From bret at pettichord.com  Fri Aug  1 15:16:53 2008
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:16:53 -0500
Subject: [Wtr-development] WTR-233
In-Reply-To: <ade75c5b0807311308j57cfb824m76b45035370b4da7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ac2300c0807300920v72ca9d87wcda1e61a4acbe88e@mail.gmail.com>
	<ade75c5b0807311308j57cfb824m76b45035370b4da7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ade75c5b0808011216u4a49ea13ic0a20e7b7d5e86c2@mail.gmail.com>

Aidy, this is now assigned to you.

Bret

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>wrote:

> http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-233
>
> Aidy,
>
> I've requested that Patrick (who manages OpenQA) give you commit rights to
> Watir, which is needed before we can assign a ticket to you.
>
> To me this looks like a hard to problem to solve. I'm curious about your
> intentions. Have you been working on this? Do you have a solution?
>
> Bret
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:20 AM, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Could someone assign this task to me in Jira please?
>>
>> Aidy
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Bret Pettichord
> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
> Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog<http://www.io.com/%7Ewazmo/blog>
> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist
>



-- 
Bret Pettichord
CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog
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From bret at pettichord.com  Thu Aug  7 11:12:46 2008
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:12:46 -0500
Subject: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki & pages
Message-ID: <ade75c5b0808070812l7357eb22ye295ac6751e97899@mail.gmail.com>

I just got back from the Agile 2008 conference. I'm working on a longer
report, but first I wanted to share a story.

I've been telling people about FireWatir. A lot of people know about Watir,
but FireWatir is much less well known, and people think that Watir is still
IE only. There are some things I can say and do to get the message out. (I
plan to formally release FireWatir 1.2 shortly).

But I want to take care of a few things before I publicize FireWatir. I
spoke to one person at the conference who recently installed FireWatir and
they complained about about having the install instructions in a Word doc.
As I'm sure you all know, many people interested in open-source are
surprised to see open-source documentation in a proprietary format. Anyway,
a couple of weeks ago I moved this documentation to the confluence wiki to
avoid this problem, but since the old guide is still there and everything
points to it, that is still where people go.

original install guide -
http://firewatir.googlecode.com/files/New%20Installation%20Guide.doc
migrated to confluence -
http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir+Installation+Guide

People have also had problems finding the new XPI's, which are only the new
openqa wiki, but people are still looking for them on googlecode.

Here is the new FireWatir page: http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir

What we need to do is clearly deprecate the googlecode firewatir pages and
redirect people to confluence. I would like the release of FireWatir 1.2 to
mark the migration off of google code the formal unification of the two
projects.

Here is what needs to happen. This is my top priority right now, and I can
turn around on any questions that come up quickly.

- Release Notes for FireWatir 1.2 - Bret (Bret, 2 hrs)
- Review & Finish Migrating pages from GoogleCode to Confluence
- Remove FireWatir 1.2 gem from GoogleCode (this kind of update will give
people the impression that this is still the place to find new releases,
instead we need to point them to the correct site)
- Address any other issues that prevent us from making openqa be the public
face of the FireWatir project
- Post a notice to the FireWatir GoogleCode home page that the project has
moved to OpenQA/Watir. (I don't have rights to do this, so need Angrez to do
this or have him give me rights).
- Upload FireWatir 1.2 to Rubyforge and make available to the gem remote
installer (Bret, 1 hr)
- Announce FireWatir 1.2 (everybody)

Make sense? Who would like to help me with this?

Bret

-- 
Bret Pettichord
CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog
MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist
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From jeff.fry at gmail.com  Fri Aug  8 22:48:18 2008
From: jeff.fry at gmail.com (Jeff Fry)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:48:18 -0700
Subject: [Wtr-development] Running the unit tests
Message-ID: <970956b0808081948l4f8f3b53s38b7fb5337679c2d@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all, I just updated to the latest trunk and ran all_tests and
core_tests. I haven't done this in years, so I don't know what to compare
to, but I got a lot of failures. At least some - maybe all - seem to be
because IE7 is complaining about activeX that watir's trying to run.

I looked in /watir/unittests/README and on the wiki, but couldn't find any
instructions for what settings I need to have in IE7 to get valid unit test
results, so...

Can you point me toward what my IE7 settings should be, in order to get
valid unit test results? And are there any tests in either core_ or
all_tests that we expect to fail on trunk currently?

Thanks,

-- 
Jeff Fry
Member, Association for Software Testing Board of Directors

http://testingjeff.wordpress.com
http://associationforsoftwaretesting.org
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From alan.baird at riskmetrics.com  Mon Aug 11 09:55:46 2008
From: alan.baird at riskmetrics.com (Alan Baird)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:55:46 -0400
Subject: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki &
	pages
In-Reply-To: <ade75c5b0808070812l7357eb22ye295ac6751e97899@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ade75c5b0808070812l7357eb22ye295ac6751e97899@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <296DCA57118A7143824911216017E83B0D82849F@MAIL-NY01.rmg-ny.com>

Bret -

 

I can give you about 3-4 hours a week if you still need it.  Let me know
what still needs to be done.

 

Alan

 

________________________________

From: wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Bret
Pettichord
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:13 AM
To: Watir development
Subject: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki &
pages

 

I just got back from the Agile 2008 conference. I'm working on a longer
report, but first I wanted to share a story.

I've been telling people about FireWatir. A lot of people know about
Watir, but FireWatir is much less well known, and people think that
Watir is still IE only. There are some things I can say and do to get
the message out. (I plan to formally release FireWatir 1.2 shortly).

But I want to take care of a few things before I publicize FireWatir. I
spoke to one person at the conference who recently installed FireWatir
and they complained about about having the install instructions in a
Word doc. As I'm sure you all know, many people interested in
open-source are surprised to see open-source documentation in a
proprietary format. Anyway, a couple of weeks ago I moved this
documentation to the confluence wiki to avoid this problem, but since
the old guide is still there and everything points to it, that is still
where people go.

original install guide -
http://firewatir.googlecode.com/files/New%20Installation%20Guide.doc
migrated to confluence -
http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir+Installation+Guide

People have also had problems finding the new XPI's, which are only the
new openqa wiki, but people are still looking for them on googlecode. 

Here is the new FireWatir page:
http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir

What we need to do is clearly deprecate the googlecode firewatir pages
and redirect people to confluence. I would like the release of FireWatir
1.2 to mark the migration off of google code the formal unification of
the two projects.

Here is what needs to happen. This is my top priority right now, and I
can turn around on any questions that come up quickly.

- Release Notes for FireWatir 1.2 - Bret (Bret, 2 hrs)
- Review & Finish Migrating pages from GoogleCode to Confluence
- Remove FireWatir 1.2 gem from GoogleCode (this kind of update will
give people the impression that this is still the place to find new
releases, instead we need to point them to the correct site)
- Address any other issues that prevent us from making openqa be the
public face of the FireWatir project
- Post a notice to the FireWatir GoogleCode home page that the project
has moved to OpenQA/Watir. (I don't have rights to do this, so need
Angrez to do this or have him give me rights).
- Upload FireWatir 1.2 to Rubyforge and make available to the gem remote
installer (Bret, 1 hr)
- Announce FireWatir 1.2 (everybody)

Make sense? Who would like to help me with this?

