From zaydana at gmail.com  Wed May  2 09:44:37 2007
From: zaydana at gmail.com (James Nelson)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 21:44:37 +0800
Subject: [typo] edge rails fix
Message-ID: <6e69c7930705020644x5f161499v99aae49101a3a88b@mail.gmail.com>

There was a problem when running in edge rails, due to the localization
plugin occuring twice in environment.rb. The fix was to change line 21 in
environment.rb from :

config.plugins.push("#{dir}") if
File.directory?("#{RAILS_ROOT}/vendor/plugins/#{dir}/lib")


to:

config.plugins.push("#{dir}") if
(File.directory?("#{RAILS_ROOT}/vendor/plugins/#{dir}/lib")
&& dir != 'localization')

For the record, i'm using typo 4.1.

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From zaydana at gmail.com  Wed May  2 10:36:38 2007
From: zaydana at gmail.com (James Nelson)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 22:36:38 +0800
Subject: [typo] more edge rails compatability
Message-ID: <6e69c7930705020736t11e52a56x2399ca57833889b4@mail.gmail.com>

in theme_helper.rb, line 17 (in typo 4.1), @base_path needs to be replaced
with @view_paths[0]

I don't know if this is the best way to do it, but it works.

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From zaydana at gmail.com  Fri May  4 15:12:45 2007
From: zaydana at gmail.com (James Nelson)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 03:12:45 +0800
Subject: [typo] Audioscrobbler plugin
Message-ID: <6e69c7930705041212o3b2ae2fckb0336e540c497f7f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi people

I've been trying for a while now to get the audioscrobbler plugin to work
with the new audioscrobbler feeds, but without much success. My problem is
mostly that I can't seem to figure out how the plugin system works.

For a start, any RAILS_DEFAULT_LOGGER call I put in the audioscrobbler
plugin code under lib in the plugin directory (or in init.rb) doesn't seem
to get called. Its like the actual plugin code isn't being loaded. However,
the actual view is appearing (empty) in my application.

Any ideas?

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From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Sat May  5 02:30:17 2007
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 07:30:17 +0100
Subject: [typo] more edge rails compatability
In-Reply-To: <6e69c7930705020736t11e52a56x2399ca57833889b4@mail.gmail.com>
	(James Nelson's message of "Wed, 2 May 2007 22:36:38 +0800")
References: <6e69c7930705020736t11e52a56x2399ca57833889b4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <m1abwj235y.fsf@Obelisk.local>

"James Nelson" <zaydana at gmail.com> writes:

> in theme_helper.rb, line 17 (in typo 4.1), @base_path needs to be replaced
> with @view_paths[0]
>
> I don't know if this is the best way to do it, but it works.

Does it still work with 1.2.3 though? Or are we going to have another
bunch of 'big bang' type changes when the edge becomes the release?

-- 
Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
http://www.bofh.org.uk/

From zaydana at gmail.com  Sat May  5 03:10:27 2007
From: zaydana at gmail.com (James Nelson)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 15:10:27 +0800
Subject: [typo] more edge rails compatability
In-Reply-To: <m1abwj235y.fsf@Obelisk.local>
References: <6e69c7930705020736t11e52a56x2399ca57833889b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<m1abwj235y.fsf@Obelisk.local>
Message-ID: <6e69c7930705050010y1740042eoa3ff7f49fd375c9f@mail.gmail.com>

Well,

The first one I posted, which can't really be applied to typo trunk because
it has already changed since the last release, will be fine on the current
rails version.  Basically you just need to make sure the same plugin isn't
added to the plugin list more than once.

@base_path to @view_paths[0]e however won't work with 1.2.3. I wonder tho if
you could make it work in either by checking which variable exists...

On 5/5/07, Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk> wrote:
>
> "James Nelson" <zaydana at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > in theme_helper.rb, line 17 (in typo 4.1), @base_path needs to be
> replaced
> > with @view_paths[0]
> >
> > I don't know if this is the best way to do it, but it works.
>
> Does it still work with 1.2.3 though? Or are we going to have another
> bunch of 'big bang' type changes when the edge becomes the release?
>
> --
> Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
> http://www.bofh.org.uk/
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
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From alxx at indigenious.ro  Sat May  5 11:41:34 2007
From: alxx at indigenious.ro (Alex Deva)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 18:41:34 +0300
Subject: [typo] localization in general, Romanian localization file
Message-ID: <221724F1-C6FE-44A4-87AE-5BDF274FCA56@indigenious.ro>

Hi,

A. I'm not sure who to tell about this, but I've created a  
localization file in Romanian, and I'd like to make it available for  
inclusion in the next release. Will an administrator tell me where to  
send my lang/ro_RO.rb please? :)

Incidentally, I've also fixed a few other files whose strings weren't  
localized. At the time I'm writing this mail, they are:
  vendor/plugins/xml_sidebar/views/content.rhtml
  vendor/plugins/category_sidebar/views/content.rhtml
  app/helpers/articles_helper.rb
  views/shared/_search.rhtml

I'll keep on patching them. If anyone's interested, I can make them  
available too.

B. Another thing which is, in my opinion, not very nice is that there  
are some Javascript strings which can't easily be localized using the  
_() notation. Among others, that's why you'll always see "x hours  
ago" in English, regardless of your configured language.

To fix this, I've done the following 5 steps:

	1. Patched localization.rb by adding:
		def self.all_keys
			@@l10s[lang].keys
		end

	2. Added a method in articles_controller.rb:
	  def localized_js

  	    # We only retrieve translations which have to do with the  
Javascript strings; we don't want to overload the browser.
	    js_content = Localization.all_keys.collect { |key| if key =~ / 
^js_(.+)/ ; $1 end }.compact

	    render :content_type => 'text/javascript', :text => 'var  
LocalizedStrings = {' +
	        js_content.collect { |key| lkey="js_#{key}"; "\"#{key}\" :  
\"#{_(lkey)}\"" }.join(', ') +
	      '}
	        String.prototype.localize = function() {
	                var s;
	                if(LocalizedStrings && (s=LocalizedStrings[this]) )  
return s;
	                return this;
	        }'
	  end

	3. Added a line in the default.rhtml of the active theme (maybe  
there's a better place for this, but I couldn't find it yet):
		<script src="/articles/localized_js" type="text/javascript"></script>

	4. Added translations in the file like this:
		l.store 'js_hours', 'ore'

	5. In all Javascript code, I replaced strings like this:
		Before: "hours"
		After: "js_hours".localize()

C. In Romanian (and other languages), words used to express time  
difference from now (like 'ago' and 'from now') prepend the numeral,  
contrary to the English rules. That is why I also had to change some  
logic in the function get_local_time_for_date() (file typo.js) and  
translate 'ago' and 'from now' as the empty string.


That's it for now. Sorry for sending all this in an email. If an  
admin feels I should be submitting these as patches, please tell me  
how. I've only been using Typo for a few hours. Thanks!

   Alex Deva
   Indigenious Development
   www.indigenious.ro



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From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Sun May  6 05:44:07 2007
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 10:44:07 +0100
Subject: [typo] States!
Message-ID: <m1zm4iz3q0.fsf@Obelisk.local>

I have, in my local directory a rewrite of the whole ContentState
debacle. The State pattern is definitely the way to go for handling
publication state; dealing with the kind of tangled conditional logic
that we'd have to replace the state objects with gives me the heebie
jeebies.

However, as I'm sure anyone who's looked at the existing code will
agree, what we have good be a good deal better. The problem is that I
got seduced by the (oh so handy but not quite what I need) existence
of ActiveRecord::Base.composed_of and instead of writing my own class
method to handle marshalling state objects to and from the database, I
used what Rails provided.

When you find yourself overriding 'new', it's probably a good time to
take a good hard think about what you're trying to achieve.

Anyhoo. A few days ago I was taking part in a discussion about
eliminating conditional code on a blog[1] and I found myself sketching
a rather nicer way of setting up state objects.

So, I've implemented it in typo and I must say I'm rather pleased with
it - I expect to be committing it soon, once I've given it a more
comprehensive test. Here's a taster of the new style:

  class Article
    self.has_state :state,
      :valid_states => [:new,
                        :draft,
                        :just_published, :published, 
                        :publication_pending,
                        :just_withdrawn, :withdrawn]
      :handles      => [:before_save, :after_save,
                        :withdraw, :published=]

    module States
      class New < State
        def before_save
          content.state = :draft
        end

        def published=(boolean)
          return if boolean.nil?
          content.state = boolean ? :just_published : :draft
        end
      end

      class JustPublished < State
        def enter_hook
          class << content; self; end.after_save {|content| content.send_pings}
          content.state = :published
        end
      end

      class Published < State
        def enter_hook
          content[:published] = true
          content[:published_at] ||= Time.now
        end

        def withdraw
          content.state = :just_withdrawn
        end
      end

      ...
    end
    include States

The has_state method deals with all the composed_of type ugliness and
setting up instantiation of state objects and method delgation, and we
can get rid of nasties like ContentState::Factory, which can only be a
good thing.

1. http://giantrobots.thoughtbot.com/2007/5/1/coding-without-ifs


-- 
Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
http://www.bofh.org.uk/

From neuro at 7el.net  Sun May  6 06:21:16 2007
From: neuro at 7el.net (Frederic de Villamil)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 12:21:16 +0200
Subject: [typo] localization in general, Romanian localization file
In-Reply-To: <221724F1-C6FE-44A4-87AE-5BDF274FCA56@indigenious.ro>
References: <221724F1-C6FE-44A4-87AE-5BDF274FCA56@indigenious.ro>
Message-ID: <B075869B-F055-4D81-8E06-790EFFF4F36E@7el.net>

Hi,

For the localization file in .ro, open a ticket on the trac and add  
it as an attachment, I'll add it to the trunk after.
For the js change, create a patch, open a ticket on the trac and add  
it as an attachment, and maybe I'll add it after a few testing.

Cheers,
Fr?d?ric

Le 5 mai 07 ? 17:41, Alex Deva a ?crit :

> Hi,
>
> A. I'm not sure who to tell about this, but I've created a  
> localization file in Romanian, and I'd like to make it available  
> for inclusion in the next release. Will an administrator tell me  
> where to send my lang/ro_RO.rb please? :)
>
> Incidentally, I've also fixed a few other files whose strings  
> weren't localized. At the time I'm writing this mail, they are:
>  vendor/plugins/xml_sidebar/views/content.rhtml
>  vendor/plugins/category_sidebar/views/content.rhtml
>  app/helpers/articles_helper.rb
>  views/shared/_search.rhtml
>
> I'll keep on patching them. If anyone's interested, I can make them  
> available too.
>
> B. Another thing which is, in my opinion, not very nice is that  
> there are some Javascript strings which can't easily be localized  
> using the _() notation. Among others, that's why you'll always see  
> "x hours ago" in English, regardless of your configured language.
>
> To fix this, I've done the following 5 steps:
>
> 	1. Patched localization.rb by adding:
> 		def self.all_keys
> 			@@l10s[lang].keys
> 		end
>
> 	2. Added a method in articles_controller.rb:
> 	  def localized_js
>
>  	    # We only retrieve translations which have to do with the  
> Javascript strings; we don't want to overload the browser.
> 	    js_content = Localization.all_keys.collect { |key| if key =~ / 
> ^js_(.+)/ ; $1 end }.compact
>
> 	    render :content_type => 'text/javascript', :text => 'var  
> LocalizedStrings = {' +
> 	        js_content.collect { |key| lkey="js_#{key}"; "\"#{key}\" :  
> \"#{_(lkey)}\"" }.join(', ') +
> 	      '}
> 	        String.prototype.localize = function() {
> 	                var s;
> 	                if(LocalizedStrings && (s=LocalizedStrings 
> [this]) ) return s;
> 	                return this;
> 	        }'
> 	  end
>
> 	3. Added a line in the default.rhtml of the active theme (maybe  
> there's a better place for this, but I couldn't find it yet):
> 		<script src="/articles/localized_js" type="text/javascript"></ 
> script>
>
> 	4. Added translations in the file like this:
> 		l.store 'js_hours', 'ore'
>
> 	5. In all Javascript code, I replaced strings like this:
> 		Before: "hours"
> 		After: "js_hours".localize()
>
> C. In Romanian (and other languages), words used to express time  
> difference from now (like 'ago' and 'from now') prepend the  
> numeral, contrary to the English rules. That is why I also had to  
> change some logic in the function get_local_time_for_date() (file  
> typo.js) and translate 'ago' and 'from now' as the empty string.
>
>
> That's it for now. Sorry for sending all this in an email. If an  
> admin feels I should be submitting these as patches, please tell me  
> how. I've only been using Typo for a few hours. Thanks!
>
>   Alex Deva
>   Indigenious Development
>   www.indigenious.ro
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list

--
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frederic at de-villamil.com                        tel: +33 (0)6 62 19 1337
http://fredericdevillamil.com		     Typo : http://typosphere.org





From neuro at 7el.net  Sun May  6 06:22:51 2007
From: neuro at 7el.net (Frederic de Villamil)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 12:22:51 +0200
Subject: [typo] States!
In-Reply-To: <m1zm4iz3q0.fsf@Obelisk.local>
References: <m1zm4iz3q0.fsf@Obelisk.local>
Message-ID: <88BF9DC1-E85D-43A4-91D8-5F74A49F36CC@7el.net>

Le 6 mai 07 ? 11:44, Piers Cawley a ?crit :

> I have, in my local directory a rewrite of the whole ContentState
> debacle. The State pattern is definitely the way to go for handling
> publication state; dealing with the kind of tangled conditional logic
> that we'd have to replace the state objects with gives me the heebie
> jeebies.
>
> However, as I'm sure anyone who's looked at the existing code will
> agree, what we have good be a good deal better. The problem is that I
> got seduced by the (oh so handy but not quite what I need) existence
> of ActiveRecord::Base.composed_of and instead of writing my own class
> method to handle marshalling state objects to and from the database, I
> used what Rails provided.
>
> When you find yourself overriding 'new', it's probably a good time to
> take a good hard think about what you're trying to achieve.
>
> Anyhoo. A few days ago I was taking part in a discussion about
> eliminating conditional code on a blog[1] and I found myself sketching
> a rather nicer way of setting up state objects.
>
> So, I've implemented it in typo and I must say I'm rather pleased with
> it - I expect to be committing it soon, once I've given it a more
>
> The has_state method deals with all the composed_of type ugliness and
> setting up instantiation of state objects and method delgation, and we
> can get rid of nasties like ContentState::Factory, which can only be a
> good thing.
>
> 1. http://giantrobots.thoughtbot.com/2007/5/1/coding-without-ifs
>

Sounds really nice to e. When do you think you'll have it in the  
trunk ? I was planning to release 4.1.1 today, but I can wait until  
tuesday for this and the romanian translation file if I can catch it  
on time.

