From zeljko.filipin at wa-research.ch  Mon Jan  2 10:20:49 2012
From: zeljko.filipin at wa-research.ch (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:20:49 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] Selenium Conf '12
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On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>
wrote:
> +1

I have forwarded it to watir-general, since there was one +1, and nobody
said it was not a good idea.

?eljko
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From bret at pettichord.com  Mon Jan  2 17:15:48 2012
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:15:48 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] Contributors List
Message-ID: <CAPjkWY3dfabmdpo4s89JYR8VWmgwq-yEa3u_T5dLEQEvazBNbw@mail.gmail.com>

I am almost done with the application for the Watir project to join the
Software Freedom Conservancy. One thing that still needs to be done is to
complete this section. We're looking for a volunteer to help finish this
list. Github has the complete commit logs for the history of the project,
so all the information is there. Just needs to be teased out.

Any volunteers?

Bret

* Please list the names, email addresses, and affiliations (e.g., employer) of
key developers and major contributors.  Include both current and past
contributors and developers.  Please include date ranges of when those
developers/contributors were active.

Our current team page lists the most active contributors and developers for
Watir: http://watir.com/team/

More detailed information:
Bret Pettichord bret at pettichord.com - Director, Watir, workplace: Convio -
active: 2003-2011
Charley Baker charley.baker at gmail.com - Lead Developer, Watir, workplace:
self-employed active: 2005-2011
Angrez Singh angrez at gmail.com - Lead Developer, FireWatir, workplace:
Proteans Software Solutions Pvt. Ltd, active: 2005-2010
Jari Bakken jari.bakken at gmail.com - Contributor, Watir, Lead Developer,
Watir-Webdriver, workplace: Finntech.no, active 2008-2011
Jarmo Pertman jarmo.p at gmail.com - Developer, Watir, workplace:
active: 2010-2011
Zeljko Filipin zeljko.filipin at gmail.com, Community Manager, owner of
watirpodcast.com and testingpodcast.com, writing Watir book,
workplace: WA Research SA, active: 2005-2011
Alister Scott alister.scott at gmail.com, Web Master, Watir, workplace:
ThoughtWorks,
active: 2007-2011
Tiffany Fodor tcfodor at comcast.net, Community Support, workplace: self-employed,
active: 2007-2011
Paul Rogers paul.rogers at shaw.ca, Developer, Watir, workplace:
active: 2004-2008
Jonathan Kohl jonathan at kohl.ca, Documentation, Watir, workplace:
self-employed consultant,
active: 2004-2005
Dave Hoover dave at obtiva.com, Creator, SafariWatir, workplace: Obtiva,
active 2006-2009
Sai Venkatakrishnan saidesertrose2004 at gmail.com, Creator, ChromeWatir,
FlashWatir,
workplace: ThoughtWorks, active: 2008-2010

<<Would be good to go through the commit logs and see if there were
other frequent contributors over the years. Seems like there were
some, but maybe they were more than 5 years ago.>>


Please make this list as extensive and complete as possible.  You need not
include every last person who sent one patch, but please include at least those
who regularly sent patches or were/are regular contributors.  If you project has
contributors who have been inactive for more than five years, you need only to
list such inactive contributors if they made substantial contributions.




-- 
Bret Pettichord
Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com

Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
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From colinsdaddy at gmail.com  Mon Jan  2 17:48:49 2012
From: colinsdaddy at gmail.com (Hugh McGowan)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:48:49 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] Contributors List
In-Reply-To: <CAPjkWY3dfabmdpo4s89JYR8VWmgwq-yEa3u_T5dLEQEvazBNbw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPjkWY3dfabmdpo4s89JYR8VWmgwq-yEa3u_T5dLEQEvazBNbw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C9A3616E-B270-465E-B69E-310E2C022751@gmail.com>

Im happy to do this. 

Thanks!
Hugh

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 2, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com> wrote:

> I am almost done with the application for the Watir project to join the Software Freedom Conservancy. One thing that still needs to be done is to complete this section. We're looking for a volunteer to help finish this list. Github has the complete commit logs for the history of the project, so all the information is there. Just needs to be teased out.
> 
> Any volunteers?
> 
> Bret
> 
> * Please list the names, email addresses, and affiliations (e.g., employer) of
> 
> key developers and major contributors.  Include both current and past
> 
> contributors and developers.  Please include date ranges of when those
> 
> developers/contributors were active.
> 
> 
> 
> Our current team page lists the most active contributors and developers for 
> 
> Watir: http://watir.com/team/
> 
> 
> 
> More detailed information: 
> 
> Bret Pettichord bret at pettichord.com - Director, Watir, workplace: Convio - 
> 
> active: 2003-2011
> 
> Charley Baker charley.baker at gmail.com - Lead Developer, Watir, workplace: 
> 
> self-employed active: 2005-2011
> 
> Angrez Singh angrez at gmail.com - Lead Developer, FireWatir, workplace: 
> 
> Proteans Software Solutions Pvt. Ltd, active: 2005-2010
> 
> Jari Bakken jari.bakken at gmail.com - Contributor, Watir, Lead Developer,
> 
> Watir-Webdriver, workplace: Finntech.no, active 2008-2011
> 
> Jarmo Pertman jarmo.p at gmail.com - Developer, Watir, workplace: 
> 
> active: 2010-2011
> Zeljko Filipin zeljko.filipin at gmail.com, Community Manager, owner of 
> 
> watirpodcast.com and testingpodcast.com, writing Watir book, 
> 
> workplace: WA Research SA, active: 2005-2011
> 
> Alister Scott alister.scott at gmail.com, Web Master, Watir, workplace: ThoughtWorks,
> 
> active: 2007-2011
> 
> Tiffany Fodor tcfodor at comcast.net, Community Support, workplace: self-employed,
> 
> active: 2007-2011
> Paul Rogers paul.rogers at shaw.ca, Developer, Watir, workplace: 
> 
> active: 2004-2008
> 
> Jonathan Kohl jonathan at kohl.ca, Documentation, Watir, workplace: self-employed consultant, 
> 
> active: 2004-2005
> Dave Hoover dave at obtiva.com, Creator, SafariWatir, workplace: Obtiva, 
> 
> active 2006-2009
> 
> Sai Venkatakrishnan saidesertrose2004 at gmail.com, Creator, ChromeWatir, FlashWatir,
> 
> workplace: ThoughtWorks, active: 2008-2010
> 
> 
> 
> <<Would be good to go through the commit logs and see if there were other frequent contributors over the years. Seems like there were some, but maybe they were more than 5 years ago.>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please make this list as extensive and complete as possible.  You need not
> 
> include every last person who sent one patch, but please include at least those
> 
> who regularly sent patches or were/are regular contributors.  If you project has
> 
> contributors who have been inactive for more than five years, you need only to
> 
> list such inactive contributors if they made substantial contributions.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bret Pettichord
> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
> 
> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
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From charley.baker at gmail.com  Fri Jan  6 17:24:22 2012
From: charley.baker at gmail.com (Charley Baker)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 15:24:22 -0700
Subject: [Wtr-development] Contributors List
In-Reply-To: <C9A3616E-B270-465E-B69E-310E2C022751@gmail.com>
References: <CAPjkWY3dfabmdpo4s89JYR8VWmgwq-yEa3u_T5dLEQEvazBNbw@mail.gmail.com>
	<C9A3616E-B270-465E-B69E-310E2C022751@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOX+1PdaT6aKtLnntdHjC+v4Jk6AJJOL3=3ehW=WQpJAY5kOnA@mail.gmail.com>

I actually had a decent list when I started filling out the form, let me
know if you need help with this.

Cheers,

Charley



On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Hugh McGowan <colinsdaddy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Im happy to do this.
>
> Thanks!
> Hugh
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 2, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com> wrote:
>
> I am almost done with the application for the Watir project to join the
> Software Freedom Conservancy. One thing that still needs to be done is to
> complete this section. We're looking for a volunteer to help finish this
> list. Github has the complete commit logs for the history of the project,
> so all the information is there. Just needs to be teased out.
>
> Any volunteers?
>
> Bret
>
> * Please list the names, email addresses, and affiliations (e.g., employer) of
>
> key developers and major contributors.  Include both current and past
>
> contributors and developers.  Please include date ranges of when those
>
> developers/contributors were active.
>
>
> Our current team page lists the most active contributors and developers for
>
> Watir: http://watir.com/team/
>
>
>
> More detailed information:
> Bret Pettichord bret at pettichord.com - Director, Watir, workplace: Convio -
>
> active: 2003-2011
>
>
> Charley Baker charley.baker at gmail.com - Lead Developer, Watir, workplace:
>
>
> self-employed active: 2005-2011
>
> Angrez Singh angrez at gmail.com - Lead Developer, FireWatir, workplace:
>
>
> Proteans Software Solutions Pvt. Ltd, active: 2005-2010
>
>
> Jari Bakken jari.bakken at gmail.com - Contributor, Watir, Lead Developer,
>
>
> Watir-Webdriver, workplace: Finntech.no, active 2008-2011
>
>
> Jarmo Pertman jarmo.p at gmail.com - Developer, Watir, workplace:
>
>
> active: 2010-2011
> Zeljko Filipin zeljko.filipin at gmail.com, Community Manager, owner of
>
> watirpodcast.com and testingpodcast.com, writing Watir book,
>
> workplace: WA Research SA, active: 2005-2011
> Alister Scott alister.scott at gmail.com, Web Master, Watir, workplace: ThoughtWorks,
>
> active: 2007-2011
>
>
> Tiffany Fodor tcfodor at comcast.net, Community Support, workplace: self-employed,
>
>
> active: 2007-2011
> Paul Rogers paul.rogers at shaw.ca, Developer, Watir, workplace:
>
> active: 2004-2008
>
>
> Jonathan Kohl jonathan at kohl.ca, Documentation, Watir, workplace: self-employed consultant,
>
>
> active: 2004-2005
> Dave Hoover dave at obtiva.com, Creator, SafariWatir, workplace: Obtiva,
>
> active 2006-2009
>
>
> Sai Venkatakrishnan saidesertrose2004 at gmail.com, Creator, ChromeWatir, FlashWatir,
>
>
> workplace: ThoughtWorks, active: 2008-2010
>
>
>
> <<Would be good to go through the commit logs and see if there were other frequent contributors over the years. Seems like there were some, but maybe they were more than 5 years ago.>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Please make this list as extensive and complete as possible.  You need not
>
>
> include every last person who sent one patch, but please include at least those
>
>
> who regularly sent patches or were/are regular contributors.  If you project has
>
>
> contributors who have been inactive for more than five years, you need only to
>
>
> list such inactive contributors if they made substantial contributions.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Bret Pettichord
> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>
> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>
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From bret at pettichord.com  Fri Jan  6 17:41:59 2012
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 16:41:59 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] Contributors List
In-Reply-To: <CAOX+1PdaT6aKtLnntdHjC+v4Jk6AJJOL3=3ehW=WQpJAY5kOnA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPjkWY3dfabmdpo4s89JYR8VWmgwq-yEa3u_T5dLEQEvazBNbw@mail.gmail.com>
	<C9A3616E-B270-465E-B69E-310E2C022751@gmail.com>
	<CAOX+1PdaT6aKtLnntdHjC+v4Jk6AJJOL3=3ehW=WQpJAY5kOnA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPjkWY31cO6EAoSLTqcz0N2S+qiC9NbRcVVO+SKLFr8E2zaRjA@mail.gmail.com>

Charley, that is your list that I posted, and your comment saying someone
should go through the commit logs.

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Charley Baker <charley.baker at gmail.com>wrote:

> I actually had a decent list when I started filling out the form, let me
> know if you need help with this.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Charley
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Hugh McGowan <colinsdaddy at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Im happy to do this.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Hugh
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am almost done with the application for the Watir project to join the
>> Software Freedom Conservancy. One thing that still needs to be done is to
>> complete this section. We're looking for a volunteer to help finish this
>> list. Github has the complete commit logs for the history of the project,
>> so all the information is there. Just needs to be teased out.
>>
>> Any volunteers?
>>
>> Bret
>>
>> * Please list the names, email addresses, and affiliations (e.g., employer) of
>>
>>
>> key developers and major contributors.  Include both current and past
>>
>>
>> contributors and developers.  Please include date ranges of when those
>>
>>
>> developers/contributors were active.
>>
>>
>>
>> Our current team page lists the most active contributors and developers for
>>
>>
>> Watir: http://watir.com/team/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> More detailed information:
>> Bret Pettichord bret at pettichord.com - Director, Watir, workplace: Convio -
>>
>>
>> active: 2003-2011
>>
>>
>>
>> Charley Baker charley.baker at gmail.com - Lead Developer, Watir, workplace:
>>
>>
>>
>> self-employed active: 2005-2011
>>
>> Angrez Singh angrez at gmail.com - Lead Developer, FireWatir, workplace:
>>
>>
>>
>> Proteans Software Solutions Pvt. Ltd, active: 2005-2010
>>
>>
>>
>> Jari Bakken jari.bakken at gmail.com - Contributor, Watir, Lead Developer,
>>
>>
>>
>> Watir-Webdriver, workplace: Finntech.no, active 2008-2011
>>
>>
>>
>> Jarmo Pertman jarmo.p at gmail.com - Developer, Watir, workplace:
>>
>>
>>
>> active: 2010-2011
>> Zeljko Filipin zeljko.filipin at gmail.com, Community Manager, owner of
>>
>>
>> watirpodcast.com and testingpodcast.com, writing Watir book,
>>
>>
>> workplace: WA Research SA, active: 2005-2011
>> Alister Scott alister.scott at gmail.com, Web Master, Watir, workplace: ThoughtWorks,
>>
>>
>> active: 2007-2011
>>
>>
>>
>> Tiffany Fodor tcfodor at comcast.net, Community Support, workplace: self-employed,
>>
>>
>>
>> active: 2007-2011
>> Paul Rogers paul.rogers at shaw.ca, Developer, Watir, workplace:
>>
>>
>> active: 2004-2008
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan Kohl jonathan at kohl.ca, Documentation, Watir, workplace: self-employed consultant,
>>
>>
>>
>> active: 2004-2005
>> Dave Hoover dave at obtiva.com, Creator, SafariWatir, workplace: Obtiva,
>>
>>
>> active 2006-2009
>>
>>
>>
>> Sai Venkatakrishnan saidesertrose2004 at gmail.com, Creator, ChromeWatir, FlashWatir,
>>
>>
>>
>> workplace: ThoughtWorks, active: 2008-2010
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <<Would be good to go through the commit logs and see if there were other frequent contributors over the years. Seems like there were some, but maybe they were more than 5 years ago.>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please make this list as extensive and complete as possible.  You need not
>>
>>
>>
>> include every last person who sent one patch, but please include at least those
>>
>>
>>
>> who regularly sent patches or were/are regular contributors.  If you project has
>>
>>
>>
>> contributors who have been inactive for more than five years, you need only to
>>
>>
>>
>> list such inactive contributors if they made substantial contributions.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bret Pettichord
>> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>>
>> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
>> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>



-- 
Bret Pettichord
Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com

Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
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From charley.baker at gmail.com  Fri Jan  6 17:50:38 2012
From: charley.baker at gmail.com (Charley Baker)
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 15:50:38 -0700
Subject: [Wtr-development] Contributors List
In-Reply-To: <CAPjkWY31cO6EAoSLTqcz0N2S+qiC9NbRcVVO+SKLFr8E2zaRjA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPjkWY3dfabmdpo4s89JYR8VWmgwq-yEa3u_T5dLEQEvazBNbw@mail.gmail.com>
	<C9A3616E-B270-465E-B69E-310E2C022751@gmail.com>
	<CAOX+1PdaT6aKtLnntdHjC+v4Jk6AJJOL3=3ehW=WQpJAY5kOnA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPjkWY31cO6EAoSLTqcz0N2S+qiC9NbRcVVO+SKLFr8E2zaRjA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOX+1PczreCb2dFRZLKyTObXjm9UGEReyJY0Y23tHjY0hJb3ag@mail.gmail.com>

Apparently it has been a while. :) Off the top of my head, I'm working at
Groupon, same email is fine, Dave Hoover also at Groupon, dhh at groupon.com -
according to him he's the first dhh.