Bret

-- 
Bret Pettichord
CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog
MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist 

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From bret at pettichord.com  Mon Aug 11 10:41:42 2008
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:41:42 -0500
Subject: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki &
	pages
In-Reply-To: <296DCA57118A7143824911216017E83B0D82849F@MAIL-NY01.rmg-ny.com>
References: <ade75c5b0808070812l7357eb22ye295ac6751e97899@mail.gmail.com>
	<296DCA57118A7143824911216017E83B0D82849F@MAIL-NY01.rmg-ny.com>
Message-ID: <ade75c5b0808110741o3f2170a6o957eb640f898e05@mail.gmail.com>

That is great. Can you help with migrating the FireWatir wiki pages from
Google Code to Confluence?

Bret

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Alan Baird <alan.baird at riskmetrics.com>wrote:

>  Bret ?
>
>
>
> I can give you about 3-4 hours a week if you still need it.  Let me know
> what still needs to be done.
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:
> wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org] *On Behalf Of *Bret Pettichord
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:13 AM
> *To:* Watir development
> *Subject:* [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki &
> pages
>
>
>
> I just got back from the Agile 2008 conference. I'm working on a longer
> report, but first I wanted to share a story.
>
> I've been telling people about FireWatir. A lot of people know about Watir,
> but FireWatir is much less well known, and people think that Watir is still
> IE only. There are some things I can say and do to get the message out. (I
> plan to formally release FireWatir 1.2 shortly).
>
> But I want to take care of a few things before I publicize FireWatir. I
> spoke to one person at the conference who recently installed FireWatir and
> they complained about about having the install instructions in a Word doc.
> As I'm sure you all know, many people interested in open-source are
> surprised to see open-source documentation in a proprietary format. Anyway,
> a couple of weeks ago I moved this documentation to the confluence wiki to
> avoid this problem, but since the old guide is still there and everything
> points to it, that is still where people go.
>
> original install guide -
> http://firewatir.googlecode.com/files/New%20Installation%20Guide.doc
> migrated to confluence -
> http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir+Installation+Guide
>
> People have also had problems finding the new XPI's, which are only the new
> openqa wiki, but people are still looking for them on googlecode.
>
> Here is the new FireWatir page:
> http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir
>
> What we need to do is clearly deprecate the googlecode firewatir pages and
> redirect people to confluence. I would like the release of FireWatir 1.2 to
> mark the migration off of google code the formal unification of the two
> projects.
>
> Here is what needs to happen. This is my top priority right now, and I can
> turn around on any questions that come up quickly.
>
> - Release Notes for FireWatir 1.2 - Bret (Bret, 2 hrs)
> - Review & Finish Migrating pages from GoogleCode to Confluence
> - Remove FireWatir 1.2 gem from GoogleCode (this kind of update will give
> people the impression that this is still the place to find new releases,
> instead we need to point them to the correct site)
> - Address any other issues that prevent us from making openqa be the public
> face of the FireWatir project
> - Post a notice to the FireWatir GoogleCode home page that the project has
> moved to OpenQA/Watir. (I don't have rights to do this, so need Angrez to do
> this or have him give me rights).
> - Upload FireWatir 1.2 to Rubyforge and make available to the gem remote
> installer (Bret, 1 hr)
> - Announce FireWatir 1.2 (everybody)
>
> Make sense? Who would like to help me with this?
>
> Bret
>
> --
> Bret Pettichord
> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
> Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog<http://www.io.com/%7Ewazmo/blog>
> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>



-- 
Bret Pettichord
CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog
MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist
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From tim.koops at gmail.com  Mon Aug 11 17:45:50 2008
From: tim.koops at gmail.com (Tim Koopmans)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:45:50 +1000
Subject: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki &
	pages
In-Reply-To: <ade75c5b0808110741o3f2170a6o957eb640f898e05@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ade75c5b0808070812l7357eb22ye295ac6751e97899@mail.gmail.com>
	<296DCA57118A7143824911216017E83B0D82849F@MAIL-NY01.rmg-ny.com>
	<ade75c5b0808110741o3f2170a6o957eb640f898e05@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C7AE87E1-616A-47E7-911E-918B64BDEEC4@gmail.com>

I'm ready to announce via my blog!

Sorry can't be more helpful this week as I'm moving interstate with  
work. However in coming weeks I will be able to lend more support and  
pick up the pace with justaddwatir.com (maybe this also needs  
firewatir specific examples now?) Although I expect you aim to cut  
down on differences between watir and firewatir functionality in the  
long run ...

Keep up the good work, I expect you never sleep! =)

Regards,
Tim Koopmans
90kts.com

On 12/08/2008, at 12:41 AM, Bret Pettichord wrote:

> That is great. Can you help with migrating the FireWatir wiki pages  
> from Google Code to Confluence?
>
> Bret
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Alan Baird <alan.baird at riskmetrics.com 
> > wrote:
> Bret ?
>
>
> I can give you about 3-4 hours a week if you still need it.  Let me  
> know what still needs to be done.
>
>
> Alan
>
>
> From: wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org 
> ] On Behalf Of Bret Pettichord
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:13 AM
> To: Watir development
> Subject: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki  
> & pages
>
>
> I just got back from the Agile 2008 conference. I'm working on a  
> longer report, but first I wanted to share a story.
>
> I've been telling people about FireWatir. A lot of people know about  
> Watir, but FireWatir is much less well known, and people think that  
> Watir is still IE only. There are some things I can say and do to  
> get the message out. (I plan to formally release FireWatir 1.2  
> shortly).
>
> But I want to take care of a few things before I publicize  
> FireWatir. I spoke to one person at the conference who recently  
> installed FireWatir and they complained about about having the  
> install instructions in a Word doc. As I'm sure you all know, many  
> people interested in open-source are surprised to see open-source  
> documentation in a proprietary format. Anyway, a couple of weeks ago  
> I moved this documentation to the confluence wiki to avoid this  
> problem, but since the old guide is still there and everything  
> points to it, that is still where people go.
>
> original install guide - http://firewatir.googlecode.com/files/New%20Installation%20Guide.doc
> migrated to confluence - http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir+Installation+Guide
>
> People have also had problems finding the new XPI's, which are only  
> the new openqa wiki, but people are still looking for them on  
> googlecode.
>
> Here is the new FireWatir page: http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir
>
> What we need to do is clearly deprecate the googlecode firewatir  
> pages and redirect people to confluence. I would like the release of  
> FireWatir 1.2 to mark the migration off of google code the formal  
> unification of the two projects.
>
> Here is what needs to happen. This is my top priority right now, and  
> I can turn around on any questions that come up quickly.
>
> - Release Notes for FireWatir 1.2 - Bret (Bret, 2 hrs)
> - Review & Finish Migrating pages from GoogleCode to Confluence
> - Remove FireWatir 1.2 gem from GoogleCode (this kind of update will  
> give people the impression that this is still the place to find new  
> releases, instead we need to point them to the correct site)
> - Address any other issues that prevent us from making openqa be the  
> public face of the FireWatir project
> - Post a notice to the FireWatir GoogleCode home page that the  
> project has moved to OpenQA/Watir. (I don't have rights to do this,  
> so need Angrez to do this or have him give me rights).
> - Upload FireWatir 1.2 to Rubyforge and make available to the gem  
> remote installer (Bret, 1 hr)
> - Announce FireWatir 1.2 (everybody)
>
> Make sense? Who would like to help me with this?
>
> Bret
>
> -- 
> Bret Pettichord
> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
> Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog
> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>
>
>
> -- 
> Bret Pettichord
> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
> Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog
> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development