Cheers
Fr?d?ric

--
Fr?d?ric de Villamil
frederic at de-villamil.com                        tel: +33 (0)6 62 19 1337
http://fredericdevillamil.com		     Typo : http://typosphere.org





From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Sun May  6 07:50:04 2007
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 12:50:04 +0100
Subject: [typo] States!
In-Reply-To: <88BF9DC1-E85D-43A4-91D8-5F74A49F36CC@7el.net> (Frederic de
	Villamil's message of "Sun, 6 May 2007 12:22:51 +0200")
References: <m1zm4iz3q0.fsf@Obelisk.local>
	<88BF9DC1-E85D-43A4-91D8-5F74A49F36CC@7el.net>
Message-ID: <m1vef6yxw3.fsf@Obelisk.local>

Frederic de Villamil <neuro at 7el.net> writes:
> Sounds really nice to e. When do you think you'll have it in the  
> trunk ? I was planning to release 4.1.1 today, but I can wait until  
> tuesday for this and the romanian translation file if I can catch it  
> on time.

Release it. I think we should try and stick to regular releases and
not go holding things up because something's coming down the pike. So
what we the state system isn't refactored this time, it'll go into the
next release which isn't that far off.

-- 
Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
http://www.bofh.org.uk/

From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Mon May  7 13:26:55 2007
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 18:26:55 +0100
Subject: [typo] States! Again!
Message-ID: <m1fy68zgrk.fsf@Obelisk.local>

Whee! Tests are passing! In far less time than I expected!

Time go do the supermarket hunter/gatherer thing, eat food and return,
refreshed to the refactoring fray.

-- 
Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
http://www.bofh.org.uk/

From neuro at 7el.net  Mon May  7 16:43:30 2007
From: neuro at 7el.net (Frederic de Villamil)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 22:43:30 +0200
Subject: [typo] Typo 4.1.1 is out
Message-ID: <8D08B74E-31DF-4FBF-89C5-8548EFC02D86@7el.net>

Hi list,

We're proud to announce the next stone on the road to 4.2 with the  
release of Typo 4.1.1

Typo 4.1.1 is mostly a bugfix release, but we couldn't make you wait  
any longer without adding improuvements :
? TinyMCE visual editor : you can now choose between no preview, AJAX  
based live preview and TinyMCE visual editor to write your posts.
? Sitealizer statistics plugin has been added to Typo.
? German and Romanian translation
? Sidebar items call from anywhere in your templates (who said "3  
columns" ?).

And many more
Regards,
Fr?d?ric

--
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frederic at de-villamil.com                        tel: +33 (0)6 62 19 1337
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From trejkaz at trypticon.org  Mon May  7 17:55:34 2007
From: trejkaz at trypticon.org (Trejkaz)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 07:55:34 +1000
Subject: [typo] Typo 4.1.1 is out
In-Reply-To: <8D08B74E-31DF-4FBF-89C5-8548EFC02D86@7el.net>
References: <8D08B74E-31DF-4FBF-89C5-8548EFC02D86@7el.net>
Message-ID: <200705080755.36950.trejkaz@trypticon.org>

On Tuesday 08 May 2007 06:43, Frederic de Villamil wrote:
> ? Sidebar items call from anywhere in your templates (who said "3
> columns" ?).

In actual fact I had already figured out how to do 3 columns without modifying 
Typo itself (it's the same as 2 columns, only you split them into 3 groups 
instead of 2.) ;-)

TX

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From eamonford at mac.com  Thu May 10 02:37:39 2007
From: eamonford at mac.com (Eamon Ford)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 23:37:39 -0700
Subject: [typo] Problems upgrading to Typo 4.1.1
Message-ID: <63B18817-C9A8-47CC-8231-4A0BDB8FEB41@mac.com>

Hi everybody,
I downloaded and installed the latest version, 4.1.1, via the gem.  
But now when I go to my Typo blog, the CSS doesn't work and it won't  
accept my username and password to get into the admin panel. Also, it  
shows all my old posts, but when I look in the database (with a MySQL  
frontend), there are a bunch sample posts. Weird. Can anyone help me  
out?

Thanks in advance.

From urban at bettong.net  Thu May 10 05:48:05 2007
From: urban at bettong.net (Urban Hafner)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 10:48:05 +0100
Subject: [typo] Tag problem
Message-ID: <SYkxRlAM.1178790485.2770210.hafner@nelson.textdrive.com>

Hej,

I tried to use the following tag in one of my posts "web 2.0"
(including the quotes). When I click on the link I get a "Page not
found" error. See the post [1] and the tag page [2].

Urban

[1] http://bettong.net/articles/2007/05/08/the-new-web-2-0-car
[2] http://bettong.net/articles/tag/web2.0

From neuro at 7el.net  Thu May 10 06:16:14 2007
From: neuro at 7el.net (Frederic de Villamil)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 12:16:14 +0200
Subject: [typo] Tag problem
In-Reply-To: <SYkxRlAM.1178790485.2770210.hafner@nelson.textdrive.com>
References: <SYkxRlAM.1178790485.2770210.hafner@nelson.textdrive.com>
Message-ID: <7A4161C6-40AD-4B3F-9188-287CF27C3299@7el.net>

Le 10 mai 07 ? 11:48, Urban Hafner a ?crit :

> Hej,
>
> I tried to use the following tag in one of my posts "web 2.0"
> (including the quotes). When I click on the link I get a "Page not
> found" error. See the post [1] and the tag page [2].
>
> Urban
>

Hi

I'm aware of this issue having the same since I've installed typo
We need to change the . into - here and there. I should have done it  
before, but I'm a lazzy butt, and no one opened a ticket so I didn't  
think about it for 4.1.1

Open a ticket on the trac (or even better for my lazziness, leave a  
patch), I'll fix it soon.
Frederic


--
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frederic at de-villamil.com                        tel: +33 (0)6 62 19 1337
http://fredericdevillamil.com		     Typo : http://typosphere.org





From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Thu May 10 16:51:07 2007
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 21:51:07 +0100
Subject: [typo] Problems upgrading to Typo 4.1.1
In-Reply-To: <63B18817-C9A8-47CC-8231-4A0BDB8FEB41@mac.com> (Eamon Ford's
	message of "Wed, 9 May 2007 23:37:39 -0700")
References: <63B18817-C9A8-47CC-8231-4A0BDB8FEB41@mac.com>
Message-ID: <m1wszgxv0k.fsf@Obelisk.local>

Eamon Ford <eamonford at mac.com> writes:

> Hi everybody,
> I downloaded and installed the latest version, 4.1.1, via the gem.  
> But now when I go to my Typo blog, the CSS doesn't work and it won't  
> accept my username and password to get into the admin panel. Also, it  
> shows all my old posts, but when I look in the database (with a MySQL  
> frontend), there are a bunch sample posts. Weird. Can anyone help me  
> out?

What version did you upgrade from?

You should probably try running the migrations by hand. From the root
directory of your typo installation, do:

  RAILS_ENV=production rake db:migrate

Bounce the server (or the dispatch.fcgi processes) and see where that
gets you.

-- 
Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
http://www.bofh.org.uk/

From eamonford at mac.com  Thu May 10 18:55:39 2007
From: eamonford at mac.com (Eamon Ford)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 15:55:39 -0700
Subject: [typo] Problems upgrading to Typo 4.1.1
In-Reply-To: <m1wszgxv0k.fsf@Obelisk.local>
References: <63B18817-C9A8-47CC-8231-4A0BDB8FEB41@mac.com>
	<m1wszgxv0k.fsf@Obelisk.local>
Message-ID: <4D08E5C1-0C33-4248-A665-B3A62D4DF382@mac.com>

I'm upgrading from 4.0.3.

Hmm, I tried running "RAILS_ENV=production rake db:migrate" and then  
restarting the server, but it didn't have any effect... Any other  
things I can try?


On May 10, 2007, at 1:51 PM, Piers Cawley wrote:

> Eamon Ford <eamonford at mac.com> writes:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>> I downloaded and installed the latest version, 4.1.1, via the gem.
>> But now when I go to my Typo blog, the CSS doesn't work and it won't
>> accept my username and password to get into the admin panel. Also, it
>> shows all my old posts, but when I look in the database (with a MySQL
>> frontend), there are a bunch sample posts. Weird. Can anyone help me
>> out?
>
> What version did you upgrade from?
>
> You should probably try running the migrations by hand. From the root
> directory of your typo installation, do:
>
>   RAILS_ENV=production rake db:migrate
>
> Bounce the server (or the dispatch.fcgi processes) and see where that
> gets you.
>
> -- 
> Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
> http://www.bofh.org.uk/
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From rasputnik at gmail.com  Fri May 11 04:47:18 2007
From: rasputnik at gmail.com (Dick Davies)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 09:47:18 +0100
Subject: [typo] Problems upgrading to Typo 4.1.1
In-Reply-To: <m1wszgxv0k.fsf@Obelisk.local>
References: <63B18817-C9A8-47CC-8231-4A0BDB8FEB41@mac.com>
	<m1wszgxv0k.fsf@Obelisk.local>
Message-ID: <3f1760705110147n7c7c44cdu917ee1a57b093c96@mail.gmail.com>

Are you defnitely connecting to the production database (not devel or test)?

> Eamon Ford <eamonford at mac.com> writes:
>
> > Hi everybody,
> > I downloaded and installed the latest version, 4.1.1, via the gem.
> > But now when I go to my Typo blog, the CSS doesn't work and it won't
> > accept my username and password to get into the admin panel. Also, it
> > shows all my old posts, but when I look in the database (with a MySQL
> > frontend), there are a bunch sample posts. Weird. Can anyone help me
> > out?

-- 
Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns
http://number9.hellooperator.net/

From eamonford at mac.com  Fri May 11 10:19:55 2007
From: eamonford at mac.com (Eamon Ford)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 07:19:55 -0700
Subject: [typo] Problems upgrading to Typo 4.1.1
In-Reply-To: <3f1760705110147n7c7c44cdu917ee1a57b093c96@mail.gmail.com>
References: <63B18817-C9A8-47CC-8231-4A0BDB8FEB41@mac.com>
	<m1wszgxv0k.fsf@Obelisk.local>
	<3f1760705110147n7c7c44cdu917ee1a57b093c96@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D455ED43-E6A1-4E86-897E-66AC20EE3339@mac.com>

Yeah; I connected the production, dev, and test all to the same  
database.


On May 11, 2007, at 1:47 AM, Dick Davies wrote:

> Are you defnitely connecting to the production database (not devel  
> or test)?
>
>> Eamon Ford <eamonford at mac.com> writes:
>>
>>> Hi everybody,
>>> I downloaded and installed the latest version, 4.1.1, via the gem.
>>> But now when I go to my Typo blog, the CSS doesn't work and it won't
>>> accept my username and password to get into the admin panel.  
>>> Also, it
>>> shows all my old posts, but when I look in the database (with a  
>>> MySQL
>>> frontend), there are a bunch sample posts. Weird. Can anyone help me
>>> out?
>
> -- 
> Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns
> http://number9.hellooperator.net/
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From eamonford at mac.com  Fri May 11 16:48:07 2007
From: eamonford at mac.com (Eamon Ford)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:48:07 -0700
Subject: [typo] Problem restoring old database!
Message-ID: <012DDB3D-A56A-48BF-8ECB-5FB18B2D1A8B@mac.com>

I backed up my Typo database using "typo backup .". Now when I  
restore the database, everything seems to be there (according to a  
mysql frontend), but no posts show up on the blog, even though all  
the categories and tags do show up. Does anyone know what's going on?

Thanks in advance.

From rasputnik at gmail.com  Sat May 12 03:15:19 2007
From: rasputnik at gmail.com (Dick Davies)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 08:15:19 +0100
Subject: [typo] Problems upgrading to Typo 4.1.1
In-Reply-To: <D455ED43-E6A1-4E86-897E-66AC20EE3339@mac.com>
References: <63B18817-C9A8-47CC-8231-4A0BDB8FEB41@mac.com>
	<m1wszgxv0k.fsf@Obelisk.local>
	<3f1760705110147n7c7c44cdu917ee1a57b093c96@mail.gmail.com>
	<D455ED43-E6A1-4E86-897E-66AC20EE3339@mac.com>
Message-ID: <3f1760705120015o1c591699oa27c998627673be9@mail.gmail.com>

That's a really bad idea.

