cf5f959770a9fd6fdfbc69@pepe.cryer.us>



On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:53:30 -0800, Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org> wrote:
> 
> On Jan 31, 2006, at 10:44 AM, phil wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:59:49 -0800, Kevin Ballard <kevin at sb.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Yeah, that number is flawed. It only updates when the file it's
>>> actually stored in is modified, which is never since the file only
>>> exists to contain that number.
>>>
>>> If we're going to have this feature we really need to figure out some
>>> way to keep it updated.
>>
>> If we made it part of the migration we could have something like:
>>
>> TYPO_VERSION=`svn info | grep Revision\:\ | cut -f2
>
>That also assumes that everyone is using svn; quite a few people use
>svk, which would need a slightly different command.
>
>I don't think there's really a good solution to this problem,
>unfortunately.

Unless we had a standardized CHANGELOG file that migration could grep and get a version number from and plug it int that way.

P
-- 
http://fak3r.com - you don't have to kick it


From scott at sigkill.org  Tue Jan 31 14:14:33 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:14:33 -0800
Subject: [typo] Upgrade to 855 - no migration
In-Reply-To: <e9d4d089e0cf5f959770a9fd6fdfbc69@pepe.cryer.us>
References: <e9d4d089e0cf5f959770a9fd6fdfbc69@pepe.cryer.us>
Message-ID: <607301F7-F536-42EE-8151-B334F865C604@sigkill.org>


On Jan 31, 2006, at 11:08 AM, phil wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:53:30 -0800, Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org>  
> wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2006, at 10:44 AM, phil wrote:
>>> On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:59:49 -0800, Kevin Ballard <kevin at sb.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Yeah, that number is flawed. It only updates when the file it's
>>>> actually stored in is modified, which is never since the file only
>>>> exists to contain that number.
>>>>
>>>> If we're going to have this feature we really need to figure out  
>>>> some
>>>> way to keep it updated.
>>>
>>> If we made it part of the migration we could have something like:
>>>
>>> TYPO_VERSION=`svn info | grep Revision\:\ | cut -f2
>>
>> That also assumes that everyone is using svn; quite a few people use
>> svk, which would need a slightly different command.
>>
>> I don't think there's really a good solution to this problem,
>> unfortunately.
>
> Unless we had a standardized CHANGELOG file that migration could  
> grep and get a version number from and plug it int that way.

That'd basically amount to repeating ourselves, since the SVN logs  
include all of the basic changelog information.  It might be possible  
to get a subversion post-commit hook to update the changelog file,  
but if we can do that, we might as well have it update the version  
file directly :-).

We should probably go ahead and change the version file to always say  
"development version" or something similar for SVN checkouts, and  
then make the release script update the version number for releases.


Scott

From steve.longdo at gmail.com  Tue Jan 31 14:39:10 2006
From: steve.longdo at gmail.com (Steve Longdo)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:39:10 -0600
Subject: [typo] Bugs to work on
In-Reply-To: <AA95F06F-1361-4547-848A-7B076D1B1CAA@sigkill.org>
References: <377705AC-5BD0-4D19-995C-BE6FAA8D9873@sigkill.org>
	<cc4e85f30601311031h69abfcaer7ade555bd10f2d09@mail.gmail.com>
	<AA95F06F-1361-4547-848A-7B076D1B1CAA@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <cc4e85f30601311139v93b9d13i7d6530edc629a652@mail.gmail.com>

Is comment threading like on your website enabled in the SVN trunk or is
that a modification that you have only made for your website?

