From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 11:15:32 2007 From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:15:32 +0200 Subject: [Wtr-development] Pop Ups and Watir (was: Recommended version of Ruby) Message-ID: On 7/11/07, Paul Rogers wrote: > > this doc may help. Its what I started a few days ago to help understand > the different types of windows/dialogs and how to access them > Finally. http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Pop+Ups+and+Watir ?eljko -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/wtr-development/attachments/20071001/fb19b1c9/attachment.html From jeff.fry at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 11:34:03 2007 From: jeff.fry at gmail.com (Jeff Fry) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:34:03 -0700 Subject: [Wtr-development] Pop Ups and Watir (was: Recommended version of Ruby) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <470264EB.9050000@gmail.com> ?eljko Filipin wrote: > On 7/11/07, *Paul Rogers* > wrote: > > this doc may help. Its what I started a few days ago to help > understand the different types of windows/dialogs and how to > access them > > > Finally. > > http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Pop+Ups+and+Watir > > ?eljko This is great to have on the wiki. Thanks Paul and Zeljko! Jeff From bret at pettichord.com Mon Oct 15 13:18:46 2007 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:18:46 -0500 Subject: [Wtr-development] Ruby version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The problem with Ruby 1.8.6 is that it will return the wrong exit code when tests fail. This can effects any scenario where Watir tests will be executed by another program or script. I provided some details for why Ruby 1.8.6 should not be used here: http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog/archives/2007_04.html#000249 This issue also leads cruisecontrol.rb to not recommend 1.8.6: http://cruisecontrolrb.thoughtworks.com/documentation/getting_started (This actually is a good model for how to phrase this issue for our doc.) Bret On 10/15/07, Charley Baker wrote: > > You should change it to 1.8.5. The latest version has a particular problem > correctly reporting return code status which causes problems when running > under continuous integration. > > -Charley > > On 10/15/07, ?eljko Filipin wrote: > > > > Bret, > > > > I see that at http://wtr.rubyforge.org/install.html you have recommended > > Ruby 1.8.5.* because Ruby 1.8.6 has problems. I did not know that. At > > http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Install+Ruby I suggested that the > > most recent version of Ruby should be installed, 1.8.6-25. Should I > > change that to 1.8.5-24? > > > > ?eljko > > > > -- Bret Pettichord Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org Blog, http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/wtr-development/attachments/20071015/a670b645/attachment.html From bret at pettichord.com Mon Oct 15 16:03:34 2007 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:03:34 -0500 Subject: [Wtr-development] readme.rb In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Zeljko, I think there are two important principles here. 1. Don't Repeat Yourself. This is what you are noticing and why you are suggesting we eliminate this info from the readme. 2. Bundle Docs with the Software. This allows people to get accurate information for the version they are using, rather than rely on a single website, which typically will only cover the latest version. I'm not sure exactly how to balance these two forces out. In the case of the support forum, that information is not about the software per se and therefore is better off not bundled with the software. I'm less sure about the Ruby version. Clearly information such as whether new versions of Ruby will work with old versions of Watir will need to be on the website (we aren't going to republish old gems to incorporate information like this). One of the the things i've been wanting to do for a while is make our Rdoc more organized and esp. to make the first page contain a more helpful overview of Watir. This is a common practice for Ruby gems and some users will look here first. Bret On 10/15/07, ?eljko Filipin wrote: > > I am looking at readme.rb and some information is out of date (recommended > Ruby version, location of support forum...). I was about to update it, but > maybe the better approach would be just to point to pages at web site and > wiki that already have that information. What do you think? > > ?eljko > -- Bret Pettichord Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org Blog, http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(For now.) http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Tutorial Bret, Charlie, As we discussed earlier off list, I fixed "old users guide" link at documentation.page to point to http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Tutorial(instead of http://wtr.rubyforge.org/watir_user_guide.html). I also fixed "search on Google" link at examples.page to point to http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Example+Test+Case (instead of http://wtr.rubyforge.org/example_testcase.html). Please update the web site when you have the time, or give zeljkofilipin rubyforge account privileges to do so, and I will do it. ?eljko -- ZeljkoFilipin.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/wtr-development/attachments/20071016/97819cb5/attachment.html From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 09:04:44 2007 From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:04:44 +0200 Subject: [Wtr-development] readme.rb In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10/15/07, Bret Pettichord wrote: > > 1. Don't Repeat Yourself. Go DRY, GO! One of the the things i've been wanting to do for a while is make our Rdoc > more organized and esp. to make the first page contain a more helpful > overview of Watir. This is a common practice for Ruby gems and some users > will look here first. > Makes sense. I updated readme.rb for now. I just copied Install Ruby and Install Watir sections from install.html and updated link to watir-general. One more thing. When you visit rdoc page ( http://wtr.rubyforge.org/rdoc/index.html), classes/Watir/IE.html is opened in bottom frame, not files/readme_rb.html. It should be that way? ?eljko -- ZeljkoFilipin.