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From jeff.fry at gmail.com  Mon Aug 11 20:35:25 2008
From: jeff.fry at gmail.com (Jeff Fry)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:35:25 -0700
Subject: [Wtr-development] Running the unit tests
In-Reply-To: <970956b0808081948l4f8f3b53s38b7fb5337679c2d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <970956b0808081948l4f8f3b53s38b7fb5337679c2d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <970956b0808111735k5f641675uc8757d38f3dc9334@mail.gmail.com>

FYI, here's what I get from running core_tests on trunk. Is this expected?
Is this (wholly or partly) due to config requirements that I should meet
before running core_tests?

>ruby core_tests.rb
Loaded suite core_tests
Started
..................FF.....F........F.....F.FF....FF....................................................F...FF.................F.......F..........................F...F...........F.............F.F.................................
Finished in 125.422 seconds.

  1) Failure:
test_click(TC_Button) [./unittests/buttons_test.rb:74]:
<false> is not true.

  2) Failure:
test_default_how(TC_Button) [./unittests/buttons_test.rb:65]:
<false> is not true.

  3) Failure:
test_SuccessMessage(TC_CSS) [./unittests/css_test.rb:48]:
<false> is not true.

  4) Failure:
test_onClick(TC_CheckBox) [./unittests/checkbox_test.rb:45]:
<false> is not true.

  5) Failure:
test_divs(TC_Divs) [./unittests/div_test.rb:20]:
<false> is not true.

  6) Failure:
test_objects_in_div(TC_Divs) [./unittests/div_test.rb:72]:
<"button1"> expected but was
<"">.

  7) Failure:
test_objects_in_span(TC_Divs) [./unittests/div_test.rb:144]:
<"button1"> expected but was
<"">.

  8) Failure:
test_spans(TC_Divs) [./unittests/div_test.rb:92]:
<false> is not true.

  9) Failure:
test_JS_Events(TC_Fields) [./unittests/textfields_test.rb:157]:
<"keypresskeydownkeypresskeyup"> expected but was
<"">.

 10) Failure:
test_hidden(TC_Hidden_Fields) [./unittests/form_test.rb:239]:
<"44"> expected but was
<"">.

 11) Failure:
test_Iframe(TC_IFrames) [./unittests/frame_test.rb:106]:
<false> is not true.

 12) Failure:
test_iframes_id(TC_IFrames) [./unittests/frame_test.rb:114]:
<false> is not true.

 13) Failure:
test_frame(TC_NestedFrames) [./unittests/frame_test.rb:91]:
<false> is not true.

 14) Failure:
test_onClick(TC_Radios) [./unittests/radios_test.rb:51]:
<false> is not true.

 15) Failure:
test_selectBox_select2(TC_Selectbox) [./unittests/selectbox_test.rb:145]:
<false> is not true.

 16) Failure:
test_select_list_select_using_value2(TC_Selectbox)
[./unittests/selectbox_test.rb:177]:
<false> is not true.

 17) Failure:
test_dynamic_tables(TC_Tables) [./unittests/table_test.rb:64]:
<6> expected but was
<5>.

 18) Failure:
test_simple_table_buttons(TC_Tables_Buttons)
[./unittests/table_test.rb:222]:
<false> is not true.

 19) Failure:
test_table_from_element(TC_Tables_Buttons) [./unittests/table_test.rb:292]:
<false> is not true.

226 tests, 1093 assertions, 19 failures, 0 errors


On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Jeff Fry <jeff.fry at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey all, I just updated to the latest trunk and ran all_tests and
> core_tests. I haven't done this in years, so I don't know what to compare
> to, but I got a lot of failures. At least some - maybe all - seem to be
> because IE7 is complaining about activeX that watir's trying to run.
>
> I looked in /watir/unittests/README and on the wiki, but couldn't find any
> instructions for what settings I need to have in IE7 to get valid unit test
> results, so...
>
> Can you point me toward what my IE7 settings should be, in order to get
> valid unit test results? And are there any tests in either core_ or
> all_tests that we expect to fail on trunk currently?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Jeff Fry
> Member, Association for Software Testing Board of Directors
>
> http://testingjeff.wordpress.com
> http://associationforsoftwaretesting.org
>



-- 
Jeff Fry
Member, Association for Software Testing Board of Directors

http://testingjeff.wordpress.com
http://associationforsoftwaretesting.org
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From bret at pettichord.com  Mon Aug 11 23:41:26 2008
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:41:26 -0500
Subject: [Wtr-development] Running the unit tests
In-Reply-To: <970956b0808111735k5f641675uc8757d38f3dc9334@mail.gmail.com>
References: <970956b0808081948l4f8f3b53s38b7fb5337679c2d@mail.gmail.com>
	<970956b0808111735k5f641675uc8757d38f3dc9334@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ade75c5b0808112041v1c690902qe2a26ce981f6b827@mail.gmail.com>

This happens when you haven't configured IE properly.

See here for details on what you need to do:
http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Run+the+Watir+Unit+Tests

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Jeff Fry <jeff.fry at gmail.com> wrote:

> FYI, here's what I get from running core_tests on trunk. Is this expected?
> Is this (wholly or partly) due to config requirements that I should meet
> before running core_tests?
>
> >ruby core_tests.rb
> Loaded suite core_tests
> Started
>
> ..................FF.....F........F.....F.FF....FF....................................................F...FF.................F.......F..........................F...F...........F.............F.F.................................
> Finished in 125.422 seconds.
>
>   1) Failure:
> test_click(TC_Button) [./unittests/buttons_test.rb:74]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>   2) Failure:
> test_default_how(TC_Button) [./unittests/buttons_test.rb:65]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>   3) Failure:
> test_SuccessMessage(TC_CSS) [./unittests/css_test.rb:48]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>   4) Failure:
> test_onClick(TC_CheckBox) [./unittests/checkbox_test.rb:45]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>   5) Failure:
> test_divs(TC_Divs) [./unittests/div_test.rb:20]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>   6) Failure:
> test_objects_in_div(TC_Divs) [./unittests/div_test.rb:72]:
> <"button1"> expected but was
> <"">.
>
>   7) Failure:
> test_objects_in_span(TC_Divs) [./unittests/div_test.rb:144]:
> <"button1"> expected but was
> <"">.
>
>   8) Failure:
> test_spans(TC_Divs) [./unittests/div_test.rb:92]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>   9) Failure:
> test_JS_Events(TC_Fields) [./unittests/textfields_test.rb:157]:
> <"keypresskeydownkeypresskeyup"> expected but was
> <"">.
>
>  10) Failure:
> test_hidden(TC_Hidden_Fields) [./unittests/form_test.rb:239]:
> <"44"> expected but was
> <"">.
>
>  11) Failure:
> test_Iframe(TC_IFrames) [./unittests/frame_test.rb:106]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>  12) Failure:
> test_iframes_id(TC_IFrames) [./unittests/frame_test.rb:114]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>  13) Failure:
> test_frame(TC_NestedFrames) [./unittests/frame_test.rb:91]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>  14) Failure:
> test_onClick(TC_Radios) [./unittests/radios_test.rb:51]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>  15) Failure:
> test_selectBox_select2(TC_Selectbox) [./unittests/selectbox_test.rb:145]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>  16) Failure:
> test_select_list_select_using_value2(TC_Selectbox)
> [./unittests/selectbox_test.rb:177]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>  17) Failure:
> test_dynamic_tables(TC_Tables) [./unittests/table_test.rb:64]:
> <6> expected but was
> <5>.
>
>  18) Failure:
> test_simple_table_buttons(TC_Tables_Buttons)
> [./unittests/table_test.rb:222]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>  19) Failure:
> test_table_from_element(TC_Tables_Buttons) [./unittests/table_test.rb:292]:
> <false> is not true.
>
> 226 tests, 1093 assertions, 19 failures, 0 errors
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Jeff Fry <jeff.fry at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey all, I just updated to the latest trunk and ran all_tests and
>> core_tests. I haven't done this in years, so I don't know what to compare
>> to, but I got a lot of failures. At least some - maybe all - seem to be
>> because IE7 is complaining about activeX that watir's trying to run.
>>
>> I looked in /watir/unittests/README and on the wiki, but couldn't find any
>> instructions for what settings I need to have in IE7 to get valid unit test
>> results, so...
>>
>> Can you point me toward what my IE7 settings should be, in order to get
>> valid unit test results? And are there any tests in either core_ or
>> all_tests that we expect to fail on trunk currently?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Fry
>> Member, Association for Software Testing Board of Directors
>>
>> http://testingjeff.wordpress.com
>> http://associationforsoftwaretesting.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jeff Fry
> Member, Association for Software Testing Board of Directors
>
> http://testingjeff.wordpress.com
> http://associationforsoftwaretesting.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>



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From bret at pettichord.com  Tue Aug 12 21:41:16 2008
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:41:16 -0500
Subject: [Wtr-development] Catching Up
Message-ID: <ade75c5b0808121841q65e01857pcae98e172fe1edb3@mail.gmail.com>

Hey my friends, I just realized that my feed reader stopped updating the
various rss feeds i use to track the Watir project. So, e.g., I did not see
Angrez's commits from July 29 or various Jira reports that people had been
logging. I thought things were quiet. Any way, I just wanted to let you
know, because I bet some of my emails seemed like I was disconnected. I was.
Catching up now...

Bret

-- 
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GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com
CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
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From alan.baird at riskmetrics.com  Mon Aug 18 10:41:30 2008
From: alan.baird at riskmetrics.com (Alan Baird)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:41:30 -0400
Subject: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki
	&pages
In-Reply-To: <C7AE87E1-616A-47E7-911E-918B64BDEEC4@gmail.com>
References: <ade75c5b0808070812l7357eb22ye295ac6751e97899@mail.gmail.com><296DCA57118A7143824911216017E83B0D82849F@MAIL-NY01.rmg-ny.com><ade75c5b0808110741o3f2170a6o957eb640f898e05@mail.gmail.com>
	<C7AE87E1-616A-47E7-911E-918B64BDEEC4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <296DCA57118A7143824911216017E83B0DB5FA86@MAIL-NY01.rmg-ny.com>

Bret -

 

Looks like Alister beat me to the migration.  Sorry I couldn't help
earlier.  If there is anything else I can do let me know.

 

Alan

 

________________________________

From: wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Tim Koopmans
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 4:46 PM
To: Watir development
Subject: Re: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki
&pages

 

I'm ready to announce via my blog!

 

Sorry can't be more helpful this week as I'm moving interstate with
work. However in coming weeks I will be able to lend more support and
pick up the pace with justaddwatir.com (maybe this also needs firewatir
specific examples now?) Although I expect you aim to cut down on
differences between watir and firewatir functionality in the long run
...

 

Keep up the good work, I expect you never sleep! =)

 

Regards,

Tim Koopmans

90kts.com

 

On 12/08/2008, at 12:41 AM, Bret Pettichord wrote:





That is great. Can you help with migrating the FireWatir wiki pages from
Google Code to Confluence?

Bret

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Alan Baird <alan.baird at riskmetrics.com>
wrote:

Bret -

 

I can give you about 3-4 hours a week if you still need it.  Let me know
what still needs to be done.

 

Alan

 

________________________________

From: wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Bret
Pettichord
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:13 AM
To: Watir development
Subject: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki &
pages

 

I just got back from the Agile 2008 conference. I'm working on a longer
report, but first I wanted to share a story.

I've been telling people about FireWatir. A lot of people know about
Watir, but FireWatir is much less well known, and people think that
Watir is still IE only. There are some things I can say and do to get
the message out. (I plan to formally release FireWatir 1.2 shortly).

But I want to take care of a few things before I publicize FireWatir. I
spoke to one person at the conference who recently installed FireWatir
and they complained about about having the install instructions in a
Word doc. As I'm sure you all know, many people interested in
open-source are surprised to see open-source documentation in a
proprietary format. Anyway, a couple of weeks ago I moved this
documentation to the confluence wiki to avoid this problem, but since
the old guide is still there and everything points to it, that is still
where people go.

original install guide -
http://firewatir.googlecode.com/files/New%20Installation%20Guide.doc
migrated to confluence -
http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir+Installation+Guide

People have also had problems finding the new XPI's, which are only the
new openqa wiki, but people are still looking for them on googlecode. 

Here is the new FireWatir page:
http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir

What we need to do is clearly deprecate the googlecode firewatir pages
and redirect people to confluence. I would like the release of FireWatir
1.2 to mark the migration off of google code the formal unification of
the two projects.

Here is what needs to happen. This is my top priority right now, and I
can turn around on any questions that come up quickly.

- Release Notes for FireWatir 1.2 - Bret (Bret, 2 hrs)
- Review & Finish Migrating pages from GoogleCode to Confluence
- Remove FireWatir 1.2 gem from GoogleCode (this kind of update will
give people the impression that this is still the place to find new
releases, instead we need to point them to the correct site)
- Address any other issues that prevent us from making openqa be the
public face of the FireWatir project
- Post a notice to the FireWatir GoogleCode home page that the project
has moved to OpenQA/Watir. (I don't have rights to do this, so need
Angrez to do this or have him give me rights).
- Upload FireWatir 1.2 to Rubyforge and make available to the gem remote
installer (Bret, 1 hr)
- Announce FireWatir 1.2 (everybody)

Make sense? Who would like to help me with this?

