From welkin_inc at hotmail.com Mon Feb 2 17:35:43 2009 From: welkin_inc at hotmail.com (Andrew McFarlane) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:35:43 -0700 Subject: [Wtr-development] More XPath speed thoughts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Back in December, I wondered aloud if I could speed up finding a control via XPath by accessing ie's msxml process. I could not figure out how to do that. I can speed up seeing if a particular element exists by using libxml instead of rexml. However, if I want to activate an element (e.g. click()) instead of just examine it, I need to implement a parser, which seems to be the intent of element_by_absolute_xpath() in the source code. Has anyone tried to either make element_by_absolute_xpath() faster or worked on anything else that would make ie xpath support for ie faster? How about using a fast javascript xpath library? Thanks. Andrew _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: E-mail. Chat. Share. 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The assumption is that you can get Celerity/JRuby on the EC2 platform. Does anyone know if this is possible? Ken On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Tim Koopmans wrote: > Ec2 has win2k3 and it's perfectly viable for GUI automation or load > testing. I'm using it for the latter. > > Regards, > Tim > > Sent from my mobile... > > > On 31/01/2009, at 2:57, Paul Rogers wrote: > > do you have any links to what guis are available on ec2. I know >> windows server is available, burt my understanding is that it doesnt >> give you the windows desktop. I guess under linux you could run >> something like virtual box in headless mode and remote desktop in, but >> I think it would be unusable from the client because of the speed. >> >> Paul >> >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Andrew McFarlane >> wrote: >> >>> EC2 allows you to use a GUI. It also now allows you to use a Windows >>> image. I see that people are doing cross-browser testing on EC2, so why >>> not >>> do automated load tests that way? The app that I am testing is too >>> complicated to model using a simulated browser tool like Jmeter. >>> >>> I'm headed down this path--I'll let you know how it goes. >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:02:10 -0700 >>>> From: paul.rogers at shaw.ca >>>> To: wtr-development at rubyforge.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Wtr-development] (no subject) >>>> >>>> ec2 only gives you a linux machine with no gui. Use a load testing >>>> tool like jmeter >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Andrew McFarlane >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Has anyone thought about using Watir to do load testing using EC2 or >>>>> something similar to Selenium Grid? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Andrew >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> Windows Live? Hotmail(R):?more than just e-mail. 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URL: From tim.koops at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 13:55:51 2009 From: tim.koops at gmail.com (Tim Koopmans) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:55:51 +1100 Subject: [Wtr-development] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <41b342cf0902031002uab2dd1apacd43d65fe5952c@mail.gmail.com> References: <41b342cf0902031002uab2dd1apacd43d65fe5952c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4684BD79-06DE-4F7B-ADCE-72BA91F4E689@gmail.com> Interesting using celerity... You can install any thing u like on ec2. Think of it like ur own VM... Regards, Tim Sent from my mobile... On 04/02/2009, at 5:02, Kenneth De Souza wrote: > We have been experimenting with Celerity (see http://celerity.rubyforge.org/ > ) to see if we can do performance testing with it. > > The nice thing about Celerity is that its 'headless', so it can run > at console; you also don't need IE to run it. > > We have taken a few of our scripts and made them 'somewhat' > compatible with both Celerity and Watir. > > So, in theory, you should be able to use the EC2 console interface > to drive the tests using your Watir scripts and Celerity on the > Amazon EC2 end. > > The assumption is that you can get Celerity/JRuby on the EC2 > platform. Does anyone know if this is possible? > > Ken > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Tim Koopmans > wrote: > Ec2 has win2k3 and it's perfectly viable for GUI automation or > load testing. I'm using it for the latter. > > Regards, > Tim > > Sent from my mobile... > > > On 31/01/2009, at 2:57, Paul Rogers wrote: > > do you have any links to what guis are available on ec2. I know > windows server is available, burt my understanding is that it doesnt > give you the windows desktop. I guess under linux you could run > something like virtual box in headless mode and remote desktop in, but > I think it would be unusable from the client because of the speed. > > Paul > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Andrew McFarlane > wrote: > EC2 allows you to use a GUI. It also now allows you to use a Windows > image. I see that people are doing cross-browser testing on EC2, so > why not > do automated load tests that way? The app that I am testing is too > complicated to model using a simulated browser tool like Jmeter. > > I'm headed down this path--I'll let you know how it goes. > > Andrew > > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:02:10 -0700 > From: paul.rogers at shaw.ca > To: wtr-development at rubyforge.org > Subject: Re: [Wtr-development] (no subject) > > ec2 only gives you a linux machine with no gui. Use a load testing > tool like jmeter > > Paul > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Andrew McFarlane > wrote: > Has anyone thought about using Watir to do load testing using EC2 or > something similar to Selenium Grid? > > Thanks. > > Andrew > > ________________________________ > Windows Live? Hotmail(R):?more than just e-mail. 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We have a mailing list and you all are welcome to > join us and learn more about what we are doing. > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/watir-framework/ > > Bret > > -- > Bret Pettichord > GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com > CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com > Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org > Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog > MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > From bret at pettichord.com Wed Feb 4 10:22:02 2009 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:22:02 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] WatirCraft Framework In-Reply-To: <7ac2300c0902040637w7504b68dx528d358f26a4554e@mail.gmail.com> References: <7ac2300c0902040637w7504b68dx528d358f26a4554e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: We have several working examples. We have examples of using both rspec and cucumber style tests within the WatirCraft framework (as well as separately). And the framework examples also has examples that use Rasta. Bret On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:37 AM, aidy lewis wrote: > Hi Bret, > > Do we have any working examples except for the Rspec specs? > > Aidy > > 2009/2/3 Bret Pettichord : > > I've been quietly working on a new testing framework for Watir users. It > is > > called WatirCraft and you can find out more about it here. > > http://bpettichord.backpackit.com/pub/1648993 > > > > There are actually several of us working on testing frameworks for Watir: > > Taza, Rasta, Watirloo. We have a mailing list and you all are welcome to > > join us and learn more about what we are doing. > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/watir-framework/ > > > > Bret > > > > -- > > Bret Pettichord > > GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com > > CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com > > Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org > > Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog > > MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wtr-development mailing list > > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > -- Bret Pettichord GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.rogers at shaw.ca Thu Feb 5 16:27:20 2009 From: paul.rogers at shaw.ca (Paul Rogers) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:27:20 -0700 Subject: [Wtr-development] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I tried out an image yesterday, and after a few problems Im really happy with it. I think if its left on all the time its about $70 a month. My main driver was to have an ip outside of my office range, but having set up an image that is reasonably fast to use I can see other uses for it too. We use a service called RightScale which is some add ons to ec2 for scaling, which may also be a help Paul On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Tim Koopmans wrote: > Ec2 has win2k3 and it's perfectly viable for GUI automation or load > testing. I'm using it for the latter. > > Regards, > Tim > > Sent from my mobile... > > On 31/01/2009, at 2:57, Paul Rogers wrote: > >> do you have any links to what guis are available on ec2. I know >> windows server is available, burt my understanding is that it doesnt >> give you the windows desktop. I guess under linux you could run >> something like virtual box in headless mode and remote desktop in, but >> I think it would be unusable from the client because of the speed. >> >> Paul >> >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Andrew McFarlane >> wrote: >>> >>> EC2 allows you to use a GUI. It also now allows you to use a Windows >>> image. I see that people are doing cross-browser testing on EC2, so why >>> not >>> do automated load tests that way? The app that I am testing is too >>> complicated to model using a simulated browser tool like Jmeter. >>> >>> I'm headed down this path--I'll let you know how it goes. >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>>> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:02:10 -0700 >>>> From: paul.rogers at shaw.ca >>>> To: wtr-development at rubyforge.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Wtr-development] (no subject) >>>> >>>> ec2 only gives you a linux machine with no gui. Use a load testing >>>> tool like jmeter >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Andrew McFarlane >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone thought about using Watir to do load testing using EC2 or >>>>> something similar to Selenium Grid? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Andrew >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> Windows Live? Hotmail(R):?more than just e-mail. Check it out. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wtr-development mailing list >>>>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wtr-development mailing list >>>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> Hotmail(R) goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. See >>> how. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wtr-development mailing list >>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wtr-development mailing list >> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development From bpettichord at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 01:55:53 2009 From: bpettichord at gmail.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 00:55:53 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] Fwd: Fixing Watir Problem, was Re: Watir is acting retarded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One idea. Comments? Bret ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Daniel Berger Date: Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:39 PM Subject: Re: Fixing Watir Problem, was Re: Watir is acting retarded To: ruby-talk ML On Feb 5, 6:38 pm, Bret Pettichord wrote: > [Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.] > > Daniel, > > Should we release a new Watir gem installer that requires these updated > files? Wouldn't hurt I suppose. It would probably be less confusing. Sorry for the trouble. Regards, Dan > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Daniel Waite wrote: > > Daniel Berger wrote: > > > Yep, you want this combination: > > > > win32-api 1.3.0 or later > > > windows-api 0.3.0 or later > > > windows-pr 0.9.9 or later > > > Duly noted. Installing Watir installed all those things (plus a few > > other gems). However, I have two versions of windows-pr: 0.9.3 and > > 0.9.9. My guess is that Watir installed 0.9.3. 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URL: From charley.baker at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 12:02:46 2009 From: charley.baker at gmail.com (Charley Baker) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:02:46 -0700 Subject: [Wtr-development] Fwd: Fixing Watir Problem, was Re: Watir is acting retarded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That seems like the most viable approach and easy enough to update the gemspec with the latest versions. Charley Baker blog: http://charleybakersblog.blogspot.com/ Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org QA Architect, Gap Inc Direct On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Bret Pettichord wrote: > One idea. Comments? > > Bret > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Daniel Berger > Date: Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:39 PM > Subject: Re: Fixing Watir Problem, was Re: Watir is acting retarded > To: ruby-talk ML > > > On Feb 5, 6:38 pm, Bret Pettichord wrote: > > [Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.] > > > > Daniel, > > > > Should we release a new Watir gem installer that requires these updated > > files? > > Wouldn't hurt I suppose. It would probably be less confusing. > > Sorry for the trouble. > > Regards, > > Dan > > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Daniel Waite > wrote: > > > Daniel Berger wrote: > > > > Yep, you want this combination: > > > > > > win32-api 1.3.0 or later > > > > windows-api 0.3.0 or later > > > > windows-pr 0.9.9 or later > > > > > Duly noted. Installing Watir installed all those things (plus a few > > > other gems). However, I have two versions of windows-pr: 0.9.3 and > > > 0.9.9. My guess is that Watir installed 0.9.3. 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URL: From bret at pettichord.com Mon Feb 9 00:11:09 2009 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 23:11:09 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir on Github Message-ID: http://github.com/bret/watir/tree/master I would like us to start using this as our code base effective immediately. If you don't know git and want to work on the watir (firewatir, etc) code base, please install and and learn it. Questions? Ask. If you want to work on Watir and don't have commit rights, it doesn't matter. You can fork the code on github, create your own repository, push your changes to it, and then send us a pull request. This is much much easier than messing with patches. Not sure if we'll have lots of people pushing to the central repository (as we did with SVN) or whether we'll have pull requests, with someone pulling. Probably some of both. Recent committers have been: Angrez, Charley, Jim, Jarib, Me. If you would rather push directly to this repo, please let me know. I've already given Charley rights to do this. My goal is not to shut anybody out. I'll need to know your github username. If you have been an old-time committer to Watir, and are thinking of commiting again. Or if you are working on a side project that isn't ready to committed yet. (yes you, Paul). Then you should create a public fork and then work on your code to your hearts content. We can watch and maybe even help you out. And someday, one of us (any of us) can decide its time to merge and just do it. There is actually another way to use git and github that charley and i discussed at length. We would put the code under "watir/watir" (instead of "bret/watir") and then everyone would commit to that. The main reason i wanted to use git is to make it easier for us to scale up to get contributions from more people. To me, this method makes it clearer to outsiders who owns a repository. And if it's not me, fine. BTW, did you all notice that SafariWatir moved to github last week? 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Running into one problem > though (perhaps manifested in a couple of different ways) and I was > wondering if you might have some suggestions. > Basically what's happening is that there seems to be a bit of a memory leak > in firefox, and so when I use scrubyt/firewatir to scrape a lot of web > pages, everything kind of hangs up. What I'd like to do is restart firefox > from within my ruby script so that I can flush it every 100 pages or so, but > that doesn't seem to work. I tried something like the following just as a > test: > > ff = FireWatir::Firefox.new > ff.goto 'http://www.yahoo.com' > sleep 3 > ff.close > puts('Closed') > ff = FireWatir::Firefox.new > ff.goto 'http://www.yahoo.com' > sleep 3 > ff.close > puts('Closed') > > But it hangs up in various ways - sometimes because firefox puts up the > dialog that you can't have 2 windows running at once, sometimes for other > reasons. I suppose I could figure out how to exec out and actually > start/kill the firefox -jssh processes, but that seems tricky. > > Anyway, if there is an approved way to do this, that would be great. > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > -Cam > > http://www.cameronferroni.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com Mon Feb 9 03:49:19 2009 From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:49:19 +0100 Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir on Github In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Now we have to record a 5-10 minute podcast about moving to git. :) But really, I think we should do it. ?eljko -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From welkin_inc at hotmail.com Mon Feb 9 10:36:58 2009 From: welkin_inc at hotmail.com (Andrew McFarlane) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:36:58 -0700 Subject: [Wtr-development] Firewatir Question In-Reply-To: References: <90155781-F896-4A7A-95A3-520A9B451AE5@ferroni.net> Message-ID: This isn't 100% foolproof, and it is a bit drastic, but it's all I can think of... require 'win32ole' .... ff.close sleep 5 # Make sure it's really gone. wmi = WIN32OLE.connect("winmgmts://") processes = wmi.ExecQuery("select * from win32_process where commandline like '%firefox%'") processes.each do |process| Process.kill('KILL', process.ProcessID) end Andrew Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:50:52 +0530 From: angrez at gmail.com To: cam at ferroni.net; wtr-development at rubyforge.org; watir-general at googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Wtr-development] Firewatir Question Posting it to watir-general, & watir-development mailing list also. may be someone has an idea on how to go about? - Angrez On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Cameron Ferroni wrote: Hey Angrez - thanks for the great work on firewatir - I have it up and running as part of scrubyt, and am loving it. Running into one problem though (perhaps manifested in a couple of different ways) and I was wondering if you might have some suggestions. Basically what's happening is that there seems to be a bit of a memory leak in firefox, and so when I use scrubyt/firewatir to scrape a lot of web pages, everything kind of hangs up. What I'd like to do is restart firefox from within my ruby script so that I can flush it every 100 pages or so, but that doesn't seem to work. I tried something like the following just as a test: ff = FireWatir::Firefox.new ff.goto 'http://www.yahoo.com' sleep 3 ff.close puts('Closed') ff = FireWatir::Firefox.new ff.goto 'http://www.yahoo.com' sleep 3 ff.close puts('Closed') But it hangs up in various ways - sometimes because firefox puts up the dialog that you can't have 2 windows running at once, sometimes for other reasons. I suppose I could figure out how to exec out and actually start/kill the firefox -jssh processes, but that seems tricky. Anyway, if there is an approved way to do this, that would be great. Any suggestions appreciated. -Cam http://www.cameronferroni.com _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bret at pettichord.com Mon Feb 9 12:23:19 2009 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:23:19 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir on Github In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sure. Any time. Bret On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:49 AM, ?eljko Filipin wrote: > Now we have to record a 5-10 minute podcast about moving to git. :) > > But really, I think we should do it. > > ?eljko > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > -- Bret Pettichord GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael_hwee at yahoo.com Mon Feb 9 12:47:06 2009 From: michael_hwee at yahoo.com (Michael Hwee) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:47:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Wtr-development] Firewatir Question In-Reply-To: References: <90155781-F896-4A7A-95A3-520A9B451AE5@ferroni.net> Message-ID: <373739.17117.