Cheers,

Charley



On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com> wrote:

> Charley, that is your list that I posted, and your comment saying someone
> should go through the commit logs.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Charley Baker <charley.baker at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I actually had a decent list when I started filling out the form, let me
>> know if you need help with this.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Charley
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Hugh McGowan <colinsdaddy at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Im happy to do this.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am almost done with the application for the Watir project to join the
>>> Software Freedom Conservancy. One thing that still needs to be done is to
>>> complete this section. We're looking for a volunteer to help finish this
>>> list. Github has the complete commit logs for the history of the project,
>>> so all the information is there. Just needs to be teased out.
>>>
>>> Any volunteers?
>>>
>>> Bret
>>>
>>> * Please list the names, email addresses, and affiliations (e.g., employer) of
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> key developers and major contributors.  Include both current and past
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> contributors and developers.  Please include date ranges of when those
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> developers/contributors were active.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Our current team page lists the most active contributors and developers for
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Watir: http://watir.com/team/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> More detailed information:
>>> Bret Pettichord bret at pettichord.com - Director, Watir, workplace: Convio -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> active: 2003-2011
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Charley Baker charley.baker at gmail.com - Lead Developer, Watir, workplace:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> self-employed active: 2005-2011
>>>
>>> Angrez Singh angrez at gmail.com - Lead Developer, FireWatir, workplace:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Proteans Software Solutions Pvt. Ltd, active: 2005-2010
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jari Bakken jari.bakken at gmail.com - Contributor, Watir, Lead Developer,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Watir-Webdriver, workplace: Finntech.no, active 2008-2011
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jarmo Pertman jarmo.p at gmail.com - Developer, Watir, workplace:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> active: 2010-2011
>>> Zeljko Filipin zeljko.filipin at gmail.com, Community Manager, owner of
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> watirpodcast.com and testingpodcast.com, writing Watir book,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> workplace: WA Research SA, active: 2005-2011
>>> Alister Scott alister.scott at gmail.com, Web Master, Watir, workplace: ThoughtWorks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> active: 2007-2011
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tiffany Fodor tcfodor at comcast.net, Community Support, workplace: self-employed,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> active: 2007-2011
>>> Paul Rogers paul.rogers at shaw.ca, Developer, Watir, workplace:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> active: 2004-2008
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan Kohl jonathan at kohl.ca, Documentation, Watir, workplace: self-employed consultant,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> active: 2004-2005
>>> Dave Hoover dave at obtiva.com, Creator, SafariWatir, workplace: Obtiva,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> active 2006-2009
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sai Venkatakrishnan saidesertrose2004 at gmail.com, Creator, ChromeWatir, FlashWatir,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> workplace: ThoughtWorks, active: 2008-2010
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <<Would be good to go through the commit logs and see if there were other frequent contributors over the years. Seems like there were some, but maybe they were more than 5 years ago.>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please make this list as extensive and complete as possible.  You need not
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> include every last person who sent one patch, but please include at least those
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> who regularly sent patches or were/are regular contributors.  If you project has
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> contributors who have been inactive for more than five years, you need only to
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> list such inactive contributors if they made substantial contributions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bret Pettichord
>>> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>>>
>>> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
>>> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wtr-development mailing list
>>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wtr-development mailing list
>>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Bret Pettichord
> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>
> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
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From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com  Sat Jan  7 07:52:01 2012
From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 13:52:01 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] Contributors List
In-Reply-To: <CAPjkWY3dfabmdpo4s89JYR8VWmgwq-yEa3u_T5dLEQEvazBNbw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPjkWY3dfabmdpo4s89JYR8VWmgwq-yEa3u_T5dLEQEvazBNbw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABfBeAonLjHnfNJd9frpst+EgkHuUgBdrcUaDGLcySo8kd2rWg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>
wrote:
> Zeljko Filipin zeljko.filipin at gmail.com, Community Manager, owner of
> watirpodcast.com and testingpodcast.com, writing Watir book,
> workplace: WA Research SA, active: 2005-2011

I am not working for WA Research since 1/1/2012 (I am freelance tester
now), but I made all of my contributions to Watir while working for them. I
am not sure if it is relevant to mention that I own testingpodcast.com.

?eljko
--
watir.com/book - author
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From bret at pettichord.com  Sat Jan  7 08:44:28 2012
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 07:44:28 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] Contributors List
In-Reply-To: <CABfBeAonLjHnfNJd9frpst+EgkHuUgBdrcUaDGLcySo8kd2rWg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPjkWY3dfabmdpo4s89JYR8VWmgwq-yEa3u_T5dLEQEvazBNbw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABfBeAonLjHnfNJd9frpst+EgkHuUgBdrcUaDGLcySo8kd2rWg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPjkWY3k1WVhrtGxnHX1W3rvJBWO=LQxSmiRyAC4ptSqXhmrbA@mail.gmail.com>

I think we need employers for the past five years.

On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 6:52 AM, ?eljko Filipin <zeljko.filipin at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>
> wrote:
> > Zeljko Filipin zeljko.filipin at gmail.com, Community Manager, owner of
> > watirpodcast.com and testingpodcast.com, writing Watir book,
> > workplace: WA Research SA, active: 2005-2011
>
> I am not working for WA Research since 1/1/2012 (I am freelance tester
> now), but I made all of my contributions to Watir while working for them. I
> am not sure if it is relevant to mention that I own testingpodcast.com.
>
> ?eljko
> --
> watir.com/book - author
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>



-- 
Bret Pettichord
Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com

Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
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From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com  Sat Jan  7 09:42:03 2012
From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 15:42:03 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] Contributors List
In-Reply-To: <CAPjkWY3k1WVhrtGxnHX1W3rvJBWO=LQxSmiRyAC4ptSqXhmrbA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPjkWY3dfabmdpo4s89JYR8VWmgwq-yEa3u_T5dLEQEvazBNbw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABfBeAonLjHnfNJd9frpst+EgkHuUgBdrcUaDGLcySo8kd2rWg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPjkWY3k1WVhrtGxnHX1W3rvJBWO=LQxSmiRyAC4ptSqXhmrbA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABfBeArovgsbqDyEMAoQ7Uei5thwSjyFqZW=14dTyuM8mv6CeQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com> wrote:
> I think we need employers for the past five years.

Then for me it is WA Research.

?eljko
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From alister.scott at gmail.com  Sat Jan  7 15:29:49 2012
From: alister.scott at gmail.com (Alister Scott)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 06:29:49 +1000
Subject: [Wtr-development] Contributors List
In-Reply-To: <CAPjkWY3k1WVhrtGxnHX1W3rvJBWO=LQxSmiRyAC4ptSqXhmrbA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPjkWY3dfabmdpo4s89JYR8VWmgwq-yEa3u_T5dLEQEvazBNbw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABfBeAonLjHnfNJd9frpst+EgkHuUgBdrcUaDGLcySo8kd2rWg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPjkWY3k1WVhrtGxnHX1W3rvJBWO=LQxSmiRyAC4ptSqXhmrbA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <-1871135644731691912@unknownmsgid>

For me it's ThoughtWorks and QSuper Ltd.

Cheers,

Alister Scott
Brisbane, Australia

On 08/01/2012, at 12:37 AM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com> wrote:

I think we need employers for the past five years.

On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 6:52 AM, ?eljko Filipin <zeljko.filipin at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>
> wrote:
> > Zeljko Filipin zeljko.filipin at gmail.com, Community Manager, owner of
> > watirpodcast.com and testingpodcast.com, writing Watir book,
> > workplace: WA Research SA, active: 2005-2011
>
> I am not working for WA Research since 1/1/2012 (I am freelance tester
> now), but I made all of my contributions to Watir while working for them. I
> am not sure if it is relevant to mention that I own testingpodcast.com.
>
> ?eljko
> --
> watir.com/book - author
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>



-- 
Bret Pettichord
Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com

Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord

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From colinsdaddy at gmail.com  Sat Jan  7 16:06:23 2012
From: colinsdaddy at gmail.com (Hugh McGowan)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 15:06:23 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] Contributors List
In-Reply-To: <-1871135644731691912@unknownmsgid>
References: <CAPjkWY3dfabmdpo4s89JYR8VWmgwq-yEa3u_T5dLEQEvazBNbw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABfBeAonLjHnfNJd9frpst+EgkHuUgBdrcUaDGLcySo8kd2rWg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPjkWY3k1WVhrtGxnHX1W3rvJBWO=LQxSmiRyAC4ptSqXhmrbA@mail.gmail.com>
	<-1871135644731691912@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <CAH59Z1wUe4fOwqM2+Vnqs8ZP8y4D-JsjmixEYOo4uq57Y_yzfg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the updates. Keep em coming and I'll try to get through the
github logs in the next few days to make sure we have everyone.

Hugh
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From colinsdaddy at gmail.com  Sun Jan  8 10:06:32 2012
From: colinsdaddy at gmail.com (Hugh McGowan)
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 09:06:32 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] Contributors List
In-Reply-To: <CABfBeArovgsbqDyEMAoQ7Uei5thwSjyFqZW=14dTyuM8mv6CeQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPjkWY3dfabmdpo4s89JYR8VWmgwq-yEa3u_T5dLEQEvazBNbw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABfBeAonLjHnfNJd9frpst+EgkHuUgBdrcUaDGLcySo8kd2rWg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPjkWY3k1WVhrtGxnHX1W3rvJBWO=LQxSmiRyAC4ptSqXhmrbA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABfBeArovgsbqDyEMAoQ7Uei5thwSjyFqZW=14dTyuM8mv6CeQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH59Z1w=-pMJPB7nn83D9PX9K1+w-jkhNtKzUeEX_LA9OuSHew@mail.gmail.com>

I think we're pretty close now. I've gone through the commit logs and as
Bret anticipated, the unclear contributors are the ones > 5 years ago. I'll
go through the list with him on Monday so we can sort it out.

Hugh
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From paul.rogers at shaw.ca  Thu Jan 12 12:56:03 2012
From: paul.rogers at shaw.ca (Paul Rogers)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:56:03 -0700
Subject: [Wtr-development] Contributors List
In-Reply-To: <CAPjkWY3dfabmdpo4s89JYR8VWmgwq-yEa3u_T5dLEQEvazBNbw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPjkWY3dfabmdpo4s89JYR8VWmgwq-yEa3u_T5dLEQEvazBNbw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPPGx44BNCnxBSa6FTdSitk625-cwsT_PvOCuZypvajE7Gi-Xw@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe put me down as a freelancer. I worked at several places during
the time I worked on Watir.

Paul

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com> wrote:
> I am almost done with the application for the Watir project to join the
> Software Freedom Conservancy. One thing that still needs to be done is to
> complete this section. We're looking for a volunteer to help finish this
> list. Github has the complete commit logs for the history of the project, so
> all the information is there. Just needs to be teased out.
>
> Any volunteers?
>
> Bret
>
> * Please list the names, email addresses, and affiliations (e.g., employer)
> of
> key developers and major contributors.  Include both current and past
> contributors and developers.  Please include date ranges of when those
> developers/contributors were active.
>
>
> Our current team page lists the most active contributors and developers for
> Watir: http://watir.com/team/
>
>
> More detailed information:
> Bret Pettichord bret at pettichord.com - Director, Watir, workplace: Convio -
> active: 2003-2011
> Charley Baker charley.baker at gmail.com - Lead Developer, Watir, workplace:
> self-employed active: 2005-2011
> Angrez Singh angrez at gmail.com - Lead Developer, FireWatir, workplace:
> Proteans Software Solutions Pvt. Ltd, active: 2005-2010
> Jari Bakken jari.bakken at gmail.com - Contributor, Watir, Lead Developer,
> Watir-Webdriver, workplace: Finntech.no, active 2008-2011
> Jarmo Pertman jarmo.p at gmail.com - Developer, Watir, workplace:
> active: 2010-2011
> Zeljko Filipin zeljko.filipin at gmail.com, Community Manager, owner of
> watirpodcast.com and testingpodcast.com, writing Watir book,
> workplace: WA Research SA, active: 2005-2011
> Alister Scott alister.scott at gmail.com, Web Master, Watir, workplace:
> ThoughtWorks,
> active: 2007-2011
> Tiffany Fodor tcfodor at comcast.net, Community Support, workplace:
> self-employed,
> active: 2007-2011
> Paul Rogers paul.rogers at shaw.ca, Developer, Watir, workplace:
> active: 2004-2008
> Jonathan Kohl jonathan at kohl.ca, Documentation, Watir, workplace:
> self-employed consultant,
> active: 2004-2005
> Dave Hoover dave at obtiva.com, Creator, SafariWatir, workplace: Obtiva,
> active 2006-2009
> Sai Venkatakrishnan saidesertrose2004 at gmail.com, Creator, ChromeWatir,
> FlashWatir,
> workplace: ThoughtWorks, active: 2008-2010
>
>
> <<Would be good to go through the commit logs and see if there were other
> frequent contributors over the years. Seems like there were some, but maybe
> they were more than 5 years ago.>>
>
>
>
>
> Please make this list as extensive and complete as possible.  You need not
> include every last person who sent one patch, but please include at least
> those
> who regularly sent patches or were/are regular contributors.  If you project
> has
> contributors who have been inactive for more than five years, you need only
> to
> list such inactive contributors if they made substantial contributions.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Bret Pettichord
> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>
> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development

From jarmo.p at gmail.com  Fri Jan 13 02:18:39 2012
From: jarmo.p at gmail.com (Jarmo)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:18:39 +0200
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0 pre-announcement
Message-ID: <CAHZHd6Uum8oRKv2C98cQu2KjkeAPD-130gDYJesWGDRExq1+PA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone!