Bret

-- 
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CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog
<http://www.io.com/%7Ewazmo/blog> 
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Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development




-- 
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CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog
MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist 

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From bret at pettichord.com  Fri Aug  1 15:16:53 2008
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:16:53 -0500
Subject: [Wtr-development] WTR-233
In-Reply-To: <ade75c5b0807311308j57cfb824m76b45035370b4da7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ac2300c0807300920v72ca9d87wcda1e61a4acbe88e@mail.gmail.com>
	<ade75c5b0807311308j57cfb824m76b45035370b4da7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ade75c5b0808011216u4a49ea13ic0a20e7b7d5e86c2@mail.gmail.com>

Aidy, this is now assigned to you.

Bret

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>wrote:

> http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-233
>
> Aidy,
>
> I've requested that Patrick (who manages OpenQA) give you commit rights to
> Watir, which is needed before we can assign a ticket to you.
>
> To me this looks like a hard to problem to solve. I'm curious about your
> intentions. Have you been working on this? Do you have a solution?
>
> Bret
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:20 AM, aidy lewis <aidy.lewis at googlemail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Could someone assign this task to me in Jira please?
>>
>> Aidy
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Bret Pettichord
> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
> Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog<http://www.io.com/%7Ewazmo/blog>
> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist
>



-- 
Bret Pettichord
CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog
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From bret at pettichord.com  Thu Aug  7 11:12:46 2008
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:12:46 -0500
Subject: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki & pages
Message-ID: <ade75c5b0808070812l7357eb22ye295ac6751e97899@mail.gmail.com>

I just got back from the Agile 2008 conference. I'm working on a longer
report, but first I wanted to share a story.

I've been telling people about FireWatir. A lot of people know about Watir,
but FireWatir is much less well known, and people think that Watir is still
IE only. There are some things I can say and do to get the message out. (I
plan to formally release FireWatir 1.2 shortly).

But I want to take care of a few things before I publicize FireWatir. I
spoke to one person at the conference who recently installed FireWatir and
they complained about about having the install instructions in a Word doc.
As I'm sure you all know, many people interested in open-source are
surprised to see open-source documentation in a proprietary format. Anyway,
a couple of weeks ago I moved this documentation to the confluence wiki to
avoid this problem, but since the old guide is still there and everything
points to it, that is still where people go.

original install guide -
http://firewatir.googlecode.com/files/New%20Installation%20Guide.doc
migrated to confluence -
http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir+Installation+Guide

People have also had problems finding the new XPI's, which are only the new
openqa wiki, but people are still looking for them on googlecode.

Here is the new FireWatir page: http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir

What we need to do is clearly deprecate the googlecode firewatir pages and
redirect people to confluence. I would like the release of FireWatir 1.2 to
mark the migration off of google code the formal unification of the two
projects.

Here is what needs to happen. This is my top priority right now, and I can
turn around on any questions that come up quickly.

- Release Notes for FireWatir 1.2 - Bret (Bret, 2 hrs)
- Review & Finish Migrating pages from GoogleCode to Confluence
- Remove FireWatir 1.2 gem from GoogleCode (this kind of update will give
people the impression that this is still the place to find new releases,
instead we need to point them to the correct site)
- Address any other issues that prevent us from making openqa be the public
face of the FireWatir project
- Post a notice to the FireWatir GoogleCode home page that the project has
moved to OpenQA/Watir. (I don't have rights to do this, so need Angrez to do
this or have him give me rights).
- Upload FireWatir 1.2 to Rubyforge and make available to the gem remote
installer (Bret, 1 hr)
- Announce FireWatir 1.2 (everybody)

Make sense? Who would like to help me with this?

Bret

-- 
Bret Pettichord
CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog
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From jeff.fry at gmail.com  Fri Aug  8 22:48:18 2008
From: jeff.fry at gmail.com (Jeff Fry)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:48:18 -0700
Subject: [Wtr-development] Running the unit tests
Message-ID: <970956b0808081948l4f8f3b53s38b7fb5337679c2d@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all, I just updated to the latest trunk and ran all_tests and
core_tests. I haven't done this in years, so I don't know what to compare
to, but I got a lot of failures. At least some - maybe all - seem to be
because IE7 is complaining about activeX that watir's trying to run.

I looked in /watir/unittests/README and on the wiki, but couldn't find any
instructions for what settings I need to have in IE7 to get valid unit test
results, so...

Can you point me toward what my IE7 settings should be, in order to get
valid unit test results? And are there any tests in either core_ or
all_tests that we expect to fail on trunk currently?

Thanks,

-- 
Jeff Fry
Member, Association for Software Testing Board of Directors

http://testingjeff.wordpress.com
http://associationforsoftwaretesting.org
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From alan.baird at riskmetrics.com  Mon Aug 11 09:55:46 2008
From: alan.baird at riskmetrics.com (Alan Baird)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:55:46 -0400
Subject: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki &
	pages
In-Reply-To: <ade75c5b0808070812l7357eb22ye295ac6751e97899@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ade75c5b0808070812l7357eb22ye295ac6751e97899@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <296DCA57118A7143824911216017E83B0D82849F@MAIL-NY01.rmg-ny.com>

Bret -

 

I can give you about 3-4 hours a week if you still need it.  Let me know
what still needs to be done.

 

Alan

 

________________________________

From: wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Bret
Pettichord
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:13 AM
To: Watir development
Subject: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki &
pages

 

I just got back from the Agile 2008 conference. I'm working on a longer
report, but first I wanted to share a story.

I've been telling people about FireWatir. A lot of people know about
Watir, but FireWatir is much less well known, and people think that
Watir is still IE only. There are some things I can say and do to get
the message out. (I plan to formally release FireWatir 1.2 shortly).

But I want to take care of a few things before I publicize FireWatir. I
spoke to one person at the conference who recently installed FireWatir
and they complained about about having the install instructions in a
Word doc. As I'm sure you all know, many people interested in
open-source are surprised to see open-source documentation in a
proprietary format. Anyway, a couple of weeks ago I moved this
documentation to the confluence wiki to avoid this problem, but since
the old guide is still there and everything points to it, that is still
where people go.

original install guide -
http://firewatir.googlecode.com/files/New%20Installation%20Guide.doc
migrated to confluence -
http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir+Installation+Guide

People have also had problems finding the new XPI's, which are only the
new openqa wiki, but people are still looking for them on googlecode. 

Here is the new FireWatir page:
http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir

What we need to do is clearly deprecate the googlecode firewatir pages
and redirect people to confluence. I would like the release of FireWatir
1.2 to mark the migration off of google code the formal unification of
the two projects.

Here is what needs to happen. This is my top priority right now, and I
can turn around on any questions that come up quickly.

- Release Notes for FireWatir 1.2 - Bret (Bret, 2 hrs)
- Review & Finish Migrating pages from GoogleCode to Confluence
- Remove FireWatir 1.2 gem from GoogleCode (this kind of update will
give people the impression that this is still the place to find new
releases, instead we need to point them to the correct site)
- Address any other issues that prevent us from making openqa be the
public face of the FireWatir project
- Post a notice to the FireWatir GoogleCode home page that the project
has moved to OpenQA/Watir. (I don't have rights to do this, so need
Angrez to do this or have him give me rights).
- Upload FireWatir 1.2 to Rubyforge and make available to the gem remote
installer (Bret, 1 hr)
- Announce FireWatir 1.2 (everybody)

Make sense? Who would like to help me with this?