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You might want to put some sleeps after closed. FF process in memory is still running -- vm is doing garbage cleaning. ________________________________ From: Angrez Singh To: Cameron Ferroni ; Watir development ; watir-general at googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2009 9:20:52 PM Subject: Re: [Wtr-development] Firewatir Question Posting it to watir-general, & watir-development mailing list also. may be someone has an idea on how to go about? - Angrez On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Cameron Ferroni wrote: Hey Angrez - thanks for the great work on firewatir - I have it up and running as part of scrubyt, and am loving it. Running into one problem though (perhaps manifested in a couple of different ways) and I was wondering if you might have some suggestions. Basically what's happening is that there seems to be a bit of a memory leak in firefox, and so when I use scrubyt/firewatir to scrape a lot of web pages, everything kind of hangs up. What I'd like to do is restart firefox from within my ruby script so that I can flush it every 100 pages or so, but that doesn't seem to work. I tried something like the following just as a test: ff = FireWatir::Firefox.new ff.goto 'http://www.yahoo.com' sleep 3 ff.close puts('Closed') ff = FireWatir::Firefox.new ff.goto 'http://www.yahoo.com' sleep 3 ff.close puts('Closed') But it hangs up in various ways - sometimes because firefox puts up the dialog that you can't have 2 windows running at once, sometimes for other reasons. I suppose I could figure out how to exec out and actually start/kill the firefox -jssh processes, but that seems tricky. 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Comments? >> >> Bret >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Daniel Berger >> Date: Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:39 PM >> Subject: Re: Fixing Watir Problem, was Re: Watir is acting retarded >> To: ruby-talk ML >> >> >> On Feb 5, 6:38 pm, Bret Pettichord wrote: >> > [Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.] >> > >> > Daniel, >> > >> > Should we release a new Watir gem installer that requires these updated >> > files? >> >> Wouldn't hurt I suppose. It would probably be less confusing. >> >> Sorry for the trouble. >> >> Regards, >> >> Dan >> >> > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Daniel Waite >> wrote: >> > > Daniel Berger wrote: >> > > > Yep, you want this combination: >> > >> > > > win32-api 1.3.0 or later >> > > > windows-api 0.3.0 or later >> > > > windows-pr 0.9.9 or later >> > >> > > Duly noted. Installing Watir installed all those things (plus a few >> > > other gems). However, I have two versions of windows-pr: 0.9.3 and >> > > 0.9.9. My guess is that Watir installed 0.9.3. Thanks for the summary. >> > > :) >> > > -- >> > > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/. >> > >> > -- >> > Bret Pettichord >> > GTalk: bpettich... at gmail.com >> > CTO, WatirCraft LLC,http://www.watircraft.com >> > Lead Developer, Watir,http://wtr.rubyforge.org >> > Blog (Essays),http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog >> > MiniBlog (Links),http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Bret Pettichord >> GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com >> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com >> Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org >> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog >> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wtr-development mailing list >> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > -- Bret Pettichord GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marekj.com at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 13:02:04 2009 From: marekj.com at gmail.com (marekj) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:02:04 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] fixing xml results file display in firefox Message-ID: Yes, the xml files look as plain text in firefox. I downloaded one of them locally to the dir along the xls file and when accessed from my machine locally the xml displays nice like in IE. It may be a mime type Looks like server returns Content-Type: text/plain looking at this FAQ https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XSL_Transformations_in_Mozilla_FAQ I think it should return text/xml (I may be wrong but it's a thread of thought) HTTP/1.x 200 OK Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:39:10 GMT Status: 200 OK Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Cache-Control: private content-disposition: inline; filename="TEST-IOStringTests.xml" Server: Mongrel 1.1.5 Content-Type: text/plain Proxy-Connection: close Age: 0 marekj Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ From bret at pettichord.com Tue Feb 17 13:58:21 2009 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:58:21 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] fixing xml results file display in firefox In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: i think that is right. looking here, we see mongrel (the server we use) doesn't support text/xml by default. need to fix this. http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/wiki/HOWTO bret On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:02 PM, marekj wrote: > Yes, the xml files look as plain text in firefox. > I downloaded one of them locally to the dir along the xls file and > when accessed from my machine locally the xml displays nice like in > IE. > It may be a mime type > Looks like server returns Content-Type: text/plain > looking at this FAQ > https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XSL_Transformations_in_Mozilla_FAQ > I think it should return text/xml > (I may be wrong but it's a thread of thought) > > HTTP/1.x 200 OK > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:39:10 GMT > Status: 200 OK > Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary > Cache-Control: private > content-disposition: inline; filename="TEST-IOStringTests.xml" > Server: Mongrel 1.1.5 > Content-Type: text/plain > Proxy-Connection: close > Age: 0 > > > > marekj > > Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases > Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing > http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > -- Bret Pettichord GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bret at pettichord.com Wed Feb 18 17:36:38 2009 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:36:38 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] git on windows Message-ID: for those of you who want to learn to use git... http://nathanj.github.com/gitguide/tour.html http://gitcasts.com/posts/git-on-windows http://www.slideshare.net/testrus/git-on-windows-plain-introduction -- Bret Pettichord GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marekj.com at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 18:12:13 2009 From: marekj.com at gmail.com (marekj) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:12:13 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] git on windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for including my silly slides I think it was useful for me to start with git bash. I recommend sticking to command line and then going to GUI. Anyway for me me using GUI is easier now knowing what's going on under the hood. The main thing for me was to get the conceptually the 3 spaces 'working dir' , 'index' and 'repo', the whole idea of DAG rather than Delta and the 4 objects: Blob, Tree, Commit and Tag. Everything else is building finger memory. If anybody has any issue I'll be glad to share my setup and make more slides on using GUI too. Thanks marekj Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Bret Pettichord wrote: > for those of you who want to learn to use git... > > http://nathanj.github.com/gitguide/tour.html > > http://gitcasts.com/posts/git-on-windows > > http://www.slideshare.net/testrus/git-on-windows-plain-introduction > > -- > Bret Pettichord > GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com > CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com > Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com > Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog > MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist > Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > From marekj.com at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 23:26:25 2009 From: marekj.com at gmail.com (marekj) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:26:25 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] git on windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ... and I was inspired to make a 10 minute screencast (no voice) showing Git GUI on windows. this is my first ever screencast and I captured too large of an area so please watch full screen if you can. I will make another video showing cloning Watir to your windows machine. This will be fun. Do notice I say "Hello Watir Champions" in the screencast http://www.viddler.com/explore/testrus/videos/1/ thanks marekj Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Bret Pettichord wrote: > for those of you who want to learn to use git... > > http://nathanj.github.com/gitguide/tour.html > > http://gitcasts.com/posts/git-on-windows > > http://www.slideshare.net/testrus/git-on-windows-plain-introduction > > -- > Bret Pettichord > GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com > CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com > Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com > Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog > MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist > Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > From mellissa.mcconnell