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/wtr-development/attachments/20071016/31ff6f19/attachment.html From bret at pettichord.com Tue Oct 16 12:54:22 2007 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:54:22 -0500 Subject: [Wtr-development] readme.rb In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10/16/07, ?eljko Filipin wrote: > > One more thing. When you visit rdoc page ( > http://wtr.rubyforge.org/rdoc/index.html), classes/Watir/IE.html is opened > in bottom frame, not files/readme_rb.html. It should be that way? Yes. However, rdoc material from the readme might need to be migrated to Watir::IE. Bret -- Bret Pettichord Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org Blog, http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/wtr-development/attachments/20071016/f540e19f/attachment.html From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 05:11:08 2007 From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:11:08 +0200 Subject: [Wtr-development] Tutorial In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I created jira ticked for this http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-184 ?eljko -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/wtr-development/attachments/20071026/cb47d2f2/attachment.html From bret at pettichord.com Fri Oct 26 10:57:35 2007 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:57:35 -0500 Subject: [Wtr-development] Tutorial In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry, about dropping the ball on this. I've had a cold for nearly two weeks and plan to catch up on this this weekend. Bret On 10/26/07, ?eljko Filipin wrote: > > I created jira ticked for this http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-184 > > ?eljko > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > -- Bret Pettichord Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org Blog, http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/wtr-development/attachments/20071026/21b950d4/attachment-0001.html From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 13:59:25 2007 From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:59:25 +0200 Subject: [Wtr-development] Tutorial In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10/26/07, Bret Pettichord wrote: > > Sorry, about dropping the ball on this. I've had a cold for nearly two > weeks and plan to catch up on this this weekend. No problem, take you time. Get well. :) ?eljko -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/wtr-development/attachments/20071026/1dd2a09b/attachment.html From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 11:15:32 2007 From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:15:32 +0200 Subject: [Wtr-development] Pop Ups and Watir (was: Recommended version of Ruby) Message-ID: On 7/11/07, Paul Rogers wrote: > > this doc may help. Its what I started a few days ago to help understand > the different types of windows/dialogs and how to access them > Finally. http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Pop+Ups+and+Watir ?eljko -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeff.fry at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 11:34:03 2007 From: jeff.fry at gmail.com (Jeff Fry) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:34:03 -0700 Subject: [Wtr-development] Pop Ups and Watir (was: Recommended version of Ruby) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <470264EB.9050000@gmail.com> ?eljko Filipin wrote: > On 7/11/07, *Paul Rogers* > wrote: > > this doc may help. Its what I started a few days ago to help > understand the different types of windows/dialogs and how to > access them > > > Finally. > > http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Pop+Ups+and+Watir > > ?eljko This is great to have on the wiki. Thanks Paul and Zeljko! Jeff From bret at pettichord.com Mon Oct 15 13:18:46 2007 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:18:46 -0500 Subject: [Wtr-development] Ruby version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The problem with Ruby 1.8.6 is that it will return the wrong exit code when tests fail. This can effects any scenario where Watir tests will be executed by another program or script. I provided some details for why Ruby 1.8.6 should not be used here: http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog/archives/2007_04.html#000249 This issue also leads cruisecontrol.rb to not recommend 1.8.6: http://cruisecontrolrb.thoughtworks.com/documentation/getting_started (This actually is a good model for how to phrase this issue for our doc.) Bret On 10/15/07, Charley Baker wrote: > > You should change it to 1.8.5. The latest version has a particular problem > correctly reporting return code status which causes problems when running > under continuous integration. > > -Charley > > On 10/15/07, ?eljko Filipin wrote: > > > > Bret, > > > > I see that at http://wtr.rubyforge.org/install.html you have recommended > > Ruby 1.8.5.* because Ruby 1.8.6 has problems. I did not know that. At > > http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Install+Ruby I suggested that the > > most recent version of Ruby should be installed, 1.8.6-25. Should I > > change that to 1.8.5-24? > > > > ?eljko > > > > -- Bret Pettichord Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org Blog, http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bret at pettichord.com Mon Oct 15 16:03:34 2007 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:03:34 -0500 Subject: [Wtr-development] readme.rb In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Zeljko, I think there are two important principles here. 1. Don't Repeat Yourself. This is what you are noticing and why you are suggesting we eliminate this info from the readme. 