I've been quiet for a while, but i'm back with some great news! I'm ready
to release Watir 3.0 rc1 into the wild.

This release includes quite many changes trying to conform with WatirSpec
causing backwards incompatible changes (that's why the version number is
3). I have ran this code against watirspec specs with Ruby 1.8.7 and 1.9.3
on Windows 7 having only 23 failures [1]. Most of the failures are related
with #send_keys (which needs to be changed on RAutomation's end), relative
xpaths (if anyone has great ideas how to solve that with nokogiri, i'd like
to hear) and Table methods finding internal tables. In other words - it
should be quite good to run tests with Watir and Watir-WebDriver side by
side. I'd encourage you to give that rc1 a try and let me know/fix (of) the
issues :)

All questions are welcome.

I have seen other e-mails about future plans and such. These are my
recommendations about roadmap:
1) make rest of the specs pass
2) add all the missing elements support (
http://zeljkofilipin.github.com/watirbook/reference/elements.htm)
3) cleanup repository by moving commonwatir code under watir codebase
4) delete commonwatir and firewatir code
5) delete old tests, since they don't pass anyway (if anyone wants to
convert some missing tests to RSpec, then they're free to do that anytime)
6) use Bundler for managing dependencies (especially for development)
7) stop using uncomfortable JIRA for issue management and use Github's
issues instead
8) use github/watir/watir repository if possible

That's it i guess for now. All the help is welcome of course :)

[1] https://gist.github.com/1604963

Jarmo
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From jarmo.p at gmail.com  Fri Jan 13 02:32:13 2012
From: jarmo.p at gmail.com (Jarmo)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:32:13 +0200
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0.rc1 Released
Message-ID: <CAHZHd6XARN0t4-F7=q5WyFmOXFYMs9y7Xs4J+tFHQz7SY9Dhvg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone!

I'm happy to announce that Watir isn't dead at all, since yet another
version of Watir has been just released - 3.0.rc1.

Its biggest goal is to conform even better with WatirSpec making it more
compliant with Watir-WebDriver.

Changelog:
* Button#text returns value if exists instead of text
* Browser#goto prepends url automatically with http:// if scheme is missing
* Browser#element(s)_by_(xpath/css) are now private methods - use
#element(:css => ...) and #element(:xpath => ...) instead
* Browser#label supports searching by :for attribute
* Browser#options method for searching <option> elements
* Browser#body, #thead, #tfoot, #tbody, #frameset and #fieldset added
* Browser#window and Browser#windows added implementing window switching
API (https://github.com/jarib/watirspec/blob/master/window_switching_spec.rb
)
* Element#present? returns false if exception is thrown by #exists? or
#visible?
* Element#style returns CSS text instead of OLE object
* Element#text returns an empty string for non-visible elements
* Element#parent returns correct instance of Element class (e.g. Div
instead of Element)
* Element#focus focuses document before focusing on the element
* Element#right_click and Element#double_click added
* Element#to_subtype added which returns specific instance of
Watir::Element subclass
* Element#send_keys added
* Element#eql? as an alias for Element#== added
* Element#tag_name added
* ElementCollection#[] method supports negative indexes like regular Arrays
* ElementCollection#[] returns always an object, even if the index is out
of bounds
* FileField#set and Image#save uses correct Windows file path (e.g. convert
"\"-es into "/"-es)
* FileField#set raises Errno::ENOENT instead of WatirException if file
doesn't exist
* FileField#value= as an alias for FileField#set added
* Font#color, #face and #size added
* Form#submit triggers onSubmit event and doesn't submit the form if
event's callback returns false
* Frame#execute_script added
* Image#file_size, #height and #width return integer instead of a string
* Image#save blocking fixed
* Meta#content and #http_equiv added
* Option code rewritten, causing changes in its API
* SelectList code rewritten, causing changes in its API
* SelectList#(selected_)options returns now Options collection instead of
an array of strings
* Table and its subelements code rewritten, causing changes in its API
* Table#strings and #hashes added
* TextField#label added
* searching elements will find only correct types - e.g. using Browser#div
returns only DIV element even if all other provided selectors match
* all selectors and tag of the element needs to match even if searching by
:id
* supporting html5 data-* attributes by using :data_* for locating and
#data_* for retrieving attribute values
* many other internal changes

Please try it out before final release of 3.0 by executing:
gem install watir --pre

With Best Regards,
Jarmo Pertman
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From alister.scott at gmail.com  Fri Jan 13 07:55:22 2012
From: alister.scott at gmail.com (Alister Scott)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 22:55:22 +1000
Subject: [Wtr-development] Should we move the watir code base under a
	'watir' organization on github?
Message-ID: <CAC1iRBxv6GB4vT8MHYSL6UGo7obLEhR7tk=tqw+k7ycaMVrPww@mail.gmail.com>

Should we move the watir code base under a 'watir' organization on github?
Similar to what Cucumber have done.
It's free and exactly the same, just means the master is at
github.com/watir/watir instead of bret/watir

Cheers,
Alister

Alister Scott
Brisbane, Australia
Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
Blog: http://watirmelon.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott

"There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate more
and more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton*
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From jarmo.p at gmail.com  Fri Jan 13 08:40:20 2012
From: jarmo.p at gmail.com (Jarmo)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 15:40:20 +0200
Subject: [Wtr-development] Should we move the watir code base under a
 'watir' organization on github?
In-Reply-To: <CAC1iRBxv6GB4vT8MHYSL6UGo7obLEhR7tk=tqw+k7ycaMVrPww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC1iRBxv6GB4vT8MHYSL6UGo7obLEhR7tk=tqw+k7ycaMVrPww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHZHd6VyLSy3UWbPup9rQAF6MM7Q_CT9By+5kA=qg5Vdw6ss7g@mail.gmail.com>

Same is for many other projects like rspec, rails etc.

It would be even better if under /watir/ would be also watirspec,
watir-webdriver and some other popular watir-related repositories. That
depends of course what Jari thinks about these two.

Jarmo

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Alister Scott <alister.scott at gmail.com>wrote:

> Should we move the watir code base under a 'watir' organization on github?
> Similar to what Cucumber have done.
> It's free and exactly the same, just means the master is at
> github.com/watir/watir instead of bret/watir
>
> Cheers,
> Alister
>
> Alister Scott
> Brisbane, Australia
> Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
> Blog: http://watirmelon.com
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott
>
> "There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate more
> and more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton*
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
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From abe.heward at gmail.com  Fri Jan 13 08:40:23 2012
From: abe.heward at gmail.com (Abe Heward)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 05:40:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0.rc1 Released
In-Reply-To: <CAHZHd6XARN0t4-F7=q5WyFmOXFYMs9y7Xs4J+tFHQz7SY9Dhvg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHZHd6XARN0t4-F7=q5WyFmOXFYMs9y7Xs4J+tFHQz7SY9Dhvg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9141218.1426.1326462023513.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqlf8>

Are there plans to, at some point, merge Watir and Watir-Webdriver into one 
thing?
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From colinsdaddy at gmail.com  Fri Jan 13 09:42:47 2012
From: colinsdaddy at gmail.com (Hugh McGowan)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 08:42:47 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0 pre-announcement
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This is really great, Jarmo. Thanks for all your hard work here. I'll take
a look at the changes this weekend and see if I can help with the
table/xpath tests.

I like the items in the list and have a few others to add. We should
probably meet sometime in the next few weeks (maybe Skype or adobe connect)
to talk about the roadmap and how we want to start attacking it. It looks
like I'm going to have a little more time to work on this for the next few
months so it would be good to make sure we're in sync :)

Hugh
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From bret at pettichord.com  Fri Jan 13 10:36:54 2012
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:36:54 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] Should we move the watir code base under a
 'watir' organization on github?
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I would be happy to see watir, watir-webdriver and watirspec all move under
the watir organization.

Alister, are you asking for permission or making a suggestion?

Bret

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:

> Same is for many other projects like rspec, rails etc.
>
> It would be even better if under /watir/ would be also watirspec,
> watir-webdriver and some other popular watir-related repositories. That
> depends of course what Jari thinks about these two.
>
> Jarmo
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Alister Scott <alister.scott at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Should we move the watir code base under a 'watir' organization on github?
>> Similar to what Cucumber have done.
>> It's free and exactly the same, just means the master is at
>> github.com/watir/watir instead of bret/watir
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alister
>>
>> Alister Scott
>> Brisbane, Australia
>> Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
>> Blog: http://watirmelon.com
>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott
>>
>> "There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate more
>> and more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton*
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>
>
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From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com  Fri Jan 13 10:49:04 2012
From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 16:49:04 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] Should we move the watir code base under a
 'watir' organization on github?
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On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>
wrote:
> I would be happy to see watir, watir-webdriver and watirspec all move
under the watir organization.

+1

?eljko
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From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com  Sat Jan 14 04:07:51 2012
From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:07:51 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0 pre-announcement
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On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Hugh McGowan <colinsdaddy at gmail.com> wrote:
> This is really great, Jarmo. Thanks for all your hard work here.

+1

?eljko
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From alister.scott at gmail.com  Sat Jan 14 06:09:23 2012
From: alister.scott at gmail.com (Alister Scott)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:09:23 +1000
Subject: [Wtr-development] Should we move the watir code base under a
 'watir' organization on github?
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Hi,

I am making a suggestion.

The gem owners (whose account it is under on github) will be the one's who
have to move it, and they'll need to notify any one whose developing so the
update their git remote urls.

I am more than happy to create the watir 'organization' on github, but
can't do much more than that, as it's the gem owners who need to do the
rest.

Cheers,

Alister Scott
Brisbane, Australia
Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
Blog: http://watirmelon.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott

"There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate more
and more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton*


On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>wrote:

> I would be happy to see watir, watir-webdriver and watirspec all move
> under the watir organization.
>
> Alister, are you asking for permission or making a suggestion?
>
> Bret
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Same is for many other projects like rspec, rails etc.
>>
>> It would be even better if under /watir/ would be also watirspec,
>> watir-webdriver and some other popular watir-related repositories. That
>> depends of course what Jari thinks about these two.
>>
>> Jarmo
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Alister Scott <alister.scott at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Should we move the watir code base under a 'watir' organization on
>>> github?
>>> Similar to what Cucumber have done.
>>> It's free and exactly the same, just means the master is at
>>> github.com/watir/watir instead of bret/watir
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alister
>>>
>>> Alister Scott
>>> Brisbane, Australia
>>> Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
>>> Blog: http://watirmelon.com
>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott
>>>
>>> "There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate more
>>> and more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton*
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wtr-development mailing list
>>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Bret Pettichord
> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>
> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>
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From alister.scott at gmail.com  Sat Jan 14 06:11:18 2012
From: alister.scott at gmail.com (Alister Scott)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:11:18 +1000
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0.rc1 Released
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One compliance to Watirspec is established, I don't see any reason why not.
The IE WebDriver driver is nowhere near as powerful/reliable as the native
watir driver so I think it would be a big win for those running tests under
IE.

Cheers,

Alister Scott
Brisbane, Australia
Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
Blog: http://watirmelon.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott

"There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate more
and more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton*


On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Abe Heward <abe.heward at gmail.com> wrote:

> Are there plans to, at some point, merge Watir and Watir-Webdriver into
> one thing?
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From jari.bakken at gmail.com  Sat Jan 14 11:05:05 2012
From: jari.bakken at gmail.com (Jari Bakken)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:05:05 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] Should we move the watir code base under a
 'watir' organization on github?
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That's fine by me, but looks like there's already a watir user, registered
2008:

  https://github.com/watir

Who owns it?


Den 13. jan. 2012 kl. 16:47 skrev Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>:

I would be happy to see watir, watir-webdriver and watirspec all move under
the watir organization.

Alister, are you asking for permission or making a suggestion?

Bret

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:

> Same is for many other projects like rspec, rails etc.
>
> It would be even better if under /watir/ would be also watirspec,
> watir-webdriver and some other popular watir-related repositories. That
> depends of course what Jari thinks about these two.
>
> Jarmo
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Alister Scott <alister.scott at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Should we move the watir code base under a 'watir' organization on github?
>> Similar to what Cucumber have done.
>> It's free and exactly the same, just means the master is at
>> github.com/watir/watir instead of bret/watir
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alister
>>
>> Alister Scott
>> Brisbane, Australia
>> Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
>> Blog: http://watirmelon.com
>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott
>>
>> "There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate more
>> and more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton*
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>



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From alex.ikhelis at gmail.com  Sat Jan 14 15:15:36 2012
From: alex.ikhelis at gmail.com (Aliaksandr Ikhelis)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:15:36 +0000
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0 pre-announcement
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Jarmo,

you are a hero. Thank you very much. Looking forward the release.

Thank you,
Aliaksandr Ikhelis


On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:07 AM, ?eljko Filipin <zeljko.filipin at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Hugh McGowan <colinsdaddy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > This is really great, Jarmo. Thanks for all your hard work here.
>
> +1
>
> ?eljko
>
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From bret at pettichord.com  Sat Jan 14 19:26:07 2012
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:26:07 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] Should we move the watir code base under a
 'watir' organization on github?
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I don't know who owns https://github.com/watir.