at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 13:33:44 2009 From: mellissa.mcconnell at gmail.com (Mellissa McConnell) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:33:44 -0800 Subject: [Wtr-development] git on windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57e2f4f60902191033m2cc4482fxb83b0d5f968caa79@mail.gmail.com> Awesome, thanks Bret! On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Bret Pettichord wrote: > for those of you who want to learn to use git... > > http://nathanj.github.com/gitguide/tour.html > > http://gitcasts.com/posts/git-on-windows > > http://www.slideshare.net/testrus/git-on-windows-plain-introduction > > -- > Bret Pettichord > GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com > CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com > Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com > Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog > MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist > Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > -- Cheers, Mellissa McConnell 206-359-0734 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marekj.com at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 15:37:24 2009 From: marekj.com at gmail.com (marekj) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:37:24 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] git on windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: and another Git on Windows screencast showing working with git gui and git bash together doing some branching and merging and resolving conflicts with kdiff3. (I find it useful for myself to go through it. it's fun to do those screencasts). http://www.viddler.com/explore/testrus/videos/2/ marekj Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:26 PM, marekj wrote: > ... and I was inspired to make a 10 minute screencast (no voice) > showing Git GUI on windows. > this is my first ever screencast and I captured too large of an area so > please watch full screen if you can. I will make another video showing > cloning Watir to your windows machine. This will be fun. > Do notice I say "Hello Watir Champions" in the screencast > > http://www.viddler.com/explore/testrus/videos/1/ > > thanks > > marekj > > Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases > Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing > http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Bret Pettichord wrote: >> for those of you who want to learn to use git... >> >> http://nathanj.github.com/gitguide/tour.html >> >> http://gitcasts.com/posts/git-on-windows >> >> http://www.slideshare.net/testrus/git-on-windows-plain-introduction >> >> -- >> Bret Pettichord >> GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com >> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com >> Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com >> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog >> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist >> Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wtr-development mailing list >> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >> > From bret at pettichord.com Mon Feb 23 11:08:21 2009 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:08:21 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] git on windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Marekj, How did you create these videos? What tool did you use? Bret On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:37 PM, marekj wrote: > and another Git on Windows screencast showing working with git gui and > git bash together doing some branching and merging and resolving > conflicts with kdiff3. (I find it useful for myself to go through it. > it's fun to do those screencasts). > > http://www.viddler.com/explore/testrus/videos/2/ > > > marekj > > Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases > Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing > http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ > > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:26 PM, marekj wrote: > > ... and I was inspired to make a 10 minute screencast (no voice) > > showing Git GUI on windows. > > this is my first ever screencast and I captured too large of an area so > > please watch full screen if you can. I will make another video showing > > cloning Watir to your windows machine. This will be fun. > > Do notice I say "Hello Watir Champions" in the screencast > > > > http://www.viddler.com/explore/testrus/videos/1/ > > > > thanks > > > > marekj > > > > Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases > > Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing > > http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Bret Pettichord > wrote: > >> for those of you who want to learn to use git... > >> > >> http://nathanj.github.com/gitguide/tour.html > >> > >> http://gitcasts.com/posts/git-on-windows > >> > >> http://www.slideshare.net/testrus/git-on-windows-plain-introduction > >> > >> -- > >> Bret Pettichord > >> GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com > >> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com > >> Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com > >> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog > >> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist > >> Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wtr-development mailing list > >> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > -- Bret Pettichord GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.rogers at shaw.ca Mon Feb 23 12:42:48 2009 From: paul.rogers at shaw.ca (Paul Rogers) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:42:48 -0700 Subject: [Wtr-development] git on windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: on a mac ishowu is really good, and cheap On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Bret Pettichord wrote: > Marekj, > > How did you create these videos? What tool did you use? > > Bret > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:37 PM, marekj wrote: > >> and another Git on Windows screencast showing working with git gui and >> git bash together doing some branching and merging and resolving >> conflicts with kdiff3. (I find it useful for myself to go through it. >> it's fun to do those screencasts). >> >> http://www.viddler.com/explore/testrus/videos/2/ >> >> >> marekj >> >> Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases >> Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing >> http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:26 PM, marekj wrote: >> > ... and I was inspired to make a 10 minute screencast (no voice) >> > showing Git GUI on windows. >> > this is my first ever screencast and I captured too large of an area so >> > please watch full screen if you can. I will make another video showing >> > cloning Watir to your windows machine. This will be fun. >> > Do notice I say "Hello Watir Champions" in the screencast >> > >> > http://www.viddler.com/explore/testrus/videos/1/ >> > >> > thanks >> > >> > marekj >> > >> > Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases >> > Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing >> > http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Bret Pettichord >> wrote: >> >> for those of you who want to learn to use git... >> >> >> >> http://nathanj.github.com/gitguide/tour.html >> >> >> >> http://gitcasts.com/posts/git-on-windows >> >> >> >> http://www.slideshare.net/testrus/git-on-windows-plain-introduction >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Bret Pettichord >> >> GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com >> >> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com >> >> Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com >> >> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog >> >> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist >> >> Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wtr-development mailing list >> >> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >> >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Wtr-development mailing list >> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >> > > > > -- > Bret Pettichord > GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com > CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com > Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com > Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog > MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist > Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > -- Paul Rogers! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marekj.com at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 15:17:32 2009 From: marekj.com at gmail.com (marekj) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:17:32 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] git on windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Windows I downloaded Windows Encoder (free). Both for 64 bit and 32bit. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/forpros/encoder/default.mspx It has a screencapture configuration that encodes a small file. Default compression is set to 259kbs and 15 frames, but I think I would go full 30 frames and 1Mbps as I've seen recommended somewhere. I'll try to up the quality and see it it bloats up the file. On Mac iShowU sounds good (as Paul points out) On Linux Ubuntu???? Don't know yet but I would like a recommendation because I want to do some Watir and Firewatir screencasts. Thanks marekj Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Bret Pettichord wrote: > Marekj, > > How did you create these videos? What tool did you use? > > Bret > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:37 PM, marekj wrote: >> >> and another Git on Windows screencast showing working with git gui and >> git bash together doing some branching and merging and resolving >> conflicts with kdiff3. (I find it useful for myself to go through it. >> it's fun to do those screencasts). >> >> http://www.viddler.com/explore/testrus/videos/2/ >> >> >> marekj >> >> Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases >> Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing >> http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:26 PM, marekj wrote: >> > ... and I was inspired to make a 10 minute screencast (no voice) >> > showing Git GUI on windows. >> > this is my first ever screencast and I captured too large of an area so >> > please watch full screen if you can. I will make another video showing >> > cloning Watir to your windows machine. This will be fun. >> > Do notice I say "Hello Watir Champions" in the screencast >> > >> > http://www.viddler.com/explore/testrus/videos/1/ >> > >> > thanks >> > >> > marekj >> > >> > Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases >> > Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing >> > http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Bret Pettichord >> > wrote: >> >> for those of you who want to learn to use git... >> >> >> >> http://nathanj.github.com/gitguide/tour.html >> >> >> >> http://gitcasts.com/posts/git-on-windows >> >> >> >> http://www.slideshare.net/testrus/git-on-windows-plain-introduction >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Bret Pettichord >> >> GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com >> >> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com >> >> Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com >> >> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog >> >> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist >> >> Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wtr-development mailing list >> >> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >> >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Wtr-development mailing list >> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > > > > -- > Bret Pettichord > GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com > CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com > Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com > Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog > MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist > Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > From welkin_inc at hotmail.com Mon Feb 2 17:35:43 2009 From: welkin_inc at hotmail.com (Andrew McFarlane) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:35:43 -0700 Subject: [Wtr-development] More XPath speed thoughts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Back in December, I wondered aloud if I could speed up finding a control via XPath by accessing ie's msxml process. 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Ken On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Tim Koopmans wrote: > Ec2 has win2k3 and it's perfectly viable for GUI automation or load > testing. I'm using it for the latter. > > Regards, > Tim > > Sent from my mobile... > > > On 31/01/2009, at 2:57, Paul Rogers wrote: > > do you have any links to what guis are available on ec2. I know >> windows server is available, burt my understanding is that it doesnt >> give you the windows desktop. I guess under linux you could run >> something like virtual box in headless mode and remote desktop in, but >> I think it would be unusable from the client because of the speed. >> >> Paul >> >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Andrew McFarlane >> wrote: >> >>> EC2 allows you to use a GUI. It also now allows you to use a Windows >>> image. I see that people are doing cross-browser testing on EC2, so why >>> not >>> do automated load tests that way? The app that I am testing is too >>> complicated to model using a simulated browser tool like Jmeter. >>> >>> I'm headed down this path--I'll let you know how it goes. >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:02:10 -0700 >>>> From: paul.rogers at shaw.ca >>>> To: wtr-development at rubyforge.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Wtr-development] (no subject) >>>> >>>> ec2 only gives you a linux machine with no gui. Use a load testing >>>> tool like jmeter >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Andrew McFarlane >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Has anyone thought about using Watir to do load testing using EC2 or >>>>> something similar to Selenium Grid? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Andrew >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> Windows Live? Hotmail(R):?more than just e-mail. 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On 04/02/2009, at 5:02, Kenneth De Souza wrote: > We have been experimenting with Celerity (see http://celerity.rubyforge.org/ > ) to see if we can do performance testing with it. > > The nice thing about Celerity is that its 'headless', so it can run > at console; you also don't need IE to run it. > > We have taken a few of our scripts and made them 'somewhat' > compatible with both Celerity and Watir. > > So, in theory, you should be able to use the EC2 console interface > to drive the tests using your Watir scripts and Celerity on the > Amazon EC2 end. > > The assumption is that you can get Celerity/JRuby on the EC2 > platform. Does anyone know if this is possible? > > Ken > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Tim Koopmans > wrote: > Ec2 has win2k3 and it's perfectly viable for GUI automation or > load testing. I'm using it for the latter. > > Regards, > Tim > > Sent from my mobile... > > > On 31/01/2009, at 2:57, Paul Rogers wrote: > > do you have any links to what guis are available on ec2. I know > windows server is available, burt my understanding is that it doesnt > give you the windows desktop. I guess under linux you could run > something like virtual box in headless mode and remote desktop in, but > I think it would be unusable from the client because of the speed. > > Paul > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Andrew McFarlane > wrote: > EC2 allows you to use a GUI. It also now allows you to use a Windows > image. I see that people are doing cross-browser testing on EC2, so > why not > do automated load tests that way? The app that I am testing is too > complicated to model using a simulated browser tool like Jmeter. > > I'm headed down this path--I'll let you know how it goes. > > Andrew > > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:02:10 -0700 > From: paul.rogers at shaw.ca > To: wtr-development at rubyforge.org > Subject: Re: [Wtr-development] (no subject) > > ec2 only gives you a linux machine with no gui. Use a load testing > tool like jmeter > > Paul > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Andrew McFarlane > wrote: > Has anyone thought about using Watir to do load testing using EC2 or > something similar to Selenium Grid? > > Thanks. > > Andrew > > ________________________________ > Windows Live? Hotmail(R):?more than just e-mail. 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URL: From aidy.lewis at googlemail.com Wed Feb 4 09:37:14 2009 From: aidy.lewis at googlemail.com (aidy lewis) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:37:14 +0000 Subject: [Wtr-development] WatirCraft Framework In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7ac2300c0902040637w7504b68dx528d358f26a4554e@mail.gmail.com> Hi Bret, Do we have any working examples except for the Rspec specs? Aidy 2009/2/3 Bret Pettichord : > I've been quietly working on a new testing framework for Watir users. It is > called WatirCraft and you can find out more about it here. > http://bpettichord.backpackit.com/pub/1648993 > > There are actually several of us working on testing frameworks for Watir: > Taza, Rasta, Watirloo. We have a mailing list and you all are welcome to > join us and learn more about what we are doing. > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/watir-framework/ > > Bret > > -- > Bret Pettichord > GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com > CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com > Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org > Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog > MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > From bret at pettichord.com Wed Feb 4 10:22:02 2009 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:22:02 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] WatirCraft Framework In-Reply-To: <7ac2300c0902040637w7504b68dx528d358f26a4554e@mail.gmail.com> References: <7ac2300c0902040637w7504b68dx528d358f26a4554e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: We have several working examples. We have examples of using both rspec and cucumber style tests within the WatirCraft framework (as well as separately). And the framework examples also has examples that use Rasta. Bret On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:37 AM, aidy lewis wrote: > Hi Bret, > > Do we have any working examples except for the Rspec specs? > > Aidy > > 2009/2/3 Bret Pettichord : > > I've been quietly working on a new testing framework for Watir users. It > is > > called WatirCraft and you can find out more about it here. > > http://bpettichord.backpackit.com/pub/1648993 > > > > There are actually several of us working on testing frameworks for Watir: > > Taza, Rasta, Watirloo. We have a mailing list and you all are welcome to > > join us and learn more about what we are doing. > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/watir-framework/ > > > > Bret > > > > -- > > Bret Pettichord > > GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com > > CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com > > Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org > > Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog > > MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wtr-development mailing list > > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > -- Bret Pettichord GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.rogers at shaw.ca Thu Feb 5 16:27:20 2009 From: paul.rogers at shaw.ca (Paul Rogers) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:27:20 -0700 Subject: [Wtr-development] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I tried out an image yesterday, and after a few problems Im really happy with it. I think if its left on all the time its about $70 a month. My main driver was to have an ip outside of my office range, but having set up an image that is reasonably fast to use I can see other uses for it too. We use a service called RightScale which is some add ons to ec2 for scaling, which may also be a help Paul On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Tim Koopmans wrote: > Ec2 has win2k3 and it's perfectly viable for GUI automation or load > testing. I'm using it for the latter. > > Regards, > Tim > > Sent from my mobile... > > On 31/01/2009, at 2:57, Paul Rogers wrote: > >> do you have any links to what guis are available on ec2. I know >> windows server is available, burt my understanding is that it doesnt >> give you the windows desktop. I guess under linux you could run >> something like virtual box in headless mode and remote desktop in, but >> I think it would be unusable from the client because of the speed. >> >> Paul >> >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Andrew McFarlane >> wrote: >>> >>> EC2 allows you to use a GUI. It also now allows you to use a Windows >>> image. I see that people are doing cross-browser testing on EC2, so why >>> not >>> do automated load tests that way? The app that I am testing is too >>> complicated to model using a simulated browser tool like Jmeter. >>> >>> I'm headed down this path--I'll let you know how it goes. >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>>> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:02:10 -0700 >>>> From: paul.rogers at shaw.ca >>>> To: wtr-development at rubyforge.