On 11/05/07, Eamon Ford <eamonford at mac.com> wrote:
> Yeah; I connected the production, dev, and test all to the same
> database.
>
>
> On May 11, 2007, at 1:47 AM, Dick Davies wrote:
>
> > Are you defnitely connecting to the production database (not devel
> > or test)?
> >
> >> Eamon Ford <eamonford at mac.com> writes:

> >>> Also, it
> >>> shows all my old posts, but when I look in the database (with a
> >>> MySQL
> >>> frontend), there are a bunch sample posts. Weird.

-- 
Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns
http://number9.hellooperator.net/

From trejkaz at trypticon.org  Sat May 12 03:40:50 2007
From: trejkaz at trypticon.org (Trejkaz)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 17:40:50 +1000
Subject: [typo] Problems upgrading to Typo 4.1.1
In-Reply-To: <3f1760705120015o1c591699oa27c998627673be9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <63B18817-C9A8-47CC-8231-4A0BDB8FEB41@mac.com>
	<D455ED43-E6A1-4E86-897E-66AC20EE3339@mac.com>
	<3f1760705120015o1c591699oa27c998627673be9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200705121740.53211.trejkaz@trypticon.org>

On 11/05/07, Eamon Ford <eamonford at mac.com> wrote:
> > Yeah; I connected the production, dev, and test all to the same
> > database.

On Saturday 12 May 2007 17:15, Dick Davies wrote:
> That's a really bad idea.

Especially test and production.  Run the unit tests just once and blam.

TX


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From rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz  Sat May 12 16:29:48 2007
From: rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz (Rodger Donaldson)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 08:29:48 +1200
Subject: [typo] 2.6 to 4.1.1 migration hell
Message-ID: <20070512202948.GA7397@diaspora.gen.nz>


So, I'm looking to migrate a typo 2.6 installation to 4.1.1.  Fate is
clearly punishing me for my laziness in not upgrading before.

In order to avoid hosing my production typo install I've taken a copy
(via cp -dpR) of the existing typo install, and done a dump/restore
from the production DB into a test DB.

RAILS_ENV is set to test; running  typo install /home/rodgerd/typo-4.1.1

churns for a while and then:

 Migrating Typo's database to newest release
rake aborted!
Multiple migrations have the version number 1

(See full trace by running task with --trace)
/usr/local/ruby-1.8.6/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-app-installer-0.2.0/lib/rails-installer.rb:530:in `migrate': Migration failed (RailsInstaller::InstallFailed)
 
So, thinks I, I'll whack this with a bigger hammer, knowing full well
it's probably a remarkably bad idea:

rake migrate VERSION=2 --trace

** Execute db:migrate
DEPRECATION WARNING: The inferred foreign_key name will change in Rails 2.0 to use the association name instead of its class name when they differ.  When using :class_name in belongs_to, use the :foreign_key option to explicitly set the key name to avoid problems in the transition.  See http://www.rubyonrails.org/deprecation for details. (called from ./db/migrate//039_serialize_blog_attributes.rb:4)
rake aborted!
Multiple migrations have the version number 9
/home/rodgerd/typo-4.1.1/config/../vendor/rails/activerecord/lib/active_record/migration.rb:354:in `assert_unique_migration_version'

So, is this: 

1/ A problem between chair and keyboard or
2/ A problem with the migrate scripts?

And is the best solution likely to be:

1/ Wait for a rails guru to fix the migrate scripts,
2/ Spend a few days learning how to fix the migrate scripts, or
3/ Uninstall 4.1.1, install 4.0, migrate 2.6 -> 4.0 and thence to 4.1?

-- 
Rodger Donaldson		rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz
"Democracy is the worst form of government.  Except, of course, for all
those other forms of government mankind has tried."

From eamonford at mac.com  Sat May 12 17:10:48 2007
From: eamonford at mac.com (Eamon Ford)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 14:10:48 -0700
Subject: [typo] Problems upgrading to Typo 4.1.1
In-Reply-To: <3f1760705120015o1c591699oa27c998627673be9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <63B18817-C9A8-47CC-8231-4A0BDB8FEB41@mac.com>
	<m1wszgxv0k.fsf@Obelisk.local>
	<3f1760705110147n7c7c44cdu917ee1a57b093c96@mail.gmail.com>
	<D455ED43-E6A1-4E86-897E-66AC20EE3339@mac.com>
	<3f1760705120015o1c591699oa27c998627673be9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <823EBC1A-7D3D-49F8-B87C-8AA55B7EF019@mac.com>

OK. I'm really new to Rails, so I have just a little more than no  
idea what the test/dev/production environments are about. I'll try  
creating a new database for test.


On May 12, 2007, at 12:15 AM, Dick Davies wrote:

> That's a really bad idea.
>
> On 11/05/07, Eamon Ford <eamonford at mac.com> wrote:
>> Yeah; I connected the production, dev, and test all to the same
>> database.
>>
>>
>> On May 11, 2007, at 1:47 AM, Dick Davies wrote:
>>
>>> Are you defnitely connecting to the production database (not devel
>>> or test)?
>>>
>>>> Eamon Ford <eamonford at mac.com> writes:
>
>>>>> Also, it
>>>>> shows all my old posts, but when I look in the database (with a
>>>>> MySQL
>>>>> frontend), there are a bunch sample posts. Weird.
>
> -- 
> Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns
> http://number9.hellooperator.net/
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From neuro at 7el.net  Sun May 13 01:21:22 2007
From: neuro at 7el.net (Frederic de Villamil)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 07:21:22 +0200
Subject: [typo] Problems upgrading to Typo 4.1.1
In-Reply-To: <823EBC1A-7D3D-49F8-B87C-8AA55B7EF019@mac.com>
References: <63B18817-C9A8-47CC-8231-4A0BDB8FEB41@mac.com>
	<m1wszgxv0k.fsf@Obelisk.local>
	<3f1760705110147n7c7c44cdu917ee1a57b093c96@mail.gmail.com>
	<D455ED43-E6A1-4E86-897E-66AC20EE3339@mac.com>
	<3f1760705120015o1c591699oa27c998627673be9@mail.gmail.com>
	<823EBC1A-7D3D-49F8-B87C-8AA55B7EF019@mac.com>
Message-ID: <F23A729F-79D7-44B5-866D-37906427A60F@7el.net>

Le 12 mai 07 ? 23:10, Eamon Ford a ?crit :

> OK. I'm really new to Rails, so I have just a little more than no
> idea what the test/dev/production environments are about. I'll try
> creating a new database for test.
>
>
> On May 12, 2007, at 12:15 AM, Dick Davies wrote:
>
>> That's a really bad idea.
>>
>> On 11/05/07, Eamon Ford <eamonford at mac.com> wrote:
>>> Yeah; I connected the production, dev, and test all to the same
>>> database.
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 11, 2007, at 1:47 AM, Dick Davies wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you defnitely connecting to the production database (not devel
>>>> or test)?
>>>>
>>>>> Eamon Ford <eamonford at mac.com> writes:
>>
>>>>>> Also, it
>>>>>> shows all my old posts, but when I look in the database (with a
>>>>>> MySQL
>>>>>> frontend), there are a bunch sample posts. Weird.
>>

test database is for tests and wiped everytime rake test is ran and  
filled with test data
development databsae is for... developpment
production test is for production

Rails application really should have at least 2 (test + dev / prod)  
databases
--
Fr?d?ric de Villamil
frederic at de-villamil.com                        tel: +33 (0)6 62 19 1337
http://fredericdevillamil.com		     Typo : http://typosphere.org





From eamonford at mac.com  Sun May 13 01:25:41 2007
From: eamonford at mac.com (Eamon Ford)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 22:25:41 -0700
Subject: [typo] Problems upgrading to Typo 4.1.1
In-Reply-To: <F23A729F-79D7-44B5-866D-37906427A60F@7el.net>
References: <63B18817-C9A8-47CC-8231-4A0BDB8FEB41@mac.com>
	<m1wszgxv0k.fsf@Obelisk.local>
	<3f1760705110147n7c7c44cdu917ee1a57b093c96@mail.gmail.com>
	<D455ED43-E6A1-4E86-897E-66AC20EE3339@mac.com>
	<3f1760705120015o1c591699oa27c998627673be9@mail.gmail.com>
	<823EBC1A-7D3D-49F8-B87C-8AA55B7EF019@mac.com>
	<F23A729F-79D7-44B5-866D-37906427A60F@7el.net>
Message-ID: <C6F4E4C6-52A2-4CB2-ACAB-194818ABE3EE@mac.com>

Aha, okay. Thanks.


On May 12, 2007, at 10:21 PM, Frederic de Villamil wrote:

> Le 12 mai 07 ? 23:10, Eamon Ford a ?crit :
>
>> OK. I'm really new to Rails, so I have just a little more than no
>> idea what the test/dev/production environments are about. I'll try
>> creating a new database for test.
>>
>>
>> On May 12, 2007, at 12:15 AM, Dick Davies wrote:
>>
>>> That's a really bad idea.
>>>
>>> On 11/05/07, Eamon Ford <eamonford at mac.com> wrote:
>>>> Yeah; I connected the production, dev, and test all to the same
>>>> database.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 11, 2007, at 1:47 AM, Dick Davies wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are you defnitely connecting to the production database (not devel
>>>>> or test)?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Eamon Ford <eamonford at mac.com> writes:
>>>
>>>>>>> Also, it
>>>>>>> shows all my old posts, but when I look in the database (with a
>>>>>>> MySQL
>>>>>>> frontend), there are a bunch sample posts. Weird.
>>>
>
> test database is for tests and wiped everytime rake test is ran and
> filled with test data
> development databsae is for... developpment
> production test is for production
>
> Rails application really should have at least 2 (test + dev / prod)
> databases
> --
> Fr?d?ric de Villamil
> frederic at de-villamil.com                        tel: +33 (0)6 62 19  
> 1337
> http://fredericdevillamil.com		     Typo : http://typosphere.org
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz  Sun May 13 15:24:19 2007
From: rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz (Rodger Donaldson)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 07:24:19 +1200
Subject: [typo] 2.6 to 4.1.1 migration hell  RESOLVED
Message-ID: <20070513192419.GA14583@diaspora.gen.nz>


To answer my own problem:

Trying to upgrade from 2.6 to 4.0.3 produced the same collection of:

 Migrating Typo's database to newest release
rake aborted!
Multiple migrations have the version number 1

...errors.  Googling harder on the problem found me the answer; my
typo/db/migrate directory looked like:

rodgerd at israel:~/typo$ ls db/migrate/
1_add_extended_html.rb    4_add_sidebars.rb     7_add_permalink.rb
2_add_user_email.rb       5_add_cache_table.rb  8_add_page_title.rb
3_add_article_user_id.rb  6_add_pages.rb        9_add_article_guid.rb

...in a pre-upgrade state.  When running typo install /my/typo I ended
up with a bunch of 001_, 002_ migrate scripts.  Deleting the 1_, 2_
etc scripts allowed the migration to complete successfully.

-- 
Rodger Donaldson		rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz
""Intelligent design?" You've got to be kidding, right?!  Who the hell
would put an amusement park in a waste-water treatment plant?!"
	-- ed scarbrough, on the "Intelligent Designer" religion.

From eamonford at mac.com  Sun May 13 21:20:57 2007
From: eamonford at mac.com (Eamon Ford)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 18:20:57 -0700
Subject: [typo] Problems upgrading to Typo 4.1.1
In-Reply-To: <F23A729F-79D7-44B5-866D-37906427A60F@7el.net>
References: <63B18817-C9A8-47CC-8231-4A0BDB8FEB41@mac.com>
	<m1wszgxv0k.fsf@Obelisk.local>
	<3f1760705110147n7c7c44cdu917ee1a57b093c96@mail.gmail.com>
	<D455ED43-E6A1-4E86-897E-66AC20EE3339@mac.com>
	<3f1760705120015o1c591699oa27c998627673be9@mail.gmail.com>
	<823EBC1A-7D3D-49F8-B87C-8AA55B7EF019@mac.com>
	<F23A729F-79D7-44B5-866D-37906427A60F@7el.net>
Message-ID: <B0B06A58-E7A7-4C49-88FC-A8F6F0ACA9D2@mac.com>

OK, I found my problem. For some reason, when I install 4.1.1 using  
the gem and it automatically migrates the database, the migration is  
all wrong. So if I first backup my old database, install 4.1.1 (which  
will automatically try to migrate the database), restore the old  
database, and then migrate it myself using rake db:migrate,  
everything seems to work fine.