Alister, if you are asking me to move the watir repo, then it probably
won't happen. For me, higher priorities are the conference and the SFC
application and the accounting and the roadmap. However, if someone else
wants to do it, that is fine.

Bret


On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Jari Bakken <jari.bakken at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's fine by me, but looks like there's already a watir user, registered
> 2008:
>
>   https://github.com/watir
>
> Who owns it?
>
>
> Den 13. jan. 2012 kl. 16:47 skrev Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>:
>
> I would be happy to see watir, watir-webdriver and watirspec all move
> under the watir organization.
>
> Alister, are you asking for permission or making a suggestion?
>
> Bret
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Same is for many other projects like rspec, rails etc.
>>
>> It would be even better if under /watir/ would be also watirspec,
>> watir-webdriver and some other popular watir-related repositories. That
>> depends of course what Jari thinks about these two.
>>
>> Jarmo
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Alister Scott <alister.scott at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Should we move the watir code base under a 'watir' organization on
>>> github?
>>> Similar to what Cucumber have done.
>>> It's free and exactly the same, just means the master is at
>>> github.com/watir/watir instead of bret/watir
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alister
>>>
>>> Alister Scott
>>> Brisbane, Australia
>>> Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
>>> Blog: http://watirmelon.com
>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott
>>>
>>> "There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate more
>>> and more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton*
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wtr-development mailing list
>>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Bret Pettichord
> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>
> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>
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From bret at pettichord.com  Sat Jan 14 21:01:23 2012
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:01:23 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0 pre-announcement
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This looks like great work, thanks.

On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Aliaksandr Ikhelis
<alex.ikhelis at gmail.com>wrote:

> Jarmo,
>
> you are a hero. Thank you very much. Looking forward the release.
>
> Thank you,
> Aliaksandr Ikhelis
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:07 AM, ?eljko Filipin <zeljko.filipin at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Hugh McGowan <colinsdaddy at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > This is really great, Jarmo. Thanks for all your hard work here.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> ?eljko
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
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From alister.scott at gmail.com  Sat Jan 14 21:13:45 2012
From: alister.scott at gmail.com (Alister Scott)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 12:13:45 +1000
Subject: [Wtr-development] Should we move the watir code base under a
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Once the watir org is created (takes 5 mins) moving the repository is two
mouse clicks, but must be done under your account as you own Bret/watir

Cheers,

Alister Scott
Brisbane, Australia

On 15/01/2012, at 11:16 AM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com> wrote:

I don't know who owns https://github.com/watir.

Alister, if you are asking me to move the watir repo, then it probably
won't happen. For me, higher priorities are the conference and the SFC
application and the accounting and the roadmap. However, if someone else
wants to do it, that is fine.

Bret


On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Jari Bakken <jari.bakken at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's fine by me, but looks like there's already a watir user, registered
> 2008:
>
>   https://github.com/watir
>
> Who owns it?
>
>
> Den 13. jan. 2012 kl. 16:47 skrev Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>:
>
> I would be happy to see watir, watir-webdriver and watirspec all move
> under the watir organization.
>
> Alister, are you asking for permission or making a suggestion?
>
> Bret
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Same is for many other projects like rspec, rails etc.
>>
>> It would be even better if under /watir/ would be also watirspec,
>> watir-webdriver and some other popular watir-related repositories. That
>> depends of course what Jari thinks about these two.
>>
>> Jarmo
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Alister Scott <alister.scott at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Should we move the watir code base under a 'watir' organization on
>>> github?
>>> Similar to what Cucumber have done.
>>> It's free and exactly the same, just means the master is at
>>> github.com/watir/watir instead of bret/watir
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alister
>>>
>>> Alister Scott
>>> Brisbane, Australia
>>> Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
>>> Blog: http://watirmelon.com
>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott
>>>
>>> "There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate more
>>> and more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton*
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wtr-development mailing list
>>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Bret Pettichord
> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>
> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>



-- 
Bret Pettichord
Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com

Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord

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From alister.scott at gmail.com  Sat Jan 14 21:24:14 2012
From: alister.scott at gmail.com (Alister Scott)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 12:24:14 +1000
Subject: [Wtr-development] Should we move the watir code base under a
 'watir' organization on github?
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I've sent an email to github to see if we can get the name released.

Cheers,

Alister Scott
Brisbane, Australia

On 15/01/2012, at 11:16 AM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com> wrote:

I don't know who owns https://github.com/watir.

Alister, if you are asking me to move the watir repo, then it probably
won't happen. For me, higher priorities are the conference and the SFC
application and the accounting and the roadmap. However, if someone else
wants to do it, that is fine.

Bret


On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Jari Bakken <jari.bakken at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's fine by me, but looks like there's already a watir user, registered
> 2008:
>
>   https://github.com/watir
>
> Who owns it?
>
>
> Den 13. jan. 2012 kl. 16:47 skrev Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>:
>
> I would be happy to see watir, watir-webdriver and watirspec all move
> under the watir organization.
>
> Alister, are you asking for permission or making a suggestion?
>
> Bret
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Same is for many other projects like rspec, rails etc.
>>
>> It would be even better if under /watir/ would be also watirspec,
>> watir-webdriver and some other popular watir-related repositories. That
>> depends of course what Jari thinks about these two.
>>
>> Jarmo
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Alister Scott <alister.scott at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Should we move the watir code base under a 'watir' organization on
>>> github?
>>> Similar to what Cucumber have done.
>>> It's free and exactly the same, just means the master is at
>>> github.com/watir/watir instead of bret/watir
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alister
>>>
>>> Alister Scott
>>> Brisbane, Australia
>>> Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
>>> Blog: http://watirmelon.com
>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott
>>>
>>> "There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate more
>>> and more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton*
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wtr-development mailing list
>>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Bret Pettichord
> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>
> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>



-- 
Bret Pettichord
Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com

Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord

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From alister.scott at gmail.com  Sat Jan 14 22:02:22 2012
From: alister.scott at gmail.com (Alister Scott)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 13:02:22 +1000
Subject: [Wtr-development] Should we move the watir code base under a
 'watir' organization on github?
In-Reply-To: <-1730014863626641168@unknownmsgid>
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I have created our Watir organization on github:
https://github.com/organizations/watir
I have added Jari, Jarmo, Bret, Hugh, Zeljko, Charley and myself to it.
(Have I forgotten anyone?)
Now the owners of the existing repos (bret/watir, jarib/watir-webdriver
etc.) can just log into github and move the repo under the Watir
organization, it is like two clicks.
The only change is users will need to run a command to update their remote
server
*git remote origin <newurl>
*
Cheers,
Alister

Alister Scott
Brisbane, Australia
Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
Blog: http://watirmelon.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott

"There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate more
and more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton*


On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Alister Scott <alister.scott at gmail.com>wrote:

> I've sent an email to github to see if we can get the name released.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alister Scott
> Brisbane, Australia
>
> On 15/01/2012, at 11:16 AM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com> wrote:
>
> I don't know who owns https://github.com/watir.
>
> Alister, if you are asking me to move the watir repo, then it probably
> won't happen. For me, higher priorities are the conference and the SFC
> application and the accounting and the roadmap. However, if someone else
> wants to do it, that is fine.
>
> Bret
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Jari Bakken <jari.bakken at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> That's fine by me, but looks like there's already a watir user,
>> registered 2008:
>>
>>   https://github.com/watir
>>
>> Who owns it?
>>
>>
>> Den 13. jan. 2012 kl. 16:47 skrev Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>:
>>
>> I would be happy to see watir, watir-webdriver and watirspec all move
>> under the watir organization.
>>
>> Alister, are you asking for permission or making a suggestion?
>>
>> Bret
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Same is for many other projects like rspec, rails etc.
>>>
>>> It would be even better if under /watir/ would be also watirspec,
>>> watir-webdriver and some other popular watir-related repositories. That
>>> depends of course what Jari thinks about these two.
>>>
>>> Jarmo
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Alister Scott <alister.scott at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Should we move the watir code base under a 'watir' organization on
>>>> github?
>>>> Similar to what Cucumber have done.
>>>> It's free and exactly the same, just means the master is at
>>>> github.com/watir/watir instead of bret/watir
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Alister
>>>>
>>>> Alister Scott
>>>> Brisbane, Australia
>>>> Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
>>>> Blog: http://watirmelon.com
>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott
>>>>
>>>> "There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate
>>>> more and more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton*
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Wtr-development mailing list
>>>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wtr-development mailing list
>>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bret Pettichord
>> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>>
>> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
>> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Bret Pettichord
> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>
> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>
>  _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>
>
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From alister.scott at gmail.com  Sat Jan 14 22:20:44 2012
From: alister.scott at gmail.com (Alister Scott)
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 13:20:44 +1000
Subject: [Wtr-development] Should we move the watir code base under a
 'watir' organization on github?
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Oh, and Jari might need to recreate the travis-ci hook to use
watir/watir-webdriver: a simple task.

Cheers,
Alister


Alister Scott
Brisbane, Australia
Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
Blog: http://watirmelon.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott

"There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate more
and more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton*


On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Alister Scott <alister.scott at gmail.com>wrote:

> I have created our Watir organization on github:
> https://github.com/organizations/watir
> I have added Jari, Jarmo, Bret, Hugh, Zeljko, Charley and myself to it.
> (Have I forgotten anyone?)
> Now the owners of the existing repos (bret/watir, jarib/watir-webdriver
> etc.) can just log into github and move the repo under the Watir
> organization, it is like two clicks.
> The only change is users will need to run a command to update their remote
> server
> *git remote origin <newurl>
> *
>
> Cheers,
> Alister
>
> Alister Scott
> Brisbane, Australia
> Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
> Blog: http://watirmelon.com
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott
>
> "There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate more
> and more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton*
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Alister Scott <alister.scott at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I've sent an email to github to see if we can get the name released.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alister Scott
>> Brisbane, Australia
>>
>> On 15/01/2012, at 11:16 AM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com> wrote:
>>
>> I don't know who owns https://github.com/watir.
>>
>> Alister, if you are asking me to move the watir repo, then it probably
>> won't happen. For me, higher priorities are the conference and the SFC
>> application and the accounting and the roadmap. However, if someone else
>> wants to do it, that is fine.
>>
>> Bret
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Jari Bakken <jari.bakken at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> That's fine by me, but looks like there's already a watir user,
>>> registered 2008:
>>>
>>>   https://github.com/watir
>>>
>>> Who owns it?
>>>
>>>
>>> Den 13. jan. 2012 kl. 16:47 skrev Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>:
>>>
>>> I would be happy to see watir, watir-webdriver and watirspec all move
>>> under the watir organization.
>>>
>>> Alister, are you asking for permission or making a suggestion?
>>>
>>> Bret
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Same is for many other projects like rspec, rails etc.
>>>>
>>>> It would be even better if under /watir/ would be also watirspec,
>>>> watir-webdriver and some other popular watir-related repositories. That
>>>> depends of course what Jari thinks about these two.
>>>>
>>>> Jarmo
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Alister Scott <alister.scott at gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Should we move the watir code base under a 'watir' organization on
>>>>> github?
>>>>> Similar to what Cucumber have done.
>>>>> It's free and exactly the same, just means the master is at
>>>>> github.com/watir/watir instead of bret/watir
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Alister
>>>>>
>>>>> Alister Scott
>>>>> Brisbane, Australia
>>>>> Watir Web Master: http://watir.com
>>>>> Blog: http://watirmelon.com
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alisterscott
>>>>>
>>>>> "There are two ways to get enough: One is to continue to accumulate
>>>>> more and more. The other is to desire less." *~ G. K. Chesterton*
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Wtr-development mailing list
>>>>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Wtr-development mailing list
>>>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bret Pettichord
>>> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>>>
>>> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
>>> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wtr-development mailing list
>>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wtr-development mailing list
>>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bret Pettichord
>> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>>
>> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
>> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>>
>>  _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>>
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From abaird at bairdsnet.net  Mon Jan 16 15:26:01 2012
From: abaird at bairdsnet.net (Alan Baird)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:26:01 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0 pre-announcement
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+1, thanks for all your hard work Jarmo!
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From colinsdaddy at gmail.com  Mon Jan 16 18:11:04 2012
From: colinsdaddy at gmail.com (Hugh McGowan)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:11:04 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0 pre-announcement
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Jarmo, is everything checked in or am I doing something wrong? It seems
like I'm not running the same thing you are as I'm seeing more failures
than you did: https://gist.github.com/1623398.

Things like the method being private in ie-class, for example seem like
it's failing for the right reason with what is defined in the code so I'm
not sure what is going on. Also to get these tests running I had to make a
few tweaks:

WatirSpec.persistent_browser=true made the script hang on my Win7x64
system. Not sure why but not a big deal.

What's the intent of not_compliant_on [:webdriver, :ie]? Does that mean it
should not be run on :webdriver OR :ie ...or... :webdriver AND :ie? if it's
an OR then the implementation.rb is incorrect and needs to be updated
accordingly (I assumed it was an OR so made the code do the right
check...otherwise I'm seeing even more failures, eg area_spec fails on an
#exists? method)

Hugh
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From sqapro at gmail.com  Mon Jan 16 18:22:32 2012
From: sqapro at gmail.com (Charles S van der Linden)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:22:32 -0800
Subject: [Wtr-development] HTML Elements Supported by Watir
Message-ID: <CAHJU+E0x5v=_0P1Rb-WtHiax3TcAMbSE-MaoCioH+whhdxoV=A@mail.gmail.com>

Z wrote sometime back in Dec

I have created a table of all HTML elements and added data which Watir gem
(watir, watir-webdriver, safariwatir) supports each element and/or it's
collection.


I thought watir-webdriver implemented aliases for tr and td as row and
cell,  I see them in the rdoc.  but they are not shown on your chart.


I like that you have the column for the plural form.

What does the color coding mean?

It might be good to perhaps consider coloring the 'alias' methods that
are not the same as a tag, such as cell, text_field, etc.

Speaking of which, what's our position on those? Are those deprecated?
or should we encourage their use under the basis of more readable
code?  I'm a bit torn on that as I like .row better than .tr and .link
over .a but at the same time I wonder if we should be encouraging
testers to learn the html tag names.  I think I've lost count of the
number of times we've had someone complaining that 'clicking a link
does not work' and then you see their html and the thing they are
trying to click is an li (list item) tag, not an a (anchor aka link)
tag.  I guess I forget that when I tested my first web-app I didn't
know html very well either.