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Wtr-development] (no subject) >>>> >>>> ec2 only gives you a linux machine with no gui. Use a load testing >>>> tool like jmeter >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Andrew McFarlane >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone thought about using Watir to do load testing using EC2 or >>>>> something similar to Selenium Grid? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Andrew >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> Windows Live? Hotmail(R):?more than just e-mail. Check it out. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wtr-development mailing list >>>>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wtr-development mailing list >>>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> Hotmail(R) goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. See >>> how. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wtr-development mailing list >>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wtr-development mailing list >> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development From bpettichord at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 01:55:53 2009 From: bpettichord at gmail.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 00:55:53 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] Fwd: Fixing Watir Problem, was Re: Watir is acting retarded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One idea. Comments? Bret ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Daniel Berger Date: Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:39 PM Subject: Re: Fixing Watir Problem, was Re: Watir is acting retarded To: ruby-talk ML On Feb 5, 6:38 pm, Bret Pettichord wrote: > [Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.] > > Daniel, > > Should we release a new Watir gem installer that requires these updated > files? Wouldn't hurt I suppose. It would probably be less confusing. Sorry for the trouble. Regards, Dan > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Daniel Waite wrote: > > Daniel Berger wrote: > > > Yep, you want this combination: > > > > win32-api 1.3.0 or later > > > windows-api 0.3.0 or later > > > windows-pr 0.9.9 or later > > > Duly noted. Installing Watir installed all those things (plus a few > > other gems). However, I have two versions of windows-pr: 0.9.3 and > > 0.9.9. My guess is that Watir installed 0.9.3. Thanks for the summary. > > :) > > -- > > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > -- > Bret Pettichord > GTalk: bpettich... at gmail.com > CTO, WatirCraft LLC,http://www.watircraft.com > Lead Developer, Watir,http://wtr.rubyforge.org > Blog (Essays),http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog > MiniBlog (Links),http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist -- Bret Pettichord GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Comments? > > Bret > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Daniel Berger > Date: Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:39 PM > Subject: Re: Fixing Watir Problem, was Re: Watir is acting retarded > To: ruby-talk ML > > > On Feb 5, 6:38 pm, Bret Pettichord wrote: > > [Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.] > > > > Daniel, > > > > Should we release a new Watir gem installer that requires these updated > > files? > > Wouldn't hurt I suppose. It would probably be less confusing. > > Sorry for the trouble. > > Regards, > > Dan > > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Daniel Waite > wrote: > > > Daniel Berger wrote: > > > > Yep, you want this combination: > > > > > > win32-api 1.3.0 or later > > > > windows-api 0.3.0 or later > > > > windows-pr 0.9.9 or later > > > > > Duly noted. Installing Watir installed all those things (plus a few > > > other gems). However, I have two versions of windows-pr: 0.9.3 and > > > 0.9.9. My guess is that Watir installed 0.9.3. 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URL: From bret at pettichord.com Mon Feb 9 00:11:09 2009 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 23:11:09 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir on Github Message-ID: http://github.com/bret/watir/tree/master I would like us to start using this as our code base effective immediately. If you don't know git and want to work on the watir (firewatir, etc) code base, please install and and learn it. Questions? Ask. If you want to work on Watir and don't have commit rights, it doesn't matter. You can fork the code on github, create your own repository, push your changes to it, and then send us a pull request. This is much much easier than messing with patches. Not sure if we'll have lots of people pushing to the central repository (as we did with SVN) or whether we'll have pull requests, with someone pulling. Probably some of both. Recent committers have been: Angrez, Charley, Jim, Jarib, Me. If you would rather push directly to this repo, please let me know. I've already given Charley rights to do this. My goal is not to shut anybody out. I'll need to know your github username. If you have been an old-time committer to Watir, and are thinking of commiting again. Or if you are working on a side project that isn't ready to committed yet. (yes you, Paul). Then you should create a public fork and then work on your code to your hearts content. We can watch and maybe even help you out. And someday, one of us (any of us) can decide its time to merge and just do it. There is actually another way to use git and github that charley and i discussed at length. We would put the code under "watir/watir" (instead of "bret/watir") and then everyone would commit to that. The main reason i wanted to use git is to make it easier for us to scale up to get contributions from more people. To me, this method makes it clearer to outsiders who owns a repository. And if it's not me, fine. BTW, did you all notice that SafariWatir moved to github last week? 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Running into one problem > though (perhaps manifested in a couple of different ways) and I was > wondering if you might have some suggestions. > Basically what's happening is that there seems to be a bit of a memory leak > in firefox, and so when I use scrubyt/firewatir to scrape a lot of web > pages, everything kind of hangs up. What I'd like to do is restart firefox > from within my ruby script so that I can flush it every 100 pages or so, but > that doesn't seem to work. I tried something like the following just as a > test: > > ff = FireWatir::Firefox.new > ff.goto 'http://www.yahoo.com' > sleep 3 > ff.close > puts('Closed') > ff = FireWatir::Firefox.new > ff.goto 'http://www.yahoo.com' > sleep 3 > ff.close > puts('Closed') > > But it hangs up in various ways - sometimes because firefox puts up the > dialog that you can't have 2 windows running at once, sometimes for other > reasons. I suppose I could figure out how to exec out and actually > start/kill the firefox -jssh processes, but that seems tricky. > > Anyway, if there is an approved way to do this, that would be great. > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > -Cam > > http://www.cameronferroni.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com Mon Feb 9 03:49:19 2009 From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:49:19 +0100 Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir on Github In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Now we have to record a 5-10 minute podcast about moving to git. :) But really, I think we should do it. ?eljko -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From welkin_inc at hotmail.com Mon Feb 9 10:36:58 2009 From: welkin_inc at hotmail.com (Andrew McFarlane) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:36:58 -0700 Subject: [Wtr-development] Firewatir Question In-Reply-To: References: <90155781-F896-4A7A-95A3-520A9B451AE5@ferroni.net> Message-ID: This isn't 100% foolproof, and it is a bit drastic, but it's all I can think of... require 'win32ole' .... ff.close sleep 5 # Make sure it's really gone. wmi = WIN32OLE.connect("winmgmts://") processes = wmi.ExecQuery("select * from win32_process where commandline like '%firefox%'") processes.each do |process| Process.kill('KILL', process.ProcessID) end Andrew Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:50:52 +0530 From: angrez at gmail.com To: cam at ferroni.net; wtr-development at rubyforge.org; watir-general at googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Wtr-development] Firewatir Question Posting it to watir-general, & watir-development mailing list also. may be someone has an idea on how to go about? - Angrez On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Cameron Ferroni wrote: Hey Angrez - thanks for the great work on firewatir - I have it up and running as part of scrubyt, and am loving it. Running into one problem though (perhaps manifested in a couple of different ways) and I was wondering if you might have some suggestions. Basically what's happening is that there seems to be a bit of a memory leak in firefox, and so when I use scrubyt/firewatir to scrape a lot of web pages, everything kind of hangs up. What I'd like to do is restart firefox from within my ruby script so that I can flush it every 100 pages or so, but that doesn't seem to work. I tried something like the following just as a test: ff = FireWatir::Firefox.new