On 1/31/06, Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org> wrote:
>
> 4.0 is what we're going to call the next release; it's what we'll get when
> we finish fixing the bugs in the current SVN tree.
>
> Scott
>
> On Jan 31, 2006, at 10:31 AM, Steve Longdo wrote:
>
> I see references to Typo 4.0 on trac, is this code avilable somewhere in
> SVN?
>
> On 1/23/06, Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org > wrote:
> >
> > I've obviously been a bit out of touch lately, but I think I can
> > finally get back to Typo hacking.  At the moment, we have 133 open
> > tickets, which is a bit more then I really feel like tackling at the
> > moment.  Is there any sort of consensus on which bugs are the more
> > irritating, an/or which patches are most in need of being applied?
> >
> >
> > Scott
> > _______________________________________________
> > Typo-list mailing list
> > Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
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From scott at sigkill.org  Tue Jan 31 14:58:31 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:58:31 -0800
Subject: [typo] Bugs to work on
In-Reply-To: <cc4e85f30601311139v93b9d13i7d6530edc629a652@mail.gmail.com>
References: <377705AC-5BD0-4D19-995C-BE6FAA8D9873@sigkill.org>
	<cc4e85f30601311031h69abfcaer7ade555bd10f2d09@mail.gmail.com>
	<AA95F06F-1361-4547-848A-7B076D1B1CAA@sigkill.org>
	<cc4e85f30601311139v93b9d13i7d6530edc629a652@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DD63EEB0-C116-4381-874B-D656AB29A7DC@sigkill.org>

It's a long saga :-).  I wrote it for Typo, but Tobi didn't want to  
merge it at the time, so I've been semi-maintaining it as a fork,  
which really sucks.  Frankly, he did the right thing rejecting it-- 
the code's kind of flaky.

So my goal is to rewrite it and merge it, but I just haven't had the  
time to get started on it yet.  Take a look at http://scottstuff.net/ 
blog/articles/2005/09/15/comments-for-typo and let me know if you  
have any comments on, er, comments :-).


Scott

On Jan 31, 2006, at 11:39 AM, Steve Longdo wrote:

> Is comment threading like on your website enabled in the SVN trunk  
> or is that a modification that you have only made for your website?
>
> On 1/31/06, Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org> wrote:
> 4.0 is what we're going to call the next release; it's what we'll  
> get when we finish fixing the bugs in the current SVN tree.
>
>
> Scott
>
> On Jan 31, 2006, at 10:31 AM, Steve Longdo wrote:
>
>> I see references to Typo 4.0 on trac, is this code avilable  
>> somewhere in SVN?
>>
>> On 1/23/06, Scott Laird < scott at sigkill.org > wrote:
>> I've obviously been a bit out of touch lately, but I think I can
>> finally get back to Typo hacking.  At the moment, we have 133 open
>> tickets, which is a bit more then I really feel like tackling at the
>> moment.  Is there any sort of consensus on which bugs are the more
>> irritating, an/or which patches are most in need of being applied?
>>
>>
>> Scott
>> _______________________________________________
>> Typo-list mailing list
>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Typo-list mailing list
>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list

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From jburks725 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 31 15:55:03 2006
From: jburks725 at gmail.com (Jason Burks)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:55:03 -0500
Subject: [typo] Problem with text filters in comments (svn rev 855)
Message-ID: <9bbab4e0601311255p6527f7e9y84e814b043f169a3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I'm running 855 and noticed an issue with comments.  I have Markdown
turned on for comments and articles.  It works properly for articles,
but in comments, it seems that Typo tries to mark URL text "clickable"
in addition to passing it through the text filter.  This results in
something like the following:

[Google](http://www.google.com "Google") this

should be transformed to:

<a href='http://www.google.com' title='Google'>Google</a> this

but instead it generates the following:
<a href="a href='http://www.google.com'
rel="nofollow>http://www.google.com</a title="Google">Google</a> this

I'm thinking this may be part of the spam protection code, but
obviously the output is not what the user intends.  Additionally, it
renders correctly when you preview the comment, it's only when you
actually submit that it breaks.  Is anyone else seeing this behavior? 
Should I create a bug ticket?

Regards,
Jason


From scott at sigkill.org  Tue Jan 31 16:09:04 2006
From: scott at sigkill.org (Scott Laird)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:09:04 -0800
Subject: [typo] Problem with text filters in comments (svn rev 855)
In-Reply-To: <9bbab4e0601311255p6527f7e9y84e814b043f169a3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9bbab4e0601311255p6527f7e9y84e814b043f169a3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <309C194A-F715-4D70-A022-74F5D9172BBC@sigkill.org>

File a ticket.