From jari.bakken at gmail.com  Mon Jan 16 18:23:30 2012
From: jari.bakken at gmail.com (Jari Bakken)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 00:23:30 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0 pre-announcement
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Hugh McGowan <colinsdaddy at gmail.com>wrote:

> What's the intent of not_compliant_on [:webdriver, :ie]? Does that mean it
> should not be run on :webdriver OR :ie ...or... :webdriver AND :ie? if it's
> an OR then the implementation.rb is incorrect and needs to be updated
> accordingly (I assumed it was an OR so made the code do the right
> check...otherwise I'm seeing even more failures, eg area_spec fails on an
> #exists? method)
>
>
That's an AND.
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From jari.bakken at gmail.com  Mon Jan 16 19:09:52 2012
From: jari.bakken at gmail.com (Jari Bakken)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 01:09:52 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0 pre-announcement
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Hugh McGowan <colinsdaddy at gmail.com>wrote:

> Jarmo, is everything checked in or am I doing something wrong? It seems
> like I'm not running the same thing you are as I'm seeing more failures
> than you did: https://gist.github.com/1623398.
>
>
Looks like a lot of failures are because #element{,s}_by_xpath is
deprecated (and thus made private in Watir 3), but watirspec isn't updated
to reflect this.
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From sqapro at gmail.com  Mon Jan 16 19:15:01 2012
From: sqapro at gmail.com (Charles S van der Linden)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:15:01 -0800
Subject: [Wtr-development] DragDrop functionality
Message-ID: <CAHJU+E3tP1auKtX=mf6AEW-D7RbCojfHX03Ss1u5PKL7S7EQwg@mail.gmail.com>

So I was watching some stuff for Windmill which appears to be some
python based automation stuff, for all I know it's webdriver under the
hood.

Slick UI, record and playback (sigh don't get me started.) and a mix
of identifying stuff by 'clean' means like ID, Class, or Name along
with a ton of identification done by xpath (sigh, again don't get me
started)

No abstraction layer as far as I could tell.  bunch of other things
I'd consider shortcomings, but a site rife with good demo videos and
has that sexy appeal that people who've not been through the
automation wringer always fall for.

But with what did get my attention was their drag and drop stuff,
which is becoming more and more in demand.

I think this is the kind of thing that can help someone who wants to
use watir to fight back against someone being seduced by a sexy UI
that creates brittle tests.

To start off with I think we ought to consider supporting two things I
saw them demo  They called their methods "dragDropElem" and
"dragDropElemToElem".  Not enthralled with the names, but like the
functionality

The first was fairly easy  just a drag and drop relative to the
current location,  e.g.  browser.div(:how =>
'what').drag_relative(x,y)
The second was more useful, dragging one element onto another.  e.g.
browser.div(:how => 'what').drag_onto(-an element-)

The question I would have for the second version is how to specify the
target element?  Do you use some format like (:tag => 'div', :id =>
'drag_target')  or something different?

(I dropped 'drop' from the method names since I think it's implied,
once you start dragging what else can you do but drop the thing
someplace.  Not in any way married to those names, just trying to give
us something to work with.

They give some actual useful examples in terms of manipulating slider
controls where this kind of thing becomes pretty useful.  I think this
is the site (or a version of it) they were automating against.
http://yaxu.org/synth/jquery/demos/functional/  it would be
interesting to see if you can easily work those controls with watir
without a drag-drop capability.

From alex.ikhelis at gmail.com  Mon Jan 16 19:16:40 2012
From: alex.ikhelis at gmail.com (Aliaksandr Ikhelis)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 00:16:40 +0000
Subject: [Wtr-development] HTML Elements Supported by Watir
In-Reply-To: <CAHJU+E0x5v=_0P1Rb-WtHiax3TcAMbSE-MaoCioH+whhdxoV=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHJU+E0x5v=_0P1Rb-WtHiax3TcAMbSE-MaoCioH+whhdxoV=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFjQWxP5btG--+NOFQS-uV3Qb5R+U8kidU+tAmoWv4x1xL0XGw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Charles,

>I thought watir-webdriver implemented aliases for tr and td as row and
cell,  I see them in the rdoc.  but they are not shown on your chart.

As far as I remember the only class watir-webdriver supplies with row()
method is Watir::Table, but not the Container.

Thank you,
Aliaksandr Ikhelis


On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Charles S van der Linden <sqapro at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Z wrote sometime back in Dec
>
> I have created a table of all HTML elements and added data which Watir gem
> (watir, watir-webdriver, safariwatir) supports each element and/or it's
> collection.
>
>
> I thought watir-webdriver implemented aliases for tr and td as row and
> cell,  I see them in the rdoc.  but they are not shown on your chart.
>
>
> I like that you have the column for the plural form.
>
> What does the color coding mean?
>
> It might be good to perhaps consider coloring the 'alias' methods that
> are not the same as a tag, such as cell, text_field, etc.
>
> Speaking of which, what's our position on those? Are those deprecated?
> or should we encourage their use under the basis of more readable
> code?  I'm a bit torn on that as I like .row better than .tr and .link
> over .a but at the same time I wonder if we should be encouraging
> testers to learn the html tag names.  I think I've lost count of the
> number of times we've had someone complaining that 'clicking a link
> does not work' and then you see their html and the thing they are
> trying to click is an li (list item) tag, not an a (anchor aka link)
> tag.  I guess I forget that when I tested my first web-app I didn't
> know html very well either.
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
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From jarmo.p at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 02:13:49 2012
From: jarmo.p at gmail.com (Jarmo)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:13:49 +0200
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0 pre-announcement
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Yes, i hadn't made the commit pointing to the newer watirspec. It should be
fine now after you pull from bret/watir again. Make sure that the latest
commit in `git log` for watirspec is a9b4b9.

Sorry!

Jarmo

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:09 AM, Jari Bakken <jari.bakken at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Hugh McGowan <colinsdaddy at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Jarmo, is everything checked in or am I doing something wrong? It seems
>> like I'm not running the same thing you are as I'm seeing more failures
>> than you did: https://gist.github.com/1623398.
>>
>>
> Looks like a lot of failures are because #element{,s}_by_xpath is
> deprecated (and thus made private in Watir 3), but watirspec isn't updated
> to reflect this.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
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From jarmo.p at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 02:17:44 2012
From: jarmo.p at gmail.com (Jarmo)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:17:44 +0200
Subject: [Wtr-development] DragDrop functionality
In-Reply-To: <CAHJU+E3tP1auKtX=mf6AEW-D7RbCojfHX03Ss1u5PKL7S7EQwg@mail.gmail.com>
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I know that there is something similar in Watir-WebDriver or will soon be -
let's make sure that we would use the same API. I'd prefer having second
element just as a Watir::Element instance, e.g. something like this:

b.div(:id => "something").drag_to(b.div(:id => "something_else"))

This approach is good since specifying the second parameter is as flexible
as specifying the first and it's consistent with everything else in the
existing API.

Are you planning to implement these methods? In that case, as i already
mentioned, let's make sure we're using the exact same API in Watir and
Watir-WebDriver. I'd recommend to create first some examples into WatirSpec
:)

Jari, what are you thoughts and comments on this?

Jarmo

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Charles S van der Linden
<sqapro at gmail.com>wrote:

> So I was watching some stuff for Windmill which appears to be some
> python based automation stuff, for all I know it's webdriver under the
> hood.
>
> Slick UI, record and playback (sigh don't get me started.) and a mix
> of identifying stuff by 'clean' means like ID, Class, or Name along
> with a ton of identification done by xpath (sigh, again don't get me
> started)
>
> No abstraction layer as far as I could tell.  bunch of other things
> I'd consider shortcomings, but a site rife with good demo videos and
> has that sexy appeal that people who've not been through the
> automation wringer always fall for.
>
> But with what did get my attention was their drag and drop stuff,
> which is becoming more and more in demand.
>
> I think this is the kind of thing that can help someone who wants to
> use watir to fight back against someone being seduced by a sexy UI
> that creates brittle tests.
>
> To start off with I think we ought to consider supporting two things I
> saw them demo  They called their methods "dragDropElem" and
> "dragDropElemToElem".  Not enthralled with the names, but like the
> functionality
>
> The first was fairly easy  just a drag and drop relative to the
> current location,  e.g.  browser.div(:how =>
> 'what').drag_relative(x,y)
> The second was more useful, dragging one element onto another.  e.g.
> browser.div(:how => 'what').drag_onto(-an element-)
>
> The question I would have for the second version is how to specify the
> target element?  Do you use some format like (:tag => 'div', :id =>
> 'drag_target')  or something different?
>
> (I dropped 'drop' from the method names since I think it's implied,
> once you start dragging what else can you do but drop the thing
> someplace.  Not in any way married to those names, just trying to give
> us something to work with.
>
> They give some actual useful examples in terms of manipulating slider
> controls where this kind of thing becomes pretty useful.  I think this
> is the site (or a version of it) they were automating against.
> http://yaxu.org/synth/jquery/demos/functional/  it would be
> interesting to see if you can easily work those controls with watir
> without a drag-drop capability.
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>
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From jarmo.p at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 02:29:20 2012
From: jarmo.p at gmail.com (Jarmo)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:29:20 +0200
Subject: [Wtr-development] HTML Elements Supported by Watir
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Charles S van der Linden
<sqapro at gmail.com>wrote:

> What does the color coding mean?
>

green means that singular AND plural methods are supported, yellow means
that only singular and white means that neither are supported.

If no-one is against it, then i'd like to add support to all missing
elements into Watir too :)

Jarmo
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From jarmo.p at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 03:31:25 2012
From: jarmo.p at gmail.com (Jarmo)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:31:25 +0200
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0 pre-announcement
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Wanted to point out that i ran the specs against IE8. It would be great if
anyone would run them against IE9 too! Hugh, did you have IE9 there?

Jarmo

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, i hadn't made the commit pointing to the newer watirspec. It should
> be fine now after you pull from bret/watir again. Make sure that the latest
> commit in `git log` for watirspec is a9b4b9.
>
> Sorry!
>
> Jarmo
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:09 AM, Jari Bakken <jari.bakken at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Hugh McGowan <colinsdaddy at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Jarmo, is everything checked in or am I doing something wrong? It seems
>>> like I'm not running the same thing you are as I'm seeing more failures
>>> than you did: https://gist.github.com/1623398.
>>>
>>>
>> Looks like a lot of failures are because #element{,s}_by_xpath is
>> deprecated (and thus made private in Watir 3), but watirspec isn't updated
>> to reflect this.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>
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From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 04:59:37 2012
From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:59:37 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] HTML Elements Supported by Watir
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:
> green means that singular AND plural methods are supported, yellow means
that only singular and white means that neither are supported.

Sorry, the book is not finished yet, the information is scattered:

https://github.com/zeljkofilipin/watirbook/blob/master/reference/elements.md

> If no-one is against it, then i'd like to add support to all missing
elements into Watir too :)

+1

?eljko
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From colinsdaddy at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 07:24:09 2012
From: colinsdaddy at gmail.com (Hugh McGowan)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 06:24:09 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0 pre-announcement
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Awesome, thanks Jarmo & Jari. Yup, I plan to look at IE9 - just wanted to
make sure we saw the same thing in IE8 before I switched over.
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From jari.bakken at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 08:59:00 2012
From: jari.bakken at gmail.com (Jari Bakken)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:59:00 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] DragDrop functionality
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Jari, what are you thoughts and comments on this?
>


Yeah, we should definitely have a common API, and it should definitely work
with Watir::Element instances.

WebDriver's API (though not universally supported yet) allows being very
specific about the location of drags - e.g. specifying the offsets (in
pixels) within the destination element. Perhaps
adding Element#drag_and_drop_on(other) is a good first step for Watir? I'd
prefer this over #drag_to(other) since the latter is ambigious about
whether you want to release the mouse once you've reached the destination
element.


Jari
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From colinsdaddy at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 14:49:23 2012
From: colinsdaddy at gmail.com (Hugh McGowan)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:49:23 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0 pre-announcement
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I am seeing things that need to be addressed for IE9. Some require changes
in the watir source and others are simply differing output: IE9 additional
failures <https://gist.github.com/1628302>. I'm still not getting the exact
same results Jarmo did for IE8, but I'm only seeing a few differences now: IE8
failures <https://gist.github.com/1623398>.

Jari, can I get the commit bit for watirspec or would you prefer me to send
pull requests?

Also Jarmo, is there a reason we're hard-coding the watirspec to a change
number? Seems like we'd be better off to just let watirspec:init get the
latest. I'm working through the IE9 issues now so between updating tests
and adding some code changes we should be able to get IE8 and IE9 to the
same level of support.
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From jarmo.p at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 16:41:54 2012
From: jarmo.p at gmail.com (Jarmo)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:41:54 +0200
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0 pre-announcement
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Hugh McGowan <colinsdaddy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Also Jarmo, is there a reason we're hard-coding the watirspec to a change
> number? Seems like we'd be better off to just let watirspec:init get the
> latest. I'm working through the IE9 issues now so between updating tests
> and adding some code changes we should be able to get IE8 and IE9 to the
> same level of support.


I have understood that the point with git submodules is to have same
version for everyone. I'm not sure though.

Seeing Button#click to fail for you make sure you're using latest Sinatra.
I was having failures with tests which were accessing
http://localhost:2000with older Sinatra since newer Sinatra has
"public_folder" as an option for
static content instead of "public" and WatirSpec uses "public_folder" as an
option.

Thanks for the work with IE9! Seeing IE9 failures i'm thinking that you
need to add new guard for IE9 so you could use "not_compliant_on" and
"deviates_on" guards in specs.

Jarmo
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From jari.bakken at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 17:19:59 2012
From: jari.bakken at gmail.com (Jari Bakken)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:19:59 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0 pre-announcement
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Hugh McGowan <colinsdaddy at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Also Jarmo, is there a reason we're hard-coding the watirspec to a change
>> number? Seems like we'd be better off to just let watirspec:init get the
>> latest. I'm working through the IE9 issues now so between updating tests
>> and adding some code changes we should be able to get IE8 and IE9 to the
>> same level of support.
>
>
> I have understood that the point with git submodules is to have same
> version for everyone. I'm not sure though.
>

Yes, that's how submodules work.
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From jari.bakken at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 17:20:43 2012
From: jari.bakken at gmail.com (Jari Bakken)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:20:43 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] Watir 3.0 pre-announcement
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Hugh McGowan <colinsdaddy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jari, can I get the commit bit for watirspec or would you prefer me to
> send pull requests?
>
>
 I'll move watirspec to the watir organisation - then all members will have
commit access (I think).