ff.goto 'http://www.yahoo.com' sleep 3 ff.close puts('Closed') ff = FireWatir::Firefox.new ff.goto 'http://www.yahoo.com' sleep 3 ff.close puts('Closed') But it hangs up in various ways - sometimes because firefox puts up the dialog that you can't have 2 windows running at once, sometimes for other reasons. I suppose I could figure out how to exec out and actually start/kill the firefox -jssh processes, but that seems tricky. Anyway, if there is an approved way to do this, that would be great. Any suggestions appreciated. -Cam http://www.cameronferroni.com _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_022009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bret at pettichord.com Mon Feb 9 12:23:19 2009 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:23:19 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir on Github In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sure. Any time. Bret On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:49 AM, ?eljko Filipin wrote: > Now we have to record a 5-10 minute podcast about moving to git. :) > > But really, I think we should do it. > > ?eljko > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > -- Bret Pettichord GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Running into one problem though (perhaps manifested in a couple of different ways) and I was wondering if you might have some suggestions. Basically what's happening is that there seems to be a bit of a memory leak in firefox, and so when I use scrubyt/firewatir to scrape a lot of web pages, everything kind of hangs up. What I'd like to do is restart firefox from within my ruby script so that I can flush it every 100 pages or so, but that doesn't seem to work. I tried something like the following just as a test: ff = FireWatir::Firefox.new ff.goto 'http://www.yahoo.com' sleep 3 ff.close puts('Closed') ff = FireWatir::Firefox.new ff.goto 'http://www.yahoo.com' sleep 3 ff.close puts('Closed') But it hangs up in various ways - sometimes because firefox puts up the dialog that you can't have 2 windows running at once, sometimes for other reasons. I suppose I could figure out how to exec out and actually start/kill the firefox -jssh processes, but that seems tricky. 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Comments? >> >> Bret >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Daniel Berger >> Date: Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:39 PM >> Subject: Re: Fixing Watir Problem, was Re: Watir is acting retarded >> To: ruby-talk ML >> >> >> On Feb 5, 6:38 pm, Bret Pettichord wrote: >> > [Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.] >> > >> > Daniel, >> > >> > Should we release a new Watir gem installer that requires these updated >> > files? >> >> Wouldn't hurt I suppose. It would probably be less confusing. >> >> Sorry for the trouble. >> >> Regards, >> >> Dan >> >> > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Daniel Waite >> wrote: >> > > Daniel Berger wrote: >> > > > Yep, you want this combination: >> > >> > > > win32-api 1.3.0 or later >> > > > windows-api 0.3.0 or later >> > > > windows-pr 0.9.9 or later >> > >> > > Duly noted. Installing Watir installed all those things (plus a few >> > > other gems). However, I have two versions of windows-pr: 0.9.3 and >> > > 0.9.9. My guess is that Watir installed 0.9.3. Thanks for the summary. >> > > :) >> > > -- >> > > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/. >> > >> > -- >> > Bret Pettichord >> > GTalk: bpettich... at gmail.com >> > CTO, WatirCraft LLC,http://www.watircraft.com >> > Lead Developer, Watir,http://wtr.rubyforge.org >> > Blog (Essays),http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog >> > MiniBlog (Links),http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Bret Pettichord >> GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com >> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com >> Lead Developer, Watir, http://wtr.rubyforge.org >> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog >> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wtr-development mailing list >> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > -- Bret Pettichord GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It may be a mime type Looks like server returns Content-Type: text/plain looking at this FAQ https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XSL_Transformations_in_Mozilla_FAQ I think it should return text/xml (I may be wrong but it's a thread of thought) HTTP/1.x 200 OK Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:39:10 GMT Status: 200 OK Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Cache-Control: private content-disposition: inline; filename="TEST-IOStringTests.xml" Server: Mongrel 1.1.5 Content-Type: text/plain Proxy-Connection: close Age: 0 marekj Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ From bret at pettichord.com Tue Feb 17 13:58:21 2009 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:58:21 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] fixing xml results file display in firefox In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: i think that is right. looking here, we see mongrel (the server we use) doesn't support text/xml by default. need to fix this. http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/wiki/HOWTO bret On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:02 PM, marekj wrote: > Yes, the xml files look as plain text in firefox. > I downloaded one of them locally to the dir along the xls file and > when accessed from my machine locally the xml displays nice like in > IE. > It may be a mime type > Looks like server returns Content-Type: text/plain > looking at this FAQ > https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XSL_Transformations_in_Mozilla_FAQ > I think it should return text/xml > (I may be wrong but it's a thread of thought) > > HTTP/1.x 200 OK > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:39:10 GMT > Status: 200 OK > Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary > Cache-Control: private > content-disposition: inline; filename="TEST-IOStringTests.xml" > Server: Mongrel 1.1.5 > Content-Type: text/plain > Proxy-Connection: close > Age: 0 > > > > marekj > > Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases > Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing > http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > -- Bret Pettichord GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From marekj.com at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 18:12:13 2009 From: marekj.com at gmail.com (marekj) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:12:13 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] git on windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for including my silly slides I think it was useful for me to start with git bash. I recommend sticking to command line and then going to GUI. Anyway for me me using GUI is easier now knowing what's going on under the hood. The main thing for me was to get the conceptually the 3 spaces 'working dir' , 'index' and 'repo', the whole idea of DAG rather than Delta and the 4 objects: Blob, Tree, Commit and Tag. Everything else is building finger memory. If anybody has any issue I'll be glad to share my setup and make more slides on using GUI too. Thanks marekj Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Bret Pettichord wrote: > for those of you who want to learn to use git... > > http://nathanj.github.com/gitguide/tour.html > > http://gitcasts.com/posts/git-on-windows > > http://www.slideshare.net/testrus/git-on-windows-plain-introduction > > -- > Bret Pettichord > GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com > CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com > Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com > Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog > MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist > Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > From marekj.com at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 23:26:25 2009 From: marekj.com at gmail.com (marekj) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:26:25 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] git on windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ... and I was inspired to make a 10 minute screencast (no voice) showing Git GUI on windows. this is my first ever screencast and I captured too large of an area so please watch full screen if you can. I will make another video showing cloning Watir to your windows machine. This will be fun. Do notice I say "Hello Watir Champions" in the screencast http://www.viddler.com/explore/testrus/videos/1/ thanks marekj Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Bret Pettichord wrote: > for those of you who want to learn to use git... > > http://nathanj.github.com/gitguide/tour.html > > http://gitcasts.com/posts/git-on-windows > > http://www.slideshare.net/testrus/git-on-windows-plain-introduction > > -- > Bret Pettichord > GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com > CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com > Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com > Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog > MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist > Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > From mellissa.mcconnell at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 13:33:44 2009 From: mellissa.mcconnell at gmail.com (Mellissa McConnell) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:33:44 -0800 Subject: [Wtr-development] git on windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57e2f4f60902191033m2cc4482fxb83b0d5f968caa79@mail.gmail.com> Awesome, thanks Bret! On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Bret Pettichord wrote: > for those of you who want to learn to use git... > > http://nathanj.github.com/gitguide/tour.html > > http://gitcasts.com/posts/git-on-windows > > http://www.slideshare.net/testrus/git-on-windows-plain-introduction > > -- > Bret Pettichord > GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com > CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com > Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com > Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog > MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist > Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > -- Cheers, Mellissa McConnell 206-359-0734 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This will be fun. > Do notice I say "Hello Watir Champions" in the screencast > > http://www.viddler.com/explore/testrus/videos/1/ > > thanks > > marekj > > Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases > Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing > http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Bret Pettichord wrote: >> for those of you who want to learn to use git... >> >> http://nathanj.github.com/gitguide/tour.html >> >> http://gitcasts.com/posts/git-on-windows >> >> http://www.slideshare.net/testrus/git-on-windows-plain-introduction >> >> -- >> Bret Pettichord >> GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com >> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com >> Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com >> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog >> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist >> Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wtr-development mailing list >> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >> > From bret at pettichord.com Mon Feb 23 11:08:21 2009 From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:08:21 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] git on windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Marekj, How did you create these videos? What tool did you use? Bret On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:37 PM, marekj wrote: > and another Git on Windows screencast showing working with git gui and > git bash together doing some branching and merging and resolving > conflicts with kdiff3. (I find it useful for myself to go through it. > it's fun to do those screencasts). > > http://www.viddler.com/explore/testrus/videos/2/ > > > marekj > > Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases > Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing > http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ > > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:26 PM, marekj wrote: > > ... and I was inspired to make a 10 minute screencast (no voice) > > showing Git GUI on windows. > > this is my first ever screencast and I captured too large of an area so > > please watch full screen if you can. I will make another video showing > > cloning Watir to your windows machine. This will be fun. > > Do notice I say "Hello Watir Champions" in the screencast > > > > http://www.viddler.com/explore/testrus/videos/1/ > > > > thanks > > > > marekj > > > > Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases > > Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing > > http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Bret Pettichord > wrote: > >> for those of you who want to learn to use git... > >> > >> http://nathanj.github.com/gitguide/tour.html > >> > >> http://gitcasts.com/posts/git-on-windows > >> > >> http://www.slideshare.net/testrus/git-on-windows-plain-introduction > >> > >> -- > >> Bret Pettichord > >> GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com > >> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com > >> Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com > >> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog > >> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist > >> Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wtr-development mailing list > >> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > -- Bret Pettichord GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.rogers at shaw.ca Mon Feb 23 12:42:48 2009 From: paul.rogers at shaw.ca (Paul Rogers) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:42:48 -0700 Subject: [Wtr-development] git on windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: on a mac ishowu is really good, and cheap On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Bret Pettichord wrote: > Marekj, > > How did you create these videos? What tool did you use? > > Bret > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:37 PM, marekj wrote: > >> and another Git on Windows screencast showing working with git gui and >> git bash together doing some branching and merging and resolving >> conflicts with kdiff3. (I find it useful for myself to go through it. >> it's fun to do those screencasts). >> >> http://www.viddler.com/explore/testrus/videos/2/ >> >> >> marekj >> >> Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases >> Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing >> http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:26 PM, marekj wrote: >> > ... and I was inspired to make a 10 minute screencast (no voice) >> > showing Git GUI on windows. >> > this is my first ever screencast and I captured too large of an area so >> > please watch full screen if you can. I will make another video showing >> > cloning Watir to your windows machine. This will be fun. >> > Do notice I say "Hello Watir Champions" in the screencast >> > >> > http://www.viddler.com/explore/testrus/videos/1/ >> > >> > thanks >> > >> > marekj >> > >> > Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases >> > Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing >> > http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Bret Pettichord >> wrote: >> >> for those of you who want to learn to use git... >> >> >> >> http://nathanj.github.com/gitguide/tour.html >> >> >> >> http://gitcasts.com/posts/git-on-windows >> >> >> >> http://www.slideshare.net/testrus/git-on-windows-plain-introduction >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Bret Pettichord >> >> GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com >> >> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com >> >> Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com >> >> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog >> >> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist >> >> Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wtr-development mailing list >> >> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >> >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Wtr-development mailing list >> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >> > > > > -- > Bret Pettichord > GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com > CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com > Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com > Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog > MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist > Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > -- Paul Rogers! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marekj.com at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 15:17:32 2009 From: marekj.com at gmail.com (marekj) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:17:32 -0600 Subject: [Wtr-development] git on windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Windows I downloaded Windows Encoder (free). Both for 64 bit and 32bit. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/forpros/encoder/default.mspx It has a screencapture configuration that encodes a small file. Default compression is set to 259kbs and 15 frames, but I think I would go full 30 frames and 1Mbps as I've seen recommended somewhere. I'll try to up the quality and see it it bloats up the file. On Mac iShowU sounds good (as Paul points out) On Linux Ubuntu???? Don't know yet but I would like a recommendation because I want to do some Watir and Firewatir screencasts. Thanks marekj Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Bret Pettichord wrote: > Marekj, > > How did you create these videos? What tool did you use? > > Bret > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:37 PM, marekj wrote: >> >> and another Git on Windows screencast showing working with git gui and >> git bash together doing some branching and merging and resolving >> conflicts with kdiff3. (I find it useful for myself to go through it. >> it's fun to do those screencasts). >> >> http://www.viddler.com/explore/testrus/videos/2/ >> >> >> marekj >> >> Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases >> Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing >> http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:26 PM, marekj wrote: >> > ... and I was inspired to make a 10 minute screencast (no voice) >> > showing Git GUI on windows. >> > this is my first ever screencast and I captured too large of an area so >> > please watch full screen if you can. I will make another video showing >> > cloning Watir to your windows machine. This will be fun. >> > Do notice I say "Hello Watir Champions" in the screencast >> > >> > http://www.viddler.com/explore/testrus/videos/1/ >> > >> > thanks >> > >> > marekj >> > >> > Watirloo: Semantic Page Objects in UseCases >> > Human Readable Machine Executable Acceptance Testing >> > http://github.com/marekj/watirloo/ >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Bret Pettichord >> > wrote: >> >> for those of you who want to learn to use git... >> >> >> >> http://nathanj.github.com/gitguide/tour.html >> >> >> >> http://gitcasts.com/posts/git-on-windows >> >> >> >> http://www.slideshare.net/testrus/git-on-windows-plain-introduction >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Bret Pettichord >> >> GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com >> >> CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com >> >> Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com >> >> Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog >> >> MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist >> >> Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wtr-development mailing list >> >> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >> >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Wtr-development mailing list >> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development > > > > -- > Bret Pettichord > GTalk: bpettichord at gmail.com > CTO, WatirCraft LLC, http://www.watircraft.com > Lead Developer, Watir, http://www.watir.com > Blog (Essays), http://www.io.com/~wazmo/blog > MiniBlog (Links), http://feeds.feedburner.com/bretshotlist > Training, http://www.watircraft.com/watir-training > > _______________________________________________ > Wtr-development mailing list > Wtr-development at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development >