Scott

On Jan 31, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Jason Burks wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I'm running 855 and noticed an issue with comments.  I have Markdown
> turned on for comments and articles.  It works properly for articles,
> but in comments, it seems that Typo tries to mark URL text "clickable"
> in addition to passing it through the text filter.  This results in
> something like the following:
>
> [Google](http://www.google.com "Google") this
>
> should be transformed to:
>
> <a href='http://www.google.com' title='Google'>Google</a> this
>
> but instead it generates the following:
> <a href="a href='http://www.google.com'
> rel="nofollow>http://www.google.com</a title="Google">Google</a> this
>
> I'm thinking this may be part of the spam protection code, but
> obviously the output is not what the user intends.  Additionally, it
> renders correctly when you preview the comment, it's only when you
> actually submit that it breaks.  Is anyone else seeing this behavior?
> Should I create a bug ticket?
>
> Regards,
> Jason
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From steve.longdo at gmail.com  Tue Jan 31 16:42:38 2006
From: steve.longdo at gmail.com (Steve Longdo)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 15:42:38 -0600
Subject: [typo] Bugs to work on
In-Reply-To: <DD63EEB0-C116-4381-874B-D656AB29A7DC@sigkill.org>
References: <377705AC-5BD0-4D19-995C-BE6FAA8D9873@sigkill.org>
	<cc4e85f30601311031h69abfcaer7ade555bd10f2d09@mail.gmail.com>
	<AA95F06F-1361-4547-848A-7B076D1B1CAA@sigkill.org>
	<cc4e85f30601311139v93b9d13i7d6530edc629a652@mail.gmail.com>
	<DD63EEB0-C116-4381-874B-D656AB29A7DC@sigkill.org>
Message-ID: <cc4e85f30601311342k777c781dw707c2d00a17cd590@mail.gmail.com>

I've been working on a polling system for use with Typo.  I think it woud be
cool to be able to allow commenters to vote (+1 or a 1-5,1-10 system) either
on the author's posting or an individual's comment.
Originally I started polluting the Typo codebase with my polling stuff, but
now I am breaking it out into an engine.  I may add a act_as_pollable plugin
to interact with any ActiveRecord object.
I am not sure how I can make this work with Typo's single table for articles
and comments.  When you created the comment threading did you split comments
into a different table or is it all handled inside of the content table?

On 1/31/06, Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org> wrote:
>
> It's a long saga :-).  I wrote it for Typo, but Tobi didn't want to merge
> it at the time, so I've been semi-maintaining it as a fork, which really
> sucks.  Frankly, he did the right thing rejecting it--the code's kind of
> flaky.
> So my goal is to rewrite it and merge it, but I just haven't had the time
> to get started on it yet.  Take a look at
> http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/09/15/comments-for-typo and let
> me know if you have any comments on, er, comments :-).
>
>
> Scott
>
> On Jan 31, 2006, at 11:39 AM, Steve Longdo wrote:
>
> Is comment threading like on your website enabled in the SVN trunk or is
> that a modification that you have only made for your website?
>
> On 1/31/06, Scott Laird <scott at sigkill.org> wrote:
> >
> > 4.0 is what we're going to call the next release; it's what we'll get
> > when we finish fixing the bugs in the current SVN tree.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On Jan 31, 2006, at 10:31 AM, Steve Longdo wrote:
> >
> > I see references to Typo 4.0 on trac, is this code avilable somewhere in
> > SVN?
> >
> > On 1/23/06, Scott Laird < scott at sigkill.org > wrote:
> > >
> > > I've obviously been a bit out of touch lately, but I think I can
> > > finally get back to Typo hacking.  At the moment, we have 133 open
> > > tickets, which is a bit more then I really feel like tackling at the
> > > moment.  Is there any sort of consensus on which bugs are the more
> > > irritating, an/or which patches are most in need of being applied?
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Typo-list mailing list
> > > Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Typo-list mailing list
> > Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Typo-list mailing list
> > Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
>
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