On May 12, 2007, at 10:21 PM, Frederic de Villamil wrote:

> Le 12 mai 07 ? 23:10, Eamon Ford a ?crit :
>
>> OK. I'm really new to Rails, so I have just a little more than no
>> idea what the test/dev/production environments are about. I'll try
>> creating a new database for test.
>>
>>
>> On May 12, 2007, at 12:15 AM, Dick Davies wrote:
>>
>>> That's a really bad idea.
>>>
>>> On 11/05/07, Eamon Ford <eamonford at mac.com> wrote:
>>>> Yeah; I connected the production, dev, and test all to the same
>>>> database.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 11, 2007, at 1:47 AM, Dick Davies wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are you defnitely connecting to the production database (not devel
>>>>> or test)?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Eamon Ford <eamonford at mac.com> writes:
>>>
>>>>>>> Also, it
>>>>>>> shows all my old posts, but when I look in the database (with a
>>>>>>> MySQL
>>>>>>> frontend), there are a bunch sample posts. Weird.
>>>
>
> test database is for tests and wiped everytime rake test is ran and
> filled with test data
> development databsae is for... developpment
> production test is for production
>
> Rails application really should have at least 2 (test + dev / prod)
> databases
> --
> Fr?d?ric de Villamil
> frederic at de-villamil.com                        tel: +33 (0)6 62 19  
> 1337
> http://fredericdevillamil.com		     Typo : http://typosphere.org
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
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From eamonford at mac.com  Mon May 14 02:40:14 2007
From: eamonford at mac.com (Eamon Ford)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 23:40:14 -0700
Subject: [typo] Typo 4.1.1 Slowness
Message-ID: <4C5BDACB-87DA-4B64-9345-5A3B4CC3BA41@mac.com>

Hi all,
I just upgraded to Typo 4.1.1, and everything seems great, except  
that it's taking 15-20 seconds to load each page (unless I already  
loaded that page within that last few minutes). I'm using Typo's  
default mongrel server (through "typo start /typo/directory").
Does anyone know what could be causing this?

Thanks.

From benr at x-cr.com  Mon May 14 13:50:46 2007
From: benr at x-cr.com (Ben Reubenstein)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 11:50:46 -0600
Subject: [typo] Typo 4.1.1 Slowness
In-Reply-To: <4C5BDACB-87DA-4B64-9345-5A3B4CC3BA41@mac.com>
References: <4C5BDACB-87DA-4B64-9345-5A3B4CC3BA41@mac.com>
Message-ID: <44c79a160705141050n7a9eaffeg400736f3756127a7@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Eamon ~

What environment are you running in?  If you are running in
development mode, controllers, models, and more are reloaded each time
you pull a page.  Be sure you are running in production mode to remove
that overhead.

~ Ben

On 5/14/07, Eamon Ford <eamonford at mac.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just upgraded to Typo 4.1.1, and everything seems great, except
> that it's taking 15-20 seconds to load each page (unless I already
> loaded that page within that last few minutes). I'm using Typo's
> default mongrel server (through "typo start /typo/directory").
> Does anyone know what could be causing this?
>
> Thanks.
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>


-- 
Ben Reubenstein
303-947-0446
http://www.benr75.com

From eamonford at mac.com  Mon May 14 15:58:37 2007
From: eamonford at mac.com (Eamon Ford)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 12:58:37 -0700
Subject: [typo] Typo 4.1.1 Slowness
In-Reply-To: <44c79a160705141050n7a9eaffeg400736f3756127a7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C5BDACB-87DA-4B64-9345-5A3B4CC3BA41@mac.com>
	<44c79a160705141050n7a9eaffeg400736f3756127a7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7D6A182F-31B2-4FD4-9F43-CAB042206D77@mac.com>

Hmm, I ran RAILS_ENV=production to be sure I'm in production mode,  
but that didn't seem to help... Any other things I can try?


On May 14, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Ben Reubenstein wrote:

> Hi Eamon ~
>
> What environment are you running in?  If you are running in
> development mode, controllers, models, and more are reloaded each time
> you pull a page.  Be sure you are running in production mode to remove
> that overhead.
>
> ~ Ben
>
> On 5/14/07, Eamon Ford <eamonford at mac.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I just upgraded to Typo 4.1.1, and everything seems great, except
>> that it's taking 15-20 seconds to load each page (unless I already
>> loaded that page within that last few minutes). I'm using Typo's
>> default mongrel server (through "typo start /typo/directory").
>> Does anyone know what could be causing this?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Typo-list mailing list
>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Ben Reubenstein
> 303-947-0446
> http://www.benr75.com
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Tue May 15 01:39:25 2007
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 06:39:25 +0100
Subject: [typo] Typo 4.1.1 Slowness
In-Reply-To: <44c79a160705141050n7a9eaffeg400736f3756127a7@mail.gmail.com>
	(Ben Reubenstein's message of "Mon, 14 May 2007 11:50:46 -0600")
References: <4C5BDACB-87DA-4B64-9345-5A3B4CC3BA41@mac.com>
	<44c79a160705141050n7a9eaffeg400736f3756127a7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <m14pmey7aq.fsf@Obelisk.local>

"Ben Reubenstein" <benr at x-cr.com> writes:

> Hi Eamon ~
>
> What environment are you running in?  If you are running in
> development mode, controllers, models, and more are reloaded each time
> you pull a page.  Be sure you are running in production mode to remove
> that overhead.

I'm seriously considering ditching the 'reload classes' aspect of
Typo's development mode; I'm starting to get suspicious of Rails'
class reloading, especially given the way our textfilter and sidebar
subsystems work.

Another thing to look at as a possible issue with the slowdown is,
what sidebars are you using?

-- 
Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
http://www.bofh.org.uk/

From eamonford at mac.com  Tue May 15 03:53:49 2007
From: eamonford at mac.com (Eamon Ford)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 00:53:49 -0700
Subject: [typo] Typo 4.1.1 Slowness
In-Reply-To: <m14pmey7aq.fsf@Obelisk.local>
References: <4C5BDACB-87DA-4B64-9345-5A3B4CC3BA41@mac.com>
	<44c79a160705141050n7a9eaffeg400736f3756127a7@mail.gmail.com>
	<m14pmey7aq.fsf@Obelisk.local>
Message-ID: <28AC2DE4-C2AF-4F29-9E16-DFC6B6A5C003@mac.com>

Aha, that's the problem: the Flickr sidebar seems to be slowing Typo  
down. I hadn't been using it in 4.0.3 because it wasn't working, but  
when 4.1.1 came around I activated the Flickr sidebar, and that's  
when I started having performance issues. So when I deactivate the  
Flickr sidebar, Typo is back up to speed.

Thank you!


On May 14, 2007, at 10:39 PM, Piers Cawley wrote:

> "Ben Reubenstein" <benr at x-cr.com> writes:
>
>> Hi Eamon ~
>>
>> What environment are you running in?  If you are running in
>> development mode, controllers, models, and more are reloaded each  
>> time
>> you pull a page.  Be sure you are running in production mode to  
>> remove
>> that overhead.
>
> I'm seriously considering ditching the 'reload classes' aspect of
> Typo's development mode; I'm starting to get suspicious of Rails'
> class reloading, especially given the way our textfilter and sidebar
> subsystems work.
>
> Another thing to look at as a possible issue with the slowdown is,
> what sidebars are you using?
>
> -- 
> Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
> http://www.bofh.org.uk/
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From neuro at 7el.net  Tue May 15 04:08:16 2007
From: neuro at 7el.net (Frederic de Villamil)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 10:08:16 +0200
Subject: [typo] Typo 4.1.1 Slowness
In-Reply-To: <28AC2DE4-C2AF-4F29-9E16-DFC6B6A5C003@mac.com>
References: <4C5BDACB-87DA-4B64-9345-5A3B4CC3BA41@mac.com>
	<44c79a160705141050n7a9eaffeg400736f3756127a7@mail.gmail.com>
	<m14pmey7aq.fsf@Obelisk.local>
	<28AC2DE4-C2AF-4F29-9E16-DFC6B6A5C003@mac.com>
Message-ID: <A1DB24B0-E15B-460A-8225-CC315DB5640C@7el.net>

We have an issue with flickr plugin as it uses the flickr RSS and not  
the flickr API.
Plus flickr has became quite slow lately.


Le 15 mai 07 ? 09:53, Eamon Ford a ?crit :

> Aha, that's the problem: the Flickr sidebar seems to be slowing Typo
> down. I hadn't been using it in 4.0.3 because it wasn't working, but
> when 4.1.1 came around I activated the Flickr sidebar, and that's
> when I started having performance issues. So when I deactivate the
> Flickr sidebar, Typo is back up to speed.
>
> Thank you!
>
>
> On May 14, 2007, at 10:39 PM, Piers Cawley wrote:
>
>> "Ben Reubenstein" <benr at x-cr.com> writes:
>>
>>> Hi Eamon ~
>>>
>>> What environment are you running in?  If you are running in
>>> development mode, controllers, models, and more are reloaded each
>>> time
>>> you pull a page.  Be sure you are running in production mode to
>>> remove
>>> that overhead.
>>
>> I'm seriously considering ditching the 'reload classes' aspect of
>> Typo's development mode; I'm starting to get suspicious of Rails'
>> class reloading, especially given the way our textfilter and sidebar
>> subsystems work.
>>
>> Another thing to look at as a possible issue with the slowdown is,
>> what sidebars are you using?
>>
>> -- 
>> Piers Cawley <pdcawley at bofh.org.uk>
>> http://www.bofh.org.uk/
>> _______________________________________________
>> Typo-list mailing list
>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list

--
Fr?d?ric de Villamil
frederic at de-villamil.com                        tel: +33 (0)6 62 19 1337
http://fredericdevillamil.com		     Typo : http://typosphere.org





From rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz  Tue May 15 05:49:13 2007
From: rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz (Rodger Donaldson)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:49:13 +1200
Subject: [typo] url-prefix frustration
Message-ID: <20070515094913.GA7764@diaspora.gen.nz>


So, as part of my quest to upgrade from 2.6 to 4.1 I've created an
installation with the invocation:

typo install /home/rodgerd/typo-4.1.1 threads=4 port-number=4040 url-prefix=/~rodgerd bind-address=127.0.0.1 database=postgres

So, if I go to http://localhost:4040/ I get a 404, as one would
expect; if I visit http://localhost:4040/~rodgerd/ I get my blog page.

Here's the problem: the links are screwed up.  Clicking on an article
title or the "read more" link shows the link has been generated
without the url-prefix; likewise the sidebar categories.  The
archives, on the other hand, are correct and take me to the list of
articles for that month.

Is this a config problem, or are chunks of 4.1.1 code base broken?

-- 
Rodger Donaldson		rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz

From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Tue May 15 05:57:26 2007
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 10:57:26 +0100
Subject: [typo] url-prefix frustration
In-Reply-To: <20070515094913.GA7764@diaspora.gen.nz>
References: <20070515094913.GA7764@diaspora.gen.nz>
Message-ID: <897e96cc0705150257o5f4ca169tc007c6551f7216b6@mail.gmail.com>

On 15/05/07, Rodger Donaldson <rodgerd at diaspora.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> So, as part of my quest to upgrade from 2.6 to 4.1 I've created an
> installation with the invocation:
>
> typo install /home/rodgerd/typo-4.1.1 threads=4 port-number=4040 url-prefix=/~rodgerd bind-address=127.0.0.1 database=postgres
>
> So, if I go to http://localhost:4040/ I get a 404, as one would
> expect; if I visit http://localhost:4040/~rodgerd/ I get my blog page.
>
> Here's the problem: the links are screwed up.  Clicking on an article
> title or the "read more" link shows the link has been generated
> without the url-prefix; likewise the sidebar categories.  The
> archives, on the other hand, are correct and take me to the list of
> articles for that month.
>
> Is this a config problem, or are chunks of 4.1.1 code base broken?

I have the horrible feeling it might be the latter, but I don't have
time to look right now. I'll take a gander when I get home from work.

From alxx at indigenious.ro  Tue May 15 06:02:19 2007
From: alxx at indigenious.ro (Alex Deva)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:02:19 +0300
Subject: [typo] cache mechanism in production mode
Message-ID: <CDA13BB9-8115-49D0-AA7B-CED0A15F29CD@indigenious.ro>

I'm not very sure how the caching works with Typo, but it certainly  
doesn't work the same if in production or development mode.

In development, everything works as expected; however, in production  
mode, pages in cache don't expire when they should. I changed the  
default template to show login/logout links, and the name of  
whoever's logged in at the moment, and unless I clear the cache  
manually, it shows the user as logged in even after he logs out, and  
viceversa. Again, this only happens in production mode. If I disable  
caching, things work fine.

Any insights?


From alxx at indigenious.ro  Tue May 15 06:06:09 2007
From: alxx at indigenious.ro (Alex Deva)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:06:09 +0300
Subject: [typo] jabber notifications
Message-ID: <C9AD3A69-3FD2-4FE7-A118-1436D8299A6B@indigenious.ro>

First problem: it didn't work at all until I manually installed  
xmpp4r. Shouldn't this come with the installation?

Second problem: in the Comment model (app/models/comment.rb), in the  
'notify_user_via_jabber' method, there's a reference to  
'controller.url_for'. Rails doesn't know who "controller" is. I  
removed the reference, and now Jabber notifications work (although  
without including the link to the article in question).

Anyone know the correct way of finding the url for an article from  
within the Comment (or any other) model?

From neuro at 7el.net  Tue May 15 07:20:50 2007
From: neuro at 7el.net (Frederic de Villamil)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:20:50 +0200
Subject: [typo] jabber notifications
In-Reply-To: <C9AD3A69-3FD2-4FE7-A118-1436D8299A6B@indigenious.ro>
References: <C9AD3A69-3FD2-4FE7-A118-1436D8299A6B@indigenious.ro>
Message-ID: <8265C551-1BE8-4FB8-A063-2F2326B87B9F@7el.net>

Hi Alex

> First problem: it didn't work at all until I manually installed
> xmpp4r. Shouldn't this come with the installation?