Bret

-- 
Bret Pettichord
CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog
MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist 

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From bret at pettichord.com  Mon Aug 11 10:41:42 2008
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:41:42 -0500
Subject: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki &
	pages
In-Reply-To: <296DCA57118A7143824911216017E83B0D82849F@MAIL-NY01.rmg-ny.com>
References: <ade75c5b0808070812l7357eb22ye295ac6751e97899@mail.gmail.com>
	<296DCA57118A7143824911216017E83B0D82849F@MAIL-NY01.rmg-ny.com>
Message-ID: <ade75c5b0808110741o3f2170a6o957eb640f898e05@mail.gmail.com>

That is great. Can you help with migrating the FireWatir wiki pages from
Google Code to Confluence?

Bret

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Alan Baird <alan.baird at riskmetrics.com>wrote:

>  Bret ?
>
>
>
> I can give you about 3-4 hours a week if you still need it.  Let me know
> what still needs to be done.
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:
> wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org] *On Behalf Of *Bret Pettichord
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:13 AM
> *To:* Watir development
> *Subject:* [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki &
> pages
>
>
>
> I just got back from the Agile 2008 conference. I'm working on a longer
> report, but first I wanted to share a story.
>
> I've been telling people about FireWatir. A lot of people know about Watir,
> but FireWatir is much less well known, and people think that Watir is still
> IE only. There are some things I can say and do to get the message out. (I
> plan to formally release FireWatir 1.2 shortly).
>
> But I want to take care of a few things before I publicize FireWatir. I
> spoke to one person at the conference who recently installed FireWatir and
> they complained about about having the install instructions in a Word doc.
> As I'm sure you all know, many people interested in open-source are
> surprised to see open-source documentation in a proprietary format. Anyway,
> a couple of weeks ago I moved this documentation to the confluence wiki to
> avoid this problem, but since the old guide is still there and everything
> points to it, that is still where people go.
>
> original install guide -
> http://firewatir.googlecode.com/files/New%20Installation%20Guide.doc
> migrated to confluence -
> http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir+Installation+Guide
>
> People have also had problems finding the new XPI's, which are only the new
> openqa wiki, but people are still looking for them on googlecode.
>
> Here is the new FireWatir page:
> http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir
>
> What we need to do is clearly deprecate the googlecode firewatir pages and
> redirect people to confluence. I would like the release of FireWatir 1.2 to
> mark the migration off of google code the formal unification of the two
> projects.
>
> Here is what needs to happen. This is my top priority right now, and I can
> turn around on any questions that come up quickly.
>
> - Release Notes for FireWatir 1.2 - Bret (Bret, 2 hrs)
> - Review & Finish Migrating pages from GoogleCode to Confluence
> - Remove FireWatir 1.2 gem from GoogleCode (this kind of update will give
> people the impression that this is still the place to find new releases,
> instead we need to point them to the correct site)
> - Address any other issues that prevent us from making openqa be the public
> face of the FireWatir project
> - Post a notice to the FireWatir GoogleCode home page that the project has
> moved to OpenQA/Watir. (I don't have rights to do this, so need Angrez to do
> this or have him give me rights).
> - Upload FireWatir 1.2 to Rubyforge and make available to the gem remote
> installer (Bret, 1 hr)
> - Announce FireWatir 1.2 (everybody)
>
> Make sense? Who would like to help me with this?
>
> Bret
>
> --
> Bret Pettichord
> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
> Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog<http://www.io.com/%7Ewazmo/blog>
> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>



-- 
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CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog
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From tim.koops at gmail.com  Mon Aug 11 17:45:50 2008
From: tim.koops at gmail.com (Tim Koopmans)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:45:50 +1000
Subject: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki &
	pages
In-Reply-To: <ade75c5b0808110741o3f2170a6o957eb640f898e05@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ade75c5b0808070812l7357eb22ye295ac6751e97899@mail.gmail.com>
	<296DCA57118A7143824911216017E83B0D82849F@MAIL-NY01.rmg-ny.com>
	<ade75c5b0808110741o3f2170a6o957eb640f898e05@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C7AE87E1-616A-47E7-911E-918B64BDEEC4@gmail.com>

I'm ready to announce via my blog!

Sorry can't be more helpful this week as I'm moving interstate with  
work. However in coming weeks I will be able to lend more support and  
pick up the pace with justaddwatir.com (maybe this also needs  
firewatir specific examples now?) Although I expect you aim to cut  
down on differences between watir and firewatir functionality in the  
long run ...

Keep up the good work, I expect you never sleep! =)

Regards,
Tim Koopmans
90kts.com

On 12/08/2008, at 12:41 AM, Bret Pettichord wrote:

> That is great. Can you help with migrating the FireWatir wiki pages  
> from Google Code to Confluence?
>
> Bret
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Alan Baird <alan.baird at riskmetrics.com 
> > wrote:
> Bret ?
>
>
> I can give you about 3-4 hours a week if you still need it.  Let me  
> know what still needs to be done.
>
>
> Alan
>
>
> From: wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org [mailto:wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org 
> ] On Behalf Of Bret Pettichord
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:13 AM
> To: Watir development
> Subject: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki  
> & pages
>
>
> I just got back from the Agile 2008 conference. I'm working on a  
> longer report, but first I wanted to share a story.
>
> I've been telling people about FireWatir. A lot of people know about  
> Watir, but FireWatir is much less well known, and people think that  
> Watir is still IE only. There are some things I can say and do to  
> get the message out. (I plan to formally release FireWatir 1.2  
> shortly).
>
> But I want to take care of a few things before I publicize  
> FireWatir. I spoke to one person at the conference who recently  
> installed FireWatir and they complained about about having the  
> install instructions in a Word doc. As I'm sure you all know, many  
> people interested in open-source are surprised to see open-source  
> documentation in a proprietary format. Anyway, a couple of weeks ago  
> I moved this documentation to the confluence wiki to avoid this  
> problem, but since the old guide is still there and everything  
> points to it, that is still where people go.
>
> original install guide - http://firewatir.googlecode.com/files/New%20Installation%20Guide.doc
> migrated to confluence - http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir+Installation+Guide
>
> People have also had problems finding the new XPI's, which are only  
> the new openqa wiki, but people are still looking for them on  
> googlecode.
>
> Here is the new FireWatir page: http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir
>
> What we need to do is clearly deprecate the googlecode firewatir  
> pages and redirect people to confluence. I would like the release of  
> FireWatir 1.2 to mark the migration off of google code the formal  
> unification of the two projects.
>
> Here is what needs to happen. This is my top priority right now, and  
> I can turn around on any questions that come up quickly.
>
> - Release Notes for FireWatir 1.2 - Bret (Bret, 2 hrs)
> - Review & Finish Migrating pages from GoogleCode to Confluence
> - Remove FireWatir 1.2 gem from GoogleCode (this kind of update will  
> give people the impression that this is still the place to find new  
> releases, instead we need to point them to the correct site)
> - Address any other issues that prevent us from making openqa be the  
> public face of the FireWatir project
> - Post a notice to the FireWatir GoogleCode home page that the  
> project has moved to OpenQA/Watir. (I don't have rights to do this,  
> so need Angrez to do this or have him give me rights).
> - Upload FireWatir 1.2 to Rubyforge and make available to the gem  
> remote installer (Bret, 1 hr)
> - Announce FireWatir 1.2 (everybody)
>
> Make sense? Who would like to help me with this?
>
> Bret
>
> -- 
> Bret Pettichord
> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
> Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog
> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>
>
>
> -- 
> Bret Pettichord
> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
> Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog
> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development