Jari
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From jari.bakken at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 17:49:17 2012
From: jari.bakken at gmail.com (Jari Bakken)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:49:17 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] watir-webdriver and watirspec moved
Message-ID: <CAEMjNnJLwmJpu_d9nFLSR1-=6V0QXvPwUZ+vAryybc-HdgOhHw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I've transferred my watirspec and watir-webdriver repos to the watir
organization on github:

  https://github.com/watir/watir-webdriver
  https://github.com/watir/watirspec

I've also updated watir-webdriver, watir and celerity to point to the new
watirspec repo.

Easiest way to bring your clones in sync (assuming you don't have local
changes in spec/watirspec you want to keep) is to just wipe away the
submodule and re-update:

$ rm -rf spec/watirspec
$ git config submodule.spec/watirspec.url git at github.com:watir/watirspec.git
$ git submodule init
$ git submodule update

Unfortunately GitHub doesn't set up redirects from the old repo to the new
- so any links to these repos will need to be updated.

Jari
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From jari.bakken at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 17:51:18 2012
From: jari.bakken at gmail.com (Jari Bakken)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:51:18 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] watir-webdriver and watirspec moved
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Oh, and existing watir-webdriver or watirspec clones will of course need to
be pointed to the new URLs, e.g.:

$ git remote set-url origin git at github.com:watir/watir-webdriver.git

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Jari Bakken <jari.bakken at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've transferred my watirspec and watir-webdriver repos to the watir
> organization on github:
>
>   https://github.com/watir/watir-webdriver
>   https://github.com/watir/watirspec
>
> I've also updated watir-webdriver, watir and celerity to point to the new
> watirspec repo.
>
> Easiest way to bring your clones in sync (assuming you don't have local
> changes in spec/watirspec you want to keep) is to just wipe away the
> submodule and re-update:
>
> $ rm -rf spec/watirspec
> $ git config submodule.spec/watirspec.url git at github.com:
> watir/watirspec.git
> $ git submodule init
> $ git submodule update
>
> Unfortunately GitHub doesn't set up redirects from the old repo to the new
> - so any links to these repos will need to be updated.
>
> Jari
>
>
>
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From jari.bakken at gmail.com  Tue Jan 17 18:36:43 2012
From: jari.bakken at gmail.com (Jari Bakken)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 00:36:43 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] watir-webdriver and watirspec moved
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In order to still receive GitHub notifications for the repos, I've added
two teams to the organization and added myself to them:
watir-webdriver-team and watirspec-team. Owners do not receive
notifications by default, but can add themselves to any team.

Jari
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From jarmo.p at gmail.com  Wed Jan 18 07:00:16 2012
From: jarmo.p at gmail.com (Jarmo)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:00:16 +0200
Subject: [Wtr-development] watir-webdriver and watirspec moved
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That's awesome!

How is this done? Should i create repository under watir and then push
watir there or is there some easier way?

J.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Jari Bakken <jari.bakken at gmail.com> wrote:

> In order to still receive GitHub notifications for the repos, I've added
> two teams to the organization and added myself to them:
> watir-webdriver-team and watirspec-team. Owners do not receive
> notifications by default, but can add themselves to any team.
>
> Jari
>
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From watirjira at gmail.com  Wed Jan 18 07:04:32 2012
From: watirjira at gmail.com (Jarmo Pertman (JIRA))
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:04:32 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Wtr-development] [JIRA] Commented: (WTR-497) Watir not identifyign
 browser when user click on a link to open another browser where that is not
 a html page (pdf file in a browser)
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    [ http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-497?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=20401#action_20401 ] 

Jarmo Pertman commented on WTR-497:
-----------------------------------

Why would you like to attach to that window anyway? Just configure your IE to not open PDF-s by default, but allow to save them to the disk where you could verify the contents of that pdf too.

> Watir not identifyign browser when user click on a link to open another browser where that is not a html page (pdf file in a browser)
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: WTR-497
>                 URL: http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-497
>             Project: Watir
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: Other
>    Affects Versions: 1.9.1
>         Environment: Windows 7, 2,54 GHZ speed and 4 GB RAM
>            Reporter: Durga Prasad
>            Priority: Major
>             Fix For: 1.9.2
>
>
> When I am attaching new window then it shows error message
> Failure/Error: $ie2 = Watir::IE.attach(:url, /url name entered/) #That url opens pdf file in a browser
> NoMethodError:
> unknown property or method: `readyState'
> HRESULT error code:0?80020006
> Unknown name.
> # ./rspecsupport.rb:303:in `block (3 levels) in '
> Can you please help me on this

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From watirjira at gmail.com  Wed Jan 18 07:04:32 2012
From: watirjira at gmail.com (Jarmo Pertman (JIRA))
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:04:32 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Wtr-development] [JIRA] Closed: (WTR-496) method_missing for
 row.cells but work for row.tds
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     [ http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-496?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Jarmo Pertman closed WTR-496.
-----------------------------

    Resolution: Fixed

This is fixed in 3.0

>  method_missing for row.cells but work for row.tds
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: WTR-496
>                 URL: http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-496
>             Project: Watir
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: Other
>    Affects Versions: 2.0
>         Environment: Win7 64, IE9, Ruby 1.9.3 p0 (Ruby 1.8.7)
>            Reporter: Sergey Erokhin
>
> Same error on ruby 1.8.7, and clean 1.9.3
> Code work ok on watir 1.9.2
>         id="cph_rpt#{entity}s_prrow_#{row_n}"
>         row=$ie.row(:id => id)
>         while row.exist?
>           ret_list << row.cells[cell_n].text
>           row_n+=1
>           id="cph_rpt#{entity}s_prrow_#{row_n}"
>           row=$ie.row(:id => id)
>         end
> failed with error 
> private method `cells' called for #<Watir::TableRow:0x59d4d88>
>  stack trace: C:/Ruby/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/watir-2.0.4/lib/watir/element.rb:447:in `method_missing'
> but when i change code (cells -> tds) 
>       ret_list << row.tds[cell_n].text
> work fine ...

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From watirjira at gmail.com  Wed Jan 18 07:08:31 2012
From: watirjira at gmail.com (Jarmo Pertman (JIRA))
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:08:31 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Wtr-development] [JIRA] Closed: (WTR-340) watirspec: Image#save
 and FileField#set should fix path for windows
Message-ID: <3531328.8.1326888511619.JavaMail.oqa-j2ee@openqa01.managed.contegix.com>


     [ http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-340?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Jarmo Pertman closed WTR-340.
-----------------------------

    Resolution: Fixed

These are fixed in 3.0

> watirspec: Image#save and FileField#set should fix path for windows
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: WTR-340
>                 URL: http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-340
>             Project: Watir
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: Save File
>    Affects Versions: 1.6.2
>         Environment: Watir::IE on WinXP
>            Reporter: Jari Bakken
>             Fix For: Soon
>
>
> 61)
> 'Image#save saves an image to file' FAILED
> expected true, got false
> ./spec/watirspec/image_spec.rb:208:
> 32)
> 'FileField#set is able to set a file path in the field and click the upload button and fire the onchange event' FAILED
> expected: "Z:/git/watir/spec/watirspec/filefield_spec.rb",
>      got: "" (using ==)
> ./spec/watirspec/filefield_spec.rb:114:

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From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com  Wed Jan 18 07:58:30 2012
From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:58:30 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] watir-webdriver and watirspec moved
In-Reply-To: <CAEMjNnJLwmJpu_d9nFLSR1-=6V0QXvPwUZ+vAryybc-HdgOhHw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEMjNnJLwmJpu_d9nFLSR1-=6V0QXvPwUZ+vAryybc-HdgOhHw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABfBeAoAfoBtzCEezBqenQvbQF_DqEaD2fEWx58z-h8t-XOY+Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Jari Bakken <jari.bakken at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've also updated watir-webdriver, watir and celerity to point to the new
watirspec repo.

Why did't you move celerity repo to watir organization?

Would it make sense if I moved my watirbook repo there too?

?eljko
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From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com  Wed Jan 18 08:03:28 2012
From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:03:28 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] watir-webdriver and watirspec moved
In-Reply-To: <CAHZHd6UhqrkZq492UX=XtjAHK1=rJTWqv+zA2m86kLb923F2WQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEMjNnJLwmJpu_d9nFLSR1-=6V0QXvPwUZ+vAryybc-HdgOhHw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMjNnJHeMwiQr3AoUGyBHVQKY6APLTN=eUi+2Vou5KHCQBKsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMjNnJrdcn+O_O-J3bMEY+FEjqi=daP_zycpQfq3fOABTNaCg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHZHd6UhqrkZq492UX=XtjAHK1=rJTWqv+zA2m86kLb923F2WQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABfBeAp2ELCGDv2_DkdGPL2_+cj1rbdZJcjZpOF3QQ1+J5jGdA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:
> How is this done? Should i create repository under watir and then push
watir there or is there some easier way?

Are you asking how to move https://github.com/bret/watir to
https://github.com/organizations/watir?

I think this should do it:

- go to https://github.com/bret/watir/admin
- at the bottom of the page there is "Danger Zone?" section
- select "watir" in "new owner" drop down
- click "Transfer"

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From jarmo.p at gmail.com  Wed Jan 18 08:43:14 2012
From: jarmo.p at gmail.com (Jarmo)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:43:14 +0200
Subject: [Wtr-development] watir-webdriver and watirspec moved
In-Reply-To: <CABfBeAp2ELCGDv2_DkdGPL2_+cj1rbdZJcjZpOF3QQ1+J5jGdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEMjNnJLwmJpu_d9nFLSR1-=6V0QXvPwUZ+vAryybc-HdgOhHw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMjNnJHeMwiQr3AoUGyBHVQKY6APLTN=eUi+2Vou5KHCQBKsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMjNnJrdcn+O_O-J3bMEY+FEjqi=daP_zycpQfq3fOABTNaCg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHZHd6UhqrkZq492UX=XtjAHK1=rJTWqv+zA2m86kLb923F2WQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABfBeAp2ELCGDv2_DkdGPL2_+cj1rbdZJcjZpOF3QQ1+J5jGdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHZHd6XJ0FLnK0=6mYxh15RB+NcpBRJbNW02hhTHGNMTXZ9q+g@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, that means that Bret has to do it, since i don't have access to Admin
area for Watir repository.

Jarmo

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:03 PM, ?eljko Filipin <zeljko.filipin at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:
> > How is this done? Should i create repository under watir and then push
> watir there or is there some easier way?
>
> Are you asking how to move https://github.com/bret/watir to
> https://github.com/organizations/watir?
>
> I think this should do it:
>
> - go to https://github.com/bret/watir/admin
> - at the bottom of the page there is "Danger Zone?" section
> - select "watir" in "new owner" drop down
> - click "Transfer"
>
> ?eljko
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
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From jari.bakken at gmail.com  Wed Jan 18 08:46:52 2012
From: jari.bakken at gmail.com (Jari Bakken)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:46:52 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] watir-webdriver and watirspec moved
In-Reply-To: <CAHZHd6UhqrkZq492UX=XtjAHK1=rJTWqv+zA2m86kLb923F2WQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEMjNnJLwmJpu_d9nFLSR1-=6V0QXvPwUZ+vAryybc-HdgOhHw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMjNnJHeMwiQr3AoUGyBHVQKY6APLTN=eUi+2Vou5KHCQBKsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMjNnJrdcn+O_O-J3bMEY+FEjqi=daP_zycpQfq3fOABTNaCg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHZHd6UhqrkZq492UX=XtjAHK1=rJTWqv+zA2m86kLb923F2WQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's awesome!
>
> How is this done? Should i create repository under watir and then push
> watir there or is there some easier way?
>
>
The repo owner (i.e. Bret) needs to go to
https://github.com/bret/watir/admin and select the watir organization under
"Transfer ownership".

J.
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Jari Bakken <jari.bakken at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> In order to still receive GitHub notifications for the repos, I've added
>> two teams to the organization and added myself to them:
>> watir-webdriver-team and watirspec-team. Owners do not receive
>> notifications by default, but can add themselves to any team.
>>
>> Jari
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>
>
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From jari.bakken at gmail.com  Wed Jan 18 08:47:26 2012
From: jari.bakken at gmail.com (Jari Bakken)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:47:26 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] watir-webdriver and watirspec moved
In-Reply-To: <CABfBeAp2ELCGDv2_DkdGPL2_+cj1rbdZJcjZpOF3QQ1+J5jGdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEMjNnJLwmJpu_d9nFLSR1-=6V0QXvPwUZ+vAryybc-HdgOhHw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMjNnJHeMwiQr3AoUGyBHVQKY6APLTN=eUi+2Vou5KHCQBKsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMjNnJrdcn+O_O-J3bMEY+FEjqi=daP_zycpQfq3fOABTNaCg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHZHd6UhqrkZq492UX=XtjAHK1=rJTWqv+zA2m86kLb923F2WQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABfBeAp2ELCGDv2_DkdGPL2_+cj1rbdZJcjZpOF3QQ1+J5jGdA@mail.gmail.com>
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Oops, you beat me to it ?eljko

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:03 PM, ?eljko Filipin <zeljko.filipin at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:
> > How is this done? Should i create repository under watir and then push
> watir there or is there some easier way?
>
> Are you asking how to move https://github.com/bret/watir to
> https://github.com/organizations/watir?
>
> I think this should do it:
>
> - go to https://github.com/bret/watir/admin
> - at the bottom of the page there is "Danger Zone?" section
> - select "watir" in "new owner" drop down
> - click "Transfer"
>
> ?eljko
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
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From jarmo.p at gmail.com  Wed Jan 18 08:56:08 2012
From: jarmo.p at gmail.com (Jarmo)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:56:08 +0200
Subject: [Wtr-development] watir-webdriver and watirspec moved
In-Reply-To: <CAEMjNnJLwmJpu_d9nFLSR1-=6V0QXvPwUZ+vAryybc-HdgOhHw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEMjNnJLwmJpu_d9nFLSR1-=6V0QXvPwUZ+vAryybc-HdgOhHw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHZHd6VWyQ9oZBpdrqDTiVi-ZS0U=G1zPdY9a+r4F1CsrTqcpw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Jari Bakken <jari.bakken at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've also updated watir-webdriver, watir and celerity to point to the new
> watirspec repo.
>

I don't see any commits related with .gitmodules in watir repo master
branch. Did you forget to push these changes?