2. Bundle Docs with the Software. This allows people to get accurate information for the version they are using, rather than rely on a single website, which typically will only cover the latest version. I'm not sure exactly how to balance these two forces out. In the case of the support forum, that information is not about the software per se and therefore is better off not bundled with the software. I'm less sure about the Ruby version. Clearly information such as whether new versions of Ruby will work with old versions of Watir will need to be on the website (we aren't going to republish old gems to incorporate information like this). One of the the things i've been wanting to do for a while is make our Rdoc more organized and esp. to make the first page contain a more helpful overview of Watir. This is a common practice for Ruby gems and some users will look here first. Bret On 10/15/07, ?eljko Filipin wrote: > > I am looking at readme.rb and some information is out of date (recommended > Ruby version, location of support forum...). I was about to update it, but > maybe the better approach would be just to point to pages at web site and > wiki that already have that information. 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(For now.) http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Tutorial Bret, Charlie, As we discussed earlier off list, I fixed "old users guide" link at documentation.page to point to http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Tutorial(instead of http://wtr.rubyforge.org/watir_user_guide.html). I also fixed "search on Google" link at examples.page to point to http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Example+Test+Case (instead of http://wtr.rubyforge.org/example_testcase.html). Please update the web site when you have the time, or give zeljkofilipin rubyforge account privileges to do so, and I will do it. ?eljko -- ZeljkoFilipin.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 09:04:44 2007 From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:04:44 +0200 Subject: [Wtr-development] readme.rb In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10/15/07, Bret Pettichord wrote: > > 1. Don't Repeat Yourself. Go DRY, GO! One of the the things i've been wanting to do for a while is make our Rdoc > more organized and esp. to make the first page contain a more helpful > overview of Watir. This is a common practice for Ruby gems and some users > will look here first. > Makes sense. I updated readme.rb for now. I just copied Install Ruby and Install Watir sections from install.html and updated link to watir-general. One more thing. When you visit rdoc page ( http://wtr.rubyforge.org/rdoc/index.html), classes/Watir/IE.html is opened in bottom frame, not files/readme_rb.html. It should be that way? ?eljko -- ZeljkoFilipin.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bret at pettichord.com Tue Oct 16 12:54:22 2007 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:54:22 -0500 Subject: [Wtr-development] readme.rb In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10/16/07, ?eljko Filipin wrote: > > One more thing. When you visit rdoc page ( > http://wtr.rubyforge.org/rdoc/index.html), classes/Watir/IE.html is opened > in bottom frame, not files/readme_rb.html. It should be that way? Yes. However, rdoc material from the readme might need to be migrated to Watir::IE. Bret -- Bret Pettichord Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org Blog, http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 05:11:08 2007 From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:11:08 +0200 Subject: [Wtr-development] Tutorial In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I created jira ticked for this http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-184 ?eljko -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Its what I started a few days ago to help understand > the different types of windows/dialogs and how to access them > Finally. http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Pop+Ups+and+Watir ?eljko -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeff.fry at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 11:34:03 2007 From: jeff.fry at gmail.com (Jeff Fry) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:34:03 -0700 Subject: [Wtr-development] Pop Ups and Watir (was: Recommended version of Ruby) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <470264EB.9050000@gmail.com> ?eljko Filipin wrote: > On 7/11/07, *Paul Rogers* > wrote: > > this doc may help. Its what I started a few days ago to help > understand the different types of windows/dialogs and how to > access them > > > Finally. > > http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Pop+Ups+and+Watir > > ?eljko This is great to have on the wiki. Thanks Paul and Zeljko! Jeff From bret at pettichord.com Mon Oct 15 13:18:46 2007 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:18:46 -0500 Subject: [Wtr-development] Ruby version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The problem with Ruby 1.8.6 is that it will return the wrong exit code when tests fail. This can effects any scenario where Watir tests will be executed by another program or script. I provided some details for why Ruby 1.8.6 should not be used here: http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog/archives/2007_04.html#000249 This issue also leads cruisecontrol.rb to not recommend 1.8.6: http://cruisecontrolrb.thoughtworks.com/documentation/getting_started (This actually is a good model for how to phrase this issue for our doc.) Bret On 10/15/07, Charley Baker wrote: > > You should change it to 1.8.5. The latest version has a particular problem > correctly reporting return code status which causes problems when running > under continuous integration. > > -Charley > > On 10/15/07, ?eljko Filipin wrote: > > > > Bret, > > > > I see that at http://wtr.rubyforge.org/install.html you have recommended > > Ruby 1.8.5.* because Ruby 1.8.6 has problems. I did not know that. At > > http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Install+Ruby I suggested that the > > most recent version of Ruby should be installed, 1.8.6-25. Should I > > change that to 1.8.5-24? > > > > ?eljko > > > > -- Bret Pettichord Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org Blog, http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bret at pettichord.com Mon Oct 15 16:03:34 2007 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:03:34 -0500 Subject: [Wtr-development] readme.rb In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Zeljko, I think there are two important principles here. 1. Don't Repeat Yourself. This is what you are noticing and why you are suggesting we eliminate this info from the readme. 