Yes, it should, I'll add it to gem dependencies tonight

> Second problem: in the Comment model (app/models/comment.rb), in the
> 'notify_user_via_jabber' method, there's a reference to
> 'controller.url_for'. Rails doesn't know who "controller" is. I
> removed the reference, and now Jabber notifications work (although
> without including the link to the article in question).
>
> Anyone know the correct way of finding the url for an article from
> within the Comment (or any other) model?

I'm aware of the notification being brocken. Will fix this tonight too.

Can you open a ticket for both of this issues please ?

Cheers,
Frederic


--
Fr?d?ric de Villamil
frederic at de-villamil.com                        tel: +33 (0)6 62 19 1337
http://fredericdevillamil.com		     Typo : http://typosphere.org





From neuro at 7el.net  Tue May 15 07:23:25 2007
From: neuro at 7el.net (Frederic de Villamil)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:23:25 +0200
Subject: [typo] cache mechanism in production mode
In-Reply-To: <CDA13BB9-8115-49D0-AA7B-CED0A15F29CD@indigenious.ro>
References: <CDA13BB9-8115-49D0-AA7B-CED0A15F29CD@indigenious.ro>
Message-ID: <08E2C7E1-0F82-4335-BF9E-B85788A6EF23@7el.net>

Le 15 mai 07 ? 12:02, Alex Deva a ?crit :

> I'm not very sure how the caching works with Typo, but it certainly
> doesn't work the same if in production or development mode.
>
> In development, everything works as expected; however, in production
> mode, pages in cache don't expire when they should. I changed the
> default template to show login/logout links, and the name of
> whoever's logged in at the moment, and unless I clear the cache
> manually, it shows the user as logged in even after he logs out, and
> viceversa. Again, this only happens in production mode. If I disable
> caching, things work fine.
>
> Any insights?

2 points :
? there's no cache in dev mode.
? caching is caching and it won't clear when you change your  
template, but only when you change the database, which is a tandard  
behaviour. Do not consider Typo as a website but as a web  
application, which means a different behaviour regarding things like  
page generation or... caching.

Cheers,
Fr?d?ric

--
Fr?d?ric de Villamil
frederic at de-villamil.com                        tel: +33 (0)6 62 19 1337
http://fredericdevillamil.com		     Typo : http://typosphere.org





From alxx at indigenious.ro  Tue May 15 07:30:23 2007
From: alxx at indigenious.ro (Alex Deva)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:30:23 +0300
Subject: [typo] cache mechanism in production mode
In-Reply-To: <08E2C7E1-0F82-4335-BF9E-B85788A6EF23@7el.net>
References: <CDA13BB9-8115-49D0-AA7B-CED0A15F29CD@indigenious.ro>
	<08E2C7E1-0F82-4335-BF9E-B85788A6EF23@7el.net>
Message-ID: <1FA4CAEF-E43B-4633-AE71-0C087D990A73@indigenious.ro>


On May 15, 2007, at 2:23 PM, Frederic de Villamil wrote:

> Le 15 mai 07 ? 12:02, Alex Deva a ?crit :
>
>> I'm not very sure how the caching works with Typo, but it certainly
>> doesn't work the same if in production or development mode.
>>
>> In development, everything works as expected; however, in production
>> mode, pages in cache don't expire when they should. I changed the
>> default template to show login/logout links, and the name of
>> whoever's logged in at the moment, and unless I clear the cache
>> manually, it shows the user as logged in even after he logs out, and
>> viceversa. Again, this only happens in production mode. If I disable
>> caching, things work fine.
>>
>> Any insights?
>
> 2 points :
> ? there's no cache in dev mode.

That, I didn't know.

> ? caching is caching and it won't clear when you change your
> template, but only when you change the database, which is a tandard
> behaviour. Do not consider Typo as a website but as a web
> application, which means a different behaviour regarding things like
> page generation or... caching.

I didn't mean to say that. I meant to say that I had made the  
template to show session[:user], in order to test the caching. After  
I did that, I noticed that regardless of the actual value in session 
[:user], the same page was rendered. Indeed, session[:user] isn't  
stored by Rails in the database, but in memory (afaik), but still it  
doesn't seem right.

For Typo to consider that things like the session object do not  
change between renderings -- and therefore trigger a cache flush --  
actually makes it look more like a website (where everything is  
considered as static, so it's ok to cache rendered pages)...


From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Tue May 15 09:27:38 2007
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:27:38 +0100
Subject: [typo] cache mechanism in production mode
In-Reply-To: <CDA13BB9-8115-49D0-AA7B-CED0A15F29CD@indigenious.ro>
References: <CDA13BB9-8115-49D0-AA7B-CED0A15F29CD@indigenious.ro>
Message-ID: <897e96cc0705150627x6bda4c33jf21b524ba9ac75b6@mail.gmail.com>

On 15/05/07, Alex Deva <alxx at indigenious.ro> wrote:
> I'm not very sure how the caching works with Typo, but it certainly
> doesn't work the same if in production or development mode.
>
> In development, everything works as expected; however, in production
> mode, pages in cache don't expire when they should. I changed the
> default template to show login/logout links, and the name of
> whoever's logged in at the moment, and unless I clear the cache
> manually, it shows the user as logged in even after he logs out, and
> viceversa. Again, this only happens in production mode. If I disable
> caching, things work fine.
>
> Any insights?

Yes. The pages got generated and pushed into the cache while you were
logged in. When you log out, you continue to look at pages that are in
the cache. You'll need to tweak things to populate the login/logout
and whoever's logged stuff via AJAX requests if you want it to
continue working.

From alxx at indigenious.ro  Tue May 15 09:30:17 2007
From: alxx at indigenious.ro (Alex Deva)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 16:30:17 +0300
Subject: [typo] cache mechanism in production mode
In-Reply-To: <897e96cc0705150627x6bda4c33jf21b524ba9ac75b6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CDA13BB9-8115-49D0-AA7B-CED0A15F29CD@indigenious.ro>
	<897e96cc0705150627x6bda4c33jf21b524ba9ac75b6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F3E62E4B-0416-4426-9D8B-0EB8E1C5FE96@indigenious.ro>

Thank you. This question may be silly, but what if I wrote a sidebar  
plugin for it? Would that still be cached?


On May 15, 2007, at 4:27 PM, Piers Cawley wrote:

> On 15/05/07, Alex Deva <alxx at indigenious.ro> wrote:
>> I'm not very sure how the caching works with Typo, but it certainly
>> doesn't work the same if in production or development mode.
>>
>> In development, everything works as expected; however, in production
>> mode, pages in cache don't expire when they should. I changed the
>> default template to show login/logout links, and the name of
>> whoever's logged in at the moment, and unless I clear the cache
>> manually, it shows the user as logged in even after he logs out, and
>> viceversa. Again, this only happens in production mode. If I disable
>> caching, things work fine.
>>
>> Any insights?
>
> Yes. The pages got generated and pushed into the cache while you were
> logged in. When you log out, you continue to look at pages that are in
> the cache. You'll need to tweak things to populate the login/logout
> and whoever's logged stuff via AJAX requests if you want it to
> continue working.
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Tue May 15 10:20:58 2007
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 15:20:58 +0100
Subject: [typo] cache mechanism in production mode
In-Reply-To: <F3E62E4B-0416-4426-9D8B-0EB8E1C5FE96@indigenious.ro>
References: <CDA13BB9-8115-49D0-AA7B-CED0A15F29CD@indigenious.ro>
	<897e96cc0705150627x6bda4c33jf21b524ba9ac75b6@mail.gmail.com>
	<F3E62E4B-0416-4426-9D8B-0EB8E1C5FE96@indigenious.ro>
Message-ID: <897e96cc0705150720r6ca3f21amc63f31f62c8abb28@mail.gmail.com>

On 15/05/07, Alex Deva <alxx at indigenious.ro> wrote:
> Thank you. This question may be silly, but what if I wrote a sidebar
> plugin for it? Would that still be cached?

Yup. Unless it did an AJAXy type request.

From cpatti at gmail.com  Wed May 16 12:54:59 2007
From: cpatti at gmail.com (Chris Patti)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 12:54:59 -0400
Subject: [typo] Has anyone ever written a LiveJournal crosspost plugin?
Message-ID: <7b528f860705160954p686f2113i64790fc8bd72b5b2@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all;

I was wondering if anyone had written or even started something like
this.  I really want this feature, and if nobody else has implemented
it I'll start digging and figure out how to make this happen.

Thanks
-Chris

-- 
 Chris Patti --- Y!: feoh -- AIM: chrisfeohpatti --- E-Mail:  cpatti at gmail.com
"The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of
  zeal,well-meaning but without understanding."-- Justice Louis O. Brandeis
 (Olmstead vs. United States)

From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Thu May 17 02:50:39 2007
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 07:50:39 +0100
Subject: [typo] Has anyone ever written a LiveJournal crosspost plugin?
In-Reply-To: <7b528f860705160954p686f2113i64790fc8bd72b5b2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7b528f860705160954p686f2113i64790fc8bd72b5b2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <897e96cc0705162350q73fe016dt83fdd95407dc901d@mail.gmail.com>

On 16/05/07, Chris Patti <cpatti at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all;
>
> I was wondering if anyone had written or even started something like
> this.  I really want this feature, and if nobody else has implemented
> it I'll start digging and figure out how to make this happen.

Nothing written, no. Well, nothing I've seen anyway.

From malvim at gmail.com  Sun May 20 06:38:23 2007
From: malvim at gmail.com (Marcelo Alvim)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 03:38:23 -0700
Subject: [typo] Newbie installation question
Message-ID: <97a867330705200338h5a86103k47fae322e15cedf@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I want to try and install the latest Typo from the subversion
repository, in order to test it a little bit. I want to run it on my
windows machine, which already has Ruby (1.8.5) and Rails (1.2.3).

Also, I would not like to install Mongrel and SQLite just for testing
purposes, so I'd like to run it on WEBrick and my MySQL installation.

I checked out Typo from the trunk, configured database.yml, ran he
migrations. Now I can run WEBrick, log in as admin, but I am not being
able to see the blog. Everytime I go to the root, it redirects me to
/admin, even if I am not logged in as the admin user.

Also, I'm sorry to post this here, but I couldn't find directions to
installing Typo like that.

Thank you for your help,
Marcelo Alvim.

From eamonford at mac.com  Sun May 20 14:08:52 2007
From: eamonford at mac.com (Eamon Ford)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 11:08:52 -0700
Subject: [typo] Newbie installation question
In-Reply-To: <97a867330705200338h5a86103k47fae322e15cedf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <97a867330705200338h5a86103k47fae322e15cedf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FA349748-89FA-4BE3-B933-865F6DB72B74@mac.com>

When you go to the admin page for the first time, it will make you  
click "Save Settings" or whatever before you can actually view the  
blog. So, adjust the settings if you want, save them, and then try to  
view the blog.


On May 20, 2007, at 3:38 AM, Marcelo Alvim wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I want to try and install the latest Typo from the subversion
> repository, in order to test it a little bit. I want to run it on my
> windows machine, which already has Ruby (1.8.5) and Rails (1.2.3).
>
> Also, I would not like to install Mongrel and SQLite just for testing
> purposes, so I'd like to run it on WEBrick and my MySQL installation.
>
> I checked out Typo from the trunk, configured database.yml, ran he
> migrations. Now I can run WEBrick, log in as admin, but I am not being
> able to see the blog. Everytime I go to the root, it redirects me to
> /admin, even if I am not logged in as the admin user.
>
> Also, I'm sorry to post this here, but I couldn't find directions to
> installing Typo like that.
>
> Thank you for your help,
> Marcelo Alvim.
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From kevwil at gmail.com  Tue May 22 23:57:36 2007
From: kevwil at gmail.com (Kevin Williams)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 21:57:36 -0600
Subject: [typo] [PATCH] fix error in MT API
Message-ID: <683a886f0705222057v34c56d51o28daf67ea4ab6e81@mail.gmail.com>

I tried to track down an error I keep getting when I try to post to my
blog from a web service client. I made a patch of my fix, but  I have
no idea how to unit test it.

-- 
Cheers,

Kevin Williams
http://www.almostserio.us/

"If you don't think carefully, you might think that programming is
just typing statements in a programming language." - Ward Cunningham
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
Magic." - Arthur C. Clarke
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From eamonford at mac.com  Wed May 23 22:51:39 2007
From: eamonford at mac.com (Eamon Ford)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 19:51:39 -0700
Subject: [typo] How to I set Typo's Blog URL to be relative?
Message-ID: <2A916991-3BB9-439F-8903-EBE32BADC708@mac.com>

Hi all,
I'm running Typo 4.1.1 on my own server, but because of my modem  
(Actiontec is really bad), I have to access my blog using the private  
IP address of the server if I'm behind the modem, and my public IP  
address from anywhere else. Normally this wouldn't be so much of a  
problem, except for this fact: when I set the "Blog URL" on the Typo  
admin page to be the private IP, nobody who isn't behind my modem can  
access the links. But if I set it to be my external IP, I can't  
access the links from behind my modem.
So my question is, can I set the Blog URL to a relative url, and if  
so, how?

Thanks in advance.