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From jeff.fry at gmail.com  Mon Aug 11 20:35:25 2008
From: jeff.fry at gmail.com (Jeff Fry)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:35:25 -0700
Subject: [Wtr-development] Running the unit tests
In-Reply-To: <970956b0808081948l4f8f3b53s38b7fb5337679c2d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <970956b0808081948l4f8f3b53s38b7fb5337679c2d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <970956b0808111735k5f641675uc8757d38f3dc9334@mail.gmail.com>

FYI, here's what I get from running core_tests on trunk. Is this expected?
Is this (wholly or partly) due to config requirements that I should meet
before running core_tests?

>ruby core_tests.rb
Loaded suite core_tests
Started
..................FF.....F........F.....F.FF....FF....................................................F...FF.................F.......F..........................F...F...........F.............F.F.................................
Finished in 125.422 seconds.

  1) Failure:
test_click(TC_Button) [./unittests/buttons_test.rb:74]:
<false> is not true.

  2) Failure:
test_default_how(TC_Button) [./unittests/buttons_test.rb:65]:
<false> is not true.

  3) Failure:
test_SuccessMessage(TC_CSS) [./unittests/css_test.rb:48]:
<false> is not true.

  4) Failure:
test_onClick(TC_CheckBox) [./unittests/checkbox_test.rb:45]:
<false> is not true.

  5) Failure:
test_divs(TC_Divs) [./unittests/div_test.rb:20]:
<false> is not true.

  6) Failure:
test_objects_in_div(TC_Divs) [./unittests/div_test.rb:72]:
<"button1"> expected but was
<"">.

  7) Failure:
test_objects_in_span(TC_Divs) [./unittests/div_test.rb:144]:
<"button1"> expected but was
<"">.

  8) Failure:
test_spans(TC_Divs) [./unittests/div_test.rb:92]:
<false> is not true.

  9) Failure:
test_JS_Events(TC_Fields) [./unittests/textfields_test.rb:157]:
<"keypresskeydownkeypresskeyup"> expected but was
<"">.

 10) Failure:
test_hidden(TC_Hidden_Fields) [./unittests/form_test.rb:239]:
<"44"> expected but was
<"">.

 11) Failure:
test_Iframe(TC_IFrames) [./unittests/frame_test.rb:106]:
<false> is not true.

 12) Failure:
test_iframes_id(TC_IFrames) [./unittests/frame_test.rb:114]:
<false> is not true.

 13) Failure:
test_frame(TC_NestedFrames) [./unittests/frame_test.rb:91]:
<false> is not true.

 14) Failure:
test_onClick(TC_Radios) [./unittests/radios_test.rb:51]:
<false> is not true.

 15) Failure:
test_selectBox_select2(TC_Selectbox) [./unittests/selectbox_test.rb:145]:
<false> is not true.

 16) Failure:
test_select_list_select_using_value2(TC_Selectbox)
[./unittests/selectbox_test.rb:177]:
<false> is not true.

 17) Failure:
test_dynamic_tables(TC_Tables) [./unittests/table_test.rb:64]:
<6> expected but was
<5>.

 18) Failure:
test_simple_table_buttons(TC_Tables_Buttons)
[./unittests/table_test.rb:222]:
<false> is not true.

 19) Failure:
test_table_from_element(TC_Tables_Buttons) [./unittests/table_test.rb:292]:
<false> is not true.

226 tests, 1093 assertions, 19 failures, 0 errors


On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Jeff Fry <jeff.fry at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey all, I just updated to the latest trunk and ran all_tests and
> core_tests. I haven't done this in years, so I don't know what to compare
> to, but I got a lot of failures. At least some - maybe all - seem to be
> because IE7 is complaining about activeX that watir's trying to run.
>
> I looked in /watir/unittests/README and on the wiki, but couldn't find any
> instructions for what settings I need to have in IE7 to get valid unit test
> results, so...
>
> Can you point me toward what my IE7 settings should be, in order to get
> valid unit test results? And are there any tests in either core_ or
> all_tests that we expect to fail on trunk currently?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Jeff Fry
> Member, Association for Software Testing Board of Directors
>
> http://testingjeff.wordpress.com
> http://associationforsoftwaretesting.org
>



-- 
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Member, Association for Software Testing Board of Directors

http://testingjeff.wordpress.com
http://associationforsoftwaretesting.org
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From bret at pettichord.com  Mon Aug 11 23:41:26 2008
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:41:26 -0500
Subject: [Wtr-development] Running the unit tests
In-Reply-To: <970956b0808111735k5f641675uc8757d38f3dc9334@mail.gmail.com>
References: <970956b0808081948l4f8f3b53s38b7fb5337679c2d@mail.gmail.com>
	<970956b0808111735k5f641675uc8757d38f3dc9334@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ade75c5b0808112041v1c690902qe2a26ce981f6b827@mail.gmail.com>

This happens when you haven't configured IE properly.

See here for details on what you need to do:
http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/Run+the+Watir+Unit+Tests

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Jeff Fry <jeff.fry at gmail.com> wrote:

> FYI, here's what I get from running core_tests on trunk. Is this expected?
> Is this (wholly or partly) due to config requirements that I should meet
> before running core_tests?
>
> >ruby core_tests.rb
> Loaded suite core_tests
> Started
>
> ..................FF.....F........F.....F.FF....FF....................................................F...FF.................F.......F..........................F...F...........F.............F.F.................................
> Finished in 125.422 seconds.
>
>   1) Failure:
> test_click(TC_Button) [./unittests/buttons_test.rb:74]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>   2) Failure:
> test_default_how(TC_Button) [./unittests/buttons_test.rb:65]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>   3) Failure:
> test_SuccessMessage(TC_CSS) [./unittests/css_test.rb:48]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>   4) Failure:
> test_onClick(TC_CheckBox) [./unittests/checkbox_test.rb:45]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>   5) Failure:
> test_divs(TC_Divs) [./unittests/div_test.rb:20]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>   6) Failure:
> test_objects_in_div(TC_Divs) [./unittests/div_test.rb:72]:
> <"button1"> expected but was
> <"">.
>
>   7) Failure:
> test_objects_in_span(TC_Divs) [./unittests/div_test.rb:144]:
> <"button1"> expected but was
> <"">.
>
>   8) Failure:
> test_spans(TC_Divs) [./unittests/div_test.rb:92]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>   9) Failure:
> test_JS_Events(TC_Fields) [./unittests/textfields_test.rb:157]:
> <"keypresskeydownkeypresskeyup"> expected but was
> <"">.
>
>  10) Failure:
> test_hidden(TC_Hidden_Fields) [./unittests/form_test.rb:239]:
> <"44"> expected but was
> <"">.
>
>  11) Failure:
> test_Iframe(TC_IFrames) [./unittests/frame_test.rb:106]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>  12) Failure:
> test_iframes_id(TC_IFrames) [./unittests/frame_test.rb:114]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>  13) Failure:
> test_frame(TC_NestedFrames) [./unittests/frame_test.rb:91]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>  14) Failure:
> test_onClick(TC_Radios) [./unittests/radios_test.rb:51]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>  15) Failure:
> test_selectBox_select2(TC_Selectbox) [./unittests/selectbox_test.rb:145]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>  16) Failure:
> test_select_list_select_using_value2(TC_Selectbox)
> [./unittests/selectbox_test.rb:177]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>  17) Failure:
> test_dynamic_tables(TC_Tables) [./unittests/table_test.rb:64]:
> <6> expected but was
> <5>.
>
>  18) Failure:
> test_simple_table_buttons(TC_Tables_Buttons)
> [./unittests/table_test.rb:222]:
> <false> is not true.
>
>  19) Failure:
> test_table_from_element(TC_Tables_Buttons) [./unittests/table_test.rb:292]:
> <false> is not true.
>
> 226 tests, 1093 assertions, 19 failures, 0 errors
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Jeff Fry <jeff.fry at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey all, I just updated to the latest trunk and ran all_tests and
>> core_tests. I haven't done this in years, so I don't know what to compare
>> to, but I got a lot of failures. At least some - maybe all - seem to be
>> because IE7 is complaining about activeX that watir's trying to run.
>>
>> I looked in /watir/unittests/README and on the wiki, but couldn't find any
>> instructions for what settings I need to have in IE7 to get valid unit test
>> results, so...
>>
>> Can you point me toward what my IE7 settings should be, in order to get
>> valid unit test results? And are there any tests in either core_ or
>> all_tests that we expect to fail on trunk currently?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Fry
>> Member, Association for Software Testing Board of Directors
>>
>> http://testingjeff.wordpress.com
>> http://associationforsoftwaretesting.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jeff Fry
> Member, Association for Software Testing Board of Directors
>
> http://testingjeff.wordpress.com
> http://associationforsoftwaretesting.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>



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GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com
Twitter: bpettichord
CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org
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From bret at pettichord.com  Tue Aug 12 21:41:16 2008
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:41:16 -0500
Subject: [Wtr-development] Catching Up
Message-ID: <ade75c5b0808121841q65e01857pcae98e172fe1edb3@mail.gmail.com>

Hey my friends, I just realized that my feed reader stopped updating the
various rss feeds i use to track the Watir project. So, e.g., I did not see
Angrez's commits from July 29 or various Jira reports that people had been
logging. I thought things were quiet. Any way, I just wanted to let you
know, because I bet some of my emails seemed like I was disconnected. I was.
Catching up now...

Bret

-- 
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GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com
CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com
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From alan.baird at riskmetrics.com  Mon Aug 18 10:41:30 2008
From: alan.baird at riskmetrics.com (Alan Baird)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:41:30 -0400
Subject: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki
	&pages
In-Reply-To: <C7AE87E1-616A-47E7-911E-918B64BDEEC4@gmail.com>
References: <ade75c5b0808070812l7357eb22ye295ac6751e97899@mail.gmail.com><296DCA57118A7143824911216017E83B0D82849F@MAIL-NY01.rmg-ny.com><ade75c5b0808110741o3f2170a6o957eb640f898e05@mail.gmail.com>
	<C7AE87E1-616A-47E7-911E-918B64BDEEC4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <296DCA57118A7143824911216017E83B0DB5FA86@MAIL-NY01.rmg-ny.com>

Bret -

 

Looks like Alister beat me to the migration.  Sorry I couldn't help
earlier.  If there is anything else I can do let me know.

 

Alan

 

________________________________

From: wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Tim Koopmans
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 4:46 PM
To: Watir development
Subject: Re: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki
&pages

 

I'm ready to announce via my blog!

 

Sorry can't be more helpful this week as I'm moving interstate with
work. However in coming weeks I will be able to lend more support and
pick up the pace with justaddwatir.com (maybe this also needs firewatir
specific examples now?) Although I expect you aim to cut down on
differences between watir and firewatir functionality in the long run
...

 

Keep up the good work, I expect you never sleep! =)

 

Regards,

Tim Koopmans

90kts.com

 

On 12/08/2008, at 12:41 AM, Bret Pettichord wrote:





That is great. Can you help with migrating the FireWatir wiki pages from
Google Code to Confluence?

Bret

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Alan Baird <alan.baird at riskmetrics.com>
wrote:

Bret -

 

I can give you about 3-4 hours a week if you still need it.  Let me know
what still needs to be done.

 

Alan

 

________________________________

From: wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org
[mailto:wtr-development-bounces at rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of Bret
Pettichord
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:13 AM
To: Watir development
Subject: [Wtr-development] Moving off the Firewatir/GoogleCode wiki &
pages

 

I just got back from the Agile 2008 conference. I'm working on a longer
report, but first I wanted to share a story.

I've been telling people about FireWatir. A lot of people know about
Watir, but FireWatir is much less well known, and people think that
Watir is still IE only. There are some things I can say and do to get
the message out. (I plan to formally release FireWatir 1.2 shortly).

But I want to take care of a few things before I publicize FireWatir. I
spoke to one person at the conference who recently installed FireWatir
and they complained about about having the install instructions in a
Word doc. As I'm sure you all know, many people interested in
open-source are surprised to see open-source documentation in a
proprietary format. Anyway, a couple of weeks ago I moved this
documentation to the confluence wiki to avoid this problem, but since
the old guide is still there and everything points to it, that is still
where people go.

original install guide -
http://firewatir.googlecode.com/files/New%20Installation%20Guide.doc
migrated to confluence -
http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir+Installation+Guide

People have also had problems finding the new XPI's, which are only the
new openqa wiki, but people are still looking for them on googlecode. 

Here is the new FireWatir page:
http://wiki.openqa.org/display/WTR/FireWatir

What we need to do is clearly deprecate the googlecode firewatir pages
and redirect people to confluence. I would like the release of FireWatir
1.2 to mark the migration off of google code the formal unification of
the two projects.

Here is what needs to happen. This is my top priority right now, and I
can turn around on any questions that come up quickly.

- Release Notes for FireWatir 1.2 - Bret (Bret, 2 hrs)
- Review & Finish Migrating pages from GoogleCode to Confluence
- Remove FireWatir 1.2 gem from GoogleCode (this kind of update will
give people the impression that this is still the place to find new
releases, instead we need to point them to the correct site)
- Address any other issues that prevent us from making openqa be the
public face of the FireWatir project
- Post a notice to the FireWatir GoogleCode home page that the project
has moved to OpenQA/Watir. (I don't have rights to do this, so need
Angrez to do this or have him give me rights).
- Upload FireWatir 1.2 to Rubyforge and make available to the gem remote
installer (Bret, 1 hr)
- Announce FireWatir 1.2 (everybody)

Make sense? Who would like to help me with this?

Bret

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