2. Bundle Docs with the Software. This allows people to get accurate information for the version they are using, rather than rely on a single website, which typically will only cover the latest version. I'm not sure exactly how to balance these two forces out. In the case of the support forum, that information is not about the software per se and therefore is better off not bundled with the software. I'm less sure about the Ruby version. Clearly information such as whether new versions of Ruby will work with old versions of Watir will need to be on the website (we aren't going to republish old gems to incorporate information like this). One of the the things i've been wanting to do for a while is make our Rdoc more organized and esp. to make the first page contain a more helpful overview of Watir. This is a common practice for Ruby gems and some users will look here first. Bret On 10/15/07, ?eljko Filipin wrote: > > I am looking at readme.rb and some information is out of date (recommended > Ruby version, location of support forum...). I was about to update it, but > maybe the better approach would be just to point to pages at web site and > wiki that already have that information. What do you think? > > ?eljko > -- Bret Pettichord Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org Blog, http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 03:36:17 2007 From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:36:17 +0200 Subject: [Wtr-development] Files at watir\trunk\watir\doc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10/16/07, Angrez Singh wrote: > > I think the support for Xpath tutorial is little outdated. I'll have a > look at it, once everything is at proper place. Moving this discussion to wtr-development list, as Bret suggested. Angrez, Actually "Support for XPATH in Watir.doc" is completely moved to http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/XPath+Support. Take a look and update it when you have the time. ?eljko -- ZeljkoFilipin.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From angrez at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 03:37:57 2007 From: angrez at gmail.com (Angrez Singh) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:07:57 +0530 Subject: [Wtr-development] Files at watir\trunk\watir\doc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Okey will do that. - Angrez On 10/16/07, ?eljko Filipin wrote: > > On 10/16/07, Angrez Singh wrote: > > > > I think the support for Xpath tutorial is little outdated. I'll have a > > look at it, once everything is at proper place. > > > Moving this discussion to wtr-development list, as Bret suggested. > > Angrez, > > Actually "Support for XPATH in Watir.doc" is completely moved to > http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/XPath+Support. Take a look and update > it when you have the time. > > ?eljko > -- > ZeljkoFilipin.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 06:14:16 2007 From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:14:16 +0200 Subject: [Wtr-development] Ruby version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Done. http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Install+Ruby Changed link to point to ruby185-24.exe and added note with link to post at Bret's blog for more information. ?eljko -- ZeljkoFilipin.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 08:09:13 2007 From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:09:13 +0200 Subject: [Wtr-development] Tutorial Message-ID: Woo hoo! Done! (For now.) http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Tutorial Bret, Charlie, As we discussed earlier off list, I fixed "old users guide" link at documentation.page to point to http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Tutorial(instead of http://wtr.rubyforge.org/watir_user_guide.html). I also fixed "search on Google" link at examples.page to point to http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Example+Test+Case (instead of http://wtr.rubyforge.org/example_testcase.html). Please update the web site when you have the time, or give zeljkofilipin rubyforge account privileges to do so, and I will do it. ?eljko -- ZeljkoFilipin.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 09:04:44 2007 From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:04:44 +0200 Subject: [Wtr-development] readme.rb In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10/15/07, Bret Pettichord wrote: > > 1. Don't Repeat Yourself. Go DRY, GO! One of the the things i've been wanting to do for a while is make our Rdoc > more organized and esp. to make the first page contain a more helpful > overview of Watir. This is a common practice for Ruby gems and some users > will look here first. > Makes sense. I updated readme.rb for now. I just copied Install Ruby and Install Watir sections from install.html and updated link to watir-general. One more thing. When you visit rdoc page ( http://wtr.rubyforge.org/rdoc/index.html), classes/Watir/IE.html is opened in bottom frame, not files/readme_rb.html. It should be that way? ?eljko -- ZeljkoFilipin.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bret at pettichord.com Tue Oct 16 12:54:22 2007 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:54:22 -0500 Subject: [Wtr-development] readme.rb In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10/16/07, ?eljko Filipin wrote: > > One more thing. When you visit rdoc page ( > http://wtr.rubyforge.org/rdoc/index.html), classes/Watir/IE.html is opened > in bottom frame, not files/readme_rb.html. It should be that way? Yes. However, rdoc material from the readme might need to be migrated to Watir::IE. Bret -- Bret Pettichord Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org Blog, http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 05:11:08 2007 From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:11:08 +0200 Subject: [Wtr-development] Tutorial In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I created jira ticked for this http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-184 ?eljko -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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