From alxx at indigenious.ro  Thu May 24 02:59:52 2007
From: alxx at indigenious.ro (Alex Deva)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:59:52 +0300
Subject: [typo] How to I set Typo's Blog URL to be relative?
In-Reply-To: <2A916991-3BB9-439F-8903-EBE32BADC708@mac.com>
References: <2A916991-3BB9-439F-8903-EBE32BADC708@mac.com>
Message-ID: <594788DD-7896-4FF4-A3A9-E118A424BCD5@indigenious.ro>

Hi Eamon,

A workaround -- which works if your public IP also has a hostname --  
is to use that hostname instead of the public IP, when not from home;  
then, in your /etc/hosts file (or wherever Windows keeps the  
equivalent file these days) you add an entry like this:

127.0.0.1	insert-public-hostname-here

What this does is: it overwrites your machine's default use of DNS  
when looking up that particular hostname, and instead always goes to  
localhost for it.

And then you configure the blog absolute URL:

http://insert-public-hostname-here/

If you don't have a hostname and don't want to buy an entire domain  
for your public IP, ask someone to lend you a subdomain. That's free  
and easy. But normally your ISP should assign you a hostname too,  
with that public IP.

   alxx

On May 24, 2007, at 5:51 AM, Eamon Ford wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm running Typo 4.1.1 on my own server, but because of my modem
> (Actiontec is really bad), I have to access my blog using the private
> IP address of the server if I'm behind the modem, and my public IP
> address from anywhere else. Normally this wouldn't be so much of a
> problem, except for this fact: when I set the "Blog URL" on the Typo
> admin page to be the private IP, nobody who isn't behind my modem can
> access the links. But if I set it to be my external IP, I can't
> access the links from behind my modem.
> So my question is, can I set the Blog URL to a relative url, and if
> so, how?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From sheldonh at clue.co.za  Thu May 24 05:35:04 2007
From: sheldonh at clue.co.za (Sheldon Hearn)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 11:35:04 +0200
Subject: [typo] Multiblog support
Message-ID: <200705241135.09085@axl.clue.co.za>


Hi there,

I have a customer who wants me to install Wordpress so they can offer 
their portal site visitors free blogs.  We've refused, on the grounds 
that we can't offer an acceptable level of security.

Typo's Trac Roadmap suggests that Typo Milestone 4.2 is expected to 
deliver "multi blogs" and "real multi users" support.

Realistically, what's the currently anticipated release date for 4.2?  
I'm trying to decide whether it makes sense to beg the customer to 
wait.

Thanks,
Sheldon.
-- 
Sheldon Hearn
IT Director
Clue Technologies (PTY) Ltd

Web:		http://www.clue.co.za/
Mail:		sheldonh at clue.co.za
Office:		+27-21-913-8840
Mobile:		+27-83-564-3276
Timezone:	SAST (+0200)
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From neuro at 7el.net  Thu May 24 05:53:44 2007
From: neuro at 7el.net (Frederic de Villamil)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 11:53:44 +0200
Subject: [typo] Multiblog support
In-Reply-To: <200705241135.09085@axl.clue.co.za>
References: <200705241135.09085@axl.clue.co.za>
Message-ID: <111B6371-2DFB-4245-957A-C462362EE759@7el.net>

Le 24 mai 07 ? 11:35, Sheldon Hearn a ?crit :

>
> Hi there,
>
> I have a customer who wants me to install Wordpress so they can offer
> their portal site visitors free blogs.  We've refused, on the grounds
> that we can't offer an acceptable level of security.
>
> Typo's Trac Roadmap suggests that Typo Milestone 4.2 is expected to
> deliver "multi blogs" and "real multi users" support.
>
> Realistically, what's the currently anticipated release date for 4.2?
> I'm trying to decide whether it makes sense to beg the customer to
> wait.
>
> Thanks,
> Sheldon.


Hi Sheldon,

Unfortunately, I fear multi blogs will be removed from 4.2 roadmap as  
we decided with Piers last week. Multiple users will be presents with  
some profiles.

Regards,
Frederic

--
Fr?d?ric de Villamil
frederic at de-villamil.com                        tel: +33 (0)6 62 19 1337
http://fredericdevillamil.com		     Typo : http://typosphere.org





From sheldonh at clue.co.za  Thu May 24 06:19:37 2007
From: sheldonh at clue.co.za (Sheldon Hearn)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 12:19:37 +0200
Subject: [typo] Multiblog support
In-Reply-To: <111B6371-2DFB-4245-957A-C462362EE759@7el.net>
References: <200705241135.09085@axl.clue.co.za>
	<111B6371-2DFB-4245-957A-C462362EE759@7el.net>
Message-ID: <200705241219.37439@axl.clue.co.za>

On Thursday 24 May 2007 11:53, Frederic de Villamil wrote:
> Unfortunately, I fear multi blogs will be removed from 4.2 roadmap as
> ? we decided with Piers last week.

Thanks for the rapid response.

I'll keep on looking.

Thanks,
Sheldon.
-- 
Sheldon Hearn
IT Director
Clue Technologies (PTY) Ltd

Web:		http://www.clue.co.za/
Mail:		sheldonh at clue.co.za
Office:		+27-21-913-8840
Mobile:		+27-83-564-3276
Timezone:	SAST (+0200)
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From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Thu May 24 10:04:13 2007
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 15:04:13 +0100
Subject: [typo] Multiblog support (and some pointers to the road ahead)
Message-ID: <897e96cc0705240704v130d90a5w15ab0a88a6feee1a@mail.gmail.com>

On 24/05/07, Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh at clue.co.za> wrote:
> On Thursday 24 May 2007 11:53, Frederic de Villamil wrote:
> > Unfortunately, I fear multi blogs will be removed from 4.2 roadmap as
> > we decided with Piers last week.
>
> Thanks for the rapid response.
>
> I'll keep on looking.

As usual though, patches are welcome, but our immediate goal is to get
a good, robust multi user system with support for OpenID commenting
and the like up and running. I'm also looking closely at the Atom
Publishing Protocol, and a possible rejig of our controller and
routing architecture (Don't worry, /articles/yyyy/mm/dd/title is
sacrosanct... what I expect to be changing is the precise URL and
controller structure of the administrative system, with an eye
bringing us more in line with a restful style.)

Also on the cards is an integration of the client side live content
preview I have running on the comment forms at
http://www.bofh.org.uk/. I've had my eye open for something that could
handle Textile and Markdown with a consistent interface, and I think
I've found it.

What would also be _very_ cool if there's anyone out there with chops
for it, would be version of Azure which continues to _look_ the same
as the old atom, but uses the same kind of microformats as Scribbish.
I have some ideas for the workings of various bits and pieces which
would be make much, much easier if I could rely on a consistent
semantic structure across themes.

From eamonford at mac.com  Thu May 24 10:59:39 2007
From: eamonford at mac.com (Eamon Ford)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 07:59:39 -0700
Subject: [typo] How to I set Typo's Blog URL to be relative?
In-Reply-To: <594788DD-7896-4FF4-A3A9-E118A424BCD5@indigenious.ro>
References: <2A916991-3BB9-439F-8903-EBE32BADC708@mac.com>
	<594788DD-7896-4FF4-A3A9-E118A424BCD5@indigenious.ro>
Message-ID: <9A57E8A4-3FF3-4ED4-B007-302186695A82@mac.com>

Thanks for your response -- but wouldn't that work only if I'm  
accessing the hostname from the server itself? In my case, I don't  
actually use the server for anything except, well, serving. So I need  
to be able to do something like this for all the computers in the  
house. Is this possible?


On May 23, 2007, at 11:59 PM, Alex Deva wrote:

> Hi Eamon,
>
> A workaround -- which works if your public IP also has a hostname --
> is to use that hostname instead of the public IP, when not from home;
> then, in your /etc/hosts file (or wherever Windows keeps the
> equivalent file these days) you add an entry like this:
>
> 127.0.0.1	insert-public-hostname-here
>
> What this does is: it overwrites your machine's default use of DNS
> when looking up that particular hostname, and instead always goes to
> localhost for it.
>
> And then you configure the blog absolute URL:
>
> http://insert-public-hostname-here/
>
> If you don't have a hostname and don't want to buy an entire domain
> for your public IP, ask someone to lend you a subdomain. That's free
> and easy. But normally your ISP should assign you a hostname too,
> with that public IP.
>
>    alxx
>
> On May 24, 2007, at 5:51 AM, Eamon Ford wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm running Typo 4.1.1 on my own server, but because of my modem
>> (Actiontec is really bad), I have to access my blog using the private
>> IP address of the server if I'm behind the modem, and my public IP
>> address from anywhere else. Normally this wouldn't be so much of a
>> problem, except for this fact: when I set the "Blog URL" on the Typo
>> admin page to be the private IP, nobody who isn't behind my modem can
>> access the links. But if I set it to be my external IP, I can't
>> access the links from behind my modem.
>> So my question is, can I set the Blog URL to a relative url, and if
>> so, how?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Typo-list mailing list
>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From alxx at indigenious.ro  Thu May 24 11:09:12 2007
From: alxx at indigenious.ro (Alex Deva)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 18:09:12 +0300
Subject: [typo] How to I set Typo's Blog URL to be relative?
In-Reply-To: <9A57E8A4-3FF3-4ED4-B007-302186695A82@mac.com>
References: <2A916991-3BB9-439F-8903-EBE32BADC708@mac.com>
	<594788DD-7896-4FF4-A3A9-E118A424BCD5@indigenious.ro>
	<9A57E8A4-3FF3-4ED4-B007-302186695A82@mac.com>
Message-ID: <E85FDE71-5B1B-446B-9DCE-AA6D278EE190@indigenious.ro>

This is no longer related to Typo. Anyway: the 'hosts' files which  
need altering are on every machine in your house, and in that case,  
instead of "127.0.0.1" you need to use the server IP which is visible  
from inside your house. Therefore, you'd need to add that line into  
the respective 'hosts' files of all the computers in your LAN.

Alternatively, if you have access to the DNS server that you're using  
(for instance, if your router has this feature), you can set up this  
pseudoroute inside that DNS; then all computers which it serves in  
your house would be redirected to the internal IP when they navigate  
towards 'http://insert-public-hostname-here'

On May 24, 2007, at 5:59 PM, Eamon Ford wrote:

> Thanks for your response -- but wouldn't that work only if I'm
> accessing the hostname from the server itself? In my case, I don't
> actually use the server for anything except, well, serving. So I need
> to be able to do something like this for all the computers in the
> house. Is this possible?
>
>
> On May 23, 2007, at 11:59 PM, Alex Deva wrote:
>
>> Hi Eamon,
>>
>> A workaround -- which works if your public IP also has a hostname --
>> is to use that hostname instead of the public IP, when not from home;
>> then, in your /etc/hosts file (or wherever Windows keeps the
>> equivalent file these days) you add an entry like this:
>>
>> 127.0.0.1	insert-public-hostname-here
>>
>> What this does is: it overwrites your machine's default use of DNS
>> when looking up that particular hostname, and instead always goes to
>> localhost for it.
>>
>> And then you configure the blog absolute URL:
>>
>> http://insert-public-hostname-here/
>>
>> If you don't have a hostname and don't want to buy an entire domain
>> for your public IP, ask someone to lend you a subdomain. That's free
>> and easy. But normally your ISP should assign you a hostname too,
>> with that public IP.
>>
>>    alxx
>>
>> On May 24, 2007, at 5:51 AM, Eamon Ford wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm running Typo 4.1.1 on my own server, but because of my modem
>>> (Actiontec is really bad), I have to access my blog using the  
>>> private
>>> IP address of the server if I'm behind the modem, and my public IP
>>> address from anywhere else. Normally this wouldn't be so much of a
>>> problem, except for this fact: when I set the "Blog URL" on the Typo
>>> admin page to be the private IP, nobody who isn't behind my modem  
>>> can
>>> access the links. But if I set it to be my external IP, I can't
>>> access the links from behind my modem.
>>> So my question is, can I set the Blog URL to a relative url, and if
>>> so, how?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Typo-list mailing list
>>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Typo-list mailing list
>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From eamonford at mac.com  Thu May 24 11:19:04 2007
From: eamonford at mac.com (Eamon Ford)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 08:19:04 -0700
Subject: [typo] How to I set Typo's Blog URL to be relative?
In-Reply-To: <E85FDE71-5B1B-446B-9DCE-AA6D278EE190@indigenious.ro>
References: <2A916991-3BB9-439F-8903-EBE32BADC708@mac.com>
	<594788DD-7896-4FF4-A3A9-E118A424BCD5@indigenious.ro>
	<9A57E8A4-3FF3-4ED4-B007-302186695A82@mac.com>
	<E85FDE71-5B1B-446B-9DCE-AA6D278EE190@indigenious.ro>
Message-ID: <834B3E1A-8F7C-4258-A8A8-C2F09289DFDA@mac.com>


On May 24, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Alex Deva wrote:

> This is no longer related to Typo.

Yeah, sorry for getting off-topic.

> Anyway: the 'hosts' files which
> need altering are on every machine in your house, and in that case,
> instead of "127.0.0.1" you need to use the server IP which is visible
> from inside your house. Therefore, you'd need to add that line into
> the respective 'hosts' files of all the computers in your LAN.
>
> Alternatively, if you have access to the DNS server that you're using
> (for instance, if your router has this feature), you can set up this
> pseudoroute inside that DNS; then all computers which it serves in
> your house would be redirected to the internal IP when they navigate
> towards 'http://insert-public-hostname-here'
>
Actually, the reason I have to go to all this trouble is because my  
router doesn't support that... I might just need to get a better router.

But back on the topic of Typo, it's weird, because up until a few  
days ago, it seemed that Typo was using relative urls, even though  
the Blog URL was set to the server's internal IP address. Then  
suddenly none of the links were working from outside my house,  
because it was linking to the server's internal IP.