J.
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From jari.bakken at gmail.com  Wed Jan 18 14:47:24 2012
From: jari.bakken at gmail.com (Jari Bakken)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:47:24 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] watir-webdriver and watirspec moved
In-Reply-To: <CAHZHd6VWyQ9oZBpdrqDTiVi-ZS0U=G1zPdY9a+r4F1CsrTqcpw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEMjNnJLwmJpu_d9nFLSR1-=6V0QXvPwUZ+vAryybc-HdgOhHw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHZHd6VWyQ9oZBpdrqDTiVi-ZS0U=G1zPdY9a+r4F1CsrTqcpw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEMjNnKS3Md9dZ964e9r0OJGCFq3E+g7DdKc72z7gJFSKXpvXg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I don't see any commits related with .gitmodules in watir repo master
> branch. Did you forget to push these changes?
>
>
>
Yeah, sorry - I pushed to jarib/watir, not bret/watir. Fixed now.
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From watirjira at gmail.com  Wed Jan 18 14:59:32 2012
From: watirjira at gmail.com (Michael M (JIRA))
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:59:32 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Wtr-development] [JIRA] Created: (WTR-498) select_value fails in
	Watir 3.0.rc1
Message-ID: <475507.11.1326916772263.JavaMail.oqa-j2ee@openqa01.managed.contegix.com>

select_value fails in Watir 3.0.rc1
-----------------------------------

                 Key: WTR-498
                 URL: http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-498
             Project: Watir
          Issue Type: Bug
          Components: Inputs
    Affects Versions: Soon
         Environment: Windows Server 2008 R1 64-bit, Internet Explorer 8 32-bit
            Reporter: Michael M
            Priority: Blocker



The following issue is occurring with Watir 3.0.rc1, while using select_value. The option in the select list is a regular value (not a optgroup) and it is correctly selected before this exception occurs.

  NoMethodError: undefined method `optgroup' for #<Watir::Element:0x..fb3e605c2 located=true how=nil what=nil>
    C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/element.rb:518:in `method_missing'
    C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/element.rb:155:in `to_subtype'
    C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/element.rb:220:in `parent'
    C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/input_elements.rb:131:in `select_list'
    C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/input_elements.rb:99:in `block in select'
    C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/element.rb:502:in `perform_action'
    C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/input_elements.rb:96:in `select'
    C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/input_elements.rb:57:in `each'
    C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/input_elements.rb:57:in `select_value'

Code causing the exception:
  hostType = browser.select_list( :name, 'HOSTTYPE' )
  hostType.select_value( 'WINNT' )

Gems:
  activesupport (3.1.3)
  ansi (1.4.1)
  builder (3.0.0)
  commonwatir (3.0.0.rc1, 2.0.4)
  ffi (1.0.11)
  hoe (2.12.5)
  minitest (2.10.1)
  multi_json (1.0.4)
  nokogiri (1.5.0 x86-mingw32)
  rake (0.9.2.2)
  rautomation (0.6.3)
  rubygems-update (1.8.15)
  s4t-utils (1.0.4)
  sqlite3 (1.3.5 x86-mingw32)
  user-choices (1.1.6.1)
  uuidtools (2.1.2)
  watir (3.0.0.rc1)
  win32-api (1.4.8 x86-mingw32)
  win32-clipboard (0.5.2)
  win32-process (0.6.5)
  win32console (1.3.0 x86-mingw32)
  windows-api (0.4.0)
  windows-pr (1.2.1)
  xml-simple (1.1.1)

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From bret at pettichord.com  Wed Jan 18 16:05:41 2012
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:05:41 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] WatirBook Repo
Message-ID: <CAPjkWY0Cf4zOE5cS3+SSJWSUmcPM35cYcHVJcwzNLf+NiPWwMg@mail.gmail.com>

Zeljko,

Would you describe watirbook as your own personal project or as a community
documentation project?

Bret

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:58 AM, ?eljko Filipin <zeljko.filipin at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Jari Bakken <jari.bakken at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I've also updated watir-webdriver, watir and celerity to point to the
> new watirspec repo.
>
> Why did't you move celerity repo to watir organization?
>
> Would it make sense if I moved my watirbook repo there too?
>
> ?eljko
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>



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From bret at pettichord.com  Wed Jan 18 16:07:03 2012
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:07:03 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] watir-webdriver and watirspec moved
In-Reply-To: <CABfBeAp2ELCGDv2_DkdGPL2_+cj1rbdZJcjZpOF3QQ1+J5jGdA@mail.gmail.com>
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I will do this when Hugh and Jarmo give me the go ahead.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 7:03 AM, ?eljko Filipin <zeljko.filipin at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:
> > How is this done? Should i create repository under watir and then push
> watir there or is there some easier way?
>
> Are you asking how to move https://github.com/bret/watir to
> https://github.com/organizations/watir?
>
> I think this should do it:
>
> - go to https://github.com/bret/watir/admin
> - at the bottom of the page there is "Danger Zone?" section
> - select "watir" in "new owner" drop down
> - click "Transfer"
>
> ?eljko
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>



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From bret at pettichord.com  Wed Jan 18 16:25:45 2012
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:25:45 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] watir-webdriver and watirspec moved
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	<CAEMjNnJrdcn+O_O-J3bMEY+FEjqi=daP_zycpQfq3fOABTNaCg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHZHd6UhqrkZq492UX=XtjAHK1=rJTWqv+zA2m86kLb923F2WQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABfBeAp2ELCGDv2_DkdGPL2_+cj1rbdZJcjZpOF3QQ1+J5jGdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPjkWY0RshJYBm8+qDbrxs3WxyzG7L3eL6=uWEPJLGdcW4P_BQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPjkWY3-gGRgMWS8DAATr7oL1-eiqOt9jA3FvQpC7sh1Fa0xfQ@mail.gmail.com>

OK, this is now done.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>wrote:

> I will do this when Hugh and Jarmo give me the go ahead.
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 7:03 AM, ?eljko Filipin <zeljko.filipin at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > How is this done? Should i create repository under watir and then push
>> watir there or is there some easier way?
>>
>> Are you asking how to move https://github.com/bret/watir to
>> https://github.com/organizations/watir?
>>
>> I think this should do it:
>>
>> - go to https://github.com/bret/watir/admin
>> - at the bottom of the page there is "Danger Zone?" section
>> - select "watir" in "new owner" drop down
>> - click "Transfer"
>>
>> ?eljko
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wtr-development mailing list
>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Bret Pettichord
> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>
> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>
>


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From jarmo.p at gmail.com  Thu Jan 19 01:56:41 2012
From: jarmo.p at gmail.com (Jarmo)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:56:41 +0200
Subject: [Wtr-development] watir-webdriver and watirspec moved
In-Reply-To: <CAPjkWY3-gGRgMWS8DAATr7oL1-eiqOt9jA3FvQpC7sh1Fa0xfQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEMjNnJLwmJpu_d9nFLSR1-=6V0QXvPwUZ+vAryybc-HdgOhHw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMjNnJHeMwiQr3AoUGyBHVQKY6APLTN=eUi+2Vou5KHCQBKsg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMjNnJrdcn+O_O-J3bMEY+FEjqi=daP_zycpQfq3fOABTNaCg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHZHd6UhqrkZq492UX=XtjAHK1=rJTWqv+zA2m86kLb923F2WQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABfBeAp2ELCGDv2_DkdGPL2_+cj1rbdZJcjZpOF3QQ1+J5jGdA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPjkWY0RshJYBm8+qDbrxs3WxyzG7L3eL6=uWEPJLGdcW4P_BQ@mail.gmail.com>
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That's great :) Thanks!

Jarmo

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>wrote:

> OK, this is now done.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>wrote:
>
>> I will do this when Hugh and Jarmo give me the go ahead.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 7:03 AM, ?eljko Filipin <zeljko.filipin at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > How is this done? Should i create repository under watir and then push
>>> watir there or is there some easier way?
>>>
>>> Are you asking how to move https://github.com/bret/watir to
>>> https://github.com/organizations/watir?
>>>
>>> I think this should do it:
>>>
>>> - go to https://github.com/bret/watir/admin
>>> - at the bottom of the page there is "Danger Zone?" section
>>> - select "watir" in "new owner" drop down
>>> - click "Transfer"
>>>
>>> ?eljko
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Wtr-development mailing list
>>> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bret Pettichord
>> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>>
>> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
>> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Bret Pettichord
> Director, Watir Project, www.watir.com
>
> Blog, www.testingwithvision.com
> Twitter, www.twitter.com/bpettichord
>
>
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> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
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From jarmo.p at gmail.com  Thu Jan 19 01:59:38 2012
From: jarmo.p at gmail.com (Jarmo)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:59:38 +0200
Subject: [Wtr-development] license details
Message-ID: <CAHZHd6Wwk6s3JvRpr2i7RLCod6O0AXQ7r_bMoJgvtk+NZtK-qw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

I just opened up LICENSE to update the year to 2012, but noticed that it's
not too easy, since there are mentioned different people with different
years and we've already missed 2012 :P What should be the new output for it?

https://github.com/watir/watir/blob/master/LICENSE

Jarmo
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From jari.bakken at gmail.com  Thu Jan 19 07:05:21 2012
From: jari.bakken at gmail.com (Jari Bakken)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:05:21 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] DragDrop functionality
In-Reply-To: <CAEMjNnKtzwgczb2SXXsj+5djbx6NpcNLir_478pjqsGZW0XRiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHJU+E3tP1auKtX=mf6AEW-D7RbCojfHX03Ss1u5PKL7S7EQwg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHZHd6V34cvmo_kcx6Ma2-Yj0p2xB8i_B0zusxSBqSR-GJmfHQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEMjNnKtzwgczb2SXXsj+5djbx6NpcNLir_478pjqsGZW0XRiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEMjNnJZDvQJrhbQEwtMYki23LFkMR484VJ-y4d3fTKD5Ecn0A@mail.gmail.com>

By the way, this is a nice "getting involved" opportunity - add some specs
to watirspec that tests Element#drag_and_drop_on(other), e.g. using jQuery
UI.


On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Jari Bakken <jari.bakken at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Jari, what are you thoughts and comments on this?
>>
>
>
> Yeah, we should definitely have a common API, and it should definitely
> work with Watir::Element instances.
>
> WebDriver's API (though not universally supported yet) allows being very
> specific about the location of drags - e.g. specifying the offsets (in
> pixels) within the destination element. Perhaps
> adding Element#drag_and_drop_on(other) is a good first step for Watir? I'd
> prefer this over #drag_to(other) since the latter is ambigious about
> whether you want to release the mouse once you've reached the destination
> element.
>
>
> Jari
>
>
>
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From watirjira at gmail.com  Thu Jan 19 10:29:33 2012
From: watirjira at gmail.com (Jarmo Pertman (JIRA))
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 09:29:33 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Wtr-development] [JIRA] Closed: (WTR-498) select_value fails in
	Watir 3.0.rc1
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     [ http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-498?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Jarmo Pertman closed WTR-498.
-----------------------------

    Resolution: Fixed

Fixed in https://github.com/watir/watir/commit/b6a32f4cebc4864550da8a8e272561adac956a1c

> select_value fails in Watir 3.0.rc1
> -----------------------------------
>
>                 Key: WTR-498
>                 URL: http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-498
>             Project: Watir
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: Inputs
>    Affects Versions: Soon
>         Environment: Windows Server 2008 R1 64-bit, Internet Explorer 8 32-bit
>            Reporter: Michael M
>            Priority: Blocker
>
> The following issue is occurring with Watir 3.0.rc1, while using select_value. The option in the select list is a regular value (not a optgroup) and it is correctly selected before this exception occurs.
>   NoMethodError: undefined method `optgroup' for #<Watir::Element:0x..fb3e605c2 located=true how=nil what=nil>
>     C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/element.rb:518:in `method_missing'
>     C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/element.rb:155:in `to_subtype'
>     C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/element.rb:220:in `parent'
>     C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/input_elements.rb:131:in `select_list'
>     C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/input_elements.rb:99:in `block in select'
>     C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/element.rb:502:in `perform_action'
>     C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/input_elements.rb:96:in `select'
>     C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/input_elements.rb:57:in `each'
>     C:/Ruby192/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/watir-3.0.0.rc1/lib/watir/input_elements.rb:57:in `select_value'
> Code causing the exception:
>   hostType = browser.select_list( :name, 'HOSTTYPE' )
>   hostType.select_value( 'WINNT' )
> Gems:
>   activesupport (3.1.3)
>   ansi (1.4.1)
>   builder (3.0.0)
>   commonwatir (3.0.0.rc1, 2.0.4)
>   ffi (1.0.11)
>   hoe (2.12.5)
>   minitest (2.10.1)
>   multi_json (1.0.4)
>   nokogiri (1.5.0 x86-mingw32)
>   rake (0.9.2.2)
>   rautomation (0.6.3)
>   rubygems-update (1.8.15)
>   s4t-utils (1.0.4)
>   sqlite3 (1.3.5 x86-mingw32)
>   user-choices (1.1.6.1)
>   uuidtools (2.1.2)
>   watir (3.0.0.rc1)
>   win32-api (1.4.8 x86-mingw32)
>   win32-clipboard (0.5.2)
>   win32-process (0.6.5)
>   win32console (1.3.0 x86-mingw32)
>   windows-api (0.4.0)
>   windows-pr (1.2.1)
>   xml-simple (1.1.1)

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From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com  Thu Jan 19 11:16:21 2012
From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:16:21 +0100
Subject: [Wtr-development] WatirBook Repo
In-Reply-To: <CAPjkWY0Cf4zOE5cS3+SSJWSUmcPM35cYcHVJcwzNLf+NiPWwMg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPjkWY0Cf4zOE5cS3+SSJWSUmcPM35cYcHVJcwzNLf+NiPWwMg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABfBeAoZhsrG+JuK6duOgzaxw0HUw6_A1VJXJAgu-E3N=aLiNQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>
wrote:
> Would you describe watirbook as your own personal project or as a
community documentation project?