Anyway, thanks for your help.


> On May 24, 2007, at 5:59 PM, Eamon Ford wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your response -- but wouldn't that work only if I'm
>> accessing the hostname from the server itself? In my case, I don't
>> actually use the server for anything except, well, serving. So I need
>> to be able to do something like this for all the computers in the
>> house. Is this possible?
>>
>>
>> On May 23, 2007, at 11:59 PM, Alex Deva wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eamon,
>>>
>>> A workaround -- which works if your public IP also has a hostname --
>>> is to use that hostname instead of the public IP, when not from  
>>> home;
>>> then, in your /etc/hosts file (or wherever Windows keeps the
>>> equivalent file these days) you add an entry like this:
>>>
>>> 127.0.0.1	insert-public-hostname-here
>>>
>>> What this does is: it overwrites your machine's default use of DNS
>>> when looking up that particular hostname, and instead always goes to
>>> localhost for it.
>>>
>>> And then you configure the blog absolute URL:
>>>
>>> http://insert-public-hostname-here/
>>>
>>> If you don't have a hostname and don't want to buy an entire domain
>>> for your public IP, ask someone to lend you a subdomain. That's free
>>> and easy. But normally your ISP should assign you a hostname too,
>>> with that public IP.
>>>
>>>    alxx
>>>
>>> On May 24, 2007, at 5:51 AM, Eamon Ford wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I'm running Typo 4.1.1 on my own server, but because of my modem
>>>> (Actiontec is really bad), I have to access my blog using the
>>>> private
>>>> IP address of the server if I'm behind the modem, and my public IP
>>>> address from anywhere else. Normally this wouldn't be so much of a
>>>> problem, except for this fact: when I set the "Blog URL" on the  
>>>> Typo
>>>> admin page to be the private IP, nobody who isn't behind my modem
>>>> can
>>>> access the links. But if I set it to be my external IP, I can't
>>>> access the links from behind my modem.
>>>> So my question is, can I set the Blog URL to a relative url, and if
>>>> so, how?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Typo-list mailing list
>>>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Typo-list mailing list
>>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Typo-list mailing list
>> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list


From PCAPACIO at amfam.com  Fri May 25 15:33:16 2007
From: PCAPACIO at amfam.com (Capacio, Paula J)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 14:33:16 -0500
Subject: [typo] Return to initial admin setup
Message-ID: <567481FBB4F42147B567F9F4C68E61A921E273@NHQ1ACCOEX06VS1.corporate.amfam.com>

Hello, I'm VERY new to Ruby, Rails, MySQL and Typo. In other words,
please be kind; I have no idea WTH I'm doing. ;-) I did try searching
this mail list for answers before posting, though so I am trying!  
I installed InstantRails which came bundled with Typo 2.6.0.  I followed
the instructions from InstantRails and edited the
C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts file to include a virtual host of
127.0.0.1 typo so that it could be launched using HTTP://typo and the
first time admin dialogue began.  I did this a few days ago and now when
I try to access the app it asks for a login/password.  I have no idea
what I set that to.  Is there a way to figure out what I set that to? If
not, since I have no posts as of yet, what is the easiest way to return
to the initial state?
Thanks in advance, 
Paula 

From PCAPACIO at amfam.com  Fri May 25 15:54:12 2007
From: PCAPACIO at amfam.com (Capacio, Paula J)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 14:54:12 -0500
Subject: [typo] Return to initial admin setup
In-Reply-To: <567481FBB4F42147B567F9F4C68E61A921E273@NHQ1ACCOEX06VS1.corporate.amfam.com>
Message-ID: <567481FBB4F42147B567F9F4C68E61A921E274@NHQ1ACCOEX06VS1.corporate.amfam.com>

Kindly ignore this plea for assistance.  
I found the information in
C:\InstantRails\rails_apps\typo-2.6.0\log\production.log

-----Original Message-----
From: Capacio, Paula J 
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 2:33 PM
To: 'typo-list at rubyforge.org'
Subject: Return to initial admin setup

[snip]... when I try to access the app it asks for a login/password.  I
have no idea what I set that to.  Is there a way to figure out what I
set that to? 

From neuro at 7el.net  Fri May 25 16:07:56 2007
From: neuro at 7el.net (Frederic de Villamil)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 22:07:56 +0200
Subject: [typo] Return to initial admin setup
In-Reply-To: <567481FBB4F42147B567F9F4C68E61A921E274@NHQ1ACCOEX06VS1.corporate.amfam.com>
References: <567481FBB4F42147B567F9F4C68E61A921E274@NHQ1ACCOEX06VS1.corporate.amfam.com>
Message-ID: <A0EEC41A-1E6F-4909-9B94-0360BF410D6C@7el.net>

Le 25 mai 07 ? 21:54, Capacio, Paula J a ?crit :

> Kindly ignore this plea for assistance.
> I found the information in
> C:\InstantRails\rails_apps\typo-2.6.0\log\production.log
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Capacio, Paula J
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 2:33 PM
> To: 'typo-list at rubyforge.org'
> Subject: Return to initial admin setup
>
> [snip]... when I try to access the app it asks for a login/ 
> password.  I
> have no idea what I set that to.  Is there a way to figure out what I
> set that to?


For your information, 2.6.0 is a bit outdated... last release is 4.1.1
Cheers
Frederic

--
Fr?d?ric de Villamil
frederic at de-villamil.com                        tel: +33 (0)6 62 19 1337
http://fredericdevillamil.com		     Typo : http://typosphere.org





From nfiedler at bluemarsh.com  Fri May 25 18:20:26 2007
From: nfiedler at bluemarsh.com (nfiedler at bluemarsh.com)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:20:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [typo] how to reset the base_url value?
Message-ID: <8280.192.18.43.225.1180131626.squirrel@www.bluemarsh.com>

Hello all,

I recently set up Typo 4.1.1 and made the mistake of accessing it via one
of the mongrel instances at "localhost:8000", so now Typo seems to think
that this is the default base URL for about half of the links. That is,
after posting a few articles, when I view my blog, some of the links are
to "localhost:8000" and some of them are for "www.bluemarsh.com"
(permalink and tags links are "localhost:8000", but archives and syndicate
links are okay).

BTW, I found the 'blogs' table and changed the 'base_url' value, then
restarted everything, and cleared the cache several times, but still the
same links are wrong.

So how do I change all of the occurrences of "localhost:8000" to reference
the proper domain name?

Thanks

n



From neuro at 7el.net  Sat May 26 01:50:37 2007
From: neuro at 7el.net (Frederic de Villamil)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 07:50:37 +0200
Subject: [typo] how to reset the base_url value?
In-Reply-To: <8280.192.18.43.225.1180131626.squirrel@www.bluemarsh.com>
References: <8280.192.18.43.225.1180131626.squirrel@www.bluemarsh.com>
Message-ID: <ED93A7C5-92E5-4F03-962B-351DED6102E6@7el.net>

Le 26 mai 07 ? 00:20, nfiedler at bluemarsh.com a ?crit :

> Hello all,
>
> I recently set up Typo 4.1.1 and made the mistake of accessing it  
> via one
> of the mongrel instances at "localhost:8000", so now Typo seems to  
> think
> that this is the default base URL for about half of the links. That  
> is,
> after posting a few articles, when I view my blog, some of the  
> links are
> to "localhost:8000" and some of them are for "www.bluemarsh.com"
> (permalink and tags links are "localhost:8000", but archives and  
> syndicate
> links are okay).
>
> BTW, I found the 'blogs' table and changed the 'base_url' value, then
> restarted everything, and cleared the cache several times, but  
> still the
> same links are wrong.
>
> So how do I change all of the occurrences of "localhost:8000" to  
> reference
> the proper domain name?
>
> Thanks
>
> n

Log in the admin panel, and change it to what you wnat, save your  
settings and here you are.

Fr?d?ric

--
Fr?d?ric de Villamil
frederic at de-villamil.com                        tel: +33 (0)6 62 19 1337
http://fredericdevillamil.com		     Typo : http://typosphere.org





From nfiedler at bluemarsh.com  Sat May 26 01:58:47 2007
From: nfiedler at bluemarsh.com (Nathan Fiedler)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 22:58:47 -0700
Subject: [typo] how to reset the base_url value?
In-Reply-To: <ED93A7C5-92E5-4F03-962B-351DED6102E6@7el.net>
References: <8280.192.18.43.225.1180131626.squirrel@www.bluemarsh.com>
	<ED93A7C5-92E5-4F03-962B-351DED6102E6@7el.net>
Message-ID: <4657CC97.3010801@bluemarsh.com>

Yes, like I said, I already set the 'base_url' value in the 'blogs' 
table. Still, the permalink and tags links are coming from some where else.

Where else is the URL base value stored?

n


Frederic de Villamil wrote:
> Log in the admin panel, and change it to what you wnat, save your  
> settings and here you are.


From nfiedler at bluemarsh.com  Sat May 26 03:19:03 2007
From: nfiedler at bluemarsh.com (Nathan Fiedler)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 00:19:03 -0700
Subject: [typo] how to reset the base_url value?
In-Reply-To: <4657CC97.3010801@bluemarsh.com>
References: <8280.192.18.43.225.1180131626.squirrel@www.bluemarsh.com>	<ED93A7C5-92E5-4F03-962B-351DED6102E6@7el.net>
	<4657CC97.3010801@bluemarsh.com>
Message-ID: <4657DF67.7040903@bluemarsh.com>

Despite using both "typo sweep_cache /path/to/blog" and the rake 
"sweep_cache" task, some files were left behind in tmp/cache that 
included the old localhost:8000 value. Deleting the files manually fixed 
the issue.

This seems like a bug to me.

n

From pdcawley at bofh.org.uk  Sat May 26 08:08:12 2007
From: pdcawley at bofh.org.uk (Piers Cawley)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 13:08:12 +0100
Subject: [typo] how to reset the base_url value?
In-Reply-To: <4657DF67.7040903@bluemarsh.com>
References: <8280.192.18.43.225.1180131626.squirrel@www.bluemarsh.com>
	<ED93A7C5-92E5-4F03-962B-351DED6102E6@7el.net>
	<4657CC97.3010801@bluemarsh.com> <4657DF67.7040903@bluemarsh.com>
Message-ID: <897e96cc0705260508h65c95383v4bb0c677f23618ba@mail.gmail.com>

On 26/05/07, Nathan Fiedler <nfiedler at bluemarsh.com> wrote:
> Despite using both "typo sweep_cache /path/to/blog" and the rake
> "sweep_cache" task, some files were left behind in tmp/cache that
> included the old localhost:8000 value. Deleting the files manually fixed
> the issue.
>
> This seems like a bug to me.

It does rather.

Probably a bit late now, but did the sweep cache option from the admin
page work?

I believe that typo sweep_cache /path/to/blog just calls the rake task,
so it sounds like that's not doing the right thing.

From Matijs.van.Zuijlen at xs4all.nl  Sat May 26 09:01:57 2007
From: Matijs.van.Zuijlen at xs4all.nl (Matijs van Zuijlen)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 15:01:57 +0200
Subject: [typo] Can't check out whole typo subversion tree
Message-ID: <20070526130157.GA24898@matijs.net>

Hi,

I'm mirroring the typo subversion tree for use with svk, but since the move
to http://svn.typosphere.org/typo/ that doesn't work anymore (I only found
out recently because I had been stuck with pre-1.2 rails.). Doing a simple
checkout gives this:

  > svn co http://svn.typosphere.org/typo
  svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/typo'
  svn: PROPFIND of '/typo': 301 Moved Permanently (http://svn.typosphere.org)

Personally, I consider it a bug that svn cannot handle a simple 301, but
'they' think the repository owner should change this:

  http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html#301-error

So could this be fixed, please?

As an added incentive, I think I accidentally got multiblog support
working, but I can't test it with the latest typo now.

-- 
Matijs van Zuijlen					http://www.matijs.net/
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From neuro at 7el.net  Sat May 26 09:24:45 2007
From: neuro at 7el.net (Frederic de Villamil)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 15:24:45 +0200
Subject: [typo] Can't check out whole typo subversion tree
In-Reply-To: <20070526130157.GA24898@matijs.net>
References: <20070526130157.GA24898@matijs.net>
Message-ID: <B3B7DF07-8C05-4332-AF1F-9F2980A8E336@7el.net>

The answer is http://svn.typosphere.org/typo/trunk

Cheers,
Frederic

Le 26 mai 07 ? 15:01, Matijs van Zuijlen a ?crit :

> Hi,
>
> I'm mirroring the typo subversion tree for use with svk, but since  
> the move
> to http://svn.typosphere.org/typo/ that doesn't work anymore (I  
> only found
> out recently because I had been stuck with pre-1.2 rails.). Doing a  
> simple
> checkout gives this:
>
>> svn co http://svn.typosphere.org/typo
>   svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/typo'
>   svn: PROPFIND of '/typo': 301 Moved Permanently (http:// 
> svn.typosphere.org)
>
> Personally, I consider it a bug that svn cannot handle a simple  
> 301, but
> 'they' think the repository owner should change this:
>
>   http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html#301-error
>
> So could this be fixed, please?
>
> As an added incentive, I think I accidentally got multiblog support
> working, but I can't test it with the latest typo now.
>
> -- 
> Matijs van Zuijlen					http://www.matijs.net/
> _______________________________________________
> Typo-list mailing list
> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list

--
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frederic at de-villamil.com                        tel: +33 (0)6 62 19 1337
http://fredericdevillamil.com		     Typo : http://typosphere.org





From nfiedler at bluemarsh.com  Sat May 26 11:31:09 2007
From: nfiedler at bluemarsh.com (Nathan Fiedler)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 08:31:09 -0700
Subject: [typo] how to reset the base_url value?
In-Reply-To: <897e96cc0705260508h65c95383v4bb0c677f23618ba@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8280.192.18.43.225.1180131626.squirrel@www.bluemarsh.com>	<ED93A7C5-92E5-4F03-962B-351DED6102E6@7el.net>	<4657CC97.3010801@bluemarsh.com>
	<4657DF67.7040903@bluemarsh.com>
	<897e96cc0705260508h65c95383v4bb0c677f23618ba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <465852BD.1040405@bluemarsh.com>

Yes, I did hit the button on the admin page, too.

I believe to reproduce this:

1. Set up a Typo instance, start (using Mongrel).
2. Access using the "localhost:8000" address and configure for use.
3. Create a blog entry.
4. Realize the problem, change the base_url value.
5. Restart, try clearing the cache, etc. -> links still use old value.
6. Manually remove the files in tmp/cache -> links now use new value.

Thanks

n


Piers Cawley wrote:
> It does rather.
> 
> Probably a bit late now, but did the sweep cache option from the admin
> page work?
> 
> I believe that typo sweep_cache /path/to/blog just calls the rake task,
> so it sounds like that's not doing the right thing.

From nfiedler at bluemarsh.com  Sat May 26 16:10:24 2007
From: nfiedler at bluemarsh.com (Nathan Fiedler)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 13:10:24 -0700
Subject: [typo] how to reset the base_url value?
In-Reply-To: <465852BD.1040405@bluemarsh.com>
References: <8280.192.18.43.225.1180131626.squirrel@www.bluemarsh.com>	<ED93A7C5-92E5-4F03-962B-351DED6102E6@7el.net>	<4657CC97.3010801@bluemarsh.com>	<4657DF67.7040903@bluemarsh.com>	<897e96cc0705260508h65c95383v4bb0c677f23618ba@mail.gmail.com>
	<465852BD.1040405@bluemarsh.com>
Message-ID: <46589430.7080101@bluemarsh.com>

I may be wrong about the admin page "clear cache" link. I just changed 
the base URL in the admin screen, saved the settings, then cleared the 
cache, and after reloading the blog view, the links were fine. Maybe 
then it is just the rake task that wasn't working?

Sorry if this is not helpful, I just wanted to clear that issue.

Thanks for Typo, it's terrific.

n


Nathan Fiedler wrote:
> Yes, I did hit the button on the admin page, too.
> 
> I believe to reproduce this:
> 
> 1. Set up a Typo instance, start (using Mongrel).
> 2. Access using the "localhost:8000" address and configure for use.
> 3. Create a blog entry.
> 4. Realize the problem, change the base_url value.
> 5. Restart, try clearing the cache, etc. -> links still use old value.
> 6. Manually remove the files in tmp/cache -> links now use new value.


From hipertracker at gmail.com  Sun May 27 09:35:28 2007
From: hipertracker at gmail.com (Jaroslaw Zabiello)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 14:35:28 +0100
Subject: [typo] One article with many i18n versions
Message-ID: <facb6e2d0705270635r1cabcbder8a6371b9f3e566b4@mail.gmail.com>

I would like to create one article with its many international
versions. It means in Typo it would be only one entry with a switching
button to different language version. And by default it could display
version based on browser settings.

Do you plan to add such feature? I know no blog which can do it...

-- 
Jaroslaw Zabiello
http://blog.zabiello.com

From nikanorov at gmail.com  Wed May 30 11:05:26 2007
From: nikanorov at gmail.com (Andrey Nikanorov)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 19:05:26 +0400
Subject: [typo] Current code location?
In-Reply-To: <43DBBD6B-4DCD-4D39-8FC7-944E1AD099E9@sb.org>
References: <AB58AA89-DC42-43A7-B93F-09E7B80504BB@lunenburg.org>
	<B7A5D78F-0133-4489-83E3-1D768070CB85@bettong.net>
	<43DBBD6B-4DCD-4D39-8FC7-944E1AD099E9@sb.org>
Message-ID: <a0c35bf80705300805x3edb837bu2a472af9bbdb76f@mail.gmail.com>

I dosen't work. I see this error:

svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/typo'
svn: PROPFIND of '/typo': 301 Moved Permanently (http://svn.typosphere.org)


On 1/24/07, Kevin Ballard <kevin at sb.org> wrote:
>
> Oh yes, I guess I should have announced it on this list. Typosphere has
> returned, on a different host. The subversion repository has moved. Urban
> Hafner provided the appropriate command, but be sure to input that as a
> single line.
>
> On Jan 23, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Urban Hafner wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 23, 2007, at 20:22 , H. Wade Minter wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm using Repository Root: svn://typosphere.org/typo, but getting
>
> "svn: Can't connect to host 'typosphere.org': Connection refused"
>
> when attempting to update the code.
>
>
>
>
> Do a svn switch:
>
>
>
>
> svn switch --relocate svn://typosphere.org/typo/trunk http://
>
> svn.typosphere.org/typo/trunk
>
>
>
>
> and it should be fine again.
>
> --
> Kevin Ballard
> http://kevin.sb.org
> kevin at sb.org
> http://www.tildesoft.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Typo-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
>
>


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From cpatti at gmail.com  Wed May 30 12:48:55 2007
From: cpatti at gmail.com (Chris Patti)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 12:48:55 -0400
Subject: [typo] LiveJournal Crossposter written - a gross hack,
	and some questions.
Message-ID: <7b528f860705300948k762a676w3e7058e4ff0c7ff4@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all;

I needed a working cog in far less time than it will take for me to
understand the intricacies of RAILS plugins and how they interact with
Typo.  So, for now, here is the solution I implemented.  It uses the
command line LJ posting client 'Clive' -
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ljclive/ to do the actual cross
posting.  Eventually I'll re-implement it to use one of the fully
forged Ruby LiveJournal posting APIs.

Here are the diffs to models/article.rb:
---
[feoh at mail]/blog/blind_not_dumb/app/models% diff article.rb.1 article.rb
247a248
>   after_create :lj_crosspost
269a271,285
>   def lj_crosspost
>     if (self.body =~ /lj-crosspost: yes/i)
>       logger.debug('article: lj_crosspost: Crossposting at ' + Time.now.to_s);
>       ljpost = BlueCloth.new(self.body).to_html();
>       ljpost.gsub!(/<.?p>/,"");
>       logger.debug('ljpost is: ' + ljpost);
>       ljpost_path="/tmp/lj_crosspost_#{$$}";
>       ljpost_file = File.open(ljpost_path,"w") do |ljc|
>         ljc.puts(ljpost);
>       end
>       logger.debug("about to run command: " + "cat #{ljpost_path}|/usr/local/bin/clive -u myljuser -w myljpassword -s \"#{self.title}\"");
>       logger.debug('output of ljpost command is: ' + `cat #{ljpost_path}|/usr/local/bin/clive -u feoh -w d1rtylaundry -s "#{self.title}"`);
>     end
>   end
>
---

A few questions:

* Is there some better place than the article model for me to be
grafting in this kind of cross posting
post processing?
* Where should I start looking if I want to implement this as a plugin?

Thanks for any clues.
-Chris

-- 
 Chris Patti --- Y!: feoh -- AIM: chrisfeohpatti --- E-Mail:  cpatti at gmail.com
"The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of
  zeal,well-meaning but without understanding."-- Justice Louis O. Brandeis
 (Olmstead vs. United States)

From cpatti at gmail.com  Wed May 30 16:15:46 2007
From: cpatti at gmail.com (Chris Patti)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 16:15:46 -0400
Subject: [typo] Specifying an article's category at post time in the headers?
Message-ID: <7b528f860705301315t4b4b0a75r9d6114a36075af3f@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all;

Sorry to bother the list but I can't find anything on this online or
in the mailing list archives.

What I want is to be able to specify an article's category from an
external client, like the Blogging bundle in TextMate.

I tried using:

Category: Personal

but typo implodes when I do that:

ActiveRecord::HasManyThroughCantAssociateNewRecords (Cannot associate
new records through 'Article#categorizations' on '#'. Both records
must have an id in order to create the has_many :through record
associating them.):
    /vendor/rails/activerecord/lib/active_record/associations/has_many_through_association.rb:52:in
`<<'
    /app/apis/meta_weblog_service.rb:104:in `newPost'
    /app/apis/meta_weblog_service.rb:103:in `each'
    /app/apis/meta_weblog_service.rb:103:in `newPost'
    /vendor/rails/actionwebservice/lib/action_web_service/invocation.rb:141:in
`send'
    /vendor/rails/actionwebservice/lib/action_web_service/invocation.rb:141:in
`perform_invocation_without_interception'
    /vendor/rails/actionwebservice/lib/action_web_service/invocation.rb:135:in
`perform_invocation'
    /vendor/rails/actionwebservice/lib/action_web_service/dispatcher/abstract.rb:42:in
`web_service_filtered_invoke'
    /vendor/rails/actionwebservice/lib/action_web_service/dispatcher/abstract.rb:37:in
`web_service_delegated_invoke'
    /vendor/rails/actionwebservice/lib/action_web_service/dispatcher/abstract.rb:56:in
`web_service_invoke'
    /vendor/rails/actionwebservice/lib/action_web_service/dispatcher/abstract.rb:21:in
`invoke_web_service_request'
    /vendor/rails/actionwebservice/lib/action_web_service/dispatcher/action_controller_dispatcher.rb:55:in
`dispatch_web_service_request'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/benchmark.rb:293:in `measure'
    /vendor/rails/actionwebservice/lib/action_web_service/dispatcher/action_controller_dispatcher.rb:53:in
`dispatch_web_service_request'
    (eval):1:in `xmlrpc'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/base.rb:1095:in `send'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/base.rb:1095:in
`perform_action_without_filters'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:632:in
`call_filter'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:638:in
`call_filter'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:600:in `call'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:600:in
`proxy_before_and_after_filter'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:470:in `call'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:470:in `call'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:637:in
`call_filter'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:638:in
`call_filter'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:438:in `call'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:637:in
`call_filter'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:638:in
`call_filter'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:438:in `call'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:637:in
`call_filter'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:638:in
`call_filter'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:438:in `call'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:637:in
`call_filter'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:638:in
`call_filter'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:449:in `call'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:637:in
`call_filter'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:619:in
`perform_action_without_benchmark'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:66:in
`perform_action_without_rescue'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/benchmark.rb:293:in `measure'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:66:in
`perform_action_without_rescue'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/rescue.rb:83:in
`perform_action'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/base.rb:430:in `send'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/base.rb:430:in
`process_without_filters'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:624:in
`process_without_session_management_support'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/session_management.rb:114:in
`process'
    /vendor/rails/actionpack/lib/action_controller/base.rb:330:in `process'
    /vendor/rails/railties/lib/dispatcher.rb:41:in `dispatch'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/lib/mongrel/rails.rb:84:in
`process'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/sync.rb:229:in `synchronize'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/lib/mongrel/rails.rb:83:in
`process'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/lib/mongrel.rb:580:in
`process_client'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/lib/mongrel.rb:579:in
`each'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/lib/mongrel.rb:579:in
`process_client'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/lib/mongrel.rb:686:in
`run'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/lib/mongrel.rb:686:in
`initialize'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/lib/mongrel.rb:686:in
`new'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/lib/mongrel.rb:686:in
`run'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/lib/mongrel.rb:673:in
`initialize'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/lib/mongrel.rb:673:in
`new'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/lib/mongrel.rb:673:in
`run'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/lib/mongrel/configurator.rb:267:in
`run'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/lib/mongrel/configurator.rb:266:in
`each'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/lib/mongrel/configurator.rb:266:in
`run'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/bin/mongrel_rails:127:in
`run'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/lib/mongrel/command.rb:211:in
`run'
    /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/mongrel-0.3.13.4/bin/mongrel_rails:231
    /usr/local/bin/mongrel_rails:18:in `load'
    /usr/local/bin/mongrel_rails:18

--

So, I'm confused and wondering which header to use.  Maybe once I
figure out what all these headers do, I could write some basic
documentation to go out with the system.  Hell even a README would be
a boon to the clueless like myself.

thanks,
-Chris

-- 
 Chris Patti --- Y!: feoh -- AIM: chrisfeohpatti --- E-Mail:  cpatti at gmail.com
"The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of
  zeal,well-meaning but without understanding."-- Justice Louis O. Brandeis
 (Olmstead vs. United States)

From cyril.mougel at gmail.com  Thu May 31 13:12:53 2007
From: cyril.mougel at gmail.com (Cyril Mougel)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 19:12:53 +0200
Subject: [typo] Failed with typo install
Message-ID: <ac23b0bb0705311012m5834f2a5p7f17d18d2ac5b16b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Today, I test the typo gem and typo install command.

But a issue is out. In rails-app-installer, the task of migrate is
allways with rake migrate. But in Rails 1.2.3, the rake task is now
rake db:migrate.

I reported this issue in google code of rails-app-installer [1]. And I
want report it for typo. But in trac we can't create a new ticket. So
I report it here.

regards

[1] : http://code.google.com/p/rails-app-installer/issues/detail?id=5&can=2&q=

-- 
Cyril Mougel