The project is under a creative commons license and I am open to
contributions. For now I am the only major contributor, but I got a few
minor contributions so far. Several people said they would write a chapter
or two, but nobody did it so far.

Alister said I could use information from his watir-webdriver site for the
book. When I do that, he will become another major contributor.

It would be great if somebody else joined the project. I did not have a lot
of time to work on it in the last few months, but that will change next
week. I hope to release a new version of the book in the next week or two.
(But I am saying that for the last month or two, so do not hold your
breath.)

For the last 3 months I got about $100 each month from the book sales. I
still have to figure out how to split the money if I get more contributors.

?eljko
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From bret at pettichord.com  Thu Jan 19 22:48:23 2012
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:48:23 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] WatirBook Repo
In-Reply-To: <CABfBeAoZhsrG+JuK6duOgzaxw0HUw6_A1VJXJAgu-E3N=aLiNQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPjkWY0Cf4zOE5cS3+SSJWSUmcPM35cYcHVJcwzNLf+NiPWwMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABfBeAoZhsrG+JuK6duOgzaxw0HUw6_A1VJXJAgu-E3N=aLiNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPjkWY3OyjVqrmCTE_79dBv6t=b99BQB=nmvHnHZpRf9jsqWfw@mail.gmail.com>

Right now, it feels like the watirbook is run somewhat differently from the
rest of the watir projects, where we don't really allocate contributions
amongst contributors. We are in the process of formalizing the Watir
project, with our SFC application, which defines the rules for how
we receive and allocate funds.

I'm going to interpret your question as a inquiry as to whether the
watirbook project would be eligible for inclusion with the greater Watir
project. My answer is that you are welcome to apply, your application would
need to be reviewed by the voting members of the Watir team, although, I
personally would be in favor of it. You would also have to combine finances
with the larger project. I'm not sure I would want to retain the
contributor-kickback structure you've obviously spent a lot of time on,
however. Again, I think this question would also have to be decided by the
Watir team as a whole. You also have some policies on refunds that I would
not want to have as part of the Watir project.

There is also a section in your book called "Me and My Book". This is one
of the things that makes it feel to me like a personal project instead of a
community project, but it sounds like this is something you are happy to
change and are eager to get other contributors. I think I would be more
eager to add it, if it actually was a project that more than one person was
contributing to. So maybe the next step should be for you to work on
finding more contributors.

That is how I see it. I am open to other interpretations.

Bret


On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:16 AM, ?eljko Filipin
<zeljko.filipin at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>
> wrote:
> > Would you describe watirbook as your own personal project or as a
> community documentation project?
>
> The project is under a creative commons license and I am open to
> contributions. For now I am the only major contributor, but I got a few
> minor contributions so far. Several people said they would write a chapter
> or two, but nobody did it so far.
>
> Alister said I could use information from his watir-webdriver site for the
> book. When I do that, he will become another major contributor.
>
> It would be great if somebody else joined the project. I did not have a
> lot of time to work on it in the last few months, but that will change next
> week. I hope to release a new version of the book in the next week or two.
> (But I am saying that for the last month or two, so do not hold your
> breath.)
>
> For the last 3 months I got about $100 each month from the book sales. I
> still have to figure out how to split the money if I get more contributors.
>
> ?eljko
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>



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From bret at pettichord.com  Thu Jan 19 22:50:31 2012
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:50:31 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] license details
In-Reply-To: <CAHZHd6Wwk6s3JvRpr2i7RLCod6O0AXQ7r_bMoJgvtk+NZtK-qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHZHd6Wwk6s3JvRpr2i7RLCod6O0AXQ7r_bMoJgvtk+NZtK-qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPjkWY0UWU-9XCsc32KULMyVDBAYgFfdP=FJ2bObLzC-RBNkvw@mail.gmail.com>

We will transfer ownership to the Software Freedom Conservancy if they
accept our application and their lawyers will advise us on how to handle
this.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Jarmo <jarmo.p at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I just opened up LICENSE to update the year to 2012, but noticed that it's
> not too easy, since there are mentioned different people with different
> years and we've already missed 2012 :P What should be the new output for it?
>
> https://github.com/watir/watir/blob/master/LICENSE
>
> Jarmo
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wtr-development mailing list
> Wtr-development at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/wtr-development
>



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From watirjira at gmail.com  Sat Jan 21 15:50:44 2012
From: watirjira at gmail.com (Barry Yu (JIRA))
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:50:44 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Wtr-development] [JIRA] Created: (WTR-499) Tk crashes after
 invoking watir in a thread
Message-ID: <3599566.5.1327179044448.JavaMail.oqa-j2ee@openqa01.managed.contegix.com>

Tk crashes after invoking watir in a thread
-------------------------------------------

                 Key: WTR-499
                 URL: http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-499
             Project: Watir
          Issue Type: Bug
          Components: Other
    Affects Versions: 1.9.1
         Environment: Windows 7, IE, PC
            Reporter: Barry Yu
            Priority: Major


I use Tk to create GUI to invoke watir. When I click a button, IE 
window should be opened. To avoid the freezing UI, I put it into a new 
thread. This worked until everything finished and I closed Tk window. 
There will be segmentation fault. I am not familar with Thread in 
Ruby. Should I clean something after a thread is done? 

Here is the simplified code. If you run this code, you will get a 
segmentation erro when closing the Tk window. 


require 'tk' 
require 'watir' 
root = TkRoot.new() { title "test watir" } 

Thread.new{ 
browser = Watir::IE.new 
sleep(2) 
browser.close 
} 
Tk.mainloop() 


Here is the error msg: 


segerr.rb: [BUG] Segmentation fault 
ruby 1.9.3p0 (2011-10-30) [i386-mingw32] 


-- Control frame information 
----------------------------------------------- 
c:0001 p:0000 s:0002 b:0002 l:001bd4 d:001bd4 TOP 


-- C level backtrace information 
------------------------------------------- 
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll(NtWaitForSingleObject+0x15) [0x77a5f8c1] 
C:\Windows\syswow64\kernel32.dll(WaitForSingleObjectEx+0x43) 
[0x75571194] 
C:\Windows\syswow64\kernel32.dll(WaitForSingleObject+0x12) 
[0x75571148] 
C:\Users\mememe\Ruby193tk\bin\msvcrt-ruby191.dll(rb_vm_bugreport+0xf9) 
[0x62e5acc9 
] 
C:\Users\mememe\Ruby193tk\bin\msvcrt-ruby191.dll(rb_name_err_mesg_new 
+0x17a) [0x62 
d3a68e] 
C:\Users\mememe\Ruby193tk\bin\msvcrt-ruby191.dll(rb_bug+0x2f) 
[0x62d3b3ef] 
C:\Users\mememe\Ruby193tk\bin\msvcrt-ruby191.dll(rb_check_safe_str 
+0x1a4) [0x62ded 
27c] 
 [0x004011e6] 
C:\Users\mememe\Ruby193tk\lib\ruby\gems\1.9.1\gems\watir-2.0.4\lib 
\watir\IEDialog\ 
Release\IEDialog.dll(DoButtonClick+0x5215) [0x10006985] 
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll(RtlKnownExceptionFilter+0xb7) 
[0x77ab21d7] 





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From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com  Sat Jan 21 20:49:25 2012
From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=)
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 19:49:25 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] WatirBook Repo
In-Reply-To: <CAPjkWY3OyjVqrmCTE_79dBv6t=b99BQB=nmvHnHZpRf9jsqWfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPjkWY0Cf4zOE5cS3+SSJWSUmcPM35cYcHVJcwzNLf+NiPWwMg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABfBeAoZhsrG+JuK6duOgzaxw0HUw6_A1VJXJAgu-E3N=aLiNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPjkWY3OyjVqrmCTE_79dBv6t=b99BQB=nmvHnHZpRf9jsqWfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABfBeAokiRJR+55Q8x86U_8jNVFOmXOfJPdN9qBC2dr95ezEVA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Bret,

comments are inline.

?eljko

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>
wrote:
> You would also have to combine finances with the larger project. I'm not
sure I would want to retain the contributor-kickback structure you've
obviously spent a lot of time on, however.

I did not spend a lot of time on that. I am just thinking what would be
fair. The amounts are so small that probably the simplest thing would be to
simply give all money from the book to the Watir project.

> You also have some policies on refunds that I would not want to have as
part of the Watir project.

I got only one request for refund so far, the buyer did not know the book
was not finished.

> There is also a section in your book called "Me and My Book". This is one
of the things that makes it feel to me like a personal project instead of a
community project, but it sounds like this is something you are happy to
change and are eager to get other contributors.

Yes. The section should be titled something like "about the book", listing
major contributors.

> I think I would be more eager to add it, if it actually was a project
that more than one person was contributing to. So maybe the next step
should be for you to work on finding more contributors.

I will help one potential contributor with setting up Git this or the next
week, so I am hoping the contributions will start coming in.

I moved to Guadalajara (Mexico) for a 6 week project and I hope I will have
more time in the next few months to work on the book.

?eljko
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From bret at pettichord.com  Tue Jan 24 11:12:40 2012
From: bret at pettichord.com (Bret Pettichord)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:12:40 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] WatirBook Repo
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Zeljko,

Let's chat about this sometime. Since you are now in the same time zone as
me, that shouldn't be too hard. I'm often available by skype in the
evenings.

Bret

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 7:49 PM, ?eljko Filipin <zeljko.filipin at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Bret,
>
> comments are inline.
>
> ?eljko
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>
> wrote:
> > You would also have to combine finances with the larger project. I'm not
> sure I would want to retain the contributor-kickback structure you've
> obviously spent a lot of time on, however.
>
> I did not spend a lot of time on that. I am just thinking what would be
> fair. The amounts are so small that probably the simplest thing would be to
> simply give all money from the book to the Watir project.
>
> > You also have some policies on refunds that I would not want to have as
> part of the Watir project.
>
> I got only one request for refund so far, the buyer did not know the book
> was not finished.
>
> > There is also a section in your book called "Me and My Book". This is
> one of the things that makes it feel to me like a personal project instead
> of a community project, but it sounds like this is something you are happy
> to change and are eager to get other contributors.
>
> Yes. The section should be titled something like "about the book", listing
> major contributors.
>
> > I think I would be more eager to add it, if it actually was a project
> that more than one person was contributing to. So maybe the next step
> should be for you to work on finding more contributors.
>
> I will help one potential contributor with setting up Git this or the next
> week, so I am hoping the contributions will start coming in.
>
> I moved to Guadalajara (Mexico) for a 6 week project and I hope I will
> have more time in the next few months to work on the book.
>
> ?eljko
>
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From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com  Tue Jan 24 14:06:20 2012
From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 13:06:20 -0600
Subject: [Wtr-development] WatirBook Repo
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On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Bret Pettichord <bret at pettichord.com>
wrote:
> Let's chat about this sometime. Since you are now in the same time zone
as me, that shouldn't be too hard. I'm often available by skype in the
evenings.

Sure, I work 9-6, when ever you see me online after 6 feel free to call.

?eljko
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From watirjira at gmail.com  Fri Jan 27 13:00:57 2012
From: watirjira at gmail.com (Aliaksandr (JIRA))
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:00:57 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Wtr-development] [JIRA] Created: (WTR-500) Locating element by ID
 ignores the type of element
Message-ID: <19696633.7.1327687257728.JavaMail.oqa-j2ee@openqa01.managed.contegix.com>

Locating element by ID ignores the type of element
--------------------------------------------------

                 Key: WTR-500
                 URL: http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-500
             Project: Watir
          Issue Type: Bug
          Components: Other
    Affects Versions: 2.0
         Environment: Windows 7 64-bit, IE 8, ruby 1.8.7, watir2.0.4
            Reporter: Aliaksandr
            Priority: Major
         Attachments: ignored_element_type.htm

When searching for a specific element type and using :id locator - element type seems to be actually ignored. By judging the symptom, it seems that at the end, call to locate an element is transfered to Element class.

Code executed against attached html:
irb(main):040:0> t=ie.div(:id,"id_adACOL1").exists?
=> true
irb(main):041:0> t=ie.li(:id,"id_adACOL1").exists?
=> true
irb(main):042:0> t=ie.text_field(:id,"id_adACOL1").exists?
=> true
irb(main):043:0> t=ie.text_field(:id,"id_adACOL1").html
=> "\r\n<DIV style=\"MARGIN: auto\" id=id_adACOL1 align=center name=\"foo\">
e--></DIV>"
irb(main):044:0> t=ie.div(:name,"foo").exists?
=> true
irb(main):045:0> t=ie.li(:name,"foo").exists?
=> false

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From watirjira at gmail.com  Sat Jan 28 08:50:57 2012
From: watirjira at gmail.com (Jarmo Pertman (JIRA))
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 07:50:57 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Wtr-development] [JIRA] Commented: (WTR-500) Locating element by
 ID ignores the type of element
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    [ http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-500?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=20410#action_20410 ] 

Jarmo Pertman commented on WTR-500:
-----------------------------------

Element type was ignored regardless of the locator used prior Watir 3.0.rc1. Try it out with `gem install watir --pre`. Check out the full changelog at https://github.com/watir/watir/blob/master/CHANGES

Let us know if the problem persists or not.

> Locating element by ID ignores the type of element
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: WTR-500
>                 URL: http://jira.openqa.org/browse/WTR-500
>             Project: Watir
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: Other
>    Affects Versions: 2.0
>         Environment: Windows 7 64-bit, IE 8, ruby 1.8.7, watir2.0.4
>            Reporter: Aliaksandr
>            Priority: Major
>         Attachments: ignored_element_type.htm
>
>
> When searching for a specific element type and using :id locator - element type seems to be actually ignored. By judging the symptom, it seems that at the end, call to locate an element is transfered to Element class.
> Code executed against attached html:
> irb(main):040:0> t=ie.div(:id,"id_adACOL1").exists?
> => true
> irb(main):041:0> t=ie.li(:id,"id_adACOL1").exists?
> => true
> irb(main):042:0> t=ie.text_field(:id,"id_adACOL1").exists?
> => true
> irb(main):043:0> t=ie.text_field(:id,"id_adACOL1").html
> => "\r\n<DIV style=\"MARGIN: auto\" id=id_adACOL1 align=center name=\"foo\">
> e--></DIV>"
> irb(main):044:0> t=ie.div(:name,"foo").exists?
> => true
> irb(main):045:0> t=ie.li(:name,"